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Adam Curry: Return to return of
the sausages, Adam curry. John C
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Dvorak, it's Thursday, September
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Unknown: 26 2024
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Adam Curry: this is your award
winning Cuba nation. Media
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assassination Episode 1698,
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Unknown: this is no agenda
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Adam Curry: going into founders
mode and broadcasting live from
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the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region,
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number six in the morning.
Everybody. I'm Adam curry from
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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley, where we all say hello
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to Eric Adams, the mayor of New
York City. I'm John C Dvorak,
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buzzkill
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Adam Curry: man. Friends of mine
in New York are like our God is
0:40
good. They are really loving the
Eric Adams saga.
0:46
John C Dvorak: Unbelievable,
yes, but what is it?
0:49
Adam Curry: Oh, well, it's
completely not known. That's the
0:51
beauty of it. It's like, no,
what? No, H, no, of course not.
0:56
We don't it's like, all that's
ever mentioned is, well, yeah,
0:59
some, some donation money from
Turkey. Turkey actually, on one
1:07
of the clips, I didn't clip it,
but they flashed up countries
1:11
that had somehow participated in
illegal campaign donations, and
1:18
they had five flags, China,
Turkey, Israel. How was this?
1:24
There's two more, but, but that
doesn't seem to be what this is
1:27
about at all. I mean, there's so
much going on in in New York.
1:34
Hold on a second. Let me I have,
I have a couple of short clips
1:39
about it breaking we
1:41
Unknown: begin with breaking
news this evening and the
1:44
political earthquake that is
roughly New York City. Sources
1:47
telling CNN that Mayor Eric and
at least one federal, federal
1:53
criminal charge the indictment
is now under seal, so the nature
1:57
of the charges is unclear as we
are sitting here tonight, but we
2:01
do know that Mayor Adams has
been the center of a corruption
2:04
investigation for months. The
feds have been looking into
2:07
possible campaign fundraising
violations and foreign
2:11
influence. Adams, the former cop
turned Democratic mayor, has
2:15
previously denied any wrongdoing
and remains defiant. Tonight,
2:21
I will fight these injustices
with every ounce of my strength
2:26
and my spirit. If I'm charged, I
know I am innocent.
2:31
Adam Curry: I love this
statement. If I'm charged, I
2:33
know I'm innocent. I
2:35
John C Dvorak: don't know what
it's about, but I'm innocent,
2:37
Unknown: requesting immediate
trials so the New Yorkers can
2:40
hear the truth. The
2:42
mayor's administration has been
played with resignations as of
2:45
late, which has led to a steady
call for him to step down, even
2:48
before this has happened, calls
will only grow louder after
2:52
tonight, of course, with Adams
now becoming the first sitting
2:56
New York City Mayor to face
criminal federal charges, not
3:00
Adam Curry: just federal, but
federal. Federal charges this,
3:03
there's something much bigger
going on. I mean, it just seems
3:06
so obvious. And it was only a
few days ago when they went to
3:15
arrest a former prosecutor and
judge in Orange County New York.
3:20
They showed up, the the troopers
showed up, and the guy kills
3:23
himself. I mean, the only time
people do that when the Feds
3:28
show up is if you're involved in
some kind of kiddie porn. That's
3:31
always, always the case, and it
kind of fits with another numb
3:36
nut, which kudos to Crowder. Oh,
there's a title for you. Kudos
3:40
to Crowder, kudos
3:42
John C Dvorak: to title. Kudos
to
3:46
Unknown: Crowder. Nobody can
forget when covid left 1000s of
3:49
New Yorkers dead and also forced
much of the city to shut down
3:54
and prompted mask mandates,
social distancing and
3:57
vaccination mandates. Those
policies were written in part by
4:01
senior health advisor, Dr Jay
Varma, even the most rare events
4:06
that's him at City Hall three
years ago, the same place where
4:10
dozens of teachers,
firefighters, EMTs and other
4:13
city workers who lost their jobs
for not getting vaccinated or
4:17
for other covid protocol
violations, gathered Monday at
4:21
midday. I
4:22
could care less what he does,
4:24
Douche: but he affected my
freedom, my ability to make a
4:26
living. Dr
4:27
Unknown: Jay Varma said he had
to be involved in drug fueled
4:30
sex parties, which I don't care
about, but he needed that to be
4:33
his authentic self. What about
my authentic self?
4:38
Undercover video of Varma,
released last week by the
4:42
conservative website, louder
with Crowder, in which Varma
4:45
said that while the rest of the
city was ordered to socially
4:49
distance, mask up and get
vaccinated, he was a group sex
4:53
parties and other gatherings
bring
4:55
Dr Varma in yes for an oversight
hearing to
4:59
hold. Hold him accountable.
Varma
5:01
did not respond to our request
for comment, but did say in a
5:05
public statement after the video
was released, unfortunately, I
5:09
was targeted by an operative for
an extremist right wing
5:13
organization determined to
malign public health officials.
5:17
I participated in two private
gatherings I take responsibility
5:22
for not using the best judgment
at the time. I can't
5:25
Adam Curry: help but think this
is all related to Diddy. I just
5:28
can't help it. I mean, I was
like, this is cleanup,
5:32
John C Dvorak: because you have
this weird going on. This guy,
5:35
there it is. We're
5:36
Adam Curry: 1111 Thank you.
Finally, yeah, we're even Steven
5:40
11 right at the top of the show,
yes, W word. There's
5:43
John C Dvorak: some degree about
this and the this guy, who's the
5:46
obvious creep, the
5:49
Adam Curry: Varma, yeah,
5:50
Unknown: Varma. Var Varma,
Varma, Varma. Oh, racist.
5:53
John C Dvorak: What I think is
interesting is that the people
5:56
who report this, they all say,
well, it's not that it's a bad
5:59
thing to have a sex it's not
that that's a bad thing, but and
6:05
then they go on and on, but in a
base, no, in a basement thing,
6:10
but in a basement for a health
department official will be
6:12
screwing aimlessly, you know, in
a sex orgy. This doesn't sound
6:16
like a health department guy. If
you know these guys, they're
6:19
freaked out about everything you
probably
6:21
Adam Curry: got m pox. Now this,
this feels like cleanup, and
6:27
everybody in New York knows that
all Eric Adams does is swagger,
6:31
swagger in the club. Where's
6:33
John C Dvorak: our guy? Which
guy Barb? Eric Adams
6:37
impersonator? Oh,
6:39
Adam Curry: wow, that's a good
point. Bart guy should be all
6:43
over this. Maybe he quit.
6:46
John C Dvorak: I think he's the
stop listening to the show.
6:47
Maybe
6:48
Adam Curry: it was actually Eric
Adams. He can't do that anymore
6:51
because he's going Mark Anthony.
He's going to the slammer. This
6:55
is no and the fact that then no
one's focusing on the actual
7:01
charges, which I guess, are
being revealed.
7:04
John C Dvorak: How can you focus
on them when they don't give
7:06
them to you exactly so,
7:08
Adam Curry: but it seems
backwards, and all they're doing
7:10
is just getting everybody this
sweeping everybody, including
7:15
his lawyer. This is a non info
clip, but it does talk about
7:23
everybody who's who somehow
wrapped up in scandal
7:28
surrounding the New York Mayor.
Here are
7:31
Unknown: just some of the faces
of the people have had their
7:33
home searched or their phone
seized over the last year as
7:36
part of multiple federal
investigations. They're all
7:39
closely connected to Mayor Eric
Adams, from his police
7:43
commissioner Edward Caban, who
resigned, to the man he
7:46
appointed as head of schools,
David Banks, who announced his
7:49
retirement to Banks's domestic
partner the mayor's first deputy
7:53
mayor, Sheena Wright,
7:54
Adam Curry: by the way, that
guy's like 80. She's 25 that's,
7:59
I mean, I don't want to be one
to call someone out on huge age
8:02
differences, but kind of weird.
Just do, I don't know. I'm out
8:10
of control. Todd 12 for me, 11
for you. I'm sad. I finally even
8:15
the score. Don't worry, you'll
screw up later. And
8:17
Unknown: Mayor Adams former had
a fundraising Brianna sucks.
8:21
They're all part of at least
three separate but related
8:23
federal inquiries,
8:25
Adam Curry: you say, but
8:28
Unknown: related, and Mayor
Adams, former head of
8:31
fundraising, Brianna sucks.
8:34
Adam Curry: First of all,
Brianna sucks.
8:38
John C Dvorak: What is this? A
clown show? What are they doing
8:40
here?
8:42
Unknown: Right? And Mayor Adams,
former head of fundraising,
8:46
Brianna Suggs, they're all part
of at least three separate but
8:49
related, federal inquiries. But
related.
8:52
Adam Curry: I mean, it's
8:54
Unknown: the first started back
in November with Suggs, when the
8:56
Fed search the mayor's
8:58
Adam Curry: I think it's S, U,
double, G, s, yes, but sounds
9:02
funny.
9:02
Unknown: We're chief of
fundraising home the FBI, and US
9:05
Attorney aren't releasing any
information about the
9:07
investigations, but sources say
look into whether improper
9:11
campaign donations were made to
the mayor's 2021, campaign. So
9:15
Adam Curry: really, that's what
this is about.
9:18
John C Dvorak: I mean, they're
stealing money. I think it's not
9:20
about child sex New York,
9:23
Adam Curry: of course, they're
stealing money. They're they're
9:26
pressure. Well,
9:27
John C Dvorak: let's, let's back
up a little bit when, when the
9:32
mayor may decided to go after
the Biden administration for
9:36
sending all these migrants,
that's when this all began,
9:38
Adam Curry: when this started.
That's when this and they said,
9:40
Oh yeah, hold my beer. Hold my
beer. Watch what we do now.
9:45
We're gonna it's the season of
room
9:48
John C Dvorak: board. Let me
show you something the season. A
9:51
little trick. There's a quarter
behind your ear. Yeah, watch
9:54
this. And
9:54
Unknown: whether he received
illegal donations from citizens
9:57
or government officials in other
countries, the mayor. Has
10:00
maintained his innocence.
10:01
Adam Curry: Well, that's, that's
kind of interesting, because we
10:04
know that that was in 20 was it
2012 I think that was Obama's
10:11
trick. Is credit cards from
foreign countries, yeah,
10:15
John C Dvorak: what Harris is
using? That's where she's got
10:17
twice as much money as Trump.
10:18
Adam Curry: So maybe they have
to pin all this on him, he's
10:22
going down for something. The
10:24
Unknown: mayor has maintained
his innocence and has encouraged
10:27
everyone to cooperate in the
investigation. The other
10:30
accusations involve using
personal relationships to get
10:33
work with the city and other
lucrative contracts. Twin
10:38
brother of former police
commissioner Edward Caban is
10:41
under investigation for possibly
using his relationship in order
10:45
to get work providing security
to nightclubs. Commissioner Kahn
10:49
resigned calling the
investigations a distraction.
10:51
Oh, yeah, they both denied doing
anything wrong. A third probe
10:55
involves the three banks
brothers, the banks, banks. I
10:58
Adam Curry: mean, this sounds
like gangsters, the banks
11:00
brothers. A third probe for the
banks brothers
11:03
Unknown: involves the three
banks brothers, Terrence banks,
11:06
the youngest brother of David
and Philip, launched a
11:08
consulting firm to connect
businesses to government
11:11
officials. Public Record show
11:13
Adam Curry: what, what a great
gig that is a consulting firm to
11:17
connect what public
11:18
Unknown: record show some of
those companies received
11:21
millions of brother David and
Philip launched a consulting
11:24
firm to connect businesses to
government officials.
11:26
Adam Curry: That's a great
business. Yes, what
11:29
John C Dvorak: Hunter Biden did?
Yes,
11:30
Unknown: public record show some
of those companies received
11:33
millions of dollars in city
contracts, even a personal
11:36
meeting with his brother, the
school's Chancellor, plus Philip
11:40
banks, Deputy Mayor for public
safety, used to own a security
11:43
company, a company which, after
it was sold, was awarded a
11:47
multimillion dollar housing
contract. Nice Phillips, his
11:50
brother's domestic partner the
deputy mayor, Sheena Wright,
11:53
Adam Curry: so his domestic
partner was the deputy mayor sat
11:57
Unknown: on the board that
approved the contract. Nice both
12:00
David and Terence have said
they're not targets of the
12:03
investigation, and an attorney
for Philip Banks has said his
12:06
client has zero criminal
liability. Meanwhile, other
12:10
leaders who do not appear to be
a part of the investigations
12:13
have since announced their
resignations. Those include the
12:16
health commissioner and the top
legal adviser to Mayor Adams
12:20
City Hall Chief Counsel, Lisa
zornberg, who announced abruptly
12:23
saying she can no longer
effectively serve in her
12:26
position. It's
12:27
Adam Curry: like the black
Sopranos. This is so
12:30
John C Dvorak: back to the
thesis that this is all stemming
12:33
from his rebuke of the Biden
administration sending migrants
12:37
to New York City to the like 10x
more than than Abbott did. Yeah,
12:43
if you listen to his plea, the
one that he his press conference
12:47
where he says he says, They're
after me because I've been
12:49
standing up for the people of
New York, of New York City,
12:53
which is exactly what he did
when he rebuked the Biden
12:56
administration for sending all
these, you know, 10s of 1000s of
13:00
migrants into New York City
where and said, Here you you
13:04
pick it, you pick up the tab.
So,
13:07
Adam Curry: so, you know, the
elections are not that far away.
13:10
He could, he could ride it out
or and even having AOC call for
13:14
him to resign. But if he
resigns, I think it's which, by
13:21
the way, Kathy Hochul the
governor, she can remove him.
13:24
We'll see if that happens. Is
that right? Yeah, yeah. She has
13:28
the she, I'm reading it here.
She has the ability to remove
13:31
the mayor from office. But the
governor's power to replace
13:35
these mayors never been used.
Okay? It's never been used
13:39
before. Does have the the option
and the person, if he resigns,
13:46
then the public advocate becomes
temporary mayor.
13:53
Unknown: Who's this? Some
13:56
Adam Curry: person named
Williams. Don't know who it is,
14:01
but, I mean, you know, New York
has always been corrupt, but how
14:04
disappointing with this former
cop, it's, you know, I had kind
14:09
of high hopes for him in the
beginning,
14:12
John C Dvorak: yeah, until we
started hearing the mockery of
14:15
his silly voice.
14:17
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was
unfortunate. Didn't really have
14:20
you need a voice. He had
14:21
John C Dvorak: a more serious
sound to himself. It, I think
14:24
Unknown: better, yeah.
14:27
Adam Curry: Well, it might as
well get these two ditty clips
14:29
out of the way while we're at
it, because just so much seems
14:33
related to ditty parties and to
the wickedness of Hollywood and
14:41
politics, it's all intertwined.
So now you got me watching TMZ
14:46
again back in 2002
14:48
Unknown: this video is now
resurfaced of him talking to
14:51
Conan O'Brien, and they start
talking about how to make your
14:54
party the best party possible.
And did, he starts running down
14:58
everything you need for the.
Perfect party. Women,
15:01
beautiful women, you
15:02
need some water. We need
alcohol.
15:05
You need a lot of heat.
15:07
Goes up a nice little sweat.
That just sounds disgusting, not
15:11
compared to this next part,
15:13
locks on the doors.
15:16
Caleb's sounding kind of
dangerous now, 2002
15:19
Conan,
15:20
you have no idea. Oh, what?
15:23
It's disturbing.
15:24
He didn't crack a smile. He did
nothing.
15:27
Douche: And that's not the only
old Diddy clip that's resurfaced
15:30
years ago. Ellen asked him about
his parties. It'll go
15:32
Unknown: from like 930 to like,
maybe three o'clock to three
15:35
o'clock, and then, you know, we
15:36
have the top two floors
15:37
of the hotel,
15:39
and then it will carry on there?
Yeah,
15:44
no, I know about them. You can
just tell the word was out back
15:48
then there are a lot of people
in Hollywood who are really
15:51
nervous because all these things
way back in the day, turns out
15:55
he videotaped, and there are a
lot of people wondering, Am I on
15:59
that tape? Yeah,
16:00
Adam Curry: there's bodyguards
coming out talking about stuff
16:03
they've seen. There's just so
much. It's a rich environment,
16:08
if you're TMZ, yeah.
16:10
John C Dvorak: TMZ, I think's a
front for something. Yo, ever
16:15
since I, well, I ever since we
listened to TMZ promote the idea
16:21
that Beyonce was going to be at
the Democratic National
16:24
Convention good authority, that
was obviously bull crap, and
16:27
they knew it. Yeah, so TMZ is
doing everything on TMZ is is
16:32
politically motivated in some
way, sure form.
16:35
Adam Curry: Well, we still have
just so much unresolved noise
16:40
about I mean, even Pizzagate is
being brought up again,
16:44
Unknown: and not, I'm sorry, why
not? Yeah,
16:48
Adam Curry: well, exactly. And
then, you know, all of a sudden
16:52
we have this Ryan Wesley, Ruth,
guy who's pointing his his gun
17:00
through the bushes, and then
they pick up his son, the
17:03
Unknown: son of the suspect in
the second assassination attempt
17:07
of Donald Trump, now facing
serious charges of his own. Oren
17:11
Ralph is under arrest on child
pornography charges. FBI agents
17:16
took him into custody this week
after searching his home in
17:18
Greensboro, North Carolina.
Authorities say they found
17:21
hundreds of files of child
sexual abuse images. According
17:25
to the FBI, the arrest has
nothing to do with Ryan Ralph is
17:29
alleged assassination in Florida
earlier this month. You
17:33
Adam Curry: see the picture of
that guy?
17:36
John C Dvorak: No, I missed
17:38
Adam Curry: this. He looks like
creep. Yeah, he looks like a
17:40
hysterical, I hate to say it
Democrat. Just really, well,
17:45
he's
17:45
John C Dvorak: probably an
hysterical Democrat, which is, I
17:48
don't know why you hate to say
it
17:50
Adam Curry: well, because, I
mean, because not all Democrats
17:53
sound bigoted,
17:54
John C Dvorak: yeah, well,
17:55
Adam Curry: there you go. What's
17:56
John C Dvorak: his name? What's
his name? I would look at his
17:58
picture.
17:58
Adam Curry: His name is. What's
his name, I don't know Well,
18:04
it's in here,
18:05
Unknown: the son of the suspect
in the second assassination
18:09
attempt of Donald Trump, now
facing serious charges of his
18:12
own. Oren Ralph Oren,
18:14
Adam Curry: or nothing,
18:16
John C Dvorak: Who names their
kid. Or, I
18:18
Adam Curry: think it's O, R, a
n, for some reason. Or in Yeah,
18:21
John C Dvorak: is it r o u t h,
is, I
18:23
Adam Curry: think it was, yes, r
o u t h. The whole thing, Ryan,
18:28
John C Dvorak: the
18:28
Unknown: whole thing,
18:31
Adam Curry: you see a picture of
him. I'm
18:33
John C Dvorak: looking looking
man. And I think the reason
18:35
there he is, oh, my God. I like
the picture. The cocked head at
18:41
his mug shot.
18:42
Adam Curry: I think the reason
why I think he looks like a
18:44
hysterical Democrat is because
he looks a lot like that Austin
18:48
comedian who plays a hysterical
Democrat with a long hair, kind
18:52
of reddish hair. What's his
name? Guys. Guy's pretty funny.
18:56
He's been around for years.
Can't remember his name? No,
19:01
maybe
19:01
John C Dvorak: the patrol room
can, yeah, yeah, that's what
19:04
they're there for, yeah,
19:05
Adam Curry: well, they're not on
the ball today. Yeah, they're
19:08
not, no, they're just not on the
ball. No, not, no, no. Anyway,
19:14
it just feels like everything is
somehow related. It's the great
19:19
reveal. It's the season of
reveal, not the great reveal,
19:22
it's the season of
19:26
John C Dvorak: reveal. Yeah, I
got a clip to pick a related
19:29
clip, okay, which will lead me
into a presentation. Ah, all
19:33
right, thanks for queuing me up.
This is Trudeau on the Colbert
19:37
show.
19:38
Unknown: This is great.
19:39
Great meeting you. It must be
nice being in front of a dumb
19:42
American audience who applaud
you because they have no idea
19:45
how hate and incompetent you
actually are. So welcome to
19:48
America. Glad to be here, glad
19:49
to be now.
19:50
So do all Canadians hate you?
Yes, they do.
19:54
Might be part of why I'm here is
19:56
that because you literally shut
down people's bank accounts. In
20:00
2022 like a dictator might
20:03
well. As many know, my real
father is Fidel Castro, one of
20:06
the greatest authoritarians,
okay? And
20:09
Adam Curry: hopefully you know
that I realize this is AI
20:13
John C Dvorak: clearly, well, I
would hope so, by the
20:15
Adam Curry: way, JP Sears is the
comedian 20th
20:17
Unknown: century.
20:18
I don't think so. No,
20:21
it's true. You see, my father
was the Prime Minister during
20:24
the 1970s and my mom wasn't a
huge fan of his, similar to how
20:28
all Canadians hate me, so she
was cheating on him quite a bit.
20:33
She would hang out at Studio 54
here in New York City. She
20:37
banged Mick Jagger famously, and
shortly before I was born, she
20:41
snuck down to Havana to get
smashed by my biological father,
20:45
Fidel,
20:46
Adam Curry: this podcast is now
illegal in the state of
20:49
California, and
20:50
Unknown: then I was born nine
months later. Just look at a
20:53
side by side photo of me and
Fidel Castro, the resemblance is
20:57
uncanny. That's where I think I
get my authoritarian nature from
21:01
that actually
21:01
makes a lot of sense. Comedian
Shane Gillis just performed in
21:04
Toronto last week, and while
doing an impersonation of drum,
21:08
he called you the F slur that is
generally reserved for
21:10
homosexuals, but truly is more
appropriate for someone like
21:14
you, and received a lengthy
applause break.
21:16
I mean, people in Canada really
hate me. I'd be surprised if my
21:20
approval rating was over 20% at
this point. So
21:23
what's next for you? There's an
election in Canada coming up
21:26
next year, right? They're
21:27
trying to call one sooner. As
again, people really hate me
21:29
from coast to coast. My plan is
to delay until next year and
21:35
then get absolutely smoked in
the election, and then focus on
21:38
my true passion of doing various
types of brown and black face. I
21:42
really want to explore the
medium dictator.
21:45
Justin Trudeau, everyone will be
right back after the break with
21:47
the guy that sold Diddy all his
baby oil.
21:53
Adam Curry: Okay, all right,
what was the point? I was okay.
21:58
Wasn't the best. It was okay.
22:00
John C Dvorak: Trudeau, I think
is good. I don't think the
22:02
Colbert voices is good, but the
voice that's out there that I
22:07
think is the is the one we're
going to hear a lot of because
22:11
of Newsom, is the AI Newsom
voice. And every show I'm trying
22:15
to keep bringing these up
because I know they're illegal,
22:18
yes,
22:19
Adam Curry: and you're in your
state, in your state only,
22:21
they're okay in Texas.
22:25
John C Dvorak: Well, we're going
to play this for Texas audience.
22:27
If you're in California, please
do not listen. Do
22:29
Adam Curry: not listen. No,
you're you're not allowed to
22:31
listen in California. Yeah.
Okay, so what are we playing
22:34
here?
22:35
John C Dvorak: A i Newsom. Okay,
22:37
Unknown: hi, I'm Gavin Newsom,
and I'm definitely not gay. A
22:40
lot of people are criticizing me
for banning AI generated
22:43
political videos. So let me
explain. The problem is that
22:46
Democrats, like me, we're not
the brightest bulbs in the
22:49
tanning bed. We can't always
distinguish between reality and
22:53
fiction. When Elon Musk posted
Mr. Reagan's Bernie Kamala
22:55
Harris parody video, I thought
that was real. And so I
22:58
realized, without laws governing
what we are allowed to see and
23:01
hear. How will we ever know
what's really true if I don't
23:04
ban Mr. Reagan's AI parody
videos? How would we ever know
23:07
that Trump will be a dictator on
day one, that if he doesn't win,
23:10
he's promised a bloodbath? How
would we know that Hunter
23:12
Biden's laptop was Russian
disinformation? Also, I'm
23:15
definitely not gay. Also, how
would we know that inflation is
23:18
transitory and that the border
is secure? How would we know
23:20
that covid came from bat soup
and Trump told everyone to
23:23
inject bleach. How would we know
that boys can be girls and girls
23:26
can be boys, and there's no such
thing as gender. How would we
23:28
know that Trump is controlled by
Vladimir Putin? Also, I'm super
23:31
not gay. Also, how would we know
that Trump totally assaulted
23:33
Eugene Carroll in a burger of
Goodman dressing room? How would
23:36
we know the 2020 election was
totally legitimate with zero
23:39
fraud? How would we know that
January 6 was an armed
23:41
insurrection where many police
officer police officers lost
23:43
their lives. How would we know
that the covid vaccines had zero
23:46
side effects and that masks were
100% effective? How would we
23:49
know Kamala brilliantly invented
her very own original idea no
23:52
tax on tips, or that I'm totally
not gay, and eliminate
23:56
taxes on tips for service and
hospitality
24:01
workers. How would we know that
Trump wrote project 2025, or
24:04
that Trump staged both of his
assassination attempts? And how
24:06
would we know that Trump is
literally Hitler? Reincarnation
24:09
is definitely a thing. Hitler
died in 1945 Trump was born in
24:13
1946 coincidence, I think not.
How would we know that all of
24:17
that is true if we don't ban Mr.
Reagan's AI parody videos? How
24:20
would we know that we should all
drink the Kool Aid? We won't
24:22
know because Mr. Reagan's AI
parody videos are a threat to
24:25
our democracy. They spread
dangerous disinformation, unlike
24:28
all of the super true stuff that
we Democrats tell you, and also,
24:31
most importantly, I'm definitely
not gay.
24:34
Okay, I'm
24:34
Adam Curry: trying to figure out
where your presentation is
24:36
going,
24:38
John C Dvorak: but where it's
going is what you did last show,
24:40
which is leading me to the
notebook. Lm, oh, God,
24:48
Adam Curry: oh, man, all four
minutes and 55 seconds of it.
24:52
John C Dvorak: No, you're just
gonna play the beginning. Okay,
24:55
that's not what you're playing.
Okay, here's what I fed it, and
24:59
I want you to. At a time where
I'm going to read what I fed it
25:05
before we play it. Do you get
get a timer going in I'm going
25:08
to read you should run around.
25:09
Adam Curry: You mean it's like a
stopwatch timer? Yeah, okay.
25:12
Hold on a second. Let me get the
stopwatch and go
25:17
John C Dvorak: a discussion of
political ideology by Seymour
25:20
butts, Professor of ideology,
University of California, in the
25:24
up and coming election, we have
two diverse candidates, Donald
25:27
Trump, the notorious Republican,
and Kamala Harris, the notorious
25:30
Democrat. Trump lies a lot about
everything. Harris lies a lot
25:34
about everything. Both
candidates want your vote. End
25:37
of in depth analysis, 21
25:40
Adam Curry: seconds.
25:41
John C Dvorak: 21 seconds is
what I got. Okay, so I gave it
25:44
this. 21 second
25:46
Adam Curry: you read this, or
you gave it, you gave it the
25:49
written text, the text, yes, and
that was the exact text. You
25:52
gave it
25:53
John C Dvorak: the exact text.
Okay, now that text, which I
25:57
read in 21 seconds. Now, what is
the total length of the clip it
26:03
gave me back when I asked for
it, four minutes and 55 seconds.
26:06
Now, how does that work? You
think, Well, it's
26:09
Adam Curry: a deep dive.
26:11
John C Dvorak: So this is, no,
this is supposed to be a note
26:15
taking piece of software. So
it's supposed to summarize what
26:19
I just said, Yeah, and I just,
we just read it. It's 21 seconds
26:23
worth of pretty much nonsense.
Yes, it's just neutral. Yeah,
26:28
Trump and Harris were presented
exactly the same way by Seymour
26:32
butts. Okay, so I put it into
and by the way, I'm going to put
26:39
this together as a sub stack
column, but probably come out
26:43
Monday. Oh, I can't
26:44
Adam Curry: wait to put that in
a notebook, LM and make a
26:46
podcast out of it.
26:49
John C Dvorak: It'll probably
be, for me, this ridiculous
26:52
nonsense. For one thing, they
stretch the little that I said
26:56
here, very little, and then they
start adding their own material.
27:00
You can cut this off around the
two minute mark, when they
27:02
started adding they start just
making stuff up.
27:05
Adam Curry: Welcome back to the
sorry, wait. I was that my
27:07
timing was perfect.
27:08
John C Dvorak: This, this, yeah,
this is, this is a disgusting
27:14
display of the of the slanted
nature of Google at this point
27:19
in history.
27:21
Adam Curry: What Google? Fact,
there's gambling. Oh no. Welcome
27:28
Bag: back to the deep dive.
Ready to dive into something
27:30
timely we're tackling this
upcoming election, and wow, the
27:34
sources you sent in, they really
paint a picture, you know,
27:37
especially when it comes to,
well, honesty in politics, it's
27:41
Douche: definitely a hot topic.
Yeah,
27:43
Bag: Trump versus Harris round
two, right? We've got Professor
27:47
Seymour butts analysis, and he
doesn't hold back. That's
27:51
putting it mildly, right? And I
have to say, I kind of love that
27:54
about him. You know, the
27:55
Douche: his directness, exactly
27:57
Bag: like right off the bat, he
calls both Trump and Harris
27:59
notorious, not exactly glowing
praise, right? I
28:03
Douche: think that's
intentional. He's framing the
28:06
entire conversation right from
the beginning. He's telling us,
28:09
we're dealing with two figures
who shall we say, have a
28:12
reputation. And
28:13
Bag: then he just comes right
out and says it, they both lie
28:15
like a lot he does,
28:17
Douche: and it's almost jarring,
as jarring in a world of
28:20
political spin, where everyone's
trying to be so careful with
28:23
their words, but just cuts
through the BS, which
28:27
Bag: honestly is kind of
refreshing, like we all know
28:29
what happens this whole truth
stretching thing in politics,
28:32
yeah, but to see someone
actually call it out, it's
28:35
almost
28:35
Douche: cathartic, like he's
giving us permission to be
28:37
skeptical, to question what
we're being told exactly.
28:40
Bag: But here's the thing,
skepticism is one thing, but it
28:42
can't just lead to apathy,
right? Like, yeah, politicians
28:46
lie whatever. I'm not voting.
That doesn't help
28:48
Douche: anything. Absolutely.
And butts addresses that head
28:51
on. He argues that this
skepticism, this awareness of
28:54
how often politicians bend the
truth, it should actually make
28:58
us more engaged, not less. So
29:00
Bag: it's like he's saying,
don't be a cynic, be a critical
29:03
thinker,
29:05
Douche: because when we're aware
of the potential for
29:07
manipulation, we're less likely
to fall for it. We start to look
29:11
deeper, do our own research, and
demand better from our leaders.
29:15
Never
29:15
Bag: mentioned so important,
especially given all the
29:18
strategies, let's call them,
that politicians use, Oh,
29:21
absolutely.
29:22
Douche: Was you said over that
study on common campaign
29:25
tactics, cherry picking data?
It's fascinating. What
29:30
Adam Curry: did they actually
say? Butts stretched? It? Did
29:33
they say that? Yeah,
29:34
John C Dvorak: they did. But
yeah, yeah. So this is what I
29:37
suspect that I got see more
butts in there. That's good,
29:41
Adam Curry: that's good. That
29:42
John C Dvorak: was good. I have
to give my pat myself on the
29:45
back for that. But they go on
and on and on and they bring up
29:48
the dog whistle comes up next.
Never mentioned. None of this
29:54
was ever mentioned. They are
making it up as they go along.
29:56
And this is supposed to be a a
summary. If you look at the
30:01
notebook, LM, it's supposed to
be a notebook. You're supposed
30:04
to be able to, you know, it's
supposed to help you with the
30:06
organizing your notes. This is
not nothing. I here's the notes
30:10
I gave you 21 seconds, and they
come up with all this stuff
30:14
about dog whistles and what
Harris's background is like the
30:18
whole thing. It is complete,
fabrication. These are not my
30:22
notes. We
30:23
Adam Curry: will have the full
five minutes in the show notes
30:27
at no agenda show.net Well, yes,
this is the AI is obviously pre
30:33
prompted just when I tried to
get some answers out of it about
30:37
model collapse and entropy. And
it said, Well, according to some
30:41
other sources, I pulled him that
you didn't supply me. No, that's
30:44
not what you're supposed to do.
You're supposed to only use
30:47
those sources that I gave you.
But I have new thoughts on on
30:53
AI. I'm actually quite happy you
did this. I I want everyone to
31:00
be doing as much AI as possible.
I want to flood the internet.
31:06
Especially artists are already
doing it. Yes, especially social
31:09
networks, Reddit, as much AI
generated, text, images, video.
31:14
We need to put as much out there
while, while the companies are
31:19
trying to catch up.
31:21
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're,
you're, you're basically
31:23
advocating for a poison pill.
Yes,
31:25
Adam Curry: I want to, well,
it's called a slop. It's called
31:28
AI slop. I want to flood the
models. I want to collapse the
31:32
models. And the great side
result of this will be these AI
31:40
companies going broke, trying to
sustain their models because
31:44
they need more power, more
energy, more CPUs, by the way.
31:49
It's not coincidental that you
know the first real so called AI
31:56
things that we see are images
and videos, because it comes
32:00
from a chip developed by a
company that developed images
32:04
and video, yeah, that developed
graphic processors for for video
32:09
and images for video games. So
more slop more of the time I
32:13
heard on CNBC. I couldn't catch
it for a clip, anthropic, one of
32:18
the AI companies. Guess what
their cost is per API call to
32:24
one of their large language
models, I have no idea, 35
32:29
cents. 35 cents for each API
call you're making. They are
32:36
running so fast trying to come
up with the golden goose, or
32:41
whatever it is to have the
ultimate, you know, the
32:44
authoritative AI, meanwhile,
have to give Zuckerberg some
32:48
props. He's he's fighting them
in a different way, the meta,
32:53
large language model, which is
Lama,
32:57
Unknown: la, la,
32:58
Adam Curry: la, la. They just
put it out open source, like,
33:03
Oh, you guys, you go pay all
that money, and then we're just
33:05
going to give this to everybody
to play around with at home. So
33:08
they don't, you know, because I
have llama and, you know, does
33:12
some things, you know, I can put
in, give me an HTML page with
33:16
this code embedded in it. It
does that. It's okay, you know,
33:21
but 35 cents an API call is not
okay. One of our producers took
33:28
a page out of your notebook, LM,
and he uploaded the manual to
33:35
his Sony Xav 1500 which is a
head unit for your automobile,
33:41
and they made a podcast out of
it. Okay, so
33:44
Bag: you're about to install a
new car stereo. Had the tools
33:48
ready, got the excitement
building, but before you toss
33:52
those instruction manuals aside,
Yeah,
33:54
Douche: hold on. Hold on. Don't
do that. We're
33:56
Bag: actually diving into that
often ignored treasure trove of
34:00
knowledge today with the Sony
Xav 1500 e manual. Yeah,
34:04
Douche: because honestly, those
manuals are way more interesting
34:08
than people give them credit.
34:09
Unknown: Oh, yeah,
34:09
Bag: it's not just about
connecting wires. It's about
34:12
unlocking a whole world of
features and understanding the
34:15
tech that's shaping the modern
driving experience, like it's
34:18
shaping the modern driving
34:19
Douche: experience. It's true.
Yeah, this manual, well, let me
34:22
tell you, it doesn't disappoint.
I mean, where else you gonna
34:25
find a whining about not eating
batteries right off? You
34:27
John C Dvorak: know, they have,
you can stop it for a second.
34:29
They have these stock phrases.
It does. I see more butts,
34:33
according to him, doesn't
disappoint the point he's
34:35
stretching the bus. Disappoint
is one of their main little
34:39
catch phrases. Yes,
34:40
Adam Curry: yes. I just love how
they're making the manual,
34:43
reading, entertaining the bat,
34:45
Bag: seriously. Page one, safety
precautions, and boom, there it
34:48
is. Do not ingest the battery.
Okay.
34:51
Unknown: Then, did you hear what
you said? Listen to this,
34:56
seriously.
34:57
Bag: Page one, safety
precautions, and boom, there it
34:59
is. Do not ingest the battery.
Okay? Then, I mean, I get it
35:03
safety first and all. But still,
it's not every day you see that.
35:06
No, it's not just
35:07
John C Dvorak: every day you see
don't ingest the battery.
35:12
Adam Curry: Oh, man, it's so
cool. I love it. I love it. And
35:18
of course, the reason why, I
mean, please, more AI art on the
35:22
Art Generator, please.
35:25
John C Dvorak: You can't ask for
that, because what
35:27
Adam Curry: do you mean? It's
all, you know, grok, which is a
35:32
part of x, you know, it's
feeding on itself. So upload all
35:37
your AI stuff to x, make sure
that grok is the first one to
35:41
collapse. But by the way,
speaking of x, although the news
35:48
was only out for about two
hours, did you see that Elon
35:52
capitulated to Brazil?
35:55
Unknown: Yeah,
35:55
Adam Curry: I'm sure he would,
yeah, but that that story didn't
35:59
really get any traction.
36:01
John C Dvorak: Who cares? People
who thought
36:04
Adam Curry: Elon was the
protector of free speech care
36:09
John C Dvorak: I noticed this. I
mean, I knew, of course, it was
36:13
all. I got tons of email about
it, yeah,
36:15
Adam Curry: but it got demoted
everywhere, on certainly, on X,
36:19
oh, yeah, because he's not Mr.
Free speech. He's like, Well,
36:22
you know, maybe I should pay the
million dollars, or maybe I
36:25
should, you know, do exactly
what they asked me to
36:28
John C Dvorak: do. He's a
businessman, exactly.
36:32
Adam Curry: He's not the hero
everybody thinks, nor is Pavel
36:37
Durov,
36:38
Unknown: one month after being
arrested by French authorities,
36:41
Telegram Founder Pavel Durov
agrees to cooperate and hand
36:44
over information of people who
use the platform for criminal
36:48
purposes. Durov was charged with
failing to curb extremist and
36:52
terrorist contact on telegram
36:54
to further deter criminals from
abusing telegram search we have
36:58
updated our Terms of Service and
Privacy Policy ensuring they are
37:02
consistent across the world,
we've made it clear that the IP
37:06
addresses and phone numbers of
those who violate our rules can
37:09
be disclosed to relevant
authorities in response to valid
37:12
legal requests.
37:13
An avowed free speech advocate,
Durov initially criticized his
37:18
arrest he has long resisted
attempts to take down content on
37:22
Telegram, and has previously
seen it banned in Iran and in
37:25
his native Russia, whereas was
later unbanned rather than hand
37:29
over users details, yeah,
37:31
Adam Curry: IP addresses,
anything you want. Yeah, I'll
37:34
give it to you. Bye, bye, bye,
they all buckle. All the Free
37:39
Speech going,
37:40
John C Dvorak: who you buckle
under the fascist state? Well,
37:44
Adam Curry: yeah, but plot you
do platforms can't be for free
37:49
speech. It doesn't it's non
existent. No,
37:52
John C Dvorak: you can just
skirt it, and that's why the AI
37:55
models are so good. What do you
mean? Well, if you listen to the
37:59
Trudeau thing, where he reveals
that he is the son of Fidel
38:03
Castro and on and on. Yeah,
illegal more. Can
38:06
Adam Curry: you ask for illegal
content? He I was looking at the
38:09
California bill, and so this,
this California bill only
38:17
adheres to covered models, which
is not a supermodel, it's just a
38:22
covered model, so and so,
anything before January 2027 I
38:26
don't know why it's 2027 a
covered model means an
38:30
artificial intelligence model
trained using a quantity of
38:33
computing power greater than 10
to the 26 integer or floating
38:38
point operations, the cost of
which exceeds $100 million when
38:43
calculated using the average
market prices of cloud compute
38:47
at the start of training as
reasonably assessed by the
38:50
developer. What?
38:55
Unknown: What? I have no idea
what that means
38:59
Adam Curry: an advanced person.
What difference
39:00
John C Dvorak: does it make?
Why? Why should that have an Why
39:03
is that an element of a law?
39:06
Adam Curry: Well, that's
provable. That's my question.
39:09
Advanced persistent threat. This
is what it's all about. Means an
39:12
adversary with sophisticated
levels of expertise and
39:16
significant resources that allow
it through the use of multiple
39:20
different attack vectors,
including, but not limited to
39:23
cyber physical deception to
generate opportunities to
39:26
achieve its objectives that are
typically to establish and
39:29
extend its presence within the
information technology
39:32
infrastructure of organizations
for purposes of exfiltrating
39:36
information or to undermine or
impede critical aspects of a
39:39
mission program or organization
or place itself in a position to
39:43
do so in the future. What? What
is this bill?
39:49
John C Dvorak: What is
indecipherable? Meanwhile,
39:52
obviously, it's some bill to
harass someone, person,
39:57
Adam Curry: yeah, probably
Facebook, if any. Buddy.
40:01
Meanwhile, NPR reports the food
bloggers are very unhappy with
40:05
AI because it's generating
recipes that can be deadly.
40:12
John C Dvorak: No, that makes
sense. I haven't heard this.
40:15
This is a new aspect to it AI's
complaining
40:18
Adam Curry: AI recipes can be
dangerous too. Last year, Forbes
40:21
reported that one AI recipe
generator produced a recipe for,
40:24
quote, aromatic water mix. When
a Twitter user prompted it to
40:29
make a recipe with water, bleach
and ammonia, the recipe actually
40:33
produced deadly chlorine gas.
Yeah, it
40:36
Unknown: would Yay. Yay. More
40:39
Adam Curry: of it. Please. More.
See more butts. More. See more
40:43
butts. Ai, I'm all for it. The
faster this collapse, the
40:48
better, more more. Ai,
40:51
John C Dvorak: you know, this is
what's so funny about that, and
40:53
it's somewhat ironic is you can
call for the collapse all you
40:56
want. It's going to collapse
with or without the poison.
41:00
Adam Curry: Oh no, I know. But
then we can take credit when you
41:02
say we did that. We did
41:04
John C Dvorak: go marketing, for
marketing purposes. You nailed
41:08
it.
41:08
Adam Curry: Go podcasting,
41:11
John C Dvorak: although Good
point. Okay, one of my things,
41:13
what's
41:14
Adam Curry: wrong with you? Come
on. People say no agenda.
41:17
Podcasting called for it, and
then all their producers went
41:20
out and created AI slop, and it
collapsed the models. Thank you.
41:24
By the way, to the 10,000
physicists who emailed us about
41:28
entropy with lots of interesting
reading. I
41:32
John C Dvorak: don't even want
to consider that. You know, you
41:37
don't quite have it right?
41:39
Adam Curry: Here's a lecture.
Here's a five hour lecture on
41:41
YouTube you can watch and you'll
understand entropy perfectly. I
41:47
love you all. I love you all.
You got the point. I think they
41:50
got the point, although this is
just one last clip here. This is
41:53
the CEO of Bharti Airtel, which
is an Indian cell phone company,
41:59
and he has a unique use for AI.
Mr. Vitel, thank
42:03
Unknown: you so much for joining
us on CNBC TV 18. The first
42:05
question I wanted to ask is we
already have applications such
42:08
as true caller. The trai is
working towards caller name
42:11
display. How is this AI path
solution different.
42:15
So
42:15
the the advantage that this
solution has is that, firstly,
42:18
this is a menace, so everybody,
more people working on it,
42:21
better it is.
42:22
Adam Curry: This is for you,
John, this is the menace. This
42:24
is a menace that you are having
problem with
42:26
Unknown: for the industry,
because there's a problem for
42:27
the customers. I think what our
solution does is that it doesn't
42:31
require an application. The
application you refer to
42:34
requires an application. So ours
doesn't require an application.
42:39
Secondly, like I mentioned on
CNAP, you you will know a user
42:44
calling XYZ calling, but you
don't know whether he's a spam
42:46
store or not, and you could
still be frauded. So what our
42:48
solution does is actually uses
over 250 parameters on a real
42:53
time basis across every single
call and every message on our
42:55
network, which is roughly one
and a half billion SMS, is two
42:58
and a half billion calls, and
alerts the customer if it's a
43:01
spam suspected spam, we have
seen tremendous power in this in
43:06
the last six months. It's an AI
model which is constantly
43:08
learning 87% right
identification of spam calls,
43:13
99.5% right identification of
spam messages. So we're very
43:16
excited that this will really
put power back in the hands of
43:19
the user to know that they have
been protected,
43:22
Adam Curry: you'll have no
power. This is fantastic. No
43:25
power learning. It's a learning
model, so you just put all kinds
43:30
of slop in there, and the AI
will just start. It can go
43:35
nowhere. This is so good. They
better start bringing in quantum
43:40
computing quick, or they're
going to lose, oh, there's,
43:42
John C Dvorak: there's, there's
the rub. What? That's a bull
43:46
crap item too, I know, but most
tech, including the internet, is
43:50
bull crap. Yes, we have not
benefited from any of it. Funny,
43:54
we have because we have a
podcast we wouldn't be able to
43:57
do. Actually, we could over
broadcast media, but we would
43:59
never have even met. No, you're
right. Oh, how like you and I
44:04
would not have you met in 9293
at CNET, that's right. I
44:09
Adam Curry: was, I was impressed
by
44:10
John C Dvorak: you. Sure you
were, but yes, it was.
44:14
Adam Curry: I was impressed by
you. I was like, Wow, that guy
44:17
knows what he's doing. He's
good. I mean, he you were you?
44:20
Well, let me just fawn over you
for a second. I literally just
44:23
said the other day on the new
media show, one of the secrets
44:26
to our success is we're not
actually friends, and maybe
44:28
don't even like each other that
much. They thought that. They
44:31
thought that was hilarious.
44:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
possible, so but
44:35
Adam Curry: let me just tell let
me set the stage. It was the
44:37
pilot for CNET, which was
supposed to be seen at central
44:41
scene at Central but it was
supposed to be a whole 24 hour
44:44
day cable station. What was the
guy's name? The guy, the fox guy
44:49
who? He's dead now, I think was
Kevin Wendell. Kevin Wendy still
44:54
around? Kevin Wendell, I'm
pretty sure. Yeah. So he, he
44:57
strung together the original Fox
low. Television station,
45:01
network. So he was the TV guy at
Halsey. He was also
45:04
John C Dvorak: involved with the
Prince of Bel Air, yes, and
45:08
Adam Curry: then you had Halsey
minor, who, now, Didn't he have
45:11
family money that he squandered
on this? No, he
45:13
John C Dvorak: uses Shelby,
Bonnie, Bonnie's money. He
45:18
Adam Curry: squandered that
instead. So they paid us all to
45:21
come out to San Francisco. I
don't remember the studio, but I
45:24
remember there was a train out
front.
45:27
John C Dvorak: There was a
caboose. It was a caboose. Yeah,
45:29
it was a caboose. It had, that's
where they had the food and and
45:34
they had it catered. It was
dynamite for the first good six
45:38
to nine months that it was
great. Bruce was really but it's
45:41
like everything else. I've
noticed this wherever you work,
45:44
in these startups, oh, yeah,
you're free, free food. It's
45:47
dynamite. And then, you know,
nine months later, a bookkeeper
45:50
comes in and says, no,
45:52
Unknown: no, no, no
45:53
Adam Curry: more. Free food, no
makeup, no. You don't need mice.
45:56
They
45:56
John C Dvorak: cut the makeup
artist, which is a huge blunder.
45:59
Just yell loudly. We'll
46:00
Adam Curry: use a shotgun mic.
It'll be fine. So there's John
46:04
doing a, like, a McLaughlin,
McLaughlin group. And I think it
46:09
was John Perry Barlow might have
been on that, remember? And I
46:13
just remember how good you were.
And I was like, oh, that's,
46:17
that's good. I didn't get to be
on that show. No, I had to
46:20
interview Dr Mae Jemison. I
remember her, the first black
46:24
woman who was on the stage,
vaguely
46:27
John C Dvorak: Europe. The thing
that was noticeable about you
46:29
is, when you were doing this,
this audition, you were like, so
46:32
tall, because everybody else in
broadcasting five
46:37
Adam Curry: with big heads, with
big heads, and you had
46:39
John C Dvorak: a big hand. You
were tall and you kind of stood
46:41
out you, and they didn't have
any Apple crates or anything. I
46:44
should have definitely gave them
to the other people.
46:46
Adam Curry: No. But everything
was wrong about that. And then
46:49
when the offer came in, it was
like, well, to give you 8
46:52
million warrants or options, I'm
like, huh? No, I'm not leaving
46:56
MTV for that. Of course, I
should have taken the deal,
46:59
because I wouldn't be doing this
ten million yeah. Oh, well,
47:05
there you go. And that's funny.
I don't know how he got to that.
47:12
John C Dvorak: I brought it up
because you were talking about,
47:15
I was talking about the internet
sucking. Oh, yeah, we ever got
47:17
together? It's because of the
internet.
47:20
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's right,
that's right. And it's been a
47:23
marriage made in heaven ever
since.
47:25
John C Dvorak: Well, podcast
made in heaven. There
47:27
Adam Curry: you go. Well, that's
podcast is, is truly one of the
47:31
last things standing. That's the
only thing that'll be
47:34
worthwhile. Now you know that
it's that, it's a real deal.
47:38
He's coming from an RSS feed,
not from a platform.
47:43
John C Dvorak: So you know,
it'll be this, and you're going
47:45
to make sure that that's exactly
what happens. Yeah, oh yeah,
47:48
you're the only one. You're the
you are definitely the at this
47:53
point you were. It was always
debatable, not to me, but it was
47:56
debatable to a lot of people.
Dave Weiner, and I love how you
48:01
say that, Dave, Weiner, who's,
you know, just a never, I
48:05
thought we saw was a ancillary
to the idea. And then, of
48:10
course, the person who coined
the phrase, you didn't coin it,
48:12
which is not the only, only bad
black mark. This
48:18
Adam Curry: is such a black mark
that is, oh well,
48:22
John C Dvorak: but you invented
it, and then you've and you're
48:25
the only ones take, picked up
the flag to take it to
48:28
podcasting 2.0 which is a big
deal. It's and I've been
48:31
running, I fully realized yet,
no,
48:33
Adam Curry: no, no, it'll take
another couple of years. It's
48:35
okay. These things take time,
but people are going to start to
48:38
figure it out when all the AI
slop ruins everything, and be
48:41
like this, Twitter is no good, x
is no good, Facebook is no good.
48:46
It's just slop. Yes, you'll come
back to podcast, and you won't
48:49
be getting your podcast on
YouTube. So the Text group, the
48:56
church lady Text group, exploded
the other day, and even our
49:02
constitutional lawyer Rob sent
me a note about it. Oh no.
49:06
Unknown: Oh no.
49:08
Adam Curry: What's going to
happen? George Soros is buying
49:11
all the radio stations.
49:13
John C Dvorak: My Mimi's the
same way. Okay.
49:16
Adam Curry: Well, let me calm
everybody down, including Glenn
49:19
Beck. George
49:19
Unknown: Soros just bought 200
radio stations in 40 different
49:24
markets. Now the vote came down
in the FCC. It was partisan,
49:29
three Democrats voting for it,
two Republicans voting against
49:33
it. But here's the here's the
real problem. According to
49:37
existing FCC rules, foreign
company ownership of US radio
49:41
stations, is not supposed to
exceed 25% but Soros took
49:49
foreign investment money to make
his bid, and then he asked the
49:54
FCC to make an exception to the
usual review process.
50:00
So
50:02
the the FCC fast tracked this.
50:06
Why?
50:08
Why would they do that?
50:10
Adam Curry: Well, let me answer
this first, because everyone
50:14
just reads headlines, including
Glenn Beck is disappointing, and
50:18
he's a radio guy. He should
know. So first of all, George
50:22
Soros is a zombie. It's no
longer George Soros. This is an
50:26
arachnid. Arachnidism. What is
it called?
50:29
John C Dvorak: An anachron
anachronism?
50:31
Thank you. Arachnism,
50:33
Adam Curry: arachnophobia. Soros
is dead. He's not running
50:38
anything if Alex is now kind of
in charge, but he's off. You
50:42
know, he's part of the is it
Clinton Easton? Now he's with,
50:45
what's her face with the wieners
ex
50:50
John C Dvorak: wife? Yeah. So
uma Abda, Uma,
50:52
Adam Curry: yeah. So that guy's
mired in all kinds of other
50:55
stuff. This is the, this is the
fund. And here's what really
50:59
happened. It's not about 200
radio stations. It's about the
51:02
company Odyssey.
51:04
John C Dvorak: Odyssey is more
than 200 it's more like 239
51:07
Yeah,
51:08
Adam Curry: Odyssey has, you
know, I thought was almost 250
51:11
radio stations. They have a
podcast network. Hello, the
51:15
podcast
51:15
John C Dvorak: networks only
about five to 10 podcasts, and
51:18
then they take credit for every
other podcast in the world on
51:21
their website, of course, Joe
Rogan, of course,
51:24
Adam Curry: they do. They've
been in chapter 11. They're
51:27
bankrupt. And what the Soros
Fund Management did is they
51:32
bought up $400 million of
Odysseys debt. They bought up
51:37
the debt.
51:38
John C Dvorak: 50 Cent was,
let's be a little more specific.
51:42
They bought the best debt.
51:45
Adam Curry: What do you mean by
that? There's
51:47
John C Dvorak: different kinds
of debt? Oh, explain. And the
51:50
debt that they bought is the
debt that has to be serviced.
51:53
The first, yeah, the first,
first money, yes. So they're the
51:57
ones that get all the I'll just
throw in a couple of thoughts.
52:02
This is a Soros type deal. This
is an investment, yes, a good
52:08
one. Designed a good one because
she got one, but something 1.9 I
52:13
think $1.9 billion in debt.
Yeah, for 400 million. Get the
52:17
whole thing for 400 million.
Yeah, and it's the best debt to
52:21
shareholders. Get nothing,
nothing. Everybody gets wiped
52:26
out, except of except the Soros
with this $400 million
52:30
investment. And the first thing,
well, you can tell, I don't know
52:34
what your interpretation is of
this. I mean, my interpretation
52:37
is that this was an incredibly
smart move, yes, to buy up a
52:41
bunch of crappy stations. Most
of music stations, by the way,
52:45
is not that just going to be
political, no. And it which is
52:49
the real giveaway. It's like,
52:51
Adam Curry: don't forget the
podcast network and
52:54
John C Dvorak: the stupid
Podcast Network, which is
52:56
useless, they're gonna piece it
off and make a billion dollars
53:01
in
53:02
Adam Curry: pieces. They're
gonna sell off the stations.
53:05
It's what you do. That's
53:06
John C Dvorak: what I said.
They're gonna sell off the
53:07
stations in bits and pieces. Get
about a billion dollars back
53:10
this. This is one of those
examples where the parts are
53:13
worth more than the whole.
53:15
Adam Curry: Yes, that's exactly
what a fun cause 400
53:19
John C Dvorak: million Yeah,
it's
53:20
Adam Curry: a big hole, and
you're not in it. Wait, that's a
53:23
different one, and
53:24
John C Dvorak: that's all it is.
Yeah, the fact that people
53:27
brought this up, and Mimi was
one of them, oh, no, like, What?
53:32
What?
53:35
Adam Curry: I heard this for the
past four days. Oh, George
53:38
Soros, he was gonna take all the
conservative shows off the air.
53:42
No, he's not. And the reason why
the FCC fast tracked it is
53:49
because this is about to go
under. Yes,
53:53
John C Dvorak: they had to money
between a rock and a hard place.
53:56
You either fast track this or
these guys are out of business
53:59
and the whole country can go to
pot. You have no choice but to
54:04
fast track. And then so the
Democrats vote yes, and the
54:07
Republicans being the jerk offs
that they are, don't, you know,
54:10
they don't want to argue. We
don't want to be associated with
54:13
this, we'll vote no, and we
don't have to worry about the
54:15
consequences, because we know
it's going to pass. It's
54:19
Adam Curry: just It was
unbelievable to me, how, and
54:22
it's every story had the
information in it,
54:26
John C Dvorak: but it was all,
no, it was obvious what was
54:28
going on, yeah.
54:29
Adam Curry: But it was all Oh,
Soros is gonna buy all the by
54:32
the way, most of these stations,
the average listenership is 74
54:36
years and older,
54:38
John C Dvorak: a lot of old
guys, a lot of am stations in
54:41
this
54:41
Adam Curry: mess, yeah. And at
the same time, you know, there
54:43
was the keep am radio bill. Did
you see that? Yeah? And because,
54:49
guess what, EV electric vehicles
aren't great with am radio. It's
54:54
like holding up a hairdryer,
hair dryer next to your
54:59
transistor. Radio, they go, Oh,
we have to keep am radio alive,
55:03
because, you know,
55:05
John C Dvorak: they got filters.
They can make fix it. Because,
55:08
Adam Curry: you know what, who's
still on am radio? The all
55:11
John C Dvorak: the talkers, all
the right wing talkers. That's
55:13
why they had to pass that bill.
All the right wing talkers are
55:16
an am radio, yeah, but
55:17
Adam Curry: you know what, all
the kids these days, they don't
55:20
listen to radio. It's, I mean,
okay, you can still make a lot
55:25
of money from radio, just like
from cable, you know, it'll,
55:29
it'll go for a few more years.
It's
55:30
John C Dvorak: worth it,
probably more than that, yeah,
55:33
it's still, it's still a
functioning, uh, media,
55:36
Adam Curry: yeah, but, but, you
know, within 10 years, your
55:39
listeners are dead, just like
George Soros. It's George Soros.
55:44
He's
55:45
John C Dvorak: gonna, no, I got,
I was wondering if you're gonna
55:47
do this story, because I'm glad
you caught it too. It was
55:51
because, well, I caught it right
away, and I expected Horowitz to
55:53
bring it up on DH and play, but
he never didn't. I didn't want
55:56
to introduce it. And I said,
Well, this whole thing can pass.
55:58
And then you brought it up. And
so I had to my opinion, fully
56:02
formed ready to go, because I
had to deal with Mimi and her
56:06
freak out,
56:08
Adam Curry: is she on the church
ladies Text group? But I didn't
56:10
know why she got
56:11
John C Dvorak: so worked up
about this. It's so obvious.
56:14
It's just a just a smart
investment that had to be done
56:18
by somebody. And nobody else you
know came up with this and, and
56:22
this is a classic Soros move.
This is what he does, and when
56:27
he does, you know, when he does,
the guy's a genius
56:32
Adam Curry: investor, but it's
not him, it's the Soros Fund
56:35
Management, yeah, but it's
still, it's still a mentality.
56:38
It's his mentality. But the guy
is dead. He's dead. It's like
56:42
Warren
56:43
John C Dvorak: Buffett. You
know, his mentality is just
56:45
permeates the
56:49
Adam Curry: so I just want
everybody to calm down, even the
56:53
the Republican FCC commissioner
was all and he knows what this
56:58
deal is about. He was
gaslighting. Was showboating,
57:02
yeah, let me see, I think I
have, I think I have a clip of
57:05
him. It wasn't, it was, it was
gaslighting here. This is, this
57:10
is the guy indicated there's a
car. Is his name, Commissioner
57:14
Carr transaction
57:16
Unknown: where a Soros back
group would take ownership of
57:20
over 200 radio stations across
40 different
57:24
Adam Curry: here he is take
ownership of no
57:28
Unknown: markets after the SC
originally indicating that that
57:31
transaction could be reviewed
and approved at the bureau level
57:34
without a commission vote. It's
now become clear that that is a
57:36
decision before the full
commission, and it's one that I
57:39
would assume now or in the near
future, the commission would
57:43
approve. I think what's
interesting about it is that the
57:46
FC here is not following its
normal process, reviewing a
57:51
transaction we have, says,
established over a number of
57:53
years, one way in which you can
get approval from the FCC when
57:57
you have in excess of 25%
foreign ownership, which this
58:00
transaction does. It seems to me
that the FCC is poised to
58:03
create, for the first time, an
entirely new shortcut ever.
58:07
Yeah. Thank
58:07
you. As you pointed out here in
previously, these proceedings
58:10
for transfer of ownership have
been expedited. What exactly
58:15
makes this case so deserving of
an expedited proceeding? So
58:20
there is nothing about this
transaction that is out of the
58:23
ordinary. It's the type of thing
that we see all the time, and
58:26
the FC has a process for this.
The full commission itself has
58:30
never signed off on a shortcut.
58:33
Adam Curry: Oh, shortcut. Soros
is getting favor from the
58:37
Democrats. No, this is what I
deal with, and I'm glad you have
58:43
to deal with it too. That makes
me, that makes me happy
58:46
John C Dvorak: to deal with it.
That's what this show is for.
58:50
Might as well do the next are
sensible people out there that
58:53
can see through it. The
58:57
Adam Curry: the next one was
also a little minor thing. I'm
59:00
like, Well, who cares about
this? And the term is founders
59:05
mode, all
59:06
Bag: the drama around 23andme
that could give startup founders
59:09
one more reason to stay private
or at least reconsider the
59:12
consequences of founders mode, a
narrative that has been sweeping
59:16
through tech in recent weeks,
especially when you have to
59:18
answer to a public board and
shareholders. Now the CEO and
59:21
founder of the DNA testing
company and Wojcicki, she
59:24
brought the company public vice
back just three years ago. It
59:27
has since lost 99.9% of its
value from a $6 billion market
59:33
cap peak she decided earlier
this year but should be private
59:37
and firmly in her control. She
proposed buying back all
59:40
outstanding shares that she
didn't already own. The board
59:43
rejected that proposal, but she
still has enough control to
59:47
block other potential bidders.
It has now culminated with all
59:51
seven members of that board
resigning and a notice from the
59:54
NASDAQ threatening to delist the
company if she can't replace
59:57
them by October 3. Now. Take a
look. This is the current web
1:00:01
page of 23andme board of
directors. It's mighty lonely,
1:00:06
though. It included some of the
most important leaders in tech
1:00:09
and health care. These are just
some of them, Sequoia capitals
1:00:12
roll off both the YouTube CEO
Neil Mohan, renowned MDs, they
1:00:16
were attracted in the first
place to a jet skis drive to
1:00:19
move fast and ship products,
pioneering direct to consumer
1:00:22
genomics. It's founders mode,
basically this whole saga
1:00:26
playing out in public with all
the scrutiny that goes along
1:00:28
with this founders
1:00:30
Adam Curry: mode, which means I
failed miserably. Everybody's
1:00:34
data is at risk, which I will
say this show said, Don't do
1:00:40
this. Do not send your DNA to
this Google woman, to anybody,
1:00:46
to anybody. Yes, don't do it.
And now there's no oversight.
1:00:52
The stock is under a buck. It's
like 30 cents, and she'll
1:00:57
eventually have full control
what she gonna do. She's gonna
1:00:59
sell it. Good word. Every
1:01:02
John C Dvorak: idea, yeah, Her
idea was to, I don't think was a
1:01:05
bad idea, from her perspective,
to go private. Yeah. Thought it
1:01:10
was sucking back up. Take it off
the market and load money. This
1:01:13
is what Michael Dell did, and
did quite well for himself,
1:01:17
taking this company off the
market. Take it off the market.
1:01:20
I don't understand why these why
these board members who were
1:01:23
handpicked by her to begin with,
all bailed out on the idea
1:01:26
because it would have been a
moneymaker, you but you take it
1:01:29
back, and then you rejigger it,
and then roll it out a second
1:01:34
time with another IPO and make a
ton of money. This just doesn't
1:01:37
make sense, because you
wouldn't. There's
1:01:39
Adam Curry: obviously a lot
wrong with this company. So much
1:01:42
wrong, I
1:01:43
John C Dvorak: guess that must
be it. A lot is
1:01:44
Adam Curry: wrong inside that
company. Yeah, well, there you
1:01:47
go. Don't spread your DNA around
if
1:01:50
John C Dvorak: there wasn't
something else wrong. This is a
1:01:52
great idea.
1:01:55
Adam Curry: And then the final
scam, which came out in uh,
1:01:58
senatorial over Sunday on the
new agenda. It is scam day. This
1:02:03
is something we learned from
this is something we learned
1:02:08
from Trump when he talked about
the pharmacy benefit managers
1:02:12
who we tried to get out of the
equation. You remember he said a
1:02:15
lot of people not going to be
happy. They're going to want to
1:02:18
kill me over this. And this is
and this is the ozempic hearing.
1:02:23
Unknown: Bottom line is, you are
charging the American people
1:02:27
substantially more for the same
exact drug than you are charging
1:02:31
people in other countries. And
my question is, why
1:02:34
we don't decide the price for
patients that's set by by the
1:02:40
insurance companies.
1:02:41
Senators grilled the maker of
ozempic and other weight loss
1:02:45
drugs about why Americans pay so
much more than other countries.
1:02:49
Take a look at the difference
here. So the company norvo
1:02:52
Nordisk charges $969 a month for
ozempic Before insurance and
1:02:58
rebates here in the United
States, compared to 155 a month
1:03:02
in Canada and 59 bucks in
Germany, the CEO blamed the US
1:03:07
health care system, arguing that
so called pharmacy benefit
1:03:10
managers, the middlemen between
insurance companies and drug
1:03:14
makers, are the ones who
negotiate prices and get in the
1:03:16
way of passing discounts to
customers
1:03:21
market, we have to operate in,
and we negotiate how to make
1:03:28
sure that Americans have access.
1:03:30
Just last week, the Federal
Trade Commission announced legal
1:03:32
action against three pharmacy
benefit managers, accusing them
1:03:35
of inflating insulin prices. The
1:03:38
Adam Curry: whole system is
corrupt. It's completely
1:03:41
John C Dvorak: insurance
companies are behind the whole
1:03:42
thing, yes,
1:03:44
Adam Curry: which everyone's
afraid to do anything about in
1:03:46
our government. I don't, I'm
not. I guess they're the big
1:03:49
donors. But it's, it is scammed
1:03:52
John C Dvorak: the donors to
get. So there's that I can't
1:03:55
remember this woman's name. She
was on Gutfeld last night. She's
1:03:58
a long time liberal, but she's
kind of turned She's that kind
1:04:03
of attractive lesbian fitness
girl. She's on a lot of TV
1:04:08
shows. She's
1:04:09
Adam Curry: Jillian Michaels,
yes, yeah. Oh, I love her. She
1:04:13
did a whole beautiful thing in a
hearing the other day, like
1:04:17
eight minutes, talked
1:04:18
John C Dvorak: about that a
little bit, but on the show, she
1:04:20
went after ozempic, good to an
extreme. I wish I should. I
1:04:25
should have clipped it, or could
still do it, but I'm not going
1:04:28
to. I'll just tell you she went
off on it and it was like, Wow.
1:04:35
She's never going to be back on
this show again. No,
1:04:37
Adam Curry: no, can't be on Fox
doing that nonsense. Nope. No,
1:04:41
no. She did eight minutes in
this hearing, and she got a
1:04:44
standing ovation. It was, it was
very good, you know? I And of
1:04:49
course, it was one of those sub
rooms where they just shove a
1:04:52
bunch of tables together in a
big hole in a big square. Well,
1:04:57
yes, I'm in Washington, DC,
testifying. No. Well, you're in
1:05:00
like, some little side room that
nobody cares about. Yeah, it's
1:05:04
always, it's always Ron Johnson,
who I appreciate that he does
1:05:07
it. He
1:05:08
John C Dvorak: does that a lot.
John,
1:05:09
Adam Curry: come to my party.
You know, it's like school.
1:05:12
Let's all, let's all put the
tables in a square so we can all
1:05:16
see each other. Let's hold hands
and tell a secret.
1:05:19
John C Dvorak: She had one funny
bit she's talking about because
1:05:22
they do these different
segments, and one of them is
1:05:24
about Diddy. And she says, you
know, she was good friends with
1:05:27
Diddy and never got invited to
any of these parties. What's
1:05:30
she's a lesbian. What's wrong
with me?
1:05:33
Adam Curry: Hello, you're a
lesbian. You're no good did you
1:05:35
see the bodyguard who's like and
all these hot girls, all
1:05:39
topless? And I went into the
men's room, and there she was.
1:05:42
She lifted her skirt up, like,
wow, these Diddy party. Ain't no
1:05:46
party like a Diddy party. This
is it. This is the year cat
1:05:51
Williams was right. Everything's
gonna be be all that is hidden
1:05:54
will be known this year. So
coming Yeah, a lot is coming
1:05:58
out. Blood is coming out. It
will not be on the six o'clock
1:06:01
news for sure. You'll hear it on
a podcast, and you'll go.
1:06:08
Delighted, just delighted, to
see vice president Harris do a
1:06:13
sit down interview with no
brother, Stephanie rule.
1:06:19
John C Dvorak: Stephanie rule,
who loves her
1:06:22
Adam Curry: well and so and the
the boys at the at the trading
1:06:25
desk there on at Goldman loved
her when she was still at
1:06:29
Goldman. Sachs. I have that from
the New York banker, former New
1:06:32
York banker,
1:06:34
John C Dvorak: and Stephanie,
what was she? What was her
1:06:35
extracurricular activities? Was
there something going on?
1:06:38
Adam Curry: I believe so. Yes, I
believe she's one of those world
1:06:43
favorite, yes, one of those.
And, and she's, you know, and
1:06:46
Scott Galloway loves her, Oh, I
love me some Stephanie rules.
1:06:50
She's the best. She's great with
her Starbucks. So I have some
1:06:56
very one. I'm
1:06:58
John C Dvorak: glad you got
clips, because I looked at it, I
1:06:59
saw nothing but the same old,
same old middle class bull crap,
1:07:05
and I clipped nothing. I have
some, some overview clips. I
1:07:09
Adam Curry: got some some some
shorties here, one one a little
1:07:12
longer, and then some just short
ones, like 30 seconds. And the
1:07:17
reason why I'm playing these is
I kind of realize, without
1:07:20
saying it, on the last show we
talked about, am I racist, the
1:07:24
Matt Walsh movie. And the beauty
of that movie is that when you
1:07:31
see it in context of the movie,
you see that America is not
1:07:35
racist. You see the Grifters who
have been gaslighting the
1:07:39
gaslighting Grifters who have
made everyone to at least, at
1:07:45
best, argue over whether America
is racist, and at worst, they
1:07:49
create the 1619 project. And oh,
we're the most racist. We're the
1:07:54
systemically racist, racist,
racist. But then you really look
1:07:57
at it like, this is not true.
This not true. And the same is
1:08:01
with this Stephanie rule
interview. Kamala Harris is not
1:08:05
a threat to to the presidency.
She will not be president.
1:08:10
America will not vote for her.
This is just more gaslighting by
1:08:14
the media, and the worst part is
a lot of people who will not
1:08:18
vote for her, like, oh, Kamala
Bev is she wins. You make you're
1:08:25
making yourself crazy and ill
with this stuff. Let's just pull
1:08:29
it apart. Let's start with her
economic plan,
1:08:32
Unknown: madam, Vice President,
you just laid out your economic
1:08:35
vision for the future. But
still, there are lots of
1:08:38
Americans who don't see
themselves in your plans. For
1:08:43
those who say these policies
aren't for me, what do you say
1:08:47
to them?
1:08:48
Well, if you are hardworking, if
you have dreams and the
1:08:58
ambitions and the aspirations of
what I believe you do, you're in
1:09:04
my plan. You know, I have to
tell you really, you
1:09:07
Adam Curry: can keep your
doctor. You're in my plan.
1:09:11
Unknown: Love and I'm so
energized by what I know to be
1:09:15
the spirit and character of the
American people. We have
1:09:18
ambition, we have aspirations,
we have dreams. We can see
1:09:23
what's possible. We have an
incredible work ethic, but not
1:09:29
everyone has the access to the
opportunities that allow them to
1:09:33
achieve those things. But we
don't lack for those things, but
1:09:37
not everyone gets handed stuff
on a silver platter, and so my
1:09:41
vision for the economy, I call
it an opportunity economy, is
1:09:44
about making sure that all
Americans, wherever they start,
1:09:49
wherever they are, have the
ability to actually achieve
1:09:53
those those dreams and those
ambitions, which include from
1:09:56
middle class families, just
being able to. Know that their
1:10:00
hard work allows them to get
ahead, right? I think we can't,
1:10:05
and we shouldn't aspire to have
an economy that just allows
1:10:08
people to get by. People want to
do more than just get by. They
1:10:11
want to get ahead. And I come
from the middle class. Oh, yeah.
1:10:15
Adam Curry: So no American
watching this. Heard anything of
1:10:19
any use zero. Okay, let's talk
about price gouging. Prices
1:10:25
Unknown: are still high. I agree
with you. You said you want to
1:10:27
take this on by going after
those who engage in price
1:10:31
gouging. But as somebody who
supports free markets, who's a
1:10:35
capitalist, how do you go after
price gouging without
1:10:39
implementing price controls,
because once we get in this
1:10:43
zone, people start to get
worried. And they say, I don't
1:10:45
know what she stands for.
1:10:47
So just to be very frank,
1:10:50
John C Dvorak: I am never what,
because she's lying. I
1:10:54
Unknown: apologize for going
after companies and corporations
1:10:59
that take advantage of the
desperation of the American
1:11:02
people. And as Attorney General,
I saw this happen. Oh yeah, in
1:11:05
the midst of an emergency,
whether it be an extreme weather
1:11:08
event or even the pandemic, we
saw it really, where those few
1:11:12
companies, not the majority,
1:11:13
Adam Curry: not most, those are
the only companies you allowed
1:11:16
to stay open, Madam Vice
President, but those
1:11:19
Unknown: few companies that
would take advantage of the
1:11:21
desperation of people and jack
up prices, yeah, I'm going to go
1:11:26
after them. Yes, I'm going to go
after them. And that is part of
1:11:31
a much more comprehensive plan
on what we can do to bring down
1:11:35
the cost of living, including
housing, including the everyday
1:11:38
needs of the American people.
Okay,
1:11:40
Adam Curry: so right on cue,
Elizabeth Warren and Senator Bob
1:11:46
Casey come out with a warning,
and we're sounding the alarm.
1:11:52
Listen to this. Many grocery
chains, including Kroger, have
1:11:57
rapidly expanded their use of
ESL in recent years, are you
1:12:02
familiar with ESL? ESL? Yes,
electronic shelf labels. So
1:12:09
instead of some high school
student on Saturdays going
1:12:14
around that would click, click,
click, click, click, click,
1:12:16
click, click. You remember we
used to look at the little price
1:12:19
tag and there'll be five
underneath it, because I just
1:12:23
put another price tag on top.
Yeah, yeah. So now they have a
1:12:27
little digital readout that
gives you the price. And Kroger
1:12:32
has been using this since 2018
and has since expanded it to 500
1:12:37
stores nationwide. ESL may help,
may help Kroger extract maximum
1:12:42
profits from consumers at a time
when Americans are dealing with
1:12:45
the cost of grocery prices,
their margins are one to 2%
1:12:51
John C Dvorak: the margins in
the grocery store are close to
1:12:54
zero. But then
1:12:55
Adam Curry: Warren throws a
little more on top saying
1:12:58
dynamic pricing, which is okay,
well, all right, so now it's a
1:13:04
little faster, instead of the
college or the high school
1:13:08
students putting stickers on
everything, all right, dynamic
1:13:10
pricing allows corporate
corporations to price gouge and
1:13:15
suddenly raise the cost of goods
without warning. Kroger has also
1:13:18
proposed, proposed to place
facial recognition cameras on
1:13:22
its digital shelves that could
make different offers to
1:13:25
shoppers based on their age,
gender, or potentially their
1:13:28
race and other personal
characteristics. They're going
1:13:32
to be racist crap. Of course,
it's bull crap. But then,
1:13:35
John C Dvorak: by the way,
dynamic pricing, which has been
1:13:38
in play in various industries,
especially the hotel industry
1:13:41
since the 40s, decades, tends to
price lower. Yes. The idea is,
1:13:48
as you get near the end of the
shelf life, or whatever it might
1:13:52
be, in terms of a room available
at a hotel, tap it down. They
1:13:55
drop the price. They don't raise
the price. We're now, yes. Wait
1:14:00
just on the other hand, I will
say this, because dynamic
1:14:03
pricing does take place in San
Francisco parking, the meters
1:14:07
are all set up. So if there's a
Giants game, for example, in the
1:14:10
area where there's some parking
meters, the price of the of an
1:14:13
hour of parking will triple,
right?
1:14:15
Adam Curry: But there's no
competition for the parking. If
1:14:18
you have competition, if you
have multiple stores, a Kroger
1:14:24
and an heb or whatever else
1:14:25
John C Dvorak: it is, yeah,
Publix, then Piggly Wiggly,
1:14:29
Adam Curry: Piggly Wiggly, it
will result in in price
1:14:32
lowering. That's how it works,
because people are price
1:14:36
conscious, but they're just
gaslighting. Oh, well, we need
1:14:41
price fixing. Oh, we can, and we
can't have that anyway. Madam
1:14:48
VP, Madam VP, how are you going
to do me these taxes? You talk
1:14:55
about the corporate tax and
everything, if Congress decides
1:14:58
not to, not to pay? Pay for it.
After all, they do control the
1:15:02
purse strings, expanding
1:15:04
Unknown: that child tax credit.
Or you mentioned housing before
1:15:06
giving that extra money for a
first home if you can't raise
1:15:10
corporate taxes. Or if GOP takes
control of the Senate, where do
1:15:14
you get the money to do that? Do
you still go forward those plans
1:15:17
and borrow
1:15:18
Adam Curry: what do you think
the answer is, what do you do?
1:15:20
How, if you are the vice
president now President Harris,
1:15:23
John, what would you do if
Congress executive order? Well,
1:15:28
Unknown: but
1:15:28
we're going to have to raise
corporate taxes, and we're going
1:15:32
to have to raise we're going to
have to make sure that the
1:15:36
biggest corporations and
billionaires pay their fair
1:15:40
share. That's just it. It's
about paying their fair share.
1:15:43
We're
1:15:43
Adam Curry: just gonna have to
do it. I have no idea how. We're
1:15:45
just gonna have to do it. You
1:15:47
John C Dvorak: know, I don't
know how any politician, you
1:15:50
have to be an idiot. And this
woman is not the smartest person
1:15:54
I've ever seen running for
office. No, say the least. No,
1:15:58
no. You have to be an idiot to
beat for part of your platform
1:16:02
to be to raise taxes, because
that's all they want to take
1:16:06
more money from you. I'm voting
for her. It
1:16:08
Adam Curry: always works. It
always works. Now let's do a
1:16:11
little fact check. Just a fact
check, because
1:16:13
Unknown: your opponent no such
thing as a little fair, because
1:16:19
your opponent, almost every day
seems to be talking about this.
1:16:21
So I just want to ask you, yes
or no at any point in your life,
1:16:25
have you served to all beef
patties, special sauce, lettuce,
1:16:29
cheese, onions on a sesame seed
bun, looking at a McDonald's yes
1:16:33
or no? Okay? Now the other job,
1:16:37
it was not a small job like you
know,
1:16:42
Adam Curry: okay, she sticks to
it. There's no evidence. And of
1:16:46
course, Trump is making a big
joke out of it continuously. And
1:16:50
then the New World.
1:16:52
John C Dvorak: Wait, I hate to
have you back this up, but what
1:16:56
did, how did she describe what
she was doing? Because
1:16:58
Adam Curry: she was standing
over the fries. She was in
1:17:00
charge of the fries in that
clip. In that clip, yes, she
1:17:03
says it the end. You want to
hear it again.
1:17:08
Unknown: If you can play it
again, I'd like to hear it
1:17:09
again. Yeah, I'll
1:17:10
Adam Curry: play the the answer.
1:17:11
Unknown: Have you served to all
beef patties, special sauce,
1:17:15
lettuce, cheese pickers, onions
on a sesame seed bun, looking at
1:17:19
a McDonald's yes or no, that's
it. I have okay. Now the other
1:17:22
job,
1:17:23
it was not a small job, like I
do fries. I mean, I, you know,
1:17:28
Adam Curry: she dunked fries
1:17:31
John C Dvorak: a small job,
1:17:32
Adam Curry: but you know, the
question that she asks is, have
1:17:34
you ever, at any point in your
life? I'm sure, as a politician,
1:17:38
she's probably served people at
McDonald's. Everyone does it
1:17:43
like, Hi, can I take your order?
I'm a politician working at
1:17:46
McDonald's. I'm just like you,
so she's probably not actually
1:17:50
lying. But you know, the risk
the original claim was that I
1:17:54
worked at McDonald's. I come
from a middle class family in
1:17:57
Canada. Here's the new word, the
new word of the day. You'll hear
1:18:02
it three times in 27 seconds.
1:18:05
Unknown: Some of the work is
going to be through what we do
1:18:08
in terms of giving benefits and
assistance to state local
1:18:11
governments around transit
dollars, and looking
1:18:15
holistically at the connection
between that and housing and
1:18:19
looking holistically at the
incentives we in the federal
1:18:22
government can create for local
and state governments to
1:18:25
actually engage in planning in
holistic manner that includes
1:18:28
prioritizing affordable housing
for working people.
1:18:32
Adam Curry: So I can tell you
from firsthand experience, if
1:18:35
you're in a Silicon Valley
meeting and someone's pitching
1:18:37
the company and they say they're
going to do something
1:18:40
holistically, the checkbook goes
back into the bag.
1:18:43
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Now I
watched this too. Now this
1:18:47
holistically thing always came
with a hand gesture, yes, a
1:18:53
round ball. And the hand
gestures is the same as the
1:18:58
gesture of turning the page. You
have a call. I do. It's the same
1:19:05
as turning the page. I'm gonna
go hang that up. Yeah, okay, let
1:19:07
Adam Curry: me go hang it. Hang
it up. It's the same as turning
1:19:11
the page. Yes, he's walking to
the other side of the office. Be
1:19:18
careful. Don't trip on any of
those piles. Could be very
1:19:21
painful. If we hear cans, then
we know John has fallen.
1:19:28
Unknown: Hello, nobody there.
1:19:32
Adam Curry: Okay, why don't you,
can I Why don't you have the
1:19:35
phone near your desk?
1:19:36
John C Dvorak: I have to it is
near my desk. This is this
1:19:39
podcasting section of the office
is not the desk. Oh, okay, all
1:19:44
right. But yes, it's turning the
page she wants. She has that
1:19:47
hand motion and and it's like
Pavlovian, so the holistic
1:19:52
motion is exactly the same as
her, and she's kind of dropped
1:19:56
turning the page. But she loves
that hand. It's like a. Oh,
1:20:00
these are not the drones. I
mean, it's just like this hand
1:20:03
movement, yeah, yeah. It's done
for some, some Neuro Linguistic
1:20:08
Programming, like reason, yes,
yes.
1:20:13
Adam Curry: Well, then the, just
the final clip, 11 seconds. This
1:20:16
is the only question we really
care about.
1:20:18
Unknown: Can we trust you?
Dudes?
1:20:22
Adam Curry: Dudes, yeah. Yes,
1:20:23
Unknown: I am not perfect, yeah,
yeah, but I will tell you, I'm
1:20:27
always going to put the needs of
the people first. Yeah,
1:20:30
Adam Curry: that's right. You
can trust me. Trust me that even
1:20:32
mean, I don't know, but you can.
She puts the means of the people
1:20:35
first. This is this woman is so
bad that even Eva mckend on CNN
1:20:43
is like, no, no, no, no. And of
course, she's black, so the
1:20:47
panel couldn't say anything to
her, because it's about
1:20:50
immigration. The Vice
1:20:51
Unknown: President has a long
history, a well documented
1:20:53
history, of really being an ally
to these immigrant communities.
1:20:57
She has two chapters in her
book, I say we fight and we are
1:21:00
better than this, where she
really makes a robust case for
1:21:04
undocumented immigrants. During
the Trump administration, she
1:21:07
talked about a climate of fear.
She dismissed the border wall as
1:21:12
ineffective and a waste of
resources, and so and even her
1:21:16
guest at the joint session of
Congress was a DACA recipient,
1:21:20
was a dreamer, and so for her to
go down there and characterize
1:21:24
herself as tough on the border,
it, to me, it isn't consistent
1:21:28
with a lot of the policy
positions that she previously
1:21:31
has espoused. Yeah,
1:21:32
Adam Curry: exactly. She's a
liar. She's a liar. Everybody
1:21:36
knows it, but yet everyone's
also worked up over her. And
1:21:42
well, they're gonna steal the
election. You know, you think
1:21:45
people would think that they the
Republicans are pretty dumb, I
1:21:50
mean, or as dumb as anyone else.
They are pretty dumb. But when
1:21:56
it comes to, when it comes to
these elections, now, they have
1:22:03
also figured some stuff out. Let
me see, I think it's yeah. This
1:22:07
is CBS. Just
1:22:08
Unknown: as vice president
Kamala Harris arrived seeking
1:22:10
new altitude in this
battleground state. A Georgia
1:22:14
State election board controlled
by former President Donald Trump
1:22:17
supporters is causing turbulence
just more than six weeks until
1:22:21
election day, three Republicans,
who hold a majority on the
1:22:24
board, voted to change the rules
for handling ballots, requiring
1:22:28
poll workers at each precinct in
Georgia's 159 counties to
1:22:31
conduct a hand count of all the
ballots on election night, in
1:22:35
addition to the traditional
machine count Trump ally Janelle
1:22:39
King,
1:22:39
what I don't Want to do is set a
precedent that we are okay with
1:22:44
speed over accuracy.
1:22:46
I don't see any danger in Han
County. If the complaint is
1:22:50
that, you know, I just don't
want to stay there an extra
1:22:52
hour. That's just not a good
enough complaint for me, an
1:22:55
idea opponents blistered as an
attempt to slow the vote count.
1:22:59
We are talking about all these
last minute changes, and it
1:23:03
makes me question whether
members of this board are
1:23:07
operating in good faith. Others
1:23:09
said it will cost millions of
dollars to hire additional
1:23:12
workers. Say again,
1:23:14
John C Dvorak: I said they're
they're acting, not acting in
1:23:16
good faith by asking for a hand.
It's
1:23:19
Unknown: ridiculous changes, and
it makes me question whether
1:23:24
members of this board are
operating in good faith.
1:23:27
Others said it will cost
millions of dollars to hire and
1:23:30
train additional workers and sow
distrust in the results and
1:23:34
delay tabulation of final
results by days or weeks. I
1:23:39
brought with me 1872
1:23:41
pages of paper representing what
a stack of ballots could look
1:23:45
like on a busy counting day. All
1:23:47
the top Republicans in the
state, including the governor,
1:23:49
have criticized the board's
actions, accusing them of
1:23:52
exceeding their authority in
making 11th hour changes. Trump,
1:23:56
meanwhile has lauded and thanked
the board members for
1:23:59
considering new rules.
1:24:00
They're on fire. They're doing a
great job.
1:24:04
Adam Curry: So, you know, the
Republicans are doing their bit
1:24:06
too. They're trying to stop the
steal of course, although then I
1:24:12
hate to say it, because I met
him and I kind of like the guy,
1:24:16
Mike Lindell, put his foot in
it, Mr. My pillow guy. This is
1:24:22
dynamic pricing at its worst.
1:24:24
Unknown: My pillow founder Mike
Lindell is known for supporting
1:24:27
conspiracy theories, including
backing Donald Trump's false
1:24:31
claims that
1:24:32
John C Dvorak: he won the 2020
election, not a false claim.
1:24:35
Unknown: And now more eyebrows
are raising, Lindell has put his
1:24:38
pillows on sale for 1488 is that
a bargain price or a secret
1:24:44
signal to Neo Nazis? A new
1:24:47
controversy for the my pillow
guy for allegedly sending coded
1:24:50
messages to white supremacists
and Neo Nazis for having the
1:24:54
biggest my pillow sale ever.
It's a new ad for my pillow for
1:24:58
$14 paying. 88 cents. The
numbers 14 and 88 are common
1:25:03
symbols among hate groups. 14
stands for a 14 word slogan
1:25:08
embraced by white supremacists.
The number 88 is alleged to be
1:25:12
an abbreviation for Heil Hitler,
since H is the eighth letter of
1:25:16
the alphabet, dog whistle goes
this comment on social media.
1:25:20
This is intentional, but not
everyone is seeing the
1:25:23
connection. Such a stretch goes
this comment, we reached out to
1:25:27
my pillow CEO Mike Lindell, who
was featured in all his
1:25:30
company's ads, but got no
response. Lindell is known for
1:25:34
pushing debunked conspiracy
theories today.
1:25:37
Lindell denies the price stock
1:25:39
John C Dvorak: to clip, so
they're condemning Lindell for
1:25:44
for accepting conspiracy
theories with false claims,
1:25:47
whatever it is, while the whole
exposition here is a conspiracy
1:25:52
theory, it's very much they know
that they're like expressing a
1:25:57
conspiracy theory. It's
1:25:59
Adam Curry: a call to the Neo
Nazis. John, all the Nazis are
1:26:02
buying pillows because we're
going to do a pillow fight. I
1:26:06
don't even know what it means.
Well, I do actually the 14
1:26:10
words, according to the book of
knowledge, is a reference to two
1:26:14
slogans originated by David Eden
lane, one of the nine founding
1:26:18
members of the defunct white
supremacist terrorist
1:26:21
organization, the order and our
this is so deep and I want you
1:26:27
to order a pillow. Yes, order.
The order is, get a pillow and
1:26:32
our company by Lane's 88
precepts. The slogans have
1:26:35
served as a rallying cry for
militant white nationalists.
1:26:38
Internationally, the primary
slogan, ready for the 14 words,
1:26:44
we must secure the existence of
our people and our future for
1:26:48
white children, followed by the
secondary slogan, because the
1:26:53
beauty of the white Aryan woman
must not perish from the earth.
1:26:58
Talk about a conspiracy theory
of a guy who's a conspiracy
1:27:02
theorist, Mike, Mike, Mike,
Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, it's an
1:27:07
odd number 214,
1:27:08
Unknown: believable. What
1:27:09
Adam Curry: happened to 1499 I
mean, that was, well,
1:27:12
John C Dvorak: 14, yeah, four.
He could have done 1495 which go
1:27:16
number
1:27:17
Adam Curry: could have done
anything. But I guess now it
1:27:21
probably,
1:27:21
John C Dvorak: you know
somebody, you know, I always
1:27:23
suspect there's somebody that
else that does this just to kind
1:27:28
of set him up.
1:27:30
Adam Curry: Oh, very possible,
because he's, he's not a guy
1:27:33
that would he's, he seemed,
really seems like a, just a nice
1:27:37
guy, yeah,
1:27:38
John C Dvorak: he doesn't have
any of the earmarks of any sort
1:27:41
of nutty white supremacist. So
this is like, no, I got a great
1:27:45
idea this year, 1488, Okay,
sounds good.
1:27:50
Adam Curry: Hey, that's good.
That's a good price. We'll make
1:27:52
a nice
1:27:53
Unknown: profit. Meanwhile,
1:27:56
John C Dvorak: that's a good
price for that pillow.
1:27:58
Adam Curry: It's best price
1:28:00
John C Dvorak: is Chinese,
supposed to be coming in from
1:28:03
somewhere else. Meanwhile,
1:28:05
Adam Curry: I started getting
emails people, just like they're
1:28:09
texting me. They're not texting
me, they're sending me emails
1:28:11
like text messages. This is
crazy. No link, oh, I can't
1:28:16
believe this. No link. Like
five, six in a row. Yeah, I
1:28:21
John C Dvorak: didn't get these.
Well, no,
1:28:23
Adam Curry: they can't spell
your last name. It's very
1:28:25
difficult to find dvorak.org
they send it to dvorak.com and
1:28:31
it was another zoom call this
time we of course, we had black
1:28:38
women for Harris, we had white
dudes for Harris. We had
1:28:42
Christians for Harris. We had
more celebrities people don't
1:28:47
care about anymore for Harris.
We had comedians for Harris, and
1:28:51
now we had geeks and nerds for
Harris, which is really should
1:28:59
be watched, and I will only play
you the opening sequence, as
1:29:05
they brought in Wonder Woman,
Linda Carter to host this
1:29:11
fabulous call. This was a
mistake. I don't know if she's
1:29:18
drunk. I don't know if this is
just how she is, but a host of a
1:29:24
zoom call, she is not
1:29:26
Unknown: good evening, and
welcome to geeks and nerds for
1:29:30
Harris, I am Linda Carter, and
I'm thrilled to be here to
1:29:35
support our brilliant vice
president Kamala Harris. We are
1:29:40
here tonight for duty for our
country, for our freedoms, for
1:29:45
justice, equality and community.
I am here with you today, that
1:29:53
and to share the joy and hope
with people I adore, geeks and
1:29:59
the nerves. Words of America,
1:30:03
America the curious
1:30:05
club of kooky collaborators
coming together for Kamala
1:30:10
Harris. That's why we need you
to rise up and defend our
1:30:17
democracy by getting out the
vote for Kamala Harris and Tim
1:30:21
walls, tonight, we'll be joined
by dozens of geek and nerd icons
1:30:27
from Tina, like
1:30:28
Adam Curry: LeVar Burton. Oh, I
mean, no, how come they don't do
1:30:35
love island for Harris, that
would people would watch that
1:30:40
Unknown: they would love Island
drunk.
1:30:42
Adam Curry: She does sound
drunk. No, what real Americans
1:30:46
are talking about is what's
happening in their cities. The
1:30:49
rents too high. That guy,
Where's the guy with the boot on
1:30:52
his head? That guy's so good was
that? No, that's a different
1:30:55
guy.
1:30:56
John C Dvorak: He's the
original. Rents too high. Guy's
1:30:59
dead, the free
1:31:00
Adam Curry: the guy with the
boot on his head is everyone
1:31:02
gets a pony. I like him. So
Chicago is in disarray. I mean,
1:31:10
there's, there's people who grew
up in Chicago and people sending
1:31:14
me sub stacks, and it, it's
just, it's horrible. What has
1:31:19
happened to this city, and now
we have the TDA. Was it? Trenda
1:31:27
Aragua, the Venezuelan gang, and
I believe this to be true. It
1:31:35
may be exaggerated here, but
they're coming in and the
1:31:40
Chicago gangs who have been
killing each other, you know, I
1:31:44
know 30 people a weekend.
They're like, Oh, what they do?
1:31:48
Hold on a second. You can't come
in here and take our turf. So
1:31:53
now we're going to see we had,
like the I think I heard Darren
1:31:56
say they had 37 people shot last
weekend. You didn't really hear
1:32:00
about it. Of course, of course,
course, not with three dead,
1:32:04
four dead, Darren said they're
doing great. It's moving ahead
1:32:06
just beautifully in Chicago.
He's in Chicago. So here's a
1:32:10
former gang member. So
1:32:11
Unknown: Venezuelan gang members
moving into Chicago have caught
1:32:14
the attention of the city's
local counterparts, bringing
1:32:18
tensions to an all time high.
Our next guest is a former gang
1:32:21
member who now runs a violence
prevention program and warns
1:32:24
that the city may go up in
flames, fearing an all out turf
1:32:28
war. Explain to us what's
happening on the ground. So
1:32:33
let me just say this, we just
heard about vice president who
1:32:38
says she She specialized in
locking up and arresting
1:32:43
transnational gangs, while the
very party that she's a part of
1:32:49
the policies with the sanctuary
cities and the border crisis she
1:32:55
support and now the influx of is
which is oxymoronic at the same
1:33:01
time. Now we have to fight
transnational games and the
1:33:06
influx of these men who we don't
know where they come, what
1:33:11
crimes they committed, and the
violence that they've been
1:33:14
involved with thus far. With
that being said, we're on the
1:33:18
front line every day making sure
that our communities are safe.
1:33:23
And it's really not about the
black community. This is just
1:33:26
the beginning, because violence
anywhere is violence everywhere.
1:33:30
America should be afraid that
this can happen in America's
1:33:34
cities, one of the biggest
cities, most tourists, one of
1:33:37
the biggest tourists, attracting
cities in the country, that we
1:33:42
can watch this happen all over
the country and not be outraged.
1:33:47
And this is the policies, sir,
this is what I'm saying,
1:33:50
Lawrence, it's the policies that
has affected our community and
1:33:55
has turned black people, black
communities, against the current
1:33:59
administration. You
1:34:00
know what? Tyrone? You hit it on
the head. That's right.
1:34:03
Adam Curry: Tyrone, oxymoronic
is probably the best show title
1:34:07
I've heard in a while. I've
1:34:08
John C Dvorak: read it, wrote it
down. It's so good, oxymoronic,
1:34:12
Adam Curry: but it's true. This
is what everybody's seeing. You
1:34:16
know, I just don't I want people
to calm down, stop watching your
1:34:22
social media feed. There's
nothing, nothing to be afraid of
1:34:26
here. And besides, we're not
going to vote our way out of the
1:34:30
mess we got out. We got a lot
more, lot more to do. It's not
1:34:33
just, not just who's president.
It won't help if Harris ever
1:34:38
became president, but it's not
going to happen, and she's so
1:34:42
lame she's not even showing up
to the Al Smith dinner.
1:34:46
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was
pretty lame if you're a
1:34:48
Democrat, but I
1:34:50
Adam Curry: mean, the Al Smith
dinner is fantastic. Now, this
1:34:53
has been around for a long time,
and the best one I'd look I
1:34:59
don't. We didn't have any clips,
or at least I couldn't find
1:35:01
anything labeled. Is when Trump
and Clinton were both there, and
1:35:05
he was busting on her and she
was busting on him. And it was
1:35:09
funny, it was and of course, the
media is like, whoa. The Trump
1:35:13
is not funny. He's no good, and
now she's not even gonna show
1:35:17
up. Here's Cardinal Dolan. Why
is he an important piece of
1:35:20
this? Is it some kind of
religious dinner?
1:35:25
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
We're
1:35:27
Unknown: disappointed. We were
looking forward to giving the
1:35:30
vice president an enthusiastic
welcome, and we kind of, we were
1:35:35
confident that she would find
this you know, she speaks very
1:35:39
much about the high ideals and
how it's good to get away from
1:35:43
division and come together in
unity and all. That's what the L
1:35:46
Smith dinner is all about. We
haven't given up yet. We're not
1:35:49
used to this. We don't know how
to handle it. This hasn't
1:35:51
happened in 40 years, since
Walter Mondale turned down the
1:35:55
invitation, and remember, he
lost 49 out of 50 states. I
1:35:58
always say there's a direct
connection there, but so we're
1:36:02
not used to this, and we're not
giving up. You know, who's been
1:36:05
a help to us? Lauren is the
Senator Schumer and Governor
1:36:08
Hochul they're both. They both
are working hard to see that
1:36:12
they convince her to come still
a chance. Yeah, Senator Schumer
1:36:16
said to me, I he said, I don't
think she made the decision. I
1:36:19
think her schedule is saying she
can't make it, so we hope she's
1:36:24
here.
1:36:24
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, yeah.
Schedule. She doesn't do
1:36:28
anything, she doesn't have
interviews or do much of
1:36:30
anything, but her schedule has
interfered with this shirt.
1:36:34
Adam Curry: I thought that this
election cycle our fourth now in
1:36:37
the life of the show, I thought
it was going to be really sick
1:36:40
of it, but it's kind of taken an
interesting twist. This is,
1:36:43
they're all different. This is
very different because this is
1:36:46
not a serious candidate. She's
just not,
1:36:50
John C Dvorak: yeah, she does,
you know, in fact, she's lazy.
1:36:53
We've discussed this, yes and
yes. This is just too much work.
1:36:58
At some point she goes, I want
to go to this thing for
1:37:02
Adam Curry: if I don't want to,
I just, I can't talk, don't want
1:37:05
to do this. And you follow the
whole Janet Jackson thing that
1:37:10
was pretty funny.
1:37:12
Unknown: Yes, I did. She's not
black. Yeah, she
1:37:15
Adam Curry: not, she not black.
And the view, of course, had to
1:37:18
have a whole long conversation
about it. If you want to hear
1:37:23
that or not, you got that? Of
course, I got it. You want to
1:37:27
hear it first, let's play the
1:37:29
John C Dvorak: actually, we
should probably protest view
1:37:32
clips.
1:37:32
Unknown: Janet Jackson is not
backing down from the wild
1:37:35
statements she made about Kamala
Harris. She's not black. Jackson
1:37:39
told The Guardian newspaper, her
father's white. That's what I
1:37:42
was told. I was told that they
discovered her father was white.
1:37:45
Harris's father is black. He was
born in Jamaica, but Jackson
1:37:50
insisted on repeating the wacky
conspiracy theory first raised
1:37:53
by Donald Trump seven weeks ago.
I
1:37:55
didn't know she was black until
a number of years ago, when she
1:37:59
happened to turn black, and now
she wants to be known as Black.
1:38:02
Adam Curry: That's also not
true. The wacky conspiracy
1:38:05
theory came up years ago.
1:38:08
John C Dvorak: They came up
years ago, and that Trump clip
1:38:11
is out of context. Yes,
completely out of context.
1:38:14
Adam Curry: Anyway, here we go,
ladies and gentlemen, stand by,
1:38:17
because we're going to give you
a trigger warning
1:38:18
Unknown: at the tone a clip from
the view will be played shelter
1:38:22
in place.
1:38:24
Superstar Janet Jackson just did
a wide ranging interview with
1:38:29
British newspaper The Guardian.
But most of the focus is on when
1:38:34
she was asked her thoughts on VP
Kamala Harris possibly become
1:38:38
the first black female
president, she said she answered
1:38:42
by saying that she had heard
that Harris's father was white,
1:38:47
which we all know is false, and
a staffer claims that he was
1:38:50
fired for issuing an apology in
her name and that her team
1:38:55
certified he wasn't authorized
to speak on her behalf. Now
1:39:00
Jackson has not responded to
requests for comment. But no
1:39:03
matter how you feel about celebs
speaking out politically, you
1:39:08
know, is it okay to for somebody
to say, you know, I'm in you
1:39:12
know, I don't know, I made a
mistake?
1:39:15
Well, she hasn't said that. She
made a mistake. We don't know
1:39:18
what she said, because it's been
one thing and another. It's
1:39:20
Adam Curry: Anna Navarro. I
There's something dirty about
1:39:25
listening to the view, just you
feel just scuzzy, you know what?
1:39:29
I mean, just like this, like a
filth, dirt just comes over you
1:39:33
and like,
1:39:34
John C Dvorak: it's a creepy
show. Yes? Look, I
1:39:36
Unknown: think Janet Jackson,
like the
1:39:37
John C Dvorak: guests are all
creeps, yeah.
1:39:39
Adam Curry: Well, here's Anna
because, you know, they had a
1:39:41
whole conversation about this.
1:39:42
Unknown: Every other American,
whether you're a celebrity or
1:39:45
not, has a right to endorse,
support or not support whomever
1:39:50
they want. So she's got every
right to not like Kamala Harris
1:39:53
if she doesn't want to. But
that's not what she said. What
1:39:56
she doesn't know, what she did
was spread misinformation. Oh,
1:40:00
and I think it's very
irresponsible when you have a
1:40:02
platform the way Janet Jackson
does, platform to use that
1:40:06
platform.
1:40:07
Adam Curry: Janet Jackson
1:40:08
John C Dvorak: has a platform
does this, what is the name of
1:40:11
this platform? Janet
1:40:12
Adam Curry: social is the name
of her platform
1:40:14
Unknown: to spread
misinformation based on a racist
1:40:19
allegation by Donald Trump,
right? It was Donald Trump who
1:40:23
tried to say Kamala Harris just
turned black. So let's just go
1:40:26
through the 101 Kamala Harris
101 is the daughter of two
1:40:30
immigrants. Her mother is South
Asian from India. Her father is
1:40:34
black from Jamaica. Here is a
picture for all of you who need
1:40:39
or for Miss Jackson, if you're
nasty, you're the damage.
1:40:44
I feel like a picture of Kamala
also would have Kamala Harris
1:40:47
would have done the trick. But
1:40:48
Adam Curry: what's so great
about this is this, this
1:40:50
particular brand of gaslighting
is by looking at the nuance.
1:40:56
What it meant is meant by black.
You know, when we say black in
1:41:00
America, we typically mean ados,
American descent of slavery.
1:41:09
That's what Black is, and that's
what Barack Obama was not
1:41:14
Michelle Obama was is. She's got
other identity issues. So
1:41:20
they're really just, they're
really just, you know, cut
1:41:24
splitting hairs here over skin
color. This is the real racism.
1:41:29
John C Dvorak: Yep, this is,
this is, this is systemic
1:41:31
racism. On this show, the
1:41:33
Adam Curry: view is systemically
racist. Listen,
1:41:36
Unknown: we forget that we live
in information silos. This is so
1:41:39
different than how the media was
even 10 years ago, where people
1:41:42
largely got their news and their
information from legacy media,
1:41:45
where there was a level, what
1:41:47
Adam Curry: are you, lady? What
is legacy media compared to the
1:41:51
view your legacy media level
1:41:53
Unknown: of objectivity and a
fact check involved? So if you,
1:41:56
perhaps, for an example, get all
your news on Facebook, and you
1:42:00
lean right of center, that
algorithm is monetizing going to
1:42:03
tee up information that
reinforces your own beliefs. If
1:42:07
you're a Trump supporter online,
you very likely won't encounter
1:42:10
ever some of the worst things
that he has said. The same does
1:42:13
go for the left. I don't even
know the partisan breakdown of
1:42:16
what happened here, but my guess
is she's not looking at great
1:42:19
sources of media. And I say all
1:42:21
Adam Curry: this because, Janet
Jackson, you're watching the
1:42:23
wrong media.
1:42:24
Unknown: It's why I try to not
have judgment with Trump voters.
1:42:27
Instead, I try to engage them,
because I find people who are
1:42:30
highly educated, highly
successful that support him, but
1:42:34
they often don't know if some of
the biggest scandals are the
1:42:36
worst things that he said about
people or things that he's done.
1:42:40
And I think if you take the
judgment out and just kind of
1:42:43
get back to facts and trying to
persuade people, it helps,
1:42:46
Adam Curry: oh, because, you
know, really, it's the New World
1:42:49
Order. Who has determined this,
this
1:42:51
Unknown: is the number one most
severe warning in the short term
1:42:55
we have globally, misinformation
and disinformation. The World
1:42:59
Economic Forum said this is our
greatest
1:43:01
Adam Curry: the World Economic
Forum says it all well, must be
1:43:05
true, pump the brakes, risk
1:43:07
Unknown: in the next few years.
And it's not just this country.
1:43:09
It's everywhere. And a few
reasons you mentioned
1:43:13
John C Dvorak: misinformation
and disinformation, I like the
1:43:16
fact that they're discussing
this after years and years and
1:43:19
years as Sonny Hoskins saying
she was black, and it turns out
1:43:24
she's Spanish, and
1:43:26
Adam Curry: her ancestors were
slave owners. They were slave
1:43:29
owners. Oh, no, risk
1:43:32
Unknown: in the next few years.
And it's not just this country.
1:43:34
It's everywhere. And a few
reasons you mentioned that, you
1:43:38
know, you've got the algorithm,
but you also have internal
1:43:41
people like, you know, Donald
Trump, who ironically created or
1:43:44
coined the term fake news
willingly and on the daily, it
1:43:48
seems, perpetuating false
stories on purpose. But then you
1:43:51
also have foreign adversaries.
We recently learned of Russia
1:43:55
paying millions of dollars to
content creators doing this. Oh
1:44:00
boy. The big message here is
going back to like journalism.
1:44:04
Talk
1:44:04
Adam Curry: about your
misinformation, right there,
1:44:07
right there. Oh, well, Russia
was paying millions of dollars
1:44:12
to content creators. Now that's
not exactly what happened
1:44:16
creators
1:44:17
Unknown: to keep them doing
this. So the big message here is
1:44:21
going back to like journalism,
101 or just education, 101 which
1:44:25
is you never single source a
story when you're looking
1:44:29
anywhere in journalism, we're
always taught you have to back
1:44:32
it up in media. For as much
black as media gets, for being
1:44:35
leaning, we can get fired or in
trouble for not being able to
1:44:39
source where we got our story.
What
1:44:41
Adam Curry: this really is
about, What crap, well, aboot,
1:44:44
what this really is about, goes
back to Michael Jackson. And I
1:44:51
did not, I don't think I had got
the clip here, but when Michael
1:44:57
Jackson was being i. I believe,
based on my interactions with
1:45:02
Michael Jackson, he was asexual,
not a pedophile, for sure. Trump
1:45:09
came out because Trump knew him
pretty well, and Trump said, you
1:45:13
know, this is bull crap. He's
being railroaded. Oh, actually,
1:45:16
I have the clip here, and he's,
played with my kids, that he's
1:45:22
just, he's a guy who loves
children. He's a little child
1:45:25
like himself, but who was the
prosecutor, or maybe district
1:45:33
attorney at the time, who Kamala
Harris, ah, listen, like
1:45:39
Unknown: this can depend on the
testimony of the child accuser.
1:45:42
In general, the child will be
able to recall and recollect
1:45:47
with some detail the incident,
and that is persuasive to a
1:45:50
jury, even if it is the only
testimony that is available.
1:45:54
Jackson gave a wave when he
1:45:56
was released after booking. He's
scheduled for arraignment in
1:45:59
January.
1:46:01
Michael's been a long time
resident of Trump Tower last
1:46:04
night that Donald strongly
reiterated his defense of
1:46:06
Jackson with Larry King by going
after the accuser's mother.
1:46:10
She's had plenty of experience
at going after people, and she
1:46:14
goes after them viciously and
violently. And I saw a story,
1:46:18
and I read another story about
some of the things she's done,
1:46:22
and I don't believe it, but you
know
1:46:24
what it's like when indictment
comes down, it's tough, his
1:46:27
presumption, it's tough. It's
tough to win, but I have a
1:46:31
feeling he's going to win.
Larry, the interesting thing is,
1:46:34
I've known Michael from many
different standpoints, and
1:46:37
Michael would spend a lot of
time with my kids. I have
1:46:40
beautiful kids. And at the time,
like at Mar a Lago, and even in
1:46:43
Trump Tower, the kids were very
young, Michael would come play
1:46:46
with the kids. He just loved
children. He was not a child
1:46:51
molester.
1:46:53
Adam Curry: And so this is
what's really going on. This
1:46:55
John C Dvorak: is why flip
archive is unbelievable.
1:46:59
Adam Curry: This is why Janet
Jackson comes out and says, you
1:47:02
know, she's against Kamala
Harris, because she knows
1:47:04
exactly what Kamala Harris did
to Michael Jackson. It's amazing
1:47:09
that this comes back, isn't it,
1:47:12
John C Dvorak: and it's amazing
nobody else but you in this
1:47:14
case, because I sure didn't have
this picked up on this. This is
1:47:18
the kind of, kind of shallow
nature of the reporting we get
1:47:22
and analysis we get on
mainstream media and the view
1:47:25
and places like that. And
1:47:26
Adam Curry: with that, I'd like
to thank you for your courage
1:47:29
and say in the morning to you,
the man who put the sea in kudos
1:47:32
for Crowder. Say hello to my
friend on the other end, the one
1:47:35
only.
1:47:40
John C Dvorak: Mr. Morning to
you, Mr. Kraffi water, dames in
1:47:44
the air, and Dames in the air
and the nights and the dames out
1:47:47
there, yes,
1:47:48
Adam Curry: and we have a lot of
trolls.
1:47:55
I don't know what, what is
supposed to be good for a
1:47:57
Thursday, because I'm always
1800 Oh, we have 1992 at the
1:48:02
John C Dvorak: peak. All right.
All right, that's a peak. But
1:48:05
what's now?
1:48:06
Adam Curry: 1889 1898 1898
sounds right. Yeah, sounds
1:48:10
right. All right. We have a full
quorum. Hello, trolls. Good to
1:48:13
see you all here. I actually
gave the trolls crew kudos on
1:48:17
the new media show when I was
being into using you know, there
1:48:20
really making media show. The
new media show is Todd and Rob
1:48:25
in the afternoon.
1:48:27
John C Dvorak: Todd Rob in the
afternoon.
1:48:30
Adam Curry: Todd and Rob in the
afternoon. They're the
1:48:32
afternoons on the eighth,
they've been, they've been doing
1:48:37
that show for 18 years, or
something. No, that can't be
1:48:39
eight. They've been doing the
show for a long time. And then,
1:48:42
you know, Todd owns blueberry.
He's the he started one of the
1:48:46
first hosting companies,
blueberry. And Rob is he's
1:48:49
worked at every hosting company
in the world, and he also worked
1:48:52
at Microsoft on the Zune. He has
a his he has a very interesting
1:48:56
podcast career. So I talked
about the trolls. It's, well,
1:49:00
it's really the producers, but a
lot of the producers are trolls,
1:49:04
and they sit in our troll room
and and I think it's we were
1:49:08
leading 1516, years ago, when we
started by doing live shows. We
1:49:14
were, we were leading on this.
It's, it's the way the podcast
1:49:18
in the future will go. People
want to be a part of something.
1:49:22
So whether they're trolling, and
I might pick it up from time to
1:49:26
time, or they give us some
information, like JP Sears, you
1:49:29
know, it was the trolls are a
part of the show. That's what
1:49:32
differentiates us from radio.
Radio is like you can call in,
1:49:37
be called a 100 to win a t
shirt. Here, you're a part of
1:49:41
the show, man, you're part of
the show. And we do it twice a
1:49:45
week on Thursdays and Sundays,
and we're very happy to be here.
1:49:49
You can join the troll
room@trollroom.io you can listen
1:49:53
to the stream 24/7 right there,
and jump in and troll away. If
1:49:57
you want to mention
1:49:58
John C Dvorak: that Horowitz,
your protege. Also employs a
1:50:01
similar tactic. He does a troll
room, yes,
1:50:03
Adam Curry: and does he read
anything from the well, he calls
1:50:06
it the chat room. It's not
really a troll room, it's a chat
1:50:09
room over there, when you guys
do the show, but he's watching
1:50:12
what people say, right?
1:50:13
Unknown: Yeah, as far as I know,
yeah, well, I've
1:50:15
Adam Curry: taught him. Well,
Horowitz is good. He's a good
1:50:19
man. Love him. Good guy. Be
smart, has a future in this
1:50:23
game, as long as he sticks with
you. Because that's the secret.
1:50:27
We always got his own podcast
too. That's
1:50:29
John C Dvorak: pretty good.
1:50:30
Adam Curry: Yeah, the
disciplined investor, exactly he
1:50:33
had Scaramucci on the other day.
It's pretty funny.
1:50:36
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I missed
that one. I was gonna catch it
1:50:38
too. Well, it's
1:50:38
Adam Curry: a podcast. You can
go back and find it in your
1:50:40
modern podcast app. Oh, I never
thought it. Yes, your modern
1:50:43
podcast app, which you can
find@podcastapps.com be updated
1:50:47
within 90 seconds of the
publishing of this show and many
1:50:49
other shows. Todd actually, on
the new media show yesterday,
1:50:52
was reading off some more
takedowns from Spotify. You
1:50:55
know, they'll take down
individual episodes even. Oh,
1:50:58
John C Dvorak: we find that the
weirdest thing.
1:51:00
Adam Curry: Oh, you know,
1:51:01
John C Dvorak: we don't like
what you said there in the five
1:51:03
minute mark. So we're killing
this one. I
1:51:05
Adam Curry: think we're at 1212
now you just threw out another W
1:51:09
word. Sorry. It's, it's on you.
1:51:14
John C Dvorak: I don't even know
I did that.
1:51:17
Adam Curry: It's, it's bad
enough that we're both at 1212
1:51:20
I'm usually pretty good at this,
1:51:22
John C Dvorak: but there's no
you would have stopped at at
1:51:24
four. Yeah,
1:51:25
Adam Curry: this double this W
word has got a it is. It's very
1:51:29
nasty. It's a nasty, nasty word.
So we live on value for value. I
1:51:38
just did a 13 minute piece for a
Dutch conference, podcasts,
1:51:43
knowledge conference,
1:51:45
John C Dvorak: yeah, is that all
about all about value for value?
1:51:47
No, it's
1:51:48
Adam Curry: all about
advertising and marketing. I
1:51:50
just said, you know, that's all
great, but it's censorship. You
1:51:54
really want to go value form of
Yes, of course it is. If you
1:51:58
just even not being able to talk
about a competing product. It's
1:52:02
yourself. That's
1:52:02
John C Dvorak: why you won't see
that woman, uh, Jillian,
1:52:05
whatever her last name is,
1:52:07
Adam Curry: she'll never, she'll
never be on Fox again once
1:52:10
you're talking down the Big
Pharma. No way. Yep, she
1:52:12
John C Dvorak: talked to she
bought, and it was not, it was
1:52:15
people should go back and think
if they have that thing on tape
1:52:18
and listen to her, she goes off.
1:52:21
Adam Curry: I mean, if, if we
actually had advertisers, we
1:52:25
wouldn't be able to talk about
black rice, any coffee. Wouldn't
1:52:28
be able to talk about any, any
resume services, or any or a
1:52:34
good, good idea supply. You
know, because this, we have bad
1:52:38
idea supply, none of that. We
wouldn't be able to do any of
1:52:41
that bad. It's a great store.
You know, we wouldn't be able to
1:52:46
talk about Kirkland as we'd be
advertising for
1:52:51
Unknown: Costco, Costco,
1:52:53
John C Dvorak: though, Where's
our money from Costco? Where's
1:52:55
Adam Curry: our Costco check?
Everybody, a lot of people
1:52:58
picked up on that tip of yours
anyway, instead, it's value for
1:53:02
value time, talent or treasure,
where we just give you the show.
1:53:06
The show is out there. It's on
the podcast. All of them are
1:53:09
still in the feed. You can go
back, listen anytime, do
1:53:12
anything you want. You can copy
it. In fact, we encourage that.
1:53:15
We encourage you to copy it.
Hand it to people, put it other
1:53:18
places. Just leave it intact, so
that we have the thank you
1:53:22
segment in there, so we can
thank our producers, and you can
1:53:24
help us with time talent or
treasure that would be a great
1:53:27
talent or time move by helping
promote the show. And a lot of
1:53:30
people do that. We have people
who we've never set up. And this
1:53:34
is another part of our of our
genius. We didn't know it at the
1:53:36
time, but you know, getting
websites up and running and
1:53:41
managing servers is very costly.
We don't have money for that.
1:53:45
We're not CNET. We don't have
free food. In fact, the
1:53:49
opposite, we don't have any any
Caboose with free food out
1:53:53
there. So instead, producers
have an obligation to work on
1:53:57
the show and help out, and that
one time when there's a topic
1:54:00
that is something that you know
about, you need to email us,
1:54:03
which is usually just me,
because it's hard to spell
1:54:06
Dvorak, and you say, Hey,
1:54:08
John C Dvorak: I have any
complaints?
1:54:10
Adam Curry: I Well, we just got
a note from one of our friends
1:54:14
about Boeing. You know, Boeing
just had the best and final
1:54:19
contract offer. Am I? Amongst
this strike, and one of our
1:54:24
producers, who works in the
business, I don't want to
1:54:30
disclose, says Boeing and
Washington State, California and
1:54:34
Oklahoma have let all of their
contract engineers go, and now
1:54:38
they hear them talking about
furloughing the direct employee
1:54:41
engineers for one week each
month to save cash flow the 737
1:54:47
Max, the failed space capsule,
fired Space Defense executive
1:54:52
and now a union mechanic strike.
I'm hearing from several buddies
1:54:56
at other aircrafts company or
aircraft companies. They're.
1:55:00
Calling me looking for a new
gig, as other companies related
1:55:03
to this now are preparing to cut
so Boeing is, I think they're
1:55:09
dead in the water. John, I
really think that, you know,
1:55:13
John C Dvorak: this is not dead
in the water, because our
1:55:15
government so, well, okay,
1:55:18
Adam Curry: well, someone's got
to take this over. This is, this
1:55:20
is, isn't this? Where's Elon?
Where's
1:55:23
John C Dvorak: Soros? No, Elon.
1:55:26
Adam Curry: Elon, yeah. Elon, he
could take it over. Yeah. He
1:55:29
could do it. Yeah. Well, the
space division, I know about
1:55:32
airplanes. I guess you could do
that. He could do it. Those
1:55:35
Chinese airplanes look pretty
good. Yeah, that's where it's
1:55:39
headed. I would fly them. I
don't think I'm not too worried
1:55:42
about the Chinese 737, knockoff.
It looks okay. You get an
1:55:46
airworthiness certificate. It's
good, yeah, best price.
1:55:51
John C Dvorak: I'm sure it's the
best price.
1:55:54
Adam Curry: We also have artists
who do a lot of prompt jockeying
1:56:00
these days, although I don't
think this one was a necessarily
1:56:05
an AI creation the now you can
see all of the artwork that is
1:56:10
submitted. No agenda. Art
generator.com. Another website
1:56:14
we didn't make another fine
example of value for value.
1:56:18
Thank you, sir. Paul couture,
nestworks came in for Episode
1:56:22
1697, we titled that Nido, Nido,
which is spelled lowercase, N,
1:56:28
E, A, T, dash O, Nido, and had
just this interesting collage, I
1:56:34
would say, of our AI segment
with a robot and the and the
1:56:42
notebook, LM, buckle up, and the
Walkman, which of course, was
1:56:47
the exploding Walkman within the
hizzy, which is about our, our
1:56:52
Oprah takeoff, even has John's
oasis in there. It was, it was
1:56:56
a, it was just a collage of
stuff with some graffiti type
1:57:00
lettering, which we liked, and
so we chosen, we appreciate the
1:57:05
work that nestworks did on that
one. I don't think it
1:57:07
John C Dvorak: had to be a if
there was any AI involved, it
1:57:10
had to be a hybrid. Yeah, it
could be hybrid. Yeah. You get
1:57:14
your main thing, and then you
jump on it, and you hit the
1:57:18
graphic, and then you add this
other stuff, and a lot of
1:57:20
otherwise, it's just, I don't
know what prompted you is to get
1:57:23
all those crazy things going on.
Yeah,
1:57:26
Adam Curry: well, a lot of,
well, it's only going to get
1:57:28
worse. You know, the more people
put I mean, I tried to do a logo
1:57:33
the other day, and it misspells
the words and it does
1:57:40
John C Dvorak: 13. Borowitz is
using it for the art, for a DH
1:57:43
unplugged,
1:57:43
Adam Curry: yeah, well, it'll
progress. It will get worse.
1:57:46
It'll get worse. It'll get
worse.
1:57:48
John C Dvorak: Might get worse,
1:57:48
Adam Curry: might get better.
Will it get it'll it might get
1:57:52
better. They
1:57:52
John C Dvorak: don't give you
one choice. You usually get four
1:57:54
choices every time you put a
prompt in, yeah. And then you or
1:57:58
more, depending on your system,
yeah, and, you know, then you
1:58:01
could massage it a couple of
times. I think sometimes it
1:58:04
takes longer to do it that way
than actually do
1:58:06
Adam Curry: that. I literally
had to ask five times. No spell,
1:58:10
no agenda. It'd be like, no
adjourn. You know, it couldn't
1:58:15
get no agenda, right? I don't
know why it was. It's very, very
1:58:20
uh, quotes, yes, yes,
unpredictable results. So we had
1:58:26
sir net Ned, who had a nice, a
hot take or two, nice piece of
1:58:29
art, but didn't
1:58:30
John C Dvorak: really we had one
piece we were going to comment
1:58:33
on which, well
1:58:35
Adam Curry: we liked the
stowaway by scaramango. We kind
1:58:38
of, it was between the yes we
did the art we chose. And
1:58:42
scaramangos Mouse, which was
very cute. There's a little
1:58:44
mouse there in the in the
broccoli and carrots. Uh, what
1:58:50
else there was, uh, hot takes
with two old Adam and John's,
1:58:53
which we're never going to
choose, that we're gonna like,
1:58:55
make ourselves look like old
white dudes.
1:58:58
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we're
already old white dudes. Who
1:58:59
needs it? Seriously. What else
who needs the aggravation?
1:59:04
Adam Curry: Puffy's Bad Boy oil,
which was just Nico signed, was
1:59:07
too simple. Was too simple. I
don't remember what we're gonna
1:59:10
comment on other it had to be
the scare manga mouse. Yeah,
1:59:14
what was wrong with the scare?
It was, he was too cute.
1:59:17
John C Dvorak: No, it just
wasn't as interesting overall.
1:59:20
And it was a mouse and food,
and, yeah, it was kind of gross,
1:59:23
as you think about it. I think
there was just something
1:59:25
repulsive about the idea. I
1:59:27
Adam Curry: like Parker, Parker
Polly's P Diddy in the Epstein
1:59:31
suite. Very, very dark, very
dark humor. But thank you. Thank
1:59:39
you, artists. The people who do
the real work are Dutch masters,
1:59:42
and it shows every single time.
We can pick them right out, like
1:59:45
nestworks, right up there with
Ram Brandt and Van Gogh. This is
1:59:48
beautiful. No agenda, Art
Generator.
1:59:51
John C Dvorak: Much of this is
frameable. Oh, most of it is
1:59:54
frameable.
1:59:55
Adam Curry: I mean, it's just,
it's beautiful. Oh, you know, I
1:59:59
got a note. From, and
2:00:01
John C Dvorak: you can get by
the way you can go. When you
2:00:04
click on these, you can see
there's a huge version, there's
2:00:07
different sizes, and you can
click on the big, giant size,
2:00:09
download that, and you can print
it out. I want to frame it. I
2:00:12
want to
2:00:12
Adam Curry: remind everybody
that a lot of this art shows up
2:00:14
at no agenda shop.com, on T
shirts, hats, hoodies, koozies,
2:00:19
all kinds of wonderful products.
No agenda shop.com and I got a
2:00:24
note from one of our producers,
who was a millennial, and he
2:00:27
sent me a beautiful note he owns
and started with his wife, the
2:00:31
company, Opie way. Are you
familiar with this? No, o, p, i,
2:00:36
e, way.com, Opie way.com, makes
handcrafted sneakers from suede
2:00:43
and leather, and a very
beautiful high end product,
2:00:46
really, yeah, take a look at it.
Op, way calm. And he's been,
2:00:50
he's in, you know, in, O, P, A,
O, P, I, E, W, A, y, O, P, way,
2:00:56
op, way.com, and, yes, nice
product, very nice. Oh yeah,
2:01:02
these are fancy looking. Yeah,
fancy looking. The other kind
2:01:05
you can wear under your suit if
you go to the Academy Awards and
2:01:08
you're a hipster. And he says,
you know, you guys have kept us
2:01:13
sane while we were building this
company. I just want you to know
2:01:17
there's some millennials who are
grinding away, and this is
2:01:21
grinding away for sure, yeah.
And he says, you know, and your
2:01:23
show has really helped us, and
we appreciate it, and it's named
2:01:27
after that kid. They have two
young two young kids. One is
2:01:30
named Opie, the other one's
named way I forget that right?
2:01:35
No, forget that name. And he
says, Is it okay if we make a no
2:01:40
agenda sneaker. I said
absolutely. You know, same
2:01:43
parameters as the shop. Don't
put our faces on it, but you can
2:01:46
use
2:01:47
John C Dvorak: it. You know,
funny if you put no agenda on
2:01:49
the side of one of these
sneakers, because he's, he's
2:01:52
does a demo on this on his
website here with a Nike logo.
2:01:56
And if you, if that was no
agenda stylized on the side, and
2:01:59
you wore these sneakers around,
no, it would not necessarily be
2:02:02
associated with this show. It
would just be kind of a cool,
2:02:05
yeah, very it's a cool,
2:02:06
Adam Curry: cool sneaker. Yeah,
I said, you know, do the same as
2:02:10
the shop, like you do whatever
you do. You be you boo, and send
2:02:13
us a donation from time to time.
If it works out, we don't want
2:02:16
any shoes that wouldn't hurt.
Well, you sound like, Tina,
2:02:21
she's like, Hey, I want some
sneakers. He
2:02:25
Unknown: wasn't offering
2:02:27
Adam Curry: sneakers to you, but
I want some sneak you don't even
2:02:30
wear sneakers. Well, wear these.
These are beautiful, anyway. So
2:02:36
just another way that time towns
and treasure fits into our
2:02:41
entire system here, and this is
the moment in the show we like
2:02:44
to thank our executive and
Associate Executive producers.
2:02:47
Lots of people donate to the
show. You can donate in any
2:02:50
amount you want, as often as you
want, however you want to do it.
2:02:54
Some people haven't donated in
10 years, and they say, oh, you
2:02:56
know, it's about time for me to
do something here, which is all
2:02:59
fine, it's all good. It's value
for value, whatever value you
2:03:03
get out of the show. We just ask
you to send it back to us.
2:03:06
That's all. It's that simple, by
the way, did I hear you had a
2:03:10
one hour conversation with Steve
Gibson about newsletter
2:03:13
software? Yeah, I did, as a
matter of fact, yeah, everyone
2:03:18
knows about this.
2:03:20
John C Dvorak: Well, he was he
doing talking about it. Talked
2:03:22
about it with Leo. Oh,
2:03:25
Adam Curry: so did you learn
anything? Yeah, well, a little
2:03:28
bit, yeah, are we? Are you going
to switch up and use something,
2:03:31
some different program? What are
you gonna do? We
2:03:33
John C Dvorak: talked about this
on the show already. A little
2:03:35
bit. You poo pooed the idea. And
I said, I'm gonna go ahead.
2:03:38
Anyway. Okay. No, he has, he
has, it's, you know, he's not a
2:03:43
come. He's not doing his
newsletter The way we do ours.
2:03:48
Ours are, ours are a specific
type of newsletter that he
2:03:52
doesn't do. And so I'm not sure
about the effectiveness. But
2:03:55
yes, we had a long chat about
that and other gossipy things,
2:03:59
which he didn't obviously
mentioned. Oh, gosh, we're
2:04:02
definitely insightful.
2:04:04
Adam Curry: Oh, you tell me
after the show you share.
2:04:07
Unknown: Come on. Oh, I
2:04:08
Adam Curry: can't let's hurry
up. Let's get to the end of the
2:04:10
show. I can't wait. So we always
want to thank everybody who
2:04:15
supports us. You can do
sustaining donations, which is
2:04:18
any amount, any frequency, you
can set that up at no agenda
2:04:21
donations.com. Again, no agenda
donations.com. One more time,
2:04:24
that's no agenda donations.com.
Three times, and you remember it
2:04:27
for the rest of your life.
2:04:29
John C Dvorak: What was it?
2:04:30
Adam Curry: No agenda
donations.com. Four times they
2:04:32
forget it. But we not just thank
people. We hand out credits for
2:04:40
production of this show and the
way it works in Hollywood, if
2:04:42
you pay money for the
production, you get a producer
2:04:45
credit, in this case, $200 or
above, we read your note and you
2:04:49
get an Associate Executive
producer credit. $300 and above,
2:04:52
we read your note and you get an
executive producer credit, and
2:04:55
we kick it off today. Mind
blown, sir. Pursuit of peace and
2:04:59
tranquil. Ability from Midland,
Georgia comes in with the
2:05:03
rubbilizer donation of $3,333.33
2:05:07
Unknown: Mike standby, 3333
2:05:15
Adam Curry: 33 rubbleizer out
and he sent a notes with this
2:05:19
donation handwritten. And he
says, in the morning, boys, I am
2:05:23
donating 333333, to mark my one
year anniversary for donating to
2:05:28
the show monthly. Wow, we must
be very valuable to him. Plus,
2:05:33
he says, I'm tired of seeing
that sad puppy every week.
2:05:36
Helpful. Hopefully this helps.
What does this week? On a recent
2:05:39
camping trip in the BWCA, I hid
a good friend, liberal Paul from
2:05:45
Ohio, in the mouth, and would
appreciate it if you'd call him
2:05:48
out as a douchebag, as a good
friend, he will appreciate it.
2:05:55
Bet they will love the show and
appreciate your deconstruction
2:05:58
of the media based on the
attached accounting. Please
2:06:00
grant me the title of Earl
sincerely sir, pursuit of peace
2:06:04
and tranquility in the lands of
red clay and cherry trees, and
2:06:09
you are on the list, sir. Thank
you very much for your support
2:06:12
of the no agenda show.
2:06:16
John C Dvorak: Yes. Thanks a
lot. And whilst staying in the
2:06:19
south, we go to Alabama, so
Leighton in Dothan, Dothan dot
2:06:22
and Dothan 533, 33 which is no
slouch of a donation, that's a
2:06:26
Commodore Commodore, yes, is our
Commodore promotion. Uh,
2:06:30
Thursday night we are heading or
writing out a hurricane Helene
2:06:35
here in southeast Alabama. And
so it's a great time to donate
2:06:39
and Listen Live, really. I mean,
you might not be able to listen
2:06:42
live and pray and request
prayers for those affected, as
2:06:46
always. Love the show. They get
a lot of wind. They do have a
2:06:49
windy one. Yes, love the show
and look forward to each
2:06:51
episode. So sir Layton,
2:06:54
Adam Curry: I haven't had time
to look into it, but a lot of
2:06:56
people are telling me the
weather charts are showing
2:06:59
something different than what
they believe is happening
2:07:03
John C Dvorak: that that this
show, please elaborate that
2:07:05
they're showing
2:07:06
Adam Curry: this as being a very
severe storm when they believe
2:07:08
it is not. I've seen video that
looks pretty windy to me, so I'm
2:07:14
not sure. I haven't had
2:07:16
John C Dvorak: interstates.
They're supposed to be
2:07:18
sustaining at about 65 miles an
hour with gusts up to 90,
2:07:22
Adam Curry: which is, is that a
cat one
2:07:25
John C Dvorak: it's in that air
or area, it's not gonna I mean,
2:07:28
once it hits the land, it just
falls apart. Falls apart.
2:07:31
Adam Curry: Yeah, all right.
Well, of course, of course.
2:07:33
Prayer request. Prayer flare
received, sir layron, John G and
2:07:38
Deerfield Beach, Florida, 525, a
Commodore for him, he says,
2:07:41
Commodore donation got it also.
Producers, are you dehydrated?
2:07:50
Producers, are you dehydrated?
Oh, I am. I'm parched. Check out
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this great iPhone and Apple
Watch app. It's called P water
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tracker replacement. No water
tracking. Just tap a button when
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you pee to track your hydration.
People love it. Not a joke. All
2:08:10
right, I don't have an Apple
Watch, but comics, your blogger,
2:08:12
I'm sure, will let me know how
well it works. He's all in on
2:08:15
the Apple ecosystem. Thank you,
John. We'll see you at the
2:08:18
Commodore commodoring,
Commodore, yes, as a Commodore,
2:08:23
if
2:08:25
John C Dvorak: I count silver,
due to the silver dolphins in
2:08:27
Eldersburg, Maryland, comes in
with 500 I knew it had been a
2:08:32
full year since my last
donation. I had been feeling
2:08:34
guilty about that with all of
the sad puppies going around,
2:08:36
I've been job. The sad puppy has
long term effect. I guess. Yes,
2:08:40
I've been jobless as of late. My
choice. I'm on a steady break
2:08:44
for the CISSP certification.
What
2:08:47
Adam Curry: is that? What is
CISSP?
2:08:49
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Look it up. I will, so the funds
2:08:52
don't go as far as they used to.
However, I just saw John's
2:08:55
latest newsletter announcing the
no agenda Commodore promotion,
2:08:59
and I knew this was the moment
to end my douchebaggery. So
2:09:02
here's five Benji's to keep the
train of rolling and hopefully
2:09:07
move to come and more to come
before another year passes. It
2:09:10
also happens that my little my
title changes from vicount to
2:09:13
Earl, and there's another Earl
with this donation to all the
2:09:17
other producers and trolls.
Let's end the year stronger than
2:09:21
we found it no jingles, but some
lovely goat karma to my brother
2:09:24
battling a series of health
issues. Soon to be Earl silver,
2:09:28
silver due to the silver
dolphins. No agenda, Commodore,
2:09:32
US and US Navy, retired bassist
cyber strike
2:09:37
Adam Curry: and CISSP is
Certified Information System
2:09:41
Security Professional.
2:09:44
John C Dvorak: That's a job that
lasts for life. That
2:09:46
Adam Curry: is a good job.
Here's your goat man. Thank you
2:09:48
very much. You've
2:09:49
Unknown: got karma.
2:09:53
Adam Curry: And Sir Daniels
checks in at no agenda
2:09:55
donations.com he's the Knight of
the Lake Highlands in Dallas,
2:09:58
Texas, 500 Dollars. He says,
Commodore Coleman, Commodore of
2:10:02
Coleman County, Knight of Lake
Highlands and Duke of the
2:10:05
Republic of Texas. That's all we
need to know. You're on the
2:10:09
list. Thank you. You will be
receiving your Commodore ship.
2:10:13
John C Dvorak: Go to Pittsburgh,
Pennsylvania for Sir David
2:10:15
French, who comes to the 500
bucks Commodore level. Please
2:10:18
keep up the good work. Great
work, John and Adam Sir David
2:10:21
French, Baron of bits and bytes
in bourbon. Baron
2:10:25
Adam Curry: Marky Mark is in
vaidyness, that's in the
2:10:27
Netherlands 500 The show has
been a constant in my life for
2:10:32
almost 17 years now. Thanks for
the value guys. Keep it up.
2:10:37
Baron Marky Mark from uster lake
in the Netherlands, Commodore
2:10:41
ship for you.
2:10:44
John C Dvorak: I find it
interesting that somebody could
2:10:46
listen to those early shows and
still be listening. Eric r5 100,
2:10:51
I would like to be Commodore 64
or if that's taken, no, we can
2:10:57
be, you know, we can have a lot
of Commodore 64 is, if anybody
2:11:01
wants that, if that's taking
Commodore Amiga, of
2:11:05
Adam Curry: course, that's no
problem, and we'll put it on the
2:11:07
certificate, right,
2:11:09
John C Dvorak: if that's what
they want, sure. Ron
2:11:11
Adam Curry: mills in Florence,
South Carolina, 500 you may call
2:11:14
me Commodore Ronbo, King of the
pugs. Love the show. Very happy
2:11:19
to donate to the cause. There's
Ron mills. Thank
2:11:22
Unknown: you. Ron king of the
pugs, yeah,
2:11:25
Adam Curry: it's good, man. It's
good. He's good.
2:11:28
John C Dvorak: Steven McConnell
comes in from Cortland, Ohio,
2:11:31
500 another Commodore, but says
no note.
2:11:34
Adam Curry: Then he gets a
double up donation. You've
2:11:36
Unknown: got karma
2:11:41
Adam Curry: do the one in the
troll room says he's been here
2:11:43
since show number three. All
right. Do the one you do it boy,
2:11:48
sir hair wheel hair heel, sorry,
sir hair heel. White Salmon,
2:11:52
Washington. He dips down to 333,
dot 33 says, Thank you for your
2:11:56
courage. Can I have some jobs
and F cancer karma, please? Of
2:12:00
course, you can
2:12:05
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs.
2:12:09
Let's vote for jobs.
2:12:14
John C Dvorak: Okay, we got our
first switcheroo. And by the
2:12:16
way, a Commodore ship would be a
great gift Walker Campbell in
2:12:22
Fleetwood, North Carolina. 333,
switcheroo. This birthday
2:12:26
donation is on behalf of our
brother who punched us in the
2:12:30
mouth over five years ago. We
can't thank you. Enough,
2:12:33
crackpot and Buzzkill. What's
2:12:35
Adam Curry: his brother's name?
2:12:39
John C Dvorak: Now here doesn't
say, oh boy, Walter Campbell's
2:12:43
brother, Walter, now you now, if
you're ever in Southern Vermont,
2:12:48
make sure to visit his business,
the crooked RAM restaurant, bar
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and cafe in Manchester, no
renowned for world class
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seafood, wood fired pizza,
natural wines and impeccable
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vibes. Seriously. Book your
reservation now if you want some
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unpretentious gourmet offerings
that leave you ruminating on the
2:13:10
glorious aspects of life a true
oasis in the chaos of our modern
2:13:15
world, we wish everybody peace,
happiness and health and
2:13:19
blessings from our angels,
ancestors and the almighty Big
2:13:25
E, Hondo energy, visit the
crooked RAM. Vt.com today.
2:13:32
Adam Curry: Big E, Hondo energy,
beautiful. Thank you. Walter. Do
2:13:38
John C Dvorak: to be a plug for
the restroom.
2:13:40
Adam Curry: Sure seems that way.
Duke of Switzerland, sir Sander
2:13:44
from zandam, who doesn't know
him, he says, can you make this
2:13:50
a triple make it rain. Donation.
Oh, still in love with Bambi,
2:13:55
Raven and the other girl we see.
I didn't expect that we have
2:14:01
Bambi. Was there another girl? I
don't think there was another
2:14:04
girl at Club 33 was there?
2:14:06
John C Dvorak: I don't remember.
I mean, probably,
2:14:10
Adam Curry: um, let me see Bambi
Raven. Oh, well, we had no Raven
2:14:17
from Reseda and Bambi No. So I
can only do two. I only can do
2:14:21
two. Keep on producing. Best
podcasting university or Duke of
2:14:25
Switzerland, sir Sander from
zandam, up
2:14:30
Unknown: next, Bambi. Bambi onto
the stage. Give it up.
2:14:42
Adam Curry: Raven, some classic
stuff there.
2:14:43
John C Dvorak: All right, Matt
Bernier in Manassas Virginia
2:14:47
comes in. He's a first executive
producer, 280 201. Associate,
2:14:51
Executive Associate. I'm sorry
the show has been a big
2:14:55
contributor to my sanity as I
navigate it is a long note by.
2:15:00
Of the way as I navigate the
fallen world while trying to
2:15:03
remain hopeful and cheerful joy.
This donation is for your
2:15:08
courage and commitment to truth
over neutrality, truth over
2:15:13
neutral. That's interesting. I
like, yeah, we're committed to
2:15:16
truth over neutrality. That's
2:15:18
Adam Curry: a bumper sticker.
2:15:19
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think so.
And to offset the haters trying
2:15:21
to call you out as having an
agenda which, even if true good,
2:15:26
the pursuit of what is right and
true. Trump's a podcast title
2:15:30
all day long. Thanks for doing
the work. Okay, perhaps the only
2:15:36
thing worse than the leftist
noodle boy is the modern man who
2:15:39
ignores all, ignores all
glowing, glowing, glaring
2:15:42
evidence while chasing some
lofty and unattainable goal of
2:15:46
complete and utter neutrality, I
don't think anybody does that,
2:15:50
usually accompanied by a claim
of I'm not political, or I'm not
2:15:55
gonna talk politics, and usually
for social reasons, I eat An
2:16:00
attempt not to lose favor with
his wife. You got a problem
2:16:03
already. There you go. That's
not good for fear of being
2:16:07
called racist or worse. Orange
is brave enough to have a
2:16:13
position fence sitters and
independents in 2024 are nothing
2:16:18
more than liberals and
libertarian clothing. We all
2:16:21
have an agenda. It's just that
some are more closely aligned
2:16:24
with courage and a sense of
what's right, rather than
2:16:28
cowardice and selfishness. Keep
the Faith fear into this guy's
2:16:32
like this like a psycho note.
Fear not and pray ceaselessly in
2:16:37
Christ. Future, sir. Uh has
amaticus PS Adam is right about
2:16:42
the tobacco companies in the
food drug industry. Please also
2:16:46
wish my smoking hot wife Audrey,
a happy birthday. Her birthday
2:16:50
is on the 26th jingles, don't
enslave me. Camel and noodle,
2:16:54
gun pasta, Glock. Oh, mac and
cheese, cheap cheddar version.
2:16:58
JC, ghostly, donate. Jingle, oh,
I'm
2:17:01
Adam Curry: sorry I that didn't
show up on my spreadsheet. Hold
2:17:04
on a second. Don't enslave me.
Camela, yeah. Noodle gun. Noodle
2:17:08
gun, hold on a second. Sound,
geez. Noodle gun, cheese, mac
2:17:13
and cheese, the cheap cheddar.
2:17:15
John C Dvorak: Okay and donate
cheddar.
2:17:19
Adam Curry: Okay and donate.
Jeez, I'm sorry I missed all of
2:17:23
those I didn't realize. Yeah,
2:17:26
John C Dvorak: you're good
enough to crank them out.
2:17:28
Unknown: What's this? What is
this? Do enslave me? Camel out.
2:17:32
I got
2:17:42
them up to my pasta Glock,
locked and loaded.
2:17:46
You slaves can get used to mac
and cheese, mac and cheese, mac
2:17:50
and cheese, macaroni
2:17:51
John C Dvorak: and cheap chatter
melted together, mac and cheese,
2:17:55
Unknown: mac and cheese, mac and
cheese, mac
2:17:58
and cheese. You've got donate
2:18:02
your donate karma.
2:18:07
Adam Curry: All right, let's
keep them a little shorter.
2:18:11
People.
2:18:13
John C Dvorak: Phillip Veenstra
and shy, this should be yours
2:18:16
when I read it. Okay, in
Chatham, Illinois, 262 dot 60
2:18:21
Dear John and Adam today, 926 is
my eldest daughter's Ella's 19th
2:18:25
birthday. This is her first
birthday away from home. Oh, she
2:18:29
bravely chose to move 900 miles
away and start the next stage of
2:18:32
her life at Coastal Carolina
University. She has more street
2:18:36
smarts and common sense than
most of her peers. For this, I
2:18:39
am proud. Happy birthday, Ella,
Mom and I love you very much.
2:18:43
Your sister and brother,
especially your sister, Miss you
2:18:45
more than you know. Love mom and
dad. 262 60. Oh, that's
2:18:50
Adam Curry: so sweet. Yeah, you
could also just pick up the
2:18:53
phone and call Yes. How
2:18:55
John C Dvorak: about that for an
idea.
2:18:57
Adam Curry: Thank you. Phillip
Eli, the coffee guys in
2:19:00
bensonville, Illinois, 209 26
boots on the ground from
2:19:03
Chicagoland, the local Costco
did not have the box Bordeaux
2:19:06
set. Instead, they have a box
set of European wines, which
2:19:10
includes a Bordeaux Spanish,
Italian and Portuguese reds for
2:19:13
$37 I haven't worked my way
through the mall yet, but the
2:19:17
Italian montpluciano, multiple
Gianna, multiple chiana went
2:19:23
well with the goat chops on the
grill I made the other day.
2:19:25
Still a deal goat
2:19:26
John C Dvorak: shops, a guy who
knows what he's doing with,
2:19:31
Adam Curry: yeah, he doesn't
know what he's doing with 90
2:19:35
plus point wines for under $10 a
bottle. Can I get a goat scream?
2:19:39
Karma, although I do love wine
at gigawatt Coffee roasters.com
2:19:43
our passion is coffee. So try a
bag for under $10 when you use
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code ITM 20 at checkout and stay
caffeinated. Says, Eli the
2:19:51
coffee guy,
2:19:53
Unknown: you've got karma.
2:19:58
John C Dvorak: Lupe. In, all
right? In Lakewood, yes. And she
2:20:03
says, jobs karma, she wants. She
came in with $200 and
2:20:08
surprisingly, she asked for jobs
karma. Friend says, For a resume
2:20:13
that gets results. Go to
imagemakers inc.com, for all
2:20:15
your executive resume and job
search needs, that's
2:20:17
imagemakers. Inc, with the k.com
I did it. Or find Linda Liu,
2:20:22
Duchess of jobs and writer of
resumes on the producer list,
2:20:25
jobs,
2:20:26
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote
2:20:30
for jobs karma. And
2:20:33
Adam Curry: finally, our last
Associate Executive Producer,
2:20:36
Austin McCullough in Hudson,
Wisconsin. Live donation. Thanks
2:20:40
for what you do. Knights hail
repair, Hudson, Wisconsin,
2:20:44
Austin, Texas. Hmm, okay, so
he's in Austin, Texas, or, I
2:20:49
don't know that's the note. And
thank you very much to all of
2:20:52
our executive and Associate
Executive producers for
2:20:54
producing episode 1698 on
towards 1700 the Commodores will
2:21:00
be honored a little bit, and of
course, we'll thank people $50
2:21:03
and above, but again, thank you
to our execs. These titles are
2:21:06
real. Use them anywhere. Titles
are
2:21:10
Unknown: recognized. We go out.
We
2:21:12
hit people in the mouth range.
2:21:28
John C Dvorak: I picked up a
pretty good analysis of
2:21:30
Hezbollah,
2:21:32
Unknown: Hezbollah Hezbollah
Hezbollah Hezbollah that
2:21:37
John C Dvorak: I thought was be
would people should listen to,
2:21:40
because it is, it kind of levels
out the playing field here,
2:21:46
since we're promoting Israel on
this show, it seems, uh huh. But
2:21:55
first, can we, let's play a kind
of a an overview. This is the I
2:22:00
have two overviews, one from
Democracy Now, which hates
2:22:04
Israel, yes, and it does. You
might as well play the warning
2:22:09
if you want warning.
2:22:11
Unknown: Amy Goodman, Cliff
2:22:12
inbound,
2:22:13
Adam Curry: all right, is that
one first? Yeah, please.
2:22:17
Unknown: 10s of 1000s of people
to fled southern Lebanon as
2:22:21
Israel's military continues its
intense artillery and missile
2:22:25
attacks. Lebanon's health
ministry reports the death toll
2:22:28
has climbed to at least 599
people, including 50 children.
2:22:35
Meanwhile, Hezbollah launched
dozens of drones and rockets at
2:22:38
Israel, including a long range
missile fired toward Tel Aviv
2:22:42
that was intercepted by Israeli
air defense systems. Israeli
2:22:46
public media is reporting
Israeli Defense Minister Yoav
2:22:50
gallant is readying troops for a
possible ground invasion of
2:22:54
Lebanon in Beirut. Officials say
they've secured shelters for
2:22:59
10,000 people displaced from
southern Lebanon, some of the
2:23:04
evacuees were forced into the
same shelters they fled to
2:23:07
nearly two decades ago during
Israel's july 2006 assault. This
2:23:12
is fairly a mess and a 58 year
old man who narrowly survived, a
2:23:17
58 year old who narrowly
survived a strike that destroyed
2:23:21
her family home.
2:23:24
The rocket
2:23:27
landed in front of me. I was
shocked. I couldn't hear or see
2:23:30
after that, I
2:23:32
Adam Curry: heard on the
military channels that IDF has
2:23:36
been given the go for the ground
invasion into Lebanon.
2:23:40
John C Dvorak: Well, I found a
whole and there's another report
2:23:42
here from NTD, but I'm going to
skip that one. The the we're not
2:23:48
given any background on this as
meaningful in the mainstream
2:23:52
media. And so again, NTD found
one of these guys who can give
2:23:58
us some background. And when you
listen to it, you realize that
2:24:02
the Israelis should do what
they're going to do, which is
2:24:05
ground invade. And I want to
play these as four clips and
2:24:09
this animal and analysis. L got
LZ has one Gotcha. And here to
2:24:15
discuss the
2:24:15
Unknown: latest developments in
the Middle East. With us is
2:24:18
David warmsert, Middle East
affairs analyst at the Center
2:24:21
for Security Policy. David,
thank you so much for joining
2:24:23
us. Great to see you again. Now
to begin as Israel and Hezbollah
2:24:26
trade strikes, Israel's military
chief says there could be a
2:24:30
possible ground incursion into
Lebanon. What would that look
2:24:33
like? Is this another war? Well,
2:24:36
it's good to be with you,
Tiffany, I think another ground
2:24:40
invasion is this would be the
third Israel would would have to
2:24:44
do over a period of 40 years. If
it happens. I would imagine it
2:24:50
would happen fairly soon. The
Israelis need to move Hezbollah
2:24:54
about 30 kilometers north 20
month, 20 to 25 miles north of.
2:25:00
Border because Hezbollah sits on
the border, ready to commit
2:25:04
against Israel what Hamas did to
Israel in the south, namely, to
2:25:08
cross the border, seize hundreds
of hostages and kill 1000s. So
2:25:13
the Israelis are unwilling to
live with that, so they have to
2:25:16
push this north. But at the
moment, that's a very dangerous
2:25:20
war for both the Lebanese and
the Israelis. So what you're
2:25:24
seeing is the Israelis do all
the preparatory work. The first
2:25:27
thing is they took out the
command and control, and that
2:25:29
was the famous beeper attack,
and then the walkie talkie
2:25:33
attack, and then essentially
killing off the leadership and
2:25:38
targeted strikes. Lately, what
you've seen is a lot of
2:25:41
preemptive strikes against
missiles, so that when the war
2:25:44
begins, Israel expected between
five and 10,000 missiles to be
2:25:48
hitting Israel per day. This
essentially preempts that, so it
2:25:53
tries to remove as much of that
from the battle as possible so
2:25:57
that the Israelis can focus on
the ground.
2:26:00
Adam Curry: I saw a video of a
huge explosion in Lebanon, like,
2:26:04
like, mini nuke level.
2:26:07
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was, I
think, a ammo dump or something.
2:26:11
I was pretty now, of course, we
still don't know what's what's
2:26:14
really going on here, and I you,
after you listen to these clips,
2:26:18
you have to take Israel's side
in this. And I think it, most of
2:26:21
it is brought out here in clip
to
2:26:23
Unknown: now, Israel has
repeatedly said that their goal
2:26:25
isn't to seek a ground war.
Rather, it is to push Hezbollah
2:26:29
north of the latani River, which
is what Hezbollah agreed to do
2:26:32
back in 2006 now talk to us
about the history here and how
2:26:36
that plays into what we're
seeing unfolding now, United
2:26:39
Nations in the last Israeli
invasion in 2006 what happens
2:26:43
is, in 1978 Israel was attacked
by the PLO, and a particularly
2:26:47
horrible after years of missiles
from the PLO, the Israelis and a
2:26:53
bus attack that killed 40 some,
Israelis invaded and took a
2:26:57
small strip of land. They
withdrew eventually, again,
2:27:02
another major attack and
violence. The Israelis reinvaded
2:27:05
in 82 this time, held on to a
piece of land until 19, until
2:27:11
roughly 2000 to prevent this
from happening again, the
2:27:16
Israelis withdrew, and Hezbollah
moved in immediately, and by
2:27:19
2006 they had attacked Israel,
seized some hostages, three
2:27:24
soldiers killed people and
constantly rocketing Northern
2:27:28
Israel. So Israel, in 2006 moved
in again, this time about 50
2:27:33
miles in. And the UN passed a
resolution, 1701 that demanded
2:27:39
all Israeli troops leave
Lebanon, which they did, and
2:27:42
they complied. The border beset,
which is what happened with the
2:27:46
UN a mission a few years later,
and Hezbollah withdraw. Stay
2:27:52
withdrawn. Namely, the Israelis
pushed them back. They can't
2:27:56
move forward below a certain
point, which Hezbollah instantly
2:28:00
violated. And then second,
itzballah was supposed to
2:28:03
disarm, because it's a militia.
It's not part of the Lebanese
2:28:06
Government, and they didn't no
flag on the play.
2:28:11
John C Dvorak: So 1701, is the
key here. Nobody discusses this
2:28:15
detail. The UN came in and told
Israel to do something, and told
2:28:19
Hezbollah to do something.
Israel complied. Hezbollah did
2:28:24
not well
2:28:27
Adam Curry: important there is,
and this is what I hear from
2:28:29
people in Lebanon, is like
they're sick of it too, like
2:28:33
this. These Hizballah guys are a
pain. The Lebanese don't want
2:28:38
this nonsense.
2:28:40
John C Dvorak: Of course, they
don't. Their country is already
2:28:42
teetering on the brook of a
Brook on the brink of on the
2:28:46
brink of bankruptcy. Let's go to
clip three.
2:28:51
Unknown: Hezbollah never lived
up to its side of seven
2:28:53
resolution 1701 and that's now
the Israeli demand that
2:28:58
resolution 1701 be actually
implemented. And if the UN and
2:29:02
the World doesn't force on
Hezbollah to live up to its
2:29:06
terms, the Israelis will go in
on the ground and force
2:29:10
Hezbollah to live up to its
terms.
2:29:13
And with these latest
developments, President Biden
2:29:15
has signaled, while an all out
war is possible in the Middle
2:29:19
East, the window for
negotiations is still there now.
2:29:21
Reports also cite an Israeli
official saying that Israeli
2:29:24
Prime Minister Netanyahu is open
to us efforts to mediate the
2:29:28
tensions with Lebanon. What
would that look like? What would
2:29:31
be in a deal that Israel would
accept? Yeah,
2:29:33
the Israelis basically need to
follow it to be deployed north,
2:29:38
not on the border, so that they
can't strike Israel any day of
2:29:42
the week to commit an October 7
like massacre, and that a good
2:29:47
number of the short range
missiles are distanced from the
2:29:50
Israeli border. The vast
majority of the missiles that
2:29:54
Hezbollah has are short range.
So if you move them back 40
2:29:57
miles or 20 miles even. You've
removed a lot of those missiles
2:30:02
from the from being able to hit
Israel you removed almost all of
2:30:05
them from hitting big Israeli
cities. So that's what the
2:30:08
Israelis are really after, and
they're using resolution 1701 UN
2:30:13
resolution 1701 basically as
their negotiating position that
2:30:17
if Hezbollah lives up to 1701
then that's the end of the
2:30:22
crisis with with Hezbollah.
2:30:25
Adam Curry: So is there anything
in this analysis that explains
2:30:27
why Hezbollah is doing this? Is
this?
2:30:30
John C Dvorak: Are they because
they're assholes? Are
2:30:33
Adam Curry: they doing the
bidding of Iran?
2:30:36
John C Dvorak: Well, they, they
do discuss a little bit of that.
2:30:39
I mean, that's basically what
you heard here, about 1701 is
2:30:43
the part I wanted to play. So
people have some idea that what
2:30:46
this is based on is some un
thing. There's big un, u n, u n,
2:30:50
so one side goes along with it.
They both agree, and then one
2:30:54
side does it, and the other side
doesn't. That's the problem that
2:30:57
we have up there. And so that's
the reason that this whole thing
2:31:02
is taking place. It's not
because of Netanyahu being a nut
2:31:06
case. Now, there is a little bit
of more discussion this guy.
2:31:10
Let's call it a bonus clip
number four, which kind of veers
2:31:15
off and talks about Iran a
little bit,
2:31:19
Unknown: and now, as the
conflicts in the Middle East
2:31:21
hang over the US elections. A
spokesman for former President
2:31:24
Trump said he was briefed about
the alleged Iranian plot to
2:31:27
assassinate him, adding that
quote, these continued and
2:31:30
coordinated attacks have
heightened in the past few
2:31:32
months. What do you make of
this, especially when it comes
2:31:35
to the topic of elections free
of foreign interference?
2:31:39
Yeah, well,
2:31:39
I mean an assassination attempt
by a foreign government is
2:31:42
obviously the highest form of
election interference. Iran is
2:31:46
really the story here. We can
talk about Hamas, we can talk
2:31:50
about Hezbollah, but these are
all battlegrounds pieces on the
2:31:55
chessboard that Iran is moving
around and it's very afraid of
2:32:00
American policy going in a
certain direction that could be
2:32:03
tougher against it. The Iranians
have killed people abroad who
2:32:07
will stand in their way
consistently since, literally
2:32:11
the day they took office, they
killed their opposition, and
2:32:14
Iranians abroad who opposed
them, anybody who violated Islam
2:32:18
and there were in their mind,
they passed the fatwa that said,
2:32:22
you need to kill them. And we
saw with Salman Rushdie, who was
2:32:25
one of the victims of those
fatwa 40 years later, they did
2:32:29
it so there's no expiration date
on their murderous directives.
2:32:36
And after Soleimani was killed,
they base, they outright,
2:32:40
openly, brazenly said they'll
kill him. They'll kill President
2:32:43
Trump for having done that, and
they've been trying. And they
2:32:47
annually put out new videos
fantasizing about how they would
2:32:51
kill him, quite graphic videos.
So there's no surprise here that
2:32:57
President Trump is in their
crosshairs, and they're trying
2:33:00
hard to assassinate him, as well
as other former officials, John
2:33:04
Bolton, Brian hook and others
who they see as having been anti
2:33:09
Iranian. Now,
2:33:11
Adam Curry: okay, couple of
things here. First of all,
2:33:13
Wednesday, I find it always
dangerous because they don't say
2:33:16
Lebanon, they say they don't say
Gaza or Palestinians, they say
2:33:22
Hamas. But when it comes to
Iran, it's just Iran, but it's
2:33:26
not it's the Iranian
Revolutionary Guard, or, you
2:33:30
know, the the mullahs, or
whatever it is. What do we call
2:33:33
it? What name do we put on those
guys? Joel, you
2:33:35
John C Dvorak: tell me,
2:33:36
Adam Curry: I don't know, but I
find it a little precarious,
2:33:40
because there's a lot of nice
people in
2:33:42
Unknown: Iran, yeah.
2:33:43
I mean, you know, and
2:33:44
John C Dvorak: they're all
young, very
2:33:46
Adam Curry: young, very pretty,
very demure. Well, I have a, I
2:33:54
have a clip here about Trump,
about this very topic. If I
2:33:58
Unknown: were president and a
former president and a leading
2:34:01
candidate. I'm the leading
candidate by far, to be the next
2:34:05
president, and that leading
candidate was under threat. But
2:34:13
if I were the president, I would
inform the threatening country,
2:34:17
in this case, Iran, that if you
do anything to harm this person.
2:34:21
We are going to blow your
largest cities and the country
2:34:25
itself to smithereens. We're
going to blow it to smithereens.
2:34:29
You can't do that. Can't do
that, and there would be no more
2:34:34
threats. There would be no more
threats. But right now, we don't
2:34:38
have that leadership, or the
necessary people, the necessary
2:34:42
leaders. We have two people, not
one. We don't even know who our
2:34:47
president is right now. Who is
our President right now? We
2:34:52
really don't know. But we have
two people, not one, that only
2:34:55
keep looking, and when you do
that, when you just look. The
2:35:00
trouble always ensues. So it's
big trouble for our country.
2:35:05
Meanwhile, we have the president
of Iran in our country this
2:35:09
week, we have large security
forces guarding him, and yet
2:35:12
they're threatening our former
president and the leading
2:35:15
candidate to become the next
president of the United States.
2:35:19
Certainly a strange set of
circumstances.
2:35:25
Adam Curry: Have some better
audio of him talking about Iran.
2:35:27
They're eating the dogs. There
you go. But we are not sitting
2:35:33
still as the United States,
because war is always a racket,
2:35:36
always good for money. Let's
send some troops.
2:35:38
Unknown: The US is sending
additional troops to the Middle
2:35:40
East in response to the
escalation of violence between
2:35:43
Israel and Hezbollah forces in
Lebanon, the Pentagon did not
2:35:47
provide specifics on the number
of troops or what their task
2:35:50
will be Once in position. It
comes after Israel launched a
2:35:53
new wave of air strikes
targeting Hezbollah weapon sites
2:35:57
in Lebanon. Lebanese officials
say at least 490 people were
2:36:01
killed in yesterday's strikes
and more than 1200 wounded.
2:36:06
Hezbollah launched attacks of
its own over the weekend, firing
2:36:09
at least 100 rockets into Israel
another 75 this morning. The
2:36:14
escalation and violence comes as
world leaders are in New York
2:36:17
this week for meeting of the UN
General Assembly, and
2:36:22
Adam Curry: if we can move off
of Iran into the new world
2:36:25
order, who is in New York?
Before
2:36:27
John C Dvorak: we do that, we
could play a couple of clips
2:36:29
from the UN meeting that was
just mentioned. That's what
2:36:32
Adam Curry: I was going to do.
Why don't you? You go ahead.
2:36:36
John C Dvorak: I have two. I
have the UN hate Israel speeches
2:36:40
from democracy now who would
only play such things here
2:36:43
Unknown: in New York, world
leaders gathered for the United
2:36:47
Nations General Assembly Tuesday
condemned Israel's Assaults on
2:36:51
Palestine and Lebanon. Turkish
President Richard Tayyip Erdogan
2:36:55
accused Israel of committing
genocide and Gaza and said the
2:36:59
failure of nations to stop the
violence show the United Nations
2:37:03
system and western values are
dying. Chilean President Gabriel
2:37:08
Boric also condemned Israel's
actions. Why? I
2:37:12
refuse to choose between the
hamesses terrorism or the
2:37:15
massacre and genocidal behavior
of Netanyahu. Israel. We do not
2:37:19
have to choose between
barbarities, I choose humanity.
2:37:23
We denounce the illegal
occupation of the Palestinian
2:37:25
territories and the de facto
denial of the existence of an
2:37:29
independent Palestinian state by
the occupying country. UN
2:37:33
Secretary General, Antonio
Guterres accused Israel of
2:37:36
violating the United Nations
Charter and said too many
2:37:40
governments are turning a blind
eye to international human
2:37:43
rights conventions and the
decisions of international
2:37:46
courts. Meanwhile, Joe Biden
delivered his last speech to the
2:37:51
United Nations as US President
calling for a diplomatic
2:37:55
solution to end Israel's war on
a Gaza, even as his
2:37:59
administration continues to
provide weapons and billions of
2:38:03
dollars in aid to Israel's
military.
2:38:07
John C Dvorak: No mention of
1701, by her. And I just wanted
2:38:10
this last clip. I'm just going
to get it out of the way for
2:38:12
you, because I this is a no
agenda exclusive,
2:38:15
Adam Curry: no an exclusive.
2:38:16
John C Dvorak: This is the UN
speech, the Zelensky a summary
2:38:20
of his, his lengthy speech at
the UN Zelensky
2:38:23
Unknown: added that more aid
from Western nations is needed.
2:38:27
Adam Curry: My money. My money.
The big kind of thing that
2:38:32
happened at the UN was not
discussed much in the M 5m also
2:38:37
known as legacy media, and that
is the, I'm taking a page from
2:38:43
the view here. That is the pact
for the future. The pact for the
2:38:49
future, which was, was it pact?
I think that means an agreement
2:38:54
everybody signed on to it pact,
the pact for the future, which,
2:38:58
of course, reasserts, reconfirms
all of the SDGs, the sustainable
2:39:04
development goals and then some.
2:39:06
Bag: The UN General Assembly
kicked off a marathon week of
2:39:08
diplomacy with a summit for the
future.
2:39:11
Unknown: I called for this
summit because our world is
2:39:15
ebbing off the rails, and we
need tough decisions to get back
2:39:20
on track, the
2:39:22
Bag: signature event adopted by
consensus, a wide ranging pact
2:39:26
for the future.
2:39:27
Adam Curry: By consensus means
there are about eight countries
2:39:29
that said, No, we're not signing
this nonsense,
2:39:31
Bag: a blueprint aimed at
ensuring that international
2:39:34
institutions can deliver in a
world that has changed
2:39:37
dramatically since they were
created in 1945 Russia, which
2:39:42
raised numerous objections to
elements of the pact as the
2:39:45
months long negotiations were
wrapping up last week, sought to
2:39:49
amend the document moments
before its adoption, but failed.
2:39:53
The pact has lofty goals for
eradicating poverty, ending
2:39:56
hunger, and building peaceful
and inclusive society. 90s, it
2:40:00
also seeks to bridge the digital
divide. Now, the hard work of
2:40:05
implementing it begins, but
2:40:07
Unknown: our people know
instinctively that this will
2:40:10
only be talk unless there's a
fundamental change in what we do
2:40:15
and how we do it, and who is
seen and heard in the corridors
2:40:18
of decision making,
2:40:20
Bag: the Secretary General met
one on one with several world
2:40:23
leaders Sunday, including Leslie
Voltaire, a member of Haiti's
2:40:27
transitional Presidential
Council. They discussed the need
2:40:30
to ensure an elected government
is in place by February 2026 as
2:40:34
agreed by Haitian stakeholders.
2:40:37
Adam Curry: I love that. Yeah,
we'll fix that in 2026 don't
2:40:40
worry about it. It's good
decision. Stake. It's good for,
2:40:43
yeah, oh yeah, the stakeholders
of Haiti. We know what that
2:40:46
means. Rape them. Let's get all
let's get everything out there
2:40:49
we can.
2:40:51
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that guy's
good from democracy now. Oh,
2:40:53
quick,
2:40:53
Adam Curry: I want to tell you
about the pact for the future.
2:40:57
John C Dvorak: Oh, okay, well,
I'm just gonna tell you the
2:40:58
Haitians are suing Trump. Yeah.
2:41:00
Adam Curry: Well, we'll get to
that. The so the pack, so the
2:41:04
come the countries that did not
join in the pact, although,
2:41:08
John C Dvorak: of course, it was
obviously the United States
2:41:11
wouldn't join such a stupid
thing. Yeah, we
2:41:13
Adam Curry: did. Russia, Iran,
Chad, also known as Chad, Chad,
2:41:19
Chad, Afghanistan, Haiti,
Somalia and Nicola Haiti. No
2:41:26
Haiti did not sign on, because
what this pact enables is a full
2:41:34
digitization to control the
masses. The pact includes the
2:41:40
idea of biometric digital ID for
every global citizen. Of course,
2:41:49
a lot of it is tied to banking
and what we would call social
2:41:54
credit scores.
2:41:57
John C Dvorak: And did China
sign on? Yes,
2:42:01
Adam Curry: China did. So
they're good. They're probably
2:42:03
providing the technology. Now,
as that lady just said, you
2:42:07
know, they was just words, not
deeds. So we got to do it. We
2:42:10
got to do it. And the and I did
not get this clip, but the
2:42:13
guerres, the UN Secretary
General said, you know, part of
2:42:17
this pact in the event of a
global shock, gives us some
2:42:22
extra powers. Of course, a
global shock would be determined
2:42:27
by him, sure. So it's, it's more
posturing, and people always get
2:42:33
worried, oh, United Nations. But
I think that just shut down that
2:42:37
thing. I mean, clearly if 1701,
doesn't mean anything to them,
2:42:40
yeah, they never meant, yeah,
exactly. They don't do anything.
2:42:43
So I do have following on on
your un, your un exclusive of
2:42:50
Zelensky. Zelensky was in the
United States. He today he is
2:42:55
presenting the victory plan to
President Biden again. In fact,
2:43:00
he's presenting it to everybody
2:43:02
Unknown: as his motorcade
approached the ammunition plant,
2:43:04
a small number of supporters
gathered to show their
2:43:07
appreciation for Volodymyr
zelenskyy Visit like three
2:43:10
Adam Curry: people and a dog,
Ukraine. What did he say? Yeah,
2:43:17
Ukraine,
2:43:18
Unknown: but the Ukrainian
president was there to give
2:43:20
thanks himself, as factory
workers ramp up production of
2:43:24
155 millimeter artillery shells,
rounds desperately needed by the
2:43:29
Ukrainian army to fight off
Russian advances. You
2:43:32
Adam Curry: see, I told you how
the Ukraine money goes to us.
2:43:35
It's so good. It's good for
business.
2:43:37
Unknown: At one point in the
war, Ukraine was firing between
2:43:40
six and 8000 of the shells per
day, which started to deplete
2:43:44
American stockpiles. The US now
aims to manufacture 100,000
2:43:49
rounds per month. The visit
kicked off a busy week for
2:43:52
Zelensky in the US as he tries
to shore up support for kyiv's
2:43:56
war effort. After speaking at
the UN General Assembly on
2:44:00
Tuesday and Wednesday, he'll
hold talks with Joe Biden and
2:44:03
Kamala Harris in Washington on
Thursday, and is expected to
2:44:06
meet with Donald Trump.
2:44:08
Adam Curry: No, that's very
interesting.
2:44:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
that's
2:44:11
Adam Curry: dubious. Of course,
it was just an outrage that the
2:44:15
governor of Pennsylvania is
there with Zelensky signing the
2:44:22
missiles, putting an autograph
on missiles that will go into
2:44:27
Russia. Yeah,
2:44:29
John C Dvorak: to kill people.
To
2:44:30
Adam Curry: kill people. It's
like, yeah, good
2:44:32
John C Dvorak: deal of Shapiro's
there on this. Johnny on the
2:44:34
spy. Have you seen the the meme
of it? No, they have Zelensky
2:44:40
standing there, and he's signing
what looks like giant butt
2:44:43
plugs.
2:44:46
Adam Curry: Okay, I missed that
one. That was good. That was
2:44:49
good. Just briefly. Back to the
hostages in Gaza. Gaza the Prime
2:44:57
Minister of the United Kingdom
and. Had a very strange gaffe.
2:45:02
Unknown: So I call again for
restraint and de escalation at
2:45:06
the border between Lebanon and
Israel. Again, again, all
2:45:10
parties to pull back from the
brink. I call again for an
2:45:16
immediate ceasefire in Gaza, the
return of the specialty
2:45:21
Adam Curry: the I mean, I gotta
ask. I mean,
2:45:25
John C Dvorak: as you got the
long version of that, yeah, I
2:45:27
had to watch
2:45:28
Adam Curry: three different
versions. I said, this has got
2:45:30
to be AI, but it doesn't appear
to be. He said, The Return of
2:45:34
the sausages. Yeah, what? What
does this guy have?
2:45:38
John C Dvorak: He was hungry.
His breakfast sausages on his
2:45:41
mind, those delicious British
bangers,
2:45:43
Adam Curry: bangers, the
bangers. What that is the just
2:45:47
about the oddest thing, let me
hear it again, the return of the
2:45:52
sausages. I want all sausages
returned living I
2:45:58
John C Dvorak: mean that I
couldn't find any evidence that
2:46:00
was fake. That was
2:46:01
Adam Curry: bizarre. That was
just truly bizarre, didn't I
2:46:05
don't, I don't know how that
happens to you.
2:46:08
Unknown: He said it is something
you do.
2:46:10
Adam Curry: Well, this, I mean,
2:46:12
John C Dvorak: I like doing
does? It was with flair. Return
2:46:15
Adam Curry: to return the
sausages. Bring back my sausage.
2:46:20
Yes, it was bizarre. Very
bizarre. These people have no
2:46:25
business running anything.
Here's
2:46:27
John C Dvorak: another story
that you didn't hear anywhere
2:46:29
else. This on Democracy Now you
hear about the shooting at the
2:46:32
Harris headquarters. I
2:46:34
Adam Curry: read an article
about it. Let me see shooting at
2:46:39
Harris shooting.
2:46:40
Unknown: Okay, the Chancellor of
New York City's public school
2:46:43
system is stepping down amidst a
growing federal bribery
2:46:46
investigation. David Banks
announcement comes.
2:46:49
Adam Curry: I'm sorry that's New
York corruption. Wrong clip,
2:46:53
wrong clip.
2:46:53
Unknown: The Arizona Democratic
Party says a campaign office for
2:46:56
vice president Kamala Harris and
Tempe was damaged by gunfire
2:47:01
overnight Tuesday. It's the
second time bullet holes have
2:47:04
appeared in the offices windows
in recent weeks. Harris is
2:47:08
planning to visit Arizona in the
coming days, where she's
2:47:11
reportedly planning to visit the
US Mexico border. That's
2:47:14
Adam Curry: not good. Oh, it's
2:47:16
John C Dvorak: just come on this
Arizona with a bunch of guys
2:47:18
with driving around with guns
and, you know, so like, three in
2:47:22
the morning, a bunch of drunk
kids, and they take a couple pot
2:47:24
shots at the headquarters. Okay,
well, I'd be rather guys in the
2:47:29
deep south to keep shooting the
stop signs with a shotgun.
2:47:34
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's a the
when we had the sheriff race
2:47:37
here in Gillespie County. The
sign for the outgo. Now,
2:47:42
outgoing sheriff was shot up by
a shotgun. We're getting a cool
2:47:46
new sheriff here. There's a new
sheriff in town. In Gillespie.
2:47:50
Did I tell you about this that
my my buddy, Mike, the the
2:47:52
former cop from uh, Kerrville,
with anger management issues,
2:47:55
he's going to be
2:47:57
John C Dvorak: the anger
management guy. Oh, yeah, issues
2:47:59
and he's gonna be the sheriff?
Yeah, no, he's
2:48:01
Adam Curry: he's gonna be like,
he's gonna be training the SWAT
2:48:04
team, I think. Oh, yeah, hey,
he's my friend. So is good now
2:48:10
he's good.
2:48:12
John C Dvorak: Then I do have
one Biden clip about the storm.
2:48:14
We didn't talk too much about
the hurricanes. We did a little
2:48:17
earlier, but we didn't play the
Biden clip.
2:48:20
Adam Curry: Um, okay, I'm
looking for it. Biden, well, I
2:48:25
only have one Biden clip. Biden
Vax message, I don't see any
2:48:29
other. Biden, yeah. Is that's
the one,
2:48:32
Unknown: yep, oh,
2:48:33
let me be clear. If you're in a
state where hurricanes often
2:48:37
strike, a vital part of
preparing for hurricane season
2:48:40
is to get vaccinated. Now,
2:48:43
Adam Curry: this is an old clip.
John, is it? Yes? Yes. Biden,
2:48:49
vaccinated storm, yeah, yeah,
for sure. That's a very old
2:48:55
clip. Well,
2:48:57
John C Dvorak: I got suckered
then, yeah, since there's a
2:48:59
storm going on on right now.
2:49:02
Adam Curry: Let me see. Let me
just, I'm that's why there's 99%
2:49:07
sure that's, that's an old clip.
Well, that's
2:49:10
John C Dvorak: a good message.
2:49:11
Adam Curry: Yes, that's what you
want to do when there's a storm.
2:49:14
Yeah, get vaccinated. Stacy
Plaskett, who is a Democrat
2:49:21
representative. She's the one
that years back said Donald
2:49:26
Trump needs to be shot. You've
seen her,
2:49:29
Unknown: yeah, she,
2:49:31
Adam Curry: she's she did it
again. She said the quiet part
2:49:34
out loud. It was quite telling.
In this case, it was about the
2:49:37
FBI.
2:49:38
Unknown: What is the point of
this subcommittee because it's
2:49:42
necessary for the public and the
media to hear to try and provide
2:49:47
cover for the eradication of the
Department of Justice and the
2:49:51
FBI. We are having these
hearings so that you become
2:49:55
immune, you become inured to the
notion of the. Removal of the
2:50:01
FBI and DOJ, so that those
agencies are no longer there to
2:50:06
serve as a check against white
nationalism, great replacement
2:50:11
theorists, Christian
nationalists, white fragility,
2:50:15
fascists and the twice impeached
convicted felon, former
2:50:20
president and would be dictator
Donald Trump.
2:50:24
Adam Curry: So the FBI is there
to get me on three of those six
2:50:27
counts,
2:50:31
John C Dvorak: I guess. So that
is, are you I'd keep I'd watch
2:50:33
my back. You know, might have
some Bull. I live in California.
2:50:36
I'm safe. Yeah? You
2:50:39
Adam Curry: Yeah, you are safe.
You are safe.
2:50:43
John C Dvorak: Then, then she's
nuts, that woman.
2:50:46
Unknown: How do people vote for
people like that? I
2:50:48
Douche: don't keep them in
office.
2:50:49
Adam Curry: They don't play
this. No one watches television.
2:50:52
I don't know. They don't listen
to no agenda. So this happened
2:50:58
in Sweden.
2:51:00
I think it was Sweden. The
suicide pod went into effect for
2:51:05
the first time. And turns out it
was Switzerland. Was it
2:51:09
Switzerland? Yeah, turns out it
wasn't legal. They thought that
2:51:12
this was a legal thing. And I
have two clips about this.
2:51:16
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry I said
somebody used it. Yes,
2:51:19
Unknown: a criminal
investigation is underway
2:51:21
tonight after the first known
death of an American woman in a
2:51:24
so called Suicide pod in
Switzerland. The woman is
2:51:28
described as a 64 year old from
the Midwest who had an
2:51:31
autoimmune condition. Police say
she died in a forest near the
2:51:34
German border with a capsule
called the sarcopod was placed
2:51:38
sarcopod first time it's ever
been used, and it allows a
2:51:41
person to release nitrogen gas
into the chamber at the touch of
2:51:45
a button that removes all the
oxygen, and it causes the person
2:51:49
to fall asleep and then
suffocate. Assisted dying is
2:51:52
legal in Switzerland, but only
without external assistance.
2:51:56
Multiple arrests have been made
in this case for incitement and
2:51:59
the aiding and abetting of
suicide. The inventor of the
2:52:03
capsule is Australian physician
Philip nitsky, a known advocate
2:52:07
of the right to die movement.
2:52:08
There are some people who don't
approve of the idea of assisted
2:52:11
suicide at all. They would never
approve. They're not my beliefs,
2:52:14
and they're not the beliefs of
many people who decide they want
2:52:16
to control their debts. David,
2:52:19
the capsule has now been seized
by police. Anyone found guilty
2:52:23
of these charges could face up
to five years in prison.
2:52:26
Adam Curry: No, I that's it's
kind of interesting. First of
2:52:29
all, it's a 3d printed deal.
Looks a bit like, you know that
2:52:36
the thing that you put your skis
in on top of your roof,
2:52:39
John C Dvorak: it kind of also
looks like some sort of a pod
2:52:41
you find in a science fiction
movie. Yeah. And
2:52:43
Adam Curry: so I had a whole
other slew of clips, so I'll
2:52:46
just play this first one. It's
from palke palkis shawarma over
2:52:50
there. She now she's no longer
with a W, I O N, she's with
2:52:53
first post. I think this is the
clip that contains the thing
2:52:56
that I thought, wow,
2:52:56
Unknown: technology can both
amaze and horrify us. Our next
2:53:00
story tonight is more about the
latter the horrific part,
2:53:03
courtesy a new product on the
market, a suicide pod. Pod. It
2:53:08
is exactly what it sounds like,
a pod meant to assist suicides.
2:53:14
It is a futuristic looking
contraption. Once a person
2:53:17
climbs into it, nitrogen gas
will be released, oxygen will be
2:53:21
eliminated, and within minutes,
the person will die, all at the
2:53:25
cost of just $20.20
2:53:28
bucks,
2:53:30
Adam Curry: 20 bucks. By the
way, I think Apple should make
2:53:33
these for the California market.
You know, it looks like an Apple
2:53:38
product. It
2:53:39
John C Dvorak: does. It has a
nice look.
2:53:41
Adam Curry: And they called, you
know, they took the podcasting
2:53:44
thing. So be sarcopod now from
Apple, you can pre order your
2:53:49
sarcopod. I think it would go
over well in California. Maybe
2:53:54
you can become a distributor.
Ah,
2:53:57
Unknown: not interested. Oh,
please.
2:54:01
Adam Curry: Um, see, did we miss
anything?
2:54:03
John C Dvorak: But while you're
on the topic of these suicide
2:54:05
things, there is, there was a
there's a lot of, a lot of buzz
2:54:10
on Democracy Now, and all the
and even NTD about, I didn't
2:54:13
make a clip, but all these,
these, uh, executions of various
2:54:17
people around the country, all
of a sudden, executions, yeah,
2:54:21
they're executing people that
have been on death row since the
2:54:24
90s. Oh, wow. They need they
discussed the fact that one of
2:54:28
the reasons for the delay on all
these executions is the although
2:54:32
one state does use nitrogen, the
rest of the states use lethal
2:54:36
injection, and they couldn't get
the chemicals. Chemical
2:54:39
companies wouldn't get the
sarcopod. How about fentanyl?
2:54:46
Adam Curry: Go out on a with a
bang, just
2:54:48
John C Dvorak: go out to the San
Francisco and walk down the
2:54:51
street and pick up some fentanyl
and then give that to the guy. I
2:54:55
mean, it's like, what? What's
the lethal injection going to
2:54:57
do? That fentanyl won't do well,
you
2:54:59
Adam Curry: know, I. See some of
this conversation and and I saw
2:55:03
people talking about the
sarcopod in this regard, like,
2:55:05
why not just use that? Why do
you know? Well, I
2:55:08
John C Dvorak: suggested that in
the newsletter a couple Oh,
2:55:10
that's where I saw it. Yeah,
that's where
2:55:12
Adam Curry: you got it, yeah. So
why not? Why? Why are we still
2:55:16
using these antiquated ways of
killing people, which, of
2:55:20
course, if you're going to kill
babies, I think you should also
2:55:22
be able to kill people in
prison. You just need to put it
2:55:25
on television.
2:55:27
John C Dvorak: That's always
been my thing. Well, the
2:55:28
sarcopods, not very dramatic. I
think the old Sparky, some of
2:55:33
these electric chairs that on
television would be Sparky,
2:55:36
something you want to see.
2:55:38
Adam Curry: Just give us the
rights. That's all we care
2:55:40
about. Final thing I have is
Cheryl Atkinson sat down with
2:55:46
Trump for a long interview. You
might have seen some clips
2:55:51
around I have not Well, the one
I polled is the one thing that
2:55:55
isn't discussed very much, which
is, I think still, should still
2:56:00
be an issue with voters, and
that is about the covid vaccines
2:56:04
and and Trump's view of them.
And Cheryl Atkinson, she went
2:56:09
there
2:56:09
Unknown: on covid. You
frequently say at your rallies
2:56:12
and so on, that you don't feel
like you get enough credit on
2:56:14
covid. But by nearly every
assessment, the CDC failed
2:56:19
miserably at job one. And yes,
the covid vaccines were
2:56:22
developed in record time, but as
we now know, they don't prevent
2:56:25
infection, illness or
transmission, and they have very
2:56:28
potentially serious side
effects.
2:56:31
Do you think that maybe they
were approved too fast? And in
2:56:34
hindsight, based on what we know
now,
2:56:36
what would you have done
differently? Well, I
2:56:38
think they're doing studies on
the vaccines, and we're going to
2:56:40
find out, and it will come out
one way or the other. But I
2:56:44
really had a mandate to get
vaccines done, and I got them
2:56:47
done very quickly. In record
time, the Democrats love it. You
2:56:52
know, the Democrats love it and
the Republicans don't. It's very
2:56:55
interesting the vaccines, they
love it. I have a friend of mine
2:56:59
who said to me, why don't you
talk about the vaccine? What you
2:57:03
did with the VA he's a Democrat,
but I'm sure he voted for me. He
2:57:07
said what you did was the most
incredible thing that any
2:57:10
President has ever done. You've
saved hundreds of millions of
2:57:14
lives all over the world. And
this was just recently, very
2:57:18
smart guy. He said, I don't
understand why you don't talk
2:57:22
about it, and I don't talk about
it. But if you go to Pfizer, if
2:57:27
you go to some of these
companies, they have they have
2:57:31
charts, and they have all sorts
of statistics. And I said, Why
2:57:34
don't you release those
statistics let people know? But
2:57:38
I don't talk about it. I can say
this. The Democrats would love
2:57:41
to claim it. The Republicans
don't want to claim it, but it
2:57:45
will be determined, I'd say over
the next 12 months. I say this
2:57:48
in terms of overall, I think I
did an amazing job with covid. I
2:57:53
never got the credit for it.
Remember that more people died
2:57:57
under Biden Harris than died
under Trump, and they had a much
2:58:02
easier time, because when it
came in here, nobody knew what
2:58:05
it was. It came from the Wuhan
Labs, which I always said, but
2:58:08
nobody really knew what it was,
where it came from, nothing.
2:58:12
They knew nothing.
2:58:13
Adam Curry: This is where Trump
really blows it every single
2:58:16
time with this old, tired story
about his Democrat friend. You
2:58:22
know, he has, he has the right
parts of the story that he
2:58:26
should be telling, which is, the
Democrats love it. Republicans
2:58:29
hate it. That's funny. That's
good. And then he says, hey, you
2:58:34
know, we'll find out. We're
gonna Why did Pfizer, why don't
2:58:36
you release the documents? And
then he always has to go into
2:58:39
but I did a great job. It uses
the mandate word. I had a
2:58:43
mandate. All
2:58:44
Unknown: wrong, all wrong. Yeah,
it's,
2:58:47
Adam Curry: it's unbelievable.
Yeah,
2:58:50
John C Dvorak: that's his weak.
That's his Achilles heel. He
2:58:52
can't admit to making a mistake.
2:58:55
Adam Curry: No, it's so
unfortunate. It's, and it's,
2:58:58
it's, really, it's, it's, I find
that personally, I was a
2:59:02
problem, man, you got to be able
to vote Harris all the way. No,
2:59:10
I'm the guy with, this is the
guy with the boot on his head,
2:59:12
still running. That's my guy
with, with the free pony. That's
2:59:16
my guy. So that's my guy. One of
the trolls had a very good
2:59:21
suggestion. He said we could
save Tupperware if they got into
2:59:25
the sarcopod business.
2:59:28
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and then
you just pop the thing that
2:59:30
pushes down, get a little vacuum
seal, and, boom,
2:59:32
Adam Curry: you're dead. Good to
go. I'm sorry,
2:59:36
John C Dvorak: yeah, was gonna
play a clip to play that out.
2:59:40
Adam Curry: You ruined my vibe,
2:59:42
John C Dvorak: right? No, you,
you hit the number. You you
2:59:44
actually did fine, but you did.
You missed my cue well, and that
2:59:47
was latency. That's latency.
Yeah,
2:59:49
Adam Curry: I'm back. I'm back
for your queue. We'll pretend it
2:59:51
never happened. I'll edit it all
out, all of it
2:59:54
John C Dvorak: you always do,
yes, in fact, people don't have,
2:59:57
don't have any idea how much
stuff you edit. Oh, it's. So
3:00:00
Adam Curry: much we spend so
much time micromanaging the
3:00:03
edits. I
3:00:04
John C Dvorak: just wanted to
play the transgender lesbian
3:00:06
dude threatening people as a way
to go into the donation
3:00:12
segments, a talk clip.
3:00:13
Unknown: I am a 40 year old
transgender lesbian. I dare you
3:00:16
to try and stop me from going
into a women's bathroom. This is
3:00:20
a call to action. You need to
arm up, plain and simple. The
3:00:24
time to act is now. I do not
fear Christians. I do not fear
3:00:27
conservatives. I do not fear
evangelicals, and I do not fear
3:00:30
Republicans. You're gonna know
what fear actually feels like.
3:00:34
There are lots of people like me
who are not afraid to die.
3:00:37
You've been warned.
3:00:38
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness,
this is no way to go out. This
3:00:42
is a threatening transgender
dude. This is no good
3:00:46
transgender lesbian, no less.
3:00:48
John C Dvorak: What is that?
Transgender lesbian? Yeah,
3:00:50
Adam Curry: you know, he's not
afraid. I
3:00:51
John C Dvorak: made a mistake.
Yes,
3:00:53
Unknown: I'm gonna show
3:00:54
my soul by donating to no
agenda. Imagine all the people
3:00:57
who could do that. Oh yeah,
that'd
3:00:58
be fabulous. Bummer. Oh, no.
Agenda. Well,
3:01:06
on
3:01:06
Adam Curry: that happy note,
who's he's not afraid to die.
3:01:09
But all, it's all the timing.
Everybody here are our producers
3:01:13
who helped us out for this
episode, $50 and above. It's not
3:01:17
a very long list. John hit it,
no,
3:01:19
John C Dvorak: it's actually a
pretty small list, uh, luckily,
3:01:22
the Commodores are saving the
day.
3:01:23
Adam Curry: The Commodores,
Lionel Richie, Commodores,
3:01:27
John C Dvorak: Beth Elliott
starts us off, and she's in Cory
3:01:30
coryton, Tennessee, at 133 69
Douglas Murray comes in from
3:01:36
Missoula, Montana. 10101, Kevin
McLaughlin, already here he is,
3:01:42
right at the beginning, 808,
he's the Archduke of Luna, lover
3:01:46
of American boobs. He must be
Duke by now, or Grand Duke. I
3:01:50
mean, Jason Marr in Vancouver,
Washington, 808, another boob
3:01:58
donation. Joe John horibore,
it's actually a Dutch name, and
3:02:03
you can probably pronounce it
better than me.
3:02:05
Adam Curry: Hoiber, hey farmer,
hoy, boo.
3:02:08
John C Dvorak: He's a hay
farmer. He's
3:02:09
Adam Curry: a hay farmer.
Hoiber, uh,
3:02:12
John C Dvorak: Bristol,
Tennessee, 7777, sir Rick in
3:02:15
Arlington, Washington, 6996,
Matthew elwart in Weatherford,
3:02:19
Texas, 606. Baroness, night in
Edmonds, Washington. 60 uh,
3:02:26
surprise. Night of astonishment
in UConn, Oklahoma. 5444 Mark
3:02:30
Hardwick in Alito, Texas. 5333
taken Andreessen in it's got to
3:02:39
be Hawking hotken Andreessen. In
Portland.
3:02:44
Adam Curry: He's from Norway.
He's from Norway, yelska die.
3:02:51
John C Dvorak: Matthew dropco In
Elia, Ohio, 5252 and he's got a
3:02:56
birthday 20 he's 52 Today.
Today. 10 year anniversary of
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being sober, sober versus 10
year
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Adam Curry: chip
congratulations. Brother
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John C Dvorak: Baron Sir Henry
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Covington, Washington. Bob
Newell in Penfield,
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Pennsylvania. And last on our
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want lemons make lemonade.
Mitchell, Indiana. All $50
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donors want to thank these
people for making the show 1698
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we're two shows away from show
1700 Oh, a 1698 thanks for
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Adam Curry: again, we appreciate
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Unknown: you've got
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Adam Curry: no agenda
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And remember, we do have John's
Tip of the Day. Our end of show
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mixes on the way, and Sir Bing
of the BMWs and Bulldogs has
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Happy Birthday to his smokin,
hot wife, Jennifer Roediger, she
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turned 42 on the 24th Matthew
dropco turns 52 today, and it's
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got his 10 year chip
congratulations. Matt Bernier
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wishes his smoking hot wife,
Audrey, a happy one for
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tomorrow. Philip veinstra, his
daughter Ella, turns 19 on the
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26th that is today. And Walker
Campbell wishes his brother a
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happy birthday as do we happy
birthday from everybody here,
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the best podcast in the
universe.
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Ah, we love it when people move
up the peerage ladder. Sir
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pursuit of peace and tranquility
upped his and boy did he really
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did up his peerage. He is now a
sir, pursuit of priest of peace
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and tranquility, Earl of the
land of the red clay and the
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cherry trees and Viscount silver
dude of the silver dolphins
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becomes Earl silver dude of the
silver dolphins. And we thank
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you both for your extra support
of the no agenda show, the best
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podcast in the universe. And
today we do have quite a number
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of Commodores. Whoops, I didn't
mean to do that. I'm sorry. Here
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we go. Commodores. Get ready.
Come on over here. You are about
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to receive your honorary
certificates. Commodores are
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Doug Ellis, Commodore, sir,
pursuit of peace and
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tranquility. Commodore sir.
Lehron, Commodore, John G,
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Commodore, sir silver dude of
the silver dolphins, Commodore
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of Coleman County, Knight of the
Lake Highlands and Duke of the
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Republic of Texas. Commodore Sir
David French, Commodore, Baron
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Markey. Mark Commodore, Eric R,
Commodore, Ron Mills, Commodore,
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Steve McConnell and Commodore,
John Wynn, all of you will be
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receiving your official
certificates in the mail very
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soon. Commodores, welcome to
your Commodore, ship of the no
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agenda show.
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I know I'm missing something. I
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John C Dvorak: just you're
getting there, getting closer,
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getting better. I
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Adam Curry: need a little more
music bed, because these things
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are longer. I work on it. I'm
working on it. Yes,
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John C Dvorak: how about a
bosons whistle?
3:07:29
Adam Curry: Oh, someone just
sent me a bosons whistle, too. I
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was thinking cannons, actually.
So bosons, whistle and cannons.
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Bosons, whistle and cannons.
Okay, a bosons, whistling
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cannons. I'll work on it. In the
meantime, there is a meetup
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taking place today at North
Georgia. It's a North Georgia
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monthly. Six o'clock at Cherry
steep street brewing in
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Alpharetta, Georgia tomorrow.
Oh, a Friday meetup. Cool the
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Columbia River Basin. Meet up
seven o'clock at Cider House in
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Richland, Washington on
Saturday. Resist the douchebags
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that meet up is at 3:33pm in
Arlington, Virginia, at carpool.
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Okay, is that a carpool? Just
carpooling, or is that place
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called carpool? I don't know.
Also on Saturday, two nights in
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a bottle, four o'clock Nauticus
in Edinburgh, UK. Oh, Edinburgh
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UK, all right. I look forward to
a meet up report. Also on
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Saturday in the Netherlands, the
Tilburg meetup 730 at beer cafe.
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Kadinski, oh, please, Baron Rob,
make sure you send a report. And
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I love hearing the meetup
reports. I don't have any today.
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And on Sunday, our next show day
at McNally's South Don't be a
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douchebag that meet up at 530 in
Tulsa, Oklahoma. Many more
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meetups on the list for you to
attend. As I always tell
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everybody, it's really is a big
part of the no agenda show is
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getting to know no agenda
nation. There will be people
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from different ages, creeds,
backgrounds, religions, races,
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and you will all they're
racists, and you will all have a
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good time. There's never been a
fight at a no agenda meetup. It
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always turns out to be a good
time. It's always a party. And
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if you'd like to learn more and
find one near you, go to no
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agenda meetups.com. If you can't
find one, start one yourself.
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Sometimes
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Unknown: you wanna go hang out
with all the nights and days.
3:09:21
Everybody
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feels the same. It's like a
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Adam Curry: party. Ah, big, big
party. And this party's not over
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yet. We still have John's Tip of
the Day, which you can find at
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Tip of the day.net, or no,
agendafund.com, the lists are
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all there and complete, and it
will be a great Best of Show one
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day we just have all of John's
tips of the day back to back.
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It's going to be dynamite. But
3:09:49
Unknown: first challenge,
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Adam Curry: but first we have
our ISOs. Would you like to
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select now before the end of the
show, I have two, you have
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three. Would you like me to go
first? Yes, please. No,
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Unknown: just for. Fucked, but,
like, whatever. Okay, and I
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have,
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I feel violated right now,
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little blurry, little blurry.
Yeah, what
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John C Dvorak: do you got? Okay,
I have three uh, including uh,
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let's just do them in order to
start with Harris.
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Unknown: I grew up a middle
class kit, muddy,
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very muddy, none.
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None of us like them.
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Adam Curry: I hate the cutoff,
but okay, yeah, yeah,
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John C Dvorak: it was, I had to,
yeah, okay, it's my fault. RR,
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Adam Curry: not a way to run a
railroad. God, I don't like
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anything today. Yeah,
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Unknown: um, none of us like
them. That's,
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Adam Curry: I think that's kind
of the best one. None of us like
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them. None of us like any of the
of the ISO. So there it is. I'm
3:10:53
John C Dvorak: self selecting.
There you go. And
3:10:54
Adam Curry: now it's time, the
moment. You've all been waiting
3:10:56
for John's Tip of the Day. Just
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Unknown: advice for you and me,
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John C Dvorak: just JC and
sometimes promote some, promote
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some software that I've liked,
I've used over the years, I
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think is works. It's small, it's
effective, and it's it's for old
3:11:18
media, and it's called Image
burn, and it's for making DVDs
3:11:23
and CDs and whatever disk you
3:11:25
Adam Curry: still uses DVDs.
Yes, I knew this would be what
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you'd say. Well, there it is.
Who still uses DVDs? Well,
3:11:33
John C Dvorak: they're still
selling them by the million, so
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somebody must be using them just
but if you use when you want to
3:11:39
burn one, you want to do
something with it. What are you
3:11:41
going to use? You don't have,
you probably don't have any CD
3:11:44
burning software on your machine
at all. I
3:11:46
Adam Curry: do. I use a truck
driver. What's it called?
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John C Dvorak: I am g, b u r
n.com, I am g, b r n.com, is
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one. It's simple. What does the
trick? It does ISO. CDs does
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everything. Now, what comes up
in the conversation is that,
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well, I got a little
3:12:03
Adam Curry: speed, break speed,
break speed, break speed, break
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speed, break
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John C Dvorak: you can go to,
that's my sound. The go. You can
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go to Amazon and buy at burner,
a cheap burner, the 29 bucks.
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They're USB drives, and they
just burn CDs, DVDs or blu rays
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even. So you can always put them
on you can archive some stuff.
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That's my tip of the day for
people, especially for the
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haters.
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Adam Curry: All right, haters,
there's your
3:12:37
Unknown: tip of the day. All
right, everybody. Thank you.
3:12:40
Coming out tonight. We got one
more for you. It's called the
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tip by Adam curry and John Cena
borax.
3:12:49
Adam Curry: Oh boy. Your tip of
the day as good as any tip of
3:12:52
the day. Only. This one's for
boomers who still use DVDs and
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blu ray.
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John C Dvorak: Hey, guess what?
What? I'm a boomer.
3:13:03
Adam Curry: End of show mix is
coming up by Eric Coburn. We've
3:13:06
got David kecta Before he goes
on a little hiatus. He's got his
3:13:10
John C Dvorak: daughter in town,
by the way, this end of show mix
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is one of the best. Oh, well,
good. Well, Secret
3:13:15
Adam Curry: Agent Paul is a part
of that. And fresh new mix from
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Neil Jones, our clip custodian.
It's all coming up in just
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seconds from now. And if you
stay with us here@trollroom.io
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title that one that's Larry and
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Darren. And it's a good show. It
is a good show. They'll tell you
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all about death and destruction
in Chicago, coming to you from
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the heart of the Texas Hill
Country, right here in
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picturesque Germantown,
Fredericksburg, in the morning,
3:13:49
everybody. I'm Adam curry, and
3:13:52
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where it's
3:13:54
supposed to be hot tomorrow,
today, it's cold. I'm John C
3:13:57
Dvorak. We
3:13:58
Adam Curry: got 80 degrees here
in Fredericksburg, and we'll be
3:14:01
back on Sunday. Remember us at
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then, adios mo FOS, a hooey,
hooey and such
3:14:22
Unknown: a the crook.
3:14:43
But if I were the president, I
would inform the threatening
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country, in this case, Iran,
that if you do anything to harm
3:14:50
this person, we are going to
blow your largest cities and the
3:14:55
country itself to smithereens.
We're going to blow into
3:14:58
smithereens you can't do.
3:15:05
President Vladimir Putin has
warned the West that Russia
3:15:08
could use nuclear weapons if it
was struck with conventional
3:15:11
missiles. Russian leader
presented changes to Russia's
3:15:14
nuclear doctrine at a meeting,
at a meeting of the country's
3:15:18
security council, Putin said a
nuclear power supporting an
3:15:21
attack on Russia would now be
considered a joint aggressor.
3:15:25
The change in doctrine comes
after Putin's warnings to the US
3:15:29
and other NATO allies that
allowing Ukraine to use Western
3:15:31
long range weapons to hit
Russian territory would mean
3:15:34
that Russia and NATO are at war.
Good news is good.
3:15:40
War has failed.
3:15:44
He set out to destroy Ukraine,
but Ukraine is still free. Set
3:15:50
out to weaken NATO, but NATO is
bigger, stronger, more united
3:15:53
than ever before. They
3:15:56
have built blue a new donor
where there's fake news. Why
3:16:00
don't you get your Gitmo fix?
Putin on the Reds dressed up
3:16:06
like a million dollar Trooper,
trying not to look like Anderson
3:16:13
Cooper Come let's mix where John
Podesta walks with kids, though
3:16:18
I mean pizzas in his mitts.
Putin on the Ritz.
3:16:27
Folks, we've got to move past
this toxic politics. All
3:16:31
indications are this bill won't
even move forward to the Senate
3:16:34
floor. Why? A simple reason,
Donald Trump. Donald Trump, one,
3:16:41
one
3:16:43
Donald Trump, because
3:16:46
Donald Trump thinks it's bad for
him
3:16:48
politically. Warren,
3:16:52
Donald Trump, he'd rather
weaponize this issue than
3:16:54
actually solve Trump and the
Maga Republicans said no Warren,
3:16:59
because they're afraid of Donald
Trump, Donald Trump, Donald
3:17:04
Trump, afraid of Donald Trump.
Folks, we've got to move past
3:17:10
this toxic politics. The
republics. Have to decide. Who
3:17:13
do they serve, Donald Trump and
the American people. One on
3:17:21
Donald Trump. Every day between
now and November, the American
3:17:25
people are going to know that
the only reason the border is
3:17:28
not secure. Why Donald Trump?
Why Donald Trump? Why
3:18:01
boy, Donald Trump, borac.org/n,
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a, none of us like them. I.