October 31st, 2024 • 3h 34m
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John C Dvorak: Where's the joy?
Unknown: Adam curry.
John C Dvorak, it's Thursday,
October
Adam Curry: 31 2024 this is your
award winning give our nation
media assassination episode
1708,
Unknown: this is no agenda.
We're voting
Adam Curry: early and
broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas hill country here
in FEMA Region, number six in
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry and
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're all
saying, Bring back the whoopee
cushion. I'm John C Dvorak
Bucha. In the morning,
Adam Curry: I don't think any of
us are saying that at all. Yeah,
no one wants the whoopee cushion
back. I still have one probably,
but they after a while, if you
haven't used them for a while,
then the data work,
John C Dvorak: yeah,
Adam Curry: then the ends get
frayed and it gets in splits and
doesn't doesn't vibrate well
enough. Do the kids these days
even know what a whoopee
cushion? No,
John C Dvorak: this is the
reason it should be brought
back. It's one of the greatest
gags in the world. It is a good
one. Kids find a whoopee cushion
and learn how to use it
correctly.
Adam Curry: There must Oh, oh,
hold on a second. What is the
correct way to use a whoopee
cushion? John C Dvorak, expert,
of all things, you
John C Dvorak: you pull it a
share for somebody. Say here you
can sit down. And it just says
before they sit down, you toss
the whoopee cushion under them.
So as they sit, they make the
farting sound and this, and
everyone gets a huge laugh on
Adam Curry: it. Oh, see, I
always thought you need to put
it under like a cushion the
chair that has a cushion on it.
John C Dvorak: No, you want to
throw it. You want to do it a
surprise attack.
Adam Curry: Hey, this is a
parents this is a good one for
your kids. You know how parents
love to terrorize their kids and
put it on Instagram? Believe me,
it's a horrible thing. You know
what the latest is? The latest
is the parent is in the bathroom
and calls the kid and says, Oh,
I'm out of toilet paper. Come,
bring me some toilet paper. And
these are four year olds. The
kid comes up, and then the
parent, usually, the dad,
surprise, surprise has some
chocolate, some melted chocolate
on his finger. And the,
John C Dvorak: I have not seen
this joke, the
Adam Curry: kids are, you know,
they're gagging, they're crying,
they're screaming. It's the
meanest thing. I think you
should try it with Theodore. I
don't think so. It's dying,
right?
John C Dvorak: It sounds funny,
but it's like, yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. Tina was
showing me that, Oh, she got
banned again. She's banned again
from posting for five days.
John C Dvorak: She should be
banned, and so I said, obviously
she is a troublemaker.
Adam Curry: Well, she's not safe
for the community, according to
the message.
John C Dvorak: I said, what
community is this? Well, I
Adam Curry: said, What did you
do? She says, I really don't
know. Said the last thing I did,
and here comes Zara, which is a
clothing manufacturer. They had
an ad, and the ad was, and this
happens all the time. The ad was
for an item, and she's like, Oh,
I think I will, I will order
this item. So the ads working.
She clicks, and it's like, not
available, out of stock. And so
she says, Why are you doing
this? This is deceptive
advertising. And then she got
banned. She messed with the
primal forces of nature.
John C Dvorak: She made she
messed with, this was a paid
Adam Curry: advertisement, yes,
on the Instagram, yes.
John C Dvorak: She She condemned
it, and then she got banned. To
Adam Curry: that, yeah, and then
she got banned. So we presume
that's what. How
John C Dvorak: long is it gonna
demand? For five days. Yeah, so
she'll be, yes, the shakes.
She'll be up
Adam Curry: and running by
Monday, just in time for
election. And everything took a
beautiful turn. How do you like
my garbage stuff? It took a
beautiful turn. Everybody's
John C Dvorak: we're gonna miss.
This is this election comes to
fruition. It's going to be
sorely missed. Yeah,
Adam Curry: this was just the
sequence of events where we and
we'll get into the Hitler rally
with the garbage comment, and
then Biden with the garbage
comment, and then Trump taking
and running in with it, with the
with with the garbage truck. I
mean, this morning in
Fredericksburg, there are, there
are Maga houses with garbage
bins outside.
John C Dvorak: I'm I'm under the
impression that in New York City
there are random people
wandering around with that, with
the garbage vest.
Adam Curry: I mean, why wouldn't
you just go on Election Day and
put a garbage bag on? I mean,
it's hilarious. It's hilarious
the garbage bag. I mean, the
vest is one thing, but people
are putting garbage bags on
their head as hats. I mean, it's
John C Dvorak: supposed to be a
tonight's true. Be it's supposed
to be used a lot for the
Halloween
Adam Curry: costume. And you
know, this whole episode reminds
me of what we used to be like in
America. We used to be funny. We
had fun with stuff. We weren't
all butthurt over comments all
the time. I mean, this started
during the course of the show,
maybe 15 years ago. Whoa,
bullying. And bullying was a
hate speech. Bullying hate
speech. Yeah, it was bullying,
the hate speech, and then
canceling and cultural
appropriation. And, I mean,
Halloween, oh man, what can you
even dress as anymore? What can
you dress as? You can't dress as
a as a Mexican, you can't dress
as a cowboy or an Indian. You
can't you can't dress up as
anything anymore. Now a garbage
man is a is great. So I'm really
happy that this is happening.
And well, I see you have, you
actually have a very good
version of the Biden garbage
comment, which was hard to find,
audio wise and length wise. Can
I play that? Yes,
John C Dvorak: this is by this
would trigger the whole thing.
Let's see a little background
for anyone out there who kind of
missed this. I don't know how
you anyone
Adam Curry: living under a
garbage can is, is that,
John C Dvorak: just before came
I gave her final and definitive
speech on the lawn of the
Washington DC, the ellipse, or
whatever it's called, uh, Biden,
for some reason, this is the
thing I have the questions about
this, by the way, Biden goes on
Zoom, and I don't know who it
was, never explained, who He's
talking to on Zoom, no,
Adam Curry: or how he was, how
this video got out,
John C Dvorak: oh, how the video
got but, but it was Jean Pierre.
Claude Van Dam is the one who
put him on Zoom, it turns out,
uh huh. And so there's something
screwy about that. But we don't
know who he was talking to yet,
or why, and why. It was just
before Kamala speech. It was
sabotage. I believe so too.
Yeah, it was saboteur. And a lot
of we're seeing a lot of
sabotage. We're seeing some, I
think there's also Roger Stone
stuff going on.
Adam Curry: He's still
breathing. Well, yeah, well,
he's
John C Dvorak: a dirty tricks
guy, and he knows how to do
stuff like this and and so Biden
comes in. He ended this follows
the Madison Square Garden event
where the comedian who, you
know, is a famous podcaster.
What's his name? Tony
Unknown: Hinchcliffe.
Hinchcliffe,
John C Dvorak: he he's a Insult
Comic type of guy. And he's also
does roasts,
Adam Curry: yeah, well, kill
Tony, the kill Tony. He has the
kill Tony podcast, which is kind
of interview format, but then he
also has this stage show, which
I think is on four, four shows a
week at Joe's Comedy Club. And
he lets new comics come up. They
get to do one minute of bit, and
then they have a panel, and they
just slaughter whoever's up
there. So that's kind, that's
kind of the roasting part. But
he's really a cultural Insult
Comic, particularly during
COVID. He was just, you know,
saying the Chinese suck, and
they can't, you know, the whole
thing that's, that's his, it's
not, but some of its really
funny. Most was like, okay, but
John C Dvorak: it was very, I
thought his stuff was good. He
had good joke that he did, a
joke that the Democrats tried to
jump on, which was that he says,
Well, you know, there's a big,
you know, we've heard about this
big island of garbage in the in
the ocean. He says, it turns out
to be Puerto Rico,
Adam Curry: yeah, and by the
way, he is, he has sold out
Madison Square Garden three
times himself for a solo show.
John C Dvorak: So they've,
they've marginalized the guy as
some crazy comic. But I guess,
as you point out, he's not a
marginal character, but, but the
Puerto Rican thing, they tried
to make hay with that. And so it
didn't. It didn't go anywhere,
really, and but it became kind
of a topic conversation, until
Joe Biden comes on the air, on
this zoom call, and it gets
distributed all over the place
for some again, unknown, unknown
reason, unknown biases, unknown
discussion we don't know
anything about, but it was
Biden, and he said the
following,
Unknown: just the other day, a
speaker at his rally called
Puerto Rico, a floating island
of garbage. Well, let me tell
you something. I don't I don't
know the Puerto Rican that I
know, or Puerto Rico, where I'm
in my home state of Delaware,
they're going from honorable
people. The only garbage I see
floating out there is his
supporters. So
John C Dvorak: by the way, he
almost said where I'm from,
yeah,
Adam Curry: where he went to
school. I went to school with
Puerto Ricans. So Scott. Adams
did something very interesting,
and I believe he is correct,
although the Sabbath, you are
correct about the sabotage. And
I'm about to explain this with
these three clips. So Scott
Adams, he says this is really a
very fine people thing on the
Biden side. Now I'm just going
to play it again. The last bit
here, so we all are clearly
here. What Biden said?
Unknown: The only garbage I see
floating out there is his
supporters. Okay, the only
Adam Curry: garbage that I see
floating out here is his
supporters. Here's what Scott
Adams said.
Unknown: This story is total
bullshit. He didn't say that. He
didn't say that. What? Let me
tell you what I said,
the supporters. The word
supporters, if you thought the
supporters was a positive Yes,
then what it means is the only
garbage I see floating out there
is coming from his supporters,
meaning the things they say
about Puerto Rico, the only
garbage is something that
belongs to his supporters,
possessive s now
Adam Curry: listen to it again.
Unknown: The only garbage I see
floating out there is his
supporters. So
Adam Curry: I'm not I think
Scott has a very good point
here. Were it not that Karine
Jean, Pierre, Abdul Jabbar did
not explain it as a possessive.
She explained it differently. So
Unknown: just to clarify, he was
not calling Trump supporters
garbage, which is why he put out
this is why he wanted to make
sure that we put out a statement
that clarified what he meant and
what he was trying to say. And
so just want to make that very
clear for folks who are
watching. And I'll and I just
want to read that out to folks.
So he was regarding to the
comedian. So
Adam Curry: he was not saying
this regarding to the comedian.
In fact, he very clearly says
supporters, plural, with an s1
more time.
Unknown: Garbage I see floating
out there is just supporters.
Adam Curry: It's about the s.
Now, curry Jean Pierre is either
so desperate or in such a
destructive and I think you're
right, sabotage mode, that she
even got a stooge of the press
corps. I have not been able to
figure out who it was. It's, you
know, seeing, so that's do. See,
no, it's not do. See, definitely
is not, no, it's not do. See,
got a stooge from the press
corps to ask, to set her up with
a question and explicitly say,
support her, not ask, not
supporters, but support her to,
uh, legitimize and give her the
alley oop for her. Oh, no, that
was about the comedian. Listen
to this setup, which is really
from a I mean, this is not a
press corps. This is a
propaganda corps.
Unknown: Can you just address
the President's comments
yesterday referring to Trump
supporter as garbage? Did
Adam Curry: you hear him say
supporter? Even, even even vocal
fries that a little bit
supporter
Unknown: Trump, supporter,
supporter, garbage. And I know
he's trying to clarify that.
He's trying to talk about what
the person said, but one I guess
I want to know, does he think
less of Americans who support
Trump than he does of those who
do not. And two, why is he using
that kind of rhetoric? How is
that presidential?
Adam Curry: How about that
setup? Question is, I mean, is
this a moron, or is this someone
who's a shield in the audience?
So is he usually not to say
something bad about Trump
supporter for
Unknown: a couple of things,
couple of things. So, couple
things, he was not calling Trump
supporters garbage, which is why
he put out. This is why he
wanted to make sure that we put
out a statement that clarified
what he meant and what he was
trying to say. And so just want
to make that very clear for
folks who are watching. And I'll
and I just want to read that out
to folks. So he was regarding to
the comedian, and I quote, I
refer to the hateful rhetoric
about Puerto Rico spewed by
Trump's supporter. Supporter.
Adam Curry: Oh, now it's
supporter, because he set it up.
This is, this is a sad setup,
but
Unknown: Puerto Rico spewed by
Trump's supporter at his Madison
Square Garden rally as garbage,
which is the only word I can
think of to describe it. His
demonization of Latinos is
unconscionable. That's all I
meant to say. The comments, the
comments at the rally, don't
reflect who we are as a nation,
not who
Adam Curry: we are. So even this
could Scott Adams could pull
this apart and say, no, no, it's
about the supporter, because she
left off the apostrophe s the
bottom line, who cares? It's
America. It's hilarious. Listen,
John C Dvorak: I have to add to
this.
Adam Curry: You need to change
your speakers now, just a little
bit. I can't you keep cracking
through the gate. Just
Unknown: a little
Adam Curry: bit. What do you
need? Just your speakers down a
little bit, just a tad.
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, just
Adam Curry: a little bit. You
were jamming to Darren. Oh,
that's what was happening there.
Oh
John C Dvorak: yeah. That was
it. So I was told, tapping my
toe, actually, yeah. And couple
of First of all, we heard what
we heard. So Scott, I know why
Scott's doing this, and I don't
know why this is possibly
because they just own it,
because he
Adam Curry: wants, he wants to
be controversial and get people
to think he's awesome.
John C Dvorak: His the sentence
that followed what he said with
no edits, is what, what, what
Biden said. I don't have a clip
of it. I It is out there,
though, immediately after what
he said, right at the end of He
says his demonization is
unconscionable. Now, is he
talking about the comedian, or
about Trump, or about Trump? We
know what he's talking about.
And we know, we know Joe Biden.
If you're going to be calling
everybody a Nazi, a fascist, a
misogynist, you go on and on and
on, and now
Adam Curry: he's Mr. Nice Guy.
John C Dvorak: I mean, so give
me a break. All this is
nonsense, and if anybody's going
to nobody's going to buy it, and
nobody's going to buy Scott's
analysis, this was obvious what
he meant, and he did it on
purpose. And I think he may have
subconsciously done it to
sabotage the campaign, because
he subconsciously hates the idea
that he's not running because he
knows he'd be doing better than
Kamala is doing well
Adam Curry: in in Grand American
tradition, which is somehow the
opposite of a dean scream. I
don't know how he does it,
Trump, just and, and this sounds
like, this has a whole, feel
like it's from his mind. Oh, get
me a garbage truck. This is a
great idea. Maybe he's,
John C Dvorak: yeah, you do. I
have the explanation of how this
came about. Let
Adam Curry: me play this
quickly, and then I want to hear
explanation clip while former
Unknown: President Trump holds
dueling campaign events in those
same battlegrounds, speaking in
North Carolina earlier,
responding to President Biden's
comments on Puerto Rico,
insisting Biden called Trump
supporters garbage, though the
White House says that's not what
he meant. Joe
Biden finally said what he and
Kamala really think of our
supporters. He called them
garbage
and they mean it today, ahead of
his rally in Green Bay,
Wisconsin, Trump in a garbage
truck.
I like my garbage truck. This
truck is in honor of Kamala and
Joe Biden. Both
candidates will then head west
tomorrow, with Trump expected at
a rally in New Mexico and
Nevada. So
Adam Curry: the Hill Country
Christian nationalists are all
emailing Psalm two, verse four
around today, he who sits in
heaven laughs The Lord holds
them in derision. It is. It has
ignited everybody with with glee
and humor.
John C Dvorak: It's really
that's great. Everybody loves
this, yes.
Unknown: How did Trump come
about?
John C Dvorak: So Trump did the
topper. There's a two part. It
is the two Trump clips I have.
He's in Green Bay wearing the
vest
Unknown: vest. So
Adam Curry: he's wearing, it
needs to be a dirtied up a
little bit, needed a little, you
know, like a half a banana peel
or something. It was a little
too clean. Well, I
John C Dvorak: don't think you
have to go that far, but I'll
say this, the vest he's wearing
is not the vest you wore on the
truck. Oh, well, okay, okay,
change the vest.
Adam Curry: The Hardy Boys have
figured something
John C Dvorak: different vest,
but that's okay. So he does. He
does. He talks about how this
came about. Oh, and I and it
turns into a new bit. This was
five minutes, so I had to cut it
in half and take some some of
the long applause lines out. But
this is part one of his
explanation outfit. You
Unknown: know is when they when
he called us all garbage. How
stupid. What a stupid word. That
blows deplorable away. Don't you
think? Of course, I thought
irredeemable. When she said
deplorable or irredeemable, I
thought irredeemable was
actually worse, but deplorable
seemed to catch up. But this
garbage stuff blows blows it
away. So I'm in this beautiful
plane. I'm enjoying myself. Have
a wonderful suit on beautiful
plane.
I and one of my people came in
and said, Sir, you know the word
garbage is the hottest thing
right now out there, the hottest
thing out there, sir, would you
like to drive a garbage truck?
I. Yeah, we're about, you know,
30 minutes from landing. We had
to do this pretty quick. I said,
it's sort of cool though, isn't
it? Because, you know? And I
said, you know, I think that's
okay, but, you know, I don't
feel comfortable wearing a suit.
And they pulled up this garbage
truck. I don't know how the hell
they did it so fast. I have very
capable people. They put a big
sign on the truck. Did you see
it? I think they changed. And
then they said, Sir, we have a
vest. I said, Well, should I
leave my suit on and put it over
the vest? But that doesn't look
very good, right? That doesn't
look good. So I said, I look,
let me take it off. And then I
actually said I climbed into the
truck, but here, so I said, How
the hell do you get into the
truck? It's way up high. This
was a beauty. I said, You didn't
have to buy it that big, right?
You have to get it that big.
They brought this brand new,
gorgeous truck, wonderful
driver. It looked like Cary
Grant in his prime driver, and
he drove that big thing up. And
I said, Man, this is bad,
because now I have all the
cameras. Are all what look at,
all the fake news. They were
most of them.
Adam Curry: He did have to do a
little hoisting to get himself
in. I noticed. I mean, he pulled
it off. He pulled it off,
John C Dvorak: yeah, well, he
continues with the story. Now,
Unknown: most of them, many of
them were there, and I'm saying,
oh boy. You know, one little
mistake with these guys in your
political career is over. You
can't even so I said, Man, if I
don't get up there, this is
going to be very embarrassing.
These stupid people, they'll say
he's cognitively and physically
impaired. And I can't do that
when I'm alongside of this great
athlete, I got to get up to that
so, so look, so the stair, the
first stairs, like, up here, I'm
saying shit. So I had the
adrenaline going, and I made it.
I made it. And then I gave a
little news conference from the
front of the you know, they
asked their wise guy questions
and everything. And then we
drove about two feet, I got out,
and then I got in the car, and
I'm driving over here, and I
have this still on, and I come
into the arena, and I say,
Where's my jacket? I want to get
out of this stage. And they
said, it would be unbelievable
if you could wear it on stage.
And I said, No way. I got 25,000
people standing outside. I got
all these people here. There's
no way I'm wearing it on stage.
They said, Oh, okay, sir. I
said, Get me my jacket. But if
you did, you know it actually
makes you look thinner, I said,
and they got me. I said, I want
to wear it on stage. When they
said I look thinner, I said, in
that case, I may never wear a
blue jacket again. I may go, I
may go in this I said that that
was my that was the Word, that
was the key so you look thinner.
So anyway, so we had a little
fun about a very serious
subject. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that I'm actually
laughing about his stick here
that is self deprecating a lot
more than he did in 2016 or 2020
John C Dvorak: for that matter.
Yeah, and that works. That whole
bit is very endearing. So by the
way, you know that that's funny,
that getting into that truck
because, because Brune I got,
Brunetti, has a fire truck
that's similar to that garbage
truck in terms of getting into
it.
Adam Curry: That's the one you
crashed into the fence. I never
crashed into
John C Dvorak: the fence. But
you, you have, you have to
actually be shown how to get
into it, because you just this
you look at it is, why do you
get into this thing? It's a very
similar you have to, and if you
watch Trump get into it. You see
that part of the mechanism is
grabbing a hole of a couple of
grips that you have to know
where they are, and you have to
pull yourself in. Well, what's
Adam Curry: happening here with
this? You know, a typical retail
politician move as you go to the
to the rodeo, to the county
fair, you eat the stupid corn
dog, you know, you pretend you
like the burger,
John C Dvorak: yeah, and they
take a picture of you sucking in
a giant corn dog,
Adam Curry: and you got, you
gotta have your shirt sleeves
rolled up and your jacket off,
which is all phony, but this is
just, this is such an obvious
one. It makes so much, by the
way, also looks like an like an
airport Marshall, or with the
jacket on, it looks like a
construction worker. I mean,
people identify with that vest.
So it, I think that will go down
as just a brilliant move. I want
to go back, though, because this
all started, and it was, it was,
I mean, I didn't clip my hate,
listen, but I, I'm telling you,
Kara and Scott were like, This
is the October surprise. Now we
can get all the. Puerto Ricans
to vote for Kamala. And these
people are so insanely stupid. I
mean, and just and jitty about
John C Dvorak: the October
surprise, was the comic? Yes,
that was
Adam Curry: the October
surprise. Yes, there was even
some stories like it was people
were emailing me. It was a
setup, right? It was a setup,
right? He was a setup for him to
do that. What are you talking
about? I'm gonna go to NPR
first, because they summarize
the Madison Square rally as
you'd expect them to former
President
Unknown: Trump was in New York
holding a rally at Madison
Square Garden, and one of the
speakers described Harris as
quote, the anti christ. That was
one of many insults and
grievances as Trump made his
final appeal to the nation NPR
political
correspondent Daniel Kurtz Laban
was in the arena. Daniel, good
morning. Hey. Good morning. Good
morning. What was it like?
Well, it was a Trump rally, but
it was dialed way up in
intensity. It started with more
than four hours of guest
speakers, and the first guest of
the night set what was a pretty
vitriolic tone. Comedian and
podcaster Tony Hinchcliffe joked
that Puerto Rico is, quote, a
floating island of garbage. He
also said the Kansas City Chiefs
tight end Travis Kelsey quote
might be the next O J Simpson
Kelsey, of course, is dating
Harris supporter Taylor Swift.
So what we have here seems to be
a joke about killing one of the
most famous women in the world,
and it just went from there. One
speaker seemed to imply that
Harris is a prostitute. Tucker
Carlson made fun of Harris being
biracial. He also called her low
IQ. Later in his speech, Carlson
nodded to the racist great
replacement theory. So just
overall, a really inflammatory
night, given
that Republicans are trying to
appeal to all kinds of people,
this doesn't sound like a
unifying message. Big mistake.
No, that matters. I mean,
consider the gender gap in this
election. Polls show Trump is
ahead with men that he's well
behind with women. Well, when
one of his openers jokes about
Taylor Swift being killed by her
boyfriend, that arguably isn't a
winning message for those women
voters. Wow.
Adam Curry: What a way to
explain a joke. I need to say
something about hitch Cliff for
a moment, as I because I watched
it, you know, by saw him. I saw
most of those in real time. And
as I'm watching him, who and his
whole message was free speech,
freedom of speech and being able
to say what you want, and not
everybody getting so butthurt.
We happen to be re watching all
of Seinfeld, starting at episode
one, which, by the way, Kramer
was called Kessler in episode
one, oddly, and episode two, he
was Kramer. And you know, so
Jerry Seinfeld. If you've never
seen the show, he does, you
know, it's opens with some stand
up of his, where he kind of sets
up with his observational humor,
sets up the episode, and then he
comes back about three quarters
of the way through, and then
sometimes at the end, and I'm
just thinking to myself, I
remember what it was like in New
York in the 80s. You had the
comedy cellar and all these
other places, and all of these
comics would come onto MTV, and
you know, Gilbert Gottfried,
Judy tenuta AND ELMO Gosh,
John C Dvorak: to new to yeah,
Adam Curry: oh yeah, they would
do VJ segments, and, you know,
and obviously, from time to
time, hey, come by the club and
see my set tonight. And they
would do, you know, this kind of
stand up that Tony hitch cliff
is doing. And it was like no one
was butthurt. You might get
booed or heckled, but it wasn't
like people were ready to go
beat you up and call you a Nazi.
And I mean the Taylor Swift OJ
joke was pretty funny in
context, so we just lost that
with the bullying and school and
the hate speech and all this
stuff. And somehow it came back,
and hitchcliffe, along with
others, is kind of making it
okay to do that again, without
everybody getting all off kilter
about it. Now this nats Nazi
rally comparison 1939 this
started with Atlantic magazine.
It started with an article by, I
forget who it is in Atlantic
magazine, which I can't read
because it's behind a paywall,
but all right, I guess NPR and
all the hoity toity people read
it, and so they all went, oh
yeah, oh yeah, that's right.
It's a 1939 Nazi rally. And I
just happened to come across
this clip. Is
John C Dvorak: that the article
that said that equated Trump
with Hitler Stalin again? Yes.
Oh, you well, you know who the
writer was,
Unknown: hit me and Apple
Adam Curry: ball? Oh, of course.
And we know who owns the
Atlantic. Laureen Powell Jobs,
Lorraine,
John C Dvorak: Lorraine,
Adam Curry: Lorraine Powell
Jobs,
I happen to have a short clip
here of an interview that she
did on recode, which is was Kara
Swisher conference sitting on
stage. It's Lauren Powell Jobs
and Kamala Harris. How
coincidental is that? And it's
about why she bought Atlantic
magazine.
Unknown: It was pretty awesome.
Obvious to me that we could
build we, yeah, we.
Adam Curry: By the way, she's
really pretty in this interview.
You know, over time, I think
she's gotten ugly because of the
inside she's like, Ah,
John C Dvorak: I agree with you
100% on purpose, that's
Adam Curry: all right, but she
was pretty during this
interview. Like, wow. She was
stunning, and she became
unpretty.
Unknown: It was pretty obvious
to me that we could build, we,
you know, we, we build out in a
very cross disciplinary way our
work, you know, capital
investing and policy and
philanthropy, and we could do
this work forever and ever, and
we could have the narrative
overtaken by by someone who's
who has a lot of power, who's
completely contrary to us, and
we could never get to the place
where we think we're part of a
more just and equal society. And
so it was obvious that if we
could be part of the the
creation of cultural narrative
that would, that would enhance
and amplify all the work that
we're doing, which is
Hillary Clinton talked about
today, is telling the story,
getting the content out there.
Yeah, she was yes, yeah, yeah.
These are, these are early days
for us, but that's that's the
idea behind it. We want to
inspire the kind of stories that
we'd like to see told.
Do you ever see you buying
something bigger, like the New
York Times, for example? Is it
for sale? It could be for you.
Adam Curry: So there it is. She
bought it with her philanthropy
and with her investments and
with her contacts to set
cultural narrative and an apple
bomb. I'm sure they're all
hanging out at the tea table.
And there's, hey, I know what
you got. I got a great idea,
Lauren. I got a great idea. So
then the mainstream, the M, 5m
comes into into play. They've
all got the memo. They've all
got the message, yep, this is it
night we we played somewhat on
the last episode is it was
insane. The comparisons before
the rally even took place,
before it even took place, it
was all just everyone off, off
the hook. And I mean seriously,
and
John C Dvorak: I have not even
really the same venue. It's
called the same thing. But the
Madison Square Gardens of today
was actually opened in 1968 Oh,
that's interesting. The other
No, that place was not even, it
was not even there now someplace
else, which makes it funnier
now. So
Adam Curry: I have a series of
NPR clips that are just, I have
to play that, because they're
not to be believed. But I need
to start with, you know, Morning
Joe. They've, they've been all
over this. They've been saying
he's Hitler Since 2015 but then
Mika, it shows up on the view
and and she and she has a
rehearsed bit, which is just, I
mean, she's a mental patient.
Mental Mika was pathetic. Oh,
you've seen this. Oh, yeah,
Unknown: I think it was
everything that you need to know
about Donald Trump in one weird
white nationalist Nazi type
rally. And of course, there's
historic parallels to where and
when the cards. But even more
so, it also points out
everything that we know, but
it's important to act on right
now, because this is the moment,
and we won't have it again.
Nobody gets a pass. Trashing
America, Puerto Rican Americans.
Nobody gets a pass, degrading
people. This
Adam Curry: is so I'm sure Joe
was like Mika, this is your
nobody gets a pass speech. It's
It's beautiful. It's beautiful,
baby. You go do it on the view.
Nobody
Unknown: gets a pass. Degrading
legal mind migrants and
terrorizing people. Nobody gets
a pass threatening his enemies
with using the military against
against them. Nobody gets a pass
on inciting an insurrection.
Nobody gets a pass on saying he
fancies Hitler and wants to have
generals like his
John C Dvorak: pretty fancy
Hitler. For those
Adam Curry: who don't know, Mika
is Mika Brzezinski, daughter of
famous Brzezinski, who was
probably one of the biggest war
mongers in our in our history,
Afghan he's a
John C Dvorak: foreign policy
wonk that worked under the
Carter administration and
others, and was definitely a he
was from Eastern Europe, and he
hated the Russians, and he
everything. He was just plotting
against them, trying to get the
US government he really would
love to have seen world war
three.
Unknown: Nobody gets a pass on
insulting veterans and saying
those who have died for our
country.
Adam Curry: I think she missed
the very fine people, but she
had everything else are suckers
Unknown: and losers, except for
convicted felon Donald Trump.
You all have set it up, but let
me take it a step further,
please. You may this is called
normalization.
Adam Curry: Remember this word
normalization? It's very
dangerous. Is, this is called,
this is John. In case you didn't
know, this is called
normalization. This
Unknown: is called
normalization. Yes, this is the
descent into fascism, if we so
choose normalizing January 6.
It's a day of love. It's a day
of love. I'll say it again and
again and again. Normalizing
enemy from within. I'll say it
again and again. I'll say it
again and again until you get
tired of it, until it's not so
funny anymore, or you think he
doesn't mean it, until you
realize he does mean it, and
it's too late.
Adam Curry: Now wait now, she's
kind of winded up by talking
about herself and her poor
parents, her poor parents, the
evil chess master himself,
Brzezinski,
Unknown: these strict abortion
bans, oh no, are a beautiful
thing. Are you kidding me? We
got to wake up. And here's the
good news, because I come with
such warnings, and I mean them
from the bottom of my heart, as
a daughter of refugees who came
here escaping war,
Adam Curry: to go and try and
start more war.
Unknown: Came here for America
to be a part of a democracy,
yes, to be a part of building
something beautiful where they
could be free and kill other
people. I'm telling you, the
good news is that I believe
women will be the beacon in this
election.
Adam Curry: Women will be the
beacon in this election. Okay,
so, my God, it went on from two
more minutes and she's almost
crying. Now she's a terrible
person. Yes, she is. So now NPR
and this, I mean, this just blew
me away. I have the setup clip
is, is a little long. The rest
are quite short. So on the
media, on the media. Brooke
Brooke Gladstone, on the media.
Brooke Gladstone, she had Jason
Stanley on the show, and he she
will introduce his credits in a
moment. But I did not want to
withhold the setup. Pay
attention to the music. Someone
should get a should get some
kind of award for the music with
her, her opening about this
horrible, horrible man of Hitler
on
Unknown: Sunday, Donald Trump
hosted a rally at Madison Square
Garden in New York, prompting
critics to compare the event to
another one in the same place
many years
Adam Curry: was not the same
place. Fake News. Fact check,
Unknown: false. In 1939 more
than 20,000 supporters of a
different fascist leader, Adolf
Hitler, packed the garden for a
so called Pro America rally.
Remind
Adam Curry: you, this is NPR,
your National Public Radio
John C Dvorak: use the word the
usage is here, a different
fascist leader. Oh, yeah,
Adam Curry: it's too delicious,
implying,
John C Dvorak: of course, that
Trump is a fascist leader.
Adam Curry: Oh, they're going to
straight up say it. Don't
Unknown: worry. Packed the
garden for a so called Pro
America rally, a rally where
speakers voiced anti semitic
rhetoric from a stage draped
with Nazi banners. Those
speeches in New York drew
chilling attention to the ways
in which American policy had
inspired the furor American
lawmakers, generations ago,
promulgated laws for beating
intermarriage.
Adam Curry: I love this. So the
set your tone, they bring out
this old speech, you know, like
these are American Nazis. Oh,
no, green,
Unknown: white and black,
yellow, brown and red.
Inhabitants, it has then always
John C Dvorak: been very What
guy sounds Irish? Ain't mine.
Big
Unknown: Bucha, American.
Wherever a race problem became
acute to instinctively attempt
to create legislation designed
to protect the Aryan character
of this nation,
a night's rally at the garden
Trump and his allies, untempered
and Unbound, traded in racist
tropes, untempered and unbound
nationalistic rhetoric to an
eager crowd warmed up by the
Insult Comic Tony Hinchcliffe. I
don't know if you guys know
this, but there's literally a
floating island of garbage in
the middle of the ocean right
now.
Yeah, I
think it's called Puerto Rico.
The lineup included Tucker
Carlson, Elon Musk, RFK Junior,
Rudy Giuliani and the resolution
Stephen Miller, America
is for Americans and Americans
only. Then, of
course, the main attraction the
United States is now an occupied
country, but it will soon be an
occupied country no longer not
going to be happening, not going
to be happening,
Adam Curry: okay, so and just
everything is a beautiful setup.
So now she brings in the
professor. They always bring in
these professors that,
John C Dvorak: by the way, where
you're playing is absolutely
shameful. Oh,
Adam Curry: you. We're only
getting started. She brings in a
professor, uh.
John C Dvorak: People, by the
way, people who send their money
to NPR should be sending it to
us
Adam Curry: just just Yes. So
Jason Stanley is going to
introduce some new concepts to
us, some new terms, and he is
going to explain the fascism of
Trump, and His credits will be
mentioned in the intro here.
Unknown: In the past few weeks,
there seemed to come a tipping
point where Trump's speeches
became increasingly specific
about the vengeance he'd wreak
against his enemies, and even
those who had hesitated
John C Dvorak: were now listen
to the music. The music is
terrible
Unknown: against his enemies.
And even those who had hesitated
were now applying the word
fascist, fascist go peas
nominee,
Adam Curry: even those who
hesitated on
Unknown: last week's show, we
aired an interview with Jason
Stanley, a professor of
philosophy at Yale University
who has used the F word to
describe Trump, early and often,
Professor
Adam Curry: of Philosophy. Now,
what, what does a does a
professor of philosophy? Is he
that an expert in fascism?
John C Dvorak: Well, that is a
funny thing. You should ask that
because of fascism, was a kind
of philosophically bound to
certain philosophers. Well, I
think you could it's a stretch,
but not a bad one.
Adam Curry: Let's listen to the
good professor Trump. Early
Unknown: and often,
I've been sort of involved in
the, let's call it fascism wars,
since my 2018 book, when I
talked about how much the
rhetoric we're seeing is just
very clearly fascist rhetoric.
So
Trump's been called
authoritarian, dangerous for
democracy for a long time. What
has he done or said or implied
that advances him from a threat
to democracy to a fascist?
I think
focusing on Trump is a mistake,
because it's really the whole
fascist social and political
movement, and that's why the
history of the United States is
so vital. Rather than looking at
Europe, where we did have
figures like Mussolini and
Hitler, we need to look at the
whole structure. For example,
Langston Hughes in 1937 said
black Americans don't need to be
told about fascism. It's just a
European word for Jim Crow. But
now we have a much more European
structure with a fascist leader
of a fascist social and
political movement, kind of
Christian fascism? Here,
there we go.
John C Dvorak: We have another
atheist, Christian fascism.
Adam Curry: Oh, it's good. What
are the stepping stones? What
are
Unknown: the stepping stones?
What is happening now that so
alarms you? Well,
you're looking at the targets of
fascism, immigrants, LGBTQ
people, which were central
targets of the Nazi Party.
Gender fluidity is an enemy of
fascism, because Fascism is
about making sure the dominant
group remains numerically the
largest group, and women are
there to bear children. So the
idea of trans women is
antithetical to the central role
the identity of women in fascist
ideology on the federal party.
Isn't this great?
John C Dvorak: Is this guy just
making it up as he's going
along? No, gender ideology is
somehow now tied up in this
whole thing.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, you can't
have trans women because guy is
basically
John C Dvorak: a genderist.
Well,
Unknown: see in Project 2025 and
elsewhere, Trump has been clear
that they want funding from
school districts unless they use
immutable gender categories, so
all children born male must be
referred to with male pronouns.
Oh,
Adam Curry: the human pronouns.
Oh, the humanity and of course,
you know this proof that this is
happening. I mean, just take a
look at it, and we're
Unknown: already seeing that
here. The Supreme Court has been
altered. So it's just a vehicle
for far right policy at this
point, and for Trump,
Adam Curry: oh, it's been
altered. By the way, Democrat
senators also voted for the
Supreme Court justices. We seem
to forget that. It's like Trump
just said, Get in there. Get in
there.
John C Dvorak: Now. Now bad news
hasn't been altered any more so
than it's ever been altered by
changing justices. When one
quits, another one gets put in
Adam Curry: now we go to the
normalization bit.
Unknown: This is a 911, call
those who are refusing the label
of fascism, are normalizing what
we're seeing. Do
Adam Curry: you hear a narrative
here, this normalization? He got
the memo. You got the memo. Are
normalizing
Unknown: what we're seeing
because impact of saying this is
not fascism, that impact. On
listeners, is okay, we really
don't need to worry much. This
is politics as usual. This is
not politics as usual. That's
not to say that these forces
haven't always been here in the
United States. There's another
way of looking at it, just where
this is sort of a victory of
whatever the Jim Crow South has
transformed into, and I think
there's widespread agreement
that this is the federalizing of
what's happening in states like
Texas now, in the black American
tradition, you call those forces
racial fascism.
Adam Curry: Racial fascism. I
don't know what I am now. I'm a
racial Christian, nationalist
fascist.
John C Dvorak: You know these
guys in this Jim Crow meme.
Nobody knows what they're
talking about. This is elitist
bull crap. Well,
Adam Curry: it's NPR, elitist
voices. Okay. Why are people
voting for Trump? I mean, if
he's so fascist, this is not
good. So
Unknown: let's consider why
people vote for Trump. Some say
it's because he'll solve
structural problems within
American democracy. Do you think
that people who vote for Trump
do it because of or despite his
fascist leanings?
There's a large level.
John C Dvorak: What a leading
question. Great, are you still
beating your wife? Come on. Yes
or No, are you still beating
your wife? Yes or No, his
Unknown: fascist leanings.
There is a large literature on
what makes people vote for
authoritarians or strong men and
Ruth bend, the authoritarian
personality. Work by Adorno and
co authors published nearly
1950s Oh, he's got facts, John,
I'm a little intimidated all
about this, the authoritarian
personality being someone who
leans towards voting for fascist
leaders. They even came up with
something called the F scale,
fascism scale for measuring
this. And the features are
things like being raised in a
patriarchal family, because
patriarchy is very central for
fascism. And the whole idea of
Adam Curry: if you're raised in
a patriarchal family, ie you got
a dad, you got a mom, then
you're pretty much on track to
be a fascist. Is that what I'm
hearing
John C Dvorak: Yes, exactly.
Unknown: Because patriarchy is
very central for fascism, and
the whole idea of decline is
connected with feminism.
My country goes downhill if
women stop having babies and
start taking leadership roles,
though,
Adam Curry: that, of course, we
can't have women in leadership
roles. I got it now this is,
John C Dvorak: by the way,
before I forget. This is leading
to the bonus clip. Oh, good,
good. I
Adam Curry: have the bonus clip.
I'm almost done. A couple, I'm
almost done. These
John C Dvorak: are sure. Keep
going. These are short. I'm
enjoying this, believe me. Okay,
so this guy, who is obviously a
genderist, yeah, who is, uh, is
gay, there's no question, and
gay atheist, and he's setting
back the gay uh, agenda.
Adam Curry: He's a gay theist.
John C Dvorak: He's a gay
theist.
Adam Curry: Gay, I think
atheist. Atheist is an
interesting, interesting show
title, so, but it's really, it's
not just Trump. I mean, this is
gonna roll everybody up in here
and and Brooke has a very
interesting observation here
about democracy. You know, now
we just to remind everybody, we
live in a constitutional
republic. We have representative
government, but, oh, our
democracy, our democracy. And
she's actually going to explain
what she believes democracy is a
very short clip.
Unknown: I mean, that's why we
have to recognize that this
isn't just about Trump. This is
a social and political movement
of Christo fascism, if you will.
And libertarians. Is
Adam Curry: it? What is Christo
fascism? Christian
Unknown: croque and libertarians
who want the government liberty,
John C Dvorak: or fascists,
Libertarians of all the people
that call fascists libertarians
and libertarians
Unknown: who want the government
to be essentially eliminated so
they can have full power and not
be constrained by essentially
working class Americans. So they
don't want,
John C Dvorak: they want. So now
they're eight, they're they're
one of those government Hey,
anarchist, anarchist. Somehow,
libertarians are anarchists, is
what he said.
Adam Curry: Now, Brooke is going
to expand on this very short so
just listen 18 seconds, what
democracy really is working
class
Unknown: Americans
so they don't have to share. I
mean, isn't that what it's
about? Yes, it's
about sharing, because democracy
is about sharing.
Adam Curry: What democracy is
about sharing? John, listen,
it's about this
John C Dvorak: is the this is
the real, the basic breakdown
between the left and the right,
which is one side, once
communal. It's communist. Is
they want socialism and they
want government control, which
is forced sharing. You're forced
to share. Here. Give me your
money. I'm going to give it to
this guy, as opposed to self
help, which is the other side of
the equation. Here we go.
Unknown: It's about sharing,
because democracy is about
sharing. Democracy is the idea
that it's our country together
and we work together to have
public goods like public
schools, which are under attack
by this social and political
movement
John C Dvorak: our Biden mcfrie.
And by the way, there is nothing
about democracy and public
schools. There's no connection.
I don't get this.
Adam Curry: Well, no, there is
the if you listen to the whole
interview he talks about, you
know, how incredibly important
it is that we keep the
Department of Education so it
can continue to indoctrinate the
children into sharing, into the
concept of democracy sharing. I
mean, this is, this is very
infantile speak, but it's, it's
propaganda. Democracy is about
sharing. Don't you want to
share? Jimmy, come on, Johnny,
don't you want to share with
Adam, we share, and we all like
to work together. Then we work
according to what we can do, and
we all have equal outcomes. It
sounds fantastic, yes, according
John C Dvorak: to his needs.
There you go Marx from each
according to his abilities, that
is not democracy, that is
communism. Yes,
Adam Curry: two more here. Now,
of course, he doesn't mention
podcasts, but it's kind of in
here. But it's really, it's
really the media. I mean, it's,
it's especially local radio and
I mean just radio. I mean, it's
television, radio, it's there.
They're doing it. We
Unknown: have the destruction of
local media by being bought up
by these in case of Sinclair or
far right media conglomerates.
And
a lot of local radio has been
bought up by, I guess you would
call it Christian fascists. Yes,
yes. That's not local media.
Adam Curry: I know, like no
mention of Soros buying all the
radio stations. Obviously, I'm
not going to say that, because
we know that that's bull crap
too, yes,
Unknown: and that's not local
media. I mean, people will
simply cease to trust media, and
that environment, as we know,
combined with social media,
results in conspiracy theories
having Ferrari engines.
Adam Curry: Oh, conspiracy
theories with Ferrari engines.
And then he wraps it all up by
crazily enough, saying, Well,
John C Dvorak: hold on a second.
So that was the best he could do
for a metaphor conspiracies
which already have nothing to do
with automobiles or anything
with Ferrari engines. And this,
this is like, um, this is, this
is lame. This guy. He's
Unknown: not good. He's a
gatheist. He's a gay theus.
Would he expect? Now, I
Adam Curry: was going to wrap it
up by saying it's but it's
really not fascism. People
Unknown: get bogged down in
these kind of irrelevant
details. What we have is a far
right authoritarianism that
targets the same targets Hitler
did. And the people who are
like, Okay, you shouldn't call
it fascists, fully agree that
this movement has all the
dangers of fascism, so I use the
term fascism because we don't
have another word for something
that looks so much like fascism.
Everyone agrees, even in the
fascism debate, that what we're
facing is very dangerous. Money
shot,
Adam Curry: we don't have a word
for it, so just use fascism.
Come on. NPR, sure, out of
control. I know, I know that
John C Dvorak: brings me to a
clip I actually wanted. I'd
rather play a couple other
things before, I guess the Cuban
clip. Sure, which is more crap
from these people. This is a
campaign about the DC speech
PBS, I they would. This is a,
this is the PBS, not NPR. I got
NPR stuff too. Yes,
Unknown: yes,
John C Dvorak: I got NPR under
garbage. I still have four clips
here. You
Adam Curry: probably should play
the just so we get a straight
Unknown: voices of America. This
is NPR,
John C Dvorak: or people, so
PBS, which is very slanted, is
it's really pathetic, actually.
But here they're talking about,
they're wrapping the campaign.
We only got five days left,
right? And so we're going to
talk about the DC speech that
commonly all this great speech
she gave the one that was
undercut by Biden's garbage
comment. They don't
Adam Curry: no one's talking
about her DC speech.
John C Dvorak: But PBS is here
we go, of course.
Unknown: Meanwhile, Vice
President Kamala Harris made her
case in North Carolina's capital
of Raleigh. We
have just six days left in one
of the most common.
Consequential elections of our
lives, and we have work to do
in Washington, DC, last night, a
crowd in the 10s of 1000s
gathered to see Harris deliver
her closing arguments on the
White House the lips lawn, the
same place Trump gave his
infamous January 6 speech. We
know who Donald Trump is he is
the person who stood at this
very spot nearly four years ago
and sent an armed mob to the
United States Capitol to
overturn the will of the people
in a wait a minute,
Adam Curry: they were armed with
appeal to heaven flags. Is she
doing this on the mall?
John C Dvorak: She's doing it,
yeah. It's called the ellipse, I
Adam Curry: think. Oh, the
ellipse. Free and fair
Unknown: election, Paris painted
Trump as a threat to democracy
and vowed to represent all
Americans these United
States of America. We are not a
vessel for the schemes of
wannabe dictators. Wannabe the
United States of America is the
greatest idea humanity ever
devised a nation big enough to
encompass all our dreams, strong
enough to withstand any fracture
or fissure between us, and
fearless enough to imagine a
future of possibilities. So
America, let us reach for that
future.
John C Dvorak: Wasn't democracy
fragile? I don't know, but I
don't know. So they gave that's
kind of a the best they could
do.
Adam Curry: It's inspirational.
It's inspirational. It's It
reminds me a bit of Martin
Luther King. She's
John C Dvorak: screaming at the
top of her lunch. Where's the
joy? Yeah, so joy. So did. So
they continue the report and and
they give the the talk, not talk
about Trump's campaign, where he
is. And you can tell me you
can't hear the slant, this anti
Trump slant from PBS. And I will
say to people out there, if
you're donating to this PBS
operation in any way, shape or
form, stop it and give it to us.
Unknown: Exactly. Trump made his
closing arguments with a large
rally at New York's Madison
Square Garden last Sunday, an
event later criticized for
racist and sexist rhetoric
throughout, including a comedian
calling Puerto Rico, a quote,
floating island of garbage.
Trump responded to the criticism
last night on Fox, they put
a comedian in which everybody
does. You throw comedians in,
you don't vet them and go crazy.
It's nobody's fault, but
somebody said some bad things.
President Biden also weighed in
on a zoom was
Adam Curry: Trump. I didn't know
Trump was backpedaling that
John C Dvorak: somebody caught
off guard right there,
Unknown: but somebody said some
bad things. President
Biden also weighed in on a zoom
call with Latino supporters last
night. The only
garbage I see floating out there
is his supporters, because his
his demonization was seen as
unconscionable.
Wow, now that, wow.
John C Dvorak: I'm sure that
adds to the context. Yeah, I'm
Adam Curry: sure he's not only
talking about kill Tony at that
point. At that point, he's
clearly talking about Trump.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: there was one
little addition at the end there
the demonization, he had another
little bunch of back it up. See
me play that again. Who called
Unknown: with Latino supporters
last night?
The only garbage I see floating
out there is his supporters. His
his demonization was seen as
unconscionable, and it's un
American. His
Adam Curry: demonization of
things is unconscionable. So it
wasn't just about Tony
demonizing Puerto Rico, which he
wasn't. So, yeah, there you go.
So yes, Scott Adams should
listen to everything in context.
Unknown: Later clarifying he was
referring to the comedian's
rhetoric, not Trump voters,
John C Dvorak: by the way.
Harris stop. When did we ever
hear Biden say any of this
clarification stuff? This was
all came from John Pierce. She
wrote it, man, she wrote it. She
Adam Curry: wrote she just wrote
his. Just wrote a statement. He
didn't say anything, he
John C Dvorak: didn't say
anything. He never apologized.
Adam Curry: Did you see him at
the Halloween party?
Unknown: No. Oh,
Adam Curry: so first of all, he
comes out with the giant panda.
So it wasn't the Easter Bunny
this time. It's a giant panda.
John C Dvorak: Well, the Easter
Bunny scares him, so
Adam Curry: the panda is
handling him. He's pointing out
over there. And he goes, Huh?
And he walks over. It's a
handler, a literal handler.
Handler.
John C Dvorak: Wow, we're coming
up with a million. Today,
Adam Curry: it's a handler and
and then, you know, like, Oh,
look at this cute baby. And he
goes up and he's biting the
baby. Oh yeah, he
John C Dvorak: bites the baby,
and then another baby bit the
other baby too. He bit two
babies.
Adam Curry: I mean, he didn't
get enough for lunch. I mean,
come on, Joe, his demonization
Unknown: was seen as
unconscionable, and it's un
American. Later
clarifying he was referring to
the comedian's rhetoric, not
Trump voters today. Harris
distanced herself from his
remarks. First
of all, he clarified his
comments, but let me be clear, I
strongly disagree with any
criticism of people based on who
they vote for, and as President
of the United States, I will be
a president for all Americans.
Whether you vote for me or not
for running
mate. Governor Tim Walz echoed
that message in Charlotte, North
Carolina.
We can choose a path that
includes everyone that is
hopeful, that it adheres to the
American values, or we can get
not dark negative, and sink into
a place that's all about one
person, Donald Trump. That's the
choice,
but the Trump campaign pounced
with Senator J, D Vance saying
Harris and Biden should be
ashamed of themselves. That too
comes in the context of a
pattern of coarse and insulting
language from Trump. Joe
Biden became mentally impaired.
Kamala was born that way. We
can't stand you rash vice
president,
including these remarks today
about Democrats. It's the most
corrupt,
horrible people. These are
horrible people. Oops, we should
get along with everybody.
They're horrible people.
John C Dvorak: There's a little
angle difference there between
those two. Yeah, of course, of
course. Well, let's go to NPR.
This is NPR in the garbage
remark. Okay,
Unknown: just the other I'm
sorry, wait, NPR, gar, oh, I got
it.
His rally today was mostly
pretty standard for Trump. He
talked about his plan to do mass
deportations. He also talked
about inflation. But also, as
you mentioned there, he really
railed against this comment that
President Biden made Tuesday
night. Biden had been talking
about Trump Sunday, Madison
Square Garden rally, where, at
that rally, a comedian referred
to Puerto Rico as a quote,
floating island of garbage.
Biden in talking about this,
Adam Curry: that is just in
general. It's this is very
dishonest reporting. You should
say a comedian made a joke where
the Puerto Rico was the brunt of
a joke, but to say he referred
to Puerto Rico as a floating
island of garbage,
John C Dvorak: is this, not only
that, but it's, it's both this
report and the other one, if you
noticed, they said, quote, oh,
floating island of garbage. Oh,
interesting. A comedian
Unknown: referred to Puerto Rico
as a quote, floating island of
garbage. Biden, in talking about
this, stumbled over his words,
and it momentarily sounded like
he was calling Trump's garbage,
huh? Okay, so you have this
comment from Biden, and you have
a series of racist and
misogynist comments from that
New York rally. Tell us how
Trump addressed all of that
today. Did
Adam Curry: he so? Okay, so you
have answers. Quote from Biden,
wow. You know, these people are
all they're gonna be out of a
job. Podcasting is taking
John C Dvorak: Jeff Well, yeah,
maybe try to podcast with their
30 producers. Did
Adam Curry: you see Did you see
Jeff Bezos? He said, Oh, our
problem is these, these
podcasters?
John C Dvorak: No, no, you have
to get that clip. No,
Adam Curry: no, it's not a clip.
That lack of credibility isn't
unique to the post. Our
brethren, newspapers have the
same issue, and it's a problem
not only for the media, but also
for the nation. Many people are
turning to off the cuff
John C Dvorak: podcasts. Off the
cuff. Work involved No, no
Adam Curry: just sitting down,
just yapping inaccurate social
media posts and other unverified
news sources which can quickly
spread misinformation and deepen
division. It's our fault off the
cuff, you You
John C Dvorak: know what's
interesting about that quote and
others, especially the stuff you
see on Mastodon, and I'll point
the finger at Dan Gilmore,
who's, who's, who's one of these
report, report X, reporter, by
what he's doing now. But he was
a, he was a professor at
University of Arizona for
Arizona State, one of the two
Arizona state for a while
teaching, oh, that we had to be
activists as journalists. We
shouldn't be balancing anything
but he but, but then they're
condemning, like Twitter, and
they're condemning and they're
condemning podcasting, condemn,
condemn. Meanwhile, Gilmore is
the guy who wrote a book about
citizen journalism, which is
exactly. What this is, sources
go direct citizen journalism is
Twitter, yeah, but okay, it's
all bad now, now that it's
turning on him. Okay, this is
NPR and garbage too, in this
then I get one, then I have the
Cuban clip, and
Unknown: I'm done. I'm excited.
Okay,
well, despite trying to draw
attention to Biden's comments,
Trump is still fielding a lot of
criticism from that New York
rally. Right,
right? Very much. The Trump
campaign has distanced itself
from that one specific joke
about Puerto Rico, but they
haven't really answered for the
other vulgar statements made at
that rally, and there were a lot
of those statements about Kamala
Harris, about women, about
Latinos as a whole, plus Tucker
Carlson told the crowd that
leaders, political leaders, are
trying to replace American
voters, which is a reference to
the racist great replacement
theory. At any rate, Trump is
doing this very broad cleanup.
He has called the New York rally
a love fest. And at a rally in
Pennsylvania last night, he
said, quote, Nobody loves our
Latino community and our Puerto
Rican community more than I do,
Wow,
Adam Curry: he's so bad.
John C Dvorak: Wow. So I caught
so I I caught this on this
morning's uh, outnumbered a fox
show where Kaylee McEnany
played, and it starts off with
Mark Cuban on the view, and he's
not actually on the view. He's
calling in, yeah, so, so it's
like a remote, and I don't
understand why he couldn't do
the show and they wouldn't bring
him in, or they just had to have
him on. I don't know what the
deal is with this is a zoom call
on the view and Mark Cuban
condemning Trump women, and then
this is followed immediately by
Kaylee just being personally
offended and going nuts. And
here we go,
Unknown: Trump. You never see
him around strong, intelligent
women ever. It's just that
simple, they're intimidating to
him. He doesn't like to be
challenged by them.
Mark Cuban, okay, I had to take
a breath before this, because
this is so profoundly offensive.
I worked for Donald Trump. I
consider myself a strong woman.
I consider those around me
strong women. Kellyanne, Conway,
Brooke Rollins, Ivanka Trump,
Hope Hicks, Sarah Sanders,
that's before we get to the
women that Donald Trump elevated
to very high levels, like Nikki
Haley, who still supports him,
like Amy Coney Barrett, who he
put on the Supreme Court, or the
women currently around him.
Susie Wiles comes to mind.
Caroline Levitt. That is so
offensive, and you know why?
Because it's not just about the
women who worked for him, he
said, the women around Donald
Trump. This comes right after
the Joe Biden garbage comment,
okay, the women around Donald
Trump. What about the women who
vote for Donald Trump? Are they
weak? Are they dumb? Did Mark
Cuban just insult any woman who
supports Donald Trump? Because
it's a little, very small step
from that. And this is an
official Biden excuse me, Harris
campaign surrogate, Mark Cuban.
That is misogynistic, in my
view. Get out of here. Mark
Cuban, Kamala Harris, he's your
surrogate. I want to hear from
you. Do you agree the women are
weak and ineffective? Whatever
he said, Get out of here. And I
can't wait to hear from you.
Kamala.
Adam Curry: Woman scorned like
Mark Cuban. Who cares about Mark
Cuban?
John C Dvorak: Dick is a nud.
Nick can care
Adam Curry: about I don't
really. I don't care about
anybody but John C Dvorak, you
know what you say matters.
Nothing else. These people say,
Man, I like to listen to my own
billionaires,
John C Dvorak: but you're not
getting one here.
Adam Curry: I need to play just
a couple things about because
they're now, obviously we're
getting close to the election. I
early voted. We have, we do not
have dominion voting machines
here. We do not have, yes,
there's a big explanation for
how they work and what they do
and what they don't. And no
pictures. No pictures. Is your
phone off? Not allowed? Is that
right? Yeah, no pictures. I said
John C Dvorak: before you before
you discuss that any further,
can I play this little short
clip from PBS on paper ballots?
Unknown: Yes, here we go.
The race for president ran
through the Tar Heel State
today,
Vice President Kamala Harris and
former President Donald Trump
both rallied in North Carolina,
one of the crucial swing states
that could secure a victory in
next week's election in Rocky
Mount, North Carolina. Former
President Donald Trump urged
voters to send him back to the
White House.
This election is a choice
between whether we'll have a
four more years. Think of this,
four more years of gross
incompetence continuing
to sow doubt about the security
of the election. I'm hearing
all sorts of stories, we're not
going to have the result by
Tuesday night. We spend all this
money on computers. If you go
back to paper ballots and it's
watermarked, you know, paper is
now very sophisticated, believe
it or not.
In fact, the vast majority, over
97% of votes cast in this
election will be recorded on
paper the head of. Official in
charge of U S cyber security and
infrastructure, told the
NewsHour recently, first
got to remember election
infrastructure, the voting
systems where Americans cast
their ballots not connected to
the internet so very difficult
for somebody to hack into those
voting machines. Secondly, over
97% paper ballots that voters
can look at and verify
themselves. Yes, I
Adam Curry: should. This is a
lot. This is, I should clarify.
It was a paper ballot. I filled
it in with a pen, but it then
goes into the ballot scanner,
and that's where, and I don't
know if anyone else has it. When
you put it in and it sucks it in
and then I'm waiting for a
receipt, that's my that's that's
your immediate feelings like,
oh, shouldn't I have a receipt
this that shows that this is
what I voted for, because I
don't know what this machine has
now registered.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, exactly. So
that's not is that a paper
ballot? You Does that count as a
paper ballot? A paper ballot, to
me, is something you you fill
out, and then it goes into a
pile and somebody hand counts.
Well,
Adam Curry: they they keep the
paper ballot. That's the point
is that if there's Yeah, well
then go back like the paper when
you
John C Dvorak: use the Dominion
system, that's no paper coughs
out a paper ballot when you're
done with the barcode on it that
you can't read. No, I
Adam Curry: know, I know, and I
don't this is, this
John C Dvorak: is a bull crap
comment, yes, well, you're in
the
Adam Curry: part of the 3% it's
California and and there were,
there were some, some issues
with the Colorado voting
machines, which were not this is
that Colorado thinks she's
Secretary of State. She was the
the nut job with the Trump
derangement syndrome. Do you
remember her like, forget what
she was all what she had her
panties and a bunch about. But
now, now she's the calling for
her resignation for
Unknown: Terry of State under
fire tonight, her resignation
from Colorado Republicans. It
comes after partial passwords
for voting systems were posted
in a spreadsheet that anyone
could download from the
Secretary of State's website. We
talked
Adam Curry: to Secretary of
State Griswold this afternoon,
who says only partial passwords
were exposed, partial passwords
so she says it didn't pose and
John C Dvorak: partial password,
you get it back, it says P, A,
S, S, W, blank.
Adam Curry: I mean, I understand
what's going on, and I know that
it has it said, like a two
factor authentication with a
second password, which is
probably a general password, but
they're calling it partial
passwords, because that makes me
feel good. Only partial
passwords were exposed. So she
says it didn't pose an immediate
security threat to Colorado
election.
Unknown: Colorado's elections
have layers of security layers,
so you actually need two
passwords and physical access to
voting equipment to use those to
use the passwords for them to be
worth anything. A civil servant
who hid the tabs on that
spreadsheet is no longer with
the department is dead.
Secretary gristle says the
passwords were online for months
before her office was notified
last Thursday, demanding
she resigned. State Minority
Leader rose peg Lici released
these statements on behalf of
Colorado House Republicans,
saying, quote, while I have the
utmost trust in the integrity of
our county clerks who actually
oversee the counting of votes. I
have no trust that Secretary
Griswold is capable of leading
our election system. Enough of
her incompetence, it's time for
her to resign. Get
Adam Curry: rid of her. She
needs to go. Needs to go, so
that the couple other issues we
have a little more information
about the ballot box that was
lit on
Unknown: fire, we want to turn
now to the FBI investigation
into a suspected arson attack on
ballot drop boxes, one in Oregon
and one in Washington State. A
law enforcement source confirms
the incendiary devices used in
the sabotage were marked with
the words free. Gaza tonight,
police may strike again. CBS
Nicole scan gate. Developments.
All right, what have you learned
from your reporting? Isn't
Adam Curry: that interesting? So
it was some some anarchist,
leftist, socialist nut job who
did this. And we're not
outraged, not
Unknown: nor Investigators are
still searching for a motive in
these ballot box fires. But a
law enforcement source tells CBS
News it's still unclear whether
the suspect here is a pro
Palestinian sympathizer or just
trying to stoke controversy.
This is what's left of hundreds
of burnt ballots inside a drop
box in Clark County, Washington.
An election official said an
unknown number of other ballots
were destroyed. The FBI has
taken both incendiary devices to
their laboratory in Huntsville,
Alabama for forensic analysis,
and are still searching for a
male suspect who is driving this
dark colored Volvo sedan,
Adam Curry: Volvo.
Unknown: This should be easy.
You.
Anyway,
John C Dvorak: those damn Volvo
guys,
Adam Curry: I'm telling him and
but you know, the the rhetoric
is being cranked up and, well,
we're back to old hijinks.
People are stealing lawn signs.
It's an outrage, but, oh,
there's some tips from Reuters
if someone's trying to steal
your Kamala Harris lawn sign.
The fight for
Unknown: votes is raging, not
just in battleground states, but
also across the front lawns of
America. No many voters have
recently reported their campaign
lawn signs being stolen, and
they're going to great lengths
to fight back.
Adam Curry: Isn't this something
that's been done for 100 years,
people stealing lawn signs,
putting other lawn signs in.
Isn't this? I mean, have we not
heard this for five cycles that
this happens? I'm asking you.
It's not.
John C Dvorak: I don't know when
lawn signs even began. I don't
pay any attention to them, but,
Adam Curry: but this, this?
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I would assume
that people were defacing,
removing, replacing lawn signs
since days.
Adam Curry: Didn't the Trump
guy. I'm recalling that he
electrified his lawn sign. Well,
John C Dvorak: there's a guy who
electrified. My favorite one,
though, was somebody had placed
a there's a bunch of YouTube and
tick tock videos of this, these
gags, somebody had put a bunch
of like, bungee spikes over on a
lawn. Sign wasn't on lawn, but
it's on the side of the road, so
you could easily and some guy
did drive over and knock the
sign over with your car and then
get back on the road easily
enough, but it was you get a
flat tire doing it
Unknown: all right, so listen to
this. I think it's one of those
election year irritants, like
those spam fundraising text
messages you get, or the attack
ads you see on TV all the time.
The people I've talked to said,
not only is it theft, you're
stealing something from
somebody, but also you're
suppressing their free speech.
And to certain people, it can
feel a bit like voter
intimidation.
How are these frustrated folks
fighting back? Here we go. The
most ingenious
way to prevent this from
happening, or to at least catch
the thief, is the use of Apple
air tags, as opposed to two
people who did that, they had
their signs taken, then they put
one of those little tracking
devices on there, and when their
sign got stolen, both of them
said, well, they could see it
travel around in a car as the
car went to a house. And so then
they can call the police, and
the police can show up and say,
did you take this? Is this not
yours? Whereas otherwise it can
be very difficult to prosecute.
Police are not going to spend a
lot of time on something like
this when a theft is an item
that typically costs 20 bucks or
so. And then on top of that,
there's the more low tech
solutions. People say a common
way to protect your signs is to
smear them with Vaseline and
glitter. That way, the thief
touches the sign, they get
glitter and goop all over their
hands. And evidently it's very
hard to get glitter off your
hands. Oh, my,
Adam Curry: oh my,
John C Dvorak: c5 in a remote
control.
Adam Curry: C4 I don't know what
c5 No,
John C Dvorak: I don't you know.
Why do I keep I always say c5 I
think it has something to do
with that lucky jet, maybe.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. See for and
so while this is going on,
John C Dvorak: SEM, tech, SEM,
Texas, okay, well, all
Adam Curry: this is going on,
Rachel Maddow is still on MSNBC,
and she rolls out creaky
Victoria Newland,
Unknown: as I saw this, Russia,
Russia
Adam Curry: phobe emeritus. Oh,
John C Dvorak: she's the worst
two of them together. I'm
surprised the station didn't
explode. To
Adam Curry: just let us know
that Vladimir Putin is doing it
again, third
Unknown: election in a row in
which Russia has tried to
interfere, to try to get Trump
into the White House. How do you
assess the magnitude and that
the type of interference they're
attempting this year compared to
what they've done in his
previous two elections.
Well, as you said earlier,
Rachel, he's he's at it again.
This time. He's not even trying
to hide his his hand, and he has
far more sophisticated tools.
You know, his AI is better so he
can make these fake videos.
Adam Curry: His AI is so much
better now. So again, make these
fake videos.
Unknown: She has done things
like spend ten million trying to
buy American influencers, pool
boy,
Adam Curry: pool boy,
Unknown: and get them. This is
great.
Adam Curry: Oh, she should have
just said she got the pool boy
and Dave Rubin, and they really
changed people's minds
Unknown: is his lines and not
even know it's happening. But
he's also got a brand new very,
very powerful tool, which is
Elon Musk and you know, in
social media companies worked
hard with the US government to
try to do content moderation, to
try to catch this. Says it was
happening, but this time, we
have Elon Musk talking directly
to the Kremlin and ensuring that
every time the Russians put out
something like this, it gets 5
million views on X before
anybody can catch it.
Adam Curry: It is just sad to
see how low she has sunk. She's
running with every nonsense
thing that's been out is she
just reading Twitter and going,
Yeah, I'll talk about this on
Rachel's show. I mean, what this
is not this is not true. I mean,
oh, okay, he has better AI for
all what videos, what videos
has, has Putin done? And what
impact did this? Did the pool
boy and Dave Rubin have? What
impact? Oh, yes, he's back at it
again, the evil Putin. This is
just pathetic, really. It really
is pathetic. I don't know what
to make of it.
John C Dvorak: Well, there is
musk. Is the NPR is going after
Musk too. I guess Musk has put
out some fake ads that look like
camel ads that promote,
basically promote her actual
ideas. It's not like they're
bullshit, but you can play, I
have a clip of
Adam Curry: it, yeah. What do
you have? What do you have? Oh,
fake Musk ads, yeah. Fake
digital ad campaign backed by
billionaire Elon Musk is pushing
message. Elon. From now on the
show, we'll call him Elan. I
like that. This guy is reading
the news on NPR and is and
somehow believes that his name
is Elon. What is that? What is
the how
John C Dvorak: do you get? How
do you get to that point, after
all these years of listening
about Elon to say, Elon, it just
befuddles me.
Adam Curry: Maybe he was doing
the lawn sign story and he's
still stuck in it. Elon sign.
Elon. Elon Oh, Elon digital ad
campaign backed by billionaire
Elon Musk, is pushing messages
that are not tended to look like
they're from Vice President
Harris. Bobby
Unknown: Allen explains the ads
make false claims about Harris.
A series of political ads
appearing on Facebook falsely
say Kamala Harris wants to
institute a mandatory gun
buyback program and make it
easier for undocumented
immigrants to receive a driver's
license. They are from a group
called Building America's
future. You
Adam Curry: want me stop the
clip so you can complain about
that.
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying,
Okay, I'm sorry. You're right.
But I just want to mention that
what Elan has produced here is
what she's actually is part of
her policy from the 2019, 2020,
era. Yes, there's no evidence
that she's changed it. Oh, Elon,
series of
Unknown: political ads appearing
on Facebook falsely say Kamala
Harris wants to institute a
mandatory gun buyback program
and make it easier for
undocumented immigrants to
receive a driver's license. They
are from a group called Building
America's future, a pro Trump
outfit funded by Elon Musk, but
they look like they're from the
Harris campaign. Musk has spent
more than $100 million
bankrolling a Trump campaign
field operation. He appears at
Trump rallies, and he's expected
to have a role in the White
House if Trump is elected. The
billionaire has also turned his
social media platform x into a
powerful pro Trump machine.
Powerful he has been amplifying
misleading information about the
integrity of the US voting
system. The Washington Post
recently called musk, a human
October surprise.
Adam Curry: Well, please.
Meanwhile, the actual ads from
from the Democrats are
interesting. You've seen this
one, the the guy who's watching
porn on his phone and jerking
off in his bedroom.
John C Dvorak: I have not seen
I've heard about that one. The
one I've seen, I've seen the one
where the guys wink at the gay
guys wink at each other and they
vote for Harris, and there's a
and, or the two lesbians wink at
each other and tell their
husbands that they're
Adam Curry: How do you know the
lesbians? They're not lesbians.
You
John C Dvorak: could tell by the
way they're looking at it,
lesbians. No,
Adam Curry: that ad is about
about you don't have to vote,
who your husband tells you to
John C Dvorak: vote. I know what
the ad supposed to be about, but
what I'm seeing when I look at
lesbian you have gaydar. Now,
all of a sudden, I have Gator
always I'm in the Bay Area, you
have to have gaydar you
otherwise you can get hurt.
Adam Curry: All right, so the
guy's in his bedroom jerking
off.
Unknown: Sorry, you can't do
that.
John C Dvorak: What the hell,
man, how'd you get in here? I'm
your Republican congressman. Now
that we're in charge, we're
banning born nationwide.
Unknown: Can't tell me what to
do.
John C Dvorak: I won the last
election, so it's my decision.
I'm just gonna watch and make
sure you don't finish
Unknown: illegally. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: wow. That sounds
like one of the that sounds like
a Roger Stone Gambit there.
Adam Curry: Well, but it's not.
I mean. Project 2020 it
John C Dvorak: would put, what,
what more I would put that ad
out,
Unknown: yeah, some, some pack.
Well, there,
John C Dvorak: there's another
word, the porn pack. There's
Adam Curry: a porn pack.
John C Dvorak: The porn pack,
Adam Curry: yeah, there is a
porn pack out there who are very
worried that Trump will
implement, uh, Project 2025,
vision of making porn illegal,
which I'm pretty sure what's the
guy's name, Larry Flint did a
very good and in a way,
admirable job of proving that
that will not happen.
Unknown: It's free speech,
whatever you want. I mean, in
general,
Adam Curry: he was the porn
king, and he he fought it his
whole his whole life.
John C Dvorak: Well, I have not
seen that particular ad. It's
pretty bad. Is really bad?
Pretty bad. Well, he's a
Democrat, jerking off. What else
is new? So you
Adam Curry: want to hear one of
the emails that's going around
that family members are sending
to each other about what's going
to happen during this election.
John C Dvorak: Oh, this is now,
are we gonna we returning to the
nuttiness of the right? Well,
yeah, but yes, I
Adam Curry: think we should,
which is what I yeah, I love
this stuff. Yeah, so, and this
is one of our
John C Dvorak: producers line
where they're gonna shut down
the grid. Oh, man.
Adam Curry: I mean, so this is
from someone's aunt, and she
sent it to the whole family,
although not to, she didn't send
it to she even mentions it here.
I forget I took some of this out
because, you know, he said never
to email me again, so he's not
on the email list, email list,
so there's always an October
surprise during election years,
and we are running out of time.
Below is the expected schedule
of events, although order may
not be 100% print this now while
you're thinking about it, you
won't have access once things
begin, and you will wish you had
it for basic knowledge to lessen
the trauma we will all feel once
things start, everything will
move along quickly. Any wars,
alien invasion, pandemic or
plague you hear on the news is
all a lie. Try to stay positive
and calm as possible. Emotional
tension will be beyond anything
imaginable, as Bette Davis once
said in a movie, fasten your
seat belt. Is going to be a
bumpy ride. The countdown to
Release the Kraken is underway.
John C Dvorak: Don't think we're
back on the Kraken. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Didn't think they
would play it out this far. But
here we are. Oh yeah, Lee and
Megan still not copied per Lee's
instructions from each and every
email him again, leaving it to
his family to communicate or not
anticipated event schedule. And
this is, this is a family email,
seven messages before shutdown,
following instructions for
having supplies and returning
home. Of traveling you need to
prep with food, water, toilet
paper and other supplies. Have
gas for generators, full tank of
gas in each vehicle you own, in
case you need extra gas for
generators, if you have any, or
for some other use. Do you have
a siphon wood for wood stoves
and fireplaces? Solar
generators? Are they charged?
Might lose items in
refrigerators or have other food
options fill bathtubs with water
when the messages start coming
in, rather than when power goes
out, and having buckets for
pouring into toilets to use for
personal hygiene, spit baths.
Oh, my God, once martial law is
in place, wow, any military
scene are not going to be messed
with or approached to ask what's
going on. There will be a mix of
international military, and
it'll be a totally different
caliber. So do as you are told.
They won't be playing nice and
will only be here to keep the
peace. Make sure people have
food and necessities if they
didn't prepare, help if there's
a health issue, and to cart
people off to FEMA camps who
need to be picked up because
they participated in crimes
against humanity or treason. Do
not intervene in anything
they're doing or Off you go to
the FEMA camps. The FEMA camps
will be a rough experience, and
will appear people are going to
be killed.
John C Dvorak: Man, three
people. Is this just like a
comedy act?
Adam Curry: Three Days of
Darkness, no power, no internet.
We'll be on our own with only
military police about at some
point, there may be a fake
nuclear explosion that will seem
real and be very scary. I 10 to
18 days, okay? Disclosure, 10 to
18 days of lockdown. After the
three days of darkness, stay
where you are, follow
instructions. Riot and looting
are expected in some areas of
the country. Not much different
than the Summer of Love. The
news said was mostly peaceful.
Don't get involved. Disorder
will be wrapped up quickly.
Remain calm. There will be no
street lights limited. Power
turned on in our homes. Water
will be on again, as they
understand it, but we'll only
have a few plugs working. Oh,
Mike, I can't even read all of
this.
John C Dvorak: How do you get a
few plugs working? Here's my
best
Unknown: satanic sites. I.
Adam Curry: Mind altering or
deep underground tunnels that
were created to do horrific
things to adults and especially
children. These are iconic sites
to us around the world, but
during the disclosure that's
coming, John, the disclosure,
you will understand why they
were destroyed, and you will be
happy. Some of these have
already been taken care of, and
there are others, but these are
the most iconic. Evacuations
have already been done or will
be during the air raids, and no
one will die during the
destruction. So these are the
following iconic buildings that
are connected to underground
tunnels for the demonic forces
that will be destroyed, the
White House, the fake White
House in California, house, the
Vatican, the Ark of Baal.
Augusta, Germany, Castle,
John C Dvorak: the Ark of ball,
I
Adam Curry: don't know, the
Biltmore Hotel in coral. Gables,
Florida, Buckingham Palace. CERN
in Switzerland, oh, it says that
one's already done. CIA's
Bohemian Grove, Comet pizza in
Hollywood, Denver International
Airport, Epstein Island dome,
the Georgia Guidestones already
taken care of. The Hoover Dam,
the louver in France, London
bank one and two, the London
Bridge, the northern castle, the
Notre Dame, cathedral of France,
already done. Wow. I didn't know
that London
John C Dvorak: Bridge is in
Arizona.
Adam Curry: The original one is,
yes, yeah, the Opera House in
Sydney, Australia is going to be
gone. The Pentagon, the Playboy
Mansion, the Statue of Liberty,
Stonehenge, the Tesla building,
the Getty Museum, the Queen's
hunting lodge,
John C Dvorak: the US being
silly,
Adam Curry: I'm telling you, not
listed, but also taken care of
with the recent hurricanes, with
the Disney deep underground
tunnels and the North Carolina
mountain flooding for the secret
lithium mining that was going to
be used for nefarious purposes.
So I could read on and on. I'll
put some in the show notes.
John C Dvorak: Oh, you got to
send me this note. Yes, it's
Adam Curry: I'll send you the
it's an actual email forward
with the headers and everything.
I'll send that to you. But this,
this is, and I think people
like, I hate to say it, but Mike
Benz and Dan Bongino, they're
riling people up with this,
especially Bongino,
Unknown: oh yeah, oh
Adam Curry: yeah, oh no. The
rioting is coming. It's gonna
happen. It's gonna be like, BLM
on steroids. You know, even if,
even if the left wins, it's
just, it's like, it's crazy,
Unknown: it's kind of sad.
John C Dvorak: Well, when you
start talking about the Sydney
Opera House and the Statue of
Liberty, I know. And the rest of
them build being some sort of
gateway to hell, yeah, I
Unknown: know. I know.
John C Dvorak: It doesn't really
make any sense whatsoever. And
the fact that you could get to
the point where you actually say
these things, yeah, well, at
least this balances out with the
other side, so that you get that
nuttiness from both sides. But
we do, like we do, really off
the deep
Adam Curry: end, yeah, but, but
elements of this, I hear around
here, elements of it. And, you
know, when it comes from, like a
Bongino, or it comes from,
what's the name, Mike Benz or,
or it comes from now, Naomi
Wolf, or it comes from Laura
Logan. You know, these are the
people who were also correct
about certain things happening
with the pandemic and and with
vaccines and etc. So you could
understand the
John C Dvorak: stretch the
vaccine thing has an explanation
for everything. I mean, this is
it makes logical sense, there's
logic involved with vaccine
skepticism, but especially the
mRNA vaccine skepticism, there's
nothing, nothing illogic about
any of the arguments for or
against it. But mostly there is
some illogic to the arguments
for it. But this is nuts.
Adam Curry: Since, since you
brought it up, we just talked
about it, there is an NHS
doctor, and he works for, like,
you know, a proper National
Health System hospital. He's a
cancer specialist, James royal,
and he just did a full
presentation about what he is
seeing with I think he called
post post COVID vaccination
patients. And I think I should
play it. And this is not to
freak anybody out, but it's not
good.
Unknown: Finally, I need to talk
about cancer, particularly
colorectal cancers. In addition
to the increase in all cause
excess deaths in highly
vaccinated countries, since the
gene based injectable rollout,
there has been observed an
alarming and significant
increase in cancers. These
cancers have been termed
colloquially, Turbo cancers.
Obviously, this is not a
scientific. It turn but reflects
the different aggressive
biological nature that seems to
be being observed by the public
as well as clinicians. Despite
recent articles claiming that
the sudden growth in cancers is
not new, such as the gas
lighting article in the Daily
Mail reporting on a baffling
increase in trend in data from
1990 to 2019 there is a clear,
dramatic increase that occurred
in 2021 shortly after the
rollout. A robust study recently
published from Japan, now
redacted by the journal after
significant pressure so cancer
related excess mortality in
vaccinated populations. Cancers
being observed are in all ages.
It is my assertion, shared by
many experts, oncologists and
clinical colleagues around the
world, that the cancers we're
seeing are extremely aggressive
and are are of a different
biology. One study showed this
dramatic increase, particularly
in younger ages through 2021
5.6% increase. 2022 7.9%
increase. I've noticed
aggressive, widespread
recurrences in previously
successfully treated bowel
cancer cases that I consider
cured. Many metastases in these
cases are unusual or atypical.
Middle aged and elderly people
are presenting with out of the
blue, aggressive stage four
colorectal cancer who are
incurable and die within weeks
or months. In many of these
cases, the entire liver appears
to be filled with large, round
tumor masses. It is horrific to
see on a weekly basis in imbt.
In my experience, it is rare for
colorectal cancer to be as
aggressive in elderly, usually
sporadic cancers that are
diagnosed as still operable when
they present elderly patients
rarely present with stage four
disease, and certainly not in
the way I've started seeing many
of my multidisciplinary team
colleagues, fellow surgeons,
oncologists, pathologists,
radiologists and specialist
nurses. The safety signal from
both the MHRA and the VA ers
system in the United States is
unprecedented and undeniably
obvious. Now
Adam Curry: very dry, very
boring, but you can look at the
show notes, and his whole 30
minute presentation is really
mind blowing. It's not that we
haven't suspected this, but
here's a guy who's putting his
reputation on the line, and he
has spoken to many other
doctors, and they applaud him,
but they're most of them are
scared. I've had the
Unknown: opportunity to give
into an international surgical
meeting in London in march 2023
at the end, I was congratulated
on my perceived courage in
standing up and speaking about
these concerns. There was
general agreement in the room 30
or more surgeons, many offered
acknowledgement and similar
observations, but had been
unwilling to raise their
concerns for fear of
repercussions. In fact, a rather
alarmed eminent retired surgeon
present stated it was our duty
to raise these concerns. In
conclusion, the data are clear
that COVID 19 vaccines are
neither effective or safe. My
own personal observations have
been increasingly backed up by
other data around the world and
research studies, as well as
experts opinion in other
centers. I personally demand
that these injections and any
promotion of them be stopped
with immediate effects, anyway.
John C Dvorak: So that was a
bunch of people demanding this.
It hasn't gone anywhere. And
he's specifically talking for
the people out there listening
to this who got a shot or two.
He's talking about people with
multiple, you know, the I think
it's up to nine shots now, and
they're recommend getting the
latest and greatest. And
Adam Curry: they're recommending
two shots this season. Two more,
two more. CDC just came out. We
recommend you get two shots this
season.
John C Dvorak: There's also, you
know, I don't have a clip, and I
wish I could find something, and
I think I had saw something, and
I couldn't recover it. It's hard
to say where they're saying,
Well, you know the thing,
they're going to combine the flu
shot and the COVID shot, yeah,
because the flu there's, there's
no way nobody's getting the flu
anymore.
Adam Curry: Gee, I wonder how
that works. Hmm, I'm gonna,
before we take a break, remember
our overall thesis is, and I
think we've shown some more
possible evidence today, with
the Karine Abdul Jabbar, Jean
Pierre Van Dam, sabotaging the
Harris campaign, with with the
garbage comet certainly
sabotaging any kind of momentum
the Hitler rally had, and just
handed a beauty to Trump.
There's so many people who
benefit from a Trump presidency,
and the biggest one, I think, is
this pivot to China, to China,
and when ship building, then
ship building? Well also space.
Space is also a big one, and
this space would be good.
Lockheed Martin, people
John C Dvorak: will be too
upset.
Unknown: It's China's latest
attempt at edging closer to its
goal of becoming a space
superpower. Its senjo 19
blasting off into the cosmos
Wednesday, and launch
authorities have hailed a
triumph.
The spacecraft solar panels are
extended and functioning
normally. I hereby announce the
Shenzhou 19 manned spacecraft
launch mission a complete
success. This will
be the taikonal temporary home
for the next six months, and the
Tiangong space station. It's
here that the crew will carry
out experiments intended to
help. China prepare for its most
difficult mission yet landing
astronauts on the moon by 2030
in Beijing's growing appetite
for high risk missions is
increasingly making the United
States uncomfortable. In April,
NASA's chief warned us lawmakers
that Beijing wants to stake
territorial claims, arguing its
space program is also a military
one. Speaking on Monday, China's
Foreign Ministry spokesperson
seemed to deny such claims.
China stays committed to the
peaceful use of outer space and
opposes an arms race in outer
space or weaponizing outer
space. China has no intention to
engage in a race with other
countries in space and doesn't
seek to gain an edge in space
before
getting astronauts to the moon.
Beijing is celebrating the
milestones achieved in
Wednesday's launch among its
crew, the country's only female
space engineer. She's also one
of the youngest taikonauts from
China to blast off into space.
Somebody
Adam Curry: better land on the
moon pretty quick. Otherwise
it's gonna look like we never
went there. 2040, 2030, 2040,
whatever. Impress me. Oh, look,
I compare they'll park it all
right. But the most you know me,
the most damning evidence that
the pivot to China is on was
General Milley, who will whore
for anybody was speaking at the
American Bankers Association
with most of the big CEOs in the
room. Now, if you want to, you
know, if you want to talk about
money and how we're going to
handle China, China, and how
we're going to finance the big,
beautiful ships and the
submarine bases and everything,
you want General Milley to go
there, and he now he didn't have
his uniform on, which is a
little disappointing, but here's
what he had to say about China.
Unknown: Is the possibility, not
the probability, but the
possibility of armed conflict
between two great powers, United
States and China. China has the
natural resources, the people,
the population and, most
importantly, the money to
challenge the United States on a
global scale. First time in
Chinese history they have now,
44 years later, 45 years later,
developed the world class
military. Now they're not equal
yet. The United States military
is still the most powerful, most
effective force in the world,
and the Chinese know that. But
the Chinese are trying to
develop their military to a
point where they will be the
dominant military in East Asia,
western Pacific, at least by the
mid 30s, and maybe earlier.
President Xi has told his
generals to develop the
capability. He didn't say he was
going to invade, but to develop
the capability to invade the
island of Taiwan and seize it by
2027 which is right around the
corner. Now, that doesn't mean
he's perfect, prime
Adam Curry: perfect. We have the
economy cycle collapsing in 2026
we need to build it up. What are
we going to build it up with
military industrial complex for
the 2027 invasion, ability to
Unknown: invade the island of
Taiwan and seize it by 2027
which is right around the
corner. Now, that doesn't mean
he's going to do it. He told his
guys to develop the capability
to do it. And there's some
symbology there, because it's
the 20 20/700 anniversary
Adam Curry: symbology. Doesn't
even mean symbolism. He's
symbology. He
Unknown: told his guys to
develop the capability to do it.
And there's some symbology
there, because it's the 2027 is
the 100th anniversary of the
People's Liberation Army as
well. But by the mid 30s,
China's intent is to be the
dominant military, diplomatic,
economic power in all of Asia by
mid century, by 2049
Adam Curry: you and I will be
dead by then, it's China's
Unknown: aspiration to be the
number one global military
diplomatic power, at least co
equal, but preferably superior,
to the United States in terms of
its economic throw weight and
its military. Now, will China
get there or not, very much, an
open question, and that could go
in a lot of different
directions. China is not 10 feet
tall. They have all kinds of
internal problems and so on so
forth. But it is worth paying
very close attention to, because
they are probably the one
country who has the legs in the
distance that could literally
challenge the United States
position on a global scale. So
Adam Curry: the setup is here,
the setup. It's primed and
ready. Oh, by the way, Russia,
you know, they got news. It's
really China.
Unknown: Russia clearly is an
acute threat. It's dangerous.
They obviously have a lot of
nuclear weapons, and they're
engaged in active, the biggest
ground war in Europe since 1945
but it's really China challenge.
It to the United States, and
it's more complicated. We're
living in a multi polar world
now. So we've got three great
powers, United States, Russia
and China. During the Cold War,
we had. Two immediately
following the Cold War, it was a
Unipolar Moment, as people say.
So, for a short period of time,
the United States clearly was
preeminent and the only real
superpower out there. But today,
it's clear we're in a multi
polar world, and that's really
growing in a lot of different
ways, and it's a much more
complex world today than it was
not too long ago,
Adam Curry: China, American
Bankers Association, they're
going for China. And you know
what? It still would not
surprise me if Trump is talking
to Xi saying, Listen, you can
rattle the sword a little bit.
Do your do your bit? Whatever.
Taiwan, blah, blah, blah. I need
to build me some ships. I need a
dome. I need an Iron Dome. This
that that will be the only
saving grace, I think, for our
economy, is to have a new new
new threat, which will be China,
and then build new new new gear.
What else are we going to do
while we're waiting for the
tariffs to kick in? Just
thinking, I don't know,
pragmatically, pragmatically.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: we make most of
our money from build building
war gear.
Adam Curry: War gear. And with
that, I'd like to thank you for
your courage. Say in the morning
to you, the man who put the C in
the off the cuff podcast, say
hello to my friend on the other
end, the one only, Mr. John C
Good
John C Dvorak: morning to you.
Mr. Adam curry, also in the
morning, all the ships and sea
boots on the ground, feeding the
air subs in the water, and all
the Dames and nights out. Hello,
Adam Curry: hello, hello. In the
morning, of course, we've got
1902, I can remember that means
we're 100 above our average.
Yeah, I finally, finally did it.
Finally did it, and that's
because of garbage. Garbage is
good. Garbage is good for
business. Wouldn't you say
garbage is doing good for us?
Seems to be, yeah, hey, trolls
welcome. Trolls are in the troll
room. Troll room. They do have
the Halloween
John C Dvorak: clips for later
in the show.
Adam Curry: Oh, whoo. I'm so
excited. That's great. Well,
John C Dvorak: it's Halloween,
you know, yeah. Do you have you
give candy to the kids that come
by or don't even bother? No.
Adam Curry: Well, first of all,
there's very I think the first
year we were here, we had some
candy, but no one comes by. The
kids here from away on the other
side street, they come by and
selling stuff. Hey, I started a
new sewing company. You want to
buy this? They're entrepreneurs
here. They're not out trick or
treating. We just turned no
trick or
John C Dvorak: just pathetic,
Adam Curry: oh no in town, but
we're a little bit out of town.
We just turn the lights off and
sit here in the dark watching,
oh,
John C Dvorak: you're one of
those, watching Seinfeld turn
the lights off, honey. So the
kids won't come.
Adam Curry: Well, the kids, are
they gonna walk all the way up
to your front door? You just
throw some stuff down at the
bottom. I
John C Dvorak: could, I could. I
had them all stay down there and
I throw stuff at him, pennies. I
feel like John Rockefeller,
Adam Curry: have a roll of
pennies. Kids,
John C Dvorak: some pennies.
Adam Curry: And the trolls are
listening at troll room.io.
They're listening live. It's the
no agenda stream. It's quite a
phenomenon. It's filled with all
whole bunch of off the cuff
podcasts. But it's quite the
community. People love
listening, creating themselves.
It's a lot of it's live, and if
not, we roll out podcasts on
schedules. It's really good. Sir
beroz manages most of that. It's
very, very good job with cotton
gin and everyone's got some
kooky name, and the trolls
troll, and this, it's true,
freedom of speech. They do
whatever they want to say. By
John C Dvorak: the way, I do
have a good suggestion for
people, giving out stuff to the
kids when they come by.
Adam Curry: THC, gummies, soup,
Unknown: soup, soup.
Adam Curry: Have you ever tried
that
John C Dvorak: I'm thinking
about, yeah, and everyone
should. Every kid gets a bowl of
soup. What
Adam Curry: kind of soup were
you thinking? You
John C Dvorak: know, kids like
chicken noodle. That would
Adam Curry: be good soup. Don't
go to that house. That guy's
nuts. Have you ever seen his
office? No, I hear it's
horrible. You can also listen to
the podcast and the live stream
in a modern podcast app, which
is a great way to do it if
you're on now, if you have Apple
intelligence, I'd say, don't use
the apple podcast app. Get cast.
O Matic from the App Store is
really good. It's only on on
iPhones, but it's, it's a
fantastic app. You
John C Dvorak: told me something
to email that I'm I have to
bring up, okay, Apple is doing
transcripts of podcasts. Yes,
Adam Curry: so podcasting 2.0
John C Dvorak: do I think that's
illegal? Let
Adam Curry: me finish with the
statement. Podcasting two point.
Point Zero created the standard
for inserting into your feed a
transcript of the episode, and
so we we use otter.ai actually,
we just one of our producers
says they have an AI transcript
company, and they've offered us
free transcription. So I'm going
to take them up on that offer if
they're any good, which probably
is no agenda producer. And so we
had those running for a couple
years, and that was kind of a
big win for us, because Apple
now adopted the podcasting 2.0
standard. They put it in their
docs. But the way it works with
them is, if you don't have, if
you don't explicitly say, I have
my own transcript, they will
make their own transcript of
your podcast, and I do it for
every single one, and you say
that is illegal,
Unknown: they're making a copy,
John C Dvorak: a written copy,
of the of the COP of copyrighted
material. You can't just copy it
without permission. Oh,
Adam Curry: you make a huge
mistake. You can't just put your
stuff onto apple in the to be
available on the Apple podcast
app, unless you sign their EU
law.
John C Dvorak: Also the EU law,
Adam Curry: oh yeah, oh yeah,
okay. They can do whatever they
want. That's why we created
podcast index, because those
guys were the default on ramp,
and you had to register and sign
their you lot, same as Spotify.
Unknown: Yeah, exactly. Screw
them. So,
Adam Curry: rock against the
man, rock against the power. Get
your own transcript that spells
John C Dvorak, wrong. That's
what we want. Get some humor
from the from the wonky boys
over at podcasting 2.0 and those
apps, by the way, have all kinds
of things Apple doesn't have.
For instance, it updates within
90 seconds of publishing an
episode. You don't have to wait
hours. Sometimes it takes with
Apple, and you get chapters that
they don't have, the cloud
chapters and also, when we go
live, you get the live stream
with a notification when we send
out the bat scene was a
beautiful thing. Now you've
probably also noticed we don't
want advertisements. We never
have 17 years or 17 years in one
episode. Now, we've never had an
advertisement. We've run this
value for value, and you're
starting to explain it more
frequently in the newsletter. I
noticed, which I think is good
explain to people that we put
this show out there for free,
you know, and we consider it to
be valuable. We put a lot of
time and effort into it. I'm
sorry, it's really just off the
cuff. We just kind of sit down
and off
John C Dvorak: the cuff, off the
cuff. We just got his dad lived
the whole show. Yeah, that's
exactly
Adam Curry: what we do. And all
we ask is that you return the
value whenever it's convenient
to you, and whatever amount is
convenient to you. For some
people, it's more than others,
but they may have more money, or
they may have more time to have
more producers. That's right.
And we have, well,
John C Dvorak: that's actually
not possible, if you think about
it, no one has nobody can have
more producers than the no
agenda show. In fact, we have
the podcast 1000s with 1000s.
Adam Curry: We have no
listeners. That's the best part
about our podcast. We have no
listeners. We only have
producers, and they deliver
time, talent and treasure, and
one example of the time and the
talent is our no agenda artists,
many of them Dutch masters. Now
it was our 17th anniversary on
the last episode, Episode 1707
on the 27th of November, lots of
sevens. We titled it sweet 17.
And it was very hard to find a
good piece of art. It was
John C Dvorak: funny that it was
difficult as it was. Yeah,
Adam Curry: and Francisco
scaramenga, who was always very
complimentary when we choose his
artwork, even though you think
he hates us, which,
John C Dvorak: oh, he does, No,
he doesn't. I heard him well
last time I was on that Mastodon
thing, I All he did was berate
the show and
Adam Curry: us. Maybe you should
just forgive him. I think, I
think you're hanging on to it
too much.
John C Dvorak: No, I'm hanging
on to because a good bit.
Adam Curry: So scaramanger
brought us the and he's
John C Dvorak: producing more.
He is way more. He
Adam Curry: is producing more.
Scaramanger brought us the
artwork for for our 17th
anniversary, which was not
exactly clear what it was, but
it was a big block that looked
kind of like that. What's that
thing that all the Muslims go
to? Yeah, the cube in Mecca.
Yeah, the Mecca cube with the
big 17 on it and and little
figures running around. It was,
it was actually
John C Dvorak: named for one of
our Muslim producers in the chat
room will tell us exactly what
it's called. I can't think
Adam Curry: Muslim producers
where Coronavirus of Dog Patch
and lowers labovia. What
happened to him?
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
interesting, because he hasn't
shown up for a while. And I
figured, oh god, this. I was
worried she could be so I
brought it up at the with Jay
and. Uh, Brennan rover and and
Jay just calmly says, you know,
because of all the action going
on in the Middle East, she says,
you know, he might be working
Adam Curry: good point, Jay, he
just might be worried the Cuba,
Cuba, Cuba, Cuba, yeah, they
John C Dvorak: could. They could
pronounce uh, yeah. He might be
more work. He might be, you
know,
Adam Curry: he definitely has a,
we don't know exactly what he is
or what he does, but we're
pretty sure it's something
clandestine, and we hope he's
okay. Well,
John C Dvorak: he must be. It
has to be because he's so he
sends cash, yeah, from looks
like, you know, fresh hundreds
and $2 somebody could have just
said, Hey, wait, why is this
pile of hundreds going down?
Adam Curry: Hey, let me grab
that.
John C Dvorak: What are you
doing with this stuff?
Adam Curry: Maybe got burned
along with the ballots you never
know. Who knows? You never know.
So we did. We haven't heard from
him. And, you know, at this
worries couple months. Yeah, I'm
always worried. And if it
doesn't matter who I was happy
to hear from, sir, Chris Wilson,
again, who I did a TED talk
recently.
John C Dvorak: Chris did a TED
talk, yeah, oh, you didn't know
that. Or is it TEDx? No, I'm
Adam Curry: sorry. It's a TEDx.
Let me see. I think I have,
think I have a piece of it here.
Yeah, this is a piece of his TED
talk. What do
Unknown: we do with all this
data? We use algorithms that
parse this massive catalog of
data using deep iteration, or
DI.
Adam Curry: It's called
redefining artificial
intelligence Now, d i
John C Dvorak: Your favorite
talks? Yeah,
Unknown: Chris is a funny guy.
Adam Curry: But anyway, the
point being, you know, even Luke
wonder helm came back on the
scene, and he had left. He had
rage quit, because, you know, we
weren't taking Russia seriously
enough. And Ukraine, Ukraine, I
said, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine
and but he's been listening
again, which is nice. So I'm on
John C Dvorak: this is a great
show. The fact that people rage
quit and refuse to listen, but
not if they refuse to listen,
the only excuse I've ever Well,
I said, driving a truck for all
you know. And I could listen to
this show the six hours a show a
week, but now I'm at home, or
I've got a different job, or I
work in the office. I got no
commute. I don't you know if you
Yeah, habituated to listening on
a commute? Yeah? Okay,
Adam Curry: but, and by the way,
garbage guys, I'll just call
them garbage guys. Love us. My
garbage guy here and tell me you
get this service. So Sunday
night, I was really tired after
the show and, you know, and just
we went to bed early, and then
nine o'clock on Monday, Tina
says, Did you take the garbage?
I'm like, Oh, I completely
forgot. I text the guy. He's
like, no problem. We'll come
back in an
Unknown: hour. I mean, that's
pretty cool.
John C Dvorak: You have a your
garbage guy, your sanitation
engineers, text message, text
message. Phone number, yeah,
Adam Curry: oh yeah, wow. And I
don't think he even knows about
the show or anything, but
John C Dvorak: tell no, listen
to the show. He might like it.
He probably would.
Adam Curry: Everybody here likes
the show. Hey, man, I was in a
12 foot hole. The other day,
drinking seriously. I heard last
night 12 foot hole in a 12 foot
hole for a septic system. I was
talking to Eric, and Eric says
he mows your lawn. Everybody
knows everybody around here is
great. Around here is not the
same. No, no, you don't even
know your neighbors. Normally
do. All
John C Dvorak: my neighbors. You
don't want to talk to him. We're
suing one of them halfway.
Adam Curry: Stop the press. What
do you sue? By the way, neighbor
disputes can get ugly. What is,
what is happening? Oh,
John C Dvorak: it's just, it's
just a it's a long story. It's
been going on for a couple
years, and it's costing a lot of
lawyer money. But you should be
able to, can you explain? I'm
not going to talk about talk
about it. Is
Adam Curry: it about offense?
John C Dvorak: Well, if there is
a fence involved, but it's not
specifically about defense,
Adam Curry: wow. You're like the
Osbornes, oh, man, you're one of
those neighbors, huh? Or you're
John C Dvorak: the good No,
we're not one of those
neighbors. The other neighbors,
the one impinging. Oh,
Adam Curry: they're impinging on
your turf.
Unknown: Yeah,
Adam Curry: I gotcha anyway.
Thank you for the other tries I
like the Carter, 17 trips around
the sun. What was that? What
Unknown: was that sound?
Adam Curry: Odd sound? No, I
heard some kind of odd sound on
what came from.
John C Dvorak: Let's see what
else you got a home invasion
taking place.
Adam Curry: So I guess so trying
to think, was there anything
else that we liked at all? I'm
not sure. No,
John C Dvorak: actually, there
you go. Was a paltry selection.
And what there wasn't even a
cake, birthday cake with the 17
on. I mean, there's simple
stuff. Was
Adam Curry: that would have won
a simple birthday. Cake would
have won. I
John C Dvorak: think it would
have too. Yeah, and, yeah. And I
thought the key, I thought the
cube was basically, was
basically lame. And you're,
Adam Curry: you're like, wow,
look at nestwork, 777 on the
jackpot. I'll say, what does
that have to do with 17? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: the seven seven,
yeah. You're, yeah, I like the
piece. And then that you
mentioned, what's the 777? Got
to do with 17? If it was all 17
that have been funny? Yeah. No,
they were not. This is I you
attributed this to the fallback
on AI as kind of, actually, I
was, I was listening to, there's
a show they had locally about,
what do you think about this
cold it's got some lame name.
It's just a filler show on KTVU,
and they were talking about
people who use their GPS to go
to the store, to drive home.
They always so the route home,
which you've gone to a million
times. Do you still have your
GPS on, showing you to take a
left, take a right. And
everybody said yes to this. And
I've noticed that everybody in
the family uses GPS. It's on all
the time. I stopped, well,
because I don't have a phone
anymore, but I stopped using it
some years ago, the GPS because
I want to find my way around.
Yeah, keep I want to be able to
literally find my way around
without having to Google. Tommy,
take a left, take a right,
because you start to lose your
sense of yes, when you when you
push. And that's what's
happening with the AI art. Yes,
Adam Curry: that's exactly it.
You're right. It's filled up
with slop. Most of it is man,
okay, uninteresting. And I think
the true artists go like, Oh,
well, look at all that. That's
better than them. And they give
up. They give up. It's the
saddest thing AI is ruining the
show. Did you see apples? Do you
see Apple's Apple intelligence
release?
John C Dvorak: I seen a lot of
their ads where their phones are
flying to the store. But do you
want it? You want to hear it
actually came out with
something, because it's all been
vapor, where, as far as I can
tell,
Adam Curry: would you like to
hear the report from KTLA is
technology reporter about the
apple here we
Unknown: go. Apple intelligence
is here to learn more about it.
I went to the Apple Store where
they're doing pop up demos as
part of their today at Apple
session.
Please sit. Please get
comfortable and welcome to say
hello to Apple intelligence
tomorrow. Austin is my guide.
It's really the
best part about Apple
intelligence is how intuitive
and easy to use it is.
Not all the features are
available just yet, but you'll
get new writing tools just
like what you want, and then
immediately rewrite
it. I love it. You don't to hop
between apps to do this. It's
all right there,
yes, which is the best part, no
third party apps, no moving
around. These
let you highlight text and
rewrite it in different styles.
It works anywhere there's a
blinking cursor. Emails have a
new summarize button at the top
and a I can help you reply
automatically suggesting
responses to any questions in an
email by
prioritizing and saving time.
That's really what Apple
intelligence is all
about. The photos app has a new
cleanup tool, which lets you
remove unwanted people or
objects from your photos. Siri
is also getting smarter. Set a
timer for 17 minutes. I mean six
minutes. The voice assistant
will better understand your
requests, even if you stumble,
and there's a new way to type to
Siri. Wow, that's new double
tap, double tap. The bottom of
your screen pops up a Siri asks
apples. AI has a colorful glow
and whimsical animations, and
Apple says it's doing all of
this in a way that protects the
privacy of your data. It's been
designed
with privacy from the ground up,
so from the moment that you
open, moment that you open your
device to any time you use an
app, those privacy implications
are built right
John C Dvorak: in. There you go.
Terrible reports. Boy sets a
timer. When is that new?
Adam Curry: No, he stumbled. He
said, set a timer for 50. Oh,
no, six minutes. And Apple was
so smart it figured it out.
Instead of him, just like
setting the timer, it's
nonsense. It's it's lame. And so
instead of fixing your email
like you know your spam, it does
summaries. It does summaries of
your text so text messages, if
they weren't short enough, it
summarizes text messages in the
preview,
John C Dvorak: text messages are
always short, well
Adam Curry: as I message man, so
someone sent me a screenshot.
His mom had texted him that hike
almost killed me.
John C Dvorak: Oh yes, the
classic This is going around,
yeah, and you
Adam Curry: saw the the summary
was attempted suicide, but
recovered and hiked in Redlands
and Palm Springs. Yes,
John C Dvorak: yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah, oh, this, it's
worth $150 billion investment is
great. I think, I think it's
well worth it,
John C Dvorak: even though this
is subject to riding. What we're
going to see here, and that's
all it's going to be a good for,
was ridicule,
Adam Curry: a Polish radio
station. They had announced two
weeks ago, we're shutting it
down when we're creating all AI
personalities, we're firing all
the staff. And the listeners
revolted. They had to go, oh no,
we're hiring back now, which I
think is probably a good thing
anyway. Let's get to the
treasure portion of, oh, by the
way, no agenda, Art
generator.com, we kind of
strayed away from that. You can
listen to that in real time.
Refresh it in real time. You can
participate. That's the beauty
of it. You know, it doesn't have
to be AI. It could be sometimes
we've taken just a scribble that
was photo copied. Can be
anything. As long as you've got
the right creativity in there,
we'll recognize it. We recognize
genius here, especially from
Dutch masters, no agenda, Art
generator.com, and by the way,
it's not just for the art for
the show. Dr Scott uses many of
those images for Chapter
artwork, which is a delight when
you're driving along with a
modern podcast app. Now for the
treasure portion, we'd like to
thank our executive and
Associate Executive producers.
Again, we have no listeners only
producers, just like Hollywood,
when you come in with more money
because you can afford it. I'll
be honest about it. That's how
it usually works in Hollywood,
too. We'll give you a special
mention and a credit, just like
Hollywood, these are valid
anywhere that credits are
recognized, including imdb.com,
which you'll go ahead take a
look. All the Hollywood stars
are there, all the big producers
you can be there now, as well,
over 1000 no agenda producers
are listed. $200 and above, you
become an Associate Executive
Producer with that forever,
lifetime credit, and we'll read
your note. $300 and above, whoa,
$300 above. And you become an
executive producer, and we read
your note. Are you okay? What
are you doing? You fall down.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm sorry I
was looking out the window,
since that Amazon Prime truck
just drove,
Adam Curry: boy, you make a lot
of noise when you look out the
window. And we kick it off,
starting with our top executive
producer, who comes in with
$1,000 $31,030.26 which I'm
thinking is because he added the
fees. So it's an Insta
something. Well Actually he says
slipping into the wire, just
like most of my college classes
and a Commodore as a bonus. No
brainer, how exactly do I sign
correspondence? Now says, Sir,
who debt of who debt of the Hall
of Fame city PhD and soon to be
Commodore? How do you sign your
correspondence if you're a
Commodore? I don't know, but you
should have an answer for this.
I
John C Dvorak: know I should
maybe comedy just put Commodore
down there. Put a comma at the
end of your name, put Commodore.
All right, that would work.
Unknown: All right. All right.
Thank you very much.
John C Dvorak: That's not a
question that's come up.
Unknown: Thank you very much,
sir. Who that? Who that, who
that,
John C Dvorak: who must be in
New Orleans, who that? That's my
guess. Who did, yeah, who dad.
That's what this used to be, a
phrase they used one of the
football teams used, who dad,
who debt? I think it was the
saints, or they used to be
called the ain't until they won
the Super Bowl. Okay,
Adam Curry: some sports ball
humor on the show, wow,
John C Dvorak: sir. Artless
chance, yeah, I know it's gonna
go over like a lead brick. Uh,
sir. Artless chance in, oh, hey,
we, there's our Portugal. Yes, I
noticed port in Porto, the home
of, of, of port, which is, uh,
the Finder. I had my for some
reason. I don't know. I have no
idea why this happened. I pushed
a button and it scrolled to the
bottom. There we go. Switcheroo.
He writes, after 33 years in
Hong Kong, my Chinese wife and
and I a German retro bait have
settled in Portugal. Yeah, they
Adam Curry: must tentacles. What
they must be criminals. That's
where all the criminals go. Yes,
no. Criminals go to Portugal.
John C Dvorak: Everybody in
Great Britain goes there if they
can retire. Yeah. But the
tentacles of the EU have this
beautiful country in a tight
embrace, and the Portuguese
largely do not see this as a
problem. You doing, man, as
citizens of the world, we would
like all of us. Would like, like
all of us to come together. You
and John have done a stellar job
in the past 17 years. Hopefully,
the nucleus that you've created
will continue to thrive. But as
any good fathers know, late
adolescence is still far from
Independence. 1717, so please
give us four more years, sir.
Artless chance. Please Knight
me, Knight my wife as dame.
Velocity, 432,
Unknown: you consider it done.
John C Dvorak: He came in with
1000
Adam Curry: Dollars surveillance
from Brentwood, Tennessee,
$500.52 greetings from
surveillance. Retired a wax
spook and proud dad. We got
spooks. I'm donating $500.52 in
a switcheroo for my no agenda.
Fan and B 52 pilot Kim, that's
his daughter to make her the
highest ranking bomber pilot in
the US Air Force as a Commodore
FYI, is not uncommon for these
guys to fly 24 hours plus
missions in one go, projecting
our might. Thanks for keeping
her brain free, which she
handles the part of the freedom
for the rest of us while she
handles that part of the
freedom. Well, thank you. We
appreciate Kim, and she will,
she will receive the Commodore
ship, beautiful.
John C Dvorak: You know, he had
a, I have to go find it. I would
give you this later. He has a
quiz for you because he you're
the aviator, and he wanted me to
pull a quiz on you that he
figured you can't get right if
you tried.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's fun,
yeah. And you promptly forgot to
bring it to the party.
John C Dvorak: I know you know I
remembered it, but then at the
same time, I said, Well, I can
find this. It's on the email.
And then I'm
Adam Curry: falling apart. Man,
you're falling apart. It's
always I'm falling apart.
Studios falling apart.
Everything's falling apart.
John C Dvorak: Studio is not
falling apart, okay? Oh, I'm
sorry. I'm looking for the
email, and I forgot that there's
a guy listed here, and this will
be Martin Graf in Grandville,
Ohio, and he came with 500 500 I
guess he wants a Commodore ship
belatedly, and we're still
giving him out and so, but he
didn't put a note. So it's no no
jingles, no karma, no nothing.
And he gets a double up karma.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: Then we move to Kirk
Crawford in Lomita. Lomita,
California, $500 he says, I have
been listening since the daily
source code days, and then on to
no agenda. Show you've been a
great help in understanding how
the world works over these many
years. This donation is just the
beginning of what I want to
contribute for all the value you
have given me. You see how this
value for value thing works. It
really does work. I love it.
That's fantastic. Thank you so
much. Appreciate it. The
Commodore title will be
Commodore Kirk of the South Bay,
and of course, you will go to no
agenda rings.com you give us
your information, what you want
on your Commodore certificate,
and we will get that off to you
as soon as possible. Jingle,
request, Obama, no, no, no, no,
no, and anything from Al
Sharpton, thank you for your
courage.
Unknown: I've been watching you.
John C Dvorak: So now we go to
Sir carries in Dracut, dry or
Dracut. I figured, you know, I
don't how do you pronounce that?
Pronounce that in Massachusetts,
nuts Dracut. And he's got 500
bucks in there, and he says,
Thanks for all you
Adam Curry: do. Carries
beautiful Matt Asbury in
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin, wauwa Tosa
500 and he has all caps. And so
my fellow slaves Ask not what
jingles Adam can play for you.
Ask what value you can provide
to the best podcast in the
universe. Well stated future
Commodore smelt from the Lake
Michigan, carrier group. Thank
you very much.
John C Dvorak: So I found a quiz
if you want to try
Adam Curry: it, let's go. Go for
quiz. Go for quiz. You go for
quiz.
John C Dvorak: It's called, he
wants it as an ask him. He says,
aviation trivia on the B, 52 the
don't poke this up. How would I
know this? Okay, but yeah, you
can take a guess. How far back
from the nose is the nose gear
wheel on a, b, 5223 feet, 31
feet or 38 feet.
Adam Curry: Again, can I, can I?
Could you use it in a sentence?
How far back is the is the notes
essay? Again?
John C Dvorak: How far back is
the nose gear on A, B, 5223
feet, 31 feet or 38 feet,
Unknown: I'll say 23 feet.
John C Dvorak: Cancer, the B 52
is the only plane with no, no.
Adam Curry: I was a trick
question.
John C Dvorak: Haha. That was
great. Thank you. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, okay, all right, kind of
hard to resist. Yeah,
Unknown: I understand. Where are
we, like,
John C Dvorak: what is this?
Why? Newell? Yeah, Quint, way.
Quint, right. Newell. Why
Newell, and he's in Olympia,
Washington. 500 bucks, dude,
it's been too long appreciate
the extension for us lazy asses,
extension for Commodores, that's
called the grace period. Would
be, I will continue it until
these crap out. Yeah, we'll be
honored. And love to add a
Commodore to my no agenda
diploma. Commodore Q, if you
will. By the way, everyone
should go to no agenda rings.com
and fill out the Commodore
details. Yes, speaking of lazy
asses, I reached night status A
while back, so please Knight me
too while you're at it, sir.
Sigma, all right, no jingles, no
karma.
Adam Curry: Bowman McMahon,
Bowman, Bowman, Bowman, Bowman
McMahon. He's from San Anton,
Texas, $500 he says, donate.
Jingle please. Thanks. Y'all
Donate.
Unknown: Donate. Wow,
John C Dvorak: sir, Nick is up,
and he's the dragon of the four
domains in Waterford, Michigan.
Okay, that's what he is. Since
the link is still open, I'm
hoping this takes me to a
Commodore and a baron. So if
possible, I'd like a title
change to Sir Nick dragon and
purveyor of the of the the
blank, blank Blarg. Blarg. Or at
least I hope it does,
considering my accounting sheet
is enclosed. If Michigan is open
or abandoned, I will take that.
Otherwise, I will default to my
land of ancestry, the
Philippines. Please give me a
por la Manana, John's gonna, uh
hum the Sunday Times. And this
an old one, classic, and some
relationships, single millennial