October 13th, 2024 • 3h 6m
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John C Dvorak: No, no, no, Mom,
no, no, no, no, you don't no,
no, no.
Unknown: Adam curry. John C
Dvorak, Sunday,
Adam Curry: October 13, 2024, in
this your award winning kimono
nation. Media assassination.
Episode 1703,
Unknown: this is no agenda, with
Adam Curry: boots on the ground
everywhere and broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas home
country, here in FEMA Region,
number six in the morning.
Everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're
awaiting the Argentinian gangs.
I'm John C,
Adam Curry: D, the Venezuelan
Argentinians.
John C Dvorak: Oh, I said
Argentinian
Adam Curry: Aragua.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, we might as
well just submit to it. There's
nothing we can do. It's the
fifth time we've been through
it. The news is all that's, all
that it is, is all everybody's
going crazy. Everybody's going
crazy because it's a very tight
race. It's so close, so close. I
John C Dvorak: have the race run
down here. As you said, you
brought it up. I think I can
intro with this.
Unknown: Oh, hold on a sec.
John C Dvorak: This is the, I
think is Trump Harris
Adam Curry: campaign rap.
John C Dvorak: The campaign rep
from NPR sounds right. Former
Unknown: President Trump is on
the campaign trail along the
west coast today. He started
with the Hispanic roundtable on
Las Vegas.
We have far more people, far
more support than the other
side. And the really the term
Make America Great Again, we are
the party of wanting to make
America great again right now we
have a country that's a nation
in decline,
and he holds a rally in Southern
California's Coachella Valley at
this hour. Meanwhile, Vice
President Harris is campaigning
in North Carolina this weekend.
She's in Raleigh tonight and
holds a rally in Greenville
tomorrow, also today. Her
campaign released her medical
report. Her doctor says she's in
excellent health and has the
physical and mental resiliency
to serve. Her campaign is
drawing a line between the 59
year old and 78 year old. Trump,
the oldest candidate to run for
the White House and former
President Bill Clinton, is
hitting the campaign trail for
Harris this weekend. Pierce Asma
Khalid reports he will be
traveling through rural counties
in the south.
The former president, who
himself is from the south,
intends to campaign in rural
Georgia this weekend. His
planning stops Sunday and
Monday, ahead of in person early
voting, which begins in the
state on Tuesday, prior to Biden
in 2020 the last time a Democrat
won Georgia was Clinton in 1992
later in the week, the former
President will travel to eastern
North Carolina again with the
goal of reaching rural voters.
This on the heels of former
President Barack Obama, who is
also on a campaign blitz for
Harris in this final stretch of
the campaign. Both are aiming,
in part, to boost support for
Harris among men. Polls show the
race between Harris and former
President Donald Trump remains
incredibly tight.
Adam Curry: She's very breathy
in that report. So in the in the
information from the Brits, in
the infamous words of notebook.
LM, let's take a deep dive into
this. Let's unpack this. Let's
see what's going on. Because the
big news that was is flooding
the socials was Obama talking
down to the black men.
John C Dvorak: The Harris
campaign is clearly worried
about her standing with young
black men, and they're sending
Barack Obama out these final of
three plus weeks to try to reach
them. Here he is in Pittsburgh.
Unknown: You're coming up with
all kinds of reasons and
excuses. I'm speaking to men
directly. Part of it makes me
think that, well, you just
aren't feeling the idea of
having a woman as president
John C Dvorak: Lulu Harris is
leading among black men and
Latino men, but not near
Adam Curry: just this is an
affectation that I'm noticing,
and it may just be age, but
Obama has the same thing that
Howard Stern has the voice no
longer has the power. Do you
know what I mean is
John C Dvorak: Mike poorly
listen and echoey room, which I,
you know, I had that clip, but
it's so echoey. It was, your
version was a little better when
I had,
Adam Curry: well, this is, this
was, I mean, there's, there's
more to it, because this is the
Chris Wallace show on
John C Dvorak: CIA, probably
with their best, they probably
couldn't use much of it either.
It was terrible. No, it
Adam Curry: was. It was very
bad. Lulu
John C Dvorak: Harris is leading
among black men and Latino men,
but not nearly by the same
margins that Biden enjoyed in
2020 so in other words, Dad
Unknown: Obama, right there.
It's him sort of adopting that
tone of scolding and saying,
Hey, man, why aren't you?
Actually backing women. I don't
know that that was the best
tactic. I'll be honest with you,
it's not. It's not, it's not
really persuading people. At the
end of the day, she has a
problem with men. There is a
huge gender gap, though, in this
election, this is as it's had,
as it's been dubbed the gender
election. And I think if I
Adam Curry: have you heard this
being dubbed the gender
election? I've
John C Dvorak: never heard that
until this clip. Is fake news.
Lulu is a
Unknown: huge gender gap,
though, in this election, this
is as it's had, as it's been
dubbed the gender election. And
I think if I were Kamala Harris,
I'd rather have women than men.
The kinds of men that Trump has,
irregular voters, they're low
propensity voters.
Adam Curry: Hold on, hold on.
Irregular voters and low
propensity. What is? What does
that mean? Low propensity,
John C Dvorak: that means they
don't get out and vote. Oh,
okay, but
Adam Curry: so the oh, well,
that's kind of interesting. Then
it sounded like a slur, but now
that you explained that it just
Okay, sounds like it's probably
true. Donald
Unknown: Trump has are irregular
voters. They're low propensity
voters. The kinds of people that
Kamala Harris has are
enthusiastic voters, black
women, suburban women, these are
the older women. These are the
people that turn out and so in
this kind of divided election
among gender lines, I think
you'd rather have one than the
other.
Adam Curry: I think I found one
of those irregular, low
propensity voters, because they
were all over my timelines. This
guy, I think, is from Chicago.
Unknown: What you thought you
was doing, Barack Obama, boy,
you didn't step out there. All
you did was piss black men off,
bro. All you did was piss black
men off. Why y'all think the
American people? Why y'all think
the Democrat Party owned black
folk? The Democrat Party don't
own black folks, bro. What you
thought you was doing with that,
we see the play. We know we see
the play. Kamala Harris is
losing. She's not going to win.
So you done stepped on out.
Yeah. You know black people if
you're voting for Donald Trump
and not Kamala Harris. This.
This is unacceptable, man. This
what I gotta say to you, one,
two, Trump is coming for you.
Three, four, you won't win. No
more. Five, six, the election
was fixed. Seven, eight, y'all
made a mistake. 910, Trump is
coming again. 910, Trump is
coming again. I said, What in
the world of
Adam Curry: this man was one of
my favorite, low propensity
voters.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a
lot of clips like that floating
around, yeah,
Adam Curry: but I like that one
the most. That guy's a good one.
That guy's good. And then, of
course, NPR had to, the only
thing they could do is just, is
just lay it out what Trump is
talking about.
Unknown: Trump campaigned in
Reno, Nevada last night, one of
the swing states that may decide
the election next month. He
claimed he's attracting the
support of black men. My numbers
with the black and especially
black men. I love black men. I
love them. I have gone through
the roof with black men, black
men, black men. I don't do quite
as well with black women. I
must say, Trump is to appear
this afternoon near Las Vegas.
Adam Curry: No humor, no humor
on NPR. Trump is later. I
Unknown: don't do quite as well
with black women. I must say
Trump
is to appear this afternoon near
Las Vegas, and an event billed
as an Hispanic round
table. Oh, no, he's
Adam Curry: going off to the
brown man now. Oh,
Unknown: so I have Yes, yeah,
well, I
Adam Curry: was going to say
that the big thing now is
because Elon Musk said it will
happen. Is Trump? Will he go on
Rogan? Will Trump go on Rogan?
This will decide the election.
If Trump will go on Rogan, Trump
on Rogan. This is whatever
people are emailing me. Oh, man.
Oh no,
John C Dvorak: he's got to know
what to tell you, to tell Joe,
to tell whatever. Yes,
Adam Curry: I need to talk to
Joe to make sure that Joe
doesn't, doesn't go, you know,
doesn't try to pull him apart,
doesn't try to strongman him
like he did with the moon
landing guy. Oh no, that would
be horrible. Trump could lose
please. I'm like, and just
before you, because I know you
have a clip lined up. What's her
face? Kara Swisher, who's also
on that Chris Wallace show.
Well, no, she has some good
advice for Kamala. Well, I
Unknown: think she's got to keep
doing it. I think not enough and
repetitions. Everyone does know
Donald Trump, and he fills up
every space that he can, whether
it's with toxic stuff. Of talks,
louder, meandering. It doesn't
really matter. He just fills up
all the space. And so she has to
do more and more. I think that
she's going on Charlemagne, the
god is critically important.
That was a great that's a great
booking for her. And he's, you
know, he has a base on real
fans. I think she should go on
Joe Rogan. I think she should go
on Fox News. I think she should
go to every local station and
just make herself inevitable,
where she makes mistakes, and
it's okay to make mistakes, but
the fewer she does, the few, the
more mistakes seem glaring. Oh,
Kara, are
Adam Curry: you tone deaf?
Unknown: She's
John C Dvorak: boy. You do not
want your advisory committee.
Adam Curry: Oh, you do not want
Kamala going on, on, Rogan.
John C Dvorak: I There's so I
have a I have two Trump clips
from Coachella, yes, yeah, this,
he must have pulled in 100,000
people, you know,
Adam Curry: I had we had dinner.
Two friends were happened to be
in Austin last night. I had
pizza with him, and they were
recently in Los Angeles, they
were on pch, and he was telling
me that there's Trump trains
going all up and down the
Pacific Coast Highway. Says it's
there's a lot, he says, even
more than Texas, people are
waving flags, and they've got
their houses completely all
trumped out, which is
interesting, because, you know,
when it comes to the Electoral
College, there's pretty much no
win in California. No, this is,
John C Dvorak: it's impossible,
but this is so the same in
Washington. Mimi. Mimi told me a
similar story. She says, up
there she went to a meeting and
a local nearby town for some,
some event, some, some book
writer, and it was filled with a
bunch of these Trump supporters,
and they have taken it upon
themselves to do what they do
like in Florida, where they have
all their pickup trucks and they
load them up with Trump signs
and flags, yeah, Trump train,
and they go all over the place.
And it turns out that they annoy
they get these Democrats that
come running up to him,
screaming and going ballistic,
such an extreme that they're
making it a weekly thing. They
do it because it's so much fun
to get all these people
aggravated. And
Adam Curry: then what they do
is, then, when they come up to
their trucks and they're all
angry, then they roll the coal
on them with the big 250 diesel,
the big black cloud, of course,
smoke comes out, but, but what
just, but what is the strategy
here, other than just trying to
rattle Kamala or because it
seems pretty impossible for, you
know, to get the Electoral
College votes you need, no
matter how many people in
California would be, would be
voting for Trump? It just seems
like an honest
John C Dvorak: winner take all
states. So that's,
Adam Curry: oh, wow. So he's
going all out. Then he's,
John C Dvorak: he thinks he can
at least get enough popular vote
to make it interesting. Well,
Adam Curry: California was red
during Reagan. I mean, it was,
John C Dvorak: we had other
Republicans running the place,
and so it's not like totally
impossible, but the but, you
know, the system underneath the
underlying system, the
educational system, the
universities and all the rest
have been propagandizing so well
that
Adam Curry: they can maybe,
maybe we're at a tipping point.
Yeah, sure, tipping point. Hey,
um, you know what? I'm just
gonna call it tipping point this
election, California flips red.
John C Dvorak: So I have two
Trump clips from Coachella, and
I have to apologize in advance.
And believe me, I tried,
Adam Curry: oh, you tried to
make it sound good, or
John C Dvorak: there's a, there
is a ground loop in here, and
I'm apologizing profusely,
because this is the kind of
thing that you specifically it
drives you nuts.
Adam Curry: Now, is this
something that was in the Trump
audio, or it was in the Trump
audio? Oh god. I
John C Dvorak: tried getting it
out using Adobe. They couldn't
do it. I tried getting it out
using filters. Wouldn't work.
Just screwed it up more.
Adam Curry: Okay. So what you
are just saying is, Adam, don't
go all crazy about it. So
John C Dvorak: Adam, don't go
all crazy about this Gotcha. But
I just, I have these two clips,
and we don't want to play them
both. We had to definitely play
the first one, which is the fat
pig one. And I'll preface it by
saying these are, like, I think,
new bits that Trump has
incorporated. Okay, well, he
needed new material, yeah. Well,
this is just he, you know, he's
been so reluctant to be
insulting ever since they took a
shot at him that he's gone about
it now in a kind of a roundabout
way of being insulting. And, you
know, he just enjoys it, and the
crowd loves it. You know, they
just loved it. I don't know what
it is, but he does insult. He's
like an insult comic. Well,
Adam Curry: it's it. I think
it's very logical, because,
first of all, America used to be
funny. We lost, we lost our
funny decades ago, during Obama,
we basically lost our funny and
and it just kind of reminds
people that we're Americans and
that we that we know that
America F Yeah. You know, like
Team America. I it's, it's
something, I think it's
something very deeply ingrained
in the American psyche.
John C Dvorak: Well, not in
everybody, because there's a lot
of people finding this
offensive. I think it's
hilarious personally, well, but
this is he's part of the
species, talking away, yak, yak,
yak. And somebody makes yells,
Willie Brown in the background,
some insult. Okay? And so then
Trump goes off on that, and then
he goes into the tangent. And I
think, except for the buzzing, I
think that this is his new way
of doing insults, which is Biden
doing the opposite, saying, I'm
not going to do this. And then
he goes ahead and does it.
Unknown: Your children are in
danger. They can't go to school
with these people. These people
are from a different planet.
Kamala is turning us into a
third world nation. That's what
happened in San Francisco when
she was the DA of San Francisco,
the things she did, she started
that whole decline with our
victory. He says Willie Brown,
who said that? Who's Who's the
guy? What? Stand up. This can
only happen in California. Yes,
I didn't say it. Remember that?
He said it, he said it, he said
it. Do you remember when a man,
we're talking about this guy,
Chris Christie, went off the
reservation, right? We have some
people and some guy Shouts out
to me, he's a fat pig, sir.
Nobody heard it but me, you
know. But it was silly. Said it,
sir. You should not call chris
Christie a fat pig, please. He
is not a fat pig. You shouldn't
be a very rude, so we're gonna
have to throw you out if you do
it again. He is not a fat pig.
And you know what the process,
and that's they couldn't even
report this because I was
defending because you're not
allowed to use the word fat. You
can use any word you can't use.
You cannot call somebody fat.
That's not allowed anymore. You
know, you lose your job, you
lose your life with our victory,
will we are going to become and
quickly the greatest, strongest,
freest, safest and most powerful
nation the world has ever seen.
And on day one, I will close the
border, and I will stop the
invasion of illegal criminals
coming into our country, and
despite all of the damage that
she has done to this state and
to our nation in the past four
years, she's the worst. Oh,
she's terrible. He's terrible.
Adam Curry: You know, you should
lose your nickname, buzzkill,
because you couldn't kill the
buzz. I
John C Dvorak: couldn't kill
that buzz. No. But so he goes on
about this fat pig thing. And I
just thought it was just genius.
He's
Adam Curry: also doing a lot of
self deprecating humor about,
you know, oh, if I was in a
bathing suit with this beautiful
body,
John C Dvorak: there's Oh, yeah,
no. He has a lot of bed about
fire sleeping on the beach.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And he
talks about the bathing suit,
and how does he, you know, with
the paparazzi and all the rest,
he goes on and on. He the other
one, which we don't have to play
because the buzzing is even
bothers me. He goes off on
shift, you know, he said, I'll
just summarize it. He goes, he
says, you know, you can't say,
you can't really say bad things
about people's appearance, and
I'm never going to do that. He
says, I'm not going to talk
about shift. You know, he's got
the smallest neck in the world.
And he goes on and on right
away, yeah,
Adam Curry: oh, man. Well, by
the way, I noticed that Dennis
Quaid was at the Coachella
appearance with Randy. Oh, I
missed that, but wasn't it? I
thought, though the brothers had
a huge break during Obama, or
no, no, when Trump was running
against Hillary, if I recall, is
like, you know, didn't Dennis
Quaid completely shun his
brother?
John C Dvorak: It's possible.
But right now, ever since Dennis
Quaid played Reagan, right,
right, right, the him and but
him and Randy were both there,
yeah? Along with a lot of other
celebrities from Hollywood and
elsewhere, it was a pretty
interesting event, except for
the buzzing, yeah,
Adam Curry: Dennis Quaid, I saw
him interviewed on, what was he
interviewed on? It was Tucker.
He was radically saved in AA, I
think, yeah, he's a Christian.
So he's a real problem. Now,
he'll never work again.
John C Dvorak: He'll never work
again.
Adam Curry: Never Work Again.
So, speaking of that, so Bill
Maher, I guess, you know,
besides the black men, oh, now
we're worried about the
Christians. You know, I mean,
excuse me, Christian
nationalists. Bill Maher hired
that guy on Tim, Alberta. He's
the guy that, I guess he his dad
was a pastor, and then he left
the church and has been writing
the books about how dangerous
they all are. And it's all, ooh,
we can't have any of this. And
it. Was interesting, because in
the middle of this interview,
this just this big lie, which
was really, I mean, does this
guy have a different Bible than
me? Evangelicals must see a
bigger picture that than we see
in Donald Trump. What is that?
Look? I
Unknown: think Bill. No,
Adam Curry: you gotta go. Oh,
look, I think Bill. Look, I
think I'm gonna try that on you.
Look, I think John, let me just
tell you, Look, we see and look
Unknown: that. Look, I think,
Bill, there is a persecution
complex at work here that may
seem silly and overblown to a
lot of people from the outside
looking in, right, but for folks
inside the church, who believe
that the country is slipping
away from them, that they no
longer recognize the Christian
America of their youth, and they
believe that Donald Trump is an
imperfect vessel for God's
perfect will. And they look at
him and say, well, the
barbarians are at the gates.
Maybe we need a barbarian to
protect us. And I think in many
ways, there's almost a mercenary
relationship here where Donald
Trump's bad behavior almost
reinforces their support,
because they look at him and
say, Well, no good Christian man
is capable of protecting us in
the way that he is right. And so
in a way, it almost liberates
him to behave badly and to say
whatever he wants and
John C Dvorak: hold on a second.
Why was he behaving badly?
Because he's calling chris
Christie a fat pig. Yes, that's
Adam Curry: very, very unholy. I
don't know he's just he's
behaving badly.
John C Dvorak: I keep you hear
stuff like this. There was, I
have a couple of clips coming
up, and it's the same thing
where they just throw this stuff
out there, and it's just like,
what do you what are you
referring to? What specifically
is he doing? It's
Adam Curry: just one now. It's
just one of those generally
accepted things. Well, Trump is
just, you know, you know, the
whole rundown race. I
John C Dvorak: had a friend, a
friend of mine, call me. They're
talking about how I don't know
how they can support Trump,
because he's lying all the time.
I said, What are you talking
about? Well, he said that Jamie
Dimon supporting him, and Jamie
Dimon came out and said he
wasn't supporting him. So that's
somehow and even though that
could not be, interestingly
enough, Jamie Dimon could be
supporting him. You know, he
could have said something to
Trump, and Trump assumed he was
a supporting Well,
Adam Curry: Trump is, you know,
there's rumors that he wants him
to be the Fed chair or Secretary
of the Treasury.
John C Dvorak: So it's possible
that, you know, it's just, you
know, one these are, aren't the
kind of lies that are important
if it's even a lie. This is like
the 30,000 lies that they were
documented with during Trump
being in office, and half of
them were, Trump said 15 when
the number was 16. Oh, he's a
liar. He said 15 when it's 16.
You know, he's just this kind of
these, and they just accept it
as a norm, and to say that he's
behaving badly. What
specifically, I have a couple
clips coming up that I'm going,
it's the same thing. They just
throw this thing in. They never
document it. They never did.
Just say it
Adam Curry: well, so what, what
got my attention on this is some
persecution complex. And
therefore the Christians are
like, well, we can just bring
the devil in. That's no we can
just bring in Satan to beat down
Satan, or some it's the logic
escapes me of what he's saying,
because
Unknown: they look at him and
say, Well, no good Christian man
is capable of protecting us in
the way that he is right. And
so, in a way, it almost
liberates him to behave badly
and to say whatever he wants.
And sort of just creates this,
this ongoing relationship where
whatever he says and does, his
support remains that he's
Adam Curry: okay. So then, so
then this guy's thumbing through
his Bible. Was like, Oh, I got
one. I know. I know. I know who
he is. He's the badass
gunfighter who becomes they give
him the badge, yeah, to be the
sheriff, even they know who he
is, or he's Cyrus. I've heard
that Cyrus. You explain that one
to us who is Cyrus in the Bible?
Yeah,
Unknown: Cyrus is the Old
Testament Persian king who
allows the Jews to go back and
rebuild the temple, right? And
the idea being that he's not one
of them, but he protects them,
and that Trump in his own way,
although certainly you do have a
subset of these folks who
believe that Trump actually is a
Christian, that he had a born
again experience in the White
House, that Mike Pence led him
to Jesus in the White House.
That's funny, which would make
the events of January 6. I mean,
if someone led me to Christ, I
feel like I'd probably try to
help them if they were, you
know, in danger at the Capitol,
but set that aside. But most,
most folks, I think, are pretty
clear eyed about who Trump is.
They're not under any illusions
about him being a, you know,
Bible school, Sunday school,
Bible reading guy. It's just
that they view him as someone
who's capable of protecting them
from a culture. That has slipped
away in a country that they
don't recognize.
Adam Curry: This is This is very
strange, because if you look at
the core issues in America that
that this guy's and Bill Maher
is just skirting, it's abortion,
it's transgenderism, and it's
borders, that's really the only
thing that people care about.
But this guy summoned the
economy. Well, yes, in the but,
you know, Christians, they all
got money. They don't load it.
It's not a problem. Oh, yeah.
And by the way, this is only
white Christians. Black
Christians don't count.
Unknown: I think it's important
to distinguish real persecution
from manufactured persecution.
So
Adam Curry: he's back to the
persecution thing. And this is
what i This is the best part of
this you're talking about. Well,
that he, he believes that
Christians, uh, evangelicals,
whatever, advertising that they
feel persecuted, and that that
is why they want Trump, because
Trump will set them free
somehow. That's his whole, his
whole thing. We got Cyrus from
Persia, and he protected the
Jews. Like, what are you talking
about,
Unknown: right? So you have
Christians all around the world,
in China, in India, in Sub
Saharan Africa, yeah, they're
really persecuted. Who could
never conceive of having
political power, of cultural
influence of any sort of
privileged status conferred upon
them because of their faith
affiliation, and in some way
that helps the Christian
movement in these areas to
thrive and to be sort of
organically authentic
Adam Curry: around going
rousted.
John C Dvorak: They're gone
idiots.
Unknown: The American church.
It's obviously a very different
story, in part, because
privilege and status and power
is all we've ever known. And so
now, when you see the
demographics beginning to shift
slowly, but they are shifting.
And when you look at the
prospect of, what does a post
Christian America look like,
what does it represent, I think
to a lot of these folks here in
the White evangelical movement,
certainly the world that I came
out of, they perceive it as a
very real threat to them, and
they're desperate to sort of
hold on to what they have. But I
think the story of Christianity,
to your point, is about real
persecution and how your faith
is strong enough in the face of
whatever those challenges are to
persevere, but we are at a stage
now where we're sort of
manufacturing these threats in
order to justify the ways in
which we treat people who are
not us. This
Adam Curry: is completely
bizarre, what this guy is
saying. And Bill Maher's like,
oh yeah, oh yeah. So that, so
this,
John C Dvorak: I don't even
understand what he meant by that
last comment.
Adam Curry: Well, all that, I
think he's trying to say is that
we're in post Christian America,
which, I mean, we're certainly
not in post faith America. If
you take all the different
faiths in America, it's probably
75 80% believes in something,
including Islam. But this guy,
and he thinks that the that the
American church feels
persecuted, whereas I think he's
got it wrong. What happened is
the American church woke up
during not all, but a portion of
it woke up during covid and
went, hold on a second. The
government just shut us down.
This is a much bigger issue, not
about persecution. This is the
actual fundamentals of our
country, and that's in this
final call. You
Unknown: know, everyone has a
different definition for
Christian nationalism, and
that's part of the problem,
because we don't know exactly
how to define it. Just call
them. KKK, it's easier to me.
Christian nationalism is really
just the marriage of bad history
and bad theology. Here we go,
and one is a prerequisite for
the other. Once you've gone
around to the school boards and
the legislatures, once you have
changed the curriculum, once you
have rewritten history,
literally rewritten history
books, to convince people that,
in fact this was born to be a
Christian nation, that in fact
the establishment clause and the
First Amendment, that those
things were sort of an
elaborate, three dimensional
wink and nod from the founders
that they really did want for us
to be an explicitly Christian
nation governed by European
Christian men, and that they
were fine with an eventual
theocratic takeover of our
governing institutions.
Can you believe
Adam Curry: this? Wow, dude.
Have you read the Declaration of
Independence? Have you read the
Constitution? Have you? Have you
even looked at the people who
signed it? They're being
John C Dvorak: they're looking
forward to the theocratic
takeover.
Adam Curry: This is like, what's
true? What
John C Dvorak: trend line has he
talking about? I haven't seen
zero evidence of this. No. And
you're, if any would be a
Christian nationalist or
described as such, it would be
you, not me. Yes, completely,
and I don't see any evidence
that you're a Christian
nationalist. I
Adam Curry: am, though I met, of
course, I am, of course, of
course. What I don't know what
he's defining as a Christian
nationalist. But yes, it's the
establishment clause that all
comes down to this. They are.
Afraid for some reason that the
and this, this goes back to that
crazy guy about the I
John C Dvorak: preface before
you say what they're afraid of.
Let's start with the premise
that we're dealing with out and
out atheists. Yes, Bill Moore in
particular, and then this guy is
an obvious atheist, and they're
promoting atheism, which is, you
know, you can promote whatever
you want. That's the point of
free speech, yes, and it and but
let's not give let's not make it
more out of it than atheism,
which is what we're dealing with
here. And it's fine. You want to
be an atheist. It's your
business,
Adam Curry: right? But what he's
trying to say is the danger here
of the Christian nationalists?
Is they? They believe that the
government should, you know,
should only be run by
Christians, and that everyone
needs to pray every morning, and
then, just like Insanity, it's
insanity where and taking the
Establishment Clause of the
First Amendment, and saying, Oh
yeah, you know the they wanted
to make sure that we can get in
and they can run the run the
whole thing like a church, but
it's exactly the opposite. This
guy is accusing people of that
of which the atheists like him
are guilty of themselves, and
finish it up,
Unknown: and that they were fine
with an eventual theocratic
takeover of our governing
institutions once you get to
that place, oh, then where you
accept that piece of history as
being true, then suddenly the
way that you read Scripture is
very different, and it becomes
very easy for you to distort
basic theology. The ways in
which Jesus commands us to look
forward to a kingdom that is not
of this world. You begin to
think that actually that kingdom
is in this world, that it is
here. It is not what.
John C Dvorak: How did it go
from A to B? I
Adam Curry: don't know. It was
completely bizarre and fear
mongering over nothing other
than Christians. They might,
might, might, maybe, might, we
might get 10% more to vote this,
this election, maybe is
John C Dvorak: all it's about.
Of course, this is just about
scaring the dumb dummies out
there, of course, into believing
this. And that's going on, and
Trump's somehow gonna be part of
it, and he has to be stopped,
yeah, so we can put in an
atheist like Kamala Harris, yes,
who's a dummy,
Adam Curry: whereas I can tell
you, the only thing the
Christian nationalists are
really talking about is a
spiritual war between this guy
evil and good. That's it. That's
it. Hey, I just thought it was
kind of interesting that this is
this, this, if the fear is is
sad in a way. Anyway, what you
got?
John C Dvorak: What do I have?
You had? You said, Yeah, throw
it to me out of the blue. I
mean,
Adam Curry: I can, you said, I
have a series of clips right
after this. And so
John C Dvorak: that's, I had the
Trump clips. I got the shift
clip. I got, you know, okay,
well,
Adam Curry: then I have, I have
some serious Trump clips, kind
of serious. Well,
John C Dvorak: I Please play. I
will respond to these clips, and
then maybe I'll come up with
something. Yes, he was
Adam Curry: on Maria Bartiromo,
you know, bromp, yeah, yeah, no,
I missed that, not on her, but
on her show.
Unknown: Hey, oh, you
need some news in your Detroit
speech with news proposals, but
I want to get your take on your
economic policy, first, debt and
deficits, because you've said
you want to eliminate taxes on
tips, eliminate taxes on Social
Security, on overtime pay,
ending the double taxation of
Americans living abroad, a
proposal to make car loans
interest tax deductible. That
was, that was said. You said
that you even introduced this
15% corporate tax rate for
companies to produce an American
America and hire American
workers.
Adam Curry: So, so far, I'm
like, Yeah, let's do all that.
Let's, I didn't know about the
car loan.
John C Dvorak: Yes, that's new.
Oh, he's just that that came. I
think he maybe been introduced
at Coachella. And he does make a
point at Coachella, another
thing he says, which is that I
don't under and which is
something I've been saying. I
don't understand how you can run
for president, the presidency
and and promise tax increases
and hope to get support. No
which is what camel is doing.
I'm gonna raise everybody's
taxes. I'm gonna rich. I'm
gonna, you know, gouge the rich
and gouge the everyone you know
vote for me. It doesn't make
sense. I think the
Adam Curry: idea of making your
car loan tax deductible is
genius. It
John C Dvorak: was always
deductible until 1986
Adam Curry: oh, who changed
that? Reagan? Why did he change
that? We were out of money. I
have
John C Dvorak: no idea was to
during some period where that
was seemed like a good idea at
the time, and no one ever
reversed it, hmm.
Adam Curry: Well, I didn't know
that. But now that you know,
some people are paying nine and
10% you look, you look at the
car commercials, the lease, the
lease is amazing. This will only
cost you four nine to nine a
month. And then you look at. You
freeze the frame, you look at
the bottom with an $8,000 down
payment. Okay, that seems like a
good deal.
John C Dvorak: You have to, by
the way. This is the reason you
want to get a 4k TV. What you
just said, oh, yeah, so you can
see that stuff, so you can read
the fine print. I, and I wanted,
I don't want to go off the
topic, but I just want to say
the fine print. Have you seen
those ads where they say, Oh,
this is for, you know, you get a
special phone. They give you a
free phone, and it tells you
what you're saying so you can
hear Johnny the baseball player,
Adam Curry: like this a Medicare
scam.
John C Dvorak: If you read the
fine print the whole thing, they
route the call through India,
and some guy listens in on the
call and types in what he says.
It says very clearly. It's not
actually technology. It's just a
no, there's no technology
involved.
Adam Curry: It's a $5 phone, or
$3 phone, because it's just a
phone with big, big buttons and
then, well, it's
John C Dvorak: also got a screen
that you can read from the
screen. Oh, okay, wow. So
there's no AI, huh? No, it's
just some guy, some guy. Okay,
Adam Curry: type this out. Does
it say that some guy in India
John C Dvorak: will be might as
well say some guy,
Adam Curry: some guy, some guy
in India is typing this out for
you, Granny. But
Unknown: how will you pay for
it? The Committee for
Responsible Budget says your
plans will increase the debt by
$7.5 trillion but they don't
know that the Wall Street
Journal said that your plans
will increase the debt and
deficits more than Kamala
Harris's.
If I do this, you're going to
have car companies coming back
to the country because of the
taxes and the tariffs. The
tariffs will protect them when
they come in, so they will
protect from other companies
coming in, because if the other
companies don't come in, they're
going to have to pay massive
tariffs. And that's it. So I was
told, here's what was happening.
China was building massive car
plants, big car plants in
Mexico. That's the new one. And
I just spoke to the man that
does it. He's a friend of mine,
and I said, How's it going with
Mexico. What's happening with
the car plants? He said, Sir,
they've totally stopped. I said,
Why did they stop? Because they
think you're going to be elected
Adam Curry: as a friend of mine,
John, whenever I call you, I
want you to say, Sir, okay,
because I think that's very
reasonable. It's very reasonable
if I ask you a question as a
friend, yes, sir.
John C Dvorak: Yes, sir. All
right, so
Adam Curry: how are you going to
pay for it?
Unknown: So I'm just trying to
understand how you're going to
pay for all of this, no tax on
stuff. And you said that there's
a lot of fat in government. I
gave you an answer, growth.
We're going to grow at a level
that you've never seen before,
and we're going to have
tremendous jobs, and we're going
to have companies coming in left
and right, and they're going to
build building factories, going
to take over empty hulks that
are all over the place from
companies that left. But you've
also said that there's a lot of
fat in government that you would
want to so what agencies would
you want to shut down? Well,
let me, let me have you ask
another person that, because I'm
going to have Elon Musk. He's he
is dying to do this. You know,
he's a great business guy.
Actually, do you think of him
for science and rockets and
every time I think he's telling
me about a new screw, this was
developed, a new screw. Screws
are difficult. Wait a minute,
Adam Curry: John, have you heard
about the new screw? No,
John C Dvorak: I have not heard
about the new screw that he's
developed. It
Adam Curry: may be a loose
screw, but there's a new screw,
apparently. And it's amazing
this screw, it's the most
beautiful screw. It screws like
no one else can screw. You think
Unknown: he's telling me about a
new screw. This was developed.
He's developed a new screw.
Screws are difficult, and it's
made out of titanium, by the
way.
Adam Curry: Screws are
difficult, just so you know,
it's a new screw is an easy
screw. Listen, Elon's an easy
screw built
Unknown: a new screw. Screws are
difficult, and it's made out of
titanium, and it's so exciting.
But you know what so exciting? A
great business guy, and he's a
great cost cutter, you've seen
that, and he said, I could cut
costs without affecting anybody.
So he will be in the cabinet,
not in the cabinet. He doesn't
want to be in the cab. He just
wants to be in charge of cost
cutting. Who have a new
position, Secretary of cost
cutting. Okay?
Adam Curry: So he's not in the
cabinet, but he's the secretary
of cost cutting. Okay, this is,
this needs to be fleshed out,
okay, so just, I'm just going to
take a little side, side step on
Elon, and then we can get off
the topic, because lot of people
looking at his Starlink that
he's been giving away to the
hurricane victims, particularly
North in West North Carolina, by
the way, shout out to Bruce.
Bruce is 72 he's been without
power for 17 days. So I sure,
I'm sure, hope he gets his power
back. So a lot of bad stuff
going on up there. And so now
everyone has seen that these
starlinks that he's been
bringing in, you still have to
buy the equipment. It's
discounted. So instead of $400 I
think it's 299 And, and he's
only giving you a month free.
No,
John C Dvorak: he's giving me,
he says, free till the end of
the year. Oh, okay. Well,
Adam Curry: every report I saw
was, was a free month, yeah, no,
it's free till the end of the
year. All right, so, you know?
Okay. And then I was thinking,
you know? And I got this clip
from Mike Benz because he said
something really interesting on
the Sean Ryan podcast. All of
this stuff that Elon does is
really, it's irrelevant compared
to Starlink. Starlink is really
the main business. And when I
look at what he's, you know,
this deal that he's giving to
the people in North Carolina.
I'm like, you know, the US
taxpayer paid for this. This is
a military system. We can all
pretend it wasn't a military
system first, but it was always
been a military communication
system that has a sheen of
consumerism over it, which is
the same as Tesla. You know,
Tesla was, Oh, look at this,
beautiful. Everyone loves this.
They're so sexy, they're so
great. They drive themselves.
But it really was part of the
climate change agenda, and it
really furthered the climate
change agenda for many years,
until, you know, people are now,
you know, probably a little less
happy about them. So Starlink,
for my money, they should be
giving it away for free for two
years to these people, because
we basically paid for it the way
I see it. I don't have physical
receipts, but I'm pretty sure
that's what it is. Now. Everyone
loves Starlink. I have it as a
backup. You're considering it as
a backup. So that really means
that there can be a single point
of failure. There can be a
single point of censorship,
which I don't expect, but there
certainly can be a single point
of surveillance and Mike Benz
and Sean Ryan diving. Would
John C Dvorak: that be different
than the single point of
surveillance of that building,
the at&t building in San
Francisco, there on whatever
Fourth Street? Yeah, I
Adam Curry: think it's, I think
it's a little different because
for the NSA
John C Dvorak: operation in
Utah, well,
Adam Curry: yes, I think it is.
I mean, this is a much more
direct. You're directly
connected. You can target, okay,
I need to listen to that guy,
boom, tap into that guy. It's, I
think it's a little easier,
actually, then. So first at&t,
you know they were making a
whole copy of the internet and
the NSA. I mean, they, they,
they have to record everything
that you go back and try and
find it. In this case, it's very
targeted, like, Oh, I know where
Dvorak is. Let's see what he's
doing. So I think it is
different. So now we go to the
Brazil thing. Why did Elon
buckle to the Brazilian
government over x? It was really
about Starlink. And it starts to
come together when you hear
this. China
Unknown: is has just launched
this new SpaceX competitor that
just recently put its first
constellation of its of its
satellite mega project in play,
and this Starlink competitor,
Starlink market killer, is
something that I would not be
surprised if Brazil pursues as a
Starlink substitute. Lula
hitched his star to China, to
China. Bolsonaro was very
hostile to Chinese soft power
and Chinese investment in
Brazil. And Lula, who, again,
was backed by the US State
Department. They wanted him to
win. They sick the State
Department, the CIA and the DoD
on Bolsonaro to, you know, to
warn him against questioning the
election. They didn't do that to
Lula. And again, this whole
censorship apparatus was set up
by the State Department and
USAID to kill Bolsonaro
political support. So they
wanted Lula to win. And Lula has
reversed decades of of China
hostilities, and immediately, as
soon as he got into office,
declared that, effectively,
China is the linchpin of
Brazil's new economic
development plan, that they're
going to be a, you know, a long
distance, part of China's Belt
and Road Initiative. And they're
there. So they are now pitching
their star to China,
Adam Curry: which means, who is
this guy going to? Mike Benz,
Unknown: well, that's Mike
bends. Okay, need China's
they're gonna do favors for
China, for China to do favors in
kind.
Adam Curry: So I didn't know
that China had launched a new
Starlink competitor. And when
you have a country like Brazil
which has geo political, geo
strategic importance to us,
yeah, we want to have Starlink
be the be the pipe in. We can't
have the Chinese doing that. I
there's something up with this.
Isn't a short
John C Dvorak: there's something
up with it. But I'm not seeing
it's gonna that technology on
Starlink is so screwy.
Adam Curry: Screwy. What do you
mean? Screwy?
John C Dvorak: It's it's a
screwy technology, if you'd ever
Exam. And how those antennas
work, because it's a moving
target. It's constantly moving.
You. There is no fixed
satellite. It's not like a
satellite, you know, any sort of
geostationary satellite that
sits there, and you just go back
and forth at a even though you
can't do the fixed satellite at
low orbit like that, it's
moving. It's a moving target.
And the antenna that you're
using at your end has a bunch of
little antennas that have that
essentially target the movement
and then follow it and then pass
it off to the next one. It's,
it's almost like kind of a
virtual cell sense, cell phone
system as you're driving down
Highway five, and it keeps
changing cells. Yeah, it's doing
that in real time with a
satellite moving at high speeds
with it, with a with an antenna
array that's in that, that dish
of yours that is just screwy.
It's a crazy idea that anyone
can even pull this off that, and
in fact, that it works as a
miracle, seems to me, Yeah,
seems
Adam Curry: like a perfect
something that, well, all I know
is that there was a huge
fructose at the beginning or a
couple months into the full
scale invasion of Ukraine, and
Elon Musk apparently didn't turn
on, or it was turn we don't know
who turns on or Who turns off.
So when you have militaries or
paramilitaries or terrorists,
anything that we might happen to
control, you know, we want to
make sure that they can use the
internet and encrypt it or not,
whatever they have, this
communication system which kicks
everything else's ass compared
to these sat phones and the, you
know, 9600 baud communication
you get. This is an amazing new
thing. And you know, we can't
have China up there taking over
our business, or, even worse,
knocking some of these
satellites out. Who knows? Who
knows what you can do? Here's
another 45 seconds. I
Unknown: would not be surprised
if part of what's happening
right now with tack, with taking
out Starlink, is an attempt to
do either a favor, directly or
indirectly, for their their new
Chinese partners and or to
supplant Starlink altogether
with the this new Chinese
competitor who is looking to get
market reach and capturing, you
know, the 10th largest economy
in the world would be incredible
as a beachhead, not just in
Brazil, but also in all of South
America. But this also begs very
strange questions about why it
is the US State Department so
vociferously backed Lula, when
Lula so vosis vociferously backs
China. So
Adam Curry: there's a lot of
things at play here, and somehow
there's
John C Dvorak: a lot of things
at play. If any of this is true,
correct?
Adam Curry: I have no idea if
the Chinese system is is real or
not. I'm
John C Dvorak: well know that.
But how much did the State
Department back Lula, and how
much did the State Department
want China to go into Brazil.
This doesn't make any sense.
He's
Adam Curry: done all. He's done
a lot of deconstruction of that.
I mean, it's he has done a lot
on that. I mean, you know, Mike
Benz was in the State
Department. I think his problem
is he does stuff like this where
he said, Oh, it's like this,
and, oh, but you can go look at
my ex post, and you can watch
for an hour and a half, you
understand exactly what they
did, which is his problem. It's
very hard to just kind of
distill it down, but my
overarching point is Elon is
important because he is the
public face of our rockets, the
Starlink, which is just, it's a
military system, and it's, and
it's important when you when you
connect people, connection is
protection. When you connect
people, that brings economic
prosperity. It's, it's
undeniable, and the more
bandwidth, the better. So, so
Trump, you know, coming up with
this, oh, I'll have the
secretary of cost cutting. Okay,
well, that'll be the day.
John C Dvorak: Can you see that?
Yeah, well, that, yeah, we've
only heard those promises since
everyone's lifetime. Yeah, yeah,
right. So anyway, I mean, this
began with Hoover.
Adam Curry: What did Hoover say?
Same
John C Dvorak: thing, oh, we're
gonna shrink government. It's
been growing ever since, yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. Elon can come
in and do it today. He's gonna
stop the war in in Ukraine in a
day. Yeah, vote for me. This is
what. This is what, this is what
I mean is everyone's going
crazy, and then, you know, we'll
see Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan's going
to determine the winner of this
election. Everyone knows it.
That
John C Dvorak: seems unlikely. I
think most people pretty much
made up their minds of what
they're going to do. I. Far as I
can tell. Well, except
Adam Curry: for the black men,
the big, beautiful black men,
they've now finally come out. If
they actually go and vote,
that'll make a difference. This
is what Moe has been saying for
as long as I've known him.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yes, with
one of his basic thesis, yeah.
Let's listen to this little NPR
report on voter fraud by
government. The
Unknown: Justice Department is
suing the state of Virginia over
a program to remove voters from
its election polls in the lead
up to this November's elections,
if DMV records don't indicate US
citizenship. Federal law
prohibits purges from voter
rolls within the 98 period
leading up to an election the
system put in place by executive
order by Republican Governor
Glenn youngkin has already faced
lawsuits from immigration rights
groups. Youngkin calls the suit
politically motivated. The DOJ
recently filed suit against
Alabama over similar voter roll
purges. I got
Adam Curry: a note from one of
our producers. He says his his
sister, think his sister and his
mom live in California, and his
sister what his sister and his
mom live in California, and
neither of them got their ballot
in the mail. And he says, that's
the first time it's ever
happened. There's something
this. I mean, obviously there's
my reply to was, yes,
everybody's cheating this time
around. Hello, Oh, I did it.
Hello, hello, you
John C Dvorak: did it. Yes, you
did.
Adam Curry: I can't help. I
can't help. Everyone's
John C Dvorak: cheating. You
used to be, it used to be so
good at stopping yourself. I'm
slipping and you've lost it.
Adam Curry: I've lost my I can't
do it. I keep saying the W word
from time to time as well. It's,
it's so prevalent, so prevalent
everywhere. They overdid it.
They had a dream about that. You
had a dream about the W word?
Yeah. What happened? Yeah.
John C Dvorak: We were having
this competition. The two of us
and I had, I had stopped saying
it, and you couldn't stop saying
it. It was a, was a strange
dream. Somebody was, I remember,
I was working on the ascent, but
as an inspector for trail
mobile. And some minute, wait a
minute,
Adam Curry: trail mobile, yeah,
John C Dvorak: trail mobile.
This
Adam Curry: is a new story. I
don't know anything about. No, I
think it's been brought up
before is trailmobile.
John C Dvorak: Trailmobile used
to make trailers and cargo
containers for Matson. And you
know that was I worked on the
cargo container alarm for trains
Adam Curry: or for trucks,
John C Dvorak: for ships. Oh,
ships, okay, you know those
containers that put on the back
of a truck? And, yeah, yeah.
This is the early days of it.
This is when it first began,
when containerized shipping
first began. They had a whole
line there making these things.
And this guy says to me, he's,
you know? He says, hey, you
know, I started dreaming about
the job. He says, I now I gotta
quit. Said, why? He says, you
when you start dreaming about a
job, you gotta quit. There's
some rule.
Adam Curry: This is a bad omen.
You have, you have four more
years. Feel good about it. You
have four more years. You can't
quit now. There's no quitting in
podcasting. I can't do that.
There's
John C Dvorak: no quitting in
baseball. There's no crying in
baseball. I
Adam Curry: can confidently say
I don't think I've ever had a
dream that you were in.
John C Dvorak: Well, good, yeah,
yeah. But now that you get lost
in one of your dreams, but
Adam Curry: somehow you suck me
into yours. Yeah? Well,
John C Dvorak: I was just, it
was just to humiliate you. I
think because you kept saying
that word, the W word, okay,
yes.
Adam Curry: And your older men
will have dreams. Speaking of
containers, we're going to
Chicago. One
Unknown: by one, people made
their way up the tracks to raid
this freight train parked at an
overpass off Cicero and Lake. In
all
my years living on the west
side, I've never seen actual
freight train parked over a
buyout where people actually
going into it
yet. CBS sky watch captured just
that Friday. Watch as folks grab
boxes of TVs from the train cars
and easily load them on top of
vehicles waiting, people just
kind of standing there, like in
disbelief, and all like, Oh,
wow. I can't believe this
happened. Princess
Shaw watched all of this unfold
from her car. She snapped these
images and immediately called
911
gave 911 a call, I'm talking to
dispatch, and they're like,
Yeah, you're not the only call
that's been made. We've had
several calls waiting for a car
to get dispatched.
Police sources say CPD had to
wait over an hour for Union
Pacific officers to respond and
secure the tracks, leaving ample
time for more and more people to
loot the train cars, and
they were just opening it up
like it was, like it was
Christmas.
Take a look at this video. It
shows the thieves holstering a
TV from the tracks directly in
front of Chicago police cruiser,
despite lights and sirens on
these guys kept on with their
illegal mission. It's not clear
if officers were in the vehicle
at the time, but radio dispatch
reveals cops were not arresting
when first on scene,
we just drove by a big group of
people. They're still losing
their.
Time, they've already shown that
they're not equipped or ready
for what they did today. So if
copycats come, they're not
ready. If it took them an hour,
we captured more people a few
blocks away, scaling the walls
trying to get to other trailers,
even after officers arrived,
nothing
but empty boxes. Nothing but,
but just scattered. Everything
everywhere.
The empty TV boxes litter Cicero
Avenue, leading many to wonder
how they were able to pull this
off so easily.
How do they know where the TVs
were there's not like the
freight trains are labeled. So
it just leaves you to there's a
lot of questions here that are
left unanswered. This
Adam Curry: is a, an odd
throwback to the days of Jesse
James and the the great, wait
John C Dvorak: a minute. We
didn't, wasn't there a similar
story that we had on this show,
like, about 40 years ago,
California.
Adam Curry: It was happening. It
was during covid. No, I thought
it was
John C Dvorak: in Chicago before
covid. And I thought it was
Chicago, I
Adam Curry: thought it was
California, but they were just
looting,
John C Dvorak: you know, some
park, Park vehicles, not
vehicles, but trucks, trucks.
Oh, truck, cargo containers.
Yeah, vaguely, very strange
story.
Adam Curry: Well, when you see
the video, it's even crazier. I
mean, there must be 100 people,
and the cops are just sitting
there, like, whatever is, you
know, this is train robbery.
Can't have this. Just strange.
Kamala's fault. Just blame it on
Kamala. No Biden, that's what
everybody seems to do. Blame it
on Kamala. All right, I'm
leaving a
John C Dvorak: I got a couple. I
got some stuff I got, let's
start. Let's start. I hate to do
is going to pull Jesse waters
out of the bin,
Adam Curry: out of the bit.
Okay, as long as you say he's
coming out of the bin. I'm okay
with this coming
John C Dvorak: out of the bin.
There's a couple of good
deconstruction. He did something
on the show, and he talked about
camel is appearance on 60
minutes. And he has, I thought
they brought some factoids out
here. This is the 60 minutes
deconstruction that that was on
on Jesse waters. And he is
starts off by playing a clip of
of her being grilled about
something, and then her comment,
and they did a follow up. His
producers did a follow up that
nobody else has done.
Unknown: And if you think she
was unprepared for the view,
watch her on 60 minutes.
The first bill we proposed to
Congress was to fix our broken
immigration system, knowing that
if you want to actually fix it,
we need Congress to act. It was
not taken up. Arrivals
quadrupled from the last year of
President Trump. Was it a
mistake to loosen the
immigration policies as much as
you did?
It's a long standing problem,
and solutions are at hand, and
from day one, literally, we have
been offering solutions.
What I was asking was, was it a
mistake to kind of allow that
flood to happen in the first
place?
The policies that we have been
proposing are about fixing a
problem, not promoting a
problem, okay, but the
numbers did quadruple.
She can't even answer the
question because she never tried
to fix the border until it was
an election year. She claims she
sent an immigration bill to
Congress on day one, and it
wasn't taken up. Well, Prime
Time producers investigated,
because from all we remembered
out of the gate, Biden signed
seven executive orders shredding
Trump's border policies. We
didn't recall a Biden Harris
immigration bill on inauguration
day because Biden Harris didn't
propose a bill fixing the
immigration system. We
discovered they submitted an
amnesty bill that would give
citizenship to all of the Eagles
in the country. And part of that
bill, you can't call them
illegals. You have to call them
undocumented newcomers. Nancy
and Chuck controlled the House
and the Senate back then, no
wonder they didn't take it up.
It was political suicide.
Adam Curry: Yeah, Waters is has
been doing a lot of interesting
things in the past couple of
months, which is, you know, I
kind of missed the humor he used
to be. Yeah, that's true. Yeah,
I agree. He's trying to be, you
know, he's trying to do good
work, yeah, stop. Well,
John C Dvorak: it's just, it's
not him. Anyway. Let's, you
know, the soul behind the just
the producers and executive
producers, the guys are really
run the show, and he just
happens to be the front man.
Yeah. Now he did. I get two more
clips from him. Oh, and this is
when he had Kevin McCarthy on
the show. And this really kind
of Kevin McCarthy. Is two clips
here, and one of them is he's
kind of two faced. Kevin
McCarthy has been on, stumping
around, and I'm hurt by the fact
that he the first time I heard.
Him do? He was on a podcast. I
didn't record it, but after I
heard this, when he on the on
waters, I kind of kicked myself,
because I have to tell you what
he said on the on the podcast,
he went on about how he got
kicked out of his speakership,
and he blamed the whole thing on
Matt gates.
Adam Curry: Go, oh, that's what
I heard that. And then he even
was talking about Matt Gates's
underage hookers or whatever.
Unknown: Yeah, yeah,
Adam Curry: my podcast, it
John C Dvorak: was a great
podcast. The guy's going on and
on. In the end, he's just
getting it out of him. McCarthy
said, he said, he expresses the
following. He says, what
happened was Matt Gaetz was in
trouble. Did some one of the
committees was investigating him
because of all these underage
girls and gates comes up to him
and says, Hey, Kevin, you're the
Speaker of the House. Can you
help me out? And instead of
McCarthy's shining him on,
instead of gonna say, Yeah,
sure, oh yeah, he didn't do
that, he says, No, I can't help
you out. I can't do anything.
And so it pissed off gates. And
so Gates got together with, with
with mace, the female Nancy
mace, I guess is her name, yes,
and they got they kicked it.
Managed to kick him out because
of some rule, and he says it's
all because of of this who's
just not helping him on this
investigation. And then the
podcaster says to him, Well, you
so you speak to him anymore, or
you use friends anymore. And
because I know everyone gets
together after stuff like this
happens, he says, and then
McCarthy says, No, I'm not
talking to a pedophile.
Adam Curry: Whoa, whoa, that's
slanderous, libelous,
John C Dvorak: but not if it's
not necessarily this is true.
You can say the truth. Yeah, so
here he is on Jesse, what
waters. And the first clip is
him talking about camel never
showing up to meetings when he
was in Congress. He says they'd
have a they'd have a meeting.
Kamala show up when she felt
like and I thought this was kind
of revealing. But then this the
second clip where he comes back
again with his complaining. This
was where we're going to play
the first one though, yeah, play
the first clip, and then I'll
did the second clip. This
Unknown: was where remarkable
you would see, respect what
someone would hold the meeting
up for. No Joe Biden never
waited for he'd start the
meeting, even with this, she
wasn't so then she'd show up,
and you'd wonder, does she know
what's going on? And only now
and then she would interject.
But it was kind of like the
person interjecting and you were
30 minutes late on that
question. We already handled
that section,
so she was late to these
meetings. She wasn't prepared.
Wasn't prepared. Was that her
fault because she said she had
staff problems. I mean, isn't it
your responsibility to prepare
yourself at a certain point,
you know what your meetings are,
you know where you're going to
go the next day. She's got all
the staff in the world that she
needs, but no one will stay with
92% have left.
Adam Curry: This backs up your
theory that she doesn't want to
be president because she's lazy.
Yes, she doesn't, she doesn't
like it, yeah,
John C Dvorak: yeah, she just as
soon not get the win. She's just
benefit and then get out. So
here he goes back into this that
she can't keep her staff. And
I'll listen carefully to what he
says as a kind of a kind of a
little aside that it's chicken
shit, but it's part of this
overall. I'm still irked about
the fact that I got kicked out
of the speakership. She's got
all the
Unknown: staff in the world that
she needs, but no one will stay
with 92% have left. Everybody
knows whether you're Republican
or Democrat. It happens on both
sides. Nancy mace, on the
Republican side, nobody will
work for her. And there's a
reason why nobody will work for
for Kamala Harris, who's the
Vice President of the United
States.
Adam Curry: Hmm, why will no
John C Dvorak: Nancy mace? He
says, brings a ride out because
she's one of the ones that had
that got him ousted. He says,
Nancy Mace is a good example. On
the Republican side, nobody will
work for her. That's odd. Wow.
Well, maybe it's true. I don't
know Nancy mace. You know you've
seen her before. She seemed
reasonable. I don't know, but
there's definitely McCarthy is
out for blood, but He does it so
solid because he's got a smile
on his face and he's just
everything's matter of fact,
yeah,
Adam Curry: what's he doing?
What is he doing? Is he still
doing?
John C Dvorak: I think he's
trying to get a job in the Trump
administration
Unknown: for Trump,
Adam Curry: yeah. What's this?
Uh, band C stuff. You know, my
ham, my ham, Funny Bone got
tickled when I saw this weather
and band C. And like play band
John C Dvorak: C, weather and
info. PBS include
Unknown: Marjorie Taylor green,
the Republican from Georgia, who
claimed the federal government
can control the weather. You
know, Charlie werthel of the
Atlantic has a great piece where
John C Dvorak: he's now stuff.
Clip. Now, this is about
Adam Curry: Helene Milton.
John C Dvorak: It's about the
weather, about Nancy. This is
PBS you played in the last show.
I was going to send you a note
about these clips and say, can
you bring up some of those
clips, at least the key clip
that you played, because what
you did, you we talked about
this in the last show. Not this
is all new, but we talked about
in the last show, about
controlling the weather. And you
played a series of clips you
might be able to dig one of the
two of one or two of the
important ones up where it's our
government who has made the
claim that they can control the
weather. And you had some clips
from, I think, the Johnson
administration, or wherever they
were from, yes, that just kind
of pounded this point home. But
yet, we listen to this PBS
report, where this guy, this,
Adam Curry: would you like to
hear the the Johnson clip? Yeah,
let's play
John C Dvorak: this is from
Lyndon Johnson, back in the
Dayton,
Unknown: the foundation for the
development of a weather
satellite that will permit man
to determine the world's cloud
layer and ultimately to control
the weather, and he who controls
the weather will control the
world.
Adam Curry: The other clip I had
was an overview of all the
experiments the government has
done. And that was from France
24 it's a minute and a half. If
you want to hear it, you don't
have to. That's fine.
John C Dvorak: We don't well,
let you maybe you can decide or
after we play these clips. So I
want to play these clips, these
two clips about the weather, and
I forgot why I call them ban.
See, I think there's some other
I forgot that otherwise, I would
have sent you this note, but
they have gone nuts about this,
and because, because of Marjorie
Taylor Greene, just offhandedly
saying, hey, yeah, this is going
on which you proved in the last
show. But oh no, no, this is
total denial. Now. This is bold
nuts.
Unknown: Marjorie Taylor green,
the Republican from Georgia who
claimed the federal government
can control the weather, Charlie
worth of the Atlantic has a
great piece where he says, This
isn't just a misinformation
crisis, it's something darker.
It's cultural assault on
institutions and individuals
that operate in reality. How do
you see this moment that we're
living in? Well,
one, let's just call it what it
is. I'll call it what it is, not
just misinformation. And hold
John C Dvorak: on a second, stop
B and C is Brooks and Capehart.
Adam Curry: That's funny. I look
at your clip list and it says
band C. It says capital B, A, D,
and then capital C. And part
John C Dvorak: of my codes,
well, your code is,
Adam Curry: I'm like C band. I
wonder what's going on with C
band. This could be some cool
like, ham clip. No,
John C Dvorak: no, it's Brooks.
I got punished Brooks. And yes,
we're reading into things Brooks
and K hard. I have a bunch of
their clips. I'll play these,
and then it gets a couple more.
They go off the deep end. And
this is like, you know, oh, this
is lies. But you know, like I
said, you already showed us that
this is all coming from, you
know, the Democrats
Unknown: that we're living in.
Well, one, let's just call it
what it is. I'll call it what it
is, not just misinformation and
disinformation. It's lies, lies
that are putting people's lives
at risk, that is tearing tearing
apart communities, people who
are in in danger, who are at the
most stressful point in their
lives, trying to outrun a
hurricane and being told that
your government is not where you
pay taxes, your government is
not coming to help you, Your
government is giving money away
to other people, all lies. And
what makes this even more
reprehensible is that
Republicans, who know better,
are not speaking out in force
and en masse to say this is not
right. This is wrong. President
Trump, please stop doing what
you're doing. I give the
governors of Georgia and Florida
and Florida, the Republican
governors of Georgia and
Florida, credit for saying, you
know, the Biden administration
has been very helpful, pushing
back against the misinformation.
But I want Republicans to be
more direct in saying, Who's
feeding the who's feeding the
disinformation and the lies and
hold that person accountable.
John C Dvorak: I'd like to hold
on a second the governors of
Georgia and Florida as DeSantis
and the other guy, Kemp, I guess
they they weren't pushing back
on disinformation. They said
they were just cooperating with
Biden. Or when were they pushing
back on disinformation? I give
them credit for pushing back on
disinformation. What's he
talking about? I
Adam Curry: don't know, but I
need to add one other thing to
the weather modification that
they are capable of doing, and
we've discussed this as far.
Back as episode, I think, 200
even, maybe even earlier than
that. And this was the testimony
in 1997 by Secretary of Defense,
William Cohen. And it's and it's
on the on the Defense
Department's website, and I'm
just going to so the question
was, let me ask you specifically
about last week's scare here in
Washington, what we might have
learned from how prepared we
prepared we ought to deal with
B'nai Brith, I guess, some
terrorist threat. And then he
says he got, there's a whole
bunch of stuffs, a bunch of
precursor the same thing is true
about this. So this is the
Secretary of Defense in 1997 the
same thing is true about just
the false scare of threat using
some kinds of chemical weapon or
a biological one. There are some
reports, for example, that some
countries have been trying to
construct something like an
Ebola virus, and that would be a
very dangerous phenomenon, to
say the least. Aven Toffler has
written about this in terms of
some scientists. Alvin Toffler
has written about this in terms
of some scientists in their
laboratories trying to devise
certain types of pathogens that
will be specific so they could
just eliminate certain ethnic
groups and races. Sound
familiar. And others are
designing, and others are
designing sorts of engineering,
some sort of insects that can
destroy specific crops. Others
are engaging even in an eco type
of terrorism, whereby they can
alter the climate, set off
earthquakes, volcanoes remotely
through the use of
electromagnetic waves. So come
on. I mean, it's very valid to
say they have this capability.
They've certainly, they have
certainly talked about it. Yeah.
So
John C Dvorak: Marjorie Taylor
green isn't nuts. Well, she just
does her research.
Adam Curry: She's a little out
there, little kooky boy. She
John C Dvorak: okay. She is nuts
or not. But besides the point,
you can't condemn her for this
comment, because this week, have
it backed up, and it's been
backed up by our own government.
I mean, are you kidding me? This
K part guy is full of it and and
he could condemns everybody and
calls lies, lies, lies. Let's
Play Part Two. Is
Unknown: there any way back from
this when we have this ecosystem
that exists where people
actually believe that the
federal government can control
the weather, something as
nonsensical is that seriously? I
mean an indictment of our time.
I know each party has to police
their own side, and Republicans
have failed that that big time,
since 2015 the larger question
for me is the rise of Donald
Trump shows it's an advantage to
have no conscience.
Adam Curry: Now, what? What do
you say at the end? No,
John C Dvorak: it's an advantage
to have no conscience. What I'm
so Donald Trump is just a what
he's suggesting is his
sociopath. Boob, yes, no, that's
no conscience. Is like a
psychopath? Well, that's what he
suggested, basically what he
said. I'm
Adam Curry: glad I brought that
transcript back, because I had
either long since forgotten that
they were talking about
pathogens that could target
specific DNA. Hello, I did it
again. I'm gonna keep doing it
now. Hello. I don't know what
John C Dvorak: you can do about
it. This is the news. This is
your earmark. That's right.
Adam Curry: It's not that Adam
curry mark. Adam curry. The
Hello Guy is I'm gonna have
stickers, posters. Gonna have
that mate. So while we're on the
topic of Donald Trump being a
horrible man with no conscience,
Lawrence O'Donnell could not
resist and brought back an old
classic, where
Unknown: is the humanity? Where
is the humanity? Where is the
humanity? Donald Trump seems to
have none. He
Adam Curry: has no humanity, not
a shred of humanity.
Unknown: To have none, not a
shred of humanity. Donald Trump
said today that he believes that
immigrants to this country are
genetically inferior human
beings. Exactly what Adolf
Hitler, well, he's
Adam Curry: gonna, oh, Lawrence.
Lawrence brought receipts. Man,
he didn't say that. No, no, wait
for it. It's coming. It's
coming. But I just have to stop,
and he's bringing back the
Hitler meme, and he's peace.
Trump did not say this. Trump
said something else. And, oh,
wait, did
John C Dvorak: he just say? He
just said? He said, no liar,
yeah. He
Unknown: believes that
immigrants to this country are
genetically inferior human
beings. That is exactly what
Adolf Hitler, immigrants,
Adam Curry: by all immigrants,
immigrants everywhere, legal
immigrants, illegal immigrants,
newcomers, immigrants, just
immigrants. Tony with the deli
on the corner, he's an
immigrant, genetically inferior.
Thought and
Unknown: said Donald Trump
doesn't seem to remember that he
is a descendant of immigrants to
this country, including his
mother, who was an immigrant. He
misses
Adam Curry: a big opportunity
here to say that his father also
comes from immigrants, and he's
German, so maybe there's some
Adolf blood in him. He missed
that. Missed that. Laura, I'm
surprised.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you know
what danger brought this, this
call back up. Up. I'm surprised
the drum thing hasn't showed up.
Again coming. I'm
Adam Curry: sure it's coming.
Let's continue. Two
Unknown: of the mothers of
Donald Trump's children are
immigrants. Donald Trump, yeah,
Adam Curry: but they're hot.
Okay, so hot immigrants is not
the same. Look at the genes.
Look at the genes. They look
fine. Said today, quote, we've
Unknown: got a lot of bad genes
in our country right now.
Adam Curry: There it is. That's
what the whole deduction, the
whole deconstruction, is from
that quote, we've got a lot of
bad genes. Hey, he could have
meant Levi's.
John C Dvorak: That's what I was
thinking about. Levi's for him,
Adam Curry: what was the what
was the bag we got? Hey, man,
the inner city got some bag bad
genes going on. What was the
what was the famous one with the
V on the back? Was it
Vanderbilt? Vanderbilt? And
also, wasn't there Sergio
Valenti or something? Was
there's
John C Dvorak: a bunch of these
jeans guys, a lot of jeans.
Unknown: And again, that is
almost word for word, what Adolf
Hitler was saying in the 1930s
before he started World War Two,
and before he started
John C Dvorak: to speak English.
So how could it be word for
word,
Unknown: and before he started
an organized extermination
prodash?
Adam Curry: That's it. Thank
you. Jordan,
Unknown: of the Jewish people,
in which Adolf Hitler's ambition
was to execute every living
Jewish person he could find
anywhere in Europe. Because,
among other things, he believed
the bad genes theory that Donald
Trump believes and spews in his
views madness and
relentlessness.
Adam Curry: Madness, poisonous
madness, relentless or No,
Unknown: madness and relentless
stupidity at 78 years old, no,
we don't know how much longer
the world will have to endure
Donald Trump's Hitlerian rant.
Hitlerian, we should expect that
for every year Donald Trump has
left, he is going to get worse.
It's
Adam Curry: only gonna get
worse. It's only downhill from
here. Lawrence told you, so Wow,
John C Dvorak: God, this guy is
disgusting. Oh, he's great. He's
great. I'm gonna go back to
Brooks and Cape I want to play.
This is the Brooks and Cape one,
and this has got a little gotcha
in here, and I want this is
again, we have our guy, the
black ghost, yes, who's just
drops a little bomb in here.
Never explains it. I don't. And
this is very common on this PBS.
PBS News Hour has, deter has,
has deteriorated to such an
extremist embarrassment to
journalism, former President
Unknown: Barack Obama hits the
campaign trail for Kamala Harris
as the race for the White House
enters its final weeks and
Donald Trump unleashes a torrent
of false statements and
distortions about the federal
response to hurricanes Milton
Colleen. Let's turn now to the
analysis of Brooks and Capehart.
That's New York Times columnist
David Brooks and Jonathan
Capehart, associate editor for
The Washington Post. This
Adam Curry: is where in my
house, this is where we switch
the channel. Wait, this is we
switch the channel. I'm just
saying, Wait, where's
John C Dvorak: the torrent of
falsehoods and falls? What is
specifically, is he talking
about? He never says.
Adam Curry: It's a torrent. It's
a tidal wave. It's a tsunami of
lies. And
Unknown: Jonathan Capehart,
associate editor for The
Washington Post, great to see
you both. So the polls show a
race that is as tight as ever,
25 days out from election day,
and Democrats are doing what
Democrats do best. They are
worrying. They are fretting that
Kamala Harris's early momentum
might have stalled. I want to
start with your assessments of
the race. But David, you first,
has there been a vibe shift?
Adam Curry: Oh, a vibe shift?
Oh, oh,
John C Dvorak: well, I'm still
waiting for the torrent of lies.
What were they?
Adam Curry: I'm already past it.
I'm past it already. You know,
it's bad. Well,
John C Dvorak: you get passed up
faster than I do. Bad
Adam Curry: genes. Well, you're,
you're a PBS guy from the from
old school. You know, you used
to love PBS. You probably
depended on them and thought
they were, hey, believe me,
uncle Don and Aunt Meg, every
night they would watch the PBS
NewsHour. They did not watch
NBC, ABC, CBS, the spooks of
this world. They watch PBS
NewsHour. That's a that's a
little inside info into the
world of spookidge. Yeah. Well,
that
John C Dvorak: doesn't surprise
me. They
Adam Curry: used to all read
Newsweek. I don't think they
read Newsweek anymore. No
Newsweek
John C Dvorak: is done. It's not
one by Salesforce. Guy from
Adam Curry: Christmas I get a
Newsweek subscription from Don
and Meg,
John C Dvorak: there's coded
messages in there, obviously,
yeah,
Adam Curry: and it did not work,
because I was more interested in
boys life. I don't know why not
what? What I was boys life, the
magazine, boy's life. You never
you know doing all about boy's
life, isn't that a boy scout?
Drill, yeah, I was way into Boy
Scouts and camping. And were you
in a boy scouts? I was a sea
scout in Holland, actually. Oh,
a
John C Dvorak: sea scout. Oh,
they used to have that in the
United States. I don't remember
what happened to the sea scouts.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: you could, you did
not lots of knots. I could learn
how to sail and learn how to
sail. I can sail. I can, I can
do lots of knots. Yes,
John C Dvorak: knots. You can do
a lot of knots, earning more and
more today. What I can
Adam Curry: do a slip knot in
one second.
John C Dvorak: There's, that's
special technique, great. Okay,
so where were we on these three
Adam Curry: clips? We're number
two. Okay, go,
Unknown: has there been a vibe
shift? Yeah.
I mean, her momentum has
stalled. She was going going up,
then she seemed to plateau. And
I would say, if you look at the
polling movement in the last
week, Trump is doing slightly
better, and I should emphasize
slightly, and so he's doing a
lot better in the Sun Belt,
swing states, in the industrial
Midwest, he's doing slightly
better, but again, very slight.
And so you'd have to think, you
know, when I look at the the
results right now, where we are.
And of course, it could all
change. I do think the decision
not to pick Josh up here on
Pennsylvania, we could look back
on that as a major mistake.
Second, I think she made a
mistake this week by not
breaking with Joe Biden on a
bunch of major issues. She was
asked twice on two different
shows, is anything really
different? And she basically
said no, and this is a country
where, what, 28% think the
country's on the wrong track.
Joe Biden has like, a 41%
approval. It seems to me,
elementary, active politics. I
my own person. This is how I
would change. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I think we both
said, that's where she lost the
election, right there on that on
the view, by going, Well,
John C Dvorak: you said it
first, and I will give you
credit, you said it immediately
that this is the election. It's
right there on the
Adam Curry: view. You see what I
do. I bring you into it, and I
say, we know
John C Dvorak: you do. That was
very I thought that was nice of
you. But I will write back
Indian, but I'll push the other
way and say, You, nailed it
right away. Indian giver, I give
it. I mean, I have, uh, I
thought about it, but I didn't
make it, uh, determining at the
level that you did. So as you
you just have to take credit for
that. Yeah, I Okay, I'll take
it. And I think you're right. I
think you're dead, right. I
think that's the stupidest thing
she could send. She was given a
second opportunity. Did the same
thing. She just couldn't do it.
She couldn't
Adam Curry: what was the second
opportunity? Oh,
John C Dvorak: she was asked the
same question by by Colbert, and
Adam Curry: she did it, but she
didn't have this goofy look on
her face. Did she? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: she that's the
look she has. That's her look.
She's got a goofy look. Yeah,
no, she dropped the ball twice,
just what Brook said. Now, k
part, of course, of these clips,
thank God, Joe. You know, he's a
he. Yes, he is the, oh, you
know, can almost the greatest
thing since sliced bread. And,
you know, black males should all
vote for and everything you said
is wrong, because if it's
disparaging about Kamala, she's
the greatest. And so he defends
her. Jonathan, how
Unknown: do you see it? The race
today is the race as it was when
she became the top of the
ticket, as it was the night of
the dreadful debate on June 27
as it was in the months before
that. It's close, it's always
going to be close. It was always
going to be close. And the fact
that Democrats are panicking,
I'm not shocked by it. I'm
annoyed by it, because, you
know, you could do all the
panicking you want, but it's
going to come true if folks
don't get out and vote. And I
don't know if I agree with
there's been a vibe shift, and
you know the she's played time
and all of this other stuff, I
think that what's happening is
reality is setting in. It's
going to be close in this idea
that she made a mistake in not
picking Governor Shapiro. I just
have to disagree with that
strenuously, strenuously, she
picked Governor Walz. I think
Governor Walz is is a terrific
candidate, and I think what she
needs to be doing in this in
this campaign, is continuing to
go out there and do what she's
done all week this week, going
out and talking to people on the
various shows and podcasts and
everything, and telling showing
them who she is and what she's
for. And what I found
interesting is, of all the
interviews, Howard Stern
interview was terrific. But I
also thought her interview with
Stephen Colbert was was very
good. And I was thinking of your
your column, David, in that in
watching her in this interview
with a comedian, you, I felt
like you actually got to see the
real Kamala Harris, personality
wise, but also what she stands
for, what she believes in, in a
manner that is more comfortable
than when she's sitting before
60 minutes. Yeah,
Adam Curry: this so now they're
in a circular jerk, a THON,
oops. Worry about that, because
if you ask anybody, what do you
think of the Kamala interview?
Do they say, Oh, you mean 60
minutes? No. Do they say, Oh,
you mean on Colbert show, who
has, I think, 100 like 1.2
million viewers? No. Do you know
what they all say, Oh, you mean
on caller daddy. These guys have
no idea how over they are,
caller they are, yeah, that's
what that's all people are
talking about, is the call,
caller dad, and they probably
didn't view it. They just think,
oh, call her daddy. Oh, she must
be talking about her specialty.
John C Dvorak: Well, you gotta
bring that up. I do have one
screwball clip. This is a from
the Gutfeld show. And this is
the
Adam Curry: John's evening.
While viewing, we go from PBS
news hour to the there's no NTD,
I don't want to happen. And then
we go to Gutfeld, yes. And then
this
John C Dvorak: is Gutfeld
telling a joke that I thought
was funny. And this is about the
porn for Harris. People do the
porn. You know, the porns now
the porn people are for Harris
and gutfield mocks it in a, I
thought, a amusing way, the porn
Unknown: industry has launched a
$100,000 ad campaign in support
of Kamala Harris. Makes sense.
They're both known for sucking,
Adam Curry: yeah, so I saw, I
saw that. I'm sorry. No, it's
okay. I saw the I saw the
campaign, and it's very tired,
because it's all about Project
2025 like, if Donald Trump is
elected, Project 2025 will
outlaw porn and
John C Dvorak: Oh, is that? Oh,
yeah. I was unaware of the of
the actual campaign. I didn't
Adam Curry: even clip it. It was
so dumb, like, and I saw it last
week. Okay,
John C Dvorak: that's what. This
is a protection mode ad. Because
they think this project 2025,
thing. And somebody pointed out
that they that the Heritage
Foundation has been doing this
stuff since the 80s, or not 90s.
What they do? Yeah, and then all
of a sudden it's been turned
into a campaign point of
information. Claiborne.
Adam Curry: Claiborne, on CNN,
Clyburn. Clyburn, yeah, he's
the, he's the kingmaker. He's
the kingmaker. You know, you get
clyborne. He, he made Joe the,
the candidate. I mean, has a lot
of power. He comes on whatever.
Dana, what's her face? Horse
face on CNN. Dana Bash, I guess
she was sorry. Dana Donna Donna
Donna, and, and
John C Dvorak: Don Yeah, Donna
Donna, Dana Donna Donna Donna
Donna Donna.
Adam Curry: And she says, Well,
are you worried? He says, I am
worried. And, but people need to
know that if you elect Donald
Trump, it's going to be Jim Crow
2.0 with Project 2025 like, holy
crap. That's all they have.
That's all they have nothing.
They have nothing left nothing.
They have nothing to say. And of
course, it's not a close race,
because America doesn't elect
presidents like Kamala Harris,
it just not gonna happen, not
because she's a woman, not
because she's black, it's just,
she's just doesn't have the
profile. Doesn't have the
profile. Trump is a little old
to have the profile, but you
know, you get shot in the air.
You do the fight, fight, fight.
That's the profile of America.
And then you want to talk some
gaffes. Let's just run through a
quick couple of gap. Camela
gaffs, this is the first one.
Unknown: And I also want to
thank your father, Vice
President Dick Cheney, for his
support, okay, and what he has
done to serve our country. Every
endorsement matters, and this
endorsement matters a great deal
Liz, and it carries the special,
special significance
Adam Curry: what he has done for
our country, responsible for the
death of American servicemen and
women in a needless war for oil
and nonsense. That's who you're
thanking, Madam, Madam Vice
President. And then this was
kind of, this was kind of funny.
This was, oh, wait, no, wait,
no, this. This is before I get
to the funny. This is the latest
this. Okay, we've got him now.
Now we've got him. I've got a
plan. We had a meeting. All
right. Time to do this. Madam,
Vice President,
Unknown: Vice President Kamala
Harris is in excellent health.
That's according to a letter by
her White House doctor,
she possesses the physical and
mental resiliency required to
successfully execute the duties
of the presidency,
Adam Curry: which, looking at
Joe Biden, isn't much
Unknown: despite no law
compelling candidates to do so.
Harris took aim at former
President Donald Trump for not
providing. His own health
history. So today,
I released my medical records,
as I believe every candidate for
President of the United States
except Donald Trump in this
election cycle, and it's just a
further example of his lack of
transparency.
There is very little known about
Trump's health This includes,
after an attempted assassination
in July in which a bullet grazed
his ear, his team has insisted
the 78 year old is fit for the
job without providing further
medical information.
Adam Curry: You get the idea?
So, oh, I know we're gonna do
you can hear all. You can just
see the memos. It's time to
attack Trump on his on his age.
He's demented. He's demented.
And Trump demented part kills.
Trump falls for it. He's like,
no, no. It's called the weave.
They people think I'm that I
served that too. Is I'm genius
at the weave. I'm great at the
wheel. We did the What's it? The
flagrant podcast with that
comedian with the mustache,
forget his name, which is, it's
not a podcast I watch, but he
was really personable, really
good, very funny, you know,
endearing at times. He talked
about his kids and about being a
father, you know? And then when
he, of course, you don't see
that, because it's on a podcast.
And then all we get is, I got
the weave, and we and then the
last one for, you
John C Dvorak: know that, you
know that podcast he was on with
those four guys for comics.
That's the one, yeah, did with
the weave. That's where he came
with the weave. Oh, he
Adam Curry: mentioned the weave
before, but he went into detail
on the weave. He
John C Dvorak: that was, I don't
have a clip of it, but I was
reading about how one of the
news organizations said that,
oh, Trump tried to explain how
he he's scatterbrained, and they
all laughed at him. No,
Adam Curry: no, no,
John C Dvorak: I know it's what
I mean. Is just like, what? How
are you interpreting this, any
of this stuff, these people are
terrible. They're terrible.
Adam Curry: I have a clip,
actually from that, and he said
something which I was I found
questionable. She
Unknown: is an add on that I'm
against IVF. She knows it's
untrue. She is an add on that
bloodbath. Bloodbath means,
like, blood. That's not what I
was talking about the automobile
industry. It's going to be a
bloodbath in the automobile
we're going to lose all our
business. That's what's
referring to when they do things
and they do a lot, but I always
refer them back to the
simplicity of McDonald's. She
lied about McDonald's. She lied
about many things, and she's a
liar. There should be some kind
of a rule when they know it's a
lie, you can't do a commercial
on it.
Adam Curry: Okay? It sounds like
censorship to me. This would be
some kind of a rule about it.
Now we're gonna have to vet.
Yeah, you're right. I
John C Dvorak: think that was a
blunder. And
Adam Curry: I think that that,
to me, was blunderish. Yes, for
sure, and then because
John C Dvorak: it's just falling
in line with the other side. So
Adam Curry: then Madam Vice
President is on a zoom call with
FEMA, and she's sitting at her
desk. Oh yeah, this
John C Dvorak: is a good one.
I'm surprised you clipped it
because
Adam Curry: I only clipped it
because Sky News, Australia, you
know the
John C Dvorak: woman and her
buddies, everybody? Yeah, very
funny stuff. Sky News,
Australia,
Adam Curry: you got enough
problems of your own, but okay,
we'll take this one now I don't
think, I don't think they're
right, and I think the way it
played on social media was
incorrect, but it was funny.
Kamala
Unknown: Harris made a bizarre
gaff during an FEMA hurricane
Milton emergency update
broadcast which sent social
media into a spin, the Vice
President received a briefing
from disaster relief authorities
on preparations and weather
forecasts for the hurricane.
During the video briefing,
Kamala Harris could be seen
covering her mouth, appearing to
relay a message to someone else
through a microphone and E
piece, the VP mumbled, it's a
live broadcast. Behind her hands
flood. We really got to watch
those those areas in those
communities, so it takes quite a
while for that water to drain.
Thank you very much. She
then immediately took her hands
away from her mouth and asked a
question.
Hey, Ken, I have a question for
you. You mentioned words matter,
and I know there's a lot of
media following this briefing.
Commentators immediately blasted
the VP, accusing her of being
fed questions by AIDS through an
earpiece. Commentator Charlie
Kirk said, busted. Carmela is
heard telling an aide who is
feeding her questions that it's
a live broadcast. She then asks
the question she was presumably
given. When you realize what a
fraud this woman is, you can't
unsee it. So,
Adam Curry: so, yes, uh. Uh, if
you really look at the video,
which I did in my fork, on my 4k
screen, she's looking off to the
side of the camera, and
someone's motioning to her, or
maybe even holding up a sign for
all I know, I'm not, I'm not
into the Oh, she had a hidden
earpiece. I just, I mean, get
over yourselves. Twitter. Get
over yourselves on the hidden
earpiece thing? No, she's she's
just that dumb and how they
John C Dvorak: slide notes to
you anyway. I mean, you guys, of
course, they do it when you can
actually see them. Yes,
Adam Curry: but this was the
week where she also was doing a
town hall with a teleprompter.
And, you know, last week the
teleprompter went out and she
had a brain freeze. I mean, oh,
John C Dvorak: that was, that's
the clip. That's, that's kind of
a amusing.
Adam Curry: I don't have it. I
don't have Yeah, well,
John C Dvorak: I can just, do
you have to do clip? No, I don't
have it. I don't have it either,
but I can just say what it was.
She says, We have 32 days until
the election, and then the
teleprompter goes out. And then
she looks around two days, 32 we
got 32 days. Two or three times.
It's like an idiot. We couldn't
even, I mean, she can't even
break the third, fourth wall,
whatever you call it, and say,
Hey, teleprompter went out.
Yeah, so I don't really have
anything else to say right now,
Adam Curry: but it is amazing. I
John C Dvorak: mean, you do a
lot of things when a
teleprompter goes out. I
remember the when I was on Tech
TV. Here we go. Okay,
Adam Curry: when you do this, I
grab my coffee, I spin the
stool, I cross my legs
John C Dvorak: that long? No,
no, no, no, no.
Adam Curry: Hey, people come for
the media deconstruction. It is
a fact they stay for John's
story time. Yes, many
John C Dvorak: stories. So I'm
on Tech TV, and this is the
first time he said, because I
was a prompter jockey on that
show, because I had, I had
different writers that wrote my
copy. But once Jennifer Lavin,
my producer, started writing my
copy, she wrote in my voice, and
it was perfect. It was better
than anything I could ad lib.
That's what you that's what
Adam Curry: you want. You want
someone. You want someone who
can write for your prompter and
someone who can roll your
prompter. Yes, you
John C Dvorak: want a good
person. This is usually a
different person, yeah, but you
want somebody that rolls the
prompter and they pay attention
to what you're saying and then
they saying, and then they roll
the prompter, but, but when you
get someone who can write your
copy, I mean, I once what you
hear about people say, Well, I
write my own copy. I write my
own prompter copy. I'm always
thinking, why are you an idiot
to do that's dumb. That is dumb
because it's like a skill. It's
a real skill to write prompter
copy. It is, it is. And so you
find someone who can do it. So
they write this prompter copy,
and I got and it on when you're
doing a live read, they give you
a the sheets with the prompter
copy on it, the blue sheets,
usually, and then the prompter
copy, and you read from the
prompter and you you're supposed
to do something I've now, I got
pretty good at reading the
prompter, but I never was good
at doing the switchover, because
I've never had to do it. And so,
so the prompter and one once in
four years, four years, daily,
boom, prompter goes out, yeah.
And I'm, it's live, and I'm
going, oh, so I look down and
I'm not doing what you see these
guys do, which is what you're
supposed to do, is as you read
from the prompt you're flipping
pages, yes, so you're at the
point where you can just now you
go from the prompter and you
start reading the copy that is
written out. That was the
prompter copy. I didn't do that.
I I didn't have to. I wasn't on
the right page. It was a
complete choke. It was like, oh
my. And it was just, I'm blah
blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm
like, drop. I'm just blowing it.
Let it. It was terrible. It was
the worst experience in my all
the TV I ever done, because I
was not prepared for it, because
it never happened to me before.
And it turns out a lot of times,
I think you get until it
happens, you think you know what
you're doing, until something
goes astray. And this is what
happened with camelin, when her
prompter went out, she didn't
know what to do. And I had felt
kind of sorry for it, because it
happened to me after that
prompter, like, a year later,
went out again. But I had,
because of that mishap, I had no
problem going to the sheets, but
it was like it was the worst
experience. It's just terrible,
and You bumbling around, and you
know, it was even when the
lights went out one time, it was
easier to deal with. I'm so old,
Adam Curry: and I've told the
story before, but I'll do it
again at MTV. The way it worked
is, now I didn't have a lot of
prompt or copy, but for shows
like the top 20 video countdown,
and we did the week in rock, it
was scripted. And the way it
worked back in the day, this is
when the green screen was blue
screen. We've talked about that.
It was chroma key blue. Before
it was green. That's how old we
are. This was a conveyor belt
that had a camera pointed down
on the conveyor belt, and that
camera was the teleprompter
camera. And so they would send
me the scripts at night with a
with a car service, because the
fax machine would just be one
long roll of fax that was
completely unusable. This is
before fax machines would cut
the roll. It was the thermal
paper, and so they put the
sheets under, and then they
would roll. They would, you
know, with the controller, they
would roll this copy, which was
just printed out from the Wang.
Is anybody getting the age here,
the way, the word process the
Wang, yeah. And they would roll
it underneath. And the speed was
variable. And we had two
prompter people. One was John,
and I don't know if he's alive
anymore, and he was a challenged
guy, but he was, he was one of
these autistic people that was
so focused, and he was so good.
And sometimes there would be a
stand in for him, and I forget
her name, if it was Michelle, or
I know she was known for other
assets. She was like, everyone's
like, Yeah, let's hang out and
play foosball with the Michelle.
How, what was her name and but
she couldn't do it. And it was
just, oh no. Some people can't.
She had the wrong she would,
wouldn't keep the right pace and
everything horrible. Him anyway,
John C Dvorak: that would just
add on to that. So I would also
watch other people do their
work. And Leo Laporte was the
more interesting of the group,
because Leo and this. I never
did this. I did a little bit,
but rarely Leo would wander off
the prompter
Adam Curry: that can do that
too. I can wander off the
prompter and come back. But the
prompter guy
John C Dvorak: would go nuts,
because it's like, what am I
doing? You know, I they don't
know what to do. No.
Adam Curry: John the artist
could do it. He got it. He would
wait for,
John C Dvorak: well, that's a
rare bird, because most people,
when Leo would go off, he was
yakking about something or
others not on the prompter, just
going and going and going. And
this guy didn't know where to go
forward or backwards, or where
was he it was. And the thing
would, it would it was hilarious
to watch, and I would sometimes
think of Leo did it on purpose.
But maybe I rarely did that
Adam Curry: before we take a
break. I just wanted to salute
our many producers of no agenda
nation. They are everywhere. I
want to talk about Helene and
Milton later, because I have
some boots on the ground reports
regarding climate change and
also regarding the climate haven
that was Asheville we just have,
and this is part of the time.
We'll talk about them at the
time talents and treasure that
we want in this value for value
podcast where, obviously we need
treasure, we appreciate people
who support us financially. But
there is going to be a topic
that you know about because it's
your job. You're an expert at
it. It may be shoeing horses for
all I know, but it is your
responsibility to reach out to
us and say, Hey, I happen to
like a good example is, well,
first of all, thank you.
Everybody who said Tina Roberts
was in Mesa, Colorado, and not
Arizona.
John C Dvorak: We got a lot of
that. I also got, I also got a
lot of notes on the X rays,
moving the meteor law and very
good ones from people. The last
one, which I you weren't copied
on, just came in this morning
was this guy has all the
formulas, and he says it would
take a million years to move
this thing. With these X rays,
you can't get enough X rays. We
Adam Curry: have a lot of smart
people, and I, like the
anonymous from Ireland, I sell
Q, PCR instruments, which were
used to test for SARS, covid,
too. Oh, this, yeah, we
John C Dvorak: have to read that
note just
Adam Curry: listening to the
latest podcast regarding Trump
sending equipment to Putin back
then, the exact same instruments
Trump had access to were sold in
Russia, whether our equipment or
other brands, if Putin wanted
one, he could have gotten one
with no bother within Russia. So
I call complete BS, of course,
since the war, most companies,
including ours, have stopped
doing business. There some
lovely Russian people who I'd
met on many an occasion are out
of a job. So Woodward's book is,
of course, bullcrap. Saying, Oh,
Trump sent over equipment. No,
you could just
John C Dvorak: don't say
anything, because they'll get
mad at you. Yeah,
Adam Curry: and they're right.
Vlad, exactly. So a lot of
people sent me this, and I love
it when we have our men and
women who who are in uniform,
who serve America, the real
people who serve America
overseas and at home, when they
let everybody know it's all
right, we got your back. Hey,
you crash in the ocean during a
storm and you're floating on
your plane. We're going to pick
you up. I'm with the Coast
Guard, and I'm going to let you
know that I'm a part of no
agenda nation.
Unknown: Lieutenant Chad Paulson
was involved in that rescue, and
he joins me now. What happened
here, sir?
In the morning?
Thank you for having me
Adam Curry: in the morning.
Nothing's better than that.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: in the morning.
And it's funny, it just blows by
people, because for one thing,
it makes no sense. It's the best
part. But it's like, well, maybe
that's a greeting. I'm not sure.
Yeah. Anyway. Now the cool thing
is, when, when somebody says, in
the morning, the other person
says in the morning, well,
Adam Curry: that's, that's what
you hear on the in aviation. You
hear the pilot, and then
sometimes you'll hear the tower
reply, because this is what it
is the smartest people who make
the world run listen to this
podcast. That's just the fact I
don't know, you know, I don't
know any other and it's also
because we don't insult them by,
you know, running, would we
running ads and telling, yeah,
well, that is insult. Premium
content is behind the fire wall.
Premium content, that's my pet
peeve. Instead, I'd like to say,
in the morning to you, the man
who put the sea and the new
screw. Say hello to my friend on
the other end, the one and only
Mr.
John C Dvorak: John C's round
ship. See boosts at the ground,
feet in the air, subs in the
water, and all the Dames and
nights out there. All right,
running up cotton. Do a
Unknown: little count. Let me
see. Money, 2204
Adam Curry: at the peak, trolls
listening in
John C Dvorak: what was the
number? Again, 2204, low. It's
Adam Curry: low by 200 All
right. Well, we're glad to have
you trolls here anyway. Thank
you very much for listening at
no agenda. Dot, stream or
trollroom.io which is great
because the trolls get in there
and just roll with it. But
without those trolls, I would
have never come up with Jordache
jeans. And there's some other
insults that were in there,
which is always fun. It's always
it's not distracting
Unknown: at all. We want to say
something
Adam Curry: DoorDash Jordache.
Nothing becomes between me and
my jaw dashes. I think that was
the tagline. Oh, yeah, yeah. So
the trolls can also listen on a
modern podcast app, which,
believe me, you're gonna want to
have it the last show I people
were so mad about what? Apple
has an update. It's been three
hours, but that that's apple.
That's the whole point. We use
this pod ping technology, which
is a true technology, which is
part of podcasting 2.0 and the
modern apps, they update within
90 seconds. So when we publish,
boom, you got it. You have to
sit around. And it was the best
commercial for the modern
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people are like, you know, I got
to get off this thing, because
you're behind the times. And in
addition to that, you also do
not get an alert on Apple or
Spotify. We're not on Spotify at
all, or on Amazon or any other
app that your YouTube. You don't
get an alert when we go live.
No, you get that on the modern
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explain the whole point of time
talent and treasure, and we do
have some extra talented people
known as the no agenda artists
who are busy during the live
stream, coming up with artwork
that we can use, just for the
for the album artwork on the
show, which we've been doing way
before, even, you know, it's
been, it's been a standard
forever Apple finally caught up
a few years back. But we've been
doing this forever, and it's
great because you can use it,
you know, when we post the show
and people promote the show, and
it's interesting. And these
artists are Dutch masters, so
it's always fun to see what they
come up with. And we want to
thank now, thank you also to all
of our artists. This was the
multiple tornadoes with the
cheesecake butt on the beach,
which you said, I like it. I
said, Okay. And I got several, I
received several messages of
people saying, best artwork all
year. So,
John C Dvorak: so when you blow
it up and on like Twitter, it's
a good piece.
Adam Curry: It's gorgeous. It is
now Tom Stoffel,
John C Dvorak: there's a
cheesecake. It was overall. It
wasn't just the butt, no nice
legs, you know, just the back of
someone. Yeah, this is a good
picture. We I, I'm like, an
advocate of cheesecake, because
it's attractive, and that's what
you put it there for. Even
though you have a bunch of
people, you know, you have some
certain groups of people that
think it's exploitative. It's
not who will make Who are we
exploiting here? This is AI art.
We're not exploiting anybody.
No, who's being exploited
specifically. And
Adam Curry: I'm all for it. Now.
I want all as much slop to flow
through the stairwells of the
digital Tower of Babel as
possible. To make it unusable
and unattractive. So keep it up,
people. This is good. I'm now
all for it. More more more the
tan Stoffel, T, A, N, S, T, A,
A, F, l, all uppercase. Thank
you to the multitude of
producers who said, um, dude,
that's from science fiction
author Robert Heinlein, and it's
a theme in his writings. It is
an acronym. There ain't no such
thing as a free lunch. And we
didn't catch that,
John C Dvorak: no, not at all,
but we
Adam Curry: did now, and well,
thank you. There ain't no such
thing as a free lunch. From now
on, we'll just be tons. Stoffel,
can't help it. We appreciate it.
That was, it was a great piece.
It really was. It worked out
well. We thought it was fun. You
know, I was reading, there was
an interesting article on a
second. There was a Dutch study
that was done. Let me see, do I
have it here? Yes. Study shows
real art stimulates the brain
more than a copy. And so, and
the reason real art, so actual
art stimulates the brain more
than a
John C Dvorak: copy, it's a
copy. What? How does he define a
copy?
Adam Curry: Scientists in the
Netherlands prove that
experiencing the real art in
person stimulates the brain 10
times more than viewing a
reproduced image. And so they
took all these great Dutch
masters from no agenda, Art
Generator. But also, you know,
Vermeer and Van Gogh, Vermeer is
the one that they show in this
article, which is, you know, the
milkmaid, girl with her head
turned back, and so they, they
hooked a bunch of people up to
brain brain wave. The girl with
the pearl earring, that's the
one they they hooked up a bunch
of people to brainwave machines.
And when you're looking at the
actual art live in the museum,
your brain is stimulated 10
times more than looking at a
copy, a reproduction of it in
the museum, on the wall than the
original, which I think is
fascinating. Did
John C Dvorak: they put a
reproduction up on the wall in
the museum? Yes, they did. They
did. They did. Now that, which
brings us to another interesting
factoid. What about the artists?
I'm not sure Vermeer was one of
them, but most artists,
Velasquez for sure, uh, they had
a team of people, and they would
do a portrait of somebody.
Usually it was somebody in the
royal family, and they would be
copies. May hand it off. They
have five copies, and they were
all identical.
Adam Curry: Well that that they
did not study,
John C Dvorak: no because that
would be the same. Maybe it
should be the same because the
artist and the and the and the
and the mentees, the proteges
who did the same exact pieces,
they were taught by the same
artists, and the brush strokes
were similar. Everything was the
same, and they make these
copies. There's, there's plenty
of examples around the museums
of the world where where a piece
exists in three museums at the
same time, and they're all
original. How does that work so?
Adam Curry: Well, probably the
same. I would say that those
originals it. I think the point
is between a an original piece
of art versus the poster. The
volunteers brain waves and eye
movements were measured and
analyzed. The researchers found
that, compared to reproductions,
real art evokes a much stronger
positive response in the
precuneus, which is the part of
the brain responsible for
personal identity, memory and
consciousness, which kind of
brings me to the point that
would this, I'd like to know is,
does AI art have less of a
response than original art, even
though now that would be worth
studying. That's the I'm I've
already read
John C Dvorak: some of the art
that we've we've put up, which
is a much AI art. Yes, to that,
I much be a much
Adam Curry: be forgotten.
John C Dvorak: For example, this
particular piece by scaramonga,
who I don't know why he's
submitting anything, because he
hates us.
Adam Curry: There's another clip
being made. Yes,
John C Dvorak: there is a piece.
I mean, this is a piece that is
quite striking when you see it,
uh, especially blowed up. And I
it has a it has an effect. So I
don't know,
Adam Curry: is this some? Is
this something that's new,
that's up? No,
John C Dvorak: the his piece,
this piece we're talking about?
No, the piece with the
tornadoes, that was not
Adam Curry: Scaramanga. Oh, that
was Scaramanga, yeah, I
miscredited him. Yes. Well, I
John C Dvorak: didn't know you
miscredited. I
Adam Curry: didn't know. That's
just my mistake. I
John C Dvorak: missed. Well,
that's, you know, it doesn't
like you, so
Adam Curry: loves me. This is
this
John C Dvorak: very these, some
of these pieces have been quite
spectacular. This,
Adam Curry: this girl is the
only. AI girl he has, he's the
same girl, yeah? Well, this
John C Dvorak: yes, these guys,
they have their, theirs, with
their girl. That's, yeah, he
has, yeah, there's a number, a
couple artists have a girl and
they keep using her, yeah, yeah,
yeah. It's, it's kind of
perverted. Do you think?
Adam Curry: Thank you to all of
the artists who submitted art.
We appreciate it. Everyone,
everyone does tries, and
everyone has an equal shot. And
of course, we're happy to
critique wherever necessary.
There really wasn't all that
much. I kind of liked Dr Scott
had a hurricane buttons with
tsunamis, but compared to the
Scaramanga piece, I mean, it
was, it was just a that was a
work of art. It was a literal
work of art. Was there something
else that we liked? I don't
think so. There's Kamala
pushing. That's Darren. Kamala,
you make Darren look Darren.
Your your Kamala, AI, makes her
look too good. And that's your
problem there. It doesn't look
like her. No, it doesn't.
John C Dvorak: She needs to be
more haggard looking. That's the
key operator. Put put the
keyword in Yeah, put that word
in there. Prompt, haggard, the
prompt, by
Adam Curry: the way, we titled
The episode 1702, slop and
Hopper, which,
John C Dvorak: we got some notes
about that too.
Adam Curry: Oh, did you get a
note about slopping up writing
good enough. Oh, yeah. Oh, you
John C Dvorak: guys are deaf.
Obviously said swap for copper.
And we, I
Adam Curry: think we even
mentioned that. But, okay, yeah,
but we did
John C Dvorak: you listen and
listen? It's like you listen
once, one person, one of our
female listeners, just you
dummies. You heard it. You say
you listen 10 times. It was very
clearly swapping for copper. Did
she
Adam Curry: start to know it off
with I'm surprised. I'm
disappointed. Yeah, listen, it
only took me two minutes to look
that up. We're doing stuff on
the fly. I looked it up. I knew
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was texting with her, and they
were kind of freaked out by the
reporting, of course, and they
were still there, and they
couldn't, they couldn't get out
because the the highway was all
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Shout out to Sir Don from
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Thank
Adam Curry: you very much. Mike,
here's for the girls. Get him
out of jail.
Unknown: You've got karma.
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Soon I'll be able to use my Bao
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John C Dvorak: Casey. Casey
Conrad in Pickering, Ontario,
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Jensen, thank you for your
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robots, being in my 50s, now, I
wanted to create and share
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I would also like to pursue this
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Thank you kindly in advance,
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Adam Curry: you want just
classic PCs. I watched a YouTube
video last night, did you know
that the they've brought back
the Commodore 64 called the
Commodore 64x and it's no and
it's exactly the same casing. It
has the same keyboard, but it
has like, I think, and get it
loaded with Linux. But it's, you
have to see this thing they've
done all the sound effects. I
mean, it's, it's mind blowing.
You can load all the old games.
It has emulators on it is really
stunning. Yeah, real just
because the guy brought up
geeky, old, nerdy stuff. It's
like, I need to get there you
go. Think I need to get one of
these. Dan Richmond is an Al
ashua. Doesn't sound right.
Alachua. Alachua, there you go.
Alachua. It's in Florida.
$200.66 notes sent to Adam. I
looked it up. Yes, indeed.
Wanted to add some context on
your coverage of Howard Stern. I
was a longtime superfan around
2013 you made a purposeful
shift. Went from a small crew,
couple of writers, to an army of
staffers. And we were talking
about this on the previous
episode, dozens of writers,
apparently about 77 zero. What?
Yes. So he said, Fear rid of
millions. Feared cancel culture
and wanted to capture the MSNBC
crowd nuked his audience. Guys
like me went from being devout
super fans to hating him. Then
covid Utterly melted his brain.
I cannot think of any pop
culture figure who destroyed
their legacy like this. Now he
has, he has a podcast called heb
and the goy hebengoi.com and he
sent me an episode, which he
actually did with the Goys wife,
because the goy was off doing
something. So was he Ben the
shiksa, and they were both
massive fans of stern, and it
was a very interesting, good
deconstruction. And I'll give
you my takeaway, since we were
talking about it, I think stern
always wanted to be like a Leno,
or like, you know, Jimmy Kimmel.
He wanted to be super famous. He
wanted to be with all of the
celebrities, and he didn't
realize that having the ragtag
bunch of idiots and the crew
that he had was actually the the
it was the beauty of the show.
And when he had the opportunity
and had the money, and that's
what part of that, you know,
that whole video that got leaked
out, he actually was trying to
put that together. That's why he
got all these writers, and he
didn't realize that that was the
appeal. And he's always been a
coward. And then, you know,
covid, just, I agree, melted his
brain. And you had a, you had
part of a theory about that.
John,
John C Dvorak: yes, well, his
wife, because you've brought up,
we went back and forth, a little
email exchange things we do.
It's one of the rare things we
can we do communicate on
occasion. And you said, Well,
his wife and I, and I looked her
up, and she's like, she has,
she's a cat lady, massive,
massive cat lady. She's rescued
1000 cats, and so, so I had to
conclude that there's, there's
no way that the two of them
don't have a case of
toxoplasmosis. Bing, boom, done,
which is what you you will get
from cats. And it's this, it's a
disease. It's a very strange
parasite that you can get rid of
with. I think ivermectin will
clear it up. I'm not sure the
Oh, the irony. That would be
very ironic, yeah. But it causes
all kinds of anomalies, and it
also affects the way you think.
And for example, it's known that
it probably exists in nature
because, because mice who run
into cat feces, that's where it
comes from, will get
toxoplasmosis, and they begin to
not fear cats, which makes them
easier to catch. Oh, so it's
like a kind of a one of nature's
weird little tricks. It's
Adam Curry: a self destructive
virus, which is exactly what he
has. So,
John C Dvorak: so I just think
that toxoplasmosis may be in
play here, which because it just
seems like there's something's
wrong,
Adam Curry: yes, and so, but he
been the goy.com it's worth a
watch if you are a super fan and
we're disappointed they they lay
it all out. It's an hour and a
half. What can I say? Tina's
hiking.
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out. We get people in the mouth.
They're eating the dogs. Shut
up. Shut
Adam Curry: up. I want to you
know, of course, we've had
these, these horrific
hurricanes. I have a little
follow up on what happened in
western North Carolina. Duke
Energy is the big provider up
there, the same Duke Energy, who
has left our producer, Bruce 72
in the cold, is now below
freezing at night in the
mountains. Is 17 days. He needs
some power. People. He has he
has water and he has food. So
he's okay, but it is. They're
not being served up there. And
it turns out Duke Energy is in
charge of more than just the
electricity. They're also in
charge of a lot of the dams and
the lakes, and they're now being
accused of some monkey business
from
Unknown: the Catawba River in
Charlotte. My heart is just
fractured
to look out shoals lake in
Claremont smells
like rotting fish, this sour
smelling, and it's just it's
hard to breathe.
Two communities, 40 miles apart,
are connected by water. Both are
at the mercy of the utility that
controls it. Each shares their
own sense of extreme loss and
anger.
Duke Energy fell asleep at the
wheel. But actually, they didn't
fall asleep. They were wide
awake. They didn't do what they
should have done. In
between the two sits Lake Norman
during Helene Duke Energy
records show the water at the
lakes directly above and below
Lake Norman increased well above
their licensed maximum levels,
increasing by roughly 12 feet
compared to the much larger Lake
Norman, which barely and only
briefly crested above its
maximum rising only about three
feet. The communities where lake
levels rose well above maximum
levels are places where the
median household incomes are
much lower than the Lake Norman
community Duke Energy has said
the utility started moving water
through its 11 lake system on
the Tuesday before Helene hit
but won't release specifics,
telling us the flooding at
smaller lakes like lookout
shoals and mountain Island and
downstream was unpreventable due
to the historic amount of
rainfall. In a statement, the
utility told us lakes are
managed as an integrated system,
not for the benefit of a single
lake, the utility noted it
operated its lakes, including
Lake Norman, to reduce the
impacts of flooding for lake and
river neighbors, upstream and
downstream, prior to during and
after the storm. Adding Duke
Energy is confident its hydro
operations team manage this
event as effectively as possible
to help mitigate flooding
impacts for all lake and river
neighbors and the public.
Adam Curry: Obviously, a local
report,
John C Dvorak: um, sounds like
AI, no,
Adam Curry: no. It's, it's uh,
W, n, C, W, I think you know, it
wouldn't surprise me, seeing as
when, when we were in Austin and
the snowpocalypse hit, and the
first thing I did is unplug the
east side of I 35 and the former
New York banker, they had power
never went out. So, yeah, I
think it's possibly true that
they take care of their own over
there, boots on the ground from
the climate Haven. We know the
climate Haven. We had a clip on
the last show, if you recall,
oh, it's a climate Haven. It's
amazing. This happened here. Our
producer says in Episode 1702,
you played a clip from MSNBC
that referred to the western
North Carolina area as a climate
Haven, credit where creditors
do. I believe MSNBC is correct
insofar as this is exactly what
some people who live there,
specifically in the Asheville
area, believe my father, sister
and brother in law live in
Asheville while on vacation with
my family this past summer, my
brother in law, like all
insecure liberals, couldn't
resist steering the conversation
to politics and climate change
to seek some validation.
Specifically, he talked about
how he loved Asheville, not just
for its progressive ideals of
microbreweries, but for how he
felt safe there from the
climate, he actually made the
statement and quote, everywhere
else will be burning, but
Asheville be one of the last
remaining habitable places.
Meanwhile, my father recently,
what? Yeah. I know, yeah.
Meanwhile, my father recently
said to me he believes, without
evidence, that humanity. He only
has 30 years left to live. He's
very Oh yeah. He is very sincere
and clearly distressed by this
knowledge of impending doom.
Asheville is not good for mental
health people. All right. Thank
you. Producer for Yeah.
John C Dvorak: I think he's
right, yeah,
Adam Curry: I agree. Well, she
Ville as a she Ville, yes. So I
have the NOAA prediction from
May of 2024 which I'll just
read. The headline, NOAA
predicts. This is from their
website. NOAA predicts above
normal 2024 Atlantic hurricane
season. Well, this was not an
Atlantic hurricane, and so far
it's been quite low, boots on
the ground, from our producer,
from a home insurance product
manager, privy to some pretty
solid data over the years. As
you can imagine, do we have the
best producers in the universe?
Or what storms are not causing
more damage denominated in
dollars, when you adjust for
inflation and home values. You
played the report last show
admitting storms are not more
frequent, the total damage in
dollars is also not rising, and
it suggests pretty strongly they
are also not getting more deadly
or intense. Hurricane Andrew in
1992 remains the highest dollar
cost hurricane for inflation
adjusted however, he says fire
damage is increasing in drier
climates. Obviously changes in
fire management over time are a
factor. So there you go. They're
just jacking your rates for no
good reason, because it's not
actually getting more expensive
for them. Adjusted for
inflation, yeah, they're
John C Dvorak: going for the
profits now that all of this, if
you can, if you can fool them,
take the money, take the money
Adam Curry: and run them. All of
this, of course, does not
change. Or why would it the
climate nut jobs in Washington
state for jumping on the
bandwagon. Oh, oh, we've got to
do more.
Unknown: It is difficult to
compare a hurricane with a
Pineapple Express, the exception
of the rain and a lot of
we're thinking and sending our
positive thoughts to our
neighbors in the southeast
of the country.
It was a topic at a meeting of
UW climate scientists and state
leaders who authored a new
Washington climate resilience
strategy point to the record
Nooksack flooding of 2021 as an
example of how warmer weather
has increased. Rain intensity.
Is there a parallel there with
what we're talking about in the
northwest and what's happening
in the southeast there
is, you know, we the oceans are
getting warmer. Same thing
happening there. Warmer air
holds more water. Dr,
Crystal. Raymond is a UW
researcher who helped craft a
national assessment of climate
change, noting that Florida has
been dramatically impacted, but
this state has its own issues,
laid out in the strategic
report, with a decrease in
snowpack and a projected rise in
sea levels. It's
just a window into the future
when that kind of event, that
kind of all those catastrophic
consequences are happening more
often right now. Ontologist
Guillaume Moshe says Milton's
impact in the legislatively
mandated resilience plan shows
the need for action here, from
aid for tribal communities to
move out of flood plains to
building new infrastructure.
There are suggestions to address
some of them in the next
legislative session.
I think we do have an
opportunity to steer out of the
way and to reduce those impacts.
The events in Florida a reminder
that Washington has its own set
of climate concerns just around
the bend.
Adam Curry: Rather climate more
money, more money, more money.
Meanwhile, the Sahara Desert,
old lakes and rivers are coming
back to life. You seen those
pictures? No, oh, oh, it's, it's
outrageous.
John C Dvorak: It already sounds
like AI. No, no, no, no. This
Adam Curry: is, this is real.
Here, the
Unknown: Sahara, the world's
largest hot desert, has been hit
by heavy rainfall, turning the
sand dunes into a scene of blue
lagoons and nourishing some of
its most trot stricken regions.
A river that has been dry for
decades have come back to life
after the rainfall.
There's even a lake that has
been dry for 50 years named Lake
koriki, between the Zagora and
Tata regions, so the old desert
lakes will come back to life.
Yes.
Adam Curry: So did you know that
there were desert lakes?
John C Dvorak: I know now, yeah.
So there was 50 years, if they
were 50 years ago, what was
causing that
Adam Curry: climate change? I
don't know. You know, stinky
cars, horrible cars and in the
Mediterranean, I pulled this
clip only for the very last end.
This is a guy who's checking out
the underwater vegetation in the
Mediterranean.
Unknown: Gerwin Gretchen gets
ready for his next dive. He's
explored the waters in Croatia's
valsalina Bay many times
already. The Austrian marine
biologist first started diving
here 35 years ago.
I can
say with certainty that the
first 20 or maybe 25 years since
I first came here, there were
hardly any changes. But the last
six to 10 years, there has been
an incredible amount of change.
Now there are changes almost
every month above
the water, everything is like
it's always been, blue skies,
crystal clear water and people
relaxing by the sea, but
underwater, it's clear what
Gretchen means. Until a few
years ago, the bay was home to
seagrass meadows, habitat for
hundreds of underwater species.
They're known as the lungs of
the sea, and key to maintaining
the ecological balance today,
Val Selena Bay is an underwater
desert, no vegetation, no sea
grass meadows. The marine
habitat has vanished in just a
few years with dramatic
consequences. Biodiversity
loss means we humans are in
danger of suffocating in our own
filth because nature is no
longer able to regenerate what
we have polluted.
Adam Curry: We're in danger of
suffocating in our own filth.
You filthy, nasty people eating
meat, whatever you're doing, you
know, the lat, the latest thing
in trying to stop the impact of
of cattle is feeding him red
seaweed
John C Dvorak: to reduce
poisonous stuff.
Adam Curry: I was it poisonous?
Unknown: Well, I mean, the
John C Dvorak: red tide is this
algae?
Adam Curry: Yes,
Unknown: I don't know red
seaweed. I
John C Dvorak: don't know what
red seaweed is.
Unknown: One solution to this
turf problem could come from the
surf.
The seaweed is somewhat of the
holy grail of climate change in
terms of solutions from the
ocean. Dr Jen
Smith is researching how this
species of seaweed called
asparagopsis, taxi, for Miss,
can stop all that burping
once it is fed to the livestock.
That simply prevents methane
from ever being formed, and
therefore the cows don't burp
that methane out of their mouth.
One study
found that adding just a tiny
amount of this red seaweed to a
cow's diet reduced its methane
emissions between 40 and 98%
now, Dr Smith is partnering with
an Australian company to scale
up production.
The goal is not totally produce
it. You know how to do that, but
only do it more efficiently.
Steve Miller's company ch four
global makes a red seaweed based
feed additive called methane
tamer. It's already being fed to
cattle in Australia with plans
to grow it worldwide. The goal
is to perfect the process of
growing asparagopsis in outdoor
grow ponds that can be built
anywhere with access to ocean
water.
We give people the choice to
say, Do I eat that plant based
approach, or do I eat that meat
based approach that is now
dramatically lowered its carbon
Miller expects to see low
methane beef in US supermarkets
by the beginning of next year.
Adam Curry: That doesn't sound
like the beef is going to be
very tasty.
John C Dvorak: Low methane beef
probably tastes like fish. Can
you imagine, never fry a some
beef and a cast iron skillet
that you cooked fish in? Oh, no,
Adam Curry: that's a no, no.
John C Dvorak: You end up with a
very the flavor is just not
ruined. With something you
ruined, it's ruined,
Adam Curry: ruined, ruin that
John C Dvorak: can be fixed. How
about playing this? Then are you
gonna talk about beef? Let's
talk about bird flu.
Adam Curry: Oh, we're back.
Unknown: Avian influenzas was
first detected in California's
dairy cattle a little born then
a month ago, and now it's been
confirmed to more than 80 of the
state's dairy herds and in three
dairy workers. Kerry Klein from
member station kvpr has more
dairy
workers are being equipped with
more PPE like face shields and
disposable booties, farms are
also restricting people and
vehicles on site. Trisha Steve
or Blatt LARP is with the Farm
Bureau in Tulare County, the
country's largest milk producer.
She says the costs of these
precautions are trickling down
beyond farms. She cites a cattle
hauler whose job is to transport
the livestock from place to
place. He's
currently seeing two thirds less
income for his employees, the
drivers, and yet he still has
all that overhead and payroll
that he's trying to meet.
Another hit to California's
dairy industry. Even those
cattle that fully recover from
the virus may produce less milk.
Adam Curry: Can't win. Now this
is also stupid. They're just
filling air time at this point.
There was an interesting twist
to the Tick Tock saga, which is
ongoing, which what
John C Dvorak: saga we
discussing? Well,
Adam Curry: of course, we still
have. Uh, they have a deadline
coming up, I think when they
have January, yeah, yeah. So
there's deadline coming up where
they have to sell to an American
entity. At the same time, 14,
uh, attorney generals in 14
different states are suing them
over harming children. And now
some documents were not properly
redacted, and CBS got a hold of
him. Tiktok
Unknown: executives knew how
damaging their app was to young
users, according to legal
documents, we were never
supposed to see CBS. Jo Ling
Kent reports tonight on these
secret internal communications,
just days after multiple states
sued Tiktok for allegedly
designing the app to addict
children. New details have
emerged about how they say the
company does it in this lawsuit
filed by the state of Kentucky,
sections of the complaint were
not properly redacted, as first
reported by Kentucky Public
Radio and NPR. Kentucky's
lawsuit claims Tiktok knows all
it takes to hook. An average
user is viewing 260 videos as
short as eight seconds, thus in
under 35 minutes.
John C Dvorak: What was that
number? Listen
Adam Curry: again. He's lawsuit
Unknown: claims Tiktok knows all
it takes to hook an average user
is viewing 260 videos as short
as eight seconds, thus, in under
35 minutes, an average user is
likely to become addicted to the
platform.
Adam Curry: How about that?
John C Dvorak: Wait a minute.
Very few eight without
calculation was based on eight,
all videos being eight seconds.
No, no, no. People to get to 35
minutes at 260 Yes,
Adam Curry: but I think people
typically look at a video and
after eight seconds, they swipe
up to the next one. I think
that's what they're talking
about. I
John C Dvorak: don't think so.
Hey, I didn't say that. You just
made it up. No,
Adam Curry: I'm interpreting the
CBS News report. I'm not making
anything up, and
Unknown: a feature designed to
encourage teens to take a break
after 60 minutes on the app,
quote does not actually impose a
screen time limit. Instead, its
goal improving public trust via
media coverage, Tiktok allegedly
knew its time management tools
reduced usage by only 90
seconds.
Adam Curry: Here's the thing, I
don't believe that they're
hooking teenagers. I think
they're hooking full blown
adults, because that's all I
see.
John C Dvorak: Okay, I watch
tick tock videos, yeah,
Adam Curry: but not a whole
watch. You don't end of a maybe
you don't, you don't use the
app.
John C Dvorak: No, of course, I
don't know, but I want that. I
don't hold on a second big what
would I use the app on? No,
Adam Curry: I know. Yes, we know
you're the best. John C Dvorak,
I have no, I
John C Dvorak: got no saying
I'm, I'm reason. I'm a
reasonable person. I guess I've
seen the light. I know where the
phones belong, yes,
Adam Curry: but I'm, what I'm
saying is, this is the app that
is designed to keep you engaged,
and if you don't swipe up, it
swipes up automatically. This.
None of this happens on your on
the website, so you are not
going to become addicted.
Although,
John C Dvorak: of watching 260
videos, that's a lot. I don't
think I've watched totally, and
we've been doing the show, and
I've been using tick tock videos
now for a couple of years. I
still don't think I've gotten to
260
Adam Curry: No, but you're
you're not the target market.
They're not trying to addict
you. That guy's gonna addict
everybody. That guy's hopeless.
No, you're on a web browser.
You're no good. You're no good
as a follow up. It's really
Unknown: frustrating to know
that Tiktok had information
internally from their own
research that suggested that
their app was causing harm in
particular ways, and that they
chose not to act on that
information.
No
the Kentucky complaint has since
I mean, they
John C Dvorak: chose not. Let's,
let's back up to the early days
of the Internet and these news
organizations that I because I
wrote for a number of them. And
you write for these guys and you
say, Well, I'm doing an article
that this would be, I could name
names, but just all of them were
this way, all of them, you'd
write something and say, Where's
this? You put a link in there,
because you're trying to explain
something, and, you know, boom,
you put a link. No, you can't
you. You can't do that. You
can't link out of the site,
because if people link out of
the site, then they're not going
to come back, which is no,
factually incorrect. It's
factually incorrect, but that's
what everyone thought. And so
you couldn't link out Forbes
magazine, was one of them, and
you couldn't. No, no, no, Mom,
no, no, no, no, you don't. No,
no, no. You got to keep them on
the site. So they want to keep
them on the site. I mean, this
was there was You're right. They
were wrong about the about their
analysis, but how is. That
different than wanting to keep
you on the site. Every news
organization and Tiktok wanting
to keep you on the site, tell me
exactly what the difference is.
Adam Curry: I have no words.
John C Dvorak: No, I just asked.
Yes. No,
Adam Curry: this is no
different. It's no different.
But apps are totally intended to
keep you in the app
continuously. That's,
John C Dvorak: again, well,
there's
Adam Curry: the difference is.
The difference is the app is
doing a lot more than a website.
The website has a cookie, but
the app knows if you're walking,
if you're laying down, it, you
know it may be listening. I mean
all the EULA stuff that you
approved Yes,
John C Dvorak: using your
contact list and opening the
camera Yes, exactly. The
Kentucky
Unknown: complaint has since
been resealed and the Attorney
General declined our request for
an interview in a statement,
Tiktok called NPR highly
irresponsible for publishing
this information, adding the
lawsuit cherry picks misleading
quotes and takes outdated
documents out of context to
misrepresent our commitment to
community safety. The Kentucky
lawsuit also alleges Tiktok own
research found that compulsive
usage correlates with a slew of
negative mental health effects
like loss of analytical skills,
memory formation, contextual
thinking, conversational depth,
empathy and increased anxiety. I
John C Dvorak: believe that,
well, you have to go
empirically. Yes, it seems to be
something's causing what you
what that description that those
symptoms are caused by
something. Let's
Adam Curry: listen to that list
again. The
Unknown: Kentucky lawsuit also
alleges Tiktok own research
found that compulsive usage
correlates with a slew of
negative mental health effects,
like loss of analytical skills,
memory formation, contextual
thinking, conversational depth,
empathy and increased anxiety.
Adam Curry: Let's put this to
the test with a with a man on
the street piece that France 24
did as and this is, this is
real. This is really
interesting. They couldn't find
bigger idiots than these people.
They did a report over the
influence of AI and deep fakes,
how it looms large over the US
presidential race. So they, so
they, they play one, you know,
the Mr. Reagan, he does a lot of
these parody ads and stuff.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: he's got somebody
working in his organization
that's putting together good, a
lot of AI stuff.
Adam Curry: And he even puts on
them parody. I mean, I've seen
it run down, says parody. So
they take one of these, don't
tell people, is parody, and they
go out to Washington, DC and
show this to people. And these
are people, tourists in DC, who
are kind of mulling around
outside the White House. Listen
to this.
Unknown: This campaign app,
posted by Elon Musk, has over
136 million views, but it's
actually a fake made with
artificial intelligence.
So if you criticize anything I
say you're both sexist and
racist. Joe taught me rule
number one, carefully hide your
toes.
It perfectly captures Kamala
Harris's voice and likeness. But
Musk failed to clarify that the
video was fake when he shared it
on his social media platform X,
he simply says, This is amazing.
The YouTuber Mr. Reagan, created
the video and posted it on his
channel. The fervent Trump
supporter claims the videos are
parodies and are not meant to be
taken seriously. At the
end of the day, everybody who's
complaining that this is
indistinguishable from real life
and people are going to be
tricked. Either have are
Adam Curry: very low IQ
themselves, or who are watching
too much Tiktok have very
Unknown: little faith in people
to be a little bit skeptical.
But is it so easy to determine
that the videos are
Adam Curry: fake? Now listen
carefully to the three subjects
they've chosen for this report.
We
Unknown: asked Americans if they
could tell the difference.
What do you think she sure knew
a lot of information about being
someone being senile, and didn't
come forward straight away.
This is a fake video.
Are you able to spot it right
away? I'm not. It might be my
age. Somebody used
her voice. And
what about you?
Yeah, I think that's all.
I don't know what they're trying
to are they advertise. Can't
really tell whether the news
clip or video clip is for them
or against them. The
video clearly causes confusion.
What? And it's not the only AI
content duping social media
users
Adam Curry: so they get an old
lady. Who says, I'm not too
sure. Maybe it's my age. They
get two people who say it's
fake, and then some whack job
gay guy who's like, just put me
on here. And then she says,
clearly, it confuses everybody,
this is bull crap. It's total
what horse crap this is, yeah,
John C Dvorak: yeah. I'm
surprised you played it, because
it doesn't back up your basic
thesis. Well, to to
Adam Curry: to complete the
segment. Thank you. Producer,
anonymous, Hi, Adam. Just for
your personal enjoyment, I spend
some of my free time on outlier.
Ai, it's a platform that pays
humans to train AI. I found I
received the best feedback from
my human reviewers on my
training of the AI when I use
Gemini AI to assist my training.
Entropy at its finest. I love
that training.
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's it's
definitely headed in that
Adam Curry: direction. It is, it
is. It can't happen fast enough.
I'm
John C Dvorak: very It won't
happen as fast as you hope. No,
I
Adam Curry: know, but I but a
girl can dream.
John C Dvorak: So at least this
field, what can I do? One
international news story, so we
get it out of the way. You can
do whatever you want. You can
do. Let's do Israel versus
Macron. I just think this has
been going on for a while. We
haven't played these clips yet.
You're
Unknown: right. Powerful new
explosions rocked Beirut's
southern suburbs tonight, as
Israel expands its bombardment
of the Hezbollah and Hamas
militant groups in Lebanon
earlier, Israel struck a
Palestinian refugee camp in the
North for the first time,
killing a Hamas commander. 1000s
of people in Lebanon continue to
flee the widening conflict in
the region. Palestinians along a
key corridor there are facing
new Israeli evacuation orders as
air strikes continue. Meanwhile,
French President Emmanuel Macron
is calling for a halt to arms
deliveries to Israel for its war
in Gaza and pierce Eleanor
Beardsley reports, Macron says
Lebanon can't become a new Gaza.
In
an interview on French radio,
Macron said a political solution
is the only way to bring peace.
Macrons appeal comes as Israel
intensifies its invasion of
Lebanon, as it tries to weaken
Hezbollah Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu quickly
responded, bristling at macron's
comments. Today,
Israel is defending itself on
seven fronts against the enemies
of civilization. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Well, what caught
my attention on that one was
what Netanyahu said, Seven. I'll
ask you, what are the seven
fronts?
Adam Curry: Let me see, we have
Gaza, we have Syria,
John C Dvorak: we have who?
Well, wait, wait, that's not a
front the Golan Heights.
Adam Curry: I think I thought
that's Lebanon, no, no. Lebanon,
okay,
John C Dvorak: well, let's Well,
I just put up say, Okay, you
give me love.
Adam Curry: You give me two. I'm
giving you later two. Okay,
Lebanon, three. Oh, Houthis,
four, four. I it's not a front,
but you're gonna have to give
him Iran, because they are
shooting the rockets. Five,
five. Canada, Canada is six.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: find me two more
Brazil.
Adam Curry: I'm let me think.
John C Dvorak: What's he saying
when he says seven fronts this
Adam Curry: bullcrap was Yemen
is does Yemen count? Or is that
now, Houthis, the Houthis West
Bank? No, not really. Jordan,
Jordan, of Jordan's piece? No,
of course,
John C Dvorak: they're buddies.
Egypt's the same way.
Adam Curry: Kyiv, Ukraine. I
mean, I'm out. I'm out. I don't
know.
John C Dvorak: I gave you two
extra ones. I mean, come on.
Very good,
Adam Curry: very good question.
I do not know. Maybe because
America controls Israel, maybe
he's just talking like an
American,
John C Dvorak: it's need a
Kamala, exactly. And Biden,
that'd be the seven boom. And
Adam Curry: Biden, there's your
other fronts.
John C Dvorak: Okay, part two of
that clip,
Unknown: he included the
occupied West Bank captured by
Israel in 1967 as one of those
fronts. Netanyahu said all
civilized countries should be
standing with Israel. His
message to Macron, shame on you.
It's
Adam Curry: getting a little
hard when you hear this
particular construction or
deconstruction of the Israeli
plan about Gaza London. Let's
Unknown: bring in Aaron
breckman, the senior teaching
fellow at the Department of War
studies at King's College
London. Great to have you on the
program this evening. Great to
talk to you, Aaron. First of
all, I know you are. Former IDF
soldier as well. I think you
served, am I right to say back
in 1982 in the Lebanon conflict?
So your context and analysis
very important this evening.
Just give me your understanding
of what's going on in the north
of Gaza right now.
What the Israelis are trying to
do in the northern part of the
Gaza Strip is to empty it,
basically to send the citizens
who are there. We are talking
about 350,000 to 400,000 to the
south. It is a straightforward
ethnic cleansing. The aim, say
the Israelis, is to separate
between the good guys and the
5000 bad guys, the Hamas
combatants or terrorists and so.
So this is what they are doing,
trying to push the citizens of
Gallia, in all this area, to the
south in order to fight against
in the people of Hamas last year
there. Yeah. So
Adam Curry: send all the
civilians down south, 350,000
and then bomb the 5000 gun. They
got to be terrorists. They got
to be they got to be the bad
guys. I, you know, someone sent
me a a new interview with
Michael Hudson. You know, we've
played the clips of him before.
Don't remember? Yeah, he's the
economist, and he was in, he was
in the war college, and did a
lot of consulting for Brzezinski
and all those guys back in the
day. And he has this, I'm gonna
clip it for Thursday. He has a
very interesting analysis of how
the US, since we can't really,
you know, we don't, you can't
reinstitute a draft in America,
people will revolt. You can't
get elected if you say, oh,
let's have a draft. No one's
going to elect you as president
or or any representative.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, just have
to up the ante for volunteers,
right? You
Adam Curry: can't use nukes
because that's mutually assured
destruction. But we still have
this, this neocon, maybe
neoliberal. We need to go after
the oil. We want all the re we
want all the resources. It's
still the same a holes who want
all the resources. So Israel is
perfect, because they will
fight, and, you know, they fight
ideologically. They like, you
know, we hate these guys. We'll
go kill them, and some of us
that will get killed, and it
comes, just comes down to
terrorism, basically, and that
the Israelis are stooge and we
send them everywhere,
John C Dvorak: or stooge? Yeah,
Adam Curry: I know half of the
audience, like, No man, the Jews
control everything.
Unknown: Senator, okay,
yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fine. Of
course,
John C Dvorak: it's actually not
them. Most of the audience that
thinks that way. They really
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John C Dvorak: hurricanes, yeah.
He just says, use you. Just used
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Unknown: Units.
Days, it's like a party, and
Adam Curry: at this point in the
in the show, we like to see what
we're going to play at the end
of show as our ISO, I think I
went first last time.
John C Dvorak: Okay, you want me
to go first? Is what you're
indicating here.
Adam Curry: Yes, I'm indicating
that. All right. Well, I
John C Dvorak: got three. Okay,
the first one is a change of
pace type of thing. Maybe it'll
work. Maybe it won't. This is
the laugh. Okay, the laugh.
Interesting in the show idea.
Don't
Adam Curry: you think maybe,
maybe, maybe,
John C Dvorak: okay, then we got
Park.
Unknown: You hit it out of the
park.
Adam Curry: I like it. That's
not bad. And clean, yeah, it's
very clean. It's clean. We like
clean. And then, wow,
Unknown: wow. And, wow, wow.
Okay,
Adam Curry: so far, wow, when,
wow, wow, is leading. I have
three. There's the black guy.
Unknown: I just love them.
They're lying.
Adam Curry: I don't, I don't I
don't think anyone can Wow And
wow, wow. I think wow and wow,
wow takes the cake. All right,
you got it once again. Good job,
everybody. Now it's time for
everybody's favorite moment of
the show, John's Tip of the Day.
And sometimes,
John C Dvorak: Okay, I gotta, I
forgot to load this up, but I
have to say I got a bunch of
feedback on the last tip. And I
want to, I want to. I
Adam Curry: thought people liked
it. I thought people liked that
tip. I saw people posting on x
about it, yeah,
John C Dvorak: yeah. But the
problem is that with that tip is
that there was a I could have
topped it with something that's
a little more close to home,
which is that apparently, Steve
Gibson,
Adam Curry: oh, he has software.
He's always has some software.
He has
John C Dvorak: a free software
that specifically for this
product, for this purpose. Oh, I
didn't, Oh, didn't really. Yeah,
and so I wanted to tip that, and
I just got to get the name of
it. I don't have it on my I
forgot to print it out. But it's
a, I think if you go to his
website, Steven Gibson,
whatever, Steve,
Adam Curry: can anybody? Can
anybody help us out real quick
in the trolls probably find it.
So it does the exact same thing
by by making sure that
John C Dvorak: you're that
you're the
Adam Curry: drive is real,
grc.com
John C Dvorak: Steve Gibson, I
hear us.
Adam Curry: I hear grc.com is
what's being yeah,
John C Dvorak: that's, that
would be his website. Yes. Okay,
yeah. So go to valid drive.
That's
Adam Curry: the name of it.
Valid drive, valley, Valley li
drive, oh, Valley drive, Valley
drive, the
John C Dvorak: valid drive,
valid, if it's valid. So anyway,
so I wanted to do that. And, you
know, since I've been backing
off on some of these, because
this newer, and it does, you
know, the other one is, kind of
is still floating around, but
this would probably be better,
better way to go. That's your
tip. Oh, that's
Adam Curry: the tip for today.
John C Dvorak: Yeah.
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Tim, weird is not the word, but
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Coach's policy on covid was just
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