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John C Dvorak: It's hot. Adam
curry.
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Unknown: John C Dvorak, it's
Thursday,
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Adam Curry: August 29 2024 this
is your award winning give our
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nation media assassination
Episode 1690
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Unknown: This is no agenda, very
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Adam Curry: demure, very
mindful, and broadcasting live
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from the heart of the Texas new
country here in FEMA Region,
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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry from
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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley, where we're all
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wondering what the hell Kamala
said in the interview that's
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been taped and edited. I'm
Johnson black.
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Adam Curry: You barely made it
through it. It was hard. It was
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hard. When is that? Air Tonight?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, airs
tonight at nine Eastern. It'll
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be groovy. It'll suck. It'll be
all edited down. And you, CNN, a
0:49
bunch of journalists are going
along with the program. Oh,
0:52
whatever you say, we'll cut this
out. We'll cut that out. We'll
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take the this and that. It's
gonna be
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Adam Curry: who just who says
those who says they won't
0:58
sabotage her. You never know. We
don't know who's playing what
1:02
these days.
1:03
John C Dvorak: Do I agree with
that theory? Yeah, anything. In
1:06
fact, the latest thing with
Kennedy, I do have a Kennedy, a
1:11
quick, quick Kennedy thing that
nobody seems to want to point
1:14
out. And I'm going to point it
out on on Jen Psaki show, Carrie
1:19
Kennedy came out to bitch about
her brother. Yeah, she
1:22
Adam Curry: has the same voice.
1:24
John C Dvorak: Well, that was
the joke I was,
1:27
Adam Curry: yeah, I'm sorry. I'm
sorry. You said. No one wants to
1:31
talk about it. Everyone
1:34
John C Dvorak: was a hint.
1:37
Adam Curry: Is that? Now, is
that genetic? I thought that he
1:39
had some kind of,
1:40
John C Dvorak: well, the Yeah,
it's a just, it's called a
1:43
spasmodic dysphoria or something
has got some crazy name, but
1:48
it's play Kerry Kennedy. First I
got a clip here. Yep, I can't
1:53
understand a word of her. By the
way,
1:54
Unknown: I completely out and
separate and dissociate myself
2:00
from from Robert Kennedy Jr, and
this flagrant and inexplicable
2:06
effort to desecrate and trampled
set by her tonight, my father's
2:10
memory.
2:12
Adam Curry: We shouldn't be
laughing.
2:13
John C Dvorak: She can't help
it. No, I'm not laughing at the
2:17
fact that we're laughing that
she can't get what she's trying
2:20
to get out. She couldn't say it.
But nobody has pointed this out,
2:24
except you just now, oh, she has
this same disorder and and it, I
2:30
looked into it, so I read about
it. Dr Dvorak is all kinds of
2:35
different things. One out of
50,000 people have
2:38
Adam Curry: it. How about this?
Is it caused by inbreeding? No,
2:42
John C Dvorak: that's the thing.
There is no evidence that
2:45
there's anything genetic about
it. So wow, what are the odds
2:48
that somebody else in the family
would have it, unless it is
2:51
genetic, and they've got it all
wrong? No,
2:54
Adam Curry: stay away from Miami
sport. I guess there's something
2:57
in the water up there that's
2:58
John C Dvorak: screwy about the
fact that she has the same
3:01
ailment. But anyway, but back to
the other thesis. What so start
3:07
looking into it. I think it was
Breitbart or a Daily Caller. I
3:11
think maybe Daily Caller that
brought out the fact that it was
3:15
Cheryl Hines that told Bobby to
talk to Trump.
3:19
Adam Curry: Yeah, the daily
call. Well, try. He also talked
3:22
about it on Tucker's interview,
which was a good interview,
3:25
John C Dvorak: yeah,
3:25
Adam Curry: did you see it? Did
you see the whole thing?
3:27
John C Dvorak: No, I did not.
But I know about the situation,
3:29
and since she's she's already
bitched about the fact that he's
3:33
joined forces with Trump. What's
going on here?
3:38
Adam Curry: What do you mean?
Well, she's
3:40
John C Dvorak: first. She says
that she told him that, you
3:43
know, he didn't want to talk to
Trump because it would upset
3:45
her. She's no, no, no, go ahead
talk to him. So he talks to
3:49
Trump, and they make a deal. And
next thing you know, he's he's
3:51
on the Trump you know,
3:53
Adam Curry: this position, this
is so interesting. We had a
3:55
dinner last night with some of
the some of our friends who who
4:00
now actually think that the part
of RFK is played by JFK. JR,
4:08
yeah, but, but they said the
first thing because, you know,
4:11
we sit down. We haven't seen him
for a couple weeks. Sit down
4:13
there. He's a plant. He's a
plant. RFK, Jr's a plant. He's
4:18
there to ruin everything, as is
Tulsi. So, which is what you're
4:29
implying? Well, okay, you're
implying that he's a, you know,
4:32
I know he's
4:32
John C Dvorak: not, but he's not
a plan. He's, I think Cheryl,
4:36
I've, we've felt that he, she
may be his handler, he, we know
4:40
it's a daughter in law. I think
that's a CIA person.
4:43
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah,
4:46
John C Dvorak: Tulsi is, I think
she's in the 321 or she's in
4:49
some group, which is a
intelligence intelligence
4:54
operation. Well,
4:56
Adam Curry: let's recall that
RFK Jr said he wanted to clean.
5:00
Not the CIA. And so we have the
uncle Don old school CIA, and
5:04
then we have the woke nut job
CIA. But I think it goes much
5:09
deeper. I mean, much much
deeper. Just, you know, I've
5:16
been reflecting on this, and you
know, the title of the show is
5:21
no agenda. But at this point,
all the wickedness and these,
5:25
these nasty, horrible people,
just they're, they're
5:31
narcissistic psychopaths. They
really are psychopaths,
5:36
psychopaths, and they've turned
our country into a robber's den.
5:41
I mean, the whole everything
here, just this is how it works,
5:45
all the way down the line. So
my, my other stepdaughter, is
5:48
coming in for my birthday, which
is very nice. She's coming in
5:51
from Chicago. And so she texts
Tina this morning. Says, Oh man,
5:57
the TSA is now looking you know,
you have, you get that picture
6:01
taken in the TSA line. Now you
can opt out of it, but of
6:04
course, most people don't, and
if you're if the picture that
6:08
they take of you does not match
the picture on your ID, you're
6:11
taken out of the line. This is
new, and people are freaking out
6:18
about it, even though it's
supposed to be a test, and you
6:21
don't have to do it. And this is
and by the way, I hate the game,
6:24
not the players, because we have
plenty of TSA agents, and I'm
6:27
sure they're just as annoyed by
this. TSA just tweeted the other
6:31
day randomly because it hasn't
come up for at least nine or 10
6:35
months. The tweet reads, peanut
butter is a liquid. We said what
6:40
we said? It
6:41
John C Dvorak: was a whole
segment on the on the gut felt
6:44
show about this
6:45
Adam Curry: screw, these people
Screw this, all of it, but
6:49
there's a liquid screw, the
higher rationale, yeah, okay,
6:54
yeah. I mean, yes, I've seen the
rationale for but it's beyond
6:58
this. Beside the point. This
stems back to 2007 when a couple
7:03
of nut jobs had some things that
they never actually mixed and
7:06
never exploded on the
7:08
John C Dvorak: plane, yeah,
well, that's like the shoe
7:09
bomber, same thing, yeah, from
7:12
Adam Curry: firecrackers in his
heel. You know. Meanwhile you
7:15
got people fighting on
airplanes, beating on each other
7:20
and punches beating on each
other. It's, it's time to clean
7:24
this up. And I, I choose to
believe RFK Jr. I choose to
7:30
believe that he is 70 years old.
And he says, Hey, I think I can
7:34
save some kids. And I'm all for
it, because in 10 years, I'm
7:38
going to be 70, there's going to
be no one left for Social
7:41
Security and Medicare is going
to be done. There'll be no one
7:44
working that will have no more
kids. I know you may not care
7:50
anymore, but I care. I don't
care
7:56
John C Dvorak: anymore. Close
the hatch.
7:59
Unknown: Close the hatch behind
us.
8:01
John C Dvorak: So the that's
funny. So the possibility that
8:08
the two of them coming in, two
strong characters with a fan
8:12
base,
8:13
Adam Curry: and at Tulsi, I
think she's Yeah, no,
8:16
John C Dvorak: I say the two of
them. Oh, yeah, okay.
8:19
Adam Curry: I said
8:19
John C Dvorak: the two of them
coming in, Tulsi and and
8:21
Kennedy, both with some sort of
intelligence connections, may be
8:28
there to keep Trump from doing
the screw ups that he's done in
8:31
the past, which like hallelujah,
yes, exactly, hiring Your your
8:39
buddy Burks,
8:41
Adam Curry: my buddy. Oh, now
it's my buddy. Okay, oh, Fauci
8:45
John C Dvorak: and people and
people like John Kelly. And I
8:48
was looking into John Kelly,
it's like, Bolton. How about
8:51
Bolton? Oh, Bolton. Late in the
game, God, Bolton. By the time
8:56
Bolton came around, you think
he'd have a clue. So
9:00
Adam Curry: this whole op, that
is Kamala Harris, which it is.
9:04
And of course, the media loves
this. Look at all the polls,
9:07
neck and neck. She's a little
above Trump. We've got a horse
9:09
race. People advertise now. It's
like, oh, okay,
9:13
John C Dvorak: advertise now
spend your money. We don't want
9:15
to see anything left in the
coffers. We're the media,
9:17
Adam Curry: and you can't all of
it. All media is now no good,
9:21
and we'll get to telegram in a
moment. But I need some of your
9:26
historic knowledge for this.
Eric PP, who's one of the
9:29
developers on podcasting 2.0 he
sent me a documentary, and it's
9:33
called, Let me see. It's called
the ball of confusion, and it's
9:39
about the 1968 DNC. And of
9:44
John C Dvorak: course, now
there's a lot of a lot I may
9:46
have seen this documentary Well,
brings about. These
9:49
Adam Curry: are very short
clips, but I just want to get
9:53
your historic knowledge, because
Hubert Humphreys was, of course,
9:58
there at the DNC in. And where's
Hubert Humphrey where was Hubert
10:02
Humphreys from Minnesota?
Exactly. So listen to what
10:07
Hubert Humphrey was talking
about back then in 1968 at the
10:11
DNC, he was
10:13
Unknown: a real optimist in
politics, and he called it the
10:16
politics of joy. And if ever
there was a phrase that didn't
10:20
fit 1968 it was that here
10:22
we are the way politics ought to
be in America, the politics of
10:29
happiness, the politics of
purpose and the politics of joy.
10:35
And that's the way it's going to
be to all the way from here on
10:38
out.
10:41
He believed in the Johnson
domestic policies. His conundrum
10:46
was Vietnam.
10:48
Adam Curry: So very similar. You
know, this is history not
10:51
repeating, but rhyming right
down to, well, this blew me
10:56
away. So of course, we had Nixon
in, not at the DNC, obviously,
10:59
but Nixon in the race. Let's
just replace Nixon right now for
11:03
Trump in this clip,
11:04
Unknown: the charge against
Nixon was he couldn't win.
11:07
George Romney withdrew before
the first primary in New
11:11
Hampshire. Rockefeller didn't
amount to much, so he was really
11:15
running against himself. One of
the things that now is almost an
11:21
accepted fact is that Nixon had
a quote, secret plan to end the
11:26
Vietnam War. That he had uttered
these words, he never said them.
11:31
The story, as I understand it,
is that Rockefeller told a
11:37
reporter that Nixon's running
around saying he has a secret
11:41
plan, and the reporter reported
it in Nixon's mouth. And for
11:45
years, Nixon sought to dispel
that, said he never said it. Now
11:51
that sounds
11:51
Adam Curry: a lot like Judy
Woodruff saying, oh, Trump told
11:54
Netanyahu to keep it going so
that he could stop the war.
11:59
John C Dvorak: Right? Which he
had to walk back, which he
12:01
Adam Curry: had to walk back.
But then this clip makes it even
12:04
more interesting. In the context
of Trump and Bibi Netanyahu,
12:08
Unknown: we now know that
Richard Nixon had asked Anna
12:11
Chennault, who was the chairman
of the Republican women, for
12:15
Nixon to be a back channel to
the South Vietnamese to
12:20
encourage them not to
participate in peace talks in
12:23
Paris under the Lyndon Johnson
administration, because they
12:26
would get a better deal with the
Richard Nixon administration if,
12:31
in fact, Richard Nixon played a
hand in curtailing the peace
12:35
talks in Paris. There's no doubt
that that's a violation of the
12:40
Logan Act. And the Logan Act
essentially prevents American
12:44
citizens from getting in the way
of American foreign policy.
12:49
It is essentially treason. Now,
Nixon, even though he was a
12:52
former vice president, was a
private citizen at that time, so
12:56
he would have been covered by
the Logan Act. LBJ was furious.
13:01
Contacting
13:03
a foreign power in the middle of
war,
13:06
and it's a damn bad mistake.
13:08
When he heard what Nixon's
people at least were doing and
13:12
what Mrs. Chenault was doing, he
was deeply angry. He wanted to
13:17
expose Nixon, but realized that
if he did so would be obvious
13:21
that he knew because of illegal
wiretapped.
13:25
Adam Curry: I just love this. So
that's exactly what
13:28
Unknown: I think about a den of
thieves.
13:29
Adam Curry: Yes, yeah. So you
know, perhaps Trump is being
13:35
wiretapped at Mar a Lago. Judy
Woodruff hears about it, you
13:40
know, she thinks it's from
Axios, because the old bag can't
13:42
remember. Sorry to be ageist
about it. And everyone's like,
13:47
Oh, we can't let anybody know
that we actually know what's
13:51
going on. Yeah,
13:53
John C Dvorak: well, they
wiretapped him at Trump Tower,
13:55
and they made a big fuss about
the fact that only we didn't,
13:58
even though it turned out that
they did, and it was discovered
14:01
that they did, but they denied
it. This is ridiculous.
14:05
Adam Curry: And then this, this
one, of course, this is what LBJ
14:10
did seven days before the
election.
14:13
Unknown: I have now ordered that
all air, naval and artillery
14:20
bombardment of North Vietnam
cease.
14:24
Adam Curry: Yeah, that would be
perfect for just say, sounds
14:26
like Joe, even you ordered
Israel stop bombing. And my,
14:36
how, think this is the last one.
My, how things have changed
14:39
since the DNC of 1968 when
reporters were actually there,
14:43
reporting on protests and what
was going on. And this is a
14:49
famous clip. I'd forgotten all
about it. This is Dan, rather,
14:53
who was trying to report on
protests inside the DNC Mayor
14:57
Unknown: Daley really did have.
Wounds in that convention hall,
15:01
and any delegate who got out of
line or started indicating that
15:07
he or she was going to dissent,
generally speaking, was either
15:11
shown the door or was beaten up.
15:14
Take your hands off of me unless
you intend to arrest me. Don't.
15:17
Don't push me, please. But don't
push me. Take your hands off
15:21
him, even unless you in arrest
me. Wait a minute. Wait a
15:26
minute. Walter, as you can see,
I'm sorry
15:29
to be out of bed, but somebody
belt him in his stomach doing
15:32
that. What happened is a Georgia
delegate, at least he had a
15:35
Georgia delegate sign on. Was
being hauled out of the hall. We
15:40
tried to talk to him to see why,
who he was, and what the
15:43
situation was, and at that
instant, the security people,
15:47
well, as you can see, put me on
the deck. I didn't do very
15:50
well. I think
15:51
we've got a bunch of thugs here.
Dan,
15:53
Adam Curry: so you know,
contrast that with the 2024 DNC,
15:58
where people hold up aside,
there's no reporting on it from
16:00
the mainstream, only someone who
happened to have a cell phone
16:05
and because they got the thugs
in there, everyone's under
16:07
control. Shut up, shut up and
play along. This is the game.
16:11
We're all in. It joy. It's joy,
people, the politics of joy.
16:17
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you know,
John chancellor was also beat up
16:19
at the at the who was John
Chancellor. He was a very famous
16:23
correspondent. I think he was on
NBC. There was a good, yeah,
16:29
there were that report of from
what, rather, was one of many.
16:32
And they were out there
reporting, and they were
16:34
actually doing a real job of it,
as opposed to today, where you
16:38
just have a bunch of, in fact,
what they what the Democrats did
16:42
in this convention was bring in
a bunch of influencers, yes,
16:46
yes, crawling with them, yes,
16:50
Adam Curry: yeah. It's, it's
modern political warfare. So I
16:54
kept looking for joy. And there
is a joy, yeah, because
16:58
John C Dvorak: she's on MSNBC.
17:02
Adam Curry: Oh, joy. Joy now
kept looking for the politics of
17:05
joy, and this, these things just
happened in the past four
17:09
months.
17:10
Unknown: Kamala Harris's 2024
presidential campaign is being
17:13
propelled by the Black joy
movement, which emphasizes
17:16
celebrating Black humanity
beyond trauma and oppression,
17:20
and this has resonated deeply
with her supporters in the face
17:22
of political challenges and
racial identity debates. Yes,
17:25
Adam Curry: this is the black
joy. There's even an exhibit in
17:28
Tennessee. We only
17:30
Unknown: seem to truly focus on
black people's trauma, and while
17:33
that is valid, while that is
important, and while that needs
17:37
to be studied, so does our joy,
highlighting and showcasing our
17:42
ability and our audacity to find
joy in spite of everything that
17:47
has been thrown at us, is
something that we should not
17:50
only celebrate but honor.
17:52
Adam Curry: And of course, we
had a black joy Parade, which
17:55
you and I missed. What is black
joy?
17:57
Unknown: Black joy is the joy of
not only being black, but just
18:02
the culture that comes with this
black joy, to me, means the
18:06
ability to express yourself
authentically. Us. Being
18:08
able to come here is super
important for the children, for
18:12
the seniors, for everybody
18:14
in between. We're
18:15
bringing Oakland to the world.
This is what we're like on
18:17
everyday basis. But we want
everybody to see
18:19
the black joy that we have
18:21
we don't spend enough time
celebrating ourselves. We don't
18:23
spend enough time just like
basking in our own glory, if you
18:26
will.
18:28
John C Dvorak: So it's all
subversive. We should all be
18:31
basking in our own glory.
18:33
Unknown: It's all subversive.
18:35
John C Dvorak: These people
don't spend enough time. Adam,
18:37
basking glory. No, we
18:39
Adam Curry: should do that more
often on weekends? Oh, no, we
18:42
work on weekends. This is this
whole campaign, the media, the
18:48
entire administration, all of
all of the agencies. I mean, I
18:52
don't know if we can ever, if we
can ever reset all of this, but
18:55
man, what a bunch of jag offs,
all of them. It's all just
19:00
corrupt and narcissists and
sociopaths, psychopaths and
19:06
sociopaths, they're crazy and
crazy, I tell you,
19:14
John C Dvorak: and it's being
seems to be being. It's
19:16
encouraged by social media.
19:20
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, it is. And
19:22
John C Dvorak: I and I'm part of
it. You are. I mean, I admit to
19:28
it, yeah. I mean, I'll take a
look at these, these tick tock,
19:31
mainly, yes, these psychos that
are on tick tock with their, you
19:36
know, guys that pretend to be
women or want to be women, or
19:40
think they're women or whatever,
and they're all made up and
19:43
they're ugly. It's not like
they're attractive women.
19:46
They're very genuine, they're
very demure. They're not even
19:49
demure, they're psychotic. And
there's something compelling
19:54
about watching a psychotic
person rant about something I
19:57
don't know what it is. It's like
I. Why is this person even
20:02
available to to do this? Is they
should be, literally, it's
20:07
locked up. They should be in an
institution. Well,
20:10
Adam Curry: it's, it's, it's
part of the program, though. I
20:13
mean, the fact that it's all out
there to such a degree, and the
20:16
algos are bringing it to you
clearly, because the only time I
20:19
see any of this stuff is when
you post it. So the algos are
20:23
tuned they're fine tuned into
you. They
20:26
John C Dvorak: got it, man. Look
at this guy. He's gonna push all
20:28
this crazy stuff. He's nuts.
They're
20:31
Adam Curry: completely tuned
into you now. So, and I think
20:36
I'm gonna change my thinking
20:39
John C Dvorak: before you
continue with this thesis,
20:42
they're not tuned into me so
much because I don't even have
20:44
an account. It's people sending
them to me. I link to I look at
20:50
that, and then once I'm on that,
looking at one psycho, the
20:53
algorithm then gives me another
psycho. Well, I'm just, I'm just
20:56
talking about, but I'm not part
I'm not being targeted. But
21:01
Adam Curry: on X, I think you
are, and you have an account on
21:05
X, your post, you're reposting
this stuff on X, I don't know
21:09
what you're doing on tick tock.
I mean, tick tock. I mean, I
21:12
can't get on to I just, I
refuse, because I know what will
21:15
happen. Oh, this is great.
Sucked in. Get sucked in. It
21:22
gets sucked in. So I think I'm
going to change my opinion, or
21:25
my my original thesis on this
telegram thing. And I know you
21:29
have two clips. Let me just do
this. Do this background or see
21:33
if it lines up with you.
21:35
Unknown: Telegram Founder Pavel
Durov has been put under formal
21:39
investigation and released under
judicial supervision of
21:42
allegations his messaging
service is being used for
21:45
illegal activities. Allegations
include that the platform is
21:49
being used for child sexual
abuse, material, drug
21:52
trafficking, fraud and abetting
organized crime transactions.
21:56
Earlier this week, President
Emmanuel Macron denied political
22:00
motivations were at play.
22:03
It is up to the judiciary and
full independence to enforce the
22:06
law. The arrest of the President
of telegram on French soil took
22:10
place as part of an ongoing
judicial investigation. It is in
22:13
no way a political decision. It
is up to the judges to rule on
22:17
the matter,
22:18
but the Kremlin claims
otherwise, saying Durov
22:21
detention caused shock
throughout the world
22:24
so media, but it
22:26
seems to me that, well, it would
not be an exaggeration to say
22:29
that the whole world experienced
a greater shock than ever before
22:32
from the actions of
representatives of the
22:34
collective West
22:36
following durovs arrests.
Telegram said in a statement
22:39
that it abides by EU laws and
its moderation is within
22:43
industry standards. Jorov is
banned from leaving France due
22:47
to the investigation, so
22:49
Adam Curry: whenever a statement
comes out saying this is not
22:52
political, it's political, but
why? Pavlov is not a politician.
23:00
So, and I admit freely, I'm
somewhat influenced by the
23:03
interview that Mike Benz did
with Tucker, which I which I
23:07
watched yesterday. Are you
familiar with Mike Benz?
23:11
John C Dvorak: We've familiar
with Mike Benz, but I did not
23:13
see this interview. You have a
clip, I don't
23:15
Adam Curry: have a clip, and I
have a question. What does Mike
23:19
bends do for a living? That's my
question, because he seems to be
23:23
everywhere, telling everybody
exactly how the State Department
23:26
works and how the blob works.
But how does he make money? He's
23:31
everywhere, but, you know, he,
does he have a lot of ads? Or,
23:34
you know, does he I just, that's
just the question that no one
23:37
seems to be asking. So you just
asked it. We should find out?
23:41
Yeah, I hope to find out. So the
thinking, and by the way, it's
23:46
also influenced by this email
from one of our producers, who
23:49
talks about the privacy features
of Telegram, which turns out, is
23:53
not as great as I thought it
was. Aha, yeah. So the early I'm
23:58
going to read verbatim here, the
early team, I felt that it was
24:01
always full of holes. But, oh,
it's worse than you think. The
24:04
early team behind the start of
Telegram, led by Nikolai Durov,
24:07
that's pablo's Brother, I think,
consists of six ACM champions,
24:11
half of them PhDs in math, but
they're not cryptographers. Of
24:14
course, there's only a handful
of really good cryptographers in
24:17
the world, probably instead of
using known standards like PGP
24:22
or GPG that are well tested,
they created their own
24:27
encryption standard. Here we go,
and our boots on the ground.
24:31
Dude named Ben says there are
weak parts in it that will not
24:34
surprise you if some three
letter agency might have
24:36
compromised the telegram
security. Another big red flag
24:40
is that, by default, the
encryption of messages is not
24:44
on. Turning it on is only
possible in a chat to another
24:48
person. You have to you have to
actively select that you want
24:52
this encrypted. So there's no
encryption in channels or
24:56
groups, which is the main use of
telegram. There's no encrypt.
25:00
Impossible in channels or groups
only, the secret chats are
25:03
encrypted. And of course, most
people start, I think they've
25:08
changed it now, but most people
have started their account with
25:11
your own mobile phone number,
which is why you don't which is
25:16
why you don't have a telegram
account, and all of the photos
25:19
and files you share are all
stored on their closed source
25:22
servers for an unlimited time,
also unencrypted. So this is a
25:27
beautiful system, and I think
it's very possible this is what
25:33
Mike Benz was saying that the
Russians, either they have
25:39
access to the encrypted stuff,
or, you know, they have some
25:43
other access. And this is
hurting the use of telegram by
25:48
Ukrainians, which is, you know,
almost everybody in Ukraine is
25:51
using telegram because telegram
is what you use, or used to use
25:56
when you started some kind of
color revolution. Pay, a couple
25:58
of guys in Germany, we saw that.
But was it the Belarus uprising?
26:02
I think the two guys in Germany
are managing the telegram
26:06
channel well, that's suspicious,
and that this is why they want
26:11
to try and get to Pavel, because
this is one of the last systems
26:17
that the agencies and the State
Department have to control
26:23
revolutions and get people all
riled up, not by subverting
26:27
their messages necessarily, but
by using it as the main it comes
26:31
across as trustworthy. So I
think this is where we need to
26:36
have a hard look at Elon Musk,
not Elon himself. I mean, I've
26:41
never liked him. You know, he's
like, Oh, freedom, freedom of
26:45
speech, freedom of speech. But
he isn't actually running X,
26:50
that's Linda yacorino.
26:52
John C Dvorak: Well, before you
continue, let's play my two door
26:55
off clips. Okay, just about the
arrest. These are generalized.
26:59
There's not anything just I just
want to get him out of the way.
27:03
Unknown: In France, I'm sorry.
In France, authorities have
27:06
issued preliminary charges
against telegram CEO Pavel dura
27:09
for allegedly allowing illegal
activities on his social media
27:13
platform. He's been released
from custody on bail, but is not
27:17
allowed to leave France. Durov
was arrested on Saturday at a
27:21
Paris airport as part of an
investigation that opened last
27:24
month. Russia, born dorave, is
also a French citizen.
27:28
Allegations against him include
allowing his platform to be used
27:32
in connection with child sexual
abuse, drug trafficking, fraud
27:36
and organized criminal
activities. French prosecutors
27:39
also alleged that telegram
refused to share information or
27:43
documents with investigators
when required by law. French
27:46
media, AFP reports that Durov is
also under investigation for,
27:50
quote, serious violence against
one of his children in Paris.
27:55
Oh,
27:57
Adam Curry: I hadn't heard this
part that's interesting. A
27:59
little twist, serious. Oh, so
that so that's the that's the
28:03
leverage. Pavel, you serious
violence against one of your
28:09
kids. Pavel, look at this
picture. Pavel, What's that in
28:14
your mouth? Pavel, part two,
28:17
Unknown: After durovs arrest,
Telegram issued a statement
28:20
saying, quote, It is absurd to
claim that a platform or its
28:23
owner are responsible for abuse
of that platform. Elon Musk, the
28:28
billionaire owner of x, who has
called himself a free speech
28:31
absolutist, has been speaking
out in support of Durov and
28:35
posted hashtag free. Pavel,
28:38
Adam Curry: yeah, you know. So
it seems to me that a guy whose
28:43
main source of income is the US
government could possibly be
28:48
compromised to create a great
free speech platform that now
28:54
can be used instead of telegram.
And I'm not saying that Elon
28:59
himself is behind it, because if
anyone is running that place,
29:03
not for advertising success,
because we know that's not
29:06
working, it's yakarino, who is a
total mainstream Insider. NBC
29:13
Universal, started the peacocks,
was part of the peacock
29:16
streaming service team Ad
Council. She actually was in the
29:20
Trump administration didn't know
this, the President's Council on
29:25
sports, fitness and nutrition.
Why? Why?
29:28
John C Dvorak: Why I know that
either that's kind of obscure,
29:31
and
29:32
Adam Curry: this is the best
part. She has a twin sister, the
29:36
old twin sister bit now she's
the one that keeps saying,
29:40
freedom of speech, not freedom
of reach, so maybe she has her
29:43
fingers on the dial, you know.
And amidst all of this, all of a
29:49
sudden we got Zuckerberg going
29:51
Unknown: Facebook. CEO Mark
Zuckerberg has acknowledged
29:54
being pressured by the Biden
administration to censor content
29:57
during the pandemic in a letter
to the House Judiciary. Jury
30:00
committee, Zuckerberg says
senior administration officials
30:03
pushed the company to censor
certain posts about covid on
30:06
Facebook and Instagram.
Zuckerberg saying, I feel
30:09
strongly that we should not
compromise our content standards
30:12
due to pressure from any
administration in either
30:14
direction, and we're ready to
push back if something like this
30:17
happens again. Zuckerberg also
said he regrets hiding content
30:21
about Hunter Biden before the
2020 election, including
30:23
information about Biden's laptop
after the FBI warned it may have
30:26
been Russian disinformation, and
30:28
Adam Curry: we just need to play
a nice little supercut reminding
30:32
us how the M 5m treated us, the
citizens, their customers, or
30:36
really were their product about
the Hunter Biden laptop. Never
30:41
forget.
30:42
Unknown: Obviously we're not
going with the New York Post
30:45
story
30:46
right now on Hunter Biden.
30:47
This is really one of the
stupidest October surprises I've
30:51
ever seen. It helps to really
view this as storytelling, not
30:55
so much as news coverage, but as
political entertainment. NPR
30:59
explained, we don't want to
waste our time on stories that
31:02
are not really stories. Who even
thought to make that story up,
31:05
a story that many intelligence
experts say has all the
31:08
hallmarks of a foreign
interference campaign looks like
31:11
it's
31:11
tied to Vladimir Putin in
Moscow. This
31:14
is a Russian intelligence
disinformation campaign, foreign
31:17
intelligence operation,
31:18
foreign intelligence operation,
Russian intelligence. Rudy
31:22
Giuliani was not fed passively
Russian disinformation. He
31:26
ordered off the menu. This
31:27
is a classic example of the
right
31:29
wing media machine, and
31:30
he's in the midst of a scandal.
He's not taking
31:35
we should note Hunter Biden
isn't running for president.
31:38
That argument has been debunked.
31:40
There is no evidence that Joe
Biden did anything wrong. For
31:42
all we
31:43
know these emails are made up.
It just lacks credibility. Okay,
31:49
start doing that. Bearing No,
we're
31:51
not going to do your work for
you. Sorry.
31:58
John C Dvorak: The main player
in there was Stelter at least
32:01
three times. And then, of
course, Morning Joe jumps in.
32:05
These guys, of course, stelters
out. But these guys are so
32:08
corrupt at MSNBC, CNN, all of
them. John, all of them, yes,
32:14
but not to the extreme. Come on.
The extreme that you get when
32:18
you go to MSNBC is off the
scale, at least they fake it a
32:22
little bit. At the other
networks, again, I blame Brian
32:27
Right Blane Roberts, the guy who
runs Comcast. He's the guy
32:30
behind the whole thing. Anyway,
32:33
Adam Curry: it appears to me
that Elon may not have his
32:36
fingers on the knobs, and that
yakarino is the one we need to
32:41
be looking at. I'll give I'll
give Elon the benefit of the
32:44
doubt. But you know, he did buy
Twitter for $44 billion banks
32:50
can't unload this debt. They've
got $17 billion worth of debt,
32:53
which they want to sell for 30
cents on the dollar, because
32:56
that's what the debt is now
valued at. So you know why? Oh,
33:01
just because you have money and
you believe in free speech.
33:03
Maybe, maybe. Well,
33:05
John C Dvorak: another thing is,
I wonder how much of Elon's
33:07
money, this is because there's a
lot of Saudi money. It's
33:10
Adam Curry: not that's the point
everybody has influence in this
33:13
thing.
33:15
John C Dvorak: That's my that
would account for the fact you'd
33:17
have somebody else come in and
actually Elon being a front man,
33:24
Adam Curry: yes, yeah. And, and
it's always great. It's always
33:28
great when they're making fun of
the other team until it
33:32
switches. You know? I mean, it's
like, it's always great when
33:35
they censor the bad guy stuff,
but when they turn around and
33:38
use the same tools on you, then
it's not going to be so good. So
33:41
I'm just saying we need to be
wary of that, and that the only
33:45
place left for true free speech
is podcasting. I knew you were
33:51
no I was getting there and and
listen to and so now they're
33:55
this is the psyop that's been
going on for a long time, and
33:59
came to a head again this week,
pod is dead. Podcasting evolved
34:05
away from Apple towards YouTube.
Oh, it's the everyone watches
34:09
podcasts on YouTube. It's only
YouTube. They are trying so
34:14
hard, and to a degree,
succeeding, at convincing
34:18
everybody that podcasting is
dead. It's only YouTube. Now, I
34:22
haven't heard this at all. Well,
I'm in the business. I'm in the
34:25
business. Well, I'm
34:26
John C Dvorak: in the business
too,
34:28
Adam Curry: but you're not in
the business. No,
34:29
John C Dvorak: I'm not running a
whole
34:32
Adam Curry: infrastructure
system.
34:34
John C Dvorak: But yes,
34:35
Adam Curry: and, and, you know,
and I would be okay if they, I
34:39
mean, they should at least offer
to compromise me. I'm a little
34:43
disappointed by that. Yeah,
where's the money? I don't know.
34:46
The podcast index is, is truly
an, oh, man, so many these, a
34:50
lot of these hosting companies
are in on it. I Not a lot, some
34:54
of them.
34:55
John C Dvorak: I mean, it's,
it's, you know, in the
34:57
corruption, yeah,
34:58
Adam Curry: I believe so, yeah.
Yeah, I
35:00
John C Dvorak: believe so you're
probably right. You, like you
35:02
said, you take it down,
35:03
Adam Curry: take it down. Take
it down. Oh yeah, there's some
35:06
taken down going on. They've
already got, you know, Spotify,
35:12
for sure, because, you know
Spotify, they've got section 230
35:17
This is why Zuckerberg, I think,
is trying to cut bait and like,
35:23
oh, well, you know, Trump's
gonna get in, so I might as well
35:26
say hey, you know, because they
cleared his letter clearly says
35:30
they coerced us under a, you
know, threat of Section 230 cue
35:37
the ex Facebook people going out
and doing interviews.
35:40
Unknown: It was peak covid and
peak debate about what was right
35:44
or wrong information, and the
White House openly pressured
35:48
tech companies to moderate the
conversation. We don't
35:51
take anything down. We don't
block anything. Our point is
35:55
that there is information that
is leading to people not taking
35:58
the vaccine, and people are
dying as a result, and we have a
36:01
responsibility as a public
health matter to raise that
36:04
issue. Zuckerberg says he now
believes the government pressure
36:07
was wrong, and he's ready to
push back if it happens again.
36:11
Do you believe that Facebook is
trying to suppress certain types
36:14
of information? No, I don't.
Katie horbath is Facebook's
36:17
former Director of Public Policy
and left in the spring of 21 is
36:21
this a former censorship what he
described, he makes clear
36:25
that they made their own
decisions about this content. I
36:28
think that's really important.
All
36:29
of the platforms did.
36:31
She argues that Zuckerberg
admission is an example of
36:33
walking a fine line at a time of
court challenges to tech
36:37
companies over content
moderation and regulation
36:41
threats. I think this
36:42
is consistent with meta wanting
to pull back from politics and
36:45
news overall, and very much
trying to stay out of this
36:49
political fray this time,
meaning
36:51
while the letter may say one
thing, social media's
36:55
relationship status with
Congress remains complicated,
37:00
Adam Curry: let me clarify on
the hosting companies. What I
37:03
learned is that a lot of these
so called platforms, like
37:06
Spotify, Apple as well, Amazon
and iHeart, tune in if you want
37:16
your podcast there. It's not
just like you put out your RSS
37:20
feed and then they say, Oh, I'm
going to put this in. No, your
37:24
hosting company automatically
opts you into their terms of
37:28
service, which is exactly why
we're not on Spotify, because
37:32
they had Terms of Service like,
I'm not going to sign any terms
37:35
of service. So that's how the
minute something happens that
37:40
that is not liked by the system.
They cannot just go to the
37:44
hosting company and say, pull
the plug Terms of Service.
37:46
Violation done, you're out by
per episode or per feed itself.
37:53
John C Dvorak: So there's and
the problem, of course, is that
37:57
with something like Spotify, and
people started saying, listening
38:00
to our podcast on Spotify
idiots, idiots, but you don't,
38:04
but, but let's say that we're a
Spotify podcast. And what would
38:09
happen is that there'd be so
many people gravitating toward
38:12
that. Then once they pull the
plug on us, they would have
38:15
they'd be like fish out of the
water, you know, flapping
38:17
around. Where are we going to
go? I don't know. And then you'd
38:19
forget about the podcast, you'd
never find it someplace else,
38:23
and then you're done, it's done,
and you're done, the podcast is
38:26
ruined. Yeah, yeah. You have to
have do your own it has to have
38:30
a home base that's outside of
these systems,
38:33
Adam Curry: you know? And now,
when I signed up, I don't hate
38:36
even I don't think my login even
works anymore on Apple, but the
38:40
Apple also had Terms of Service.
I don't know if that. I'm sure
38:44
it has changed since covid. A
lot changed during covid. So to
38:48
bring it all back around,
there's not a lot of places, if
38:54
any, that we can really trust
for freedom of speech, because
38:59
you may think that you're, you
know, you're in the Bozo filter.
39:02
You know, Linda yakarino may be
dialing you down, isn't and
39:06
certainly YouTube, oh yeah, get
everybody on YouTube. That's
39:09
where podcasts are great. Use a
modern podcast app, people, one
39:15
that uses the index podcast
apps.com so we will see what
39:20
happens to Pavel, but, but I
would say that the longer they
39:24
keep him, although he's out on 5
million euro bail, can't leave
39:28
France, I would say that it's
going to become less trustworthy
39:33
for everybody. And then where do
you go? Signal literally takes
39:38
money from the US government. Us
well, NGOs that are funded by
39:42
the US government. So no, you
know WhatsApp, which is a
39:47
Facebook product or, yeah, a
meta product? No. So the control
39:54
system is closing in on us, and
meanwhile, we're just. Here live
40:01
in Val living the value for
value, life with no impact
40:04
whatsoever. We have no impact
just we have
40:09
John C Dvorak: no impact. We
have we don't have impact in a
40:15
in a threatening sense. And why
is that? We do have impact in a
40:20
subversive sense. Ooh,
40:22
Adam Curry: I like that explain.
40:24
John C Dvorak: Well, in other
words, we are. We have a subtext
40:28
to everything we do, which is
truth, yes, and kind of truth
40:33
and understanding, which is a
big deal. In other words,
40:36
figuring out what the news
really means, who's behind it,
40:39
what you just broke down with
the yakarino woman and the twin.
40:47
Yeah,
40:48
Adam Curry: Elon may not know.
Elon may think that he's talking
40:51
to yakarino, but it's the twin.
40:55
John C Dvorak: And so that sort
of thing gets into the public
40:57
subconscious, and that has a
subversive effect on the way
41:01
people think about things,
because they have some sort of
41:03
realization that you wouldn't
normally have, and it's nothing
41:08
you can put really stamp out.
It's just, it's subtle. And so
41:12
that's what we do. That's why
there's nobody really, that's
41:15
where you like we don't appear
to have influence. So
41:18
Adam Curry: we're kind of like
the Paul Revere of podcasting,
41:22
we're just ringing the just
ringing the bell. British are
41:25
coming. We're just ringing the
bell. We're the Minutemen. Okay,
41:31
well, I'm happy. I'm happy that
we're doing it. For sure, I'm
41:34
happy and,
41:37
John C Dvorak: well this people
are happy that we're doing
41:40
Adam Curry: it, yeah, oh, yeah.
And they, I don't care, and they
41:43
do meetups. And, you know,
people in the meetups like, what
41:46
are they? What are they? Were
these people may go stand over,
41:48
what are they talking about? And
they learn things. So we're a
41:52
slow role. We're like, the
molasses of influence,
41:56
John C Dvorak: molasses of
subversion. Exactly,
42:01
Adam Curry: I think I've figured
out what. This is actually quite
42:05
good. And it was predicted. It
was we it was all over the place
42:11
during covid, and we never
really followed through on it.
42:16
And I think that we're finally
getting there. I'll start with
42:20
this clip, just because you
understand what the what the
42:24
true evil is in our world. It's
not viruses anymore. No, no,
42:30
it's mosquitoes. Listen,
42:31
Unknown: there's a lot going on,
especially here in South
42:33
Florida, where we already have
experienced West Nile and dengue
42:37
and Zika, and now we have this
illness to concern ourselves
42:41
with sloth fever, or sloth flu,
is what it's sometimes called.
42:47
Decades ago, researchers first
investigating the virus found it
42:50
in a sloth, and it was thought
the animals helped spread the
42:54
disease.
42:54
You might have gotten it from a
sloth
42:56
that had been bitten by a Midge.
You might not have you might
42:59
have gotten it from a Midge and
bitten somebody else. Okay,
43:02
Adam Curry: so mosquitoes, they
add in midges because it's just
43:06
funny, because it makes you
think about So mosquitoes, and
43:10
what creates mosquitoes, and
this is the part that we stop
43:14
thinking about
43:15
Unknown: and to Healthwatch this
morning, the mosquitoes are bad
43:18
out there, and we're looking at
new concerns over diseases
43:20
spread by those mosquitoes. A
New Hampshire man recently died
43:23
from Eastern equine SF
encephalitis I knew is going to
43:27
screw that one up. It's a rare
illness, no vaccine, no
43:29
treatment. In Massachusetts,
some towns, in response, are now
43:33
spraying for mosquitoes and also
urging people to stay inside in
43:36
the evening and nighttime when
the mosquitoes are out. CBS News
43:39
Medical contributor Dr Celine
gounder asked the CDC director
43:43
Mandy Cohen if climate change is
affecting these kinds of
43:46
outgrowths.
43:47
You know, the impact of heat on
our health and climate change is
43:51
not only impacting us as humans,
but it's changing where
43:54
mosquitoes and ticks live, and
thus what diseases are moving
43:59
around in different regions.
We're just seeing more bugs, and
44:03
some of those bugs are becoming
resistant to our control methods
44:07
due
44:07
to climate change. That's
44:09
Adam Curry: right, dude. We
forgot all about this. They kept
44:12
saying, Oh no, the next pandemic
will come from climate change.
44:16
Unknown: Eastern Equine
Encephalitis. Equine means
44:21
horses. We're not horses. What
can you tell us about it? Why is
44:23
it hurting people? Well,
44:24
this is something that we see
with many infectious diseases,
44:27
that the host might be another
animal, maybe a bat, which is
44:30
what we suspect with covid, for
example, or with Ebola. But in
44:35
this case, what we think is
happening is horses. Perhaps
44:37
other animals are the host.
Mosquitoes are biting them and
44:41
then transmitting that infection
to humans. And
44:43
Adam Curry: what's better than
mosquitoes? Because it's just as
44:47
scary. I walked outside and saw
mosquito I've got I've got to
44:51
wear a hazmat suit to my
pickleball game. Oh no, and it's
44:56
all because of climate change.
So
44:58
Unknown: the CDC director Cohen
talked about. Out the big factor
45:01
of heat playing a significant
role, and we know the CDC has
45:03
said mosquitoes are the world's
deadliest animal. What more can
45:07
be done when it comes to
addressing these issues, finding
45:10
treatments and vaccines?
45:12
Well, climate change is creating
the right breeding ground for
45:16
mosquitoes, so you have hotter,
more humid, longer summers,
45:21
which means people are coming
into contact with mosquitoes
45:23
that much more and so therefore
mosquito borne infections. What
45:27
can we be doing? Well, the
really most important thing is
45:30
to be controlling the
mosquitoes. So there are some
45:32
traditional ways of doing that.
You want to drain your standing
45:36
water. You want to be spraying
and there are some newer
45:39
technologies there to control
mosquitoes that don't involve
45:41
pesticides. Some of those are
being piloted in place like the
45:44
places like the Florida Keys,
where you have lots of
45:47
mosquitoes, but we still have a
lot to go in terms of developing
45:51
treatments or vaccines. Now,
45:52
Adam Curry: let us all remind
ourselves that it is Bill Gates,
45:56
because, of course, wherever
there's something nasty, there's
45:59
the nasty man himself, Bill
Gates, who was genetically
46:02
modifying mosquitoes so they
wouldn't reproduce. They don't
46:07
talk about that right now, at
least, I haven't found any
46:10
clips. And in 2007 he was
already talking about
46:14
mosquitoes. Remember when he
released mosquitoes into the TED
46:17
conference illegally? Yes, and
was like, arrested
46:22
John C Dvorak: on the spot. So
46:25
Adam Curry: put all of that
together, climate change bill
46:27
gates, mosquitoes, and, you
know, like that gets the in
46:32
Massachusetts, and we played
that clip on the last show,
46:34
like, oh, you might want to stay
inside, because, you know,
46:37
climate change mosquitoes, Oh,
no. And right.
46:42
John C Dvorak: Just as an aside,
before you continue, there has
46:46
been less and less mosquitoes in
this area. We
46:49
Adam Curry: have none ever.
Yeah, I know
46:52
John C Dvorak: like and there's
two things going on that have to
46:54
be addressed with the
mosquitoes. One, it's windier
46:59
than usual, and when it's
windier, the mosquitoes, once
47:03
they get it, they are not a bug,
that is, that can fly around in
47:08
a wind. They just get blown to
someplace else. They get blown
47:12
away, and there's the end of
them. And so we've had more wind
47:15
than usual, which is that you
could say, Well, climate change
47:18
is causing winds. And if climate
change is causing winds. The
47:21
winds are blowing away the
mosquitoes. So there can't be
47:23
more mosquitoes. There is a
problem. That's a conundrum in
47:28
in logic.
47:29
Adam Curry: You drive these
mosquitoes. You drive on the
47:31
freeway right from time to I do
drive, of course, I drive what?
47:35
When's the you Well,
47:37
John C Dvorak: I can't get on
the freeway. What are you
47:39
talking about? Course I drive on
the freeway, just
47:42
Adam Curry: asking, because now
the next the follow up question
47:44
is, when's the last time you had
to scrape bugs off of your
47:47
windshield?
47:49
John C Dvorak: Excellent point.
When I was a kid, we would drive
47:53
down 99 or whatever to say to
LA, we were doing, we're just
47:57
driving anywhere. All you. Well,
there's two things here. I've
48:02
talked I thought about this too.
Is they used to get so many just
48:07
get the windshield be filled
with bugs and so but, but the
48:11
cars aerodynamics have changed
so much that the bugs, like
48:15
don't hit the windshield
anymore. They go up and over.
48:18
That's one supposed reason. But,
well,
48:22
Adam Curry: you have a 30 year
old Lexus,
48:25
John C Dvorak: very aerodynamic
car, but, but besides that, but
48:30
it doesn't excuse the fact that
the grills, right, which aren't
48:35
as aerodynamic, don't have the
bugs either, right? So there's
48:39
something we don't have the
flying insect problem we had,
48:42
I'd say 50 years ago. No.
48:45
Adam Curry: But even though this
morning, it was 72 degrees in
48:51
August in Texas, where my lawn
is green, for the first time
48:56
that I've lived in Texas for 15
years, somehow it's the hottest
49:00
year on record. This
49:01
Unknown: morning, record
breaking heat spreading across
49:04
more of the US.
49:06
It's warmer than I like. It's a
little hard to breathe. The
49:09
higher
49:09
temperatures a growing concern.
As a new study shows, the number
49:13
of related deaths in the US
skyrocketed by 117% between 1999
49:20
and 2023,
49:22
we saw more heat related deaths.
Wait,
49:24
John C Dvorak: wait, yes, stop
the clip. Do they give us actual
49:27
numbers just went up 100% from
one to two, but
49:33
Adam Curry: we also have 100%
more people homeless on the
49:36
streets who may just be frying
and dying.
49:40
John C Dvorak: There's that teen
percent
49:42
Unknown: between 1999 and 2023
we
49:45
saw more heat related deaths in
2023 than we ever have in the 20
49:49
some years of records. And
that's definitely still an
49:52
undercount. More than
49:53
21,000 heat related deaths were
reported over the last two
49:57
decades. Scientists citing
climate change. Wait, so what?
50:00
Again,
50:02
John C Dvorak: it gets better at
the end, if you're going to play
50:04
this kind of garbage, and you
get stopped. ABC says she if
50:09
you're going to play a always
becoming climate change. So if
50:16
you're going to play this stuff,
I have to interrupt. She said
50:20
something very peculiar in
there. She says, we have, don't
50:23
get these numbers, but it's and
we have this numbers more than
50:27
ever before, and it's under
counted. Yeah, how do you know
50:31
it's under counted? If you never
have these numbers? Because
50:35
Adam Curry: it's a lie. This is
all psychological warfare, and
50:39
we're propagating it for free
for them?
50:42
John C Dvorak: Well, no, we're
actually, I think we're counter
50:44
propagating. We are, we are, we
are. But this, this, this notion
50:47
that it's under counted. Wait
until
50:49
Adam Curry: you hear what she
says, what he says at the end 20
50:52
Unknown: some years of records,
and that's definitely still an
50:54
undercount.
50:55
Adam Curry: Definitely. It's not
just definitely, definitely
50:58
under it's definitely
50:59
John C Dvorak: that give us the
real count? Lady, more than 20?
51:02
No, it's an undercount. It's
definitely an undercount. What
51:06
is the real number? Then you
should be able to do it.
51:09
Adam Curry: She's not going to
tell you. It's not interactive
51:11
that way. She can't hear by
51:12
John C Dvorak: the way, did she
ever give actual numbers?
51:15
Percentages? 117%
51:17
Unknown: more than 21,000. Heat
related deaths were reported
51:21
over the last two decades.
Scientists citing climate
51:24
change, the weather so hot after
starting their first day of
51:28
school yesterday, students at 63
public schools in Philadelphia
51:32
will be sent home early today
and tomorrow. Do not
51:35
have air in our cafeteria, in
our auditorium. Schools,
51:40
also,
51:41
Adam Curry: there's no air,
there's
51:42
Unknown: no air, no air. I
51:44
Adam Curry: think she means air
conditioning, but yeah, we'll do
51:48
the Dvorak. What? No oxygen, no
air. Here, in
51:52
Unknown: our cafeteria, in our
auditorium, some schools
51:55
in Iowa also dismissed early due
to high temps and no AC. At
51:59
seven
51:59
o'clock, it
52:00
John C Dvorak: was already 86 or
87 degrees. Oh no, by the time I
52:04
leave at one, it'll be in the
90s. Why this is considered good
52:09
weather 87 it's beautiful. If
people go to Hawaii just to be
52:14
in 87 degree weather. It's
called, now you're dying from
52:17
it. It's called Summer
52:19
Unknown: in Detroit, students
will be sent home early again
52:22
today, frustrating parents. They
52:24
knew the weather was going to be
rather hot, and they know they
52:27
don't have accommodations in a
school to where they're
52:29
providing AC, the heat
52:31
fueling more calls to invest
federal funds and outfitting
52:34
more schools with AC. The
extreme heat continues for
52:37
several days. Triple digits are
possible in Nashville today, and
52:41
Chicago could set a record. I've
52:43
Adam Curry: been to Chicago
before this climate change, and
52:46
it could set
52:47
John C Dvorak: a wet record, but
it's not going to but wait, it
52:50
gets better. I lived in Chicago.
Yeah, it's hot and humid. It's
52:56
terrible in the summer. Listen
52:58
Adam Curry: to listen to the the
last numerical statistics.
53:02
You'll love it with
53:03
Unknown: feel like temperatures
in parts of the Midwest,
53:05
reaching one. Did you hear it?
53:08
John C Dvorak: I, you know, I
was watching this with Jay the
53:11
other day. Feels like, feels
like now. Feels like, it feels
53:15
like
53:17
Adam Curry: now. It's just feels
like temperature. Yeah, it feels
53:20
John C Dvorak: like temperature.
It feels like, oh. And then they
53:23
here's the worst part, they put
a map up and they put all these
53:28
temperatures up, but they
weren't temperatures at all.
53:30
They were all feels like, yes,
so you had 115 110, and it was
53:36
just a map of all these very
high temperatures, but none of
53:40
them were real. They're all
feels like yes, and you could
53:43
feel well right now. Let me
think right here in the in the
53:47
podcasting room, it feels like
200 degrees. Well, maybe I
53:53
should take this shirt off. It
feels like 200 degrees. No,
53:57
Adam Curry: don't take the shirt
off. Whatever you
54:00
Unknown: do people? Digits are
possible. In Nashville today and
54:03
Chicago could set a record with
feel like temperatures in parts
54:06
of the Midwest reaching 115
degrees. As for that study on
54:11
heat related deaths, researchers
say the uptick has been
54:14
especially high in the last
seven years, which scientists
54:17
say proves the impact of climate
change.
54:20
Climate change.
54:22
Adam Curry: It's all due to
climate change. Oh,
54:25
John C Dvorak: the last seven
years. And by because it's
54:27
happened in the last seven
years, not the last 1 million
54:30
years, by the way, but the last
seven years proves it. Proves it
54:35
because it's gone on for seven
years, supposedly gone on for
54:39
seven years, you don't even know
that to be true. Yeah.
54:41
Adam Curry: So the got the hot
weather, it's moisture. We also
54:46
have corn sweat. I didn't pull
the clip, but that's another new
54:49
one. What's corn sweat? Corn
sweat is, you know, when it gets
54:55
warm, then every every living
plant exudes moisture. Her. And
55:01
so they show a map and like, Oh,
look at this in the in the corn
55:04
region, it's various very bad
mosquitoes because of corn
55:08
sweat.
55:13
John C Dvorak: You guys, you
blew it. Didn't get that clip?
55:16
Adam Curry: Well, I can actually
find it for you. No, don't
55:19
John C Dvorak: worry about it. I
already gave away the punchline
55:23
here, corn
55:23
Adam Curry: sweat. Let me say
Scientific American. Here we go,
55:27
corn sweat and climate change
brings sweltering weather to the
55:31
Mideast. A heat wave is
55:34
John C Dvorak: sweat. So it's
corn sweat that's bringing the
55:36
weather. Is that what it said?
Yeah,
55:37
Unknown: there's a reason why
this map of corn production
55:39
looks so similar to this map of
heat risk in the US today. And
55:43
the answer heat risk, another
55:45
Adam Curry: good one, John,
55:48
John C Dvorak: that's a show
title, heat risk
55:49
Unknown: in the US today. And
the answer is, corn sweat. Yes,
55:53
corn sweat. Corn sweat is a
truly excellent term for
55:56
something that's really known as
evapotranspiration. It's
56:00
something that, oh,
56:01
Adam Curry: evapotranspiration.
This is why I didn't pull the
56:04
clip, because it's not a news
clip. It's some, some peachy
56:09
thing talking inspiration.
56:10
Unknown: It's something that all
plants do. It's releasing water
56:13
into the atmosphere when it
grows to regulate temperature.
56:17
But corn does this especially
well, and where there's lots and
56:21
lots and lots of corn grown,
like in the Midwest, it actually
56:25
has a measurable impact on the
humidity of the area.
56:29
Adam Curry: Corn sweat. I think
that's the show title right
56:31
there. Corn sweat. I'm agreeing.
Corn sweat. So man, we just just
56:38
making it up as we go along.
What can what can we sigh up
56:41
these idiots with now on a corn
sweat? Oh, good one. And you
56:45
know what comes from corn sweat
mosquitoes, and what comes from
56:49
mosquitoes, sloth fever and Zika
and dengue and dengue, yeah, and
56:57
sloth fever and Equine
Encephalitis. Yeah, which way,
57:01
there's
57:02
John C Dvorak: 11 cases a year
on average, every year, year in
57:04
and year out. There's one so
far, which I think is, let's
57:07
just get that out of the
57:08
Adam Curry: way, which I think
is treatable with ivermectin, I
57:11
believe could be Yeah. So it's
weird, and they're just, it's
57:18
building it's a strategy of
tension. Just build it up. Build
57:21
it up. Build it up. Oh, think of
the children there. Why don't
57:24
the children? Why do the schools
not have air conditioning? We
57:28
spend hundreds of billions of
dollars a year on stupid books
57:35
and and stupid books, stupid
books, really stupid books that
57:40
go into the schools, dumb books.
Oh, my first blow job at 12. But
57:46
we don't have AC for these
children, by Bill Clinton, by
57:50
the way. Oh, we need to stop
this.
57:58
John C Dvorak: Schools have AC.
Yes,
58:01
Adam Curry: not the ones in the
report, not in Chicago,
58:04
apparently, not in Chicago. Did
you go to school when you lived
58:07
in Chicago?
58:08
John C Dvorak: I did, of course.
Did
58:09
Adam Curry: they have air
conditioning? I don't remember.
58:12
Did they have heating in the
winter? You'd hope they would.
58:15
Boy, you
58:16
John C Dvorak: have to have
heating in the winter. Yeah,
58:18
it's cold too. Yeah, Chicago's
got is, got extreme climate,
58:22
yes, always has, though, it gets
super cold in the winter, yeah,
58:27
and miserable. And it get and
miserable, yeah, and, and it
58:31
gets extremely hot and muggy in
the summer, and there's a good
58:35
period of time, there's
probably, uh, four months out of
58:38
the year just before summer, and
just after summer works. Really
58:41
super nice. It's so nice, yeah,
58:44
Adam Curry: oh the so nice.
That's it. You get 44
58:47
John C Dvorak: months out of the
year that comes from Chicago.
58:49
Ridiculously Nice. Yeah,
58:51
Adam Curry: there's always been,
but she didn't hear about corn
58:55
sweat because she grew up in
Indiana. Never heard of corn
58:58
sweat, strangely enough. Yeah,
yeah. Well, there we go. All
59:04
right. Back to you, Bob.
59:07
John C Dvorak: Well, what else
we got here? You know, I want to
59:09
get this out of the way. I
didn't want to get these clips,
59:11
but I'm going to do them. This
is about Jack Smith and re
59:15
rejiggering. Oh, good, yeah,
yeah. This is good. I didn't
59:18
want to get them, but it turns
out that there's interesting
59:21
material in here. This is I got
four it's four parter. It was an
59:25
analysis. So it turns out to be
a lot more than I wanted. But
59:28
it's all short. I mean, I wanted
eclipses 13 seconds, so it's not
59:32
gonna kill anybody. Good. So
let's go with Jax. And this is
59:35
all from NTD. This is mt d, so
the Democratic
59:40
Unknown: Congressman Jamie
Raskin called the superseding
59:43
indictment against former
President Donald Trump
59:45
heroic and something quietly
heroic about Jack Smith
59:50
insisting on going forward to
make sure that this plot come to
59:54
light, Donald Trump tried to
interfere with the peaceful
59:58
transfer of power. So Jack Smith
is trying to make the law work
1:00:03
in the way it was intended to,
1:00:04
Adam Curry: wow, that's exactly
right. He's trying to make the
1:00:08
law work,
1:00:09
John C Dvorak: trying to trying
to make the law work.
1:00:13
Adam Curry: He just admits it.
He's just finagling everything
1:00:15
to try and squeeze it into the
law to make it work. All right.
1:00:20
John C Dvorak: Jamie Raskin is a
dick.
1:00:22
Adam Curry: Jamie Raskin is a
problem. He's, he's a he is, I'd
1:00:26
say, top of the list of people
we need to get out of there.
1:00:30
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's a
terrible person. He's a Yeah,
1:00:32
and he looks evil. If you look
at him. He's just an evil
1:00:35
looking guy. Yeah, and, and he's
like, all in he has this theory
1:00:41
that it is, I don't have the
clip on this list, but he came
1:00:45
out with saying we're gonna not
let Trump take office if he
1:00:48
wins. Yes, yeah. He said
1:00:50
Adam Curry: we're gonna have to
have a Secret Service protection
1:00:52
for everybody in Congress,
because we're gonna get him out
1:00:56
and, you know, basically saying
we'll have a civil war, but
1:00:58
we'll be protected.
1:01:01
John C Dvorak: Yes, I heard that
clip. Basically, is what he
1:01:03
said, exactly. Yeah, that's what
he said. He is a very horrible
1:01:07
he's a horrible man. Okay, part
two,
1:01:10
Unknown: Speaker of the House,
Mike Johnson posted on social
1:01:13
media that Donald Trump
continues to be the most
1:01:15
persecuted politician in the
history of the US. Speaker
1:01:18
Johnson added that special
counsel Jack Smith has brought
1:01:21
yet another bogus indictment,
and that Americans are sick of
1:01:24
his corruption and shameless law
fair, Democratic Congresswoman
1:01:28
soy lovbren from California
aimed her criticism at the
1:01:31
Supreme Court's ruling last
month on presidential immunity
1:01:34
and blamed former President
Donald Trump for the events of
1:01:37
January 6
1:01:38
Supreme Court made really a
radical decision granting Trump
1:01:46
immunity. Bizarre case, the
judge has to have an evidentiary
1:01:50
hearing to find out what is the
evidence supporting the slimmed
1:01:55
down indictment. But I mean, one
thing is abundantly clear, the
1:01:59
former president summoned a mob
to Washington.
1:02:05
Adam Curry: Who was that
speaking?
1:02:07
John C Dvorak: Our local idiot,
Zoe Lofgren,
1:02:11
Adam Curry: oh, Zoe is still
around. Isn't? Was wasn't Zoe a
1:02:16
trans
1:02:17
John C Dvorak: No, no.
1:02:19
Adam Curry: I think of someone.
Else. She
1:02:20
John C Dvorak: just looks child.
She's an ugly woman. Oh, they're
1:02:26
Adam Curry: so judgmental.
1:02:28
Unknown: Well, well,
1:02:28
Adam Curry: we're handsome,
luckily. Well,
1:02:30
John C Dvorak: that's what we do
for this. No, we're not.
1:02:32
Adam Curry: Yes, we are. You
1:02:33
John C Dvorak: can make a
judgment about somebody being
1:02:35
ugly when they're ugly. I mean,
I don't think there's any reason
1:02:38
not to make this judgment.
1:02:40
Adam Curry: I'm with you. I'm
glad you said it.
1:02:43
John C Dvorak: You know, I've
never been condemned for that.
1:02:46
Adam Curry: People are afraid of
you, and they can't spell your
1:02:49
last name, so they don't know
how to email you. They email me
1:02:52
instead. Okay, so
1:02:54
John C Dvorak: we go, we now we
get to hear something that you
1:02:56
may have heard elsewhere. Let's
go to clip three. Senator
1:02:59
Unknown: and vice presidential
candidate JD Vance defended the
1:03:02
Supreme Court's ruling regarding
presidential immunity and
1:03:06
dismissed the superseding
indictment against former
1:03:08
President Donald Trump as
election interference. The
1:03:11
way that I think about it is try
to make this nonpartisan Barack
1:03:14
Obama ordered drones to strike
an American citizen in Yemen.
1:03:18
That's like the definition of
murder, unless you recognize the
1:03:22
President has some immunity in
conducting his official act.
1:03:26
Adam Curry: There's Vance doing
the translation, doing his job,
1:03:30
John C Dvorak: but he does, does
it well. And the fact is that
1:03:34
nobody keep he's the first guy
noticed that really brought it
1:03:37
up, which is that Obama, if you
didn't have this immunity
1:03:40
decision by the Supreme Court
would be Obama would be liable
1:03:44
for murder. And the only thing
Vance didn't do is bring up the
1:03:48
fact that, after murdering the
American citizen, he murdered
1:03:52
his son a few days later. Yeah.
Well, you know that innocent 16
1:03:57
year old kid drinking a coffee,
drinking a coffee mind his own
1:04:02
business, but no, that's okay.
That's good. That's good. All
1:04:08
right, I'm onward. It
1:04:09
Unknown: is important to note
that despite criticism against
1:04:11
Special Counsel investigations
against former President Donald
1:04:14
Trump, House Republican
leadership has decided not to
1:04:17
pursue the strategy of defunding
the Department of Justice
1:04:20
through the appropriations
process. What
1:04:25
John C Dvorak: Wait, this is the
reason I ended with this clip
1:04:29
was, this is the typical
Republicans, and they've been
1:04:33
doing this, and they do it and
do it. Holly just did it with a
1:04:37
by bringing on one
1:04:40
Adam Curry: showboat, and then
nothing happens,
1:04:42
John C Dvorak: yeah? Showboat,
in fact, she he actually, for
1:04:46
all practical purpose. He had
gray, I don't have the clip, but
1:04:48
he had Granholm, yeah, and he's
get lecturing her about how she
1:04:52
lied. Wait a minute, she lied to
Congress. Where is the
1:04:56
indictment for lying to now, if
it was a Republican in. In the
1:05:00
olden days, and a Democrat was
the Democrats are running
1:05:03
Congress. They indict them.
Yeah, they're lying to Congress.
1:05:08
They're much
1:05:08
Adam Curry: better at that
stuff. More to do. You just send
1:05:12
John C Dvorak: the indictment
through. They won't do it. They
1:05:15
just keep harassing them,
haranguing them and making them
1:05:18
looking good by being a showboat
or like Holly, and then you do
1:05:22
nothing. You do absolutely
nothing. These Republicans are
1:05:24
ridiculous. I would have
1:05:26
Adam Curry: more respect for
Holly if you just said, Hey,
1:05:27
Grant home, you're ugly and you
got big ears. I'd have respect
1:05:31
for him if you said that. No,
she's
1:05:33
John C Dvorak: not. She's not. I
wouldn't call her ugly. No.
1:05:35
Okay, so
1:05:38
Adam Curry: I have tried, and I
have some stuff here on this?
1:05:41
Well, I
1:05:41
John C Dvorak: want to do this
the last clip. This is the
1:05:43
analysis just it was a long
analysis. I only took I have
1:05:47
part one, but I didn't clip
anything else. Earlier,
1:05:50
Unknown: we spoke with Zach
Smith, senior legal fellow at
1:05:52
the Heritage Foundation, and
former federal prosecutor, about
1:05:55
the superseding indictment. Zach
Smith, thank you so much for
1:05:58
joining us. Great to have you
back on the show. Now to begin
1:06:00
what changes were made to this
newest indictment, the original
1:06:04
four charges haven't changed. So
what's different here?
1:06:08
Yeah, this is a little bit of an
unusual situation for a
1:06:11
superseding indictment. A
superseding indictment typically
1:06:14
means that prosecutors are
adding additional charges
1:06:17
against a defendant, but that's
not what Jack Smith did in this
1:06:21
case, as you mentioned, Jack
Smith left before original
1:06:24
charges intact, but he
essentially changed the factual
1:06:28
predicates underlying those
charges. For instance, he
1:06:31
removed references to Donald
Trump's conversations with
1:06:34
Justice Department officials in
the wake of the 2020 election.
1:06:37
He added some language to make
clear that, in his view certain
1:06:40
actions Donald Trump took in his
private or political capacities
1:06:44
rather than in his official
capacity. And he also added some
1:06:48
additional language relevant to
some of the other charges,
1:06:52
again, trying to emphasize that
those were private rather than
1:06:56
official acts. And the reason
Jack Smith took these actions,
1:06:59
the reason he made these
amendments is to try to get
1:07:01
around the immunity that the US
Supreme Court recently released,
1:07:06
where the Court said that
presidents, including Donald
1:07:09
Trump, are immune from
prosecution for actually taking
1:07:13
their official capacity while in
office.
1:07:16
Adam Curry: So I have an
analysis from our constitutional
1:07:19
lawyer, Rob Rob, who read, who
read everything, and I shall
1:07:26
read this for us right now. It's
relatively short. Under the
1:07:30
SCOTUS ruling, the charges can't
go forward unless Smith can show
1:07:34
that the alleged conduct is
either one, an unofficial Act,
1:07:38
or two, an official act that
doesn't fall within the outer
1:07:42
perimeter of the President's
official responsibility and is
1:07:46
not manifestly or palpably
beyond his authority. This is a
1:07:51
difficult burden for Smith to
satisfy. The outer perimeter
1:07:55
beyond his authority. Language
captures a vast range of
1:07:58
presidential conduct. This is
all as per the Supreme Court, so
1:08:01
it will be very likely, so it
will very likely encompass the
1:08:04
conduct alleged in the new
indictment. To the extent it
1:08:07
does, the courts must presume
that Trump is immune, and Smith
1:08:11
will have to overcome that
presumption, according to rob, a
1:08:14
very tall order. And remember,
there's still the lingering
1:08:17
issue raised by Justice Thomas
that Jack Smith appointment is
1:08:21
invalid under Article two
appointments clause, because
1:08:24
there's no law that establishes
Smith's office. If Trump wins
1:08:28
the election, this case will
die. DOJ doesn't prosecute
1:08:31
sitting presidents as a matter
of policy. And one thing he
1:08:35
says, Would you keep in mind, if
the M 5m and Dames and Dems
1:08:39
claim that this is a nail in
Trump's coffin, they will have
1:08:42
to simultaneously retreat from
their incompatible claim that
1:08:45
SCOTUS gave Trump total freedom
to do whatever he does or
1:08:49
whatever he wants to do. So this
is really all this is. Is just a
1:08:55
setup for questions during the
debate. That's all that this is.
1:08:59
That's why Trump immediately
started fundraising off of it,
1:09:02
as witnessed by another 8
million text messages. Yeah,
1:09:08
it's really just
1:09:09
John C Dvorak: so late. Yes,
these are on a phone that you
1:09:12
carry with you. For summary,
you're carrying a phone around
1:09:15
wherever you go.
1:09:18
Adam Curry: It's just, it's just
a text number. Yeah, so this is
1:09:27
it's all just about this debate.
1:09:29
John C Dvorak: Can you call
back, by the way, when they send
1:09:31
you one of these messages? Let
me see that's very calling. I
1:09:35
would call them back. Say hello.
You keep sending me these
1:09:37
messages. You want to talk?
That's
1:09:40
Adam Curry: a very good
question. Let me see this is an
1:09:43
alert from Donald Trump. Okay, I
was just indicted again. Please
1:09:50
read my response to Special
Counsel. No, I'm not going to
1:09:53
read them to call him back.
Let's see if I'm going to call
1:09:55
and not in
1:09:57
Unknown: service. Please check
the number and dial again. Oh,
1:10:00
it's
1:10:00
Adam Curry: not a service. Let's
try another one. Let's because I
1:10:04
have a lot from President Trump.
This is Donald Trump Jr. Let's
1:10:07
call Junior. Let's see what
Junior give
1:10:09
John C Dvorak: him a call, see
what he says. To say,
1:10:12
Adam Curry: oh, disconnected
right away. Let me see from
1:10:19
Trump, who's asking for $10
let's see and invalid number.
1:10:25
Now this is all, wait a minute,
it's a 213, number two. You're
1:10:29
John C Dvorak: giving getting
phone calls, a message, phone
1:10:32
calls, in other words, the
message through a phone, and you
1:10:36
call the number, and the number
is bogus. Wait, here's this is.
1:10:39
This is no different than a
number from Taiwan, China,
1:10:43
Philippines, India. Bombay, hey,
1:10:45
Adam Curry: let's call Rand
Paul. Let's see what he has to
1:10:48
say. He's in Virginia. Oh, no.
Oh, invalid number. Okay. Oh,
1:10:53
gee. Isn't that crazy? Well, I
can't even hang if
1:10:57
John C Dvorak: you can't call
him back, why would you send him
1:10:59
money? It sounds like you don't
know who it is you're sending
1:11:01
to. Could be anybody? Could be
anybody?
1:11:07
Adam Curry: Ah, yes, yes,
1:11:09
John C Dvorak: yes. Well, yeah,
welcome to the modern era.
1:11:12
Adam Curry: Yes, Hey, um, I got
a interesting clip here from our
1:11:15
from our buddy, Becky Worley,
have you spoken to Becky
1:11:19
recently?
1:11:20
John C Dvorak: No, I should have
lunch with her. I usually, I
1:11:22
used to have lunch with her once
a year. Yeah, but she's in LA,
1:11:25
isn't she? No, she used the
peninsula, as far as I know, and
1:11:28
then she moved. You
1:11:29
Adam Curry: need to go up there.
You need to go visit her and the
1:11:31
kids.
1:11:34
John C Dvorak: It's not up, is
down? Oh,
1:11:36
Adam Curry: she go down there.
Go down to Becky Worley, I've
1:11:41
always liked Becky Worley. I
mean, I, I always feel sad
1:11:45
because she is nothing like the
stupid reports they make her do.
1:11:49
But she, you know, she's playing
the game. She got kids and a
1:11:52
wife and, you know, she's got a,
yeah, she
1:11:54
John C Dvorak: is a She's a hard
worker. She's good at what she
1:11:57
does. She's always was behind.
She was a producer. Originally,
1:12:01
always behind. I first met her
when she was MSNBC, when it was
1:12:05
a different kind of network, and
she was always the producer of
1:12:10
shows. And then she but she had
the look and feel of a person
1:12:14
who had front of camera. She was
good looking on camera. She's
1:12:18
photo telegenic. She
1:12:19
Adam Curry: is she's a little
harsh in person, little more
1:12:22
well, what is the that's not the
right word harsh? Maybe it is
1:12:26
the right word.
1:12:27
John C Dvorak: She's a good
looking woman in person. Yes,
1:12:30
Adam Curry: he's not like Jamie
Raskin now,
1:12:33
John C Dvorak: but she's
telegenic, and she's very good
1:12:36
on the on the on the camera. I
guess she's always felt that
1:12:38
way. So she once she got then
the other side of the camera.
1:12:41
She stopped doing producing,
from what I can tell, and she's
1:12:46
she's good. I think she's very
talented. She's personable.
1:12:49
Adam Curry: Well, I think she is
adding something to the hair and
1:12:52
hookers report for the economy,
and it's something I have not
1:12:57
yet asked the Zoomer about. But
I take this to be very credible
1:13:01
luxury or
1:13:02
Unknown: affordability, right?
But what if you could have them
1:13:05
both? That's the premise fueling
a rise in Gen Z and millennials
1:13:09
shopping for so called dupes
instead of brand name goods. But
1:13:13
what's the downside? As we all
search for value this morning,
1:13:17
influencers are touting so
called dupes with pride. Don't
1:13:22
go
1:13:22
buy leggings for that much money
when you can get these for half
1:13:25
the price. It's
1:13:26
the same product. It's the same
it's the same thing.
1:13:30
It's always really fun to find a
really great, affordable
1:13:33
alternative to something,
because you're helping your
1:13:36
friends out, and you can tell
them, like, hey, you've been
1:13:38
using this, here's this. And
then they can put more money
1:13:41
towards bills instead of
foundation
1:13:43
and a path here has a series on
our socials where she breaks
1:13:46
down the active ingredients in
high end products and shows less
1:13:49
expensive options with the same
components. So
1:13:52
is everything that's highlighted
in yellow here is also
1:13:55
highlighted in yellow here.
Saving
1:13:57
money on items is now becoming
something that's a little bit in
1:14:01
vogue. It's cool to be wearing
something that is less
1:14:05
expensive, but looks
1:14:06
like the expensive brand. And
Herzog, who wrote a book on
1:14:09
counterfeit, says these so
called do products are different
1:14:13
from illegal knockoffs.
1:14:15
A do product doesn't necessarily
mean counterfeit. What it does
1:14:20
mean is that it is a similar
product, but less expensive than
1:14:26
the original product. When
you're talking about a
1:14:29
counterfeit item, you're talking
about an item that's pretending
1:14:32
to be like the original item,
down to the name of the item.
1:14:36
But
1:14:37
experts do say buying these
products brings up other issues
1:14:40
worth considering. Dupes
1:14:42
do not come with extended
warranties. You have a very
1:14:45
specific time that you need to
return that in. This
1:14:49
Adam Curry: is, this is what the
shop influencers are doing. And
1:14:55
let's just face it, everything
comes from China here,
1:14:58
everything we buy in America,
pretty much. Everything comes
1:15:00
from China, and you can get the
exact same product, and they're
1:15:04
not talking about brands like
Gucci, but everything else from
1:15:08
the from the makeup products,
which I looked it up the Amazon
1:15:12
influencer program. Number one
is games, online games. You can
1:15:16
get 20% VIG on the games. Right
after that, it's beauty and
1:15:20
makeup products, which is a big
deal on the Instagram, as you
1:15:24
know, all the makeup tip
influencers. And I think that
1:15:30
this is an interesting
development, and it goes right
1:15:32
along with the lab grown
diamonds. It's all part of the
1:15:38
same thing. We got a note from
Jessica who used to work in the
1:15:42
diamond industry, and she says,
lab grown diamonds are a great
1:15:47
way to sell jewelry to people
who cannot afford the price tag
1:15:50
of natural diamonds. They're
also a good way for jewelers to
1:15:52
make money, as you can slap a
huge markup to a lab grown and
1:15:56
it will still still come out
cheaper than the real thing. She
1:15:59
says, however people discover
when they get divorced and try
1:16:02
to sell their lab grown diamond
back to a jewelry shop, it's
1:16:05
basically worthless. It makes
nothing but sense. Makes nothing
1:16:13
but sense. So we're just living
in this fantasy land of
1:16:17
expensive products, which you
don't really need to buy. The
1:16:20
expense. You're the king of
this. We should do tips on
1:16:23
dupes. A dupe tip. Well, I've
1:16:26
John C Dvorak: always been a fan
of these things. Of course,
1:16:28
you're a frugal man, and I have,
well, for good reason, yeah, and
1:16:35
I've always had been a fan of
the Canal Street counterfeit
1:16:39
watch business. Is not what it
once was gone. It's gone. It's
1:16:44
gone. But my favorite
counterfeit watch, and I became
1:16:50
pretty good at spotting other
people who have counterfeit
1:16:53
watches. I've gone out to dinner
with Bishop. Do you think you
1:16:55
know you're kind of an expert on
this? Is this watch that my my
1:16:58
mother in law gave me? Is this a
real Rolex?
1:17:02
Adam Curry: Well, that's
counterfeit. That's not a dupe.
1:17:04
That's a counterfeit.
1:17:06
John C Dvorak: Yes, it
counterfeits. It counterfeits
1:17:08
are a part of the I see. But say
poo, poo counterfeits. No,
1:17:11
Adam Curry: no, it's it. I
believe, I think, like you, that
1:17:14
a lot of especially when it
comes to bags, handbags, for
1:17:18
sure, it's all from the same
factory. It's stuff.
1:17:23
John C Dvorak: I went to Korea
one year, and I just areas where
1:17:28
you can get these, what use,
bags, bags. And they had Eddie
1:17:32
Bauer bags for that. I know that
well. There's a blast from the
1:17:36
past. It was, it was a while
ago, is Eddie Bowers, these
1:17:41
Eddie Bower bags, and they were
beautiful, and they had the
1:17:44
logo. Everything was there. And
I realized a lot of this stuff
1:17:46
that you get from these
counterfeiters is not really
1:17:49
counterfeit. It's end of run 10
run, yes, they over produce.
1:17:57
They over produce. They get an
order for for 10,000 they crank
1:18:01
it up, and then they can't stop
the line fast enough, and
1:18:03
there's an extra 1000 to fall
off the back. What do we do with
1:18:06
these? So they sell them at cost
or twice cost, like so instead
1:18:14
of 50 bucks for the bag, is 10
or $8 but
1:18:18
Adam Curry: now you're seeing
that the brands, the the
1:18:20
companies that advertise on
television, they have a problem.
1:18:25
I'm surprised that Becky even
was allowed to do this, this
1:18:30
particular item that she did,
because it's going to cut into
1:18:35
these huge, luxurious brands the
1:18:38
John C Dvorak: margins. Yeah,
yes, those guys make mar the
1:18:41
margin is their game. Oh, man,
1:18:44
Adam Curry: you know, when my
first wife had had a cosmetics
1:18:47
company, the only reason I
agreed to it is one to shut her
1:18:51
up, and the second, well,
there's two reasons. The second
1:18:53
was the margins were incredible.
It's just goop. You know, you
1:18:57
like eyebrow pencils. It all
comes from one factory in
1:19:01
Germany, or at least back in the
day, I don't know if Germany
1:19:03
produces anything anymore, the
men Schwan pencils. This where
1:19:08
you get all your pencils,
including your H, 2h b2, pencil,
1:19:12
everything. It all comes from
one factory, and it's all about
1:19:15
the packaging. It's all about
packaging. That's where the
1:19:19
that's where you mark it up.
We're living in a fake world.
1:19:22
John, we are. It's fake. It's
phony, and it's only it's only a
1:19:31
matter of time until they call
compounded GLP ones dupes.
1:19:36
They're already trying to make
it look like it's counterfeit
1:19:39
because, oh, we can't cut. It's
the same thing. We
1:19:41
John C Dvorak: can't cut into
the margin. Chemical. A chemical
1:19:44
is a chemical. Yes, sodium
chloride is salt. No matter how
1:19:49
you cut it, that's right, no
matter how you make it, no
1:19:51
matter how you let it evaporate
from the water, no matter how
1:19:55
you get get sodium chloride,
it's still sodium chloride.
1:19:59
Adam Curry: It. I'm laughing at
the troll room. The world is
1:20:03
fake and gay. Okay, well, you
summed it up. There you go. And
1:20:08
And just to prove these margins
how crazy it is and the fake
1:20:12
world we're living in which you
can opt out of, Eli Lilly made a
1:20:17
nice, interesting move the other
day.
1:20:19
Unknown: Tonight, the drug
1:20:19
maker Eli Lilly is making its
popular weight loss drug,
1:20:22
zeppbound more affordable for
anyone whose insurance won't
1:20:25
cover it. Zeppbound will now be
sold on the ELI Willy website
1:20:29
with a prescription. The cost is
about half of the retail price.
1:20:33
Adam Curry: This half. Why is it
half? This,
1:20:36
John C Dvorak: of course, is not
for still making money. Yes,
1:20:38
this
1:20:39
Adam Curry: is not for people
with insurance. This is for
1:20:41
people who whose insurance won't
cover it, and all of a sudden
1:20:44
it's half but okay, let's put it
on Medicare so everybody else
1:20:47
can pay for it at full price,
price, full markup. Maybe one
1:20:55
day people will catch on, I
don't know. No, no, no. That's
1:20:59
John C Dvorak: not gonna work.
That's not even possible if they
1:21:01
listen to this podcast. Well,
we'll have a million people that
1:21:06
kind of catch on. But even so,
we've noticed, even though
1:21:08
listeners to our podcast, the
producers, every so often they
1:21:13
come up with some note that they
send us, that they've they've
1:21:16
locked they've been hook, line
and sinker, into some scam of
1:21:21
some sort that you know, you
hope that they were would be
1:21:25
immune to, based on what we keep
saying. Do you have an example?
1:21:28
No, do
1:21:29
Adam Curry: you have an example?
I
1:21:30
John C Dvorak: don't have one
off the top of my head, but it
1:21:31
happens all the time.
1:21:33
Unknown: It's sad.
1:21:35
John C Dvorak: It's just not
you, you can't beat you can't
1:21:39
beat back mainstream media and
its brow beating of the public.
1:21:44
Well,
1:21:44
Adam Curry: it is slowly, slowly
disintegrate. No, it's
1:21:47
John C Dvorak: not you. You're a
dreamer. You're a you're the
1:21:52
idealist.
1:21:54
Adam Curry: I have hope. I have
at least 10 more years of hope
1:21:57
on you. That's why I'm still in
that hope phase. Good luck. And
1:22:02
with that, I'd like to thank you
for your courage. Say in the
1:22:04
morning to you, the man who put
the sea in corn sweat, say hello
1:22:07
to my friend on the other end,
the one and only. Mr. Jones,
1:22:09
good
1:22:13
John C Dvorak: morning. You. Mr.
M curry, in the morning, all
1:22:15
ships and sea blues from the
ground, feeding the air subs in
1:22:17
the water, and all the Dames and
nights out there. Oh, let
1:22:20
Adam Curry: me check this out.
This is very odd. The troll
1:22:23
Unknown: count seems to be low.
Count. We
1:22:27
Adam Curry: must have the corn
sweat has devoured them. 1870
1:22:31
seems low for a Thursday, don't
we usually have more on a
1:22:33
Thursday?
1:22:35
John C Dvorak: No, we usually
have 1700
1:22:37
Adam Curry: Let me see. Oh, you,
I'm sorry, you're right. Let me
1:22:40
see now the last the last
Thursday, was 1889 Oh, you're
1:22:47
right. No, it's about right. I'm
sorry, you're right. 1870 so
1:22:51
we're on par. Hey, trolls. How
you doing? Are you corn sweating
1:22:55
in that troll room? You can join
them, by the way. But going to
1:22:57
trollroom.io. You can listen to
the no agenda stream, 24/7 live,
1:23:03
huh? So some you know, we're on
tune in. You know the app tune
1:23:08
in? No, I don't it's a streaming
radio app, and you can use tune
1:23:14
in to listen to radio streams
from radio stations. And the no
1:23:18
agenda stream is on there. It's
been on there. That's good for a
1:23:21
long, long time. Yeah, that's
good. But when you tap on it,
1:23:24
because I have it in the car,
this for some reason, and that
1:23:28
it has it, you can get Sirius XM
and tune in. Okay, so I listened
1:23:32
to tune in, and it starts off
with two ads. Oh, they're just
1:23:36
jacking ads in front of stuff.
1:23:38
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
1:23:39
Adam Curry: that's lame. All
right? This, this, it's a
1:23:43
ripoff, so don't use tune in to
rip off or Spotify. It's a
1:23:47
ripple. What?
1:23:47
John C Dvorak: What is the best
way to listen to the no agenda
1:23:50
show in the car? Well, you're
dreaming.
1:23:52
Adam Curry: You could. There's
two ways. I would suggest you
1:23:55
get a modern podcast app,
because not only will you be
1:23:58
driving in the car and all
sudden, bloop, it'll alert you
1:24:01
through your Android Auto or
your car play, or if you just
1:24:04
have your phone with you and
it's connected to Bluetooth, and
1:24:07
the modern podcast app will say,
hey, no agenda. Show is live.
1:24:10
You tap on it's the same place
you get your podcast, and it
1:24:13
starts playing. Now, we do not
recommend you enter the troll
1:24:17
room while driving. You can,
but, you know, we don't
1:24:21
recommend it, but you can use
trollroom.io, to get in, log in,
1:24:26
make an account, and everything
and and that's where the trolls
1:24:29
are. Podcast apps.com, you know,
if you want to continue to
1:24:32
listen to your favorite podcasts
before they get jacked and you
1:24:36
get all those great new
features, unlike everybody else,
1:24:41
like the Kelsey brothers. Holy
Mo. Did you hear this nonsense?
1:24:45
This, this promotional bull
crap? I'm going to play it for
1:24:49
you. New
1:24:49
Unknown: f1 32 Kelsey brothers
are taking their new heights
1:24:52
podcast to new heights
financially. Jason and Travis
1:24:56
Kelsey signed a new deal with
Amazon's wondery. That is.
1:25:00
Worth, reportedly, $100 million
over three years. The brothers
1:25:04
said they are excited about the
partnership and are thrilled to
1:25:06
start season three. The podcast
has been around since 2022 and
1:25:10
has won multiple awards,
including podcast of the Year at
1:25:13
the 2024 I heart Podcast Awards.
1:25:17
Adam Curry: We need an award.
1:25:19
John C Dvorak: We've gotten
awards. We don't
1:25:21
Adam Curry: pay to enter
anymore. So we don't get awards,
1:25:24
because every award show, no,
you have to pay to enter. Yes,
1:25:27
John C Dvorak: this is a this is
a fact of awards you have to
1:25:30
pay. Yeah,
1:25:31
Adam Curry: so we don't do that.
What the iHeart Awards? Please.
1:25:35
I
1:25:35
John C Dvorak: heard awards for
people that are on I Heart. Yes,
1:25:38
exactly. Well, also, I never
heard of this podcast, by the
1:25:43
way, and I like sports. Well,
1:25:45
Adam Curry: this, if you read
the release carefully, it's the
1:25:48
same as call her daddy. What
they're saying is,
1:25:52
John C Dvorak: it's so it's all
about blow jobs. It's, it's a
1:25:55
distribution
1:25:56
Adam Curry: deal. And wondery,
which was purchased by Amazon,
1:26:01
they will be able to sell ads.
So the deal can be worth up to
1:26:05
$100 million advertising
Exactly. So they're getting a
1:26:10
minimum guarantee, and I'm not
discounting that most
1:26:14
advertising money on television
and streaming goes into football
1:26:18
specifically. So there's a lot,
there's a lot of money that that
1:26:22
people will put into this, but
it's this. Oh, it's 100 million.
1:26:26
Oh, podcasting is still doing
great. No, well, podcasting is a
1:26:32
vow of poverty. People
1:26:34
John C Dvorak: more, more power
to them a and it's no sweat off
1:26:38
my balls. There
1:26:39
Adam Curry: you go. So instead
of paying to enter awards and
1:26:43
getting beat up on the football
pitch, John and I decided we'll
1:26:47
just do podcasts twice a week,
and we'll ask people to support
1:26:50
us if they think what we do is
worth anything, if we have
1:26:53
improved your life in any way.
Some people say it helps them.
1:26:56
Some people say, You know what,
I feel better listening to the
1:26:59
no agenda show because we're
light hearted. We're not so
1:27:03
serious. I literally saw Megyn
Kelly, boy, I like Megyn Kelly,
1:27:08
and don't get me wrong, but she
was yelling at Caitlyn, the CNN
1:27:14
lady, yelling.
1:27:15
John C Dvorak: She was, she was
all emotional on that thing, but
1:27:18
Adam Curry: she was, she was
yelling, Caitlin, here's a tip,
1:27:21
smile from time to time. And
this whole rant, she does
1:27:25
exactly, and she has a beautiful
smile. But will she smile? No,
1:27:30
it's like Pot, kettle. Hello.
Everyone's unhinged. We're not
1:27:36
unhinged. We're just poor. But
today, value came in in multiple
1:27:41
ways. The first thing we want to
do is thank our artists, who
1:27:44
always support us with their
time and their talent. It's part
1:27:47
of the trifecta time, talents
and treasure, and they support
1:27:50
us by making artwork that fits
with the show. They're doing it
1:27:54
during the live show. It's
amazing. They do this in this
1:27:57
case, in the evening, hours
after dinner, for the Dutch
1:28:00
masters who were working on
things. And Dutch master, who
1:28:04
lives in Chicago, brought us the
artwork for Episode 1689, and
1:28:09
that was Darren O'Neill with the
ozempic ice cream, which was a
1:28:13
classic, no agenda product,
comic strip. Blogger right away.
1:28:20
It's like, this is you can do
this. This is not fair use. Yes,
1:28:25
it
1:28:25
John C Dvorak: is Fair Use about
what did that art be stolen?
1:28:29
Adam Curry: No, he says, because
you're using the brand name,
1:28:31
ozempic. No, no, no, exactly.
Tell him. Tell him, John,
1:28:36
John C Dvorak: this is a as a
parody or a humor, and not for
1:28:40
the purposes of of cloning a
product. This is totally legal,
1:28:45
yes,
1:28:45
Adam Curry: and, and, by the
way, when comic strip blogger
1:28:48
freaks out is really good art,
then you know it's good art.
1:28:52
John C Dvorak: Well, he had a
good piece that I thought was
1:28:55
good, but you hated it, which
was his jazz queen, but I did,
1:28:59
Adam Curry: no,
1:28:59
John C Dvorak: I do not hella
pigeus ass.
1:29:01
Adam Curry: I did not hate it. I
said to you, I would be all for
1:29:07
it if the letters actually look
like they were on the jeans, and
1:29:11
they just didn't. And you agreed
with me in my hate I
1:29:15
John C Dvorak: did, yeah,
exactly
1:29:17
Adam Curry: see with other
pieces are, oh, we haven't said
1:29:22
the W word yet. There was a tip
jar for that. I don't think
1:29:25
we're doing quite well. What
else was there? Oh, that's yeah,
1:29:30
the right. There was a lot of
yes queens, a lot of yes queens,
1:29:34
yeah. But we're like, yeah. It
was a little overplayed at that
1:29:37
point. We had kind of done that.
I did like the very demure, very
1:29:43
mindful cheesecake, but you
thought it was too simple and
1:29:46
also same. That was a comics or
Blogger piece. But again, the
1:29:50
the letters didn't look they
like they were really on the t
1:29:54
John C Dvorak: shirt. Weren't
mapped, mapped. Thank they
1:29:56
weren't surface mapped. No,
1:29:58
Adam Curry: no, and that's,
that's the
1:29:59
John C Dvorak: which you. Can do
with Photoshop. I mean, it's
1:30:01
very easy, but AI, this is all
can't figure it out. How did,
1:30:07
Adam Curry: how are the earnings
for the for our favorite AI
1:30:10
company yesterday, all I saw,
yeah, all day. Oh, this.
1:30:16
Everyone's waiting. Oh, it's
down. It's down five and a half
1:30:21
percent. I guess they didn't do
do so, no, they actually, they
1:30:24
beat expectations, and people
are still selling.
1:30:27
John C Dvorak: There's something
going on. Yes, it's
1:30:30
Adam Curry: called the blow up
of AI nonsense, have you? You
1:30:33
don't, you don't have chat, GPT,
do you?
1:30:37
John C Dvorak: I know. I just do
it. If I'm ever going to use it.
1:30:40
I use it online. Well,
1:30:41
Adam Curry: here's what you want
to type in and it. I think Elon
1:30:46
Musk has corrected grok on this
one. But if you type in how many
1:30:50
Rs are in the word strawberry,
every ai i have used, including
1:30:56
the ones I run here at home, say
there are two Rs in strawberry,
1:31:02
even though there's clearly
three,
1:31:06
John C Dvorak: isn't that?
What's the point of this
1:31:08
exercise to prove the AI sucks?
Yes,
1:31:12
Adam Curry: yes, of course it
is. That means there's no
1:31:14
intelligence. It's just
splitting
1:31:17
John C Dvorak: the tool that
grok was fixed just by hand. Oh,
1:31:21
yeah, of course, it was how you
do it.
1:31:22
Adam Curry: They will all be
fixed by hand. You have to go
1:31:24
tweak it, yeah. Where did I
learn about this? On X so, of
1:31:27
course, you know this is, this
is what you do. You launch,
1:31:31
John C Dvorak: brought it. You
launched your hand, tweak it,
1:31:34
and then you point out everyone
else's screw, yeah, exactly,
1:31:37
exactly called Marketing.
1:31:39
Unknown: Yes, it's good.
1:31:40
John C Dvorak: It's good because
good marketing.
1:31:44
Adam Curry: Was there anything
else that we liked? I don't
1:31:45
think there was much. I don't
think there was anything else
1:31:48
John C Dvorak: actually was
pretty was pretty lame. It was
1:31:50
demure. I did use, I'm not using
that word that should be banned.
1:31:56
I did use one piece that was the
girls whispering to each other
1:32:01
from scaramonga as the
1:32:03
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, but that
was a good piece for the
1:32:05
newsletter, because, yeah, it
wasn't, you know, wasn't. Yeah,
1:32:08
I'm passing some news on. It's
good for a newsletter. Hey,
1:32:11
listen to this. It's like Betty
and Veronica. These two, the
1:32:15
scarabanga piece. That's good.
1:32:17
John C Dvorak: Well, thank you.
Veronica's a brunette and this
1:32:20
girl's a red details,
1:32:21
Adam Curry: details, white,
details. Thank you very much.
1:32:24
Darren O'Neill for bringing us
the artwork for Episode 1689, we
1:32:28
appreciate it. We appreciate the
work that all of our Dutch
1:32:30
masters do. You guys are awesome
that I don't use that word
1:32:34
lightly. Anybody can upload art
to no agenda, artgenerator.com,
1:32:38
it's simple. Go ahead. Try it
out, then you too can be
1:32:41
excoriated for doing it wrong.
We're happy to do it for you.
1:32:45
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very valuable. Now. Let us thank
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comes in about once a month,
sironymous of Dog Patch and
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lower slobovia, now normally a
3333 donation would be a
1:34:06
rubbilizer, and he didn't do
3333 he did 3322 which I'm
1:34:13
presuming includes a couple of
$2 bills, because he always
1:34:16
sends cash from an undisclosed
location. I'm going to get, I
1:34:20
believe there was one $2 I'm
gonna give him the rubbilizer
1:34:23
anyway. But he says, John, this
is a long note for you, so you
1:34:29
have to read it. No,
1:34:31
John C Dvorak: no, that's not
for me to read. He's, he's,
1:34:33
that's a reference to the fact
that it's extremely long note.
1:34:36
And I hate long notes,
1:34:38
Adam Curry: so that means I have
to read it. Yeah. All right.
1:34:42
Thank you to all the producers
that support this. By the
1:34:45
John C Dvorak: way, I should
mention just just as a
1:34:49
historically, he sends in kind
of short and often short notes,
1:34:53
yes, every once in a while, no
note, and he makes a little
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stanza with no note. Money,
these little graphic and then
1:35:02
sometimes reasonable notes. And
I think he's finally built up.
1:35:07
He's been enough credit to do as
long a note as he wants, and
1:35:10
this is one of them. So that's
not so I'm not objecting to I
1:35:14
will
1:35:14
Adam Curry: come to his house
and wash his car. Thank you to
1:35:19
all the producers that support.
1:35:20
John C Dvorak: By the way, his
car is a rolls. It's got to be
1:35:22
his must be, including
1:35:24
Adam Curry: the professional
insight from so many regions and
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professions and the time talent
and treasure that make this a
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unique source of insight into
advertisers, safe products and
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messages and how advertisers use
different outlets to reach
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different audiences. The Cote
d'Ivoire Consulting Group is
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extremely effective in helping
identify targeted audience just
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by sharing the message sources.
Like many Americans, I have
1:35:46
naturalized US citizen, family
and friends. In my extensive
1:35:49
travel outside the US over the
past few months, garnered one
1:35:53
question from both groups,
what's going on? Naturally, I
1:35:58
can hear him saying it that way
too. Naturalized citizens have a
1:36:02
keen perspective of politicized
governments. As many came to the
1:36:05
US to leave politicized
countries, they are unhappy that
1:36:09
their work to be US citizens is
being shortcut for political
1:36:13
purposes. They reinforce the US.
Educational System Programming
1:36:17
towards social agenda rather
than the three R's. Education is
1:36:21
creating a less valuable citizen
and workforce, and they include
1:36:24
their own children as victims as
they seek to be normal Americans
1:36:29
and seek private education when
possible. Many countries, this
1:36:32
is important stuff that he's
saying here. This is good. Many
1:36:35
countries I travel to have
polarized political environments
1:36:38
where violence overcomes
civility in political discourse.
1:36:42
International contacts ask me if
the US is the ideal place to
1:36:46
send their children to be
educated and gain citizenship.
1:36:49
They see the leading global
economy and military superpower
1:36:52
moving towards a Caligula like
society like the one they left.
1:36:57
Take note, people, because where
are we going to escape to the
1:37:02
two wars underway have far
greater impact than seems to
1:37:05
garner attention in the US.
Global trade is more affected
1:37:08
outside the US. Covid taught us
the term supply chain issues to
1:37:12
justify delays and higher costs,
no agenda listeners already know
1:37:16
grain exports from Ukraine,
Russia to Africa is causing
1:37:19
severe issues and starvation.
China is a leading exporter of
1:37:24
goods to the Suez Canal and is
severely impacted by the Houthi
1:37:27
Red Sea attacks of goods to the
Suez Canal and is severely
1:37:31
impacted by the Houthi Red Sea
attacks the defense industrial
1:37:35
base, which he says, dib of non
US actors are more aggressive
1:37:39
than the often maligned us, dib
participants, drone and missile
1:37:44
manufacturing outside the US is
far beyond us capability, and
1:37:48
while less sophisticated, using
dos level attacks will overwhelm
1:37:53
so called Iron Dome defenses,
and both sides know it.
1:37:58
Hezbollah has 150,000 missiles
AI, as in actual intelligence.
1:38:04
Ooh, nice. Sees non US, defense
industrial base pushing a more
1:38:08
aggressive agenda than us. Dibs,
unlike us, moral values these
1:38:13
countries do not value of lives
as Americans us, military is
1:38:18
working to learn what others are
experiencing and working to
1:38:21
adapt to these wars, but our
political leaders remain
1:38:24
oblivious to the reality of
these wars. How much leadership?
1:38:29
How much will leadership cause
US citizens to suffer, either to
1:38:33
prepare for war, or suffer
before surrender? If you believe
1:38:37
history rhymes, the Treaty of
Versailles, a concise history by
1:38:41
Nyberg. It's about 100 pages. Is
an interesting book of poetry
1:38:46
for today's events. No jingles,
no karma. And then he parked his
1:38:52
roles as a good note, something
to listen to, because, you know
1:38:58
he's saying, He's saying real
stuff. Here you should have, you
1:39:00
should do a podcast.
1:39:03
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, he
does one. I'm
1:39:06
Adam Curry: gonna, I'm gonna
give him ours. He just did one.
1:39:08
I'm gonna give
1:39:10
Unknown: him a hang out.
1:39:13
Mike, standby, 3333 33
rubbilizer
1:39:19
Adam Curry: out there you go.
Rubbilizer, jingle for
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astronomers of Dog Patch and
Lois lobovia, thank you, as
1:39:24
always, for coming in to save
our month
1:39:29
John C Dvorak: a Zarin Dental in
Port Townsend, Washington, cute
1:39:34
little town, if ever there was
530 if I add up other donations,
1:39:40
I should be at night in the
night area. Can I just be night
1:39:45
Z, uh or Nido? Do I need a weird
name? Night z is perfect, yeah.
1:39:51
Night Z. Listening to you two
keeps me sane. And are you're
1:39:57
the best five to six hours of my
week. Huh? I'm hitting as many
1:40:02
people in the mouth as I can.
1:40:04
Adam Curry: Well, beautiful.
Thank you, and you, Aaron will
1:40:08
be night Z later today, Dame,
foreign lady before dakula,
1:40:14
Georgia. Dacula, dekula. Dacula,
470 and one cent, dear Johan and
1:40:23
Adam. It says, Here it says,
Johan, Johan. Yeah. Hello,
1:40:26
Johan. ITM gentlemen. Very
pleased to enclose a check to
1:40:29
you for 470 and one cent. This
amount brings me not only an
1:40:33
executive producership For my
76th birthday on September 2,
1:40:38
but takes me to the next tier of
damehood, whatever level comes
1:40:41
after Baroness, which is what is
after Baroness, Viscountess,
1:40:45
Viscountess, maybe I have also
recently moved and would like to
1:40:49
request a change to my
protectorate, if it pleases the
1:40:52
peerage committee. I would like
the protectorate of Old Town,
1:40:55
Grayson, in northeast Georgia.
We have checked it's all good.
1:40:59
Thank you both for what you
continue to do? No jingles, just
1:41:01
some r2, d2, karma for all the
producers. Cheers, Dame,
1:41:05
foreign, Lady before and what
does she say here at the bottom,
1:41:10
he says, PS, John, I typed this
for easier reading. Love you
1:41:13
both.
1:41:16
Unknown: You've got karma.
1:41:22
John C Dvorak: T, see all these
complaints of mine always pay
1:41:25
off with people, yeah, big time
making big payment. Big payoff.
1:41:30
Big payoff, payoff. Mark, we
have, was it? Mark, yeah. Mark,
1:41:38
goall, yeah, in Guelph, Ontario,
Canada, is it Guelph? Do we know
1:41:44
how to pronounce this? Yes,
Guelph. Sounds good to me.
1:41:47
Guelph. So could be Guelph 350
58 No, no, no, nothing. So he
1:41:51
gets a double up, karma. Yeah,
1:41:52
Adam Curry: he does indeed.
1:41:53
Unknown: You've got
1:41:56
Adam Curry: karma. Kathy Knight
is in Mesa, Arizona, the 333 dot
1:42:01
33 our last executive producer
for the show. ITM I appreciate
1:42:04
you too so much. I'm chipping in
to do my part so you can
1:42:08
continue providing us with the
best podcast in the universe.
1:42:11
Thank you for your courage. No
jingles, no karma. Sincerely.
1:42:15
Kathy Knight, Thank you, Kathy
Knight, we appreciate it. And
1:42:18
John C Dvorak: speaking of the
devil, rob the constitutional
1:42:20
lawyer in spring branch Texas
comes in with two $11.23 rob the
1:42:29
constitutional lawyer here says,
Happy Birthday, Adam. Oh, thank
1:42:34
you as a sex, sex a generic
1:42:39
Adam Curry: sex, sex sex a
generic Yes,
1:42:42
John C Dvorak: I'd have to look,
look into that. I'm
1:42:44
Adam Curry: chicken wing. Maybe
he's
1:42:45
John C Dvorak: talking about you
being sexy. Yes, you now qualify
1:42:49
for free legal advice at many
Elder Law clinics, but stay
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young. Visit Rob dot lawyer
instead. Yes, that's the URL,
1:43:01
Rob dot lawyer, we fight for you
and Gitmo nation. And
1:43:07
Adam Curry: he, he asked me
privately, since it didn't fit
1:43:10
in the message, if I could add
his usual open up Adam curry
1:43:15
jingle and karma to ward off
Jack Smith and his overzealous
1:43:19
ilk. Mr. Adam curry
1:43:26
Unknown: now you've got karma.
1:43:30
Adam Curry: Eli, the coffee guy
is next. We're in his executive
1:43:32
or Associate Executive producers
here. He's from bensonville,
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John C Dvorak: I will say that
we have one more we do Associate
1:46:01
Executive Producer, because he
came in as Australian dollary
1:46:05
dues, which is well over $200
Okay. Thomas Weaver, with a I
1:46:12
doing this reluctantly, because
of the length of the note, yes.
1:46:16
But Thomas Weaver from
Blackwall, New South Wales,
1:46:20
comes in, and the numbers
probably around 210, I'm
1:46:25
guessing, yeah, always good to
first time donation. So a
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deuceing would be a wonderful
thank you. You've been deduced
1:46:32
also a birthday. Birthday shout
out for myself. He's got that
1:46:36
we're on. You're on the list. I
first came across you via
1:46:39
hearing Adam just over a year
ago on the tftc with Marty bent.
1:46:47
Adam Curry: Marty bent, he's,
he's got a huge podcast, and
1:46:50
he's my friend
1:46:52
John C Dvorak: who, who's, I
don't know anything about this.
1:46:54
Oh,
1:46:54
Adam Curry: Marty bent is in
Austin. It's the tftc podcast.
1:46:59
He used to be in finance and
finance, and he left finance and
1:47:05
went into Bitcoin mining and all
he's a it. He is a cool dude.
1:47:11
He, I think he has now two young
kids moved from Florida. Was he
1:47:16
in Florida? No, he's in
Pennsylvania. I think was in
1:47:19
Philly. Moved to Austin a couple
years we've had dinner with him
1:47:23
and his wife. Lovely couple. A
young, young, John Young, half
1:47:26
our age, well my age. Thomas
1:47:29
John C Dvorak: Weaver continues.
So here I am swapping some of my
1:47:33
Aussie dollar dollary dues for
your American cookbooks, as
1:47:38
Marty would say. And let me tell
you, the Australia to USD
1:47:43
turnaround is terrible. We are
truly the land down under, yes,
1:47:48
but on the plus side, I'm a
regenerative farm worker, and
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I've had the pleasure to have
met Texas slim. Oh, there you
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go, in person and converse with
him. Get grass finished, meats
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as at will, and listen to the
best podcast in the universe.
1:48:05
Well, whilst on my daily chores
of feeding the animals, you
1:48:09
know, Texas slim was on some,
some TV show recently I saw him.
1:48:13
Oh yeah, he
1:48:14
Adam Curry: gets around. He's
trying to very, very
1:48:16
John C Dvorak: skinny guy with a
big Texas hat, you
1:48:19
Adam Curry: know, I told him,
because he would do interviews
1:48:22
and he put on a baseball cap, I
said, bro, no, you need to
1:48:26
always have the hat on when
you're doing an interview.
1:48:29
Otherwise, he's just a skinny
dude with a hat. Now you're
1:48:32
Texas slim. You see, Texas Slim
is perfect. He gets around well,
1:48:37
he took your advice, yes, and
he's trying to, he's trying
1:48:39
John C Dvorak: to very erudite.
He's character. He
1:48:43
Adam Curry: is erudite is the
correct word. And
1:48:46
John C Dvorak: I won't anyway,
continuing, and I won't use this
1:48:49
donation to shamelessly plug the
business I work for. No instead,
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I will plug my smoking hot
girlfriend's business meals for
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mamas, an amazing ready made
meal delivery service for
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partners. It's utilizing organic
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meats, even some from our farm,
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and a delicious assortment of
healthier snack options as well,
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delivered fresh throughout New
South Wales. Act and now act,
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act a CT and now Queensland
1:49:20
Adam Curry: act is sent Central,
uh, yeah, something, yeah,
1:49:24
John C Dvorak: somewhere, sorry,
everyone only in Australia, go
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to meals. That
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Adam Curry: should be a four. I
think, I think he mistyped that
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four mamas, not, not dollar
sign. Meals, number four mamas,
1:49:37
John C Dvorak: I think you're
probably right. Meals,
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mamas.com.au, for delivering
more as for you, Adam and John,
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a grass finished steak straight
from the farm and a brilliant
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Aussie Shiraz or cap Sauvignon
for John, two will be here
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waiting for you if you ever
decide to visit. Thanks again
1:49:56
for all the stellar work you
guys do. Thomas, well, I
1:49:59
Adam Curry: hear you guys. We'll
see. Even be our 51st state so
1:50:02
it'll be easy. You know, we
pretty much, we pretty much own
1:50:05
them now, don't we, with our,
what was the military
1:50:08
John C Dvorak: boys there? Oh
1:50:09
Adam Curry: yeah, we take all
over. Take it over. Hey, that's
1:50:12
anyway, that's our,
1:50:13
John C Dvorak: that's our group
of, uh, well wishers and
1:50:15
producers, Associate Executive
and executive producers for show
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1680 and thank
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Adam Curry: you again to
everyone else who came in with
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with donations and notes. We
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for the donations and sometimes
a note, depending on what's in
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it in our second segment. And of
course, thanks to everyone who
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you for producing 1690
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Unknown: our formula is this, we
go out. We hit people in the
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mouth, shut
1:50:54
Adam Curry: up. Mistakenly says
1680 did I say 1680 I meant 1690
1:51:03
No. I said 600. Wow, yeah. Well,
that's why I do all the
1:51:08
production,
1:51:09
John C Dvorak: yes, right? So I
could screw it, so I could screw
1:51:12
it up,
1:51:13
Adam Curry: which I do from time
to time. It does happen. All
1:51:18
right, I said we got lots of
clips, so lay it on now, let's
1:51:21
see
1:51:21
John C Dvorak: what we got. You
want some funny clips? You want
1:51:23
to give me some funny clips?
Well, let's, well,
1:51:27
Adam Curry: oh, well, I don't
have any funny clips. He said,
1:51:29
Oh, okay. Let's
1:51:31
John C Dvorak: talk a little bit
about, let's catch up with the
1:51:34
Middle East with an update. This
is, I can do a clip blitz Middle
1:51:39
Adam Curry: East. Really, it's
everyone's just okay. Look,
1:51:41
they're killing each other over
there. Here's a good one. Here's
1:51:43
John C Dvorak: a good one. Did
you know this was going on to
1:51:46
sag after strike?
1:51:49
Adam Curry: Wait, I thought we
already had a SAG after strike.
1:51:52
Oh,
1:51:53
John C Dvorak: how wrong you
are. There's still another one.
1:51:55
They just keep coming. The
1:51:56
Unknown: Video Game actors have
remained on strike since July.
1:51:59
This follows months of
negotiations with major gaming
1:52:02
companies. The strike aims to
ensure equal protection for
1:52:06
union voice actors and motion
capture performers against what
1:52:10
they say is unregulated use of
artificial intelligence.
1:52:14
Kristina Corona reports from
Southern California.
1:52:18
We're here in the city of
Burbank outside Warner Brothers
1:52:20
Studios, where members of sag
aktra are picketing as part of
1:52:23
their strike against major video
game studios.
1:52:32
The video game companies are
rightly isolated. When you look
1:52:36
at the studios, the streamers,
the record labels, we've been
1:52:40
able to achieve the necessary
protections for our members with
1:52:44
all of those companies, and yet,
for some reason, the video game
1:52:46
companies refuse to make the
same fair deal.
1:52:49
Several video game actors and
voice actors said they are
1:52:52
striking for fair contracts,
primarily to oppose unregulated
1:52:56
use of artificial intelligence,
1:52:59
something where we know that we
have something in writing, that
1:53:03
when we go into one session,
that doesn't mean they can just
1:53:06
reuse, digitally reproduce our
voice for future needs. It's
1:53:11
ensuring that we can still do
what we love to do for people
1:53:15
and moving forward, and we're
not phased out by robots.
1:53:18
Voice Actor Sam kwasman
mentioned many actors have
1:53:21
worked their entire career for
only a modest return.
1:53:25
We're fighting for our lives.
Basically, we spend all this
1:53:28
time learning our lives and
taking acting lessons, singing
1:53:32
lessons, dancing. I mean, you
train for your career and then
1:53:36
you wind up with a couple 100
bucks
1:53:38
Adam Curry: start a podcast,
listen. I have a I have a
1:53:41
question, guys. So the nanny
spent all this time setting up
1:53:46
this. No, AI for what I thought
was sag after, but they didn't
1:53:49
think to include the video game
industry. Yeah,
1:53:53
John C Dvorak: seems so, because
way I'm in close the hatch, huh?
1:53:58
Adam Curry: And are all act is,
are we going to see Angelina
1:54:01
Jolie go on strike for the video
game actors? Are they lesser
1:54:04
than do they not count, even
though their industry is 10
1:54:08
times as big as the movie
industry? Yeah, that's
1:54:11
John C Dvorak: the irony. Will
they go on irony is, the
1:54:13
industry is huge compared to the
film entertainment side of it.
1:54:20
So
1:54:21
Adam Curry: will they go on
strike? These scabs? Are this
1:54:23
going to continue to work? They
don't care about their brothers
1:54:25
and sisters, who also had to
learn how to act and sing and
1:54:29
read lines and whatever else
they were doing.
1:54:32
John C Dvorak: I think you can
figure it out. No one
1:54:35
Unknown: voice actor raised
concerns the AI is costing them
1:54:38
jobs as AI generated voices can
be manipulated to say
1:54:42
inappropriate or offensive
things, which then are falsely
1:54:45
attributed to them causing
issues with their agencies and
1:54:49
the
1:54:49
actors over here. Like, no,
wait, that was not me. Someone
1:54:52
cloned my voice through some
program and like, I would never
1:54:56
say any of this stuff, so the AI
protections. Are definitely what
1:55:01
is worth fighting for more
livelihoods.
1:55:04
AI is not coming. It's already
here.
1:55:08
Adam Curry: I have never heard
that guy in a video game,
1:55:12
John C Dvorak: and he might be a
voice guy that you know changes
1:55:15
his voice. Well,
1:55:16
Adam Curry: I will tell you
right now, if AI could take over
1:55:20
this podcast, and we could be on
the beach chilling like Bob
1:55:23
Dylan, I'm all in, but it can't,
can't it, can't it can't even
1:55:27
count the R's in strawberry.
1:55:32
John C Dvorak: The thing that's
kind of interesting when you
1:55:34
think about this particular
complaint is Mel Blanc. Oh, Mel
1:55:40
Blanc was a notorious prick that
did all the voices for every
1:55:46
character in Warner Brothers
cartoons. He did Bugs Bunny,
1:55:49
right? He did Porky Pig. He did
all the character, every
1:55:53
character, in fact, it was all
the vocalizations and all the
1:55:57
commercials and all the comic
cartoons, yes, that Warner
1:56:01
Brothers came out with, and he
it was the voice by Mel Blanc.
1:56:05
And Mel Blanc would make a fuss,
according to the rumors, that
1:56:12
Who knew he'd make a huge fuss
if they brought in one single
1:56:17
guy to do one single voice in
any of the cartoons he was
1:56:20
involved in, which was all of
Warner Brothers cartoons, all
1:56:23
the Bugs Bunny, all the Daffy
Duck, all that stuff.
1:56:26
Adam Curry: Are you sure he did
Elmer Fudd? Because people are
1:56:29
saying that's not true. I
1:56:30
John C Dvorak: believe so. He
had. He was a man of one of
1:56:34
these I run in, ran into one of
these guys I was doing when I
1:56:38
was doing a radio show. I ran
into the guy who took over
1:56:41
tigger's voice, which Tigger
used to be done by Paul Winchell
1:56:47
in the Winnie the Pooh series.
And Tigger was done by Paul
1:56:51
Winchell. He was the one who
developed the voice. And Paul
1:56:54
Winchell died, and they were
still doing these Winnie the
1:56:57
Pooh movies. And this guy who
was on the show, he was a voice
1:57:00
guy, and he took over. And I
didn't know anything that this
1:57:05
even happened, and he did a
bunch of voices for me,
1:57:07
including Tigger. And he sounded
he was one of those guys who
1:57:11
could just mimic voices like,
you know, like an impressionist,
1:57:15
or even better, and he could do,
he's had about 12 or 13 very
1:57:21
distinctive voices that he could
do, but Tigger was one of them.
1:57:24
And
1:57:26
Adam Curry: I could be wrong
about breaking, breaking news,
1:57:29
breaking news, breaking Steve
Webb og godcaster Text me. We
1:57:34
text as a voice actor. I can
confirm Mel Blanc, blank did
1:57:40
Elmer Fudd. Doesn't mean it is
voice. He might have just done
1:57:43
it, but okay, he did Elmer Fudd.
1:57:47
John C Dvorak: He did all the
voices and Warner Brothers
1:57:49
cartoons. If you look at because
they give credit on there,
1:57:51
there's only one guy's name,
but, yes, but So, so what was
1:57:58
the difference between, you
know, AI doing some voices, or
1:58:01
for these cartoons, or one guy
doing all the voices, not
1:58:06
letting anybody else work.
Where's the strike then? I mean,
1:58:09
it seems to me that that was
unfair.
1:58:13
Adam Curry: By the way, okay, by
the way, no, this is good.
1:58:18
Leanne Webb sent me an email.
She is the much better half of
1:58:23
Steve Webb regarding John Tesh,
1:58:28
John C Dvorak: I have wondered
what happened to John Tesh.
1:58:30
Well,
1:58:31
Adam Curry: couple years ago she
saw him at the coach house. Is
1:58:34
in Florida, no Arizona. I think
he's surviving a very rare form
1:58:38
of cancer, but still performing.
He performed, of course, on
1:58:42
Entertainment Tonight with Mary
Hart. He's still around. And
1:58:45
then I got a note from the boys
from Mercy Me are who are
1:58:50
knights at this point, and they
had some John Tesh trivia. Did
1:58:55
you know that he wrote the NBA
theme song?
1:59:00
John C Dvorak: No, I did not
know that. That's pretty that's
1:59:03
trivia. That is that stream
trivia News
1:59:05
Adam Curry: You Can Use right
1:59:06
John C Dvorak: there. Yes,
that's a lifetime of that
1:59:09
Adam Curry: you can retire. You
can retire on something that was
1:59:12
like Paul
1:59:12
John C Dvorak: Anka when he
wrote, he wrote the Johnny
1:59:15
Carson I show, yep, Tonight Show
theme. And since the show went
1:59:19
up for 30 years, yeah, he was
just gold. You know, you just
1:59:23
make money every show. But
1:59:25
Adam Curry: Can you hum the NBA
theme song? No, I cannot,
1:59:28
neither. And and they and so the
Mercy boys, Mercy Me. Boys said
1:59:32
that they met him on a cruise.
They were performing on a
1:59:35
cruise, and they said, you and
John should do a no agenda
1:59:38
cruise.
1:59:39
John C Dvorak: Yes, that's that.
Let me look on my list of things
1:59:42
I want to do.
1:59:44
Adam Curry: I can hear Horowitz
already going, yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:59:47
yeah, yeah, let's do a cruise.
1:59:49
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Oh,
there it is. Is that number? Oh,
1:59:53
it's been dexed out. No, it
doesn't seem to be. No, it's
1:59:56
not, yeah, I
1:59:57
Adam Curry: have a feeling it's
not in the cards a cruise. Ruse,
2:00:00
oh, boy. And then someone else
emailed me saying, Hey, we
2:00:03
should do a no agenda con, you
know, like, which we do that
2:00:07
twice a week. No, no agenda con,
like, a big where everyone, all
2:00:11
producers from all over the
world, can come in and hang out
2:00:15
together, the world's largest
meetup. And I thought about, I
2:00:19
said, I think this has popped up
in the past, and the reason why
2:00:23
we always say no is because
people always want the same
2:00:27
thing, and then you can do a
live show on stage. Yeah, and
2:00:34
like no, we though it would be
great. Everyone could hang out
2:00:37
together, have a drink. But what
are we gonna do? You know, we
2:00:40
have, there's no tricks, there's
no, uh, no act. There's nothing
2:00:44
with, you know, there's we need
to do sessions.
2:00:47
John C Dvorak: We'd have to work
on a on a comedy act, a routine
2:00:53
like Rowan and Martin laugh in
routine.
2:00:57
Adam Curry: Who's on First? It's
2:00:59
John C Dvorak: not again, not in
the cards. No, it's, is that you
2:01:03
what we're what we've been
doing, is what we're doing, and
2:01:05
that's about it. You know? We
don't have, we have a microphone
2:01:08
company coming.
2:01:11
Adam Curry: I'm not allowed to
promote it anymore, you know?
2:01:13
And you know
2:01:13
John C Dvorak: how many we have
to hold off on promotion until
2:01:16
we actually get the microphones
done. And then we have, what is
2:01:20
there anything else that we
gonna do down the side? Not
2:01:23
really, I
2:01:23
Adam Curry: think. No, that's
about it. We gotta. I
2:01:26
John C Dvorak: mean, I have the
publishing company and, yeah,
2:01:29
you've got a bunch of other
podcasts, and podcasting 2.0
2:01:32
that keeps you busy. We're doing
work. I mean, we don't, but
2:01:35
we're not doing a cruise and
we're not doing a podcast
2:01:38
Adam Curry: 2.0 is zero income.
That's just to keep this show
2:01:42
going. I'm doing it for the
show. And anyone else who wants
2:01:46
to do a show, well,
2:01:47
John C Dvorak: it's actually
very philanthropic. That's what
2:01:50
it is.
2:01:51
Adam Curry: Yes, where's my
Nobel Peace Prize?
2:01:54
John C Dvorak: Do get it?
2:01:56
Adam Curry: Sure. Well, if Obama
could get one. So we're still
2:02:01
awaiting the return of the
astronauts on that failed Boeing
2:02:07
Starliner. Thing is that the
Starliner, yeah, was the
2:02:10
Starliner. You
2:02:11
John C Dvorak: know, I have a
clip I want to play before you
2:02:13
get to that which has got, this
is similar. This is, this is
2:02:17
like a thing that makes me
cringe. This is the Space X,
2:02:22
flip, and it is the private
thing they're going to do. And
2:02:26
you know, you know, Elon has not
gone up in the space yet that I
2:02:30
know he's smart, because it's
and I think, by the way, this is
2:02:35
just, I don't know if it's a red
book prediction, but we've lost
2:02:39
astronauts when we had the
billions of dollars. And, you
2:02:42
know, you send them up and
something goes wrong, and it
2:02:45
kills these guys, although
2:02:46
Adam Curry: they happen when
they're all alive in different
2:02:48
places in the country. But,
yeah,
2:02:49
John C Dvorak: well, that could
be the one that came in and the
2:02:53
tiles were falling off the
bottom, and the thing blew up,
2:02:56
and everyone got to see it, and
the Challenger went up and they
2:02:58
blew up. I mean, people. And
then the guys who sat on the on
2:03:02
the launch pad, they burned up
in the pit. Yeah, three of them.
2:03:07
That was bad. And, of course,
that's suspicious that one. But
2:03:10
the something's gonna happen on
one of these things, and it's
2:03:14
gonna be, it's gonna really
destroy
2:03:17
Adam Curry: in the business.
It's gonna be a day wrecker.
2:03:21
John C Dvorak: It's gonna
destroy, yes, I agree. It's
2:03:23
gonna end the business a day
record. But this one, this
2:03:26
particular one, this is they're
gonna send up people higher than
2:03:30
ever before, maybe through a
radiation belt. I'm not even
2:03:34
sure, belts really. We're gonna
make them go outside and roam
2:03:39
around. I mean, this does not
sound like a good thing. Space
2:03:42
Unknown: X's historical
Aristotle mission is delayed
2:03:44
once again, this time it's
because of bad weather. Four
2:03:48
private astronauts were set to
be launched into space this
2:03:51
morning, but SpaceX said bad
offshore weather is predicted in
2:03:55
the area where the crew will
eventually splash down at the
2:03:58
end of the mission. During the
mission, SpaceX plans to conduct
2:04:02
the first ever private spacewalk
as well as gather data from
2:04:06
dozens of experiments. The
mission commander said the crew
2:04:09
must be absolutely sure of
reentry weather before
2:04:13
launching. That's because the
supplies they are carrying are
2:04:16
limited. The mission had already
been postponed from yesterday
2:04:19
after engineers discovered a
helium leak in one of the
2:04:22
rockets components.
2:04:24
Adam Curry: Oh, he's also got a
helium leak.
2:04:29
Unknown: Yeah, helium
2:04:32
Adam Curry: Yeah. I'm all for
sending up satellites, you know,
2:04:35
it's fine, but yeah, going up
into space, sure, yeah, KLM has
2:04:42
just enough. So we have the
Boeing astronauts on the
2:04:45
International Space Station.
They won't come back until
2:04:48
February. Is now reported, and
they're going to send their
2:04:51
Boeing capsule back down. Watch
that thing you want to take over
2:04:55
under on this where there's that
thing like explodes on the way
2:04:58
down, or will it? Be safe.
2:05:00
John C Dvorak: I'm like, Oh,
well, that's not really an over
2:05:03
and under. And over and under
has a plus or minus, either
2:05:05
gonna blow up or not. Well, I
would, I would say it's gonna
2:05:10
come back. Okay?
2:05:11
Adam Curry: I think so too, not
that I'd risk my life on it.
2:05:15
Well,
2:05:15
John C Dvorak: that's why
they're not risking their life
2:05:17
on it, because the fact that
you'd even discuss it as blowing
2:05:21
up doesn't seem very not
2:05:24
Adam Curry: great, not great. So
KLM has now said they are
2:05:29
switching from Boeing to Airbus,
and KLM is, you know, Air
2:05:35
France, that's a big order.
They're losing. Airbus is
2:05:42
cleaner, quieter, more
economical, and doesn't have the
2:05:46
doors popping off. That was not
in the press release, but I'm
2:05:49
just going to add that. And in
China, we have another
2:05:54
competitor doing much better
than Boeing, is
2:05:58
Unknown: Air China. And China
Southern Airlines will become
2:06:01
the second and third Chinese
carriers to fly China's
2:06:04
homegrown c9 online passenger
jet. The two carriers took
2:06:08
delivery of the aircraft at
Chinese planemaker Comac space
2:06:12
in Shanghai. These
2:06:14
are the eighth and ninth planes
that Comac has delivered China.
2:06:17
Eastern Airlines has already
been flying seven of these
2:06:19
aircraft
2:06:20
Adam Curry: since May last year.
There you go.
2:06:23
John C Dvorak: No, what's a? C,
919,
2:06:25
Adam Curry: it looks like a 737
I think it's going to be a
2:06:28
competitor that big. Oh, yeah,
it's, it's a dupe. It's a it's a
2:06:32
dupe of the 737
2:06:35
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they look
nice. The commax. C9, 19, they
2:06:39
look nice. It looks like a 737,
you're right. It probably is a
2:06:42
copy of an old one. It's a
2:06:44
Adam Curry: dupe. It's a dupe.
It's a dupe. Yes, now I'm not
2:06:48
sure if this was a Boeing
aircraft, so I have not received
2:06:51
so
2:06:51
John C Dvorak: we're doomed once
the Chinese get into this. This
2:06:55
Adam Curry: is a very sad thing
that took place. People don't
2:06:58
really this could be a
maintenance issue. It could be
2:07:01
an aircraft issue. Again. I
don't know if it was Boeing or
2:07:04
Airbus, but this is sad thing
that happened this
2:07:07
Unknown: morning. Delta Airlines
searching for answers after two
2:07:10
employees were killed on the job
inside the airlines maintenance
2:07:14
facility on the Atlanta airport
grounds. A third worker is being
2:07:18
treated for serious injuries.
1775
2:07:21
Mayor Jackson, Junior Boulevard,
Delta, TLC, three
2:07:25
emergency crews rushing to the
Delta wheel and Brake Shop early
2:07:28
Tuesday morning. The airline
says employees were working on a
2:07:31
tire when the wheel component
suddenly ruptured. Delta
2:07:35
describing it as a heartbreaking
accident, it killed 58 year old
2:07:39
Merkel Marwick and 37 year old
Luis Aldo Rondo, it
2:07:43
was away from the main airplanes
had this high pressure, big
2:07:46
piece of metal, big piece of
rubber, and if it fails, for
2:07:49
some reason catastrophically,
can cause damage and injury to
2:07:53
people nearby.
2:07:54
A delta employee describing the
chilling scene to first
2:07:57
responders, saying, quote, I
walked toward where the
2:08:00
explosion occurred, and saw a
body lying face down, not
2:08:03
moving, with blood all around
the
2:08:06
accident. Investigators will
probably look at the two metal
2:08:09
rims around that tire and look
for some sort of a fatigue
2:08:13
failure. Was that airplane old?
Was that tire old? Or was it
2:08:17
somehow, some part of the way
that the tire was put together
2:08:20
that caused this mishap.
2:08:21
Adam Curry: Doesn't Delta, Delta
fly Boeing's,
2:08:26
John C Dvorak: yeah, but this is
probably, this is component.
2:08:31
It's like, it's like, certain
trucks have these types of
2:08:33
tires.
2:08:33
Adam Curry: They're still blame
Boeing.
2:08:36
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah. Well,
that's the idea, blame them.
2:08:38
Yeah. Sorry about Boeing's got
issues. I see there's a comeback
2:08:45
919 there's a 929 oh, so they're
building big jets. Yeah, um, I'd
2:08:51
probably honeywell's involved
with them. Oh, really, Americans
2:08:55
have, you know, help
2:08:56
Adam Curry: really,
2:08:57
John C Dvorak: yeah, but
2:08:58
Adam Curry: probably fly it. I
wouldn't, I'm not too afraid. I
2:09:03
wouldn't go, Well, go on a
spaceship, but
2:09:08
John C Dvorak: I'm taking a
rocket, here's a rocket, and
2:09:11
shoot it up there, and I'll be
on it and floating around for a
2:09:14
few minutes.
2:09:14
Adam Curry: This is a story
trending everywhere. It's not
2:09:17
rage, it's crazy. It's no good
California. I mean, it's just
2:09:21
California story so, but it was
doing the rounds, so we might as
2:09:26
well discuss it, since one of us
is in California
2:09:29
Unknown: now, to a live look at
the state capitol. Right now,
2:09:31
California lawmakers have about
three days to pass new laws for
2:09:35
the year. The deadline is
Saturday, at midnight. Lawmakers
2:09:38
today saying Governor Newsom a
bill that would allow
2:09:40
undocumented people to apply for
the state's first time home
2:09:43
buyers program. That program has
no money for the foreseeable
2:09:47
future, but that didn't stop
lawmakers in the state assembly
2:09:50
from approving it in a 45 to 15
party line vote, the proposal
2:09:54
specifically prohibits the
California Housing Finance
2:09:57
Authority from rejecting a
person's actions. Application
2:10:00
based on their immigration
status. The bill made national
2:10:03
headlines as California is
facing a housing crisis with
2:10:06
some of the highest costs in the
nation to own a home, we
2:10:09
need to remind ourselves that we
are a nation of immigrants, and
2:10:13
here in our state, we remind
ourselves all the time of the
2:10:17
value of those who are
continuing to come here and to
2:10:21
make our economy better. So for
those who are paying their
2:10:24
taxes, who are doing things
right, who have a good credit
2:10:28
score and who can qualify for a
loan, we are saying that we want
2:10:32
you to set roots here in our
great state. If you qualify,
2:10:37
Governor Newsom will have until
September 30 to sign or veto
2:10:40
this bill.
2:10:41
John C Dvorak: Apparently,
that's not the that's not the
2:10:43
way the story is told on this
clip. Oh,
2:10:47
Adam Curry: hold on. Can I just
say something that Governor
2:10:50
Abbott of Texas, he is now
commissioned signs to be put up
2:10:55
in Mexico that says, free homes
that way. Point him towards the
2:10:59
north.
2:11:01
John C Dvorak: Yes. Smart move
free homes in California. Is the
2:11:04
clip free?
2:11:05
Adam Curry: Oh, is that
literally the clip name? Oh, I
2:11:07
see a
2:11:08
Unknown: California proposal
could make illegal immigrants
2:11:11
eligible for housing aid. People
could get up to $150,000 in
2:11:15
loans to help buy a home paid
for by the state entities. David
2:11:20
lamb reports,
2:11:21
a new proposal would expand home
buying loans to illegal
2:11:25
immigrants. On Tuesday, the
Senate passed a bill in a 25 to
2:11:29
14 vote, California's home
purchase assistance program
2:11:32
would cover up to a 20% down
payment or closing costs capped
2:11:37
at $150,000 it's called Assembly
Bill 1840 which was introduced
2:11:42
by Assemblyman Joaquin arumbula,
and it prevents the state's home
2:11:47
purchase assistance program from
disqualifying an applicant based
2:11:51
on their immigration status.
Applicants would need to be
2:11:54
first time home buyers, and at
least one borrower needs to be a
2:11:58
first generation home buyer,
such as someone whose parents
2:12:01
don't own a home, or they've
been through foster care, the
2:12:05
homebuyer would have to repay
the down payment loan, plus a
2:12:08
portion of the profits if the
house is sold later on. So
2:12:11
that's the increased value of
the home. Now, as of Wednesday,
2:12:15
it's in the assembly before
going to Governor Gavin Newsom's
2:12:18
desk. Well, it
2:12:19
Adam Curry: wasn't that
different?
2:12:22
John C Dvorak: Well, they
emphasize the fact that this for
2:12:24
illegal immigrants, mainly,
2:12:27
Adam Curry: yes, well, of
course, that's what California
2:12:29
is all about. It's to improve
your economy now so that so 20%
2:12:34
John C Dvorak: 150,000 so much
of 2008 written all over it
2:12:37
does.
2:12:38
Adam Curry: That's a $750,000
home, which, at today's interest
2:12:43
rates, pretty steep price,
2:12:49
John C Dvorak: you know? Yeah,
it might not be workable. You
2:12:53
mean, but Newsom, if he's smart,
he'll veto it so he can keep on
2:12:57
his you know, because otherwise
he's going to get everything
2:13:00
Newsom does from now on is
assuming that Trump's going to
2:13:04
be president, and he has to be
very careful that he's not going
2:13:07
to have this stuff thrown in his
face. Hey, but
2:13:09
Adam Curry: wait a minute, this
would work great for your favela
2:13:12
idea. Free favelas. You can get
a down payment on a favela.
2:13:21
John C Dvorak: This idea of the
favela itself is self free. It's
2:13:25
free,
2:13:25
Adam Curry: it's free, free. I
love that idea. Well, let's
2:13:31
continue to stay in California
with the cleanup operation just
2:13:35
in time for the Olympics, just
in time for the 2020, 2028,
2:13:39
election. This is rousting the
homeless. We're back
2:13:42
Unknown: now with our homeless
in America series. Earlier this
2:13:45
summer, the US Supreme Court
ruled that cities can find or
2:13:47
even jail people for sleeping
outside. Seen as Nick watt went
2:13:50
to San Francisco, a city with a
notorious homeless problem,
2:13:54
which is now aggressively
sweeping homeless encampments
2:13:56
from its
2:13:59
streets. You got to go. But you
know where you're gonna go,
2:14:04
yeah. Okay,
2:14:06
Adam Curry: okay, okay,
2:14:08
Unknown: we're in the Mission
District. It's a little after
2:14:11
7am Is this the first time
you've been involved in one of
2:14:14
these sweeps? No, no, no. This
is the first time they've been
2:14:18
so quiet and nice you'll
2:14:20
be in a shelter tonight. Well,
this covid? Yes, the Supreme
2:14:24
Court ruled that cities can now
cite fine or jail these people,
2:14:29
even if they have nowhere else
to go. We
2:14:31
have the ability to now enforce
the law. Mayor
2:14:33
London breed introduced what she
calls a very aggressive
2:14:37
strategy. They issued around 25
citations in the first two
2:14:41
weeks, you're criminalizing
something that a lot of people
2:14:44
can't help. They have no other
choice,
2:14:46
and that would be the case if we
weren't offering people a place
2:14:49
to go inside. They
2:14:50
haven't offered your shelter.
2:14:52
They said there's no opening for
shelter right now. There's no
2:14:56
beds or anything for trash. The
2:14:57
city says
2:14:58
no one this. Morning sweep ended
up in a shelter, not one. This
2:15:03
is the afternoon sweep we're in
so much South of Market. The
2:15:07
issue is, this is the 34th time
the city has swept this area
2:15:12
this year alone.
2:15:14
Adam Curry: 34th time. That's
2:15:16
John C Dvorak: a little twist on
the story. Doesn't
2:15:19
Adam Curry: seem to be working
very well.
2:15:23
John C Dvorak: Well, I know
whatever they're doing in San
2:15:24
Francisco, a lot of it's housing
has an impact, and the homeless
2:15:28
are moving, probably wisely, to
Oakland, right
2:15:33
Adam Curry: across the road from
you.
2:15:35
John C Dvorak: Well, it's far
enough away. I'm not worried
2:15:37
about it. But, okay, I wasn't
open the other day driving
2:15:40
around. Yeah, and it's worse
than ever. In a homeless
2:15:43
situation, there's encampments
under every Overpass, which
2:15:46
seems like ever there's a you
won't find a freeway overpass
2:15:50
where there aren't a bunch of
tents. And there's a huge park
2:15:53
on the corner of MacArthur and
Broadway for people who want to
2:15:58
check it out. And there's just
Tent City. The whole park isn't
2:16:02
completely filled, but it's a
borderline favela, but not the
2:16:07
right kind. The right kind needs
a view. Yes, yeah, it's a view
2:16:12
formula. And I don't see anybody
doing anything about anything in
2:16:18
Oakland.
2:16:19
Adam Curry: I have a second part
to this report, more than 4000
2:16:23
Unknown: people live on San
Francisco streets. There are
2:16:26
fewer than 4000 shelter beds,
and most nights, they're near
2:16:29
full, with a wait list of over
100 he's offering your shelter
2:16:34
bed. Yeah, so what are you going
to do? Are you going to
2:16:37
take it? Yeah, I'm going to take
it. But you know what? It's
2:16:40
something where it's typical,
like, I won't do it, man, I want
2:16:43
to do it because I stayed in
prison 2022 years. Do you really
2:16:47
think I want to be closed up in
a room with bars? No, I don't
2:16:52
think so. I'd rather sleep
outside. Since
2:16:54
the Supreme Court's decision,
cities and towns and states
2:16:58
across the country are now
proposing passing and enforcing
2:17:02
anti camping laws across
California, state authorities
2:17:07
have started sweeping in camps.
I'm
2:17:09
here on behalf of 40 million
Californians that are fed up.
2:17:13
I'm here because I'm one of
them, but
2:17:16
more than 50 academics told the
Supreme Court there's no
2:17:20
evidence that criminalizing
homelessness works. In fact,
2:17:24
there's a lot of evidence that
it's counterproductive. It's
2:17:27
Adam Curry: all Brits, by the
way, who are representing your
2:17:29
news
2:17:30
Unknown: well, what we want to
be able to do is use the
2:17:34
penalties as a way to get people
to commit to going indoors. You
2:17:38
spent
2:17:39
a lot of money from the city
sweeping that same street. To
2:17:42
me, that is the definition of
matter. But
2:17:44
what I'm saying to you is the
next option that we have for
2:17:48
people who are refusing what
we're offering is we will be
2:17:51
citing, and you'll maybe, in the
next couple months, take a look
2:17:55
at our data and see whether or
not this is working, and if it's
2:17:58
working, we'll continue. If it's
not, we need to pivot and to try
2:18:02
something else. Pivot, pivot.
2:18:05
Adam Curry: Gonna pivot and try
something else, like
2:18:08
flamethrowers or something.
2:18:11
Unknown: This is, this is
2:18:12
John C Dvorak: what is citing
somebody that homeless or living
2:18:15
in a tent, they got no income,
they got no job, they got
2:18:17
nothing and you're gonna give
them a ticket there. Yeah,
2:18:21
there's a $20
2:18:22
Adam Curry: ticket. They have no
strategy. This is just, just
2:18:27
sweep them up, sweep under the
rug. It's no strategy. There's
2:18:31
no strategy. Turn Oakland into a
big, big park. It's not a
2:18:36
strategy. It's very sad. It is.
Well, they
2:18:40
John C Dvorak: let it, they let
it fester. That's the problem.
2:18:43
Well, it could have been solved
if they had stopped it a decade.
2:18:46
They let
2:18:46
Adam Curry: it fester for
political reasons.
2:18:49
John C Dvorak: That's what they
did. Democrats,
2:18:51
Adam Curry: yes, yes, yes. The
robbers den, you know, you
2:18:59
remember the knife attack and
souling in Germany.
2:19:03
John C Dvorak: Yes, in fact, I
have a clip that references it.
2:19:05
Oh, well, let
2:19:06
Adam Curry: me play the clip and
I can tell you some. Have some
2:19:08
interesting details. What is the
name of this clip?
2:19:11
John C Dvorak: That's a good
question.
2:19:13
Adam Curry: Well, you're the you
brought it up. Well,
2:19:15
John C Dvorak: I mean, you
tricked me.
2:19:18
Adam Curry: I did not trick you
into anything. Oh, here it is.
2:19:23
No, no. Do you have I don't see
a knives clip?
2:19:28
John C Dvorak: No, it's, it's
under it came at either my maybe
2:19:31
the UK NEWS it. Oh yeah, I think
it came out of here. This is
2:19:35
when I think this, yes, it's in
here. It's a two parter. It's UK
2:19:39
NEWS. It's about Starmer, oh
2:19:41
Adam Curry: yeah, hanging out
with the German dude. Yeah? Here
2:19:44
British
2:19:44
Unknown: Prime Minister Keir
Starmer is seeking to reset
2:19:47
relations with the European
Union as he meets in Berlin with
2:19:50
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.
The two leaders have agreed to
2:19:54
work on a treaty covering issues
from defense to trade. Yeah,
2:19:57
let's
2:19:57
Adam Curry: just say defense.
2:19:59
Unknown: I'm absolutely. Clear
that we do want a reset. I've
2:20:02
been able to repeat that here
today, a reset with Europe, a
2:20:06
reset with the EU. But that does
not mean reversing Brexit or
2:20:11
reentering the single market or
the Customs Union. Scholes
2:20:15
said Germany wanted to take this
outstretched hand.
2:20:19
The United Kingdom
2:20:20
has always been an indispensable
part of the solution to the
2:20:23
major issues affecting the whole
of Europe. This has not changed
2:20:27
since the UK left the European
Union. The
2:20:30
new Cooperation Treaty would
deepen collaboration in science,
2:20:33
technology, business and
culture, while increasing trade
2:20:36
and guns. Britain and Germany
said they hoped to sign the
2:20:40
Cooperation Treaty by early next
year, at the heart of
2:20:43
this treaty will be a new
defense agreement. There it is
2:20:48
an agreement that builds upon
our already formidable defense
2:20:52
cooperation.
2:20:53
The deepening defense
cooperation comes ahead of a
2:20:56
possible scaling back of us
support for NATO if FORMER
2:21:00
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP returns
to the White House early next
2:21:03
year, Trump has said he would
not defend allies if they do not
2:21:07
increase their defense budgets.
2:21:09
Adam Curry: He don't think he
said that. Well, indirectly, he
2:21:12
says if you don't pay your fair
share, is what he said. But
2:21:15
yeah, it's a fair share thing.
Yeah. So where's the knife stuff
2:21:17
in the second clip? Here's the
second clip.
2:21:19
Unknown: Starmer also
highlighted cooperation on the
2:21:21
shared European challenge of
illegal immigration. The issue
2:21:25
is a hot topic in Germany at the
moment, following a knife attack
2:21:28
in zollingen that killed three
people and wounded eight more,
2:21:32
allegedly carried out by
suspected Islamic extremists
2:21:35
from Syria, Starmer reiterated
his plan to tackle the people
2:21:39
smuggling gangs behind the UK's
small boat crisis, which charged
2:21:43
migrants 1000s of dollars to
cross the sea from France to
2:21:47
Britain. He suggested the joint
action plan could involve
2:21:50
authorities intercepting boats
in transit across Europe to stop
2:21:54
them reaching the northern
French coast.
2:21:57
John C Dvorak: Have you ever
taken the before the Chunnel,
2:22:02
this very boat ferries across
the English Channel. It's
2:22:06
Adam Curry: called the vomit
Express.
2:22:08
John C Dvorak: It's
unbelievable. I don't do not
2:22:11
understand how a small boat can
make that trip. Well, a lot
2:22:14
Adam Curry: of them don't. I
guess a lot of them don't make
2:22:18
it. Well, back to the knife
attack, which was referenced in
2:22:22
that clip. I thought I
remembered the name Solingen. I
2:22:26
couldn't. I couldn't put my
finger on it. Do you know the
2:22:30
nickname of solingan, or what
they call it? No, the city of
2:22:36
knives, the Solingen knife
company comes from,
2:22:40
John C Dvorak: oh, that's there
is a nice Yes. It's
2:22:42
Adam Curry: called the city of
knives. Leave it to the city of
2:22:46
knives. Ironic, yes, the irony
is nuts. And now the the Berlin
2:22:51
police commissioner came out
with some tips and tricks to
2:22:57
employ if this happens and
you're around and someone is
2:23:02
going crazy, stabbing people.
The the police commissioner
2:23:06
said, Do something unexpected,
like making a phone call or
2:23:12
singing very loudly. This is,
this is the brilliant idea how
2:23:18
to thwart yourself from being
stabbed to death by a knife
2:23:23
attack. Just sing loudly. Oh
yes. And then this very sad news
2:23:33
from NPR regarding knives. All
right, here's
2:23:35
Unknown: a question, what is a
knife without a blade? That is
2:23:39
not a riddle or a Zen Buddhist
paradox? It's a question that
2:23:42
the maker of the Swiss Army
Knife has just answered in the
2:23:46
form of a new line of pocket
knives without blades, they
2:23:50
will still have the screwdriver
fear, not also the nail file,
2:23:53
the bottle opener, but not the
classic flip out blade.
2:23:57
Victorinox, the company behind
the ubiquitous multitool, has
2:24:01
made hundreds of millions of
Swiss Army knives since the late
2:24:04
19th century. But this is a
first. The
2:24:07
company's CEO told Swiss media
this week that the decision was
2:24:10
made because some countries have
increased the regulation of
2:24:13
knives in response to violent
crime.
2:24:15
Yeah, this is not the first time
Victoria Knox has had to pivot
2:24:18
based on current events when
sharp objects like pocket knives
2:24:22
were banned from planes after
911 the company leaned into
2:24:26
watches and luggage and leisure
wear and even fragrances. The
2:24:29
new bladeless pocket knives are
in development now, and
2:24:33
aficionados will still be able
to purchase the classic swiss
2:24:36
army knife.
2:24:37
Adam Curry: I love this story.
We should do hammers that are
2:24:41
just a piece of wood with no
head on it. It's a screwdriver
2:24:46
without a shaft. And what is a
Swiss Army Knife without a
2:24:50
blade?
2:24:52
Unknown: Dumb, yes.
2:24:55
Adam Curry: What I mean? What is
the world? And I remember we
2:24:57
used to say, hey, they're
banning knives in England. No.
2:25:00
Not true. There's no knife
crime, yes, meanwhile, we're
2:25:04
running around with nine mils
everywhere. Yeah, it's
2:25:08
John C Dvorak: a better idea,
you know, because when you shoot
2:25:10
somebody, everybody notices,
because it makes a lot of noise.
2:25:13
It's very loud, it's very
noticeable. Yes, yeah. So you
2:25:16
can get out. You can run out of
the way with some of the knife
2:25:19
and people left it right? You
scatter? Yes,
2:25:21
Adam Curry: you can scatter.
Yeah, unless, of course, you're
2:25:25
President Trump and you know,
and you're just walking around
2:25:28
with a with an AR 15, and you're
hanging out. Did you hear the
2:25:32
latest details? You see they had
pictures of the gun, and
2:25:35
John C Dvorak: I have the FBI
investigate shooting NTD, which
2:25:41
details what they did. Well,
2:25:42
Adam Curry: let me play mine
first, because NTD is such a
2:25:46
John C Dvorak: doom. Yeah, there
they do to complete a job of
2:25:50
actually giving you the
information.
2:25:51
Adam Curry: Well, this is
there's only one little bit in
2:25:53
here that I think is good.
2:25:55
Unknown: The FBI giving an
update this afternoon on its
2:25:57
investigation into the
assassination attempt a former
2:26:00
President Donald Trump in
Butler, Pennsylvania, that
2:26:02
update, including the release of
some new pictures showing the
2:26:05
gun backpack and undetonated
explosive device belonging to
2:26:09
the shooter, Thomas crooks
investigators saying that they
2:26:12
have been able to conduct an
extensive analysis into the
2:26:16
research he conducted before the
attack. However, they say no
2:26:20
clear motive has emerged.
Investigators say crooks
2:26:22
searched the dates and locations
of campaign rallies for both
2:26:26
Trump and President Joe Biden
today, the FBI also saying that
2:26:30
crooks was on the roof for just
six minutes before he fired
2:26:34
eight rounds at the former
president. Trump's ear was
2:26:38
injured in that shooting, one
rally, goer was killed, two
2:26:41
others were injured.
2:26:43
Adam Curry: Oh, it was only six
minutes. Six minutes. Are you
2:26:48
kidding me? And listen to how
that was reported. Oh, it was
2:26:51
only six minutes. What he was on
the roof for six minutes. That's
2:26:59
outrageous. Six
2:27:01
John C Dvorak: minutes is a if
we stop talking right now for
2:27:04
six minutes, everyone would stop
tuning it did. Six minutes is a
2:27:09
long time, I agree, of
especially dead air. But so the
2:27:15
guy gets up on the roof. He's up
there for six minutes, I would
2:27:18
say, over five minutes before
anybody
2:27:21
Adam Curry: even saw him. No,
you just say only six is how you
2:27:23
report on it. Well,
2:27:24
John C Dvorak: that's the way to
report only six. But six is you
2:27:27
got all these guys, spotters,
guys, you know? Yeah,
2:27:31
Adam Curry: I mean, people do a,
you know, mechanical bull for
2:27:34
eight seconds. If that do I want
to play your NTD report or
2:27:40
didn't mind cover it? I
2:27:41
John C Dvorak: think it's pretty
much the same story. It's a
2:27:43
little longer. No,
2:27:44
Adam Curry: it's the same
length, 46 seconds.
2:27:48
John C Dvorak: No, it was the
same, basically the same story.
2:27:50
Okay, let's go to this catch up
with some campaigning news. Oh,
2:27:55
okay, what painting?
2:28:01
Adam Curry: Oh, they were I
missed the queue. I'm queue
2:28:06
Unknown: you look queueless.
Vice President Harris is in
2:28:09
Georgia. Former President Donald
Trump is holding campaign events
2:28:12
in battleground states this
week, the very states that could
2:28:16
decide the election. NTDs
Washington correspondent Jack
2:28:19
Bradley has an update on Trump's
campaign. Former
2:28:22
President Trump is holding
campaign events this week in key
2:28:25
battleground states. Nothing is
scheduled for the former
2:28:28
president but his running mate,
Ohio Senator JD Vance, has two
2:28:32
rallies today. He's speaking in
Erie, Pennsylvania and in De
2:28:35
Pere, Wisconsin. Tomorrow, Trump
is holding a town hall in La
2:28:39
Crosse, Wisconsin, and on
Friday, a rally in johnsontown,
2:28:43
Pennsylvania, Trump said he'll
be attending the scheduled
2:28:46
presidential debate hosted by
ABC on September 10 in
2:28:49
Philadelphia. He initially
wanted to ensure the same rules
2:28:53
as the debate with CNN with
President Biden, rules,
2:28:56
including that candidates
microphones should be muted
2:28:59
while the other is speaking, and
they will be standing and they
2:29:02
cannot bring notes. RFK, Jr, who
recently dropped out of the
2:29:06
presidential race and endorsed
Trump, has pulled his name off
2:29:09
the ballots in several states.
He remains on the ballots in
2:29:13
Michigan and Wisconsin, both of
them swing states, even though
2:29:16
Kennedy tried to remove his
name, state laws don't allow it.
2:29:19
It will be interesting to see if
that actually impacts the votes.
2:29:23
Now this all comes as Trump's
campaign added Kennedy and Tulsi
2:29:26
Gabbard to his presidential
transition team. Gabbard is a
2:29:29
former Democratic Congresswoman
from Hawaii who ran for
2:29:32
president in 2020
2:29:34
Adam Curry: Okay, a couple
things. One, I think we should
2:29:38
analyze and think for a moment
about the next person who will
2:29:41
join the Trump campaign? There
has to be more. They can't be
2:29:46
shooting their all their wad on
RFK Jr in Tulsa. We've got to
2:29:50
have more coming in.
2:29:52
John C Dvorak: Oh, don't you
think that I never considered
2:29:54
this?
2:29:55
Adam Curry: Oh, there's got to
be another big name that joins.
2:29:57
It has to be a surprise, like
Alfred. Lincoln. That'll never
2:30:01
happen, but someone, someone of
great stature. Could there be
2:30:06
anyone who is not a complete
2:30:11
John C Dvorak: for it to be,
which is rare in that party, but
2:30:18
it has to be a disaffected
person uh, who sees it. It'll
2:30:24
reveal. It's the reveal will
take place after the debate, and
2:30:29
it will depend on how the
performance of Kamala goes. You
2:30:32
know, they kept trying to force
the idea that she could have
2:30:35
notes, and you know what that
means? She'd have a big binder
2:30:39
with tabs, a big, giant binder
with tabs, and she'd be flipping
2:30:43
it over and reading from these
notes.
2:30:45
Adam Curry: We, but we, I think
we need someone from show
2:30:47
business like Clooney, which
will never happen, but he's out
2:30:52
no but that level, someone,
someone big, maybe not. I mean,
2:30:57
this
2:30:58
John C Dvorak: show business
doesn't really have a I mean,
2:31:00
has no cash. I don't think this
is impactful, and it's and these
2:31:03
people are all pathetic, yeah, I
don't know. I don't see anybody
2:31:10
on the horizon. It'd be, it's a
good I like the idea, oh, he
2:31:14
Adam Curry: needs it. He needs
to do it. It has to be seen. How
2:31:16
about, how about Mike Rowe? Mike
Rowe would be a good one.
2:31:21
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but Mike
Rose already voting for him. Is
2:31:24
he, far as I can tell, he's a
Republican, yeah,
2:31:28
Adam Curry: okay, Mike Rowe
won't work. How about Bill
2:31:30
Maher?
2:31:33
John C Dvorak: That would be
interesting. I'll give you that
2:31:36
one. Bill Maher, but he hates
Trump so much that for him to
2:31:40
change, to change at this point.
Would it would be incredible,
2:31:46
yeah, I just don't see it. I
mean, it would be great, but I
2:31:50
he's such, he's such a
ideologue, yeah, and he really
2:31:56
hates Trump. He says, Yeah,
hates Trump, yeah,
2:31:58
Adam Curry: yeah, visceral well,
but he can still say, I hate
2:32:01
him, but he's got the right
ideas.
2:32:04
John C Dvorak: He could do that.
2:32:07
Adam Curry: And I saw this. I
saw an ad for this on X or it
2:32:10
wasn't an ad, because I have
premium free.
2:32:14
John C Dvorak: Oh, you paid. No,
I
2:32:16
Adam Curry: got it for free
because I you'd say I got the
2:32:18
blue check mark. You have the
blue check mark too. You don't
2:32:21
get to leave. You don't get ads.
I don't get any ads. You get
2:32:25
John C Dvorak: ads. I mean, once
in a while I think there's an ad
2:32:27
in there. No, I think
2:32:29
Adam Curry: it's just, I think
it's just a post. And I thought
2:32:32
it was a joke, but it wasn't.
Hello, everyone.
2:32:36
Unknown: This is your favorite
president, Donald J Trump, with
2:32:39
some very exciting news, by
popular demand, I'm doing a new
2:32:44
series of Trump digital trading
cards. You all know what they
2:32:47
are. We've had a lot of fun with
them. It's called the America
2:32:50
first collection, 50 all new,
Stunning Digital trading cards.
2:32:54
It's really something. These
cards show me dancing and even
2:32:57
me holding some bitcoins. Here's
the best part, I'm doing great
2:33:02
things for my trump digital card
collectors. First, there's the
2:33:06
real physical trump cards.
Purchase 15 or more of my trump
2:33:10
digital trading cards and we'll
mail you a beautiful physical
2:33:15
trading card. It's really, I
think, quite something. Each
2:33:18
physical trading card has an
authentic piece of my suit that
2:33:22
I wore for the presidential
debate, and people are calling
2:33:26
it the knockout suit. I don't
know about that, but that's what
2:33:28
they're calling it. So we'll cut
up the knockout suit, and you're
2:33:32
going to get a piece of it, and
we'll be randomly autographing
2:33:36
five of them, a true collector's
item. This is something to give
2:33:40
your family, your kids, your
grandchildren. Number two is to
2:33:44
purchase 75 of my trump digital
trading cards, and you will also
2:33:48
be invited to join me for a gala
dinner at my beautiful country
2:33:52
club in Jupiter, Florida. We
really have tremendous dinners
2:33:56
with my collectors. Have a lot
of fun together. We're gonna
2:33:59
have a good time.
2:34:00
Adam Curry: Okay, so I need to
say a
2:34:02
John C Dvorak: few things about
this unbelievable. First of all,
2:34:06
this definitely tops the Bible,
by the way,
2:34:08
Adam Curry: yeah, well, the
Bible, he was just endorsing. He
2:34:10
wasn't actually selling it, but
this, he's selling and so these
2:34:15
are nfts, which is exactly the
opposite of what the Bitcoin
2:34:21
people want, which is just dumb.
And then they say, Oh, I even
2:34:25
got some bitcoins or whatever,
but these are nfts. Gary Gensler
2:34:29
has just come out and said nfts
are securities, so he can expect
2:34:34
another lawsuit. Oh, yep,
they're unregistered securities.
2:34:39
You watch. He came out with it
yesterday, and and it's true. Of
2:34:43
course, they are, they are
unregistered securities because
2:34:46
you can trade them. Hello.
They're called trading cards. So
2:34:50
John C Dvorak: Pokemon card is
like, NFT is now going to be
2:34:54
subject to, uh, Securities
Exchange Commission. Are you
2:34:58
telling me that?
2:34:58
Adam Curry: No, because the. The
Those are real cards. This is
2:35:02
the digit. It's an NFT. It's a
little different than a Pokemon
2:35:05
Trading Card. It's the same
with, with all these cryptos,
2:35:10
they're all, they're all,
they've all been deemed not
2:35:13
commodities. But they except for
Bitcoin, they've been deemed
2:35:16
securities. I'm just, I'm just
analyzing. It's obvious what's
2:35:23
going to happen. Yeah, they're
2:35:24
John C Dvorak: gonna sue him.
He's gonna make a fuss. And
2:35:26
maybe it was designed for that,
but
2:35:29
Adam Curry: it's dumb and so and
they cost $99 Yes, $7,500 you
2:35:34
get invited to the gala. Okay,
well, you can just donate $7,500
2:35:40
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
Well, maybe he just said it. I
2:35:43
know what the price? Oh yeah,
well, there'll be a bit. That
2:35:45
means there'll be a the place
will be packed with people, and
2:35:47
you'll never get to meet him.
2:35:49
Adam Curry: Yeah, no, no, that's
75,000 to meet him for a
2:35:53
picture.
2:35:54
Unknown: Oh yeah,
2:35:54
Adam Curry: he knows what he's
doing. Um, poll Paul came out
2:36:00
according to Axios, more
Americans embrace covid Vax
2:36:04
untruths, which is an
interesting choice of words,
2:36:08
John C Dvorak: untruths. Yeah.
Big picture the finding they
2:36:12
don't, so they say they don't
embrace covid lies. Yes, the big
2:36:16
Adam Curry: picture, says Axios.
The findings from the University
2:36:18
of Pennsylvania's Annenberg
Public Policy Center are further
2:36:21
evidence of how intense backlash
to the government's at times
2:36:25
muddled covid response eroded
trust in public health,
2:36:29
jeopardizing preparedness
efforts to address future crises
2:36:33
of mosquitoes. What they found,
28% of respondents to the survey
2:36:38
incorrectly believed that covid
19 vaccines have been
2:36:43
responsible for 1000s of deaths.
Wait,
2:36:47
John C Dvorak: how can you
incorrectly believe?
2:36:50
Adam Curry: Thank you. I'm glad
you caught that they incorrectly
2:36:53
you believe
2:36:54
John C Dvorak: something. You
just believe it. You believe it.
2:36:56
I believe that the sky is green.
You're incorrectly would go like
2:37:00
this. I believe he believes the
sky is green, although he's
2:37:04
incorrect. They
2:37:04
Adam Curry: should have said
Believe, without evidence,
2:37:09
John C Dvorak: my favorite
phrase, it turns out this is
2:37:11
Adam Curry: up from 22% in June.
2021 the percentage, oh, who
2:37:16
know this is falling? Okay, so
the percentage who know this is
2:37:21
false declined to 55% from 66%
22% believe the false idea that
2:37:31
it's false idea, listen to this,
that it's safer to get a covid
2:37:35
infection than to get the
vaccine. Up from 10% in April
2:37:39
2021, months after the covid
shots were rolled out, the
2:37:43
percentage of those incorrectly
believing that the covid 19
2:37:47
vaccine changes dn people's DNA
nearly doubled to 15% from 8%
2:37:53
Wow, you stupid Americans.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
2:37:59
Meanwhile, I'd like to get some
confirmation on this, because it
2:38:03
comes from a sub stack in August
3333 nurses died suddenly.
2:38:12
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
what's his name? There's one guy
2:38:14
I can't remember his name off
hand. Who? Dark Mark Crispin
2:38:18
Miller. Mark Crispin, yeah,
yeah. Miller, is
2:38:21
Adam Curry: he full of crap?
2:38:23
John C Dvorak: All this is all
he does. No, he's not full of
2:38:25
crap. Okay? He just documents
every buddy he can find who died
2:38:30
before the age of 70, even
though he does it goes beyond
2:38:32
that too, uh, who they don't
have a cause of death, and he
2:38:36
just lists them all as as people
who died from the VAX. Well,
2:38:39
he's
2:38:39
Adam Curry: not saying that.
He's not, no,
2:38:41
John C Dvorak: it's what he No,
well, I'm
2:38:42
Adam Curry: implying, implying
it. Was implying it, yes, with
2:38:45
died. So
2:38:46
John C Dvorak: he's not saying
it, but he's, that's what he's
2:38:50
saying. Well,
2:38:50
Adam Curry: we have a lot of
nurses and doctors who are
2:38:52
producers. I'd love to hear if
they, if they are seeing similar
2:38:55
numbers of of their their
colleagues dying suddenly. I
2:38:59
John C Dvorak: know a lot of
these colleagues have quit the
2:39:01
business because they wouldn't
get this shot. Because what they
2:39:05
saw from people who did get this
shot, and the next thing you
2:39:09
know, they had to get the shot,
they said, No, I'm not going to
2:39:11
get the shot. I'm out of here.
And that's caused the problem,
2:39:15
same as in the military, with
people who quit Baron sir
2:39:19
Adam Curry: spud the mighty says
that x apparently still banning.
2:39:23
The hashtag died suddenly, what
I thought it was free speech
2:39:26
over there as Linda, Linda the
knob twiddler Can't trust Linda.
2:39:35
And then our Surgeon General
came out with an interesting
2:39:40
statement this week, as
summarized in this clip,
2:39:44
Unknown: I don't think it's a
surprise that parenthood is
2:39:46
stressful. I
2:39:47
think Desiree Terry is the
mother of three children.
2:39:50
I think we've all been feeling
it for a really long time, and
2:39:53
it's wonderful to actually have
some numbers to back it up.
2:39:56
Terry is talking about the
findings in a new surgeon
2:39:59
general advice. Three. Dr Vivek
Murthy says 48% of parents feel
2:40:04
completely overwhelmed. That
tells us we've got a real
2:40:07
challenge, and there's a lot
that's driving that. You know,
2:40:09
parents are they're not only
contending with the usual
2:40:12
stressors that come with being a
parent, worrying about finances
2:40:14
and safety, but they're also
worried about how to manage
2:40:17
social media and phones for
their kids. Associate
2:40:20
Professor of child psychiatry at
the University of Chicago, Dr
2:40:24
Holland. F Zell says parents'
well being is crucial when it
2:40:27
comes to a child's well being. F
Zell also says the finding about
2:40:31
the role of social media in a
parent's life was very
2:40:35
revealing. Murthy also says
employers should provide more
2:40:39
paid leave for parents and
access to affordable childcare
2:40:42
and have policies in place that
support parents and their mental
2:40:46
health.
2:40:48
Adam Curry: What kind of
psychological warfare is this? I
2:40:52
don't know so well. Don't Have
Kids. What it sounds like to me?
2:40:58
Oh, if you weren't worried
enough about the cost and social
2:41:02
media. It's going to stress you
out. Yes, my daughter just
2:41:07
turned 34 I'm still stressed
out. That's what you do as a
2:41:11
parent. It's one of the joys.
That's why I want them all to
2:41:13
have kids, to get back at them
2:41:18
Unknown: and laugh. What do you
think it is?
2:41:22
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
Psychological Warfare nuts. Cut
2:41:27
off. There you go.
2:41:30
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, that'll do
it. Do you want to play one more
2:41:32
clip or so? Just go straight
into the
2:41:35
John C Dvorak: just from a gut
felt show. This is a I'm
2:41:38
wondering, if you can guess,
this is Tom Chalu was the host.
2:41:41
He's a funny comic who does
Biden as an imitation. He's very
2:41:46
good at it. This is hobbies that
turn off women. Oh, but before
2:41:51
we play it, what? What would you
guess? Podcaster
2:41:54
Adam Curry: and day trader,
let's listen.
2:41:59
John C Dvorak: Those aren't
hobbies. Those are vocations.
2:42:03
The Internet gets reactive to
hobbies deemed unattractive.
2:42:06
Tonight, we
2:42:07
Unknown: examine a viral social
media post purportedly ranking
2:42:10
men's hobbies by how attractive
they're perceived by women. And
2:42:14
much to my dismay, wait a
minute.
2:42:16
Adam Curry: Let me think. Let me
think collecting Star Wars
2:42:19
figurines. Is that on the list?
Yes,
2:42:22
John C Dvorak: ah, I
2:42:23
Adam Curry: got one another one
would be Star Wars figurines,
2:42:29
video gaming. Video gaming. Oh,
you, you
2:42:32
John C Dvorak: saw this? No, no,
I
2:42:34
Adam Curry: did not. I'm just
thinking of what I find
2:42:36
detestable. Hosting
2:42:37
Unknown: Gutfeld is near the
bottom of the list. Now, we
2:42:41
couldn't verify the scientific
authenticity of this poll, but
2:42:44
when has that stopped us?
According to the chicks of this
2:42:49
chart, playing video games is
the number one fast track to the
2:42:53
friend zone, followed by things
like collecting figurines, doing
2:42:57
magic, gambling and even
building model trains.
2:43:03
Adam Curry: You're four for
four, don't you have model
2:43:08
trains? I know you've got a
model train set. So, yeah,
2:43:12
you've got when
2:43:13
John C Dvorak: I was a kid
collecting, I like trains a lot.
2:43:16
I didn't build model trains,
necessarily, but I do have, have
2:43:19
kept an engine from the 50s that
probably is worth something, but
2:43:27
I haven't sold it, so it
doesn't, can't prove anything,
2:43:31
but I know guys as adults that
do trains, and I do, and I do
2:43:36
enjoy seeing a good train
layout. It's very fascinating.
2:43:39
There's a
2:43:39
Adam Curry: very famous used to
be disc jockey in Holland, Eric
2:43:43
gsvart, and he came up a little
bit before me, and he wound up
2:43:49
being co owner of a very big,
very popular radio station. Once
2:43:53
commercial stations were radio
538, and he is all he, I mean,
2:43:59
he has a train in his backyard
that he can sit on.
2:44:03
John C Dvorak: Oh, that that's
Walt. Disney had one
2:44:07
Adam Curry: of those and and so
now he's, I think he's obviously
2:44:11
still a shareholder, but I don't
think he works necessarily
2:44:13
anymore in the radio business.
He's probably about five years
2:44:17
older than me, and now he drives
the tram. He's a tram conductor
2:44:24
in, I think, in, I don't know if
it's Rotterdam or Amsterdam, and
2:44:28
he's always posting pictures.
Well, going to work today, gonna
2:44:31
drive the tram.
2:44:36
John C Dvorak: Wow, that's a guy
who's dedicated to much
2:44:41
something about it. Yeah, train,
you know, train and pushing the
2:44:44
lever and making it go, yeah,
there's
2:44:46
Adam Curry: no evidence. He
hangs out with hot chicks.
2:44:49
Unknown: Oh, my God, listen
2:44:52
to that horn. I'm gonna show my
sword by donating to no agenda.
2:44:57
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah. Be fun well,
2:45:07
Adam Curry: we have a lot of fun
things to talk about. We have a
2:45:10
nice, stacked birthday list. We
have a number of of produced
2:45:16
meetup reports. Which are, I
like them. I like it when people
2:45:21
produce them, but we've had a
lot of very successful meetups.
2:45:24
And of course, we have the tip
of the day and our end of show
2:45:26
mixes. But first we're going to
thank our producers who came in
2:45:29
above $50 below. We don't
mention for reasons of
2:45:32
anonymity, and as always, we
have people on there who are on
2:45:35
the sustaining donations
program, which can get you to
2:45:38
knighthood. It happens all the
time. John, would you please
2:45:41
read us through down to the 50s?
2:45:43
John C Dvorak: I'll read a few
before you have to read one
2:45:45
which is starting with Curtis
Richie and sure burn New York
2:45:49
came in with 100 bucks, and
right away, right at the top is
2:45:52
Kevin McLaughlin in Concord,
North Carolina, 808. Is the
2:45:57
Archduke of Luna. Now we have a
night, and we we will read these
2:46:02
notes when they come in at these
low levels. And this is
2:46:05
Christian rule ish In Winter
Haven Florida, 808 he says,
2:46:11
Adam Curry: Hey fellas, so many
puppies to feed this week, I've
2:46:13
sent my donation of 808 through
the usual method. And after some
2:46:17
careful accounting, I'm a Knight
of the no agenda show. Very
2:46:19
exciting, much, muchly happy,
and accounting is below. If it's
2:46:23
okay with the peerage committee,
I wish to be referred to as Sir
2:46:26
loin of the Winter Haven from
here on. That's fine for the
2:46:29
round table. I would like
Skyline chili, four way bean and
2:46:32
Jamison, Blackberry whiskey,
black barrel whiskey. We have
2:46:36
both of those for you lined up
at the table. It's been a
2:46:38
genuine pleasure listening to
John and his various
2:46:41
interpretations of pronunciation
of my last name to aid John with
2:46:44
future donations, he may just
refer to me as sir loin of
2:46:48
Winterhaven on my way to
becoming a Duke. Well, please
2:46:52
mention that in your future
donations so we get that right.
2:46:55
God bless you both. You are true
patriots of our great country,
2:46:59
Sincerely and respectfully
Christian grulich Sirloin of
2:47:03
Winterhaven. PS, and for a
winning resume that'll get you
2:47:06
noticed, contact the lovely
Lyndon lupatkin at imagemakers,
2:47:10
inc.com That's imagemakers.com
inc.com with a K and enter code
2:47:15
Bongino to see what happens
next.
2:47:22
John C Dvorak: Ah, uh, Bart
Hendricks is next. Uh, he's in
2:47:27
part, heritan Holland, $75
Hareton, that's good. Uh, Dana
2:47:35
Carroll in Laughlin, Nevada,
7227 Borge Alvarez in Ponte.
2:47:42
Verdra Beach, Florida, 7171
Craig Kohler in Evansville,
2:47:49
Indiana, 6502 and these are the
following. Lindy, well, we got
2:47:53
Gaucho woodworking, of course.
Look them up. They're listed on
2:47:56
the Google Gaucho woodworking.
They make great cutting boards
2:48:00
and such. Redondo Beach,
California, 6352 this is a karma
2:48:06
for Adam's birthday. And it says
my birthday, plus my right knee
2:48:09
replacement on Adam's birthday.
Guy. Now I'm just going to read
2:48:16
these are 6229 and 60s. These
are all birthday shout out. So
2:48:21
I'm just going to go read the
name of the individuals, and if
2:48:24
there's a location, for some
reason, the location only shows
2:48:27
up a few times. But mansuor rod,
uh, prison O'Leary. The guy's
2:48:33
name is prison, I don't think
so. Yeah, I
2:48:35
Adam Curry: hope so. Maybe he's
from the prison in O'Leary.
2:48:39
John C Dvorak: Uh, Michael
Belcher, Kevin McLaughlin, once
2:48:42
again, thank you. Kevin, yeah.
Alan shaft, shaft, shaft chef,
2:48:49
uh. Steve Niles in Santa Cruz.
Trevor Hoagland, William Baker,
2:48:55
B, A, k, k, e, r bucker, Maria
Rickard Hong, nutritional
2:48:59
healing, okay, all right. Kelly
Hubbard, sir Job. Job, one of my
2:49:09
favorite names, Night Of The
Night of the jiggly bits. That's
2:49:12
right, sir. Jub job, uh. Derek
Tipton, Jamie Buell, a Baronet,
2:49:20
Benjamin Ritter's Angela
Pickering Dan King, Cameron
2:49:28
Adam Curry: Dan King also asked
for a deduced for his free, free
2:49:32
loading. Brother, Matt King,
from central point, Oregon,
2:49:37
you've been deduced. Caught it.
Caught it. Good. Catch.
2:49:43
John C Dvorak: Uh, Cameron
Linga, Brian, Belen Brian, mass
2:49:49
uh, Walter hilbeck, um, very
long. Thank you. Note there.
2:49:57
Yancey summer. Gerald Preston,
Schuman, Roy, sir, B boop. And
2:50:05
that ends the well, which is now
the next the next show will be
2:50:11
your official birthday show on
Sunday. Yes,
2:50:13
Adam Curry: this is my birthday
week. Is what we're celebrating
2:50:15
here, and I will be working on
my birthday. Well, no,
2:50:20
John C Dvorak: no, your birthday
is Tuesday. Well, you might be
2:50:22
working, but no, my show my
2:50:24
Adam Curry: birthday is
Wednesday. No, that was Tuesday.
2:50:27
The third It's Wednesday, and
then I'll be working Thursday,
2:50:32
while on a so called vacation,
uh, and Sunday, the Sunday after
2:50:37
that, because Tina's taking me
to Mexico. So that's my birthday
2:50:40
present. So I will be was, what
day is the what? The third of
2:50:43
September, that's Tuesday. Well,
I'll be celebrating it on
2:50:47
Wednesday. Okay, it's Tuesday.
I'm sorry. Tuesday is like, I
2:50:54
don't really want to know about
it. It's too late. So cheer me
2:50:58
up, everybody with a donation.
2:51:00
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. $60
donation to Adam for his
2:51:03
birthday. Sunday show. Let's try
to boost the Sunday show with
2:51:07
congratulate and you get 600
would be cool.
2:51:12
Adam Curry: Yeah, that would be
cool. It's all right.
2:51:14
John C Dvorak: Steve banstric
comes to his 5993 eggs. Donation
2:51:19
over easy. 5993 backwards. Oh,
that is, yeah, that's cool if
2:51:25
you flip it over, yep, but
that's interesting. Eggs
2:51:28
Adam Curry: over easy and too
many eggs.com.
2:51:31
John C Dvorak: Yeah, too many
eggs.com. Geek rolling in Coeur
2:51:34
d'Alene, Idaho, 5856 Nicholas,
Oman in Dilworth, Minnesota,
2:51:43
5856 I don't know what that
number coming no, he
2:51:47
Adam Curry: needs something
travel karma. We'll give it
2:51:49
John C Dvorak: to you. Yes, put
some travel karma at the end for
2:51:53
him. Joshua Stewart and Bowling
Green, 55 he says
2:51:56
Adam Curry: he's been listening
for over a decade, and now he
2:51:59
requests the deduching is the
first time that he's donated
2:52:03
trace from Bowling Green,
Kentucky. He's from the summer
2:52:06
ozempics of Bowling Green. I'll
deduce him for that
2:52:10
Unknown: you've been deduced.
2:52:14
John C Dvorak: Here's a William
Edelen in Jacksonville, Florida,
2:52:19
which came in with 55 which is
the 20% cut of the David Dana
2:52:25
Brunetti unclaimed property
donation drive, an excellent
2:52:29
idea, I might add, as far which
was one of our tips of the day?
2:52:32
Yes, surprise of astonishment in
UConn, Oklahoma. 5444 another
2:52:37
missing name, Mark, oh no, it's
Mark Hardwick in Alito, Texas,
2:52:41
5333 Kyle tack in Yankton, South
Dakota, 5272 and as a happy
2:52:49
birthday, call out a might for
himself, yep, for Willa. Michael
2:52:53
Willa Willa Willa Willa, Michael
Friedel. Friedel in Kansas City,
2:53:00
5272 Scott Nelson, Council
Bluffs, Iowa, 5001 and now the
2:53:06
rest are 50s. And we're going to
go through them, name and
2:53:08
location if I have a location,
starting with Brian emmon Heiser
2:53:12
in Lancaster. Michael Elmore in
Gastonia, North Carolina. John
2:53:19
Taylor in Florida, fluorescent
Colorado. Aaron wise Gerber in
2:53:25
Bend, Oregon. Richard Gardner,
who I believe is in New York
2:53:28
City, but doesn't say ZEV green
in Teaneck, New Jersey. Hockey,
2:53:35
Esparza, Ella ragia in Mexico
City. I think. David Steele in
2:53:44
Mobile, Alabama, we need more
Mexico city people. We do leave.
2:53:48
They got to 13 million people or
plus living there. Leave.
2:53:52
Thompson in Meridian, Idaho.
Justin Kaler in Bluffton,
2:53:58
Indiana. Ed Edwin Torres in San
Antonio. Ryan wicker wickenhagen
2:54:05
in town. Send Georgia and last
uh, Baron Allen bean in
2:54:12
Beaverton, Oregon, who's been
with us since almost the very,
2:54:16
very beginning, who once said a
$50 check in, and says, As long
2:54:19
as you guys are good, I'm going
to send a $50 check in once a
2:54:24
month, and he has been giving
this money ever since
2:54:28
Adam Curry: it does he have a
title,
2:54:30
John C Dvorak: he's a baron. Oh,
okay, well,
2:54:32
Adam Curry: then he has a title.
He might, he
2:54:33
John C Dvorak: probably higher
than that, but he still goes by
2:54:35
Baron. Oh, well, that's it. He
used to live in Oakland.
2:54:40
Adam Curry: Well, thank you very
much, Baron. And thank you to
2:54:42
everyone who supported Episode
1690, of the best podcast in the
2:54:46
universe, because we have the
best producers in the podcast.
2:54:49
It's easy to check. You can ask
anybody someone was saying the
2:54:52
other day, you know that this
one podcast, the dire of a CEO,
2:54:57
has 65 people working on the
pod. Podcast. And I said, so
2:55:01
what? We've got 10s of 1000s of
producers working on the
2:55:04
podcast.
2:55:06
John C Dvorak: Does he pay those
65 people? He does. Are they
2:55:08
volunteers? No,
2:55:09
Adam Curry: no, he'll No, I
think he pays him. Yeah, they go
2:55:12
to an office and everything,
what? Yeah, no, he'll be poor
2:55:16
soon. Don't worry. He does all
kinds of but what do
2:55:19
John C Dvorak: you need that may
I mean, if you're going to be
2:55:21
paying people to work full time,
he also
2:55:23
Adam Curry: has, this was the
big news at Podcast Movement,
2:55:26
which was in Washington, DC, on
a Wednesday, a Thursday and a
2:55:30
Friday, which doesn't sound like
a great you know, when school's
2:55:34
back. I mean, I don't know how
many people showed up. Well,
2:55:37
this guy, this, I forget his
name, Bartlett. I think his name
2:55:40
is he's very famous, very famous
podcaster. When he does
2:55:46
interviews with people, he has a
CO two monitor in the studio,
2:55:49
and when it hits 1000 parts per
million, then he stops the
2:55:53
interview, because he says, then
people won't be thinking
2:55:56
straight. That was the big news
that came out of the podcast
2:56:01
world this past week.
2:56:03
Unknown: What?
2:56:05
Adam Curry: Yes, yeah. 1000
parts per million, then you
2:56:08
can't think straight. He claims,
is that true?
2:56:12
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
know if it's true or not, but
2:56:14
What? What? Why don't you just
open up window, dude?
2:56:21
Adam Curry: Thank you all very
much, especially those who came
2:56:23
in under $50 for reasons of
anonymity, or if you're on one
2:56:26
of our many, many possibilities
for your own sustaining
2:56:31
donation, please remember us.
Support us. Send us some value
2:56:35
back. Go to no agenda
donations.com. Here's the goat
2:56:38
karma for those who want,
including sir CB, who needs some
2:56:42
garage sale karma?
2:56:44
Unknown: You've got
2:56:47
Adam Curry: karma. No agenda
donations.com.
2:56:56
Unknown: Here's the birthday
list. We've
2:56:58
Adam Curry: got Tim Kimbrough
turn 55 on the 25th Kyle tack
2:57:03
wishes Willa happy one turn 13
on the 25th as well. Andrew,
2:57:07
Andrew Andre Mackey turned 17
today. How about that? Sean
2:57:13
O'Connor turning 41 today.
Thomas Weaver turned 38 today.
2:57:18
Dame four and lady before turn
76 one day before me. I'll be
2:57:22
60, but she turned 76 on
September 2, and Gaucho
2:57:26
woodworking shares a birthday
with me on September 3. Happy
2:57:30
birthday from everybody here at
the best podcast in the
2:57:33
universe. She
2:57:44
well, not only does she turn 76
on September 2, but today she
2:57:50
becomes a vis Countess Dame
foreign lady before now becomes
2:57:54
vi Countess Dame a foreign lady
before. Protectorate for her is
2:57:59
the old town of Grayson in
northeast Georgia, a classy Dame
2:58:03
indeed, a vis Countess no less.
Congratulations. Two nights,
2:58:08
finally got some nice to bring
up here to the round table. So
2:58:11
get out your blade, John, there
you go. Don't bring out your
2:58:14
nice army knife, because it
doesn't have a blade.
2:58:17
John C Dvorak: It's just a
corkscrew.
2:58:20
Adam Curry: Saren Denzil,
Christian grillik, step on up.
2:58:24
Gentlemen, both of you have
supported the no agenda show in
2:58:26
the amount of $1,000 or more
that qualifies you for a
2:58:30
knighthood. It's just as good as
one of those that the King of
2:58:33
England gives away, only we
actually give you something cool
2:58:36
that you can wear every single
day. So I'm very proud hereby to
2:58:38
pronounce Kate Diaz, Sir Knight
Z and Sir loin of Winter Haven
2:58:44
for you gentlemen, we have
hookers and blow. That's
2:58:47
something the king won't give
you either. Red boys and
2:58:50
Chardonnay, Skyline chili, four
way bean and Jamison. Black
2:58:53
barrel whiskey along with that
Bong. It's bourbon, sparkling
2:58:55
cider escorts, ginger ale and
gerbils, breast milk and pablum.
2:58:59
And of course, we always have
the effervescent mutton and
2:59:01
Mead, and when you're done
snacking on that, go to no
2:59:04
agenda rings.com. Check out the
beautiful rings. We have the
2:59:07
Signet rings for knights and for
dames, and we deliver that to
2:59:11
you with a certificate of
authenticity and wax, which you
2:59:14
can melt down on seal your
important correspondence with.
2:59:17
Thank you both for supporting
the no agenda show, and welcome
2:59:20
to the round table of the no
agenda nights and days.
2:59:30
Unknown: Yeah, baby.
2:59:32
Adam Curry: So we may not do
anything big, centralized like a
2:59:36
no agenda con, but we love our
meetups, and everyone else in
2:59:40
the all the other producers seem
to love it. These are producer
2:59:43
organized meetups. You go to no
agenda meetups.com. You can
2:59:46
register your Meetup, or you can
find one near you. And people
2:59:49
like telling us how much they
enjoyed it. Here is the report
2:59:52
from Keene, New Hampshire.
2:59:54
Unknown: Hey there. This is the
new agenda meetup in Keene at
2:59:59
John C Dvorak: the Jamaica.
Restaurant, and
3:00:01
Unknown: we had a lot of fun.
There was four of us, three of
3:00:03
us Reapers, and one person got
hit in the mountain in the
3:00:06
morning, John and Adam. This is
crypto Duke. Maybe sometime
3:00:10
you'll come out here. You know,
it's not too far from a Plymouth
3:00:13
Mouse. Oh, but
3:00:16
we'll never get the grumpy gun
to come here.
3:00:18
Adam Curry: Okay, bye, bye. All
right, the tip is to record an
3:00:21
acquired location. Let's see how
Tulsa did. Hey, shmiri,
3:00:26
Unknown: what? Where do I find
the wildest and weirdest
3:00:29
conversational threads in
Oklahoma? The Tulsa, no agenda.
3:00:32
Don't be a douchebag. Meetup.
3:00:36
Hey, John and Adam. This is Alan
in Tulsa. I called this meetup
3:00:40
together to let everyone know
that I'm ending my campaign and
3:00:43
I'm endorsing the curry Dvorak
ticket. Four more years. It's
3:00:48
Hallie Howdy, John and Adam.
We're just here at this white
3:00:52
Christian nationalist meetup
looking to repeal the 19th Hey,
3:00:57
John, Adam. This is David. You
guys. Podcast is so informative.
3:01:01
But what is Aleppo
3:01:06
in the morning? Guys, this year
I'm
3:01:07
voting Linda lapatkin
3:01:10
Adam Curry: Aleppo, that's in
Syria. You know what Aleppo is?
3:01:13
Spearfish, South Dakota. Come on
in with your report.
3:01:22
Unknown: Good. Evening. This is
Jessica. We interrupt this
3:01:25
broadcast to bring you breaking
news from the cow peak. No
3:01:29
agenda. Meetup of the Black
Hills. Our very own Juan Miguel
3:01:33
is on the scene. Let's go to him
now live for more details.
3:01:37
Hey Jessica, thank you. I'm here
at the crows beat brewery here
3:01:42
in Spearfish, South Dakota. It's
an incredible scene. Lots of
3:01:45
energy, lots of activity. I
think we even have midgets. I'm
3:01:49
not sure they may also be small
children. Over here, we have a
3:01:52
table of people for the no
agenda. Meet up. Let's see if we
3:01:55
can get some comments from them
3:01:59
in the morning. This is Jessica.
The company is great, and the
3:02:02
green kombucha tastes better
than it looks. In the
3:02:06
morning, Adam and John. This is
Caitlin coming to you from the
3:02:08
cows peak meet up in Spearfish,
South Dakota. I saw a guy
3:02:11
wearing a t shirt that said, Put
a hog between her legs.
3:02:16
Everybody. This is John Dale
having a good time here at the
3:02:19
crow peak brewery here in
Spearfish, South Dakota, in the
3:02:22
morning,
3:02:24
in the morning, this is Casey,
and we're at the first ever snow
3:02:27
peas. No agenda, meet up in
Spearfish, South Dakota, at the
3:02:30
crow peak brewery.
3:02:33
Hey, my name is say I come down
here to Fortune get some beers
3:02:37
after working on the roof all
day, and they have some beers.
3:02:41
So I got a beard. I'm not sure
what is the no agenda's thing
3:02:45
though.
3:02:46
I just wanna know my social pet
store in the morning.
3:02:54
Back to you, Jessica.
3:02:59
Adam Curry: Wait What John Dale
actually emailed me, is it okay
3:03:02
if we say midgets in the meetup
report like you do? You bro,
3:03:06
whatever you want. Now we go
over to London, merry old
3:03:10
England. Here is guof and his
report from his meetup
3:03:15
Unknown: from the Gitmo nation,
the UK in the morning.
3:03:19
Who's my favorite look.
3:03:22
I do believe it's that John,
John C. I
3:03:25
think it's called John c1,
3:03:27
100% I'm Elliot from Croydon,
and I am the douchebag
3:03:32
in the morning. John and Adam,
this pop quiz is rigged like
3:03:35
your elections.
3:03:36
This is Woof the carcap, the
London no agenda meet hub,
3:03:41
longest standing member, part
two, and I'm affecting my pitch
3:03:47
for the V for VTV channel. Yeah,
hi,
3:03:51
John, Hi Adam seven. Freeze from
g7 LH, I can listen later on the
3:03:56
airwaves, and I've enjoyed every
member of it. So take
3:04:01
care. Bye, John and Adam,
please. Out. So thank you for
3:04:03
your
3:04:05
courage. Steve at the London
meet up in Fitzrovia, awesome
3:04:11
experience. Lovely ice gone off.
3:04:14
This is Sue from Melbourne,
Australia, reporting from meet
3:04:17
up at sump pub called the law of
the land. And I encourage you
3:04:22
all to come to this meet up with
Gregory and everyone else called
3:04:27
no agenda. And if we could come
back again next year, we would.
3:04:33
And John agrees,
3:04:37
I may have a bit of a hangover
tomorrow due to climate change.
3:04:46
Adam Curry: Okay? And a happy
birthday song. Thank you very
3:04:49
much. Well, sounds like everyone
had a good time there in the UK.
3:04:52
Time for us to visit John, we
got a lot of people out of
3:04:55
producers. Oops, a lot of
producers over there. Yeah, we
3:04:58
do having a good time.
Obviously. Here's what's coming
3:05:00
up today. The North Georgia
monthly kicks off at six o'clock
3:05:04
at Cherry brewing, Cherry Street
brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia
3:05:07
On Sunday, the first annual no
agenda, anti anti tam
3:05:12
battlefield meetup. Anti Tam,
anti Tam, that's at 10 o'clock
3:05:18
in the morning at anti tam
National Battlefield. Oh, that's
3:05:21
a Maryland, Sharpsburg, Maryland
and on. Also, that's
3:05:26
John C Dvorak: mispronouncing
it. How
3:05:27
Adam Curry: do i pronounce it?
3:05:29
John C Dvorak: Because you
mispronounce it, I can't. It's
3:05:31
antimony or something. It's,
3:05:34
Adam Curry: you literally
spelled A, N, T, I, E, T, A, M
3:05:37
and T, a tam and Tia and to,
hey, it's charming. The National
3:05:43
Battlefield of that place in
Sharpsburg, Maryland, very go
3:05:47
there.
3:05:47
John C Dvorak: Civil War battle,
yes, go there.
3:05:50
Adam Curry: And the annual South
Jersey pig roast meetup, five
3:05:53
o'clock at Medford Lake, New
Jersey. Oh, that's dame, one of
3:05:56
the lakes. You've got to contact
her for details. It's probably
3:05:59
at her house. So go to no nogen
to meetups.com. For that. Coming
3:06:02
up on September. This is gonna
cook a pig, I think so it's the
3:06:06
annual South Jersey pig roast
meetup. So yes, they're gonna
3:06:09
cook a pig. Cooking up a pig.
This is an interesting one
3:06:13
Plymouth, Massachusetts. I was
just there. I would have loved
3:06:17
to have been in a meetup.
Instead. They're doing one post
3:06:20
visit, and they sent a promo
3:06:22
Unknown: in a world on the brink
of war, it took 80 years to
3:06:27
build, where whispers of
rebellion echoed through the
3:06:30
colonies, one of his right on
the water, based on a true
3:06:34
story,
3:06:36
Adam Curry: it symbolizes The
America, it really does, of
3:06:40
Unknown: love, romance and Adam
and Tina's visit last month,
3:06:44
the British will be here. Soon.
We shall stand our ground and
3:06:47
fight them to the death.
3:06:49
This is America. You dumb, some
of it. Okay, this Labor Day,
3:06:51
James winters, Massachusetts,
the 81
3:06:58
Adam Curry: foot tall monument
was commissioned by the
3:07:02
Unknown: pilgrim society at the
National Monument to the
3:07:05
forefathers in Plymouth,
Massachusetts, the anarchists,
3:07:10
the agitators, the looters and
people who, in many instances,
3:07:14
have absolutely no clue
3:07:16
what they are doing, find out
what it really means an
3:07:25
entire nation founded on saying
one thing and doing another
3:07:28
to be an American, and we will
3:07:31
call that country
3:07:32
the United States of America.
3:07:35
The adamantino were here meet up
coming Monday, September 2, at
3:07:39
the National Monument to the
forefathers Massachusetts.
3:07:43
Adam Curry: That's pretty cool.
Too long. Yes, too long.
3:07:46
John C Dvorak: But by the way,
it's pronounced Antietam.
3:07:50
Antietam. Okay, that's
3:07:52
Adam Curry: pretty cool, though.
So finally, we're going to put
3:07:54
the National Monument to the
forefathers on the map. Can you
3:07:57
imagine the no agenda? Meet up
there. It's in a cul de sac.
3:08:00
It'll be interesting with see
what the neighbors have to say
3:08:03
John C Dvorak: about y'all. I'm
sure they won't be pleased. One
3:08:05
Adam Curry: more promo for North
Florida.
3:08:12
Unknown: Ahoy Florida producers,
you are quarterly invited to a
3:08:16
summoning of the seas at our
September meetup in Saint
3:08:19
Augustine on Sunday, September
15, at 2pm join us for a round
3:08:24
table full of seafood and
Sangria to hear all the tales of
3:08:28
the no agenda crew, don't forget
to cast your vote for our
3:08:32
November to remember meetup
adventure RSVP for this meetup
3:08:36
and more, all at no agenda
meetups.com. It's like a bard.
3:08:40
Ah, there
3:08:42
Adam Curry: you go. And we have
many more to mention. I'm going
3:08:46
to skip them, since this was a
very long meetup segment, but I
3:08:49
do want everyone to know,
October 18, Matt long. Matt
3:08:53
Long, who was a well known
person here in in
3:08:57
Fredericksburg, Texas, is
organizing a meetup right here
3:09:01
in Fredericksburg. Curry and the
keeper will be there. Many more,
3:09:05
I'm sure, who are in the Texas
region will be coming to
3:09:09
Fredericksburg. Come to our
lovely town, book an Airbnb. You
3:09:12
don't want to stay at the motel,
six and come join the meetup. I
3:09:16
think that's on Friday, I think
October 18, Fredericksburg,
3:09:19
Texas. Those are the meetups.
Many more you can can be
3:09:23
found@noadgendameups.com if you
can't find one near you, like
3:09:27
Fredericksburg, Texas, then
start one yourself at no agenda
3:09:30
meetups.com. It's easy and
always a party triggered all
3:09:40
Unknown: you to be where you
won't be triggered or, hell,
3:09:46
everybody feels the same.
3:09:52
Adam Curry: It's like a party.
It's like a party, yes, indeed,
3:09:56
just like a party. I only have
one. One ISO, so why don't you
3:10:01
do yours, and then I'll play
mine, which I think is gonna
3:10:03
win?
3:10:05
John C Dvorak: Okay, we start
with the podcast is so good. Oh,
3:10:08
that
3:10:09
Adam Curry: one might win. Let's
see. The podcast is so good.
3:10:13
Wow, it's really a low level.
You didn't make that yourself.
3:10:16
Someone else did that for you.
Let me try that again.
3:10:18
Unknown: The podcast is so good.
3:10:22
Adam Curry: That has no dynamics
3:10:24
Unknown: sexism. This is blatant
sexism.
3:10:30
Adam Curry: Well, that would be
appropriate for this show. Who
3:10:35
was that? Megyn Kelly, exactly,
3:10:41
John C Dvorak: and for our last
celebrity entry, nailed it,
3:10:45
nailed
3:10:45
Unknown: it, nailed it.
3:10:48
Adam Curry: Who was that?
3:10:51
Unknown: Who does that? Who said
that
3:10:53
John C Dvorak: he has an adenoid
an adenoidal voice, and he's
3:10:57
podcasting all the time. Scott
Adams, who that was Scott
3:11:02
Adam Curry: Scott Adams. Oh no,
no. Can't do Scott Adams. Here's
3:11:06
my I only have one entry
3:11:07
Unknown: breaking
3:11:08
crazy.
3:11:12
What freaking crazy?
3:11:17
Adam Curry: You don't like
freaking crazy. It
3:11:20
John C Dvorak: sounds like he's
saying breaking No, freaking
3:11:24
Adam Curry: All right. Well, I
think we go with Megan. This
3:11:26
Unknown: is blatant sexism. I
3:11:28
Adam Curry: think that's the one
we go with. I think so, yeah, I
3:11:30
think that's a good one. Now,
everybody, it's time before we
3:11:33
wind up the show. It is John's
Tip of the Day.
3:11:42
Unknown: And sometimes Adam.
3:11:46
John C Dvorak: So there's a
really good book. I'm going to
3:11:48
plug a book come
3:11:49
Adam Curry: into the mic.
3:11:52
John C Dvorak: I can't come in
any closer without banging my
3:11:54
nose. I'm going to plug a book
called might of the chain. I
3:12:02
don't like the title, but the
book is fantastic. Might of the
3:12:07
chain. Might, might the chain,
forging leaders of iron
3:12:13
integrity, another subtitle. I
don't like that either, but the
3:12:16
book itself is fabulous. It's
from is by Mike studeman, a Rear
3:12:21
Admiral, former retired who is
actually something of a of a
3:12:26
spook. He's now working for
miter as a national security
3:12:30
fellow. And this book is it's
outrageously interesting. In
3:12:36
fact, it's got a blurb by Henry
Kissinger, that says thoughtful
3:12:42
and engaging. When I read the
blurb, I said, one of those
3:12:44
blurbs that you just write. I
used to be an associate with
3:12:50
John Brockman, the New York
agent. And he told me very early
3:12:55
on, he says, you know Alan watt,
the guy who wrote all the books
3:12:58
on Zen Buddhism. He said that
guy, if somebody mentioned
3:13:03
blurb, he says, I'm in and he
would write the blurb. He would
3:13:07
write any blurb for anybody. And
I've taken that same I felt the
3:13:11
same way, always weirded out,
but by people who say, Oh no, I
3:13:16
have to read it first. I have to
do this. So I read this
3:13:19
thoughtful and engaging by
Kissinger, I said he's one of
3:13:22
those guys just writes phony
blurbs. No, this book is the
3:13:26
most thoughtful book I've ever
run into, at least for a couple
3:13:30
of years. It's just loaded with
information. If you are a
3:13:33
business manager, a guy who
wants to get into management, or
3:13:36
if you're in the military, it's
about leadership, and it's,
3:13:39
it's, it's it's just so full of
tips. It's, it's great. It's a
3:13:44
meta tip. It's really a good
book. So it's called might, I
3:13:48
don't like the title. It could
have been called a lot of
3:13:50
different things, but might of
the chain by stood studeman, s,
3:13:56
s, t, u, d, e, M, a, n, uh. Get
a copy if you can. If you want
3:14:01
to have something
3:14:02
Adam Curry: good to read. Wow. A
Reading Tip that doesn't happen
3:14:05
often. Now,
3:14:06
John C Dvorak: I think once a
month I'm going to try to do a
3:14:07
book. No
3:14:08
Unknown: commercials. More
content.
3:14:11
Your no agenda. Tip of the Day.
3:14:14
Adam Curry: There it is. Your no
agenda. Tip of the Day.
3:14:18
Everybody. Beautiful. And that
concludes our broadcast time.
3:14:24
Let's see, yep, it's time end of
show mixes, Professor Jay Jones,
3:14:29
we got Dee's laughs and David
kecta all coming in with end of
3:14:33
show mixes, good to have you
boys on board as usual. End of
3:14:37
show. Let's see. That means we
have something coming up next?
3:14:40
Ah yes, behind the schemes with
booberry and lavish live? Is it
3:14:46
live? I don't know if they're
live, but there are. They're on
3:14:49
the no agenda stream, which is
24/7 there's no reason to even
3:14:54
turn. You know what we say in
the old days, lock it in and rip
3:14:58
the knob off. No. No
agendastream.com, trollroom.io,
3:15:03
and coming to you from the heart
of the Texas Hill Country, and
3:15:07
right where the future meet up
in Fredericksburg, Texas, will
3:15:09
be taking place FEMA Region
number six in the morning.
3:15:12
Everybody. I'm Adam curry,
3:15:14
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I remain,
3:15:17
I'm John C Dvorak.
3:15:18
Adam Curry: We will be here on
Sunday. Please join us for more
3:15:22
media deconstruction. You know
you want it. You know you need
3:15:25
it. Remember us at no agenda,
donations.com, until then,
3:15:29
adios, mofos, a hooey, hooey and
such. I don't
3:15:35
Unknown: know what's wrong with
you, young
3:15:38
people. You think you just fell
off a coconut tree.
3:15:42
I think that sounds pretty good.
3:15:46
Every single day,
3:15:48
pick up the kids and pay your
bills,
3:15:52
look lost and confused, so she'd
lower everyone's income. Yes,
3:15:56
I think that sounds pretty good.
3:15:59
Is that a good thing?
3:16:00
That is a good thing.
3:16:01
You think you just fell out of a
coconut tree?
3:16:04
Who the hell is in charge? I
3:16:06
don't know what's wrong with you
young people, because she is
3:16:10
smart and she is more reliable.
Who
3:16:13
the hell is in charge? What
3:16:15
do you think about Donald Trump?
3:16:17
He started World war three?
3:16:20
Yeah, yeah. That's just not
true.
3:16:22
You think you just fell out of a
coconut tree?
3:16:26
I think that sounds pretty good.
The leader, who's
3:16:30
tough, tested,
3:16:32
yeah, yeah, that's
3:16:33
just not true. A total badass,
Sam, you
3:16:35
think you just fell out of a
3:16:37
coconut tree?
3:16:40
Look lost and confused,
3:16:42
so she lowered everyone's
income. Everything is in
3:16:44
context.
3:16:48
Adam Curry: Is that a good
thing?
3:16:49
Unknown: That is a good thing.
You think
3:16:51
you just fell out of the coconut
tree. They
3:16:55
don't care about me at all, at
all, at all.
3:16:59
Who the hell is in charge
3:17:00
because she is smart and she's
more reliable. They don't want
3:17:05
a population of citizens capable
of critical thinking. They don't
3:17:09
want well informed, well
educated people capable of
3:17:12
critical thinking. They're not
interested in that. That doesn't
3:17:14
help them.
3:17:15
That's against their interest.
That's great.
3:17:17
I don't know what's wrong with
you young people.
3:17:20
The leader who's tough. Hey,
this
3:17:23
scorching heat is is happening
globally, in Canada, and it's
3:17:28
unrelenting.
3:17:30
And one climate scientist at
Berkeley, you may have read
3:17:34
this, Dave said that this is
absolutely Gob, smackingly
3:17:37
bananas. And that's coming
3:17:40
Adam Curry: from a scientist. Oh
no, a scientist used the word
3:17:43
gobsmack.
3:17:45
Unknown: Yeah, malicious
malaria, mosquitoes are back.
3:17:48
Another gates invention with
this theory a mental attack
3:17:51
stick a thermometer in this
Jacuzzi. Planet scorching,
3:17:54
torrential roti. I think I know
who planned it. Gobsmackingly
3:17:58
bananas. Ocean's a hot tub, and
now they want to cancel winter
3:18:01
in Canada. It's pretty chilly
here all year. Survey everything
3:18:05
and stop almost nothing. Old is
the new fear. What's the cost
3:18:08
for you? Citizenship, my boss,
3:18:10
Adam Curry: it's a Jacuzzi
planet. I'm
3:18:12
Unknown: so cross claiming
privacy is necessary to protect
3:18:15
the neck only real way to keep
the masses really in check,
3:18:18
because they don't really rally,
distracted with the day to day,
3:18:22
the grind. I mean, the dreck.
They don't really rally.
3:18:26
Distracted with the day to day,
the grind and the dreck, global
3:18:29
citizen, never made sense to me.
You can only live your life as a
3:18:33
private, sovereign entity. Can
we all agree collectivism over
3:18:36
your individuality is a hell of
a schism if
3:18:40
John C Dvorak: you're going to
stick a thermometer in the
3:18:43
planet, yeah, to get an accurate
temperature, wouldn't you stick
3:18:46
it into into the planet's
butthole, or Toronto, as it
3:18:51
were,
3:18:51
Adam Curry: I already made,
sorry.
3:18:58
Unknown: I think that, listen,
we today is actually, I believe,
3:19:03
an anniversary, in terms of Dr
King, right? And, and we, I was
3:19:09
just in Selma, and we
celebrated, to acknowledge the
3:19:13
59th anniversary of the Bloody
Sunday. I think it's really
3:19:17
important that we as Americans
always embrace our history, the
3:19:21
parts that we're proud of, and
the parts that we're not proud
3:19:25
of, but that we can't forget.
And we should all agree that we
3:19:31
should teach history. We should
learn history if we're to ever
3:19:34
have an accurate idea of where
we want to go and where we don't
3:19:38
want to go in the future, and
that means also acknowledging
3:19:44
the importance of diversity. It
means acknowledging the
3:19:47
importance of the fact that
everyone should have an equal
3:19:51
opportunity to compete and
equity. And of course, includes,
3:19:55
you know, hey, let's look around
the room and see who's not here.
3:19:59
And. Did we leave the door open?
3:20:01
Kamala, you've done a horrible
job. You've been the worst vice
3:20:06
president in the history of our
country. Kamala,
3:20:10
you're fired. You're
3:20:12
fired. Get out.
3:20:13
Get out. Yes. Queen, yes. Queen,
3:20:15
this podcast is on
3:20:22
universe. Podcast.org/n, a,
3:20:28
this is blatant
3:20:30
sexism. I.