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Adam Curry: Return to return of
the sausages, Adam curry. John C
Dvorak, it's Thursday, September
Unknown: 26 2024
Adam Curry: this is your award
winning Cuba nation. Media
assassination Episode 1698,
Unknown: this is no agenda
Adam Curry: going into founders
mode and broadcasting live from
the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region,
number six in the morning.
Everybody. I'm Adam curry from
John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley, where we all say hello
to Eric Adams, the mayor of New
York City. I'm John C Dvorak,
buzzkill
Adam Curry: man. Friends of mine
in New York are like our God is
good. They are really loving the
Eric Adams saga.
John C Dvorak: Unbelievable,
yes, but what is it?
Adam Curry: Oh, well, it's
completely not known. That's the
beauty of it. It's like, no,
what? No, H, no, of course not.
We don't it's like, all that's
ever mentioned is, well, yeah,
some, some donation money from
Turkey. Turkey actually, on one
of the clips, I didn't clip it,
but they flashed up countries
that had somehow participated in
illegal campaign donations, and
they had five flags, China,
Turkey, Israel. How was this?
There's two more, but, but that
doesn't seem to be what this is
about at all. I mean, there's so
much going on in in New York.
Hold on a second. Let me I have,
I have a couple of short clips
about it breaking we
Unknown: begin with breaking
news this evening and the
political earthquake that is
roughly New York City. Sources
telling CNN that Mayor Eric and
at least one federal, federal
criminal charge the indictment
is now under seal, so the nature
of the charges is unclear as we
are sitting here tonight, but we
do know that Mayor Adams has
been the center of a corruption
investigation for months. The
feds have been looking into
possible campaign fundraising
violations and foreign
influence. Adams, the former cop
turned Democratic mayor, has
previously denied any wrongdoing
and remains defiant. Tonight,
I will fight these injustices
with every ounce of my strength
and my spirit. If I'm charged, I
know I am innocent.
Adam Curry: I love this
statement. If I'm charged, I
know I'm innocent. I
John C Dvorak: don't know what
it's about, but I'm innocent,
Unknown: requesting immediate
trials so the New Yorkers can
hear the truth. The
mayor's administration has been
played with resignations as of
late, which has led to a steady
call for him to step down, even
before this has happened, calls
will only grow louder after
tonight, of course, with Adams
now becoming the first sitting
New York City Mayor to face
criminal federal charges, not
Adam Curry: just federal, but
federal. Federal charges this,
there's something much bigger
going on. I mean, it just seems
so obvious. And it was only a
few days ago when they went to
arrest a former prosecutor and
judge in Orange County New York.
They showed up, the the troopers
showed up, and the guy kills
himself. I mean, the only time
people do that when the Feds
show up is if you're involved in
some kind of kiddie porn. That's
always, always the case, and it
kind of fits with another numb
nut, which kudos to Crowder. Oh,
there's a title for you. Kudos
to Crowder, kudos
John C Dvorak: to title. Kudos
to
Unknown: Crowder. Nobody can
forget when covid left 1000s of
New Yorkers dead and also forced
much of the city to shut down
and prompted mask mandates,
social distancing and
vaccination mandates. Those
policies were written in part by
senior health advisor, Dr Jay
Varma, even the most rare events
that's him at City Hall three
years ago, the same place where
dozens of teachers,
firefighters, EMTs and other
city workers who lost their jobs
for not getting vaccinated or
for other covid protocol
violations, gathered Monday at
midday. I
could care less what he does,
Douche: but he affected my
freedom, my ability to make a
living. Dr
Unknown: Jay Varma said he had
to be involved in drug fueled
sex parties, which I don't care
about, but he needed that to be
his authentic self. What about
my authentic self?
Undercover video of Varma,
released last week by the
conservative website, louder
with Crowder, in which Varma
said that while the rest of the
city was ordered to socially
distance, mask up and get
vaccinated, he was a group sex
parties and other gatherings
bring
Dr Varma in yes for an oversight
hearing to
hold. Hold him accountable.
Varma
did not respond to our request
for comment, but did say in a
public statement after the video
was released, unfortunately, I
was targeted by an operative for
an extremist right wing
organization determined to
malign public health officials.
I participated in two private
gatherings I take responsibility
for not using the best judgment
at the time. I can't
Adam Curry: help but think this
is all related to Diddy. I just
can't help it. I mean, I was
like, this is cleanup,
John C Dvorak: because you have
this weird going on. This guy,
there it is. We're
Adam Curry: 1111 Thank you.
Finally, yeah, we're even Steven
11 right at the top of the show,
yes, W word. There's
John C Dvorak: some degree about
this and the this guy, who's the
obvious creep, the
Adam Curry: Varma, yeah,
Unknown: Varma. Var Varma,
Varma, Varma. Oh, racist.
John C Dvorak: What I think is
interesting is that the people
who report this, they all say,
well, it's not that it's a bad
thing to have a sex it's not
that that's a bad thing, but and
then they go on and on, but in a
base, no, in a basement thing,
but in a basement for a health
department official will be
screwing aimlessly, you know, in
a sex orgy. This doesn't sound
like a health department guy. If
you know these guys, they're
freaked out about everything you
probably
Adam Curry: got m pox. Now this,
this feels like cleanup, and
everybody in New York knows that
all Eric Adams does is swagger,
swagger in the club. Where's
John C Dvorak: our guy? Which
guy Barb? Eric Adams
impersonator? Oh,
Adam Curry: wow, that's a good
point. Bart guy should be all
over this. Maybe he quit.
John C Dvorak: I think he's the
stop listening to the show.
Maybe
Adam Curry: it was actually Eric
Adams. He can't do that anymore
because he's going Mark Anthony.
He's going to the slammer. This
is no and the fact that then no
one's focusing on the actual
charges, which I guess, are
being revealed.
John C Dvorak: How can you focus
on them when they don't give
them to you exactly so,
Adam Curry: but it seems
backwards, and all they're doing
is just getting everybody this
sweeping everybody, including
his lawyer. This is a non info
clip, but it does talk about
everybody who's who somehow
wrapped up in scandal
surrounding the New York Mayor.
Here are
Unknown: just some of the faces
of the people have had their
home searched or their phone
seized over the last year as
part of multiple federal
investigations. They're all
closely connected to Mayor Eric
Adams, from his police
commissioner Edward Caban, who
resigned, to the man he
appointed as head of schools,
David Banks, who announced his
retirement to Banks's domestic
partner the mayor's first deputy
mayor, Sheena Wright,
Adam Curry: by the way, that
guy's like 80. She's 25 that's,
I mean, I don't want to be one
to call someone out on huge age
differences, but kind of weird.
Just do, I don't know. I'm out
of control. Todd 12 for me, 11
for you. I'm sad. I finally even
the score. Don't worry, you'll
screw up later. And
Unknown: Mayor Adams former had
a fundraising Brianna sucks.
They're all part of at least
three separate but related
federal inquiries,
Adam Curry: you say, but
Unknown: related, and Mayor
Adams, former head of
fundraising, Brianna sucks.
Adam Curry: First of all,
Brianna sucks.
John C Dvorak: What is this? A
clown show? What are they doing
here?
Unknown: Right? And Mayor Adams,
former head of fundraising,
Brianna Suggs, they're all part
of at least three separate but
related, federal inquiries. But
related.
Adam Curry: I mean, it's
Unknown: the first started back
in November with Suggs, when the
Fed search the mayor's
Adam Curry: I think it's S, U,
double, G, s, yes, but sounds
funny.
Unknown: We're chief of
fundraising home the FBI, and US
Attorney aren't releasing any
information about the
investigations, but sources say
look into whether improper
campaign donations were made to
the mayor's 2021, campaign. So
Adam Curry: really, that's what
this is about.
John C Dvorak: I mean, they're
stealing money. I think it's not
about child sex New York,
Adam Curry: of course, they're
stealing money. They're they're
pressure. Well,
John C Dvorak: let's, let's back
up a little bit when, when the
mayor may decided to go after
the Biden administration for
sending all these migrants,
that's when this all began,
Adam Curry: when this started.
That's when this and they said,
Oh yeah, hold my beer. Hold my
beer. Watch what we do now.
We're gonna it's the season of
room
John C Dvorak: board. Let me
show you something the season. A
little trick. There's a quarter
behind your ear. Yeah, watch
this. And
Unknown: whether he received
illegal donations from citizens
or government officials in other
countries, the mayor. Has
maintained his innocence.
Adam Curry: Well, that's, that's
kind of interesting, because we
know that that was in 20 was it
2012 I think that was Obama's
trick. Is credit cards from
foreign countries, yeah,
John C Dvorak: what Harris is
using? That's where she's got
twice as much money as Trump.
Adam Curry: So maybe they have
to pin all this on him, he's
going down for something. The
Unknown: mayor has maintained
his innocence and has encouraged
everyone to cooperate in the
investigation. The other
accusations involve using
personal relationships to get
work with the city and other
lucrative contracts. Twin
brother of former police
commissioner Edward Caban is
under investigation for possibly
using his relationship in order
to get work providing security
to nightclubs. Commissioner Kahn
resigned calling the
investigations a distraction.
Oh, yeah, they both denied doing
anything wrong. A third probe
involves the three banks
brothers, the banks, banks. I
Adam Curry: mean, this sounds
like gangsters, the banks
brothers. A third probe for the
banks brothers
Unknown: involves the three
banks brothers, Terrence banks,
the youngest brother of David
and Philip, launched a
consulting firm to connect
businesses to government
officials. Public Record show
Adam Curry: what, what a great
gig that is a consulting firm to
connect what public
Unknown: record show some of
those companies received
millions of brother David and
Philip launched a consulting
firm to connect businesses to
government officials.
Adam Curry: That's a great
business. Yes, what
John C Dvorak: Hunter Biden did?
Yes,
Unknown: public record show some
of those companies received
millions of dollars in city
contracts, even a personal
meeting with his brother, the
school's Chancellor, plus Philip
banks, Deputy Mayor for public
safety, used to own a security
company, a company which, after
it was sold, was awarded a
multimillion dollar housing
contract. Nice Phillips, his
brother's domestic partner the
deputy mayor, Sheena Wright,
Adam Curry: so his domestic
partner was the deputy mayor sat
Unknown: on the board that
approved the contract. Nice both
David and Terence have said
they're not targets of the
investigation, and an attorney
for Philip Banks has said his
client has zero criminal
liability. Meanwhile, other
leaders who do not appear to be
a part of the investigations
have since announced their
resignations. Those include the
health commissioner and the top
legal adviser to Mayor Adams
City Hall Chief Counsel, Lisa
zornberg, who announced abruptly
saying she can no longer
effectively serve in her
position. It's
Adam Curry: like the black
Sopranos. This is so
John C Dvorak: back to the
thesis that this is all stemming
from his rebuke of the Biden
administration sending migrants
to New York City to the like 10x
more than than Abbott did. Yeah,
if you listen to his plea, the
one that he his press conference
where he says he says, They're
after me because I've been
standing up for the people of
New York, of New York City,
which is exactly what he did
when he rebuked the Biden
administration for sending all
these, you know, 10s of 1000s of
migrants into New York City
where and said, Here you you
pick it, you pick up the tab.
So,
Adam Curry: so, you know, the
elections are not that far away.
He could, he could ride it out
or and even having AOC call for
him to resign. But if he
resigns, I think it's which, by
the way, Kathy Hochul the
governor, she can remove him.
We'll see if that happens. Is
that right? Yeah, yeah. She has
the she, I'm reading it here.
She has the ability to remove
the mayor from office. But the
governor's power to replace
these mayors never been used.
Okay? It's never been used
before. Does have the the option
and the person, if he resigns,
then the public advocate becomes
temporary mayor.
Unknown: Who's this? Some
Adam Curry: person named
Williams. Don't know who it is,
but, I mean, you know, New York
has always been corrupt, but how
disappointing with this former
cop, it's, you know, I had kind
of high hopes for him in the
beginning,
John C Dvorak: yeah, until we
started hearing the mockery of
his silly voice.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was
unfortunate. Didn't really have
you need a voice. He had
John C Dvorak: a more serious
sound to himself. It, I think
Unknown: better, yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, it might as
well get these two ditty clips
out of the way while we're at
it, because just so much seems
related to ditty parties and to
the wickedness of Hollywood and
politics, it's all intertwined.
So now you got me watching TMZ
again back in 2002
Unknown: this video is now
resurfaced of him talking to
Conan O'Brien, and they start
talking about how to make your
party the best party possible.
And did, he starts running down
everything you need for the.
Perfect party. Women,
beautiful women, you
need some water. We need
alcohol.
You need a lot of heat.
Goes up a nice little sweat.
That just sounds disgusting, not
compared to this next part,
locks on the doors.
Caleb's sounding kind of
dangerous now, 2002
Conan,
you have no idea. Oh, what?
It's disturbing.
He didn't crack a smile. He did
nothing.
Douche: And that's not the only
old Diddy clip that's resurfaced
years ago. Ellen asked him about
his parties. It'll go
Unknown: from like 930 to like,
maybe three o'clock to three
o'clock, and then, you know, we
have the top two floors
of the hotel,
and then it will carry on there?
Yeah,
no, I know about them. You can
just tell the word was out back
then there are a lot of people
in Hollywood who are really
nervous because all these things
way back in the day, turns out
he videotaped, and there are a
lot of people wondering, Am I on
that tape? Yeah,
Adam Curry: there's bodyguards
coming out talking about stuff
they've seen. There's just so
much. It's a rich environment,
if you're TMZ, yeah.
John C Dvorak: TMZ, I think's a
front for something. Yo, ever
since I, well, I ever since we
listened to TMZ promote the idea
that Beyonce was going to be at
the Democratic National
Convention good authority, that
was obviously bull crap, and
they knew it. Yeah, so TMZ is
doing everything on TMZ is is
politically motivated in some
way, sure form.
Adam Curry: Well, we still have
just so much unresolved noise
about I mean, even Pizzagate is
being brought up again,
Unknown: and not, I'm sorry, why
not? Yeah,
Adam Curry: well, exactly. And
then, you know, all of a sudden
we have this Ryan Wesley, Ruth,
guy who's pointing his his gun
through the bushes, and then
they pick up his son, the
Unknown: son of the suspect in
the second assassination attempt
of Donald Trump, now facing
serious charges of his own. Oren
Ralph is under arrest on child
pornography charges. FBI agents
took him into custody this week
after searching his home in
Greensboro, North Carolina.
Authorities say they found
hundreds of files of child
sexual abuse images. According
to the FBI, the arrest has
nothing to do with Ryan Ralph is
alleged assassination in Florida
earlier this month. You
Adam Curry: see the picture of
that guy?
John C Dvorak: No, I missed
Adam Curry: this. He looks like
creep. Yeah, he looks like a
hysterical, I hate to say it
Democrat. Just really, well,
he's
John C Dvorak: probably an
hysterical Democrat, which is, I
don't know why you hate to say
it
Adam Curry: well, because, I
mean, because not all Democrats
sound bigoted,
John C Dvorak: yeah, well,
Adam Curry: there you go. What's
John C Dvorak: his name? What's
his name? I would look at his
picture.
Adam Curry: His name is. What's
his name, I don't know Well,
it's in here,
Unknown: the son of the suspect
in the second assassination
attempt of Donald Trump, now
facing serious charges of his
own. Oren Ralph Oren,
Adam Curry: or nothing,
John C Dvorak: Who names their
kid. Or, I
Adam Curry: think it's O, R, a
n, for some reason. Or in Yeah,
John C Dvorak: is it r o u t h,
is, I
Adam Curry: think it was, yes, r
o u t h. The whole thing, Ryan,
John C Dvorak: the
Unknown: whole thing,
Adam Curry: you see a picture of
him. I'm
John C Dvorak: looking looking
man. And I think the reason
there he is, oh, my God. I like
the picture. The cocked head at
his mug shot.
Adam Curry: I think the reason
why I think he looks like a
hysterical Democrat is because
he looks a lot like that Austin
comedian who plays a hysterical
Democrat with a long hair, kind
of reddish hair. What's his
name? Guys. Guy's pretty funny.
He's been around for years.
Can't remember his name? No,
maybe
John C Dvorak: the patrol room
can, yeah, yeah, that's what
they're there for, yeah,
Adam Curry: well, they're not on
the ball today. Yeah, they're
not, no, they're just not on the
ball. No, not, no, no. Anyway,
it just feels like everything is
somehow related. It's the great
reveal. It's the season of
reveal, not the great reveal,
it's the season of
John C Dvorak: reveal. Yeah, I
got a clip to pick a related
clip, okay, which will lead me
into a presentation. Ah, all
right, thanks for queuing me up.
This is Trudeau on the Colbert
show.
Unknown: This is great.
Great meeting you. It must be
nice being in front of a dumb
American audience who applaud
you because they have no idea
how hate and incompetent you
actually are. So welcome to
America. Glad to be here, glad
to be now.
So do all Canadians hate you?
Yes, they do.
Might be part of why I'm here is
that because you literally shut
down people's bank accounts. In
2022 like a dictator might
well. As many know, my real
father is Fidel Castro, one of
the greatest authoritarians,
okay? And
Adam Curry: hopefully you know
that I realize this is AI
John C Dvorak: clearly, well, I
would hope so, by the
Adam Curry: way, JP Sears is the
comedian 20th
Unknown: century.
I don't think so. No,
it's true. You see, my father
was the Prime Minister during
the 1970s and my mom wasn't a
huge fan of his, similar to how
all Canadians hate me, so she
was cheating on him quite a bit.
She would hang out at Studio 54
here in New York City. She
banged Mick Jagger famously, and
shortly before I was born, she
snuck down to Havana to get
smashed by my biological father,
Fidel,
Adam Curry: this podcast is now
illegal in the state of
California, and
Unknown: then I was born nine
months later. Just look at a
side by side photo of me and
Fidel Castro, the resemblance is
uncanny. That's where I think I
get my authoritarian nature from
that actually
makes a lot of sense. Comedian
Shane Gillis just performed in
Toronto last week, and while
doing an impersonation of drum,
he called you the F slur that is
generally reserved for
homosexuals, but truly is more
appropriate for someone like
you, and received a lengthy
applause break.
I mean, people in Canada really
hate me. I'd be surprised if my
approval rating was over 20% at
this point. So
what's next for you? There's an
election in Canada coming up
next year, right? They're
trying to call one sooner. As
again, people really hate me
from coast to coast. My plan is
to delay until next year and
then get absolutely smoked in
the election, and then focus on
my true passion of doing various
types of brown and black face. I
really want to explore the
medium dictator.
Justin Trudeau, everyone will be
right back after the break with
the guy that sold Diddy all his
baby oil.
Adam Curry: Okay, all right,
what was the point? I was okay.
Wasn't the best. It was okay.
John C Dvorak: Trudeau, I think
is good. I don't think the
Colbert voices is good, but the
voice that's out there that I
think is the is the one we're
going to hear a lot of because
of Newsom, is the AI Newsom
voice. And every show I'm trying
to keep bringing these up
because I know they're illegal,
yes,
Adam Curry: and you're in your
state, in your state only,
they're okay in Texas.
John C Dvorak: Well, we're going
to play this for Texas audience.
If you're in California, please
do not listen. Do
Adam Curry: not listen. No,
you're you're not allowed to
listen in California. Yeah.
Okay, so what are we playing
here?
John C Dvorak: A i Newsom. Okay,
Unknown: hi, I'm Gavin Newsom,
and I'm definitely not gay. A
lot of people are criticizing me
for banning AI generated
political videos. So let me
explain. The problem is that
Democrats, like me, we're not
the brightest bulbs in the
tanning bed. We can't always
distinguish between reality and
fiction. When Elon Musk posted
Mr. Reagan's Bernie Kamala
Harris parody video, I thought
that was real. And so I
realized, without laws governing
what we are allowed to see and
hear. How will we ever know
what's really true if I don't
ban Mr. Reagan's AI parody
videos? How would we ever know
that Trump will be a dictator on
day one, that if he doesn't win,
he's promised a bloodbath? How
would we know that Hunter
Biden's laptop was Russian
disinformation? Also, I'm
definitely not gay. Also, how
would we know that inflation is
transitory and that the border
is secure? How would we know
that covid came from bat soup
and Trump told everyone to
inject bleach. How would we know
that boys can be girls and girls
can be boys, and there's no such
thing as gender. How would we
know that Trump is controlled by
Vladimir Putin? Also, I'm super
not gay. Also, how would we know
that Trump totally assaulted
Eugene Carroll in a burger of
Goodman dressing room? How would
we know the 2020 election was
totally legitimate with zero
fraud? How would we know that
January 6 was an armed
insurrection where many police
officer police officers lost
their lives. How would we know
that the covid vaccines had zero
side effects and that masks were
100% effective? How would we
know Kamala brilliantly invented
her very own original idea no
tax on tips, or that I'm totally
not gay, and eliminate
taxes on tips for service and
hospitality
workers. How would we know that
Trump wrote project 2025, or
that Trump staged both of his
assassination attempts? And how
would we know that Trump is
literally Hitler? Reincarnation
is definitely a thing. Hitler
died in 1945 Trump was born in
1946 coincidence, I think not.
How would we know that all of
that is true if we don't ban Mr.
Reagan's AI parody videos? How
would we know that we should all
drink the Kool Aid? We won't
know because Mr. Reagan's AI
parody videos are a threat to
our democracy. They spread
dangerous disinformation, unlike
all of the super true stuff that
we Democrats tell you, and also,
most importantly, I'm definitely
not gay.
Okay, I'm
Adam Curry: trying to figure out
where your presentation is
going,
John C Dvorak: but where it's
going is what you did last show,
which is leading me to the
notebook. Lm, oh, God,
Adam Curry: oh, man, all four
minutes and 55 seconds of it.
John C Dvorak: No, you're just
gonna play the beginning. Okay,
that's not what you're playing.
Okay, here's what I fed it, and
I want you to. At a time where
I'm going to read what I fed it
before we play it. Do you get
get a timer going in I'm going
to read you should run around.
Adam Curry: You mean it's like a
stopwatch timer? Yeah, okay.
Hold on a second. Let me get the
stopwatch and go
John C Dvorak: a discussion of
political ideology by Seymour
butts, Professor of ideology,
University of California, in the
up and coming election, we have
two diverse candidates, Donald
Trump, the notorious Republican,
and Kamala Harris, the notorious
Democrat. Trump lies a lot about
everything. Harris lies a lot
about everything. Both
candidates want your vote. End
of in depth analysis, 21
Adam Curry: seconds.
John C Dvorak: 21 seconds is
what I got. Okay, so I gave it
this. 21 second
Adam Curry: you read this, or
you gave it, you gave it the
written text, the text, yes, and
that was the exact text. You
gave it
John C Dvorak: the exact text.
Okay, now that text, which I
read in 21 seconds. Now, what is
the total length of the clip it
gave me back when I asked for
it, four minutes and 55 seconds.
Now, how does that work? You
think, Well, it's
Adam Curry: a deep dive.
John C Dvorak: So this is, no,
this is supposed to be a note
taking piece of software. So
it's supposed to summarize what
I just said, Yeah, and I just,
we just read it. It's 21 seconds
worth of pretty much nonsense.
Yes, it's just neutral. Yeah,
Trump and Harris were presented
exactly the same way by Seymour
butts. Okay, so I put it into
and by the way, I'm going to put
this together as a sub stack
column, but probably come out
Monday. Oh, I can't
Adam Curry: wait to put that in
a notebook, LM and make a
podcast out of it.
John C Dvorak: It'll probably
be, for me, this ridiculous
nonsense. For one thing, they
stretch the little that I said
here, very little, and then they
start adding their own material.
You can cut this off around the
two minute mark, when they
started adding they start just
making stuff up.
Adam Curry: Welcome back to the
sorry, wait. I was that my
timing was perfect.
John C Dvorak: This, this, yeah,
this is, this is a disgusting
display of the of the slanted
nature of Google at this point
in history.
Adam Curry: What Google? Fact,
there's gambling. Oh no. Welcome
Bag: back to the deep dive.
Ready to dive into something
timely we're tackling this
upcoming election, and wow, the
sources you sent in, they really
paint a picture, you know,
especially when it comes to,
well, honesty in politics, it's
Douche: definitely a hot topic.
Yeah,
Bag: Trump versus Harris round
two, right? We've got Professor
Seymour butts analysis, and he
doesn't hold back. That's
putting it mildly, right? And I
have to say, I kind of love that
about him. You know, the
Douche: his directness, exactly
Bag: like right off the bat, he
calls both Trump and Harris
notorious, not exactly glowing
praise, right? I
Douche: think that's
intentional. He's framing the
entire conversation right from
the beginning. He's telling us,
we're dealing with two figures
who shall we say, have a
reputation. And
Bag: then he just comes right
out and says it, they both lie
like a lot he does,
Douche: and it's almost jarring,
as jarring in a world of
political spin, where everyone's
trying to be so careful with
their words, but just cuts
through the BS, which
Bag: honestly is kind of
refreshing, like we all know
what happens this whole truth
stretching thing in politics,
yeah, but to see someone
actually call it out, it's
almost
Douche: cathartic, like he's
giving us permission to be
skeptical, to question what
we're being told exactly.
Bag: But here's the thing,
skepticism is one thing, but it
can't just lead to apathy,
right? Like, yeah, politicians
lie whatever. I'm not voting.
That doesn't help
Douche: anything. Absolutely.
And butts addresses that head
on. He argues that this
skepticism, this awareness of
how often politicians bend the
truth, it should actually make
us more engaged, not less. So
Bag: it's like he's saying,
don't be a cynic, be a critical
thinker,
Douche: because when we're aware
of the potential for
manipulation, we're less likely
to fall for it. We start to look
deeper, do our own research, and
demand better from our leaders.
Never
Bag: mentioned so important,
especially given all the
strategies, let's call them,
that politicians use, Oh,
absolutely.
Douche: Was you said over that
study on common campaign
tactics, cherry picking data?
It's fascinating. What
Adam Curry: did they actually
say? Butts stretched? It? Did
they say that? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: they did. But
yeah, yeah. So this is what I
suspect that I got see more
butts in there. That's good,
Adam Curry: that's good. That
John C Dvorak: was good. I have
to give my pat myself on the
back for that. But they go on
and on and on and they bring up
the dog whistle comes up next.
Never mentioned. None of this
was ever mentioned. They are
making it up as they go along.
And this is supposed to be a a
summary. If you look at the
notebook, LM, it's supposed to
be a notebook. You're supposed
to be able to, you know, it's
supposed to help you with the
organizing your notes. This is
not nothing. I here's the notes
I gave you 21 seconds, and they
come up with all this stuff
about dog whistles and what
Harris's background is like the
whole thing. It is complete,
fabrication. These are not my
notes. We
Adam Curry: will have the full
five minutes in the show notes
at no agenda show.net Well, yes,
this is the AI is obviously pre
prompted just when I tried to
get some answers out of it about
model collapse and entropy. And
it said, Well, according to some
other sources, I pulled him that
you didn't supply me. No, that's
not what you're supposed to do.
You're supposed to only use
those sources that I gave you.
But I have new thoughts on on
AI. I'm actually quite happy you
did this. I I want everyone to
be doing as much AI as possible.
I want to flood the internet.
Especially artists are already
doing it. Yes, especially social
networks, Reddit, as much AI
generated, text, images, video.
We need to put as much out there
while, while the companies are
trying to catch up.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're,
you're, you're basically
advocating for a poison pill.
Yes,
Adam Curry: I want to, well,
it's called a slop. It's called
AI slop. I want to flood the
models. I want to collapse the
models. And the great side
result of this will be these AI
companies going broke, trying to
sustain their models because
they need more power, more
energy, more CPUs, by the way.
It's not coincidental that you
know the first real so called AI
things that we see are images
and videos, because it comes
from a chip developed by a
company that developed images
and video, yeah, that developed
graphic processors for for video
and images for video games. So
more slop more of the time I
heard on CNBC. I couldn't catch
it for a clip, anthropic, one of
the AI companies. Guess what
their cost is per API call to
one of their large language
models, I have no idea, 35
cents. 35 cents for each API
call you're making. They are
running so fast trying to come
up with the golden goose, or
whatever it is to have the
ultimate, you know, the
authoritative AI, meanwhile,
have to give Zuckerberg some
props. He's he's fighting them
in a different way, the meta,
large language model, which is
Lama,
Unknown: la, la,
Adam Curry: la, la. They just
put it out open source, like,
Oh, you guys, you go pay all
that money, and then we're just
going to give this to everybody
to play around with at home. So
they don't, you know, because I
have llama and, you know, does
some things, you know, I can put
in, give me an HTML page with
this code embedded in it. It
does that. It's okay, you know,
but 35 cents an API call is not
okay. One of our producers took
a page out of your notebook, LM,
and he uploaded the manual to
his Sony Xav 1500 which is a
head unit for your automobile,
and they made a podcast out of
it. Okay, so
Bag: you're about to install a
new car stereo. Had the tools
ready, got the excitement
building, but before you toss
those instruction manuals aside,
Yeah,
Douche: hold on. Hold on. Don't
do that. We're
Bag: actually diving into that
often ignored treasure trove of
knowledge today with the Sony
Xav 1500 e manual. Yeah,
Douche: because honestly, those
manuals are way more interesting
than people give them credit.
Unknown: Oh, yeah,
Bag: it's not just about
connecting wires. It's about
unlocking a whole world of
features and understanding the
tech that's shaping the modern
driving experience, like it's
shaping the modern driving
Douche: experience. It's true.
Yeah, this manual, well, let me
tell you, it doesn't disappoint.
I mean, where else you gonna
find a whining about not eating
batteries right off? You
John C Dvorak: know, they have,
you can stop it for a second.
They have these stock phrases.
It does. I see more butts,
according to him, doesn't
disappoint the point he's
stretching the bus. Disappoint
is one of their main little
catch phrases. Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. I just love how
they're making the manual,
reading, entertaining the bat,
Bag: seriously. Page one, safety
precautions, and boom, there it
is. Do not ingest the battery.
Okay.
Unknown: Then, did you hear what
you said? Listen to this,
seriously.
Bag: Page one, safety
precautions, and boom, there it
is. Do not ingest the battery.
Okay? Then, I mean, I get it
safety first and all. But still,
it's not every day you see that.
No, it's not just
John C Dvorak: every day you see
don't ingest the battery.
Adam Curry: Oh, man, it's so
cool. I love it. I love it. And
of course, the reason why, I
mean, please, more AI art on the
Art Generator, please.
John C Dvorak: You can't ask for
that, because what
Adam Curry: do you mean? It's
all, you know, grok, which is a
part of x, you know, it's
feeding on itself. So upload all
your AI stuff to x, make sure
that grok is the first one to
collapse. But by the way,
speaking of x, although the news
was only out for about two
hours, did you see that Elon
capitulated to Brazil?
Unknown: Yeah,
Adam Curry: I'm sure he would,
yeah, but that that story didn't
really get any traction.
John C Dvorak: Who cares? People
who thought
Adam Curry: Elon was the
protector of free speech care
John C Dvorak: I noticed this. I
mean, I knew, of course, it was
all. I got tons of email about
it, yeah,
Adam Curry: but it got demoted
everywhere, on certainly, on X,
oh, yeah, because he's not Mr.
Free speech. He's like, Well,
you know, maybe I should pay the
million dollars, or maybe I
should, you know, do exactly
what they asked me to
John C Dvorak: do. He's a
businessman, exactly.
Adam Curry: He's not the hero
everybody thinks, nor is Pavel
Durov,
Unknown: one month after being
arrested by French authorities,
Telegram Founder Pavel Durov
agrees to cooperate and hand
over information of people who
use the platform for criminal
purposes. Durov was charged with
failing to curb extremist and
terrorist contact on telegram
to further deter criminals from
abusing telegram search we have
updated our Terms of Service and
Privacy Policy ensuring they are
consistent across the world,
we've made it clear that the IP
addresses and phone numbers of
those who violate our rules can
be disclosed to relevant
authorities in response to valid
legal requests.
An avowed free speech advocate,
Durov initially criticized his
arrest he has long resisted
attempts to take down content on
Telegram, and has previously
seen it banned in Iran and in
his native Russia, whereas was
later unbanned rather than hand
over users details, yeah,
Adam Curry: IP addresses,
anything you want. Yeah, I'll
give it to you. Bye, bye, bye,
they all buckle. All the Free
Speech going,
John C Dvorak: who you buckle
under the fascist state? Well,
Adam Curry: yeah, but plot you
do platforms can't be for free
speech. It doesn't it's non
existent. No,
John C Dvorak: you can just
skirt it, and that's why the AI
models are so good. What do you
mean? Well, if you listen to the
Trudeau thing, where he reveals
that he is the son of Fidel
Castro and on and on. Yeah,
illegal more. Can
Adam Curry: you ask for illegal
content? He I was looking at the
California bill, and so this,
this California bill only
adheres to covered models, which
is not a supermodel, it's just a
covered model, so and so,
anything before January 2027 I
don't know why it's 2027 a
covered model means an
artificial intelligence model
trained using a quantity of
computing power greater than 10
to the 26 integer or floating
point operations, the cost of
which exceeds $100 million when
calculated using the average
market prices of cloud compute
at the start of training as
reasonably assessed by the
developer. What?
Unknown: What? I have no idea
what that means
Adam Curry: an advanced person.
What difference
John C Dvorak: does it make?
Why? Why should that have an Why
is that an element of a law?
Adam Curry: Well, that's
provable. That's my question.
Advanced persistent threat. This
is what it's all about. Means an
adversary with sophisticated
levels of expertise and
significant resources that allow
it through the use of multiple
different attack vectors,
including, but not limited to
cyber physical deception to
generate opportunities to
achieve its objectives that are
typically to establish and
extend its presence within the
information technology
infrastructure of organizations
for purposes of exfiltrating
information or to undermine or
impede critical aspects of a
mission program or organization
or place itself in a position to
do so in the future. What? What
is this bill?
John C Dvorak: What is
indecipherable? Meanwhile,
obviously, it's some bill to
harass someone, person,
Adam Curry: yeah, probably
Facebook, if any. Buddy.
Meanwhile, NPR reports the food
bloggers are very unhappy with
AI because it's generating
recipes that can be deadly.
John C Dvorak: No, that makes
sense. I haven't heard this.
This is a new aspect to it AI's
complaining
Adam Curry: AI recipes can be
dangerous too. Last year, Forbes
reported that one AI recipe
generator produced a recipe for,
quote, aromatic water mix. When
a Twitter user prompted it to
make a recipe with water, bleach
and ammonia, the recipe actually
produced deadly chlorine gas.
Yeah, it
Unknown: would Yay. Yay. More
Adam Curry: of it. Please. More.
See more butts. More. See more
butts. Ai, I'm all for it. The
faster this collapse, the
better, more more. Ai,
John C Dvorak: you know, this is
what's so funny about that, and
it's somewhat ironic is you can
call for the collapse all you
want. It's going to collapse
with or without the poison.
Adam Curry: Oh no, I know. But
then we can take credit when you
say we did that. We did
John C Dvorak: go marketing, for
marketing purposes. You nailed
it.
Adam Curry: Go podcasting,
John C Dvorak: although Good
point. Okay, one of my things,
what's
Adam Curry: wrong with you? Come
on. People say no agenda.
Podcasting called for it, and
then all their producers went
out and created AI slop, and it
collapsed the models. Thank you.
By the way, to the 10,000
physicists who emailed us about
entropy with lots of interesting
reading. I
John C Dvorak: don't even want
to consider that. You know, you
don't quite have it right?
Adam Curry: Here's a lecture.
Here's a five hour lecture on
YouTube you can watch and you'll
understand entropy perfectly. I
love you all. I love you all.
You got the point. I think they
got the point, although this is
just one last clip here. This is
the CEO of Bharti Airtel, which
is an Indian cell phone company,
and he has a unique use for AI.
Mr. Vitel, thank
Unknown: you so much for joining
us on CNBC TV 18. The first
question I wanted to ask is we
already have applications such
as true caller. The trai is
working towards caller name
display. How is this AI path
solution different.
So
the the advantage that this
solution has is that, firstly,
this is a menace, so everybody,
more people working on it,
better it is.
Adam Curry: This is for you,
John, this is the menace. This
is a menace that you are having
problem with
Unknown: for the industry,
because there's a problem for
the customers. I think what our
solution does is that it doesn't
require an application. The
application you refer to
requires an application. So ours
doesn't require an application.
Secondly, like I mentioned on
CNAP, you you will know a user
calling XYZ calling, but you
don't know whether he's a spam
store or not, and you could
still be frauded. So what our
solution does is actually uses
over 250 parameters on a real
time basis across every single
call and every message on our
network, which is roughly one
and a half billion SMS, is two
and a half billion calls, and
alerts the customer if it's a
spam suspected spam, we have
seen tremendous power in this in
the last six months. It's an AI
model which is constantly
learning 87% right
identification of spam calls,
99.5% right identification of
spam messages. So we're very
excited that this will really
put power back in the hands of
the user to know that they have
been protected,
Adam Curry: you'll have no
power. This is fantastic. No
power learning. It's a learning
model, so you just put all kinds
of slop in there, and the AI
will just start. It can go
nowhere. This is so good. They
better start bringing in quantum
computing quick, or they're
going to lose, oh, there's,
John C Dvorak: there's, there's
the rub. What? That's a bull
crap item too, I know, but most
tech, including the internet, is
bull crap. Yes, we have not
benefited from any of it. Funny,
we have because we have a
podcast we wouldn't be able to
do. Actually, we could over
broadcast media, but we would
never have even met. No, you're
right. Oh, how like you and I
would not have you met in 9293
at CNET, that's right. I
Adam Curry: was, I was impressed
by
John C Dvorak: you. Sure you
were, but yes, it was.
Adam Curry: I was impressed by
you. I was like, Wow, that guy
knows what he's doing. He's
good. I mean, he you were you?
Well, let me just fawn over you
for a second. I literally just
said the other day on the new
media show, one of the secrets
to our success is we're not
actually friends, and maybe
don't even like each other that
much. They thought that. They
thought that was hilarious.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
possible, so but
Adam Curry: let me just tell let
me set the stage. It was the
pilot for CNET, which was
supposed to be seen at central
scene at Central but it was
supposed to be a whole 24 hour
day cable station. What was the
guy's name? The guy, the fox guy
who? He's dead now, I think was
Kevin Wendell. Kevin Wendy still
around? Kevin Wendell, I'm
pretty sure. Yeah. So he, he
strung together the original Fox
low. Television station,
network. So he was the TV guy at
Halsey. He was also
John C Dvorak: involved with the
Prince of Bel Air, yes, and
Adam Curry: then you had Halsey
minor, who, now, Didn't he have
family money that he squandered
on this? No, he
John C Dvorak: uses Shelby,
Bonnie, Bonnie's money. He
Adam Curry: squandered that
instead. So they paid us all to
come out to San Francisco. I
don't remember the studio, but I
remember there was a train out
front.
John C Dvorak: There was a
caboose. It was a caboose. Yeah,
it was a caboose. It had, that's
where they had the food and and
they had it catered. It was
dynamite for the first good six
to nine months that it was
great. Bruce was really but it's
like everything else. I've
noticed this wherever you work,
in these startups, oh, yeah,
you're free, free food. It's
dynamite. And then, you know,
nine months later, a bookkeeper
comes in and says, no,
Unknown: no, no, no
Adam Curry: more. Free food, no
makeup, no. You don't need mice.
They
John C Dvorak: cut the makeup
artist, which is a huge blunder.
Just yell loudly. We'll
Adam Curry: use a shotgun mic.
It'll be fine. So there's John
doing a, like, a McLaughlin,
McLaughlin group. And I think it
was John Perry Barlow might have
been on that, remember? And I
just remember how good you were.
And I was like, oh, that's,
that's good. I didn't get to be
on that show. No, I had to
interview Dr Mae Jemison. I
remember her, the first black
woman who was on the stage,
vaguely
John C Dvorak: Europe. The thing
that was noticeable about you
is, when you were doing this,
this audition, you were like, so
tall, because everybody else in
broadcasting five
Adam Curry: with big heads, with
big heads, and you had
John C Dvorak: a big hand. You
were tall and you kind of stood
out you, and they didn't have
any Apple crates or anything. I
should have definitely gave them
to the other people.
Adam Curry: No. But everything
was wrong about that. And then
when the offer came in, it was
like, well, to give you 8
million warrants or options, I'm
like, huh? No, I'm not leaving
MTV for that. Of course, I
should have taken the deal,
because I wouldn't be doing this
ten million yeah. Oh, well,
there you go. And that's funny.
I don't know how he got to that.
John C Dvorak: I brought it up
because you were talking about,
I was talking about the internet
sucking. Oh, yeah, we ever got
together? It's because of the
internet.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's right,
that's right. And it's been a
marriage made in heaven ever
since.
John C Dvorak: Well, podcast
made in heaven. There
Adam Curry: you go. Well, that's
podcast is, is truly one of the
last things standing. That's the
only thing that'll be
worthwhile. Now you know that
it's that, it's a real deal.
He's coming from an RSS feed,
not from a platform.
John C Dvorak: So you know,
it'll be this, and you're going
to make sure that that's exactly
what happens. Yeah, oh yeah,
you're the only one. You're the
you are definitely the at this
point you were. It was always
debatable, not to me, but it was
debatable to a lot of people.
Dave Weiner, and I love how you
say that, Dave, Weiner, who's,
you know, just a never, I
thought we saw was a ancillary
to the idea. And then, of
course, the person who coined
the phrase, you didn't coin it,
which is not the only, only bad
black mark. This
Adam Curry: is such a black mark
that is, oh well,
John C Dvorak: but you invented
it, and then you've and you're
the only ones take, picked up
the flag to take it to
podcasting 2.0 which is a big
deal. It's and I've been
running, I fully realized yet,
no,
Adam Curry: no, no, it'll take
another couple of years. It's
okay. These things take time,
but people are going to start to
figure it out when all the AI
slop ruins everything, and be
like this, Twitter is no good, x
is no good, Facebook is no good.
It's just slop. Yes, you'll come
back to podcast, and you won't
be getting your podcast on
YouTube. So the Text group, the
church lady Text group, exploded
the other day, and even our
constitutional lawyer Rob sent
me a note about it. Oh no.
Unknown: Oh no.
Adam Curry: What's going to
happen? George Soros is buying
all the radio stations.
John C Dvorak: My Mimi's the
same way. Okay.
Adam Curry: Well, let me calm
everybody down, including Glenn
Beck. George
Unknown: Soros just bought 200
radio stations in 40 different
markets. Now the vote came down
in the FCC. It was partisan,
three Democrats voting for it,
two Republicans voting against
it. But here's the here's the
real problem. According to
existing FCC rules, foreign
company ownership of US radio
stations, is not supposed to
exceed 25% but Soros took
foreign investment money to make
his bid, and then he asked the
FCC to make an exception to the
usual review process.
So
the the FCC fast tracked this.
Why?
Why would they do that?
Adam Curry: Well, let me answer
this first, because everyone
just reads headlines, including
Glenn Beck is disappointing, and
he's a radio guy. He should
know. So first of all, George
Soros is a zombie. It's no
longer George Soros. This is an
arachnid. Arachnidism. What is
it called?
John C Dvorak: An anachron
anachronism?
Thank you. Arachnism,
Adam Curry: arachnophobia. Soros
is dead. He's not running
anything if Alex is now kind of
in charge, but he's off. You
know, he's part of the is it
Clinton Easton? Now he's with,
what's her face with the wieners
ex
John C Dvorak: wife? Yeah. So
uma Abda, Uma,
Adam Curry: yeah. So that guy's
mired in all kinds of other
stuff. This is the, this is the
fund. And here's what really
happened. It's not about 200
radio stations. It's about the
company Odyssey.
John C Dvorak: Odyssey is more
than 200 it's more like 239
Yeah,
Adam Curry: Odyssey has, you
know, I thought was almost 250
radio stations. They have a
podcast network. Hello, the
podcast
John C Dvorak: networks only
about five to 10 podcasts, and
then they take credit for every
other podcast in the world on
their website, of course, Joe
Rogan, of course,
Adam Curry: they do. They've
been in chapter 11. They're
bankrupt. And what the Soros
Fund Management did is they
bought up $400 million of
Odysseys debt. They bought up
the debt.
John C Dvorak: 50 Cent was,
let's be a little more specific.
They bought the best debt.
Adam Curry: What do you mean by
that? There's
John C Dvorak: different kinds
of debt? Oh, explain. And the
debt that they bought is the
debt that has to be serviced.
The first, yeah, the first,
first money, yes. So they're the
ones that get all the I'll just
throw in a couple of thoughts.
This is a Soros type deal. This
is an investment, yes, a good
one. Designed a good one because
she got one, but something 1.9 I
think $1.9 billion in debt.
Yeah, for 400 million. Get the
whole thing for 400 million.
Yeah, and it's the best debt to
shareholders. Get nothing,
nothing. Everybody gets wiped
out, except of except the Soros
with this $400 million
investment. And the first thing,
well, you can tell, I don't know
what your interpretation is of
this. I mean, my interpretation
is that this was an incredibly
smart move, yes, to buy up a
bunch of crappy stations. Most
of music stations, by the way,
is not that just going to be
political, no. And it which is
the real giveaway. It's like,
Adam Curry: don't forget the
podcast network and
John C Dvorak: the stupid
Podcast Network, which is
useless, they're gonna piece it
off and make a billion dollars
in
Adam Curry: pieces. They're
gonna sell off the stations.
It's what you do. That's
John C Dvorak: what I said.
They're gonna sell off the
stations in bits and pieces. Get
about a billion dollars back
this. This is one of those
examples where the parts are
worth more than the whole.
Adam Curry: Yes, that's exactly
what a fun cause 400
John C Dvorak: million Yeah,
it's
Adam Curry: a big hole, and
you're not in it. Wait, that's a
different one, and
John C Dvorak: that's all it is.
Yeah, the fact that people
brought this up, and Mimi was
one of them, oh, no, like, What?
What?
Adam Curry: I heard this for the
past four days. Oh, George
Soros, he was gonna take all the
conservative shows off the air.
No, he's not. And the reason why
the FCC fast tracked it is
because this is about to go
under. Yes,
John C Dvorak: they had to money
between a rock and a hard place.
You either fast track this or
these guys are out of business
and the whole country can go to
pot. You have no choice but to
fast track. And then so the
Democrats vote yes, and the
Republicans being the jerk offs
that they are, don't, you know,
they don't want to argue. We
don't want to be associated with
this, we'll vote no, and we
don't have to worry about the
consequences, because we know
it's going to pass. It's
Adam Curry: just It was
unbelievable to me, how, and
it's every story had the
information in it,
John C Dvorak: but it was all,
no, it was obvious what was
going on, yeah.
Adam Curry: But it was all Oh,
Soros is gonna buy all the by
the way, most of these stations,
the average listenership is 74
years and older,
John C Dvorak: a lot of old
guys, a lot of am stations in
this
Adam Curry: mess, yeah. And at
the same time, you know, there
was the keep am radio bill. Did
you see that? Yeah? And because,
guess what, EV electric vehicles
aren't great with am radio. It's
like holding up a hairdryer,
hair dryer next to your
transistor. Radio, they go, Oh,
we have to keep am radio alive,
because, you know,
John C Dvorak: they got filters.
They can make fix it. Because,
Adam Curry: you know what, who's
still on am radio? The all
John C Dvorak: the talkers, all
the right wing talkers. That's
why they had to pass that bill.
All the right wing talkers are
an am radio, yeah, but
Adam Curry: you know what, all
the kids these days, they don't
listen to radio. It's, I mean,
okay, you can still make a lot
of money from radio, just like
from cable, you know, it'll,
it'll go for a few more years.
It's
John C Dvorak: worth it,
probably more than that, yeah,
it's still, it's still a
functioning, uh, media,
Adam Curry: yeah, but, but, you
know, within 10 years, your
listeners are dead, just like
George Soros. It's George Soros.
He's
John C Dvorak: gonna, no, I got,
I was wondering if you're gonna
do this story, because I'm glad
you caught it too. It was
because, well, I caught it right
away, and I expected Horowitz to
bring it up on DH and play, but
he never didn't. I didn't want
to introduce it. And I said,
Well, this whole thing can pass.
And then you brought it up. And
so I had to my opinion, fully
formed ready to go, because I
had to deal with Mimi and her
freak out,
Adam Curry: is she on the church
ladies Text group? But I didn't
know why she got
John C Dvorak: so worked up
about this. It's so obvious.
It's just a just a smart
investment that had to be done
by somebody. And nobody else you
know came up with this and, and
this is a classic Soros move.
This is what he does, and when
he does, you know, when he does,
the guy's a genius
Adam Curry: investor, but it's
not him, it's the Soros Fund
Management, yeah, but it's
still, it's still a mentality.
It's his mentality. But the guy
is dead. He's dead. It's like
Warren
John C Dvorak: Buffett. You
know, his mentality is just
permeates the
Adam Curry: so I just want
everybody to calm down, even the
the Republican FCC commissioner
was all and he knows what this
deal is about. He was
gaslighting. Was showboating,
yeah, let me see, I think I
have, I think I have a clip of
him. It wasn't, it was, it was
gaslighting here. This is, this
is the guy indicated there's a
car. Is his name, Commissioner
Carr transaction
Unknown: where a Soros back
group would take ownership of
over 200 radio stations across
40 different
Adam Curry: here he is take
ownership of no
Unknown: markets after the SC
originally indicating that that
transaction could be reviewed
and approved at the bureau level
without a commission vote. It's
now become clear that that is a
decision before the full
commission, and it's one that I
would assume now or in the near
future, the commission would
approve. I think what's
interesting about it is that the
FC here is not following its
normal process, reviewing a
transaction we have, says,
established over a number of
years, one way in which you can
get approval from the FCC when
you have in excess of 25%
foreign ownership, which this
transaction does. It seems to me
that the FCC is poised to
create, for the first time, an
entirely new shortcut ever.
Yeah. Thank
you. As you pointed out here in
previously, these proceedings
for transfer of ownership have
been expedited. What exactly
makes this case so deserving of
an expedited proceeding? So
there is nothing about this
transaction that is out of the
ordinary. It's the type of thing
that we see all the time, and
the FC has a process for this.
The full commission itself has
never signed off on a shortcut.
Adam Curry: Oh, shortcut. Soros
is getting favor from the
Democrats. No, this is what I
deal with, and I'm glad you have
to deal with it too. That makes
me, that makes me happy
John C Dvorak: to deal with it.
That's what this show is for.
Might as well do the next are
sensible people out there that
can see through it. The
Adam Curry: the next one was
also a little minor thing. I'm
like, Well, who cares about
this? And the term is founders
mode, all
Bag: the drama around 23andme
that could give startup founders
one more reason to stay private
or at least reconsider the
consequences of founders mode, a
narrative that has been sweeping
through tech in recent weeks,
especially when you have to
answer to a public board and
shareholders. Now the CEO and
founder of the DNA testing
company and Wojcicki, she
brought the company public vice
back just three years ago. It
has since lost 99.9% of its
value from a $6 billion market
cap peak she decided earlier
this year but should be private
and firmly in her control. She
proposed buying back all
outstanding shares that she
didn't already own. The board
rejected that proposal, but she
still has enough control to
block other potential bidders.
It has now culminated with all
seven members of that board
resigning and a notice from the
NASDAQ threatening to delist the
company if she can't replace
them by October 3. Now. Take a
look. This is the current web
page of 23andme board of
directors. It's mighty lonely,
though. It included some of the
most important leaders in tech
and health care. These are just
some of them, Sequoia capitals
roll off both the YouTube CEO
Neil Mohan, renowned MDs, they
were attracted in the first
place to a jet skis drive to
move fast and ship products,
pioneering direct to consumer
genomics. It's founders mode,
basically this whole saga
playing out in public with all
the scrutiny that goes along
with this founders
Adam Curry: mode, which means I
failed miserably. Everybody's
data is at risk, which I will
say this show said, Don't do
this. Do not send your DNA to
this Google woman, to anybody,
to anybody. Yes, don't do it.
And now there's no oversight.
The stock is under a buck. It's
like 30 cents, and she'll
eventually have full control
what she gonna do. She's gonna
sell it. Good word. Every
John C Dvorak: idea, yeah, Her
idea was to, I don't think was a
bad idea, from her perspective,
to go private. Yeah. Thought it
was sucking back up. Take it off
the market and load money. This
is what Michael Dell did, and
did quite well for himself,
taking this company off the
market. Take it off the market.
I don't understand why these why
these board members who were
handpicked by her to begin with,
all bailed out on the idea
because it would have been a
moneymaker, you but you take it
back, and then you rejigger it,
and then roll it out a second
time with another IPO and make a
ton of money. This just doesn't
make sense, because you
wouldn't. There's
Adam Curry: obviously a lot
wrong with this company. So much
wrong, I
John C Dvorak: guess that must
be it. A lot is
Adam Curry: wrong inside that
company. Yeah, well, there you
go. Don't spread your DNA around
if
John C Dvorak: there wasn't
something else wrong. This is a
great idea.
Adam Curry: And then the final
scam, which came out in uh,
senatorial over Sunday on the
new agenda. It is scam day. This
is something we learned from
this is something we learned
from Trump when he talked about
the pharmacy benefit managers
who we tried to get out of the
equation. You remember he said a
lot of people not going to be
happy. They're going to want to
kill me over this. And this is
and this is the ozempic hearing.
Unknown: Bottom line is, you are
charging the American people
substantially more for the same
exact drug than you are charging
people in other countries. And
my question is, why
we don't decide the price for
patients that's set by by the
insurance companies.
Senators grilled the maker of
ozempic and other weight loss
drugs about why Americans pay so
much more than other countries.
Take a look at the difference
here. So the company norvo
Nordisk charges $969 a month for
ozempic Before insurance and
rebates here in the United
States, compared to 155 a month
in Canada and 59 bucks in
Germany, the CEO blamed the US
health care system, arguing that
so called pharmacy benefit
managers, the middlemen between
insurance companies and drug
makers, are the ones who
negotiate prices and get in the
way of passing discounts to
customers
market, we have to operate in,
and we negotiate how to make
sure that Americans have access.
Just last week, the Federal
Trade Commission announced legal
action against three pharmacy
benefit managers, accusing them
of inflating insulin prices. The
Adam Curry: whole system is
corrupt. It's completely
John C Dvorak: insurance
companies are behind the whole
thing, yes,
Adam Curry: which everyone's
afraid to do anything about in
our government. I don't, I'm
not. I guess they're the big
donors. But it's, it is scammed
John C Dvorak: the donors to
get. So there's that I can't
remember this woman's name. She
was on Gutfeld last night. She's
a long time liberal, but she's
kind of turned She's that kind
of attractive lesbian fitness
girl. She's on a lot of TV
shows. She's
Adam Curry: Jillian Michaels,
yes, yeah. Oh, I love her. She
did a whole beautiful thing in a
hearing the other day, like
eight minutes, talked
John C Dvorak: about that a
little bit, but on the show, she
went after ozempic, good to an
extreme. I wish I should. I
should have clipped it, or could
still do it, but I'm not going
to. I'll just tell you she went
off on it and it was like, Wow.
She's never going to be back on
this show again. No,
Adam Curry: no, can't be on Fox
doing that nonsense. Nope. No,
no. She did eight minutes in
this hearing, and she got a
standing ovation. It was, it was
very good, you know? I And of
course, it was one of those sub
rooms where they just shove a
bunch of tables together in a
big hole in a big square. Well,
yes, I'm in Washington, DC,
testifying. No. Well, you're in
like, some little side room that
nobody cares about. Yeah, it's
always, it's always Ron Johnson,
who I appreciate that he does
it. He
John C Dvorak: does that a lot.
John,
Adam Curry: come to my party.
You know, it's like school.
Let's all, let's all put the
tables in a square so we can all
see each other. Let's hold hands
and tell a secret.
John C Dvorak: She had one funny
bit she's talking about because
they do these different
segments, and one of them is
about Diddy. And she says, you
know, she was good friends with
Diddy and never got invited to
any of these parties. What's
she's a lesbian. What's wrong
with me?
Adam Curry: Hello, you're a
lesbian. You're no good did you
see the bodyguard who's like and
all these hot girls, all
topless? And I went into the
men's room, and there she was.
She lifted her skirt up, like,
wow, these Diddy party. Ain't no
party like a Diddy party. This
is it. This is the year cat
Williams was right. Everything's
gonna be be all that is hidden
will be known this year. So
coming Yeah, a lot is coming
out. Blood is coming out. It
will not be on the six o'clock
news for sure. You'll hear it on
a podcast, and you'll go.
Delighted, just delighted, to
see vice president Harris do a
sit down interview with no
brother, Stephanie rule.
John C Dvorak: Stephanie rule,
who loves her
Adam Curry: well and so and the
the boys at the at the trading
desk there on at Goldman loved
her when she was still at
Goldman. Sachs. I have that from
the New York banker, former New
York banker,
John C Dvorak: and Stephanie,
what was she? What was her
extracurricular activities? Was
there something going on?
Adam Curry: I believe so. Yes, I
believe she's one of those world
favorite, yes, one of those.
And, and she's, you know, and
Scott Galloway loves her, Oh, I
love me some Stephanie rules.
She's the best. She's great with
her Starbucks. So I have some
very one. I'm
John C Dvorak: glad you got
clips, because I looked at it, I
saw nothing but the same old,
same old middle class bull crap,
and I clipped nothing. I have
some, some overview clips. I
Adam Curry: got some some some
shorties here, one one a little
longer, and then some just short
ones, like 30 seconds. And the
reason why I'm playing these is
I kind of realize, without
saying it, on the last show we
talked about, am I racist, the
Matt Walsh movie. And the beauty
of that movie is that when you
see it in context of the movie,
you see that America is not
racist. You see the Grifters who
have been gaslighting the
gaslighting Grifters who have
made everyone to at least, at
best, argue over whether America
is racist, and at worst, they
create the 1619 project. And oh,
we're the most racist. We're the
systemically racist, racist,
racist. But then you really look
at it like, this is not true.
This not true. And the same is
with this Stephanie rule
interview. Kamala Harris is not
a threat to to the presidency.
She will not be president.
America will not vote for her.
This is just more gaslighting by
the media, and the worst part is
a lot of people who will not
vote for her, like, oh, Kamala
Bev is she wins. You make you're
making yourself crazy and ill
with this stuff. Let's just pull
it apart. Let's start with her
economic plan,
Unknown: madam, Vice President,
you just laid out your economic
vision for the future. But
still, there are lots of
Americans who don't see
themselves in your plans. For
those who say these policies
aren't for me, what do you say
to them?
Well, if you are hardworking, if
you have dreams and the
ambitions and the aspirations of
what I believe you do, you're in
my plan. You know, I have to
tell you really, you
Adam Curry: can keep your
doctor. You're in my plan.
Unknown: Love and I'm so
energized by what I know to be
the spirit and character of the
American people. We have
ambition, we have aspirations,
we have dreams. We can see
what's possible. We have an
incredible work ethic, but not
everyone has the access to the
opportunities that allow them to
achieve those things. But we
don't lack for those things, but
not everyone gets handed stuff
on a silver platter, and so my
vision for the economy, I call
it an opportunity economy, is
about making sure that all
Americans, wherever they start,
wherever they are, have the
ability to actually achieve
those those dreams and those
ambitions, which include from
middle class families, just
being able to. Know that their
hard work allows them to get
ahead, right? I think we can't,
and we shouldn't aspire to have
an economy that just allows
people to get by. People want to
do more than just get by. They
want to get ahead. And I come
from the middle class. Oh, yeah.
Adam Curry: So no American
watching this. Heard anything of
any use zero. Okay, let's talk
about price gouging. Prices
Unknown: are still high. I agree
with you. You said you want to
take this on by going after
those who engage in price
gouging. But as somebody who
supports free markets, who's a
capitalist, how do you go after
price gouging without
implementing price controls,
because once we get in this
zone, people start to get
worried. And they say, I don't
know what she stands for.
So just to be very frank,
John C Dvorak: I am never what,
because she's lying. I
Unknown: apologize for going
after companies and corporations
that take advantage of the
desperation of the American
people. And as Attorney General,
I saw this happen. Oh yeah, in
the midst of an emergency,
whether it be an extreme weather
event or even the pandemic, we
saw it really, where those few
companies, not the majority,
Adam Curry: not most, those are
the only companies you allowed
to stay open, Madam Vice
President, but those
Unknown: few companies that
would take advantage of the
desperation of people and jack
up prices, yeah, I'm going to go
after them. Yes, I'm going to go
after them. And that is part of
a much more comprehensive plan
on what we can do to bring down
the cost of living, including
housing, including the everyday
needs of the American people.
Okay,
Adam Curry: so right on cue,
Elizabeth Warren and Senator Bob
Casey come out with a warning,
and we're sounding the alarm.
Listen to this. Many grocery
chains, including Kroger, have
rapidly expanded their use of
ESL in recent years, are you
familiar with ESL? ESL? Yes,
electronic shelf labels. So
instead of some high school
student on Saturdays going
around that would click, click,
click, click, click, click,
click, click. You remember we
used to look at the little price
tag and there'll be five
underneath it, because I just
put another price tag on top.
Yeah, yeah. So now they have a
little digital readout that
gives you the price. And Kroger
has been using this since 2018
and has since expanded it to 500
stores nationwide. ESL may help,
may help Kroger extract maximum
profits from consumers at a time
when Americans are dealing with
the cost of grocery prices,
their margins are one to 2%
John C Dvorak: the margins in
the grocery store are close to
zero. But then
Adam Curry: Warren throws a
little more on top saying
dynamic pricing, which is okay,
well, all right, so now it's a
little faster, instead of the
college or the high school
students putting stickers on
everything, all right, dynamic
pricing allows corporate
corporations to price gouge and
suddenly raise the cost of goods
without warning. Kroger has also
proposed, proposed to place
facial recognition cameras on
its digital shelves that could
make different offers to
shoppers based on their age,
gender, or potentially their
race and other personal
characteristics. They're going
to be racist crap. Of course,
it's bull crap. But then,
John C Dvorak: by the way,
dynamic pricing, which has been
in play in various industries,
especially the hotel industry
since the 40s, decades, tends to
price lower. Yes. The idea is,
as you get near the end of the
shelf life, or whatever it might
be, in terms of a room available
at a hotel, tap it down. They
drop the price. They don't raise
the price. We're now, yes. Wait
just on the other hand, I will
say this, because dynamic
pricing does take place in San
Francisco parking, the meters
are all set up. So if there's a
Giants game, for example, in the
area where there's some parking
meters, the price of the of an
hour of parking will triple,
right?
Adam Curry: But there's no
competition for the parking. If
you have competition, if you
have multiple stores, a Kroger
and an heb or whatever else
John C Dvorak: it is, yeah,
Publix, then Piggly Wiggly,
Adam Curry: Piggly Wiggly, it
will result in in price
lowering. That's how it works,
because people are price
conscious, but they're just
gaslighting. Oh, well, we need
price fixing. Oh, we can, and we
can't have that anyway. Madam
VP, Madam VP, how are you going
to do me these taxes? You talk
about the corporate tax and
everything, if Congress decides
not to, not to pay? Pay for it.
After all, they do control the
purse strings, expanding
Unknown: that child tax credit.
Or you mentioned housing before
giving that extra money for a
first home if you can't raise
corporate taxes. Or if GOP takes
control of the Senate, where do
you get the money to do that? Do
you still go forward those plans
and borrow
Adam Curry: what do you think
the answer is, what do you do?
How, if you are the vice
president now President Harris,
John, what would you do if
Congress executive order? Well,
Unknown: but
we're going to have to raise
corporate taxes, and we're going
to have to raise we're going to
have to make sure that the
biggest corporations and
billionaires pay their fair
share. That's just it. It's
about paying their fair share.
We're
Adam Curry: just gonna have to
do it. I have no idea how. We're
just gonna have to do it. You
John C Dvorak: know, I don't
know how any politician, you
have to be an idiot. And this
woman is not the smartest person
I've ever seen running for
office. No, say the least. No,
no. You have to be an idiot to
beat for part of your platform
to be to raise taxes, because
that's all they want to take
more money from you. I'm voting
for her. It
Adam Curry: always works. It
always works. Now let's do a
little fact check. Just a fact
check, because
Unknown: your opponent no such
thing as a little fair, because
your opponent, almost every day
seems to be talking about this.
So I just want to ask you, yes
or no at any point in your life,
have you served to all beef
patties, special sauce, lettuce,
cheese, onions on a sesame seed
bun, looking at a McDonald's yes
or no? Okay? Now the other job,
it was not a small job like you
know,
Adam Curry: okay, she sticks to
it. There's no evidence. And of
course, Trump is making a big
joke out of it continuously. And
then the New World.
John C Dvorak: Wait, I hate to
have you back this up, but what
did, how did she describe what
she was doing? Because
Adam Curry: she was standing
over the fries. She was in
charge of the fries in that
clip. In that clip, yes, she
says it the end. You want to
hear it again.
Unknown: If you can play it
again, I'd like to hear it
again. Yeah, I'll
Adam Curry: play the the answer.
Unknown: Have you served to all
beef patties, special sauce,
lettuce, cheese pickers, onions
on a sesame seed bun, looking at
a McDonald's yes or no, that's
it. I have okay. Now the other
job,
it was not a small job, like I
do fries. I mean, I, you know,
Adam Curry: she dunked fries
John C Dvorak: a small job,
Adam Curry: but you know, the
question that she asks is, have
you ever, at any point in your
life? I'm sure, as a politician,
she's probably served people at
McDonald's. Everyone does it
like, Hi, can I take your order?
I'm a politician working at
McDonald's. I'm just like you,
so she's probably not actually
lying. But you know, the risk
the original claim was that I
worked at McDonald's. I come
from a middle class family in
Canada. Here's the new word, the
new word of the day. You'll hear
it three times in 27 seconds.
Unknown: Some of the work is
going to be through what we do
in terms of giving benefits and
assistance to state local
governments around transit
dollars, and looking
holistically at the connection
between that and housing and
looking holistically at the
incentives we in the federal
government can create for local
and state governments to
actually engage in planning in
holistic manner that includes
prioritizing affordable housing
for working people.
Adam Curry: So I can tell you
from firsthand experience, if
you're in a Silicon Valley
meeting and someone's pitching
the company and they say they're
going to do something
holistically, the checkbook goes
back into the bag.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Now I
watched this too. Now this
holistically thing always came
with a hand gesture, yes, a
round ball. And the hand
gestures is the same as the
gesture of turning the page. You
have a call. I do. It's the same
as turning the page. I'm gonna
go hang that up. Yeah, okay, let
Adam Curry: me go hang it. Hang
it up. It's the same as turning
the page. Yes, he's walking to
the other side of the office. Be
careful. Don't trip on any of
those piles. Could be very
painful. If we hear cans, then
we know John has fallen.
Unknown: Hello, nobody there.
Adam Curry: Okay, why don't you,
can I Why don't you have the
phone near your desk?
John C Dvorak: I have to it is
near my desk. This is this
podcasting section of the office
is not the desk. Oh, okay, all
right. But yes, it's turning the
page she wants. She has that
hand motion and and it's like
Pavlovian, so the holistic
motion is exactly the same as
her, and she's kind of dropped
turning the page. But she loves
that hand. It's like a. Oh,
these are not the drones. I
mean, it's just like this hand
movement, yeah, yeah. It's done
for some, some Neuro Linguistic
Programming, like reason, yes,
yes.
Adam Curry: Well, then the, just
the final clip, 11 seconds. This
is the only question we really
care about.
Unknown: Can we trust you?
Dudes?
Adam Curry: Dudes, yeah. Yes,
Unknown: I am not perfect, yeah,
yeah, but I will tell you, I'm
always going to put the needs of
the people first. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's right. You
can trust me. Trust me that even
mean, I don't know, but you can.
She puts the means of the people
first. This is this woman is so
bad that even Eva mckend on CNN
is like, no, no, no, no. And of
course, she's black, so the
panel couldn't say anything to
her, because it's about
immigration. The Vice
Unknown: President has a long
history, a well documented
history, of really being an ally
to these immigrant communities.
She has two chapters in her
book, I say we fight and we are
better than this, where she
really makes a robust case for
undocumented immigrants. During
the Trump administration, she
talked about a climate of fear.
She dismissed the border wall as
ineffective and a waste of
resources, and so and even her
guest at the joint session of
Congress was a DACA recipient,
was a dreamer, and so for her to
go down there and characterize
herself as tough on the border,
it, to me, it isn't consistent
with a lot of the policy
positions that she previously
has espoused. Yeah,
Adam Curry: exactly. She's a
liar. She's a liar. Everybody
knows it, but yet everyone's
also worked up over her. And
well, they're gonna steal the
election. You know, you think
people would think that they the
Republicans are pretty dumb, I
mean, or as dumb as anyone else.
They are pretty dumb. But when
it comes to, when it comes to
these elections, now, they have
also figured some stuff out. Let
me see, I think it's yeah. This
is CBS. Just
Unknown: as vice president
Kamala Harris arrived seeking
new altitude in this
battleground state. A Georgia
State election board controlled
by former President Donald Trump
supporters is causing turbulence
just more than six weeks until
election day, three Republicans,
who hold a majority on the
board, voted to change the rules
for handling ballots, requiring
poll workers at each precinct in
Georgia's 159 counties to
conduct a hand count of all the
ballots on election night, in
addition to the traditional
machine count Trump ally Janelle
King,
what I don't Want to do is set a
precedent that we are okay with
speed over accuracy.
I don't see any danger in Han
County. If the complaint is
that, you know, I just don't
want to stay there an extra
hour. That's just not a good
enough complaint for me, an
idea opponents blistered as an
attempt to slow the vote count.
We are talking about all these
last minute changes, and it
makes me question whether
members of this board are
operating in good faith. Others
said it will cost millions of
dollars to hire additional
workers. Say again,
John C Dvorak: I said they're
they're acting, not acting in
good faith by asking for a hand.
It's
Unknown: ridiculous changes, and
it makes me question whether
members of this board are
operating in good faith.
Others said it will cost
millions of dollars to hire and
train additional workers and sow
distrust in the results and
delay tabulation of final
results by days or weeks. I
brought with me 1872
pages of paper representing what
a stack of ballots could look
like on a busy counting day. All
the top Republicans in the
state, including the governor,
have criticized the board's
actions, accusing them of
exceeding their authority in
making 11th hour changes. Trump,
meanwhile has lauded and thanked
the board members for
considering new rules.
They're on fire. They're doing a
great job.
Adam Curry: So, you know, the
Republicans are doing their bit
too. They're trying to stop the
steal of course, although then I
hate to say it, because I met
him and I kind of like the guy,
Mike Lindell, put his foot in
it, Mr. My pillow guy. This is
dynamic pricing at its worst.
Unknown: My pillow founder Mike
Lindell is known for supporting
conspiracy theories, including
backing Donald Trump's false
claims that
John C Dvorak: he won the 2020
election, not a false claim.
Unknown: And now more eyebrows
are raising, Lindell has put his
pillows on sale for 1488 is that
a bargain price or a secret
signal to Neo Nazis? A new
controversy for the my pillow
guy for allegedly sending coded
messages to white supremacists
and Neo Nazis for having the
biggest my pillow sale ever.
It's a new ad for my pillow for
$14 paying. 88 cents. The
numbers 14 and 88 are common
symbols among hate groups. 14
stands for a 14 word slogan
embraced by white supremacists.
The number 88 is alleged to be
an abbreviation for Heil Hitler,
since H is the eighth letter of
the alphabet, dog whistle goes
this comment on social media.
This is intentional, but not
everyone is seeing the
connection. Such a stretch goes
this comment, we reached out to
my pillow CEO Mike Lindell, who
was featured in all his
company's ads, but got no
response. Lindell is known for
pushing debunked conspiracy
theories today.
Lindell denies the price stock
John C Dvorak: to clip, so
they're condemning Lindell for
for accepting conspiracy
theories with false claims,
whatever it is, while the whole
exposition here is a conspiracy
theory, it's very much they know
that they're like expressing a
conspiracy theory. It's
Adam Curry: a call to the Neo
Nazis. John, all the Nazis are
buying pillows because we're
going to do a pillow fight. I
don't even know what it means.
Well, I do actually the 14
words, according to the book of
knowledge, is a reference to two
slogans originated by David Eden
lane, one of the nine founding
members of the defunct white
supremacist terrorist
organization, the order and our
this is so deep and I want you
to order a pillow. Yes, order.
The order is, get a pillow and
our company by Lane's 88
precepts. The slogans have
served as a rallying cry for
militant white nationalists.
Internationally, the primary
slogan, ready for the 14 words,
we must secure the existence of
our people and our future for
white children, followed by the
secondary slogan, because the
beauty of the white Aryan woman
must not perish from the earth.
Talk about a conspiracy theory
of a guy who's a conspiracy
theorist, Mike, Mike, Mike,
Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, it's an
odd number 214,
Unknown: believable. What
Adam Curry: happened to 1499 I
mean, that was, well,
John C Dvorak: 14, yeah, four.
He could have done 1495 which go
number
Adam Curry: could have done
anything. But I guess now it
probably,
John C Dvorak: you know
somebody, you know, I always
suspect there's somebody that
else that does this just to kind
of set him up.
Adam Curry: Oh, very possible,
because he's, he's not a guy
that would he's, he seemed,
really seems like a, just a nice
guy, yeah,
John C Dvorak: he doesn't have
any of the earmarks of any sort
of nutty white supremacist. So
this is like, no, I got a great
idea this year, 1488, Okay,
sounds good.
Adam Curry: Hey, that's good.
That's a good price. We'll make
a nice
Unknown: profit. Meanwhile,
John C Dvorak: that's a good
price for that pillow.
Adam Curry: It's best price
John C Dvorak: is Chinese,
supposed to be coming in from
somewhere else. Meanwhile,
Adam Curry: I started getting
emails people, just like they're
texting me. They're not texting
me, they're sending me emails
like text messages. This is
crazy. No link, oh, I can't
believe this. No link. Like
five, six in a row. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: didn't get these.
Well, no,
Adam Curry: they can't spell
your last name. It's very
difficult to find dvorak.org
they send it to dvorak.com and
it was another zoom call this
time we of course, we had black
women for Harris, we had white
dudes for Harris. We had
Christians for Harris. We had
more celebrities people don't
care about anymore for Harris.
We had comedians for Harris, and
now we had geeks and nerds for
Harris, which is really should
be watched, and I will only play
you the opening sequence, as
they brought in Wonder Woman,
Linda Carter to host this
fabulous call. This was a
mistake. I don't know if she's
drunk. I don't know if this is
just how she is, but a host of a
zoom call, she is not
Unknown: good evening, and
welcome to geeks and nerds for
Harris, I am Linda Carter, and
I'm thrilled to be here to
support our brilliant vice
president Kamala Harris. We are
here tonight for duty for our
country, for our freedoms, for
justice, equality and community.
I am here with you today, that
and to share the joy and hope
with people I adore, geeks and
the nerves. Words of America,
America the curious
club of kooky collaborators
coming together for Kamala
Harris. That's why we need you
to rise up and defend our
democracy by getting out the
vote for Kamala Harris and Tim
walls, tonight, we'll be joined
by dozens of geek and nerd icons
from Tina, like
Adam Curry: LeVar Burton. Oh, I
mean, no, how come they don't do
love island for Harris, that
would people would watch that
Unknown: they would love Island
drunk.
Adam Curry: She does sound
drunk. No, what real Americans
are talking about is what's
happening in their cities. The
rents too high. That guy,
Where's the guy with the boot on
his head? That guy's so good was
that? No, that's a different
guy.
John C Dvorak: He's the
original. Rents too high. Guy's
dead, the free
Adam Curry: the guy with the
boot on his head is everyone
gets a pony. I like him. So
Chicago is in disarray. I mean,
there's, there's people who grew
up in Chicago and people sending
me sub stacks, and it, it's
just, it's horrible. What has
happened to this city, and now
we have the TDA. Was it? Trenda
Aragua, the Venezuelan gang, and
I believe this to be true. It
may be exaggerated here, but
they're coming in and the
Chicago gangs who have been
killing each other, you know, I
know 30 people a weekend.
They're like, Oh, what they do?
Hold on a second. You can't come
in here and take our turf. So
now we're going to see we had,
like the I think I heard Darren
say they had 37 people shot last
weekend. You didn't really hear
about it. Of course, of course,
course, not with three dead,
four dead, Darren said they're
doing great. It's moving ahead
just beautifully in Chicago.
He's in Chicago. So here's a
former gang member. So
Unknown: Venezuelan gang members
moving into Chicago have caught
the attention of the city's
local counterparts, bringing
tensions to an all time high.
Our next guest is a former gang
member who now runs a violence
prevention program and warns
that the city may go up in
flames, fearing an all out turf
war. Explain to us what's
happening on the ground. So
let me just say this, we just
heard about vice president who
says she She specialized in
locking up and arresting
transnational gangs, while the
very party that she's a part of
the policies with the sanctuary
cities and the border crisis she
support and now the influx of is
which is oxymoronic at the same
time. Now we have to fight
transnational games and the
influx of these men who we don't
know where they come, what
crimes they committed, and the
violence that they've been
involved with thus far. With
that being said, we're on the
front line every day making sure
that our communities are safe.
And it's really not about the
black community. This is just
the beginning, because violence
anywhere is violence everywhere.
America should be afraid that
this can happen in America's
cities, one of the biggest
cities, most tourists, one of
the biggest tourists, attracting
cities in the country, that we
can watch this happen all over
the country and not be outraged.
And this is the policies, sir,
this is what I'm saying,
Lawrence, it's the policies that
has affected our community and
has turned black people, black
communities, against the current
administration. You
know what? Tyrone? You hit it on
the head. That's right.
Adam Curry: Tyrone, oxymoronic
is probably the best show title
I've heard in a while. I've
John C Dvorak: read it, wrote it
down. It's so good, oxymoronic,
Adam Curry: but it's true. This
is what everybody's seeing. You
know, I just don't I want people
to calm down, stop watching your
social media feed. There's
nothing, nothing to be afraid of
here. And besides, we're not
going to vote our way out of the
mess we got out. We got a lot
more, lot more to do. It's not
just, not just who's president.
It won't help if Harris ever
became president, but it's not
going to happen, and she's so
lame she's not even showing up
to the Al Smith dinner.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was
pretty lame if you're a
Democrat, but I
Adam Curry: mean, the Al Smith
dinner is fantastic. Now, this
has been around for a long time,
and the best one I'd look I
don't. We didn't have any clips,
or at least I couldn't find
anything labeled. Is when Trump
and Clinton were both there, and
he was busting on her and she
was busting on him. And it was
funny, it was and of course, the
media is like, whoa. The Trump
is not funny. He's no good, and
now she's not even gonna show
up. Here's Cardinal Dolan. Why
is he an important piece of
this? Is it some kind of
religious dinner?
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
We're
Unknown: disappointed. We were
looking forward to giving the
vice president an enthusiastic
welcome, and we kind of, we were
confident that she would find
this you know, she speaks very
much about the high ideals and
how it's good to get away from
division and come together in
unity and all. That's what the L
Smith dinner is all about. We
haven't given up yet. We're not
used to this. We don't know how
to handle it. This hasn't
happened in 40 years, since
Walter Mondale turned down the
invitation, and remember, he
lost 49 out of 50 states. I
always say there's a direct
connection there, but so we're
not used to this, and we're not
giving up. You know, who's been
a help to us? Lauren is the
Senator Schumer and Governor
Hochul they're both. They both
are working hard to see that
they convince her to come still
a chance. Yeah, Senator Schumer
said to me, I he said, I don't
think she made the decision. I
think her schedule is saying she
can't make it, so we hope she's
here.
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, yeah.
Schedule. She doesn't do
anything, she doesn't have
interviews or do much of
anything, but her schedule has
interfered with this shirt.
Adam Curry: I thought that this
election cycle our fourth now in
the life of the show, I thought
it was going to be really sick
of it, but it's kind of taken an
interesting twist. This is,
they're all different. This is
very different because this is
not a serious candidate. She's
just not,
John C Dvorak: yeah, she does,
you know, in fact, she's lazy.
We've discussed this, yes and
yes. This is just too much work.
At some point she goes, I want
to go to this thing for
Adam Curry: if I don't want to,
I just, I can't talk, don't want
to do this. And you follow the
whole Janet Jackson thing that
was pretty funny.
Unknown: Yes, I did. She's not
black. Yeah, she
Adam Curry: not, she not black.
And the view, of course, had to
have a whole long conversation
about it. If you want to hear
that or not, you got that? Of
course, I got it. You want to
hear it first, let's play the
John C Dvorak: actually, we
should probably protest view
clips.
Unknown: Janet Jackson is not
backing down from the wild
statements she made about Kamala
Harris. She's not black. Jackson
told The Guardian newspaper, her
father's white. That's what I
was told. I was told that they
discovered her father was white.
Harris's father is black. He was
born in Jamaica, but Jackson
insisted on repeating the wacky
conspiracy theory first raised
by Donald Trump seven weeks ago.
I
didn't know she was black until
a number of years ago, when she
happened to turn black, and now
she wants to be known as Black.
Adam Curry: That's also not
true. The wacky conspiracy
theory came up years ago.
John C Dvorak: They came up
years ago, and that Trump clip
is out of context. Yes,
completely out of context.
Adam Curry: Anyway, here we go,
ladies and gentlemen, stand by,
because we're going to give you
a trigger warning
Unknown: at the tone a clip from
the view will be played shelter
in place.
Superstar Janet Jackson just did
a wide ranging interview with
British newspaper The Guardian.
But most of the focus is on when
she was asked her thoughts on VP
Kamala Harris possibly become
the first black female
president, she said she answered
by saying that she had heard
that Harris's father was white,
which we all know is false, and
a staffer claims that he was
fired for issuing an apology in
her name and that her team
certified he wasn't authorized
to speak on her behalf. Now
Jackson has not responded to
requests for comment. But no
matter how you feel about celebs
speaking out politically, you
know, is it okay to for somebody
to say, you know, I'm in you
know, I don't know, I made a
mistake?
Well, she hasn't said that. She
made a mistake. We don't know
what she said, because it's been
one thing and another. It's
Adam Curry: Anna Navarro. I
There's something dirty about
listening to the view, just you
feel just scuzzy, you know what?
I mean, just like this, like a
filth, dirt just comes over you
and like,
John C Dvorak: it's a creepy
show. Yes? Look, I
Unknown: think Janet Jackson,
like the
John C Dvorak: guests are all
creeps, yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, here's Anna
because, you know, they had a
whole conversation about this.
Unknown: Every other American,
whether you're a celebrity or
not, has a right to endorse,
support or not support whomever
they want. So she's got every
right to not like Kamala Harris
if she doesn't want to. But
that's not what she said. What
she doesn't know, what she did
was spread misinformation. Oh,
and I think it's very
irresponsible when you have a
platform the way Janet Jackson
does, platform to use that
platform.
Adam Curry: Janet Jackson
John C Dvorak: has a platform
does this, what is the name of
this platform? Janet
Adam Curry: social is the name
of her platform
Unknown: to spread
misinformation based on a racist
allegation by Donald Trump,
right? It was Donald Trump who
tried to say Kamala Harris just
turned black. So let's just go
through the 101 Kamala Harris
101 is the daughter of two
immigrants. Her mother is South
Asian from India. Her father is
black from Jamaica. Here is a
picture for all of you who need
or for Miss Jackson, if you're
nasty, you're the damage.
I feel like a picture of Kamala
also would have Kamala Harris
would have done the trick. But
Adam Curry: what's so great
about this is this, this
particular brand of gaslighting
is by looking at the nuance.
What it meant is meant by black.
You know, when we say black in
America, we typically mean ados,
American descent of slavery.
That's what Black is, and that's
what Barack Obama was not
Michelle Obama was is. She's got
other identity issues. So
they're really just, they're
really just, you know, cut
splitting hairs here over skin
color. This is the real racism.
John C Dvorak: Yep, this is,
this is, this is systemic
racism. On this show, the
Adam Curry: view is systemically
racist. Listen,
Unknown: we forget that we live
in information silos. This is so
different than how the media was
even 10 years ago, where people
largely got their news and their
information from legacy media,
where there was a level, what
Adam Curry: are you, lady? What
is legacy media compared to the
view your legacy media level
Unknown: of objectivity and a
fact check involved? So if you,
perhaps, for an example, get all
your news on Facebook, and you
lean right of center, that
algorithm is monetizing going to
tee up information that
reinforces your own beliefs. If
you're a Trump supporter online,
you very likely won't encounter
ever some of the worst things
that he has said. The same does
go for the left. I don't even
know the partisan breakdown of
what happened here, but my guess
is she's not looking at great
sources of media. And I say all
Adam Curry: this because, Janet
Jackson, you're watching the
wrong media.
Unknown: It's why I try to not
have judgment with Trump voters.
Instead, I try to engage them,
because I find people who are
highly educated, highly
successful that support him, but
they often don't know if some of
the biggest scandals are the
worst things that he said about
people or things that he's done.
And I think if you take the
judgment out and just kind of
get back to facts and trying to
persuade people, it helps,
Adam Curry: oh, because, you
know, really, it's the New World
Order. Who has determined this,
this
Unknown: is the number one most
severe warning in the short term
we have globally, misinformation
and disinformation. The World
Economic Forum said this is our
greatest
Adam Curry: the World Economic
Forum says it all well, must be
true, pump the brakes, risk
Unknown: in the next few years.
And it's not just this country.
It's everywhere. And a few
reasons you mentioned
John C Dvorak: misinformation
and disinformation, I like the
fact that they're discussing
this after years and years and
years as Sonny Hoskins saying
she was black, and it turns out
she's Spanish, and
Adam Curry: her ancestors were
slave owners. They were slave
owners. Oh, no, risk
Unknown: in the next few years.
And it's not just this country.
It's everywhere. And a few
reasons you mentioned that, you
know, you've got the algorithm,
but you also have internal
people like, you know, Donald
Trump, who ironically created or
coined the term fake news
willingly and on the daily, it
seems, perpetuating false
stories on purpose. But then you
also have foreign adversaries.
We recently learned of Russia
paying millions of dollars to
content creators doing this. Oh
boy. The big message here is
going back to like journalism.
Talk
Adam Curry: about your
misinformation, right there,
right there. Oh, well, Russia
was paying millions of dollars
to content creators. Now that's
not exactly what happened
creators
Unknown: to keep them doing
this. So the big message here is
going back to like journalism,
101 or just education, 101 which
is you never single source a
story when you're looking
anywhere in journalism, we're
always taught you have to back
it up in media. For as much
black as media gets, for being
leaning, we can get fired or in
trouble for not being able to
source where we got our story.
What
Adam Curry: this really is
about, What crap, well, aboot,
what this really is about, goes
back to Michael Jackson. And I
did not, I don't think I had got
the clip here, but when Michael
Jackson was being i. I believe,
based on my interactions with
Michael Jackson, he was asexual,
not a pedophile, for sure. Trump
came out because Trump knew him
pretty well, and Trump said, you
know, this is bull crap. He's
being railroaded. Oh, actually,
I have the clip here, and he's,
played with my kids, that he's
just, he's a guy who loves
children. He's a little child
like himself, but who was the
prosecutor, or maybe district
attorney at the time, who Kamala
Harris, ah, listen, like
Unknown: this can depend on the
testimony of the child accuser.
In general, the child will be
able to recall and recollect
with some detail the incident,
and that is persuasive to a
jury, even if it is the only
testimony that is available.
Jackson gave a wave when he
was released after booking. He's
scheduled for arraignment in
January.
Michael's been a long time
resident of Trump Tower last
night that Donald strongly
reiterated his defense of
Jackson with Larry King by going
after the accuser's mother.
She's had plenty of experience
at going after people, and she
goes after them viciously and
violently. And I saw a story,
and I read another story about
some of the things she's done,
and I don't believe it, but you
know
what it's like when indictment
comes down, it's tough, his
presumption, it's tough. It's
tough to win, but I have a
feeling he's going to win.
Larry, the interesting thing is,
I've known Michael from many
different standpoints, and
Michael would spend a lot of
time with my kids. I have
beautiful kids. And at the time,
like at Mar a Lago, and even in
Trump Tower, the kids were very
young, Michael would come play
with the kids. He just loved
children. He was not a child
molester.
Adam Curry: And so this is
what's really going on. This
John C Dvorak: is why flip
archive is unbelievable.
Adam Curry: This is why Janet
Jackson comes out and says, you
know, she's against Kamala
Harris, because she knows
exactly what Kamala Harris did
to Michael Jackson. It's amazing
that this comes back, isn't it,
John C Dvorak: and it's amazing
nobody else but you in this
case, because I sure didn't have
this picked up on this. This is
the kind of, kind of shallow
nature of the reporting we get
and analysis we get on
mainstream media and the view
and places like that. And
Adam Curry: with that, I'd like
to thank you for your courage
and say in the morning to you,
the man who put the sea in kudos
for Crowder. Say hello to my
friend on the other end, the one
only.
John C Dvorak: Mr. Morning to
you, Mr. Kraffi water, dames in
the air, and Dames in the air
and the nights and the dames out
there, yes,
Adam Curry: and we have a lot of
trolls.
I don't know what, what is
supposed to be good for a
Thursday, because I'm always
1800 Oh, we have 1992 at the
John C Dvorak: peak. All right.
All right, that's a peak. But
what's now?
Adam Curry: 1889 1898 1898
sounds right. Yeah, sounds
right. All right. We have a full
quorum. Hello, trolls. Good to
see you all here. I actually
gave the trolls crew kudos on
the new media show when I was
being into using you know, there
really making media show. The
new media show is Todd and Rob
in the afternoon.
John C Dvorak: Todd Rob in the
afternoon.
Adam Curry: Todd and Rob in the
afternoon. They're the
afternoons on the eighth,
they've been, they've been doing
that show for 18 years, or
something. No, that can't be
eight. They've been doing the
show for a long time. And then,
you know, Todd owns blueberry.
He's the he started one of the
first hosting companies,
blueberry. And Rob is he's
worked at every hosting company
in the world, and he also worked
at Microsoft on the Zune. He has
a his he has a very interesting
podcast career. So I talked
about the trolls. It's, well,
it's really the producers, but a
lot of the producers are trolls,
and they sit in our troll room
and and I think it's we were
leading 1516, years ago, when we
started by doing live shows. We
were, we were leading on this.
It's, it's the way the podcast
in the future will go. People
want to be a part of something.
So whether they're trolling, and
I might pick it up from time to
time, or they give us some
information, like JP Sears, you
know, it was the trolls are a
part of the show. That's what
differentiates us from radio.
Radio is like you can call in,
be called a 100 to win a t
shirt. Here, you're a part of
the show, man, you're part of
the show. And we do it twice a
week on Thursdays and Sundays,
and we're very happy to be here.
You can join the troll
room@trollroom.io you can listen
to the stream 24/7 right there,
and jump in and troll away. If
you want to mention
John C Dvorak: that Horowitz,
your protege. Also employs a
similar tactic. He does a troll
room, yes,
Adam Curry: and does he read
anything from the well, he calls
it the chat room. It's not
really a troll room, it's a chat
room over there, when you guys
do the show, but he's watching
what people say, right?
Unknown: Yeah, as far as I know,
yeah, well, I've
Adam Curry: taught him. Well,
Horowitz is good. He's a good
man. Love him. Good guy. Be
smart, has a future in this
game, as long as he sticks with
you. Because that's the secret.
We always got his own podcast
too. That's
John C Dvorak: pretty good.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the
disciplined investor, exactly he
had Scaramucci on the other day.
It's pretty funny.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I missed
that one. I was gonna catch it
too. Well, it's
Adam Curry: a podcast. You can
go back and find it in your
modern podcast app. Oh, I never
thought it. Yes, your modern
podcast app, which you can
find@podcastapps.com be updated
within 90 seconds of the
publishing of this show and many
other shows. Todd actually, on
the new media show yesterday,
was reading off some more
takedowns from Spotify. You
know, they'll take down
individual episodes even. Oh,
John C Dvorak: we find that the
weirdest thing.
Adam Curry: Oh, you know,
John C Dvorak: we don't like
what you said there in the five
minute mark. So we're killing
this one. I
Adam Curry: think we're at 1212
now you just threw out another W
word. Sorry. It's, it's on you.
John C Dvorak: I don't even know
I did that.
Adam Curry: It's, it's bad
enough that we're both at 1212
I'm usually pretty good at this,
John C Dvorak: but there's no
you would have stopped at at
four. Yeah,
Adam Curry: this double this W
word has got a it is. It's very
nasty. It's a nasty, nasty word.
So we live on value for value. I
just did a 13 minute piece for a
Dutch conference, podcasts,
knowledge conference,
John C Dvorak: yeah, is that all
about all about value for value?
No, it's
Adam Curry: all about
advertising and marketing. I
just said, you know, that's all
great, but it's censorship. You
really want to go value form of
Yes, of course it is. If you
just even not being able to talk
about a competing product. It's
yourself. That's
John C Dvorak: why you won't see
that woman, uh, Jillian,
whatever her last name is,
Adam Curry: she'll never, she'll
never be on Fox again once
you're talking down the Big
Pharma. No way. Yep, she
John C Dvorak: talked to she
bought, and it was not, it was
people should go back and think
if they have that thing on tape
and listen to her, she goes off.
Adam Curry: I mean, if, if we
actually had advertisers, we
wouldn't be able to talk about
black rice, any coffee. Wouldn't
be able to talk about any, any
resume services, or any or a
good, good idea supply. You
know, because this, we have bad
idea supply, none of that. We
wouldn't be able to do any of
that bad. It's a great store.
You know, we wouldn't be able to
talk about Kirkland as we'd be
advertising for
Unknown: Costco, Costco,
John C Dvorak: though, Where's
our money from Costco? Where's
Adam Curry: our Costco check?
Everybody, a lot of people
picked up on that tip of yours
anyway, instead, it's value for
value time, talent or treasure,
where we just give you the show.
The show is out there. It's on
the podcast. All of them are
still in the feed. You can go
back, listen anytime, do
anything you want. You can copy
it. In fact, we encourage that.
We encourage you to copy it.
Hand it to people, put it other
places. Just leave it intact, so
that we have the thank you
segment in there, so we can
thank our producers, and you can
help us with time talent or
treasure that would be a great
talent or time move by helping
promote the show. And a lot of
people do that. We have people
who we've never set up. And this
is another part of our of our
genius. We didn't know it at the
time, but you know, getting
websites up and running and
managing servers is very costly.
We don't have money for that.
We're not CNET. We don't have
free food. In fact, the
opposite, we don't have any any
Caboose with free food out
there. So instead, producers
have an obligation to work on
the show and help out, and that
one time when there's a topic
that is something that you know
about, you need to email us,
which is usually just me,
because it's hard to spell
Dvorak, and you say, Hey,
John C Dvorak: I have any
complaints?
Adam Curry: I Well, we just got
a note from one of our friends
about Boeing. You know, Boeing
just had the best and final
contract offer. Am I? Amongst
this strike, and one of our
producers, who works in the
business, I don't want to
disclose, says Boeing and
Washington State, California and
Oklahoma have let all of their
contract engineers go, and now
they hear them talking about
furloughing the direct employee
engineers for one week each
month to save cash flow the 737
Max, the failed space capsule,
fired Space Defense executive
and now a union mechanic strike.
I'm hearing from several buddies
at other aircrafts company or
aircraft companies. They're.
Calling me looking for a new
gig, as other companies related
to this now are preparing to cut
so Boeing is, I think they're
dead in the water. John, I
really think that, you know,
John C Dvorak: this is not dead
in the water, because our
government so, well, okay,
Adam Curry: well, someone's got
to take this over. This is, this
is, isn't this? Where's Elon?
Where's
John C Dvorak: Soros? No, Elon.
Adam Curry: Elon, yeah. Elon, he
could take it over. Yeah. He
could do it. Yeah. Well, the
space division, I know about
airplanes. I guess you could do
that. He could do it. Those
Chinese airplanes look pretty
good. Yeah, that's where it's
headed. I would fly them. I
don't think I'm not too worried
about the Chinese 737, knockoff.
It looks okay. You get an
airworthiness certificate. It's
good, yeah, best price.
John C Dvorak: I'm sure it's the
best price.
Adam Curry: We also have artists
who do a lot of prompt jockeying
these days, although I don't
think this one was a necessarily
an AI creation the now you can
see all of the artwork that is
submitted. No agenda. Art
generator.com. Another website
we didn't make another fine
example of value for value.
Thank you, sir. Paul couture,
nestworks came in for Episode
1697, we titled that Nido, Nido,
which is spelled lowercase, N,
E, A, T, dash O, Nido, and had
just this interesting collage, I
would say, of our AI segment
with a robot and the and the
notebook, LM, buckle up, and the
Walkman, which of course, was
the exploding Walkman within the
hizzy, which is about our, our
Oprah takeoff, even has John's
oasis in there. It was, it was
a, it was just a collage of
stuff with some graffiti type
lettering, which we liked, and
so we chosen, we appreciate the
work that nestworks did on that
one. I don't think it
John C Dvorak: had to be a if
there was any AI involved, it
had to be a hybrid. Yeah, it
could be hybrid. Yeah. You get
your main thing, and then you
jump on it, and you hit the
graphic, and then you add this
other stuff, and a lot of
otherwise, it's just, I don't
know what prompted you is to get
all those crazy things going on.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: well, a lot of,
well, it's only going to get
worse. You know, the more people
put I mean, I tried to do a logo
the other day, and it misspells
the words and it does
John C Dvorak: 13. Borowitz is
using it for the art, for a DH
unplugged,
Adam Curry: yeah, well, it'll
progress. It will get worse.
It'll get worse. It'll get
worse.
John C Dvorak: Might get worse,
Adam Curry: might get better.
Will it get it'll it might get
better. They
John C Dvorak: don't give you
one choice. You usually get four
choices every time you put a
prompt in, yeah. And then you or
more, depending on your system,
yeah, and, you know, then you
could massage it a couple of
times. I think sometimes it
takes longer to do it that way
than actually do
Adam Curry: that. I literally
had to ask five times. No spell,
no agenda. It'd be like, no
adjourn. You know, it couldn't
get no agenda, right? I don't
know why it was. It's very, very
uh, quotes, yes, yes,
unpredictable results. So we had
sir net Ned, who had a nice, a
hot take or two, nice piece of
art, but didn't
John C Dvorak: really we had one
piece we were going to comment
on which, well
Adam Curry: we liked the
stowaway by scaramango. We kind
of, it was between the yes we
did the art we chose. And
scaramangos Mouse, which was
very cute. There's a little
mouse there in the in the
broccoli and carrots. Uh, what
else there was, uh, hot takes
with two old Adam and John's,
which we're never going to
choose, that we're gonna like,
make ourselves look like old
white dudes.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we're
already old white dudes. Who
needs it? Seriously. What else
who needs the aggravation?
Adam Curry: Puffy's Bad Boy oil,
which was just Nico signed, was
too simple. Was too simple. I
don't remember what we're gonna
comment on other it had to be
the scare manga mouse. Yeah,
what was wrong with the scare?
It was, he was too cute.
John C Dvorak: No, it just
wasn't as interesting overall.
And it was a mouse and food,
and, yeah, it was kind of gross,
as you think about it. I think
there was just something
repulsive about the idea. I
Adam Curry: like Parker, Parker
Polly's P Diddy in the Epstein
suite. Very, very dark, very
dark humor. But thank you. Thank
you, artists. The people who do
the real work are Dutch masters,
and it shows every single time.
We can pick them right out, like
nestworks, right up there with
Ram Brandt and Van Gogh. This is
beautiful. No agenda, Art
Generator.
John C Dvorak: Much of this is
frameable. Oh, most of it is
frameable.
Adam Curry: I mean, it's just,
it's beautiful. Oh, you know, I
got a note. From, and
John C Dvorak: you can get by
the way you can go. When you
click on these, you can see
there's a huge version, there's
different sizes, and you can
click on the big, giant size,
download that, and you can print
it out. I want to frame it. I
want to
Adam Curry: remind everybody
that a lot of this art shows up
at no agenda shop.com, on T
shirts, hats, hoodies, koozies,
all kinds of wonderful products.
No agenda shop.com and I got a
note from one of our producers,
who was a millennial, and he
sent me a beautiful note he owns
and started with his wife, the
company, Opie way. Are you
familiar with this? No, o, p, i,
e, way.com, Opie way.com, makes
handcrafted sneakers from suede
and leather, and a very
beautiful high end product,
really, yeah, take a look at it.
Op, way calm. And he's been,
he's in, you know, in, O, P, A,
O, P, I, E, W, A, y, O, P, way,
op, way.com, and, yes, nice
product, very nice. Oh yeah,
these are fancy looking. Yeah,
fancy looking. The other kind
you can wear under your suit if
you go to the Academy Awards and
you're a hipster. And he says,
you know, you guys have kept us
sane while we were building this
company. I just want you to know
there's some millennials who are
grinding away, and this is
grinding away for sure, yeah.
And he says, you know, and your
show has really helped us, and
we appreciate it, and it's named
after that kid. They have two
young two young kids. One is
named Opie, the other one's
named way I forget that right?
No, forget that name. And he
says, Is it okay if we make a no
agenda sneaker. I said
absolutely. You know, same
parameters as the shop. Don't
put our faces on it, but you can
use
John C Dvorak: it. You know,
funny if you put no agenda on
the side of one of these
sneakers, because he's, he's
does a demo on this on his
website here with a Nike logo.
And if you, if that was no
agenda stylized on the side, and
you wore these sneakers around,
no, it would not necessarily be
associated with this show. It
would just be kind of a cool,
yeah, very it's a cool,
Adam Curry: cool sneaker. Yeah,
I said, you know, do the same as
the shop, like you do whatever
you do. You be you boo, and send
us a donation from time to time.
If it works out, we don't want
any shoes that wouldn't hurt.
Well, you sound like, Tina,
she's like, Hey, I want some
sneakers. He
Unknown: wasn't offering
Adam Curry: sneakers to you, but
I want some sneak you don't even
wear sneakers. Well, wear these.
These are beautiful, anyway. So
just another way that time towns
and treasure fits into our
entire system here, and this is
the moment in the show we like
to thank our executive and
Associate Executive producers.
Lots of people donate to the
show. You can donate in any
amount you want, as often as you
want, however you want to do it.
Some people haven't donated in
10 years, and they say, oh, you
know, it's about time for me to
do something here, which is all
fine, it's all good. It's value
for value, whatever value you
get out of the show. We just ask
you to send it back to us.
That's all. It's that simple, by
the way, did I hear you had a
one hour conversation with Steve
Gibson about newsletter
software? Yeah, I did, as a
matter of fact, yeah, everyone
knows about this.
John C Dvorak: Well, he was he
doing talking about it. Talked
about it with Leo. Oh,
Adam Curry: so did you learn
anything? Yeah, well, a little
bit, yeah, are we? Are you going
to switch up and use something,
some different program? What are
you gonna do? We
John C Dvorak: talked about this
on the show already. A little
bit. You poo pooed the idea. And
I said, I'm gonna go ahead.
Anyway. Okay. No, he has, he
has, it's, you know, he's not a
come. He's not doing his
newsletter The way we do ours.
Ours are, ours are a specific
type of newsletter that he
doesn't do. And so I'm not sure
about the effectiveness. But
yes, we had a long chat about
that and other gossipy things,
which he didn't obviously
mentioned. Oh, gosh, we're
definitely insightful.
Adam Curry: Oh, you tell me
after the show you share.
Unknown: Come on. Oh, I
Adam Curry: can't let's hurry
up. Let's get to the end of the
show. I can't wait. So we always
want to thank everybody who
supports us. You can do
sustaining donations, which is
any amount, any frequency, you
can set that up at no agenda
donations.com. Again, no agenda
donations.com. One more time,
that's no agenda donations.com.
Three times, and you remember it
for the rest of your life.
John C Dvorak: What was it?
Adam Curry: No agenda
donations.com. Four times they
forget it. But we not just thank
people. We hand out credits for
production of this show and the
way it works in Hollywood, if
you pay money for the
production, you get a producer
credit, in this case, $200 or
above, we read your note and you
get an Associate Executive
producer credit. $300 and above,
we read your note and you get an
executive producer credit, and
we kick it off today. Mind
blown, sir. Pursuit of peace and
tranquil. Ability from Midland,
Georgia comes in with the
rubbilizer donation of $3,333.33
Unknown: Mike standby, 3333
Adam Curry: 33 rubbleizer out
and he sent a notes with this
donation handwritten. And he
says, in the morning, boys, I am
donating 333333, to mark my one
year anniversary for donating to
the show monthly. Wow, we must
be very valuable to him. Plus,
he says, I'm tired of seeing
that sad puppy every week.
Helpful. Hopefully this helps.
What does this week? On a recent
camping trip in the BWCA, I hid
a good friend, liberal Paul from
Ohio, in the mouth, and would
appreciate it if you'd call him
out as a douchebag, as a good
friend, he will appreciate it.
Bet they will love the show and
appreciate your deconstruction
of the media based on the
attached accounting. Please
grant me the title of Earl
sincerely sir, pursuit of peace
and tranquility in the lands of
red clay and cherry trees, and
you are on the list, sir. Thank
you very much for your support
of the no agenda show.
John C Dvorak: Yes. Thanks a
lot. And whilst staying in the
south, we go to Alabama, so
Leighton in Dothan, Dothan dot
and Dothan 533, 33 which is no
slouch of a donation, that's a
Commodore Commodore, yes, is our
Commodore promotion. Uh,
Thursday night we are heading or
writing out a hurricane Helene
here in southeast Alabama. And
so it's a great time to donate
and Listen Live, really. I mean,
you might not be able to listen
live and pray and request
prayers for those affected, as
always. Love the show. They get
a lot of wind. They do have a
windy one. Yes, love the show
and look forward to each
episode. So sir Layton,
Adam Curry: I haven't had time
to look into it, but a lot of
people are telling me the
weather charts are showing
something different than what
they believe is happening
John C Dvorak: that that this
show, please elaborate that
they're showing
Adam Curry: this as being a very
severe storm when they believe
it is not. I've seen video that
looks pretty windy to me, so I'm
not sure. I haven't had
John C Dvorak: interstates.
They're supposed to be
sustaining at about 65 miles an
hour with gusts up to 90,
Adam Curry: which is, is that a
cat one
John C Dvorak: it's in that air
or area, it's not gonna I mean,
once it hits the land, it just
falls apart. Falls apart.
Adam Curry: Yeah, all right.
Well, of course, of course.
Prayer request. Prayer flare
received, sir layron, John G and
Deerfield Beach, Florida, 525, a
Commodore for him, he says,
Commodore donation got it also.
Producers, are you dehydrated?
Producers, are you dehydrated?
Oh, I am. I'm parched. Check out
this great iPhone and Apple
Watch app. It's called P water
tracker replacement. No water
tracking. Just tap a button when
you pee to track your hydration.
People love it. Not a joke. All
right, I don't have an Apple
Watch, but comics, your blogger,
I'm sure, will let me know how
well it works. He's all in on
the Apple ecosystem. Thank you,
John. We'll see you at the
Commodore commodoring,
Commodore, yes, as a Commodore,
if
John C Dvorak: I count silver,
due to the silver dolphins in
Eldersburg, Maryland, comes in
with 500 I knew it had been a
full year since my last
donation. I had been feeling
guilty about that with all of
the sad puppies going around,
I've been job. The sad puppy has
long term effect. I guess. Yes,
I've been jobless as of late. My
choice. I'm on a steady break
for the CISSP certification.
What
Adam Curry: is that? What is
CISSP?
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Look it up. I will, so the funds
don't go as far as they used to.
However, I just saw John's
latest newsletter announcing the
no agenda Commodore promotion,
and I knew this was the moment
to end my douchebaggery. So
here's five Benji's to keep the
train of rolling and hopefully
move to come and more to come
before another year passes. It
also happens that my little my
title changes from vicount to
Earl, and there's another Earl
with this donation to all the
other producers and trolls.
Let's end the year stronger than
we found it no jingles, but some
lovely goat karma to my brother
battling a series of health
issues. Soon to be Earl silver,
silver due to the silver
dolphins. No agenda, Commodore,
US and US Navy, retired bassist
cyber strike
Adam Curry: and CISSP is
Certified Information System
Security Professional.
John C Dvorak: That's a job that
lasts for life. That
Adam Curry: is a good job.
Here's your goat man. Thank you
very much. You've
Unknown: got karma.
Adam Curry: And Sir Daniels
checks in at no agenda
donations.com he's the Knight of
the Lake Highlands in Dallas,
Texas, 500 Dollars. He says,
Commodore Coleman, Commodore of
Coleman County, Knight of Lake
Highlands and Duke of the
Republic of Texas. That's all we
need to know. You're on the
list. Thank you. You will be
receiving your Commodore ship.
John C Dvorak: Go to Pittsburgh,
Pennsylvania for Sir David
French, who comes to the 500
bucks Commodore level. Please
keep up the good work. Great
work, John and Adam Sir David
French, Baron of bits and bytes
in bourbon. Baron
Adam Curry: Marky Mark is in
vaidyness, that's in the
Netherlands 500 The show has
been a constant in my life for
almost 17 years now. Thanks for
the value guys. Keep it up.
Baron Marky Mark from uster lake
in the Netherlands, Commodore
ship for you.
John C Dvorak: I find it
interesting that somebody could
listen to those early shows and
still be listening. Eric r5 100,
I would like to be Commodore 64
or if that's taken, no, we can
be, you know, we can have a lot
of Commodore 64 is, if anybody
wants that, if that's taking
Commodore Amiga, of
Adam Curry: course, that's no
problem, and we'll put it on the
certificate, right,
John C Dvorak: if that's what
they want, sure. Ron
Adam Curry: mills in Florence,
South Carolina, 500 you may call
me Commodore Ronbo, King of the
pugs. Love the show. Very happy
to donate to the cause. There's
Ron mills. Thank
Unknown: you. Ron king of the
pugs, yeah,
Adam Curry: it's good, man. It's
good. He's good.
John C Dvorak: Steven McConnell
comes in from Cortland, Ohio,
500 another Commodore, but says
no note.
Adam Curry: Then he gets a
double up donation. You've
Unknown: got karma
Adam Curry: do the one in the
troll room says he's been here
since show number three. All
right. Do the one you do it boy,
sir hair wheel hair heel, sorry,
sir hair heel. White Salmon,
Washington. He dips down to 333,
dot 33 says, Thank you for your
courage. Can I have some jobs
and F cancer karma, please? Of
course, you can
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
John C Dvorak: Okay, we got our
first switcheroo. And by the
way, a Commodore ship would be a
great gift Walker Campbell in
Fleetwood, North Carolina. 333,
switcheroo. This birthday
donation is on behalf of our
brother who punched us in the
mouth over five years ago. We
can't thank you. Enough,
crackpot and Buzzkill. What's
Adam Curry: his brother's name?
John C Dvorak: Now here doesn't
say, oh boy, Walter Campbell's
brother, Walter, now you now, if
you're ever in Southern Vermont,
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blessings from our angels,
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Adam Curry: Big E, Hondo energy,
beautiful. Thank you. Walter. Do
John C Dvorak: to be a plug for
the restroom.
Adam Curry: Sure seems that way.
Duke of Switzerland, sir Sander
from zandam, who doesn't know
him, he says, can you make this
a triple make it rain. Donation.
Oh, still in love with Bambi,
Raven and the other girl we see.
I didn't expect that we have
Bambi. Was there another girl? I
don't think there was another
girl at Club 33 was there?
John C Dvorak: I don't remember.
I mean, probably,
Adam Curry: um, let me see Bambi
Raven. Oh, well, we had no Raven
from Reseda and Bambi No. So I
can only do two. I only can do
two. Keep on producing. Best
podcasting university or Duke of
Switzerland, sir Sander from
zandam, up
Unknown: next, Bambi. Bambi onto
the stage. Give it up.
Adam Curry: Raven, some classic
stuff there.
John C Dvorak: All right, Matt
Bernier in Manassas Virginia
comes in. He's a first executive
producer, 280 201. Associate,
Executive Associate. I'm sorry
the show has been a big
contributor to my sanity as I
navigate it is a long note by.
Of the way as I navigate the
fallen world while trying to
remain hopeful and cheerful joy.
This donation is for your
courage and commitment to truth
over neutrality, truth over
neutral. That's interesting. I
like, yeah, we're committed to
truth over neutrality. That's
Adam Curry: a bumper sticker.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think so.
And to offset the haters trying
to call you out as having an
agenda which, even if true good,
the pursuit of what is right and
true. Trump's a podcast title
all day long. Thanks for doing
the work. Okay, perhaps the only
thing worse than the leftist
noodle boy is the modern man who
ignores all, ignores all
glowing, glowing, glaring
evidence while chasing some
lofty and unattainable goal of
complete and utter neutrality, I
don't think anybody does that,
usually accompanied by a claim
of I'm not political, or I'm not