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I call bogus.
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's Thursday, March 27th, 2025.
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This is your award-winning Keyone Nation Media
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Assassination Episode 1750.
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This is no agenda.
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Fat-fingered and broadcasting live from the heart
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of the Texas Hill Country, right here in
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FEMA Region Number Six.
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In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
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And from Northern Silicon Valley, where everybody has
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to resign, I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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Oh, man.
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Oh, man.
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It's days like this when the job is
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just tough.
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Because there's just nothing else in the world
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is happening.
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There's nothing happening.
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It's all signal gate.
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I know you feel the same, because you're
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like, oh, well, there goes the material.
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Well, I found some stuff outside of signal
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gate.
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Oh, me too.
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Because the car tariffs, that's the other big
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news.
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Oh, no, but that's not news.
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We don't want to talk about that.
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And then this morning, the MS-13 guy,
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some guy, some 25-year-old guy was
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arrested.
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Well, I'm glad you mentioned it.
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Here we go.
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Here's Pam Bondage.
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Good morning.
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Thank you for being here.
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You're welcome.
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Did you see Kash Patel in this?
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He had his- They're all there.
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But did you see what he had on
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his, his like FBI flight jacket?
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Yeah, I thought that was camo.
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No, it wasn't camo.
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No, that's his like outdoor arresting people jacket.
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He got the hat on.
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He's got his sneakers on.
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Yeah, Kash, Kash.
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We have been out since about 4.30
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this morning.
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Hold on, let's stop for a second.
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Yeah, really.
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Why is she even there?
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Well, they all report to her.
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Well, she was at, she's there.
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Kash, they're all there.
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It's like- Well, they were all out
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at 4 a.m. this morning, and then
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they had donuts.
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And I'm like, come on, let's go announce
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this thing.
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All right.
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Yeah, everyone dressed right.
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It just seemed to be showboating, if you
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ask me.
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You think?
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Whatever.
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This was a, please pay no attention to
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Signal Gate.
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We got an MS-13 guy.
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Oh yeah, totally.
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The great men and women of law enforcement
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have been working on this operation for days
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and days and probably weeks.
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You don't know?
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You don't know?
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Probably weeks?
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Do they report to you?
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I thought that was- You'd think she'd
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have an exact date when they started.
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Yeah, we started this on this date, and
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we got, I guess not.
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This morning, early this morning, one of the
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top leaders- Top, I love this.
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The top leaders, the tippy top, all the
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way at the top of the pyramid, top
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leader.
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Leaders of MS-13 was apprehended.
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He was the leader for the East Coast,
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one of the top three in the entire
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country.
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Right here in Virginia, living half an hour
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outside of Washington, D.C. He is an
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illegal alien from El Salvador, and he will
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not be living in our country much longer.
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He's in custody this morning.
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One of the top leaders, right here, near
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our nation's capital.
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Right there!
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Top, he was right there, one of the
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top guys.
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Hey, listen, the biggest criminals live in Washington,
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okay, they don't live in Virginia.
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But good job, good job, everybody.
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Just let me do the, I have a
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couple Signal Gate things, just to- Do
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you have the super clip?
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I have a super clip, yeah.
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I don't know which one you're talking about.
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That's the one with all the Democrats going,
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this is the worst thing that's ever happened
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to the country since 9-11.
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No, I don't have that one.
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Oh.
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Well, I didn't, because I was looking for
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super, super cuts, not super clip.
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Super cuts and haircut.
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No, I actually got a, I thought it
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would be fun to do a different version
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of super cut, which, yeah, we're doing something
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different.
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It's upside down day here on the No
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Agenda Show, people.
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The Lib Joes are in the house!
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They've made a big deal out of this,
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because we've had two perfect months.
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The main thing was nothing happened, the attack
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was totally successful.
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In my administration, I'm going to enforce all
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laws concerning the protection of classified information.
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I always say, you have to learn from
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every experience.
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Hillary's private email scandal, which put our classified
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information in the reach of our enemies, disqualifies
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her from the presidency.
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This journalist, Mr. President, wants the world talking
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about more hoaxes and this kind of nonsense,
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rather than the freedom that you're enabling.
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The president's national security advisor sent top secret
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emails on an unsecured server that we know
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our enemies were trying to access.
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He was sending back and forth freewheeling, and
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yet we see nothing there.
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My communications, to be clear, in a signal
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message group, were entirely permissible and lawful, and
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did not include classified information.
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This was a huge mistake, correct?
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No.
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Mishandling classified information is still a violation of
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the Espionage Act.
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It started with Hillary Clinton, it has continued
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without accountability.
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Nobody was texting war plans, and that's all
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I have to say about that.
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If it was anyone other than Hillary Clinton,
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they would be in jail right now.
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When you take something out of a skiff,
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if you're a senator, you know exactly what
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you're doing.
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So I found that super cut, I thought
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that was rather entertaining.
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Yeah.
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But more fun was a trend we have
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noticed recently amongst Democrats, affectionately called the delusional
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Dems, and it's the cussing.
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And so here they have an opportunity.
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The cussing, yeah.
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They have an opportunity to have the upper
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hand on everything.
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I mean, it's just from, because if, I
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mean, politics, truth doesn't matter, it's just whatever
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is on X and whatever is being replayed
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by the media, but they cannot help themselves.
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Here's Adam Schiff.
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So tonight I want to talk about Signalgate
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and what a colossal fuck up this is
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in terms of our national security.
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Why?
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He doesn't need to, he does a six
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minute video, but that's how he starts it
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off.
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That's not good.
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And then- Even Van Jones, I don't
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know if you have the clip of that.
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Yeah, I have that, I have that.
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First let's- He notices it too.
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First let's, you're jumping the gun.
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I always do that.
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You're jumping the gun in the sequence.
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You want to go, yeah, yeah, yeah, that
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means quiet.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Mayor Pete, lovable, adorable little Mayor Pete throws
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a couple bombs.
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Oh, no.
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With his breastfeeding thing on him.
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Yeah, I get it.
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It does not.
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Hey, it's Pete.
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I'd try not to jump in with a
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take on- By the way, we should
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start our show.
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Hey, it's Pete.
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I mean, what does he think he is,
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Madonna?
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Hey, it's Pete.
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Hey, it's Pete.
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I'd try not to jump in with a
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take on everything or comment on everything we
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see in the news of the day, but
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what we learned about today is truly incredible.
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The U.S. Secretary of Defense, the National
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Security Advisor, the Vice President of the United
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States and other very senior, very powerful Trump
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White House officials, it turns out, discussed highly
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classified war plans, not only on an unclassified
7:18
channel, but accidentally and randomly, it seems, including
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a journalist.
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And to see this administration claiming that it
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cares about competence and merit and then be
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responsible for an epic fuck-up like this
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demonstrates that these are not serious people.
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Not done yet.
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This kind of intelligence failure calls the question
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on whether there is any place for merit
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or competence in this administration at all.
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Because if there are not highly serious consequences
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for this level of screw-up, then it
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will make clear that all of the bluster
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about merit that you hear about from this
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White House is just bullshit.
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We deserve so much better than this.
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It is getting clearer by the day-
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That the people in charge of the American
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government cannot keep the American people safe.
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All right, here's the Van Jones remark.
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I think that this party is scrambling, trying
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to seem tough.
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And I'm seeing this party traffic in a
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lot of curse words.
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That's supposed to be the new cool thing
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to do.
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I don't think that that's going to be
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as useful.
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I even heard Pete Buttigieg with a whole
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bunch of curse words.
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I don't know who gave that memo.
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I don't think that's very useful.
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Ah, so it was a memo.
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Clearly there was a memo that went out.
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Van is questioning who gave out the memo.
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Is that another Chuck Schumer thing, do you
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think?
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Yeah, let's all talk tough.
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I think this is organic.
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I think it stems from the powers of
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the president.
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I've said this before, that the president sets
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the moral tone of the country, and it's
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always been the case.
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It's sort of the first thing they teach
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in college poli-sci classes.
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And so they've given, the president gave the
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go-ahead, because he says bullshit all the
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time.
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Yeah, but not the F word.
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I haven't heard him F-bomb.
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No, I don't know.
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I think he has, but I don't think
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it's, it doesn't, the way they, the main
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people that do this, of course, are the
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main screaming meemees that are on the-
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Meemees?
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Screaming meemees?
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Screaming meemees.
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What kind of backhanded slap is that?
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It's your own spouse?
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Well, it's what they're called, the screaming meemees.
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I've never heard of, it's a great band
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name, but I've never heard of the screaming
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meemees.
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Screaming meemees are the people that are on
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the TikTok, and they're screaming and yelling and
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cussing.
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And they're the ones who really set the
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stage for this, it seems to me.
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And now that the fact that the politicians
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are starting to cuss, this is really, and
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they're the ones who bitched and moaned about
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coarseness, oh, coarse, oh, Trump is bad, because
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it's so coarse.
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If you're going to do that, if you're
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going to set up yourself by complaining about
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coarseness, and then you start cussing, this is
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not, again, this is not a good look.
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I do have a couple of insightful clips
10:10
about this, because we're not going to do
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what everybody else is doing.
10:13
You know, I heard, I was listening to
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DH Unplugged every Tuesday, they do it live
10:19
at eight o'clock.
10:20
We do.
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It's also a podcast.
10:23
Yes, it is John C.
10:23
Dvorak and Andrew Horowitz.
10:25
And Horowitz is saying, why does the news
10:27
always do five stories?
10:29
They do five stories all day long, five
10:30
stories.
10:31
And then you backed him up by saying,
10:33
that's what Fox does, every single Fox show,
10:35
five stories, five stories.
10:37
And the reason for that is you play
10:39
the hits, man.
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When you're in a linear time format, people
10:43
aren't watching all day.
10:45
You want them to tune in and get
10:47
the top five stories.
10:49
That's what that's about.
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Play the hits.
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You can't go wrong by playing Madonna.
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Yeah.
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That's probably the only, that's what I remember
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when I was at Tech TV, and we
11:03
had an old pro that was running, one
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of the guys that was one of the
11:06
main producers of the whole operation, he said,
11:09
and you get a story that's hot, you
11:13
just milk it.
11:14
Yeah.
11:15
It's all you do all day is just
11:17
go on this story.
11:18
That's all you play.
11:19
Yack, yack, yack about the one thing.
11:22
I mean, we shy away from that on
11:24
this show because it's, I think people are
11:27
sick of it.
11:27
Yeah, who needs that?
11:29
In this, I mean, people always want to
11:31
hear our opinions.
11:32
Oh yeah, but we have opinions.
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Okay, I'm just going to- Well, we
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have different, we also have perspective.
11:36
We have a different look at these things.
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We are awesome.
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That's what we're trying to do.
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We're great.
11:40
We're trying to, here's a backgrounder.
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It was the screenshot the world was waiting
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for after members of the now infamous Hootie
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PC small group lined up on Tuesday to
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insist no classified information was shared on the
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signal chat.
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The Atlantic magazine dropped the so-called war
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plan Pete Hegseth sent to senior intelligence officials
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and a journalist from the Atlantic that readers
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might judge for themselves.
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12.15 estimated time F-18s launch first
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strike package.
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Package.
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13.45 trigger-based F-18 first strike
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window starts.
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Target terrorist is at his known location.
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So should be on time.
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Also strike drones launch MQ-9s.
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After the initial strike, the target is identified
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on signal as the Hootie's quote, top missile
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guy.
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Members of the signal thread are now saying
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the Atlantic magazine's editor, Jeffrey Goldberg oversold the
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extent of the breach.
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Among them, the Pentagon chief himself.
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Nobody's texting war plans.
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There's no units, no locations, no routes, no
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flight paths, no sources, no methods, no classified
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information.
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This after Goldberg's original article said the plan
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included precise information about targets.
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But in the hands of foreign intelligence, the
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messages sent two hours before zero hour would
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have been an ample tip off to Hootie
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command of an impending attack.
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You're right about the president setting the tone
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because not a single person can just say,
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yeah, that was dumb.
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They don't seem capable of that.
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They're like, yeah, well, we were in a
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hurry.
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We're doing this, you know, it's an approved
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thing.
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We just threw together a group and that
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was bad.
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This is the era of no apologies.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Sorry about that, Vax.
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No one is going to apologize for everything.
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And President Trump, he's so smart.
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The Vax is still on the market.
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Of course, of course.
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I mean, get your eighth booster.
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Get your eighth booster.
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I did, there was an interesting, cause you
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know, this journalist is interesting for a number
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of reasons.
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And then we can talk about what we
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think happens briefly.
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Matt Taibbi was on Newsmax, Newsmax top, he's
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a top, top guy on Newsmax as a
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guest.
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And here's what he had to say about
14:03
the Atlantic journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg.
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What exactly is Jeffrey Goldberg in your mind?
14:08
What do you think of this guy?
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Look, a lot of journalists, when Jeffrey Goldberg's
14:12
name comes up, we all kind of look
14:15
at each other with a bemused glance.
14:18
This is somebody who has a reputation for
14:20
getting things massively wrong and somehow being promoted
14:24
anyway.
14:26
He was infamous for getting the WMD story
14:30
wrong multiple times.
14:31
In fact, he won multiple awards for getting
14:33
that story wrong.
14:34
And somehow still ended up the editor of
14:36
Atlantic Magazine.
14:37
So he's a figure of some mystery in
14:39
the business.
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Yeah, that was the great terror article in
14:44
the New Yorker in 2002.
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Yeah, he's the one who promoted the suckers
14:51
and losers story.
14:52
Yep.
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John Kelly commentary.
14:55
He also did two or three other of
14:57
these, he's a spook.
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There's gotta be something like that.
15:00
I mean, I don't have, I am not
15:02
looking at his Wiki page so I can
15:03
do a spot to spook analysis, but there's
15:06
something fishy about, first of all, why is
15:08
he the guy that ended up on this
15:10
thing?
15:11
The second thing was is that the Walls,
15:14
the National Security Advisor says when he went
15:17
to CIA, I guess the first thing they
15:19
gave him was a secure phone.
15:21
It had a signal on it.
15:23
And then he talked to some CIA guys,
15:25
but he talked about this in the testimony.
15:28
And they had a communication, somebody there says,
15:30
oh, no, don't worry about it, everyone's got
15:32
this, just use it, it's fine.
15:35
And then all of a sudden, just Jeffrey
15:38
Goldberg guy gets on the call, how did
15:40
that happen?
15:40
And of course, nobody can figure out how
15:43
that happened.
15:45
And maybe they will, maybe they won't.
15:47
This whole thing is a setup.
15:49
Goldberg dropped out of college and worked for
15:51
a time at the Washington Post, because that's
15:53
where all college dropouts go.
15:56
Did you drop out of college?
15:58
You're hired, son, come on in.
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What, he got hired by Woodward?
16:03
He then moved to Israel and served in
16:05
the Israeli Defense Forces during the first Intifada.
16:10
He was a prison guard.
16:13
There he, let me see.
16:17
You're on his Wiki page?
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Yeah, I am, I am.
16:20
He said, oh, I can't be trusted, dual
16:22
Israeli citizen.
16:24
It's one of those guys, can't trust him.
16:28
Well, the- Is there any other spot
16:30
that spooked the indicators?
16:31
I don't really see anything.
16:34
Well, that's actually good.
16:35
I mean, it may actually be a real
16:37
- A real one.
16:38
A real one.
16:39
A real one, yes, yes.
16:40
As opposed to one that's just kind of
16:42
sloppy.
16:43
Well- Because the fact that he's the
16:45
guy of all the people that ended up
16:47
on this call, why him?
16:50
Well, you know, sometimes, just Occam's razor, sometimes
16:54
things just happen.
16:57
Yeah, but this sort of thing is anything
17:00
but Occam's razor.
17:01
It's like the opposite.
17:03
Well- It's so out there.
17:05
No, not really.
17:06
I mean, if you're adding, because the whole
17:08
Signal texts thread was about adding people to
17:12
the mix.
17:12
Yeah, but you have to have, first you
17:14
have to have the number in your book.
17:16
Oh, yeah, well, I mean, you have lots
17:18
of people's numbers in your book you wouldn't
17:20
add to a text chat with me.
17:23
I'm sorry, you have an actual book.
17:25
What am I thinking?
17:27
You don't have it in your phone.
17:32
Actually, I do have the Google, I do
17:34
have a large address book on Google, and
17:37
they will move it to my phone every
17:40
time I get a new Android.
17:42
You've gotten a new one?
17:44
Well, it's not new, but every time you
17:46
get a different phone, I have different phones
17:49
over time that end up in the same
17:51
drawer, but when you boot it, they demand
17:54
that you log in somehow.
17:57
You got to log your old account in,
17:59
and once you do that, then they throw
18:00
a bunch of crap on your phone, but
18:03
they're throwing stuff on, I have phone numbers
18:05
for people that I don't even know, and
18:08
so it's possible, but again, somehow that number
18:12
got on that phone, Walz's phone, somehow.
18:15
No, I'm pretty sure they know each other.
18:19
They know each other.
18:21
Walz claims that he doesn't know him.
18:24
Ah, I don't buy that.
18:25
I'm not buying that.
18:27
I like what Sir Grantilius of the Great
18:32
Plains said.
18:34
Walz was working for the Department of Defense
18:36
as an advisor to Cheney in the Bush
18:38
days.
18:39
Goldberg was publishing work actively supporting the invasion
18:42
of Iraq.
18:43
That's your WMD.
18:45
The Cheney gang despises Trump.
18:47
Could Goldberg have been invited on purpose?
18:51
That's what he says.
18:52
That's reasonable.
18:53
That is, that's reasonable.
18:54
You know, but- There's a lot of
18:55
reasonable things that you can surmise.
18:57
But who is this, but who is this,
18:59
I think this is, if it's targeted, it's
19:02
targeted against Hegseth.
19:04
Who has the capability, first of all, Signal
19:09
- Well, they really hate Hegseth.
19:11
Yes, and Hegseth has responded very poorly.
19:14
He's not good at this.
19:16
No, you'd think he'd be better because he's
19:18
media savvy.
19:19
He's so defensive and blah, blah.
19:22
Nope, nope, this is not, this is bull
19:23
crap.
19:24
That guy's no good.
19:26
No, Hegseth plays too much of a tough
19:28
character.
19:30
Yeah.
19:30
He's a tough guy.
19:32
They push him into this position where he's
19:34
gotta be kind of assertive.
19:38
Yeah.
19:38
And he doesn't have experience in a large
19:40
bureaucracy, so he's a little sensitive about that.
19:42
Yeah.
19:43
And so he's in a position where he
19:46
can get shook.
19:49
And so far, you know, I think Trump
19:51
likes him.
19:52
I think he probably could do the job
19:53
but they're gonna try to shake him out
19:55
of there.
19:55
I think he has to go.
19:57
Out of all this, they're not gonna stop.
20:00
And if this was a targeted thing, then
20:03
it was to get to make Hegseth look
20:05
bad.
20:05
Because it was Hegseth who's sitting there going
20:07
like, we got the reaper drones, we're gonna
20:10
kill this guy.
20:12
And the thing that's kind of sick about
20:14
it all is the jubilee.
20:18
And like, yay, American flag emoji, punching fist
20:22
emoji, fire emoji.
20:23
We killed him.
20:25
Yeah, that was a mistake.
20:26
Of course, but that's how these people are.
20:29
That's probably how most people are.
20:33
But it's always- Yeah, we're number one
20:34
foam finger.
20:34
Yeah, it's always a little jar.
20:36
I mean, to me, that was the jarring
20:38
thing.
20:38
I mean, not that this was.
20:40
And clearly, the timing of this and how
20:46
much time there was before the reaper drones
20:49
and whatever else they were planning, clearly, that
20:52
would have been enough to alert people.
20:54
Here's my question, though.
20:56
This is the thing.
20:57
This is the part I don't understand.
20:58
And this is where it smells of a
20:59
setup.
21:01
If this is you or I, and we
21:04
get added to some awesome text group, and
21:06
on this text group, it's podcasters.
21:09
It's Megyn Kelly.
21:11
It's Dan Bongino.
21:12
Oh, no, he's no longer a podcaster.
21:14
It's Tucker Carlson.
21:15
And they have like this top, top, top
21:17
podcasters group.
21:19
I would not be removing myself.
21:24
Who does- This was brought up on
21:25
Gutfeld by one of the contestants.
21:29
Who does that?
21:30
I forgot who was, but one of them
21:33
said, why would you out yourself if you're
21:36
going to end up on these groups?
21:37
Because you could, as a journalist in particular,
21:40
because you're like the fly on, now you're
21:42
a fly on the wall.
21:43
Yes.
21:43
Why wouldn't you want to continue to be
21:45
the fly on the wall as long as
21:46
you can, and you just build up and
21:48
build up more?
21:50
Do you remember back?
21:52
Well, you still have one.
21:53
Back in the landline days, if you called
21:56
someone on a landline, you know, the thing
21:58
that's on the wall, and the other person
22:03
didn't, no, how did it work?
22:05
It was like, there was a thing where
22:07
you could keep listening.
22:08
I mean, if the other person doesn't hang
22:10
up, and there was something where this happens
22:12
regularly.
22:13
There was some situations where, well, first of
22:16
all, when I was in France for the
22:18
first time in 73.
22:20
Getting your hair cut by Pierre.
22:22
Yes.
22:24
That's when you had to always go to
22:25
the postal office to make calls.
22:28
It was very strange to do an overseas
22:30
call.
22:30
You had to go to the post office,
22:32
and it was a postal telephone post office.
22:36
Yes, PTT.
22:38
But the phones, if people did have a
22:40
phone in their house, when you hung up,
22:45
it didn't hang up anything.
22:47
So you could stay on the line, and
22:49
when the other person hung up, you hear
22:51
the click, but the phone was still live
22:53
for a good five minutes.
22:54
This is what I'm talking about.
22:55
I remember this.
22:57
There was something like that that went on
22:59
in this country too, but it wasn't quite
23:00
the same mechanism.
23:02
It was something else.
23:02
No, I think I remember it from the
23:03
Netherlands.
23:04
I remember it too, because I remember people
23:06
hanging up, and then now you can still
23:08
hear it.
23:08
Yeah, yeah, and what you did was, you
23:11
didn't hang up and say, oh, I hope
23:12
I don't hear anything I shouldn't be hearing.
23:14
No!
23:15
You're listening.
23:16
Well, that's like being on the party line.
23:18
Yeah, yes.
23:19
Which when I was a real little kid,
23:22
and I was on the party line all
23:24
the time, and I've talked about this on
23:25
the show before, and I got caught a
23:27
couple of times by the girl, she'd be
23:30
talking to her boyfriend, I'm listening in, and
23:33
these two cooing over each other, and she
23:35
caught me somehow.
23:36
I don't know if she heard something.
23:37
Here's a modern day example.
23:39
Let's move it out of Boomerland.
23:41
Butt dial.
23:42
When someone butt dials you, and you hear
23:44
them.
23:45
Same thing.
23:46
You don't hang up and go, oh, butt
23:48
dial, no!
23:49
Let me hear what they say.
23:52
You listen, unless you can, you listen for
23:55
at least a little while, but if it's,
23:57
you know, obviously you're not gonna hear anything,
23:59
because you can tell by the nature of
24:01
the butt dial, because you can't hear, you
24:04
just hear rustling, and then you hang up.
24:07
But otherwise, yeah, you listen a little bit,
24:09
if you can hear anything.
24:10
But if you don't hear anything, you don't
24:12
listen.
24:13
So it doesn't make sense that this guy
24:15
outed himself like this.
24:16
Would remove himself.
24:18
And he's got, and his story was a
24:20
nothing burger.
24:21
Is that how you use that term?
24:22
You use nothing burger.
24:23
You heard it.
24:24
And it basically, there wasn't really anything, he
24:27
just was there to humiliate Hanks, Seth.
24:30
So, and Walls, to a lesser extent.
24:32
Well, Walls is under attack.
24:38
So people are now combing through Walts, and
24:41
they find out that his official ex account,
24:45
he's following a gay porn star, known as
24:52
Big Dick Bottom.
24:54
A black guy.
24:56
A black guy.
24:57
Really?
24:58
Yeah.
24:59
I didn't catch that.
25:00
And then he unfollowed him quick.
25:02
Yeah, I would imagine.
25:03
Sorry, not porn star, an adult con artist.
25:05
Content creator.
25:06
I'm sorry.
25:07
I'm using the wrong term.
25:08
I will say this, so that could be,
25:09
that could be planted.
25:11
Oh yeah, easy.
25:12
Hey, let me see your phone for a
25:13
sec.
25:14
You know, who do I know that does
25:16
that?
25:16
Who did things?
25:17
Yes, John C.
25:18
Dvorak.
25:18
Give me your phone for a second.
25:20
And then you boop, boop, boop, boop, boop,
25:21
switch it to Korean.
25:23
And it would be impossible to find your
25:25
way back to turn off the Korean language.
25:28
Yeah, you'd have to do a lot of
25:30
research to figure out how to do it.
25:32
That was one of your most.
25:33
I know, that's a great gag.
25:33
Come on, people.
25:34
It's a horrible gag.
25:35
It's just, it's horrible.
25:39
So, yeah, my feeling is this is the
25:42
first major chink in the Hegseth armor.
25:47
And that was the intent.
25:48
Also, it was from the account from Goldberg,
25:52
it was Waltz who added him to.
25:56
Three says.
25:57
Now that can, I don't, Signal doesn't send
25:59
out invitations as far as I know.
26:02
I was surprised, just as an aside, that
26:05
Signal is an approved encrypted messaging app for
26:08
the U.S. government.
26:10
Do you know that the chairman of the
26:13
Signal board is a foundation that runs.
26:16
The woman.
26:16
The woman, she is the head of NPR.
26:20
No, she's gone, but didn't the woman from
26:23
Blue Cry also come from Signal?
26:24
No, the woman from NPR still runs it,
26:26
because here, here's the clip.
26:28
They talk about it at, I think I
26:30
have one of the signals.
26:31
I have a couple of her clips, but.
26:33
No, I have the disclaimer.
26:35
Oh, okay.
26:39
Wow.
26:40
Yeah, wow is right.
26:42
You sure you have it?
26:44
I know, I know I have it, I
26:45
just, I just don't know what it's called.
26:49
Breach Story Weird NPR?
26:51
Should we try that one?
26:54
What is it?
26:55
Breach Story Weird NPR.
26:58
Oh yeah, that could be it.
26:59
The fallout continues from the revelation senior Trump
27:02
administration officials somehow added a journalist to a
27:05
Signal group chat in which they discussed secret
27:07
plans for military strikes in Yemen.
27:10
At a White House hearing today, Democrats disputed
27:12
the administration's claims.
27:13
The information wasn't classified and called for people
27:16
to be held accountable.
27:17
Here's NPR's Ryan Lucas.
27:18
Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee pushed Director
27:21
of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director
27:24
John Ratcliffe for answers, particularly after the full
27:27
group chat chain was made public by the
27:29
Atlantic.
27:30
It showed Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth texting details
27:33
on timing, weapons and attack sequencing of the
27:37
US airstrikes in Yemen.
27:38
Here's Colorado Democrat Jason Crowe.
27:40
Nobody is willing to come to us and
27:42
say this was wrong.
27:43
This was a breach of security and we
27:45
won't do it again.
27:46
Crowe, who is a former US Army Ranger,
27:49
said the refusal to accept responsibility is outrageous
27:52
and a leadership failure.
27:53
And he called on Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
27:55
to resign.
27:56
Ryan Lucas, NPR News, Washington.
27:58
NPR CEO Catherine Barr chairs the board of
28:01
the Signal Foundation, the nonprofit that supports the
28:03
app.
28:05
That's not the lady who was in Congress,
28:09
though.
28:10
Yeah.
28:10
No, her name is, I don't think that's
28:13
her name.
28:13
No, there were two ladies in Congress.
28:15
Hold on a second.
28:16
It's NPR News, Washington.
28:17
NPR CEO Catherine Barr chairs the board of
28:19
the Signal Foundation, the nonprofit that supports the
28:22
app.
28:22
The other lady, Catherine...
28:26
Catherine, that's her, March, or March and March.
28:28
There are two ladies from NPR called Catherine
28:31
Marr.
28:32
Marr.
28:33
Did he say Marr?
28:34
Let me listen again.
28:36
Did he say Marr?
28:36
Washington.
28:37
NPR CEO Catherine Barr chairs the board of
28:39
the Signal Foundation.
28:40
Oh, Marr.
28:41
Okay, oh, interesting.
28:43
Well, what is she doing that for?
28:44
Well, that makes it all very suspicious.
28:47
I thought it was very suspicious first time
28:49
I heard that.
28:49
And that's one of the few times that
28:51
they actually ran the disclaimer.
28:53
You're gonna grill me in Congress?
28:54
Watch this.
28:57
Can I play a couple of those clips?
28:59
I thought those were kind of interesting.
29:01
I would like you to play them.
29:02
I didn't get any of those clips.
29:03
I love those clips.
29:04
The thing is, they don't have...
29:06
It was funny to listen to, I will
29:08
say this.
29:09
You listen, I was almost gonna take this,
29:12
but then I was thinking, well, I've won
29:13
too many Jesse Waters analysis.
29:16
It's not good for the show.
29:16
Oh, do you have more today?
29:18
This is bad.
29:18
I have none.
29:19
Oh, good.
29:21
But Jesse Waters has some of the best
29:23
of the clips.
29:24
And then when you played him up close,
29:25
up against the long version, longer exposition on
29:29
PBS NewsHour, there was no comparison.
29:32
The Water stuff was far superior.
29:35
Well, I focused really on one thing and
29:37
that's the money because that's what it was
29:40
about.
29:40
It's about do we continue to fund the
29:43
National Public Radio?
29:44
Where does the money go?
29:45
That's- And the kicker is, oh, well,
29:47
the government doesn't really have, only gives maybe
29:50
1% of the total.
29:51
No, no.
29:52
Doesn't mean a lot and oh, who cares?
29:54
We need this money.
29:56
Okay, I guess I don't need to play
29:57
the clips.
29:57
You did it again.
30:01
You went straight to the kicker.
30:05
But that's just what you set me up
30:07
for it.
30:07
You've got to do a better job of
30:08
blocking me.
30:09
I'm going to play Catherine Amar, be quiet.
30:12
I understand the subcommittee has questions about funding
30:14
for NPR and public radio.
30:16
The vast majority of federal dollars, more than
30:18
a hundred million of the 121 million annual
30:21
appropriation for public radio goes directly to 386
30:26
local non-commercial stations across the nation.
30:29
This highly efficient investment enables your local stations
30:32
to raise an average of $7 for every
30:34
federal dollar.
30:36
As a grantee of the Corporation for Public
30:39
Broadcasting, NPR received federal funding of 11.2
30:42
million last year.
30:43
These funds allow us to maintain the National
30:46
Public Radio satellite system, helping safeguard our national
30:49
security, civil defense and disaster response.
30:52
And enabling public radio to reach every corner
30:55
of America.
30:56
Additionally, these funds help protect journalists covering our
30:59
troops overseas and reverse the decline of local
31:02
journalism.
31:03
So people don't really understand how NPR works.
31:07
They're all independent stations.
31:09
They have to do their own fundraising.
31:11
The problem is they basically can't create much
31:16
of their own local content.
31:18
I mean, even KUT in Austin, remember when
31:22
we had snow apocalypse, they were playing in
31:24
fresh air with Terry Gross.
31:25
They have to buy the programming.
31:29
And that's where a lot of the money
31:31
goes because it's commercial companies making the majority
31:35
of this content.
31:36
It's not like, you know, like government employees.
31:40
All of this comes through the PRX, the
31:42
public radio exchanges, you know, the public, what
31:45
is it?
31:46
The public media, forget the name of the
31:48
group.
31:49
So really the only thing that makes it
31:51
a network is explained here.
31:53
I'd like to spend the rest of my
31:54
time talking about funding.
31:56
This is Jack, Representative Jack from Georgia.
31:59
I know that some of my colleagues talked
32:00
about it a little bit today, but could
32:02
you walk us through the amount of money
32:04
that NPR receives from CPB annually?
32:07
Yes, sure, sir.
32:08
We receive $11.2 million this past year,
32:12
the majority of which goes to the public
32:14
radio satellite system, which we operate on behalf
32:16
of the entire public radio network.
32:20
We also received a smaller amount of funds.
32:22
Let's just stop there.
32:23
The PRSS, the public radio satellite system is
32:27
an anachronism.
32:29
This thing should immediately be shot out of
32:32
the sky.
32:34
I think there's still one show that broadcasts
32:37
live, the morning edition, maybe all things considered,
32:41
is a live stream from the satellite, which,
32:44
of course, we could do much cheaper with
32:47
a Starlink dish.
32:49
That would work in a case of an
32:51
emergency, but you could still do it.
32:54
I mean, we've had T1 lines for a
32:57
long time.
32:58
And what all these, it's a very expensive,
33:00
very antiquated system where they, in essence, download
33:04
WAV files of programming.
33:08
That's the incredible importance of that $11 million.
33:12
And of course, Catherine Marr's salary and whatever
33:16
else they do with that.
33:19
But that thing is absolutely not necessary, but
33:23
I don't think any of these people in
33:24
Congress actually understand what NPR is or how
33:27
it works.
33:28
We also received a smaller amount of funding
33:30
in the course of the past year that
33:32
went to help us hire those additional editors
33:34
and analysts in order to be able to
33:36
beef up that editorial review.
33:38
We received funding to support the coverage of
33:41
the recent election in order to make sure
33:43
that we had our journalists all across the
33:45
country and were able to speak to Americans
33:47
of all different political backgrounds.
33:49
And what percentage of your budget share comes
33:52
from the federal government?
33:54
Depending on how you count it, sir, it's
33:57
less than 5%.
34:00
And to help me understand, too, the CPB,
34:03
as I understand it, Congress has appropriated $500
34:06
million to the CPB.
34:07
It flows out, and I think smaller radio
34:09
stations go and apply for grants for it.
34:12
$500 million for CPB, which includes PBS?
34:18
What else does that include?
34:20
It includes a lot of those little stations
34:22
who have to give the money back.
34:24
I mean, the whole thing is something of
34:25
a Ponzi scheme.
34:27
Do you receive payment from smaller radio stations
34:30
through licensing agreements and things of that nature?
34:33
We do, and the fees for that are
34:35
designed designed around the amount of- What
34:39
do you mean designed?
34:42
The fees are designed.
34:44
And of course, Jack is only out to
34:48
get her, to stick it to her like
34:49
everybody else.
34:50
No follow-up questions on that.
34:52
Are designed around the amount of funding that
34:57
they get from private member donations.
34:59
So it's not, the fees are not designed
35:01
around federal funding, they're just- How is
35:04
a fee designed?
35:06
I mean, a fee is a fee.
35:09
So is it based upon how many people
35:12
listen?
35:12
Is it based on how much money you
35:14
raise?
35:14
This makes no sense.
35:15
They get money to keep the stations on
35:18
the air.
35:19
That's expensive.
35:20
And then the fees are designed somehow?
35:25
Designed?
35:26
What she's trying to say is that the
35:27
larger markets have to pay more money.
35:30
Yeah.
35:30
That's pretty common.
35:32
The amount of funding that they- It's
35:33
like newspaper syndicates.
35:35
If you're a small town paper with 100
35:37
,000 CERC, you're not paying the same amount
35:39
for the Dilbert cartoon as somebody with 250
35:42
,000 CERC.
35:44
Designed around the amount of funding that they
35:46
get from private member donations.
35:48
So it's not, the fees are not designed
35:50
around federal funding.
35:51
They're designed around what sort of direct private
35:53
support and donations they receive from members and
35:56
listeners.
35:58
Well, they're basing it on, she's saying that
36:00
they base it on how much they get.
36:02
So how much did you raise?
36:03
$2 million.
36:04
Oh, your fee is- I don't think
36:06
that's right.
36:07
I don't know what she's talking about.
36:09
She's just rambling.
36:11
I mean, I think she's maybe just be
36:12
snowing the guy.
36:14
Well, here's the real question.
36:16
And this came from Jack as well.
36:18
Could NPR survive without the 5% that
36:20
we give NPR annually?
36:22
My belief is that the funding is essential
36:24
to the public radio system.
36:26
And that is the 246 member stations, but
36:29
the 1300 stations across the nation, so that
36:32
we're able, as a network, to serve all
36:34
Americans with 100% coverage.
36:36
This is bull crap.
36:38
This is a snow job, what she's saying
36:40
right here.
36:41
There is no substance to what she's saying.
36:43
She's not answering the question.
36:44
Federal funding for our network goes away.
36:46
It means that people in rural parts of
36:49
America, places where they can't afford to make
36:51
private donations to support their local journalism, those
36:54
will be harmed.
36:55
But, sir, if I may, the bigger harm
36:57
as well, or the additional harm, is that
36:59
Americans in places that are affluent or do
37:02
have many media choices will not be able
37:07
to hear from their fellow Americans that are
37:11
often under her.
37:12
She says something very interesting.
37:14
At first, I misheard her.
37:15
But she's saying, what I think she's saying
37:18
here is rich people who've got a lot
37:21
of choice won't be able to hear the
37:22
poor suckers out in the sticks.
37:24
Tell me I'm wrong.
37:25
Americans in places that You better start it
37:27
over there.
37:28
Bigger harm as well, or the additional harm,
37:31
is that Americans in places that are affluent
37:33
or do have many media choices will not
37:35
be able to hear from their fellow Americans
37:37
that are often under-heard.
37:40
Isn't that what she's saying?
37:41
You won't hear from the poor people without
37:44
us.
37:46
That's exactly what she's saying.
37:47
I don't know how, what else could that
37:49
mean?
37:50
So NPR So the rich people are gonna
37:53
suffer.
37:54
Yes.
37:55
They're gonna suffer horribly.
37:56
That's exactly what she's saying.
37:58
If they don't give the little people some
38:01
money so the little people can speak up
38:02
because the little people don't have a voice
38:04
without the government money.
38:05
That's exactly.
38:06
So you bastards in the government, you better
38:08
give the little people some money because you're
38:09
just, you're shutting them down.
38:12
Have you ever heard of X or Facebook?
38:14
Little people have a voice these days, lady.
38:16
Americans in places that are affluent or do
38:18
have many media choices will not be able
38:20
to hear from their fellow Americans that are
38:23
often under-heard.
38:24
And you're an NPR guy.
38:26
Please make sure that next time you hear
38:28
some poor people who aren't heard, make sure
38:31
that if they're ever on NPR, you clip
38:33
it.
38:34
Because usually I only hear douchebags.
38:37
And it's all douchebags.
38:38
It's all douchebags.
38:40
Bottom line, if the 5% went away,
38:43
would NPR still exist?
38:44
Well, it would be incredibly damaging to the
38:46
federal, to the, excuse me, to the national
38:48
public radio system.
38:50
Well, this is why I say.
38:52
Wait, so in other words, 5%-
38:56
Goes to the poor suckers.
38:58
The 5% is going to be incredibly
39:00
damaging because despite what we do, we can't
39:04
make up 5% of that funding.
39:08
We can't find some other way of doing
39:10
it.
39:10
We can't open up a gates of hell
39:13
of advertise.
39:14
We can't do anything.
39:15
That 5% is all there is to
39:18
it.
39:18
That was the question.
39:20
That was the question.
39:20
Something is wrong with that answer.
39:23
So instead, we just hounded her.
39:26
It is fun to listen to this.
39:28
This was the representative, Brandon Gill, who did
39:34
exactly what they're doing to national security advisor,
39:38
Waltz.
39:39
Let's comb through your tweets and embarrass you.
39:42
It's interesting because a lot of your thinking
39:44
as expressed by your public- Hold on,
39:46
can you stop for a second?
39:48
It's John Kennedy, the guy from Louisiana, I
39:51
think is the guy who perfected this technique
39:53
in Congress.
39:54
Oh, and he has his own YouTube channels.
39:57
And you don't even know how old it
39:58
is.
39:59
I mean, it's evergreen, the stuff he does.
40:01
Yeah, he has nothing but- Showbiz appeal.
40:04
Did you write this tweet?
40:06
Let me just get it straight.
40:08
Is that something you actually wrote?
40:11
And she said, well, I think so.
40:12
Well, you would know.
40:13
I'm reading right from it.
40:15
You might, and it goes on and on.
40:16
This guy did a pretty good job.
40:18
It's interesting because a lot of your thinking
40:19
as expressed by your public statements is deeply
40:23
infused with economic and cultural Marxism.
40:26
Do you believe that America is addicted to
40:28
white supremacy?
40:30
I believe that I tweeted that.
40:32
And as I've said earlier, I believe much
40:34
of my thinking has evolved over the last
40:36
half decade.
40:37
I've evolved as a human being because-
40:40
Wait, she said over the last half decade.
40:42
I know, isn't that a great- You
40:43
mean five years.
40:45
It was only four, actually, to be honest,
40:47
if you look at the number, but it
40:49
was four years ago.
40:50
She wrote that.
40:51
Half a decade.
40:52
But she's good.
40:53
Oh, you know, everything's evolved over the last
40:55
half, that last half a decade.
40:59
That's amazing.
41:00
You mean during the Biden administration?
41:02
Earlier, I believe much of my thinking has
41:04
evolved over the last half decade.
41:07
It has evolved.
41:08
Why did you tweet that?
41:09
I don't recall the exact context, sir, so
41:12
I wouldn't be able to say.
41:13
Okay.
41:14
Do you believe that America believes in black
41:16
plunder and white democracy?
41:18
I don't believe that, sir.
41:21
You tweeted that in reference to a book
41:23
you were reading at the time, apparently, The
41:25
Case for Reparations.
41:27
I don't think I've ever read that book,
41:29
sir.
41:29
This is my best, this is the best
41:30
one.
41:31
You were reading a book, or you tweeted
41:32
about this book.
41:33
I don't think I've read that book, sir.
41:35
I don't think I read that book in
41:37
the last half decade.
41:39
Tweeted about it.
41:40
You said you took a day off to
41:42
fully read The Case for Reparations.
41:45
Put that on Twitter in January of 2020.
41:48
So she's a liar.
41:49
Of course she didn't read the book.
41:51
She didn't read White Fragility either.
41:54
It's just virtue signaling.
41:56
I have a couple clips coming up later
41:58
in the show that also use this trick.
42:01
When you say, I'm thinking about this half
42:03
decade thing, the first thing, if you're calculating
42:06
that in your mind, you think 10, that's
42:08
50 years.
42:10
Because when you think of it, when you
42:12
say half, and half is always at 0
42:13
.5, so it's 0.5 decade, 10, you
42:16
multiply, in your brain, you multiply it, and
42:19
so it says, in the last half decade,
42:22
it really, I think, subconsciously, it sounds like
42:25
50 years.
42:27
I think it's a very tricky NLP, I
42:31
think it's an NLP trick, and it gives
42:35
you the sense that it's a long time.
42:37
Well, she also slipped in their federal public
42:39
radio, which I thought was interesting.
42:42
Yeah, she's good.
42:43
Yeah, yeah, spook.
42:44
She may be a spook, but what's her
42:46
name again?
42:47
Catherine Maher, Maher, Maher.
42:50
You're correct.
42:50
Said you took a day off to fully
42:52
read the case for reparations.
42:54
You put that on Twitter in January of
42:56
2020.
42:57
I apologize, I don't recall that I did.
42:59
Okay.
43:00
I have no doubt that your tweet there
43:03
is correct, but I don't recall that.
43:04
Okay.
43:05
Do you believe that white people inherently feel
43:07
superior to other races?
43:09
This is great.
43:11
This is your virtue signaling coming back and
43:15
slapping you in the face like a wet
43:17
salmon.
43:17
People inherently feel superior to other races?
43:20
I do not.
43:21
You don't?
43:22
You tweeted something to that effect.
43:24
You said, I grew up feeling superior, ha,
43:26
how white of me.
43:27
Why did you tweet that?
43:29
I think I was probably reflecting on what
43:31
it was to be, to grow up in
43:34
an environment where I had lots of advantages.
43:36
So that's a racist statement right there because
43:39
you were white.
43:40
That means that you had lots of advantages.
43:42
Have you seen, what about those poor schlubs
43:44
who need 5% to listen to NPR,
43:46
to create content for NPR so the rich
43:49
people can hear it?
43:52
Okay.
43:53
Let me stop you for a second.
43:57
After high school, Maher graduated from the Arabic
44:00
Language Institute.
44:01
Oh yeah, we went there.
44:03
Intensive program at the American University of Cairo.
44:06
In 2003, she recalled a formative experience and
44:09
she developed her interest in the Middle East.
44:12
What's she doing here?
44:13
Maher also studied at the Institut Francais.
44:17
And she was in Damascus.
44:18
She was in Syria.
44:19
She spent time in Lebanon and Tunisia.
44:22
I'm reminded of a meeting I had with
44:24
the economic hitman for lunch.
44:26
One time he says, my entire family says,
44:29
don't take Arab, because they're all CIA spooks.
44:32
He said, don't take Arabic because you'll be
44:33
stuck in the Middle East.
44:34
No, you want Mandarin.
44:35
From 2007 to 2010, she was at UNICEF.
44:38
Then she was at the National Democratic Institute
44:41
as an ICT program officer.
44:43
Worked at the World Bank.
44:46
She worked at Twitter.
44:49
DC-based Access Now Operation Advocacy.
44:53
This woman is Wikipedia Foundation.
44:56
She was the communications officer there.
45:00
Mary, just one thing after.
45:02
This is an unbelievable bio.
45:04
U.S. State Department Foreign Affairs Policy Board.
45:10
Worked with Clinton.
45:12
Secreted with Hillary.
45:15
She's just unbelievable.
45:16
Well, this leads me to believe that Signal
45:19
is not a safe app.
45:21
Leads me to believe the exact same thing.
45:24
Or it's just a backdoor operation.
45:26
I was probably reflecting on what it was.
45:29
You know, you could have probably, you know,
45:30
talking about that, it's possible that they just
45:33
slipped Jeffrey in and nobody really put him
45:36
on the call at all.
45:38
Very suspicious.
45:40
And this woman is extremely suspicious.
45:43
To grow up in an environment where I
45:45
had lots of advantages.
45:47
It sounds like you're saying that white people
45:49
feel superior.
45:50
I don't believe that anybody feels that way,
45:52
sir.
45:53
I was just reflecting on my own experiences.
45:54
Do you think that white people should pay
45:56
reparations?
45:57
I have never said that, sir.
45:59
Yes, you did.
46:00
Said it in January of 2020.
46:02
You tweeted.
46:03
Yes, you did.
46:03
Yes, the North.
46:04
Yes, all of us.
46:04
Yes, America.
46:06
Yes, our original collective sin and unpaid debt.
46:09
Yes, reparations.
46:10
Yes, on this day.
46:11
I don't believe that was a reference to
46:12
fiscal reparations, sir.
46:14
What kind of reparations was it a reference
46:16
to?
46:16
I think it was just a reference to
46:17
the idea that we all owe much to
46:20
the people who came before us.
46:21
That's a bizarre way to frame what you
46:24
tweeted.
46:25
And he went on and on and on
46:26
and on.
46:27
But that was entertaining.
46:29
Yeah, of course.
46:31
But in- But she was slick, I
46:33
watched her.
46:34
She was calm, cool, and collected.
46:36
Yeah, I mean, in regards to Signal, that's
46:41
a little troubling.
46:44
I wonder why she, well, maybe on the
46:46
other hand, maybe that's exactly why it is
46:49
sanctioned for use within the government.
46:51
Which I learned, I didn't know that.
46:53
I didn't think that they could use their
46:55
private phones for anything that had a government
46:58
business.
46:59
How about the, don't we have the National
47:01
Archive Act and all kinds of stuff that
47:03
you have to, no matter what has been
47:06
discussed, has to be archived somewhere?
47:09
Yeah, supposedly.
47:11
Yeah, so someone needs to fess up or
47:15
someone needs to go.
47:16
And I think that Hegseth is one more
47:19
gaffe away.
47:21
From Ben.
47:22
Yes, you're right, one more gaffe, he's done.
47:24
Yeah, so I like him, but the way
47:29
he responded, did not like him.
47:31
Thought that was a very, very poor, very
47:33
poor.
47:34
He wasn't, he's not using his resources.
47:38
Use your words, Pete.
47:40
No, I'm talking about, you know, there are
47:42
people, the Pentagon has something like 27 to
47:44
60,000 public relations specialists.
47:47
Yeah.
47:49
I mean, that many people, so they can
47:51
just hound the media.
47:53
And they have people there that could, how
47:55
should I respond to this?
47:58
Meetings could take place with 10 of the
48:00
top people.
48:01
Yeah.
48:01
And they would give him, you know, the
48:03
marching orders.
48:04
I don't think, I think they're cutting him
48:06
off.
48:06
I wonder if this could have been a
48:09
Pegasus type deal where someone basically just controls
48:13
your phone and can remotely add someone to
48:18
a signal chat.
48:19
Hey, hey, hey, watch this.
48:22
That seems more likely.
48:23
It wouldn't surprise me.
48:25
By the way, you know, Tina's out of
48:28
town.
48:28
She's in Indiana visiting her mom.
48:32
And so that gives me an opportunity to
48:33
watch stuff that, you know how you, oh,
48:35
you don't know per se, but we're sitting
48:37
at home and I'm surfing through the Netflix
48:39
and I'm like, yeah, let's watch this.
48:41
And like, oh no, that has Robert De
48:43
Niro in it.
48:44
I hate him.
48:48
Which by the way, I'm like, yeah, you're
48:49
right.
48:50
So I watched Zero Day, which is starring
48:54
De Niro and he plays the president, ex
48:57
-president of the United States.
48:59
Very good movie.
49:01
And it deals a lot with what can
49:04
happen with phones and apps and even more
49:08
delightful how, you know what the circumvention is.
49:11
You know, everyone gets around all of these,
49:13
all of these things when they're doing something
49:15
nefarious.
49:16
How did the bad guys communicate?
49:21
How?
49:22
Ham radio, baby.
49:24
Ham radio.
49:27
That's when the story- Well, you know,
49:28
De Niro was also in Wag the Dog.
49:30
Which was a fantastic movie.
49:32
Which is another fantastic movie.
49:33
He was great until he had to pull
49:35
his own documentary out of the Tribeca Film
49:37
Festival about how his kid got autism and
49:39
he thought it was from vaccines.
49:41
And then they were like, you'll never make
49:43
another movie in this town again, De Niro.
49:47
Oh, okay.
49:48
Do you remember that?
49:49
No, I- That was during the show.
49:51
That information has been lost on me.
49:52
No, that was during the show.
49:55
Yeah, he pulled, from his own film festival,
49:57
he pulled the doc- Oh, no, there's
50:00
not enough evidence about this.
50:01
I've decided to pull this documentary.
50:04
That's when he went sour.
50:05
Come on, man, taxi driver.
50:06
Was he a taxi driver?
50:09
Yeah.
50:10
Yeah.
50:10
Yeah.
50:12
So.
50:12
Well, what else we got in this regard?
50:14
Well, I don't think much else.
50:16
I mean, we'll just see what happens, but
50:17
we need to keep an eye on Hegseth
50:19
because I think he's on deck.
50:23
Yeah, that's what it looks like.
50:25
They're not letting up on this.
50:27
Doesn't matter, you got a top MS-13
50:30
guy?
50:30
Who cares?
50:31
Signal Gate.
50:32
You're gonna put 25% tariff on all
50:35
cars coming into America?
50:36
Who cares?
50:37
Signal Gate.
50:38
Who cares?
50:39
Nobody cares.
50:41
Everybody wants it.
50:42
Get some veterans.
50:43
Well, I've fought in the war and people
50:46
I know died because of intelligence mess-ups.
50:51
So cynical, all this stuff.
50:54
I hate mainstream media.
50:56
So let's go to the car tariffs.
50:58
Okay.
51:00
I have the BBC, I have a series,
51:02
these are all spelled C-A-E, and
51:06
tariff is misspelled.
51:10
I usually correct these with this one.
51:12
You got K-Rarefs.
51:13
I thought K-Rarefs was a lady that
51:15
I was very interested in.
51:16
When I saw your clips come in, people
51:17
would have to know, John sends me clips,
51:19
I don't listen to him.
51:20
I just look at the titles to know,
51:22
okay, maybe I don't need a whole series
51:24
of clips here because if there's something about
51:27
K-Rarefs in the news, I don't need
51:30
a clip on her.
51:31
It was a typo.
51:32
And apparently she's an anal.
51:34
It was blurry.
51:35
So we start with the now, my vision
51:38
was blurry.
51:39
Do you drive?
51:41
This is the one, this is not the
51:43
analysis clips.
51:45
Yeah, this is the kickoff.
51:46
Now, just the BBC straight up.
51:48
Wait, is this World Service?
51:50
Yeah, BBC World Service.
51:52
And now another series of clips from the
51:54
BBC World Service.
51:56
President Trump has announced a 25% tariff
51:58
on all cars imported into the United States
52:01
from the 2nd of April.
52:02
He claimed the measure would spur growth in
52:04
the U.S. car industry and create jobs
52:06
and investment.
52:08
Our North America business correspondent, Erin Delmore reports.
52:11
President Trump said the new tariffs would bring
52:13
car and truck production back to the U
52:15
.S. and generate billions of dollars in revenue.
52:18
Mr. Trump made clear that the new tariffs
52:20
are permanent and not a negotiating tactic designed
52:23
to extract concessions from America's trade partners.
52:25
But determining which vehicles are made in America
52:28
can be complicated, particularly when it comes to
52:30
America's closest neighbors, Mexico and Canada.
52:33
The new taxes will immediately hit millions of
52:35
foreign-made cars sold in the U.S.
52:37
each year.
52:38
The move is poised to send a shock
52:40
through the industry with potential for higher prices,
52:42
lower supply and lower production.
52:45
Shares of the U.S.'s big three automakers
52:46
fell in after-hours trading.
52:49
Okay, well, shaking things up.
52:52
I don't know why the prices would fall
52:54
because you think these guys, the U.S.
52:56
automakers would benefit, but I guess the only
52:58
car that's actually made here is Tesla.
53:02
The rest of them are made from parts
53:04
from everywhere.
53:04
Isn't there a carve-out for parts?
53:07
No, not yet.
53:08
Yeah, I think you're wrong.
53:10
Well, they've been talking about it.
53:12
I listened to this morning, I was watching
53:14
Outnumbered, and they had Charles Payne on as
53:19
the dude, because there's a bunch of women
53:22
and one guy.
53:23
And that's why it's called Outnumbered.
53:25
Yes, yes.
53:25
And he went on about it, and they
53:27
talked about the car parts carve-out, and
53:29
it was like, it was still unsettled.
53:32
Ah, well, I'm just going to interrupt, and
53:33
then we'll get back to your BBC anal
53:35
clips.
53:36
This is a French- Analysis is what
53:38
it is.
53:39
I know what it says.
53:41
This production line in Japan is churning out
53:43
Toyota cars, many of them destined for the
53:45
U.S. In a week's time, they'll be
53:47
subject to a punishing 25% tariff, prompting
53:51
the government to plead for an exclusion.
53:55
We have, again, strongly urged the U.S.
53:58
government to exclude Japan from the scope of
54:00
these measures.
54:04
But only if the cars made in America
54:05
- Other top suppliers hit hard by the
54:07
tax are Canada, Mexico, Germany, and South Korea.
54:11
Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney called it a
54:13
direct attack on the country's workers.
54:16
We will defend our workers.
54:18
We will defend- Our companies will defend
54:21
our country.
54:23
Currently, half the cars sold in the U
54:25
.S. are American-made, and industry experts say
54:28
the move could increase prices per car by
54:30
thousands of dollars and impact jobs.
54:33
President Donald Trump says it will revitalize American
54:36
industry.
54:37
And we're going to charge countries for doing
54:44
business in our country and taking our jobs,
54:47
taking our wealth.
54:48
After a 25% duty on steel and
54:50
aluminum, this is Trump's latest move to renege
54:53
on a trade deal he struck in his
54:55
first term with Mexico and Canada.
54:57
The new tariff applies to cars and light
55:00
trucks.
55:01
Auto parts that comply with the 2019 deal
55:03
will remain tariff-free for now.
55:05
There you go.
55:07
Yeah, I don't think that's correct.
55:08
Oh, it's France 24.
55:10
How could you doubt the French?
55:11
Yeah, I don't think they know what they're
55:13
talking about.
55:13
All right, OK.
55:14
So let's go with the analysis clips.
55:17
These should be fairly short.
55:20
Here to make sense of that announcement is
55:22
our North of America correspondent Aaron Delmore.
55:24
Clearest way through it is to think of
55:26
it as a 25% tariff on all
55:28
cars not made in the United States and
55:31
no tariffs on cars made in the United
55:33
States.
55:34
He also made a mention that Americans would
55:37
be able to deduct interest payments on their
55:39
car loans from their taxes if their cars
55:42
are made in America.
55:44
You know, to me, one of the big
55:45
things that stood out is he said he's
55:46
not budging.
55:47
He said that these tariffs are permanent and
55:49
that he's not putting this forward as a
55:51
negotiating tactic to try to get concessions from
55:55
America's trade partners in future tariff negotiations.
55:58
He said, this is permanent.
56:00
We are going to bring domestic production, domestic
56:01
manufacturing of cars and trucks back to the
56:04
United States.
56:05
What about car parts coming into the US?
56:09
Is there any clarification yet as whether they
56:11
may face import duties?
56:13
Because that would be significant, wouldn't it?
56:15
Absolutely.
56:15
Here's why it would be significant.
56:17
Car parts can come in from foreign suppliers,
56:20
but they also are made in Mexico and
56:22
Canada as well, and then cross borders into
56:25
the United States into US production facilities for
56:28
cars that look to be US-made.
56:31
They look and purport to be American-made
56:33
cars, but perhaps within the cars, there are
56:35
not American-made parts.
56:37
Those are foreign-made parts.
56:38
And so now the question, yes, is will
56:40
they be tariffed?
56:40
The best indication and reporting we have now
56:43
is that the answer to that question is
56:45
yes.
56:45
It is, yes, that appears to be the
56:48
case.
56:49
Well, there goes my Corinthian leather.
56:53
Ha ha ha ha.
56:55
That took two pieces to get.
56:56
Another boomer joke.
56:59
Wow.
56:59
I'm easing into my role.
57:01
You're getting worse, by the way.
57:03
I'm easing into it.
57:05
I'm starting to like it.
57:06
Corinthian leather.
57:06
Yeah.
57:07
The old timers that listen to this show
57:09
must get a kick out of us.
57:11
Someone, hopefully somewhere does.
57:13
Well, the kids don't.
57:14
They're going, what the fuck are these guys
57:15
talking about?
57:17
So here we go with clip two.
57:19
This announcement, I mean, we are used to
57:21
lots of tariff announcement.
57:23
This seems a pretty serious one because Donald
57:27
Trump has clearly said he's not going to
57:29
withdraw these tariffs.
57:31
Absolutely.
57:32
And it's a really interesting line in the
57:34
sand.
57:35
I'm listening to Mark Carney there.
57:36
You know, having spent a lot of time
57:37
in Canada, you know, the Canadian auto sector
57:40
is hugely reliant.
57:42
This is, you know, hundreds of thousands of
57:44
jobs, billions of dollars.
57:45
So very significant.
57:46
But I think around the world, now it's
57:48
not going to affect Australia.
57:49
We don't make any cars anymore.
57:50
Haven't for quite some time.
57:52
So it won't have an impact directly in
57:54
that way.
57:54
But, you know, these things have a tendency
57:56
of having a big ripple effect, right?
58:00
And across other sectors.
58:02
And, you know, the steel, aluminium tariffs that
58:05
will be coming onto Australia.
58:06
Already there's shaking the chain on drugs and
58:10
medicines.
58:11
That's something Australia provides a lot of medicines
58:13
to the US and brings a lot in.
58:15
We have a free medicines policy or programme
58:20
for lots of Australians rely on the government
58:22
to buy for no cost or low cost
58:25
medicines.
58:25
Ireland's also worried about it.
58:27
So, but I mean, I don't know, can
58:29
he really have a permanent tariff?
58:32
I don't know.
58:32
I don't know whether that's possible.
58:33
I would imagine, unless he intends to be
58:36
the permanent president, I wouldn't think there'd be
58:37
permanent tariffs, but I don't know.
58:39
And I don't think we should be predicting
58:43
too much at this point.
58:44
Stephanie, it is a complicated issue and tariffs
58:48
here because the global car industry operates in
58:52
so many different parts of the world.
58:54
So you're sitting there in your office and
58:56
you're like, oh yeah, I gotta do this.
58:59
I gotta get that laugh extra extra kooky.
59:03
We don't, we do work for you people.
59:06
What was it?
59:07
Shaking the chain, I like that.
59:10
Shaking the chain.
59:10
This whole thing is because, this is a
59:13
non-significant, or a quite significant idea that
59:17
he thinks he's gonna do.
59:19
The global, you start to realize when you
59:22
start hearing these analysis, especially the moaning and
59:25
groaning that takes place from everyone.
59:27
Oh, the Australians, now they're worried about this
59:29
and that.
59:30
And all the Canadians think it's all about
59:32
them.
59:33
You realize that the globalist entanglements have been
59:37
set up so well.
59:39
It's massive.
59:40
It's massive.
59:40
That it's like, wow, these guys, Trump is
59:43
not gonna pull this off.
59:46
I don't think he's gonna pull it off.
59:48
Oh, I think he will.
59:48
Oh, I definitely think he will.
59:50
And I'll tell you why after your clips.
59:52
Okay.
59:53
All right.
59:53
Onward.
59:54
Around 50% of cars sold in the
59:56
US are imported.
59:57
It is the world's biggest importer of cars.
1:00:00
About 22% of those imports in 2024
1:00:03
came from Mexico.
1:00:05
Juan Carlos Baker Pineda, of course, familiar voice
1:00:07
on this program, is Mexico's former vice minister
1:00:09
for foreign trade, currently a researcher at the
1:00:12
Pan American University in Mexico City.
1:00:17
Quintus, hello, Juan Carlos.
1:00:17
Hiya.
1:00:18
Yeah, you know, there's a lot going on
1:00:20
in the world and there's a lot of
1:00:21
confusion about many things.
1:00:23
You're in Mexico.
1:00:24
I am.
1:00:24
Yeah.
1:00:25
Yes.
1:00:25
What do you make of this decision?
1:00:27
It could have a huge impact on the
1:00:29
car industry there.
1:00:30
I love this.
1:00:30
You're in Mexico.
1:00:31
Yes, yes.
1:00:32
I'm a country town.
1:00:33
I'm in Mexico.
1:00:36
Yes, absolutely.
1:00:38
And the consequences of this are not entirely
1:00:40
clear right now.
1:00:41
But as you say, the impact on this
1:00:45
is very significant because cars represent the largest
1:00:49
export of Mexico to the United States.
1:00:52
It also represents a significant sizable contribution of
1:00:56
the GDP, anywhere between 8% and 9
1:00:59
% of Mexico's GDP somehow is connected to
1:01:02
the automotive industry.
1:01:02
So there's a lot of confusion.
1:01:03
The fact that these tariffs are announced and
1:01:05
the fact that President Trump seems to have
1:01:07
no regard whatsoever for the USMCA and its
1:01:10
rules clearly is very disturbing.
1:01:13
Right now, today, the Minister of the Economy,
1:01:16
Secretary Marcelo Ebrard and his team are in
1:01:20
Washington and it has been reported that they
1:01:22
will be having meetings tonight and tomorrow with
1:01:25
the people of President Trump's cabinet, the Secretary
1:01:28
of Commerce.
1:01:28
And clearly something has to be worked out
1:01:31
because if the tariffs are imposed, as the
1:01:33
President suggests, well, the impact on Mexico is
1:01:35
gonna be significant and it's gonna change the
1:01:38
moods, I would say, Rahul, between Mexico and
1:01:40
the United States right now.
1:01:42
And the relationship as it is is going
1:01:44
through some tense moments and this clearly is
1:01:47
not gonna help at all.
1:01:51
Go on and on.
1:01:53
And so let's go to the last clip,
1:01:54
which is, I think, another...
1:01:56
So we have the Mexicans complaining, the Australians
1:01:59
complaining.
1:02:00
I don't know why they're complaining.
1:02:01
The Canadians complaining, the Europeans, everyone's complaining.
1:02:05
Because they believe he's serious and I think
1:02:08
he is.
1:02:09
Let us hear a couple of more voices
1:02:10
now.
1:02:11
Firstly, here's Glenn Stevens.
1:02:12
He's Executive Director of Detroit-based industry, auto
1:02:15
industry group, Mitch Auto.
1:02:16
He told me these tariffs are bad news
1:02:18
for the industry and customers.
1:02:20
We don't see any positives in the short
1:02:22
term.
1:02:23
We had anticipated this.
1:02:25
The President had signaled this, but about half
1:02:29
of the vehicles sold in the United States
1:02:30
every year are imported, 7.68 million last
1:02:34
year.
1:02:34
So this is a significant shock to the
1:02:36
system.
1:02:37
We also have steel and aluminum tariffs.
1:02:39
We have China tariffs, now reciprocal, and now
1:02:42
these tariffs.
1:02:43
The cost of the vehicle, the input costs
1:02:45
will go up.
1:02:46
We expect anywhere from 3,000 to 10
1:02:49
,000, depending on the transaction price of the
1:02:51
vehicle, it will increase.
1:02:53
And in the US, a vehicle already costs
1:02:55
$49,000 to purchase new on average.
1:02:59
So it's already at an all-time high.
1:03:01
We're concerned about this.
1:03:03
We have a lot of questions right now,
1:03:04
tonight, that we're trying to sort through.
1:03:06
What's a tough one on your list that
1:03:08
you're gonna try and answer?
1:03:09
Which is the one you're struggling with at
1:03:11
the most at the moment?
1:03:12
Are you trying to make sense of this?
1:03:13
Yeah, the number one issue is, are vehicles
1:03:16
from Canada and Mexico, because of the existing
1:03:20
USMCA agreement, are they included in this?
1:03:24
It appears that they are, but we don't
1:03:26
have confirmation of that.
1:03:28
And that is a big situation, particularly for
1:03:30
the companies based in Michigan, Ford, GM, and
1:03:33
Stellantis.
1:03:34
So just to give you an idea, and
1:03:38
actually one of our producers just posted that
1:03:40
in the troll room.
1:03:43
In the Netherlands, you have something called BPM,
1:03:51
which is a special tax for cars.
1:03:58
And if you do the math, let me
1:04:02
see, a Ford Mustang, which costs, what is
1:04:06
it, $35,000, $40,000?
1:04:09
Yeah.
1:04:09
In the Netherlands, 120,000, after the VAT,
1:04:14
the BPM, the climate tax, all that stuff
1:04:16
is put on.
1:04:18
But BPM is just a made up number.
1:04:19
It's like, oh, well, we gotta tax you
1:04:23
for that.
1:04:24
So Trump is not wrong.
1:04:27
No, I think he's correct.
1:04:29
And when you look at- What I'm
1:04:33
saying is that I'm not complaining about his
1:04:35
correctness or his righteousness about this.
1:04:39
I'm complaining, not complaining, but I'm suggesting that
1:04:43
the entanglements are so broad-based that it's
1:04:47
going to be almost impossible to actually make
1:04:50
any of this work.
1:04:50
Well, but this is the hill he's going
1:04:53
to die on.
1:04:54
This has been his thing for 30, 40
1:04:58
years he's been talking about this.
1:05:00
So now he has the opportunity, and he
1:05:03
means it, and he's trying to brand it,
1:05:05
but he's not doing a very good job.
1:05:07
Well, I may give a lot of countries
1:05:08
breaks, but it's reciprocal, but we might be
1:05:12
even nicer than that.
1:05:14
You know, we've been very nice to a
1:05:15
lot of countries for a long time, but
1:05:17
I call it Liberation Day.
1:05:19
April 2nd is Liberation Day.
1:05:21
But today, as you know, we did something
1:05:23
with respect to Venezuela.
1:05:25
You heard about that.
1:05:26
And that will be quite important.
1:05:29
We'll be announcing some additional tariffs over the
1:05:31
next few days, having to do with automobiles,
1:05:35
cars, and having also to do a little
1:05:37
bit with lumber down the road, lumber and
1:05:40
chips.
1:05:42
We're going to get all those chip companies
1:05:44
coming back.
1:05:44
They're already coming back without even doing it.
1:05:47
So it's been very good, but we'll be
1:05:49
announcing some others.
1:05:50
But for the most part, April 2nd will
1:05:52
be a big day.
1:05:53
That'll be reciprocal day.
1:05:54
And we'll be bringing some of the money
1:05:57
back that's been taken from us.
1:05:59
Let's be nice by using the word taken.
1:06:01
I don't want to use a stronger word
1:06:03
because these guys are professional politicians and they
1:06:06
don't like to hear those words.
1:06:07
I refuse to use the word stolen from
1:06:10
us.
1:06:11
So it's Liberation Day.
1:06:13
It's Reciprocal Day.
1:06:14
It's, I don't know what day it is.
1:06:16
It's April 2nd.
1:06:18
He needs to work on it.
1:06:19
That's what you mean by he's not branding.
1:06:22
No, no.
1:06:22
I mean, if you're going to do Liberation
1:06:25
Day, you need a media package.
1:06:27
You need some memes out there on the
1:06:29
internet of people with big F250s and Mustangs,
1:06:34
you know, cruising around.
1:06:36
Yeah, it could be coordinated better.
1:06:38
Not to mention he's better.
1:06:40
There's really no, he's sticking with his, you
1:06:44
know, running a million miles an hour, but
1:06:46
not really coordinating anything in such a way
1:06:48
that you have a big splash that goes
1:06:50
from one thing to another.
1:06:52
Yeah, so instead he has a very small
1:06:54
announcement.
1:06:55
Today we're delighted to report that Hyundai is
1:06:58
announcing a major $5.8 billion investment in
1:07:01
American manufacturing.
1:07:04
In particular, Hyundai will be building a brand
1:07:06
new steel plant in Louisiana, which will produce
1:07:09
more than 2.7 million metric tons of
1:07:12
steel a year, creating more than 1,400
1:07:14
jobs for American steel workers.
1:07:16
And then there'll be major expansion after that.
1:07:19
This will be Hyundai's first ever steel mill
1:07:22
in the United States, one of the largest
1:07:24
companies in the world, by the way, supplying
1:07:26
steel for its auto parts and auto plants
1:07:29
in Alabama and Georgia, which will soon produce
1:07:32
more than 1 million American-made cars every
1:07:35
single year.
1:07:36
The cars are coming into this country at
1:07:38
levels never seen before.
1:07:40
Get ready.
1:07:41
This investment is a clear demonstration that tariffs
1:07:44
very strongly work, and I hope other things
1:07:48
also, but the tariffs are bringing them in
1:07:51
at levels that have not been witnessed.
1:07:57
So a million American cars.
1:07:59
Well, I mean, everyone's going to buy an
1:08:00
American car if you're going to buy a
1:08:01
car, or American-made car, I should say.
1:08:04
That part will work, especially if you get,
1:08:07
if you're allowed to deduct the interest on
1:08:09
your car loan.
1:08:10
Whoa, now you're talking.
1:08:13
But that's a Congress thing.
1:08:15
That's not an executive order, is it?
1:08:17
That's a tax thing.
1:08:18
Yeah, which is Congress.
1:08:20
I would say, the problem is we don't,
1:08:24
with half the cars being imported, until these
1:08:27
reports came out, I didn't realize that half
1:08:29
of our, in other words, our own automotive
1:08:31
industry can't even keep up with the Toyota.
1:08:34
No.
1:08:35
And the BMW and all the people that
1:08:37
ship cars into this country.
1:08:41
So half of them are imported.
1:08:42
They'd have to double production of American cars,
1:08:45
which they're not going to be able to
1:08:46
do.
1:08:46
You can't just double production overnight.
1:08:50
And I think what one thing that's going
1:08:52
to happen is the used car market is
1:08:53
going to heat up again.
1:08:55
Exactly.
1:08:56
I'm like, I'm not driving my car.
1:08:58
I'm keeping my miles, but I'll need a
1:08:59
car.
1:09:00
That's the problem.
1:09:02
Yeah, you need a car.
1:09:03
Do you have wind chimes in your studio
1:09:05
now all of a sudden?
1:09:06
Oh, this is these things in the back.
1:09:09
It's funny.
1:09:10
You know, I don't understand how that mic
1:09:11
can pick this up.
1:09:12
It's my ears.
1:09:15
Well, I don't think anyone else can anyway.
1:09:16
Ask the chat room.
1:09:18
I'm going to- We don't have a
1:09:19
chat room.
1:09:19
Yeah, trolls.
1:09:20
Trolls, do you hear the chimes?
1:09:23
Now I'm ringing them loud.
1:09:24
Yeah, well, you hear that for sure.
1:09:26
Well, not necessarily.
1:09:28
That's on the backside of the mic.
1:09:29
Everybody hears it.
1:09:30
Everybody hears it.
1:09:31
They all hear that?
1:09:32
Yeah, they all hear it.
1:09:35
Yes.
1:09:36
That's disappointing.
1:09:37
It must be reflective.
1:09:39
That could be it.
1:09:40
Of course, one of the hottest car manufacturers
1:09:43
right now is certainly not American.
1:09:45
BYD sales last year surpassed the $100 billion
1:09:48
mark, beating rival Tesla on revenue for the
1:09:51
first time since 2018.
1:09:53
It reported a revenue of $107 billion for
1:09:56
2024, up 29%.
1:09:58
Tesla's 2024 revenue, meanwhile, stood at 97.7
1:10:03
billion.
1:10:03
This year already looks like it could be
1:10:05
an even better one for the Chinese EV
1:10:07
maker.
1:10:07
It unveiled a new ecosystem that allows EVs
1:10:10
to charge for 400 kilometers in just five
1:10:12
minutes and introduced advanced driver assistance technology in
1:10:16
even its most basic models.
1:10:19
You wanted to say something?
1:10:19
I'd like to know, BYD I'm impressed with,
1:10:24
but of course they don't sell even one
1:10:27
car in this country, so the market possibilities
1:10:30
for them is pretty high.
1:10:31
I think you have the same question I
1:10:33
have about the charging.
1:10:36
How does this work?
1:10:38
Well, I'd looked it up.
1:10:40
It will charge within five minutes with a,
1:10:44
now they make it sound nice to say,
1:10:45
a thousand kilowatt charger.
1:10:47
That's a megawatt.
1:10:49
You're gonna put a megawatt charger in my
1:10:51
house now?
1:10:52
No, it's not for, no, the idea, no,
1:10:54
that's not the idea.
1:10:55
That's what I read.
1:10:57
No, the idea is that you have gas
1:10:59
station like facilities that you drive to and
1:11:03
you stick it just like in a normal
1:11:05
gas station.
1:11:06
The big advantage, we don't have, I don't
1:11:09
keep gas here at the house.
1:11:11
I go to the gas station and within
1:11:12
five minutes I fill up a tank of
1:11:14
gas.
1:11:15
The idea is that you should be able
1:11:16
to do the same thing with an electric
1:11:17
car as opposed to nowadays where you stop
1:11:19
at one of these charging stations.
1:11:21
You have to wait a half an hour
1:11:23
for the car to get even a 300
1:11:25
mile, even a half charge.
1:11:28
It takes an hour to two hours sometimes
1:11:30
to get a full charge.
1:11:31
No, I understand.
1:11:33
So they wanna make it so you don't
1:11:35
have to charge at home.
1:11:37
I understand, but are you gonna get a
1:11:39
megawatt at gas stations?
1:11:41
How is that going to happen?
1:11:45
One megawatt.
1:11:47
That's a pretty big jolt.
1:11:49
I mean, yeah, yes, you're absolutely right.
1:11:52
But that means you need a whole bunch
1:11:54
of infrastructure to do what you just explained.
1:11:56
The infrastructure's not there.
1:11:57
You're right.
1:12:00
They can't even, in fact, Biden for the
1:12:02
whole four years, if you recall, right at
1:12:05
the get-go in 2020 says, we're gonna
1:12:07
build 300,000 charging stations or some outrageous
1:12:11
number.
1:12:11
It was at least 50,000.
1:12:13
I'm not sure what the number is now
1:12:14
because I've forgotten, but he was gonna build,
1:12:17
and he built one.
1:12:21
So BYD has a deal with Shell in
1:12:24
Shenzhen and the airport has 258 public fast
1:12:29
charging ports.
1:12:30
I don't know if these are the.
1:12:33
No, they're not.
1:12:34
No, this five-minute thing is brand new.
1:12:36
There's no way that they're gonna have that
1:12:38
many online right away.
1:12:39
It's gonna take forever.
1:12:41
So if it takes a megawatt, you're gonna
1:12:44
have to have some serious juice going in
1:12:46
there.
1:12:46
So they say that, so this is near
1:12:49
the airport, solar panels installed on the roof
1:12:51
could generate about 300 kilowatt hours of renewable
1:12:55
electricity electronically used to charge the vehicles.
1:12:58
I'm skeptical of that too.
1:13:01
So, I mean, a kilowatt hour.
1:13:03
Especially in China or around that airport.
1:13:05
I've been to China enough to know that.
1:13:07
With all the smog.
1:13:08
There's no sun.
1:13:10
Exactly.
1:13:12
So I'm skeptical about this announcement.
1:13:15
And to get that amount of power, you
1:13:18
have to have these coal-burning power stations
1:13:22
making this smog worse.
1:13:25
Yeah.
1:13:26
Yeah, so I'm very skeptical about all that.
1:13:29
Yeah, I am too.
1:13:30
I mean, I think they may have the
1:13:32
technology, but I don't think they have the
1:13:34
- Well, sure.
1:13:36
I mean, I could make- By the
1:13:38
way, I'm skeptical about the technology too.
1:13:41
If I could get a megawatt of power,
1:13:44
I'd be mining Bitcoin.
1:13:46
Come on, man.
1:13:47
I'm not gonna charge my car.
1:13:48
I'll stay home and print money.
1:13:51
This is a lot of power.
1:13:53
One of the news girls, you'll recognize who
1:13:56
it is.
1:13:57
I don't know if it's CBS or the
1:13:59
NBC girl.
1:13:59
Talked to Warren Buffett about the tariffs, and
1:14:01
he had some interesting answers.
1:14:03
How do you think tariffs will affect the
1:14:05
economy?
1:14:06
I mean, tariffs are actually, we've had a
1:14:08
lot of experience with them.
1:14:10
They're an act of war to some degree.
1:14:13
How do you think tariffs will impact inflation?
1:14:16
Over time, there are attacks on goods.
1:14:18
I mean, you know.
1:14:20
It's an attack.
1:14:21
What?
1:14:22
Is that Nora?
1:14:23
I think it is Nora, yeah.
1:14:25
Yeah.
1:14:25
Well, it's a highly edited piece, but she's
1:14:28
talking about inflation, and he's talking about inflation,
1:14:31
but he's talking about money printing inflation, as
1:14:33
far as I'm concerned.
1:14:34
On goods, I mean, you know, it just
1:14:37
very doesn't pay up.
1:14:38
I mean, you always have to just, and
1:14:42
then what?
1:14:43
You always have to ask that question in
1:14:44
economics.
1:14:45
Always say, and then what?
1:14:46
So is there an answer for that when
1:14:47
people say, you know, inflation persists, consumer prices
1:14:51
keep going up?
1:14:52
When's the end in sight?
1:14:53
No, prices will be higher 10 years from
1:14:55
now and 20 years from now and 30
1:14:57
years from now.
1:14:58
And what do you think about what's happening
1:14:59
in Washington right now?
1:15:00
That's because of money printing.
1:15:02
Of course, it'll be more expensive 10 years
1:15:04
from now, 20 years from now.
1:15:06
Yeah, always has been.
1:15:07
Yeah, we also, we used to buy our
1:15:09
Toyota trucks for $59.99. About efforts to
1:15:12
- I think it's Washington.
1:15:14
Yeah.
1:15:14
It's, you know, technology changes things, all kinds
1:15:18
of things, but Washington is Washington.
1:15:20
And the problem with politics is that you
1:15:23
tend to have to make tiny compromises as
1:15:26
you go along.
1:15:28
There you go.
1:15:30
So they got him to say prices will
1:15:33
go up, but I don't think he was
1:15:34
in the same conversation.
1:15:36
And we'll see.
1:15:37
We'll see what happens.
1:15:39
I mean, it all comes down to what
1:15:40
do we want to buy?
1:15:41
You know, he's not taxing avocados.
1:15:46
No tariffs on that.
1:15:48
Not a car.
1:15:49
Well, when's the last time you bought a
1:15:50
car?
1:15:51
26 years ago?
1:15:55
I bought a car, when did I buy
1:15:57
this last car?
1:15:58
Used, of course.
1:15:59
Of course.
1:16:00
Bought it about seven years ago, maybe.
1:16:03
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
1:16:04
It's not like, oh, no one will buy
1:16:06
cars anymore.
1:16:10
We'll see.
1:16:12
The, in general, though, the economy of certain
1:16:15
states is pretty bad.
1:16:18
Really bad in California.
1:16:20
Now, this was a shocking report, John, shocking.
1:16:24
Several businesses along the famed Sunset Strip have
1:16:27
closed in recent months.
1:16:28
Others are on the verge, and there is
1:16:30
a community effort underway to save one of
1:16:32
them.
1:16:33
KTLA's Annie Rose Ramos, live in West Hollywood,
1:16:35
with more on that.
1:16:36
Annie Rose, good morning.
1:16:37
Hey, guys, good morning to you both.
1:16:39
Yeah, we keep on hearing about this happening
1:16:40
over and over again.
1:16:42
We counted a total of five businesses and
1:16:44
restaurants that have announced their closing just in
1:16:47
the past two months.
1:16:48
Okay, so she's on the Sunset Strip.
1:16:50
It's a big story.
1:16:51
An important restaurant is closing.
1:16:53
Which one is it?
1:16:54
You've been up and down the Strip.
1:16:55
You've been to Le Dome.
1:16:56
It's not Le Dome, by the way.
1:16:58
You've been to some of the cool places
1:17:00
on Sunset Strip.
1:17:01
Which one is closing?
1:17:04
Probably someplace I never heard of.
1:17:06
No, you've heard of this one.
1:17:08
On the Sunset Strip.
1:17:10
I've been to this one many times.
1:17:13
I don't know.
1:17:13
Here on the Sunset Strip, including the restaurant
1:17:16
you see behind me, beloved Le Petit Four.
1:17:18
It has been around.
1:17:19
Le Petit Four, Le Petit Four.
1:17:22
That's where all the Russians in tracksuits hang
1:17:25
out.
1:17:27
I've never been there.
1:17:28
You've never been to Le Petit Four?
1:17:30
Oh.
1:17:30
No.
1:17:31
For over 40 years, and now some community
1:17:34
members coming together to make a last-ditch
1:17:36
effort in order to try and save it.
1:17:39
Take a look here.
1:17:39
They are posting this GoFundMe page.
1:17:42
Yeah, with $6,000.
1:17:43
Good luck keeping your restaurant going.
1:17:46
Especially on that property.
1:17:48
Yeah.
1:17:48
But maybe the Strip has just died.
1:17:51
It probably has.
1:17:54
Probably has.
1:17:54
The last time I was down there, it
1:17:56
didn't have the same vibrancy that it used
1:17:59
to have.
1:17:59
That's for sure.
1:18:00
Oh man, when I lived there, it didn't
1:18:01
have that vibrancy.
1:18:02
It was already horrible.
1:18:04
Compared to like late 80s, early 90s, when
1:18:08
we go out to LA to film stuff.
1:18:11
No.
1:18:12
It's no good.
1:18:13
Yeah, there's a depressing aspect to LA at
1:18:16
the moment.
1:18:17
Like San Francisco, it's depressing because of all
1:18:21
the homeless.
1:18:24
And it's got nothing to do with the
1:18:26
California economy.
1:18:27
It has to do with the policies regarding
1:18:29
the homeless encampments and the allowance and crime,
1:18:34
a lot of crime.
1:18:35
Well, but who lives in California?
1:18:37
Just poor people and a bunch of rich
1:18:38
people.
1:18:43
I'm just guessing.
1:18:44
Well, there's middle class in California.
1:18:46
There's a lot of middle class.
1:18:47
In the valley, in the porn industry.
1:18:52
Yeah, it's not generalized.
1:18:53
Okay.
1:18:54
All right, you've got- Why would we
1:18:55
do that?
1:18:55
You've got several series here, so I'm going
1:18:57
to let you choose one.
1:18:59
Let's see what we got.
1:19:00
Because unlike you, when you have a series,
1:19:03
I just step back and let you go.
1:19:04
Yeah, there's some of this.
1:19:05
Let's do the order on...
1:19:10
Oh, this is a quickie.
1:19:11
This is an order on elections that didn't
1:19:13
get any play at all.
1:19:15
Oh, I thought it was pretty big.
1:19:17
Trump on the elections?
1:19:18
I didn't hear much about it.
1:19:21
President Trump signed an executive order yesterday that
1:19:23
aims to make sweeping changes to elections and
1:19:27
voter registration, including a proof of citizenship requirement.
1:19:32
Legal experts are calling it an overreach of
1:19:35
presidential authority and warned that the provisions could
1:19:38
block tens of millions of eligible Americans from
1:19:41
voting.
1:19:42
Joining us now with more is NPR's Jude
1:19:43
Joffe Block.
1:19:44
Hi, Jude.
1:19:44
Hello.
1:19:45
Hello.
1:19:46
Hello.
1:19:46
Hello.
1:19:47
Okay, so what exactly is in this-
1:19:50
Once again, no time or expense spared for
1:19:52
this program.
1:19:53
Executive order.
1:19:54
Right, right, right.
1:19:55
Well, there's a lot in here.
1:19:56
And so it lays out a number of
1:19:58
new requirements and says if states don't comply,
1:20:00
they will not get federal funding.
1:20:03
So one big change is this new proof
1:20:05
of citizenship requirement to register to vote in
1:20:07
federal elections.
1:20:08
So you'd need to show a copy of
1:20:10
a citizenship document, like a passport, to a
1:20:13
local or state official in order to register
1:20:15
to vote or whenever you update your registration,
1:20:18
like if you move.
1:20:20
Another change, the executive order aims to stop
1:20:22
states from counting mailed ballots that are postmarked
1:20:26
by election day but arrive after.
1:20:28
This is something that a lot of states
1:20:29
allow.
1:20:30
Wait, legally, can the president make all of
1:20:33
these changes simply by executive order?
1:20:36
Well, that's really the key question.
1:20:38
So Trump is trying to assert that he,
1:20:40
as president, has authority over elections, and that's
1:20:42
not been the case.
1:20:44
We have a decentralized system where states make
1:20:46
a lot of their own election rules.
1:20:48
This order seeks to expand the president's power
1:20:51
and test how far it can go.
1:20:53
Yeah, I don't think he's gonna get that
1:20:54
through.
1:20:55
I like it, but I don't think that's
1:20:56
gonna happen.
1:20:57
I agree.
1:20:58
Not gonna happen.
1:20:59
I did learn that in Title 18 of
1:21:02
the U.S. Code, that if you vote
1:21:06
in a general election as a non-resident
1:21:10
and non-citizen, I should say, and you're
1:21:14
caught, you will not be prosecuted as long
1:21:19
as you believed you were a citizen, which
1:21:22
is very interesting.
1:21:24
I don't- Well, that's interesting.
1:21:25
I don't think that's in this report, it
1:21:27
should be.
1:21:27
No, I don't know when that snuck in,
1:21:29
but that is like, oh, okay.
1:21:31
So you can do it if you get
1:21:32
caught, oh, well, no problem.
1:21:33
I thought I was a citizen, huh?
1:21:35
What?
1:21:36
We've already heard from voting rights advocates that
1:21:38
lawsuits are going to challenge this, and normally,
1:21:41
an overhaul like this would be something for
1:21:43
Congress to take on, and in fact, Republicans
1:21:46
have been backing a bill called the SAVE
1:21:48
Act that includes a lot of the same
1:21:50
provisions as this order.
1:21:51
Oh, man, that thing's been around for years,
1:21:53
the SAVE Act.
1:21:54
That's not new.
1:21:55
It goes nowhere.
1:21:56
Oh, no.
1:21:56
That bill likely faces an uphill battle in
1:21:59
the Senate, so instead, some critics are saying
1:22:01
Trump is forcing through that legislation by executive
1:22:04
fiat.
1:22:05
Well, what has President Trump said about why
1:22:09
he's pushing these changes?
1:22:11
Well, he says it's necessary for election integrity.
1:22:14
Here he is yesterday when he signed the
1:22:15
order.
1:22:16
We gotta straighten out our election.
1:22:18
This country is so sick because of the
1:22:20
election, the fake elections and the bad elections.
1:22:23
You know, of course, Trump touts the results
1:22:25
of the last election, which he won, but
1:22:27
it's long been part of his brand to
1:22:28
make false claims, false claims about voter fraud,
1:22:31
most notably when he denied the results of
1:22:33
the 2020 election, and in the lead-up
1:22:36
to this past election, he and his allies
1:22:38
made baseless, baseless claims about the threat of
1:22:40
noncitizens voting in large numbers, which we know
1:22:43
from audits and studies that such cases are
1:22:45
really rare, yet that's what they're targeting here.
1:22:48
Yeah, okay, well, I'm curious.
1:22:49
How are voting experts reacting to this order?
1:22:52
You know, I just had an idea.
1:22:54
Exit strategy does require work, but we could
1:22:57
get people to help us.
1:22:59
We could just do NPR Remixed, and it's
1:23:03
just doing exactly what you do.
1:23:05
All those strange things they put in there,
1:23:08
all of the little NLP tricks, all the
1:23:11
hyperforas, all that stuff could just be NPR
1:23:13
Remixed, and it would be a popular stream.
1:23:16
You know, put it to some music.
1:23:17
It wouldn't get a couple of our end
1:23:18
-of-show mixers to put a beat under
1:23:20
it.
1:23:23
Yeah, it would be.
1:23:23
I'm sure NPR would take offense, and we'd
1:23:26
get a cease and desist for, well, copyright.
1:23:32
For what?
1:23:33
For you, for you, for you.
1:23:35
Well, you know, I think there's an argument
1:23:37
that could be made that you could say
1:23:39
it was for entertainment humor purposes.
1:23:42
Yes, parody, parody under, what's it called?
1:23:47
I don't know, fair use?
1:23:48
Fair use, yes, parody under fair use.
1:23:51
Totally appropriate.
1:23:52
Yeah, well, until then, I'm doing these.
1:23:55
Well, I spoke with UCLA law professor Rick
1:23:57
Hasen, and he brought up how very rare
1:23:59
these cases of non-citizen voting are, but
1:24:01
that a proof-of-citizenship requirement would have
1:24:04
a big impact and could disenfranchise millions of
1:24:06
voters.
1:24:07
So you'd be using a very strict rule
1:24:11
to prevent a very small amount of fraud.
1:24:16
The intention seems likely to be to suppress
1:24:18
the vote rather than to try to make
1:24:20
our elections filled with greater integrity.
1:24:24
Of course.
1:24:24
And, you know, people are already asked on
1:24:26
voter registration forms to attest under penalty of
1:24:29
perjury if they're citizens and eligible to vote,
1:24:31
and they can face prison or deportation if
1:24:33
they try to vote illegally.
1:24:35
Okay, say more.
1:24:36
No, that's not true.
1:24:38
Unless, if they believe they were citizens, then
1:24:41
there's no problem.
1:24:42
Prison or deportation.
1:24:42
Yes, in fact, that should have been in
1:24:44
the report.
1:24:44
In the report, should have been right in
1:24:45
there.
1:24:45
But it wasn't.
1:24:46
Incorrect.
1:24:47
And, you know, people are already asked on
1:24:49
voter registration forms to attest under penalty of
1:24:51
perjury if they're citizens and eligible to vote,
1:24:53
and they can face prison or deportation if
1:24:56
they try to vote illegally.
1:24:57
Okay, say more about how Rick Hasen told
1:25:00
you if this order stands, millions of voters
1:25:03
could be disenfranchised.
1:25:04
Like, how would that happen exactly?
1:25:06
Right, well, past studies have found that almost
1:25:08
one in 10 Americans doesn't have a proof
1:25:11
of citizenship document or doesn't have easy access
1:25:14
to one.
1:25:14
And this order is also a bit vague
1:25:16
about even which documents would be accepted as
1:25:18
proof of citizenship.
1:25:19
It doesn't explicitly name birth certificates.
1:25:22
It does name passports, but only about half
1:25:25
of Americans have those.
1:25:26
They cost money and take a while to
1:25:28
get.
1:25:28
So this rule would likely upend voter registration
1:25:31
drives as well and other ways that Americans
1:25:34
are used to signing up to vote.
1:25:35
This would really be a sea change.
1:25:38
Did I just hear an iPhone go?
1:25:41
Was that on the clip or was that
1:25:42
you?
1:25:43
It wasn't me.
1:25:44
I don't have an iPhone.
1:25:45
It would upend voter registration drives as well
1:25:48
and other ways that Americans are used to
1:25:50
signing up to vote.
1:25:51
This would really be a sea change.
1:25:52
I was gonna say, like, wait a minute,
1:25:54
John has an iPhone.
1:25:56
No.
1:26:00
So annoying that NPR, they just never have
1:26:03
anyone on from the other side.
1:26:04
They are just, oh, this is no good.
1:26:06
Oh, this is bad.
1:26:08
Oh, he's not gonna make it through the
1:26:09
court.
1:26:10
PBS is worse.
1:26:12
Never, never.
1:26:12
They have one side.
1:26:14
They was brought up during the congressional hearings
1:26:15
and I'm surprised you didn't have that clip
1:26:17
where they asked this Maher woman, you realize
1:26:21
that they challenged the reporters.
1:26:23
You had 87 reporters.
1:26:26
They're all registered Democrats.
1:26:27
There's not one Republican that works in the
1:26:29
newsroom.
1:26:30
87%, wasn't it?
1:26:31
That was 80?
1:26:32
No, it was a total number.
1:26:33
Yeah.
1:26:34
87 to nothing.
1:26:35
Thanks for saying you're surprised.
1:26:37
You should email me with that.
1:26:39
I'm surprised you didn't get that clip.
1:26:42
I'm surprised you didn't get that clip because
1:26:45
that was, I thought was a key element.
1:26:47
Oh, it was a surprise.
1:26:51
Big surprise, no Republicans at NPR, huh?
1:26:55
I know.
1:26:57
And she was like, whoa, that's interesting.
1:26:59
And she acted like she didn't know.
1:27:02
That was the funny part about it.
1:27:03
What, what?
1:27:05
Gambling?
1:27:06
I can't believe that.
1:27:08
She's a spook.
1:27:11
Okay, I want to, I have a couple
1:27:13
of clips here.
1:27:15
That means the series don't go to the
1:27:16
end.
1:27:19
You used the word splash earlier.
1:27:22
I can't remember.
1:27:23
I did?
1:27:23
Yeah, you said make a splash or something.
1:27:27
Well, I think it had to do with
1:27:28
Trump's approach.
1:27:30
Yeah, maybe.
1:27:32
Yeah, well, because this is a word that
1:27:34
we heard about a week ago and it's
1:27:36
back and you could say splash or you
1:27:39
could say splash.
1:27:40
For the Hague Summit, what I hope coming
1:27:45
out of the Hague Summit is that it
1:27:46
will really be a splash.
1:27:47
A splash, a big splash.
1:27:49
This is the splash.
1:27:50
This is Mark Rutte.
1:27:51
He is the head of the NATO and
1:27:54
he is, this is the big Hague Summit
1:27:56
which he wants to be a splash.
1:27:59
Projecting the collective NATO power and therefore also
1:28:02
American power on the world stage.
1:28:04
Yes, he's working for us still.
1:28:07
Of course, defending the Euro-Atlantic but I
1:28:09
would even say the world stage because it's
1:28:12
not extending Article 5 to the Indo-Pacific
1:28:15
but working together as NATO also to make
1:28:17
sure that we keep the Indo-Pacific safe
1:28:20
and that means spending more.
1:28:22
It means producing more.
1:28:24
Wait, stop.
1:28:26
What does NATO stand for?
1:28:28
North American Treaty.
1:28:30
North Atlantic.
1:28:31
North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
1:28:33
What's that got to do with the Indo
1:28:35
-Pacific?
1:28:36
North Atlantic is a very specific area.
1:28:38
It does not make a difference.
1:28:40
It's the Atlantic Ocean, the northern part.
1:28:42
You can make a splash in any ocean.
1:28:45
So it does not matter where the splash
1:28:47
is as long as it's a splash and
1:28:49
it shows American power.
1:28:52
And that means spending more.
1:28:54
It means producing more.
1:28:55
Spending more on war stuff.
1:28:58
It means a fair distribution between the US
1:29:02
and other NATO allies.
1:29:03
Yes, it's fair.
1:29:05
We need, you're not fair.
1:29:06
You're not fair, Europe.
1:29:07
And as I said, it will be about
1:29:10
the lethality.
1:29:11
Lethality of NATO.
1:29:12
Lethality!
1:29:13
Yo, where we kill you with this stuff,
1:29:15
man.
1:29:15
NATO kill you, lethality.
1:29:18
And as I said, it will be about
1:29:20
the lethality.
1:29:21
Lethality of NATO showing that, yes, we will
1:29:24
never be an offensive organization.
1:29:26
We are a defensive organization.
1:29:27
Bullshit.
1:29:28
We are defensive.
1:29:29
We're not making any troubles.
1:29:31
Tell that to the Libyans.
1:29:32
We're not making trouble.
1:29:34
But don't dare to attack us.
1:29:35
You see why they attacked Libya?
1:29:38
Why do you ask these questions every time
1:29:40
he's saying that we're defensive?
1:29:43
Just shut up.
1:29:44
Lethality.
1:29:45
Lethality of NATO showing that, yes, we will
1:29:47
never be an offensive organization.
1:29:49
We are a defensive organization, but don't dare
1:29:52
to attack us.
1:29:53
Don't you dare to attack us.
1:29:55
Because you will not see the light of
1:29:57
day again.
1:29:57
And I hope that will be.
1:30:00
This guy is the biggest warmonger in the
1:30:03
universe.
1:30:04
Don't you dare attack us.
1:30:06
The real outcome of the Hague summit, a
1:30:09
splash.
1:30:09
A splash.
1:30:10
Showing that reinvigorated alliance standing together.
1:30:15
One for all, all for one.
1:30:17
We are the three musketeers.
1:30:19
One for all, all for one.
1:30:21
But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,
1:30:24
don't.
1:30:25
This is not, we're not doing this because
1:30:27
USA wants it.
1:30:29
This is not about USA.
1:30:31
Except you don't want to cross USA.
1:30:34
First of all, by understanding that we do
1:30:36
not do this because the Americans want us
1:30:38
to do it, but because we need to
1:30:39
do it because of Russia.
1:30:41
We don't do it because the Americans.
1:30:43
The Americans.
1:30:44
Remember, I will change my story at the
1:30:47
end of this clip, but it's not because
1:30:49
Americans want it.
1:30:50
And the threat.
1:30:51
By the way, by spending more, you will
1:30:53
also have a fairer burden sharing with the
1:30:56
US because the US rightly is irritated about
1:30:59
the fact that in Europe, we have collected
1:31:02
the peace dividend.
1:31:04
And I myself as prime minister was part
1:31:05
of that.
1:31:06
And that was wrong.
1:31:08
Luckily, the Netherlands is now spending over 2%.
1:31:10
Luckily.
1:31:12
But collectively, we have collected the peace dividend.
1:31:15
This was not, and rightly the US is
1:31:17
irritated.
1:31:18
So by spending more because of the Russian
1:31:19
threat, the effect of that is also that
1:31:22
you have a fairish burden sharing with the
1:31:24
United States.
1:31:25
But it's not, it's not because America wants
1:31:27
this.
1:31:28
Just so you know, it's not about that.
1:31:31
And there are a few countries not yet
1:31:33
at 2%.
1:31:34
I would love to say that since I
1:31:35
came in on the 1st of October, things
1:31:37
started to change.
1:31:38
That was not true.
1:31:40
But there happened something on the 20th of
1:31:42
January in the US.
1:31:44
And since then, look what's happened.
1:31:46
It's amazing.
1:31:46
It's not about America, what America wants for
1:31:48
Trump, who became president on January 20th, but
1:31:51
it's amazing.
1:31:52
The Belgians have been saying, we want to
1:31:54
get to 2% by the summer.
1:31:56
Spain now is saying they want to get
1:31:57
to 2% this summer.
1:31:59
We know that Portugal, Italy, they all have
1:32:01
these debates now.
1:32:02
And I tell them that, well, now I
1:32:04
am calling you to ask you to deliver
1:32:06
the 2% by the summer so that
1:32:08
collectively we can move considerably north of the
1:32:12
2% because we have to spend much,
1:32:14
much more than 2%.
1:32:15
But this is not about America.
1:32:17
This is not because America wants it.
1:32:19
But now I'm calling you, but you might
1:32:21
get a very patient man from Washington on
1:32:27
the line if you don't listen to me.
1:32:29
And I would love to listen to those
1:32:31
phone calls, but let's hope they're not necessary.
1:32:34
At this moment, I must say that all
1:32:36
these non-2%ers are having genuine debates
1:32:39
to move to the 2% before summer.
1:32:41
So all the non-2%ers, it's not
1:32:44
about America, but if you don't step up,
1:32:47
you might get a call from Washington and
1:32:49
you don't want to get that call.
1:32:50
That's exactly what he said.
1:32:52
That's exactly what he said.
1:32:54
And so now we have to make sure
1:32:57
that we all understand that this is long
1:33:01
-term.
1:33:03
This is not just a Ukraine issue.
1:33:06
We are never, ever, I don't care what
1:33:09
kind of peace deal is made, it's never
1:33:11
gonna end.
1:33:12
It's the result of 12 hours of behind
1:33:14
closed doors talk.
1:33:15
Oh, I'm sorry, wrong one.
1:33:18
Here it is, this is the one.
1:33:19
Well, there will be no normalization of relations
1:33:22
with Russia when the war is over.
1:33:23
That will not happen.
1:33:25
That will take decades because there is a
1:33:28
total lack of confidence.
1:33:30
The threat is still there.
1:33:31
As I said in my speech, even if
1:33:33
the war comes to a conclusion, the Russian
1:33:35
threat is still there.
1:33:36
They are building a war economy.
1:33:39
They are spending so much money on defense.
1:33:42
It's a war economy.
1:33:43
They are producing in three months an ammunition
1:33:45
what the whole of the alliance is producing
1:33:47
in a year.
1:33:48
We are ramping up our ammunition production.
1:33:51
Luckily, we have to.
1:33:51
This is bulk.
1:33:52
Ramping it up.
1:33:53
So there's no way that we can normalize
1:33:56
relations with Russia after the war is over.
1:33:59
I hope in many decades from now and
1:34:02
post-Putin that there might be some, but
1:34:05
I mean, I'm not optimistic.
1:34:07
Post-Putin, this is the most outrageous thing
1:34:12
you can say.
1:34:13
Well, even if we have a total truce
1:34:15
there in Ukraine, nothing's gonna normalize with Russia.
1:34:19
Ever.
1:34:20
Until, no, post-Putin, post-Putin, post-Putin.
1:34:24
And guess what Zelensky said?
1:34:27
Ukrainian President Zelensky has claimed that his Russian
1:34:30
counterpart Putin will die soon.
1:34:33
The remarks came amid widespread speculation about the
1:34:36
Russian president's health.
1:34:37
Russia has strongly rejected all speculations and maintained
1:34:40
the Russian leader is fully fit.
1:34:43
The Ukrainian leader made the bold claim while
1:34:46
speaking to French journalists in a televised interview
1:34:49
after meeting French President Emmanuel Macron in Paris.
1:34:53
Zelensky said Putin hopes to remain in power
1:34:56
until his death and his ambitions are not
1:34:59
limited to Ukraine.
1:35:00
He added that the Russian leader's death would
1:35:03
bring an end to the war between the
1:35:05
two nations.
1:35:06
There have been continued speculations over Putin's deteriorating
1:35:09
health.
1:35:10
Videos have surfaced of the Russian leader with
1:35:12
puffy face and making jerky movements.
1:35:15
He got puffy face and making jerky.
1:35:18
He's gonna die.
1:35:19
He's got puffy face.
1:35:20
Videos have surfaced of the Russian leader with
1:35:22
puffy face and making jerky movements with his
1:35:26
limbs.
1:35:26
Some videos also showed Putin coughing continuously.
1:35:30
Just last week, reports suggested that Putin suffered
1:35:32
a mini stroke with video showing his legs
1:35:35
shaking uncontrollably.
1:35:37
This was during a conference and interview and
1:35:40
other times.
1:35:42
So.
1:35:44
And if a dipshit report was that.
1:35:48
Well, it's.
1:35:48
And he has restless leg syndrome, I guess.
1:35:51
So he said it in Ukrainian and all
1:35:54
the clips.
1:35:55
France 24, France Vincatra, does not have any
1:35:59
report of this even though he said it
1:36:00
in France.
1:36:01
So I found that to be somewhat odd.
1:36:04
But all the reports had, the mix was
1:36:07
no good.
1:36:07
It was Zelensky speaking in Ukrainian and the
1:36:10
English translation is equally loud, is very hard
1:36:13
to understand.
1:36:14
But he says, that's what he says.
1:36:16
Oh, Putin's gonna die soon anyway.
1:36:18
And then it will all end.
1:36:20
Which is, in my mind, a veiled threat.
1:36:23
Oh, he's gonna die, don't worry.
1:36:25
And if he dies, no matter how he
1:36:27
dies, then it's all gonna be over.
1:36:31
How does that work?
1:36:33
Well, because it's the same thing.
1:36:35
That's why they wanted regime change.
1:36:36
That's why the CIA said, hey, if you're
1:36:39
living in Russia and you want to become
1:36:40
a spook, let us know.
1:36:42
Here's our email address.
1:36:45
Yeah, they've always, it's only a Putin.
1:36:47
You never hear the Russian citizens are no
1:36:51
good.
1:36:51
Never hear that.
1:36:53
It's only Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin,
1:36:55
Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin.
1:36:58
It's the only baddie they have is Putin.
1:37:01
And now, oh, the unthinkable has happened.
1:37:04
We seem to be making headway with a
1:37:07
peace deal.
1:37:07
Oh, no.
1:37:08
It's the result of 12 hours of behind
1:37:11
closed doors talks in a series of meetings
1:37:14
over three days in Riyadh.
1:37:16
Two statements from the White House outlining separate
1:37:18
agreements with Ukraine and Russia to ensure safe
1:37:21
navigation in the Black Sea and to implement
1:37:24
a ban on attacks by the two countries
1:37:26
on each other's energy facilities.
1:37:28
Both sides agreed that third parties could oversee
1:37:31
the truce.
1:37:32
Separately, the United States also agreed that it
1:37:35
would help restore Russia's access to the world
1:37:37
market for agricultural and fertilizer exports, an incentive
1:37:41
to Moscow blasted by Volodymyr Zelensky.
1:37:44
We believe that this is a weakening of
1:37:46
the position and a weakening of sanctions in
1:37:49
our opinion.
1:37:50
We do not yet know the details of
1:37:51
this item and we were not present at
1:37:54
this meeting, but this was not on our
1:37:56
agenda.
1:37:57
Nonetheless, Kyiv said it would uphold its end
1:37:59
of the agreement while calling for more talks
1:38:02
to settle the details.
1:38:03
The Kremlin, meanwhile, declared that the agreement could
1:38:05
only come into force after the lifting of
1:38:08
restrictions on its agricultural exports.
1:38:10
Earlier, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Moscow
1:38:13
didn't trust the Ukrainian president to uphold a
1:38:16
ceasefire.
1:38:17
We need clear guarantees.
1:38:19
These guarantees can only be the result of
1:38:21
an order by Washington to Zelensky.
1:38:23
The limited truce on energy and sea came
1:38:26
about after Vladimir Putin responded to the originally
1:38:29
proposed full 30-day ceasefire with a long
1:38:32
list of conditions.
1:38:34
The White House said Tuesday it would continue
1:38:36
facilitating talks on both sides in a bid
1:38:38
towards achieving a sustainable peace.
1:38:41
Not quite the end the war in 24
1:38:43
hours that we were promised.
1:38:45
I'm sorry, that was...
1:38:48
Sarcastic.
1:38:49
Sarcastic, it was being sarcastic.
1:38:52
So they're starting very, very slowly.
1:38:55
We need to make peace profitable again.
1:38:58
I don't know how to do it.
1:38:59
Let's bring these clips in.
1:39:00
This is Trump versus the EU on NPR.
1:39:03
As we've reported before on this show, US
1:39:05
administrations, at least as far back as George
1:39:08
W.
1:39:08
Bush's, have been pushing European nations to increase
1:39:11
their defense spending.
1:39:12
But throughout, the US has remained committed to
1:39:15
the principle of NATO's Article 5, which says
1:39:19
that an attack against one ally is considered
1:39:21
as an attack against all allies.
1:39:24
That commitment appears to have ended with President
1:39:27
Trump.
1:39:28
I think it's common sense, right?
1:39:30
If they don't pay, I'm not going to
1:39:31
defend them.
1:39:32
No, I'm not going to defend them.
1:39:34
It's common sense.
1:39:36
You don't pay, we don't defend you.
1:39:39
NATO schmato is no good.
1:39:42
Yeah, they go on with this one.
1:39:44
Now, for the record, Article 5 of NATO
1:39:46
has only ever been invoked once.
1:39:48
And it was by the United States.
1:39:51
Bronislav Slonchev teaches military and war studies at
1:39:54
the University of California, San Diego.
1:39:56
When Article 5 was invoked after 9-11,
1:39:58
the Europeans responded.
1:39:59
Canadians, they went and they died.
1:40:01
The British went and they died.
1:40:03
Everybody responded.
1:40:04
Wait a minute, didn't the French say that
1:40:06
they didn't like it?
1:40:07
Didn't we have Freedom Fries for that whole
1:40:09
reason?
1:40:12
It was something of, what was the Freedom
1:40:14
Fries derived from?
1:40:15
It had something to do with it.
1:40:17
Yeah, I thought the French were like, no,
1:40:18
no, no, we're not going to do that.
1:40:21
I'll look it up.
1:40:22
That includes the French, by the way, who
1:40:24
supported the US by sending troops to Afghanistan,
1:40:27
89 of whom died and more than 700
1:40:30
of whom were wounded.
1:40:31
The Iraq War.
1:40:32
Yeah, yeah.
1:40:33
Public scorn for these sacrifices is just one
1:40:36
barb on the arrowhead.
1:40:37
Public scorn.
1:40:38
That has pierced the heart of the European
1:40:39
-American relationship and shredded trust between them.
1:40:42
And it's galvanized European governments to make themselves
1:40:45
independent of the US when it comes to
1:40:47
their defense.
1:40:49
But Fenella McGurdy says Europe was already ramping
1:40:52
up its defense spending long before Trump came
1:40:54
into office.
1:40:55
Fenella is a senior fellow for defense economics
1:40:57
at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in
1:41:00
London.
1:41:00
In 2024, we saw record defense spending growth
1:41:04
already, 11.7% in real terms.
1:41:08
And that was itself an increase, so an
1:41:10
acceleration from the level of growth we saw
1:41:12
in 2023, which reached 5.2%. And that
1:41:16
was an acceleration from the growth the year
1:41:18
before.
1:41:18
The EU plan announced last week will likely
1:41:21
break new records.
1:41:23
It advocates a massive ramp-up of defense
1:41:25
industrial production capacity and it unlocks a combined
1:41:28
$866 billion in military spending over four years.
1:41:33
That's a bite what the US spends in
1:41:35
a single year on defense.
1:41:36
So Branislav says it's not even close to
1:41:39
a conversion to a war economy, but it
1:41:41
could still be good medicine for Europe.
1:41:44
You know, there's a funny phenomenon I've noticed.
1:41:49
It goes basically like this.
1:41:52
Well, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, but we're gonna
1:41:54
do that anyway.
1:41:56
Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
1:41:58
We're gonna do that anyway, so it's not
1:41:59
important.
1:42:00
This is the same phenomenon you see with
1:42:02
the NPR thing, and there's other examples I've
1:42:05
had on the show.
1:42:05
They say, well, it's only 1%, it doesn't,
1:42:09
you know.
1:42:09
Oh, they're taking all our money away, but
1:42:11
it's only 1%.
1:42:13
Yeah, yeah, it's only 1%, but still.
1:42:17
Or the park services, like, oh, the government
1:42:21
is making a great investment, the $10 billion
1:42:23
on national parks generates $70 billion.
1:42:27
What do you need the 10 for?
1:42:31
I found this, on and on, this idea,
1:42:34
you complain about something, but then back it
1:42:36
off and say, well, it's not important.
1:42:38
Just doesn't make any sense.
1:42:39
Now, further on, this, by the way, this
1:42:41
goes on forever.
1:42:42
The third clip is deep into the conversation
1:42:45
near the end.
1:42:46
I just thought I'd put, drop that in.
1:42:48
Everything is changing right now.
1:42:49
This current war, things have evolved dramatically.
1:42:52
Initially, for instance, everybody was talking artillery and
1:42:54
tanks.
1:42:55
That was a big thing.
1:42:56
Then the tanks turned out not to be
1:42:58
super effective.
1:42:59
And now everything is drones and the missiles,
1:43:02
right?
1:43:02
And everything then is- Why is he
1:43:04
laughing about that?
1:43:05
Is it because they're so cheap?
1:43:08
It's like, it's drones.
1:43:09
Now everything is drones and the missiles, right?
1:43:13
And why is that funny?
1:43:15
That is an interesting, I didn't notice this,
1:43:18
but you're right.
1:43:19
Why is it?
1:43:19
It's a laugh tale, but why?
1:43:21
Drones.
1:43:22
Drones, I don't know.
1:43:23
Oh, missiles.
1:43:25
Everything is drones and the missiles, right?
1:43:29
And everything then is related to how you
1:43:31
can keep electronic warfare from the interference.
1:43:35
Do you have eyes in the sky?
1:43:36
So the satellites, so these are the kind
1:43:38
of capabilities we should not be building to
1:43:40
fight.
1:43:41
In other words, the whole thing is a
1:43:43
farce.
1:43:43
I think that's why he's laughing.
1:43:45
War has become a farce.
1:43:46
It's like, it's just, it's like a, it's
1:43:49
like a video game.
1:43:49
Oh, we just push this.
1:43:50
We just push that.
1:43:51
We got eye in the sky.
1:43:52
We've got drones.
1:43:53
We got missiles.
1:43:54
It's not, it's not really like fighting in
1:43:57
the trenches anymore.
1:43:58
The last three wars we should be building
1:44:00
to fight the next one.
1:44:02
Europe can do all sorts of things to
1:44:04
move quickly or at least more quickly than
1:44:05
it usually does.
1:44:06
It can convert old factories to make arms
1:44:09
and reconfigure existing ones to become dual use
1:44:11
civilian and military production hubs.
1:44:13
It can develop supply relationships with other arms
1:44:16
providers like South Korea or Israel.
1:44:18
But whatever it does, it'll take time, Fenella
1:44:21
says.
1:44:22
And because of that, the US will likely
1:44:24
remain part of the European defense equation for
1:44:26
the foreseeable future.
1:44:27
It takes decades for a lot of these
1:44:30
programs.
1:44:32
So I think that there's some level of
1:44:33
dependence will always be there, certainly in things
1:44:35
like heavy lift transport and things like that,
1:44:38
because those capabilities do take time to develop.
1:44:41
And I think Europe could get there, but
1:44:43
not in perhaps in the timeframe it needs.
1:44:45
So there's always going to be that, that
1:44:48
some level of reliance on the US and
1:44:50
hopefully some partnerships going forward, which ultimately is
1:44:53
good for US defense industry as well.
1:44:56
Yeah, Eric Schmidt is a smart guy, man.
1:44:59
I remember we played clip of him all
1:45:01
about drones, drones is the new warfare, this
1:45:05
is where it's going.
1:45:06
And there it is.
1:45:08
There it is.
1:45:09
It's all cheap technology to blow people up.
1:45:15
By the way, food has been, renaming food
1:45:18
in time of war is not new.
1:45:20
So Freedom Fries was indeed, changed the name
1:45:24
of French fries in 2003, France's opposition to
1:45:30
invading Iraq, which in hindsight, of course they
1:45:32
were correct.
1:45:33
Yeah.
1:45:35
So we punished them.
1:45:37
Yeah, we're going to show you Frenchies.
1:45:40
World War I, sauerkraut was renamed in America
1:45:44
to Liberty Cabbage.
1:45:49
And Frankfurters and hot dogs were changed to
1:45:52
Liberty Dog.
1:45:54
Liberty Dog.
1:45:55
We need to, we need a, we need
1:45:57
an anti-Russian kind of thing, but the
1:45:59
thing is Russia.
1:46:00
We don't need Russian foods.
1:46:02
No, because it's...
1:46:02
We're not in Russia.
1:46:03
Well, vodka.
1:46:04
Borscht.
1:46:04
We could change vodka.
1:46:05
Vodka, you could change that to what would
1:46:07
that be?
1:46:07
Freedom juice, freedom juice.
1:46:09
Freedom juice.
1:46:12
I'm writing it down.
1:46:14
Yeah.
1:46:15
Freedom juice.
1:46:15
What else?
1:46:16
Liberty Sap.
1:46:18
I mean, there's all kinds of things.
1:46:19
Liberty Sap.
1:46:23
Hey man, hit me with some...
1:46:25
Liberty Sap, neat.
1:46:27
Okay, nice.
1:46:30
Oh man, the people are crazy.
1:46:33
The world has gone nuts.
1:46:35
It's gone nuts, I tell you.
1:46:36
The world has gone nuts.
1:46:38
Well, I do have a couple of...
1:46:41
I get that...
1:46:43
These are clips I want to get out
1:46:44
of the way.
1:46:45
This is the D-E-I-D-O
1:46:47
-A clips.
1:46:48
There's only two of them.
1:46:49
Okay.
1:46:51
All right.
1:46:52
President Trump has called for an end to...
1:46:53
Oh, you got to warn me.
1:46:55
It's your buddy.
1:46:55
You got to warn me about that kind
1:46:57
of stuff.
1:46:57
You can't just launch into shush.
1:47:00
Suffer and succotash.
1:47:02
I'm Scott.
1:47:07
Simon.
1:47:08
President Trump has called for an end to
1:47:09
what he calls illegal diversity, equity, and inclusion
1:47:12
efforts.
1:47:13
So he has revoked a 1965 executive order
1:47:16
that has guided generations of federal contractors on
1:47:19
how to comply with non-discrimination laws.
1:47:23
As NPR's Andrea Hsu reports, that's leaving federal
1:47:25
contractors who employ one in five workers in
1:47:29
the U.S. scrambling.
1:47:31
The end of Lyndon B.
1:47:32
Johnson's executive order 11246 has kept Matt Camardella
1:47:36
busy.
1:47:37
His whole practice at the law firm Jackson
1:47:39
Lewis is helping companies that do business with
1:47:42
the government comply with that order and with
1:47:44
other federal laws.
1:47:46
Since Trump's return, he's been fielding questions nonstop.
1:47:49
This is pretty much all I've been doing
1:47:51
for the last six weeks.
1:47:53
The 1965 executive order required most federal contractors
1:47:56
to take steps to identify and address barriers
1:48:00
to employment for anyone, but especially women and
1:48:03
people of color.
1:48:04
Camardella says his clients took those responsibilities seriously.
1:48:08
Every year, they'd analyze their hiring and pay
1:48:11
practices to try to figure out, for example,
1:48:13
if women were getting paid less than men.
1:48:16
They'd plan out how to recruit a diverse
1:48:17
workforce so that their hires reflected the pool
1:48:20
of available workers around them.
1:48:22
There was real risk in not doing this
1:48:26
properly or at all for that matter.
1:48:29
But now things have gotten complicated.
1:48:32
Not only has Trump revoked Johnson's executive order
1:48:35
and halted its enforcement, the president has also
1:48:38
issued his own executive order requiring contractors to
1:48:41
certify that they're not engaging in illegal DEI.
1:48:46
Yeah, well, you know.
1:48:48
I didn't realize this went back to Lyndon
1:48:50
Johnson.
1:48:53
No, I didn't know that either.
1:48:56
But it doesn't surprise me, strangely enough.
1:49:00
But it really, I mean, the thing that
1:49:02
people forget about DEI is it was a
1:49:04
part of ESG.
1:49:06
And the reason why companies all got on
1:49:09
board with it is because they had a
1:49:12
score.
1:49:13
And it was, I think it was the
1:49:15
BlackRock guys, didn't they come up with some
1:49:18
board and this board determined?
1:49:20
Larry Fink.
1:49:21
Yes, the Finkelmeister.
1:49:23
And they had a score system.
1:49:25
And depending on your environmental, social and governance
1:49:29
score, you became less or more investable by
1:49:33
pension funds mainly.
1:49:35
That's why everyone got, it was a real,
1:49:38
real evil thing they did.
1:49:40
Yeah, but they pulled the plug on it
1:49:42
finally.
1:49:42
Oh, yes, they did.
1:49:44
A court has blocked- Mainly because the
1:49:45
investments were bad.
1:49:46
Yeah.
1:49:47
The high scoring ESG guys weren't good companies.
1:49:50
Lose your pants.
1:49:52
A court has blocked that part of Trump's
1:49:53
order for now.
1:49:55
Still, Camerodella says the problem is.
1:49:57
Nobody really understands what illegal DEI means.
1:50:01
He says nothing about federal anti-discrimination law
1:50:04
has changed.
1:50:05
In fact, he believes there's nothing wrong with
1:50:07
a company carrying on with what it had
1:50:09
been doing, looking at its pay practices or
1:50:12
its hiring or its outreach to ensure it's
1:50:14
complying with the law.
1:50:15
However, there may be a perception that somehow
1:50:18
that smacks of illegal DEI.
1:50:22
I'm very concerned.
1:50:23
Jenny Yang headed a labor department office that
1:50:26
enforced the 1965 executive order under President Biden.
1:50:30
That office investigated employers and all kinds of
1:50:32
industries, tech, manufacturing, construction.
1:50:36
In 2020, Princeton University agreed to pay more
1:50:38
than a million dollars in back wages and
1:50:41
salary adjustments to about a hundred female professors
1:50:44
after the government found pay disparities.
1:50:46
The university denied it had discriminated against women,
1:50:50
but agreed to look more closely at its
1:50:51
pay practices.
1:50:53
Jenny Yang says the Office of Federal Contractor
1:50:55
Compliance Programs, or OFCCP, can claim many successes.
1:50:58
So in the last decade, OFCCP recovered, for
1:51:02
example, over a hundred million dollars for women
1:51:05
who were victims of discrimination.
1:51:07
Now under Trump, that office is expected to
1:51:09
be largely dismantled since its primary task is
1:51:12
gone.
1:51:13
The labor department has not confirmed when that's
1:51:15
going to happen.
1:51:16
Trump says ending illegal discrimination will allow people
1:51:20
to compete based on merit.
1:51:23
Speaking of DEI, the Canadian Transportation Board released
1:51:28
the data from the black box of the,
1:51:32
was it the Delta flight?
1:51:34
The- The one that flipped over?
1:51:35
The one that flipped over.
1:51:37
And so they have not yet released the
1:51:39
cockpit voice recorder, which will be important to
1:51:42
hear.
1:51:42
So just on the pilots, so indeed the
1:51:47
first officer, the female, the co-pilot, was
1:51:52
a female officer.
1:51:54
She had just about the, I mean, she
1:51:58
graduated from the right academy and it's all
1:52:01
within the rules.
1:52:02
Then you don't need 1500 hours, but 1000
1:52:04
hours.
1:52:06
So she racked up another almost 500.
1:52:08
She'd flown 56 hours that week and she
1:52:11
was piloting, which is very normal, particularly when
1:52:14
you note that the captain, the pilot, the
1:52:19
one actually in control of the entire flight,
1:52:22
not only a very high amount of hours,
1:52:25
but a trainer on simulators and real world.
1:52:29
So that is exactly the scenario you want.
1:52:31
You want pilots to be flying and learn
1:52:34
how to fly and learn all kinds of
1:52:36
scenarios when you have an instructor there next
1:52:38
to her in this case.
1:52:40
There was nothing wrong with the aircraft, but
1:52:44
there were wind gusts and this was a
1:52:47
very hard landing.
1:52:49
The landing gear is rated to a drop
1:52:52
onto the tarmac with a sink rate, I
1:52:54
think, 760 feet per minute.
1:52:57
They headed at over 1000.
1:52:59
So what happened was, as I said, is
1:53:02
the, and so the full weight came down
1:53:05
on the right rear landing gear.
1:53:08
It snapped off and that's why the wing
1:53:10
hit the ground and then they were very
1:53:11
fortunate how that all ended up.
1:53:13
So it's not necessarily a DEI issue.
1:53:18
There's female pilots out there who yell at
1:53:20
me when I say this.
1:53:22
This could have happened to any pilot, but
1:53:24
really the male pilot in command was in
1:53:27
charge.
1:53:28
He should have had his hands on the
1:53:31
yoke.
1:53:32
He should have been following through the whole
1:53:34
time.
1:53:34
So we'll see exactly what was said, but
1:53:37
I think this could have happened to anybody,
1:53:39
but it wasn't good.
1:53:41
It was clearly human error.
1:53:44
And that's your update from the air.
1:53:47
BBC World Service aviation update.
1:53:51
Speaking of illegal DEI, there's another term that
1:53:57
popped up in regards to the GLP-1,
1:54:01
or as we say, I went to my,
1:54:05
I got my hair cut in Austin the
1:54:06
other day, what is it, Gluta, what's the
1:54:11
name of the compound?
1:54:15
Gluta...
1:54:16
Glutamine, glutamine, glutamine.
1:54:17
No, it's not glutamine.
1:54:19
Glutatide, gluty, gluty, gluty-tooty.
1:54:23
Gluty-tooty, no, she pronounced it in a
1:54:26
French way and it sounded kind of good.
1:54:27
Oh, semi-glutidase, semi-decre, semi-glutidase.
1:54:33
Because now every single hair salon hands out
1:54:37
little flyers, little cards for the injection nurse,
1:54:41
which we learned just a few weeks ago.
1:54:43
And you get your Botox, you get your
1:54:45
lip fillers and you get your GLP-1,
1:54:48
your semi-glutidase.
1:54:49
Kind of a place are you going to?
1:54:53
Every place has that now, by the way.
1:54:56
No, they don't.
1:54:57
Yes, yes, all- You're going to some
1:54:59
sort of a screwball place, some sort of
1:55:01
a place with the upper crust of Dallas
1:55:05
or whatever, or Austin.
1:55:06
Okay, so first of all, it's a women's
1:55:09
hair salon mainly.
1:55:10
Well, that would make sense.
1:55:12
Although the former New York banker also goes
1:55:15
there.
1:55:15
I've been going to her for 15 years.
1:55:17
So when we left Austin, I was not
1:55:19
going to give up on my hair relationship.
1:55:21
But it's good because she is definitely libtard
1:55:28
adjacent, but she has no problem with my
1:55:32
views.
1:55:32
And we always have a really nice conversation
1:55:34
and she always, because she has no one
1:55:35
to talk to about how crazy people, no
1:55:38
one in her life, not her partner, nobody.
1:55:40
She can't just say- She's a lesbian?
1:55:42
No, no, she's not a lesbian.
1:55:44
She's a deadhead though.
1:55:47
She goes to Vegas to sit in the
1:55:49
sphere three nights in a row and she
1:55:51
loved John Mayer.
1:55:54
But she has no one in her life
1:55:56
where she can- How old is this
1:55:57
woman?
1:55:58
She is 47, I think, 47.
1:56:01
47?
1:56:02
Yes.
1:56:04
And what does that have to do with
1:56:05
anything?
1:56:06
I just want to know who would go
1:56:08
to Vegas and sit in the sphere for
1:56:10
three days unless they were a young stoner.
1:56:13
Thousands and thousands of people.
1:56:16
Young stoners.
1:56:17
Yes.
1:56:18
And so she, and Vegas is not legal
1:56:20
to be stoned everywhere.
1:56:21
Walk around, the whole place smells like weed.
1:56:23
You can drink though in the street.
1:56:25
Yes.
1:56:25
You can smoke weed on the street too.
1:56:27
But now the hotels, the casinos, everything smells
1:56:30
of weed.
1:56:31
Anyway, it's horrible.
1:56:33
It's nasty.
1:56:35
To get to the point of the story.
1:56:37
So she can't just say, oh, I enjoyed
1:56:39
watching Trump on Rogan.
1:56:40
She can't say that to anybody in her
1:56:42
world, in Austin.
1:56:44
Despite the fact that Rogan is in Austin,
1:56:47
is a local.
1:56:48
Yeah.
1:56:48
No, that is not done.
1:56:51
And she said that she had a client
1:56:53
the other day and these are just, yeah,
1:56:56
maybe upper crust.
1:56:58
I'm not sure, but Austin, white Austin women.
1:57:02
And the topic of Tesla came up and
1:57:06
Elon.
1:57:06
She's like, eh, well, you know.
1:57:08
And her customer said, you know, he's a
1:57:12
Nazi, right?
1:57:15
And my girl was like, no, he is
1:57:20
a, so these people, these are educated people,
1:57:24
actually believe he is a Nazi.
1:57:26
Because- Like a literal Nazi.
1:57:28
A literal, not just like a name you
1:57:30
call someone.
1:57:31
No, he's a Nazi.
1:57:33
He is an actual Nazi.
1:57:36
Exactly.
1:57:38
Anyway, back to the, it was a fun
1:57:41
trip.
1:57:42
It's worth the drive, trust me.
1:57:44
Back to this illegal term when it comes
1:57:48
to the semi-glutides.
1:57:49
Listen to this.
1:57:50
A new report reveals illegal ingredients in knockoff
1:57:53
weight loss drugs that are flooding into the
1:57:56
United States.
1:57:57
Shabbir Imber Shaftar is the executive director of
1:58:00
the Partnership for Safe Medicines and the coauthor
1:58:03
of this new report.
1:58:04
He's joining me now live.
1:58:05
Hello to you.
1:58:06
So, illegal ingredients.
1:58:09
Now, when you hear that, what is the
1:58:10
first thing you think?
1:58:17
Apparently nothing.
1:58:20
You walked away.
1:58:21
You walked away during my report.
1:58:24
Are you peeing?
1:58:26
You just like, oh.
1:58:26
I always forget that I have speakers.
1:58:28
Do you have something else to do?
1:58:30
Yeah, the phone was ringing off the hook.
1:58:32
Well, we've been doing this show for over
1:58:35
17 years.
1:58:36
Take it off the hook already.
1:58:38
And I listened to the clip and the
1:58:40
clip was going on and on.
1:58:41
And I said, well, this clip is gonna
1:58:43
go on long enough that I can walk
1:58:45
over to the phone and take it off
1:58:46
the hook and you can hear it beeping
1:58:47
back there.
1:58:48
Yes.
1:58:48
And then you come on with a question
1:58:50
out of the blue.
1:58:51
Oh, no.
1:58:52
I thought we were doing a show, but
1:58:54
oh, no.
1:58:55
No.
1:58:56
Okay, did you understand the question?
1:58:58
Would you like me to restart the clip
1:58:59
and do the question again and we can
1:59:01
end it out?
1:59:01
Well, I heard the clip.
1:59:02
I could hear the clip.
1:59:03
The question was vague.
1:59:06
I'll play the clip again It was about,
1:59:08
no, it was about what ingredients that are
1:59:11
illegal.
1:59:12
Yeah.
1:59:13
You said what ingredients were illegal?
1:59:16
No, I said, when someone says an ingredient
1:59:18
is illegal, what is the, this is a
1:59:20
news report.
1:59:21
What do you think that means?
1:59:25
And that, what you just said is different
1:59:27
than what I just said that you contradicted
1:59:28
and said I didn't know what you were
1:59:30
talking about.
1:59:30
Answer the question, go.
1:59:32
What do I think that?
1:59:35
Mark Levin.
1:59:36
And so, go.
1:59:39
The, what do I think it means?
1:59:42
It means that something's toxic.
1:59:43
Yes, that's my point.
1:59:46
Thank you for answering the question correctly.
1:59:47
You go on to our second round.
1:59:49
Of this new report, he's joining me now
1:59:51
live.
1:59:52
Hello to you.
1:59:52
Hello, and thank you for covering this critical
1:59:54
safety information.
1:59:56
Clearly a PR guy.
1:59:59
He's not a doctor, he's a PR dude.
2:00:01
The information.
2:00:02
Of course, you know, let's start with what
2:00:04
you found and what your report reveals when
2:00:06
it comes to these illegal weight loss drugs
2:00:08
that are coming into the country.
2:00:10
Now all of a sudden, the whole thing
2:00:11
is illegal.
2:00:12
So in our report, we studied shipments of
2:00:15
semaglutide and trizepatide, the active ingredients in these
2:00:19
very popular weight loss medications that were coming
2:00:21
into the country and found that there were
2:00:23
shipments that were declared as being made in
2:00:25
factories that the FDA did not even know
2:00:28
of, were not registered with the FDA and
2:00:30
certainly never inspected.
2:00:32
And some of them were marked as for
2:00:34
compounding, which is a great concern of ours
2:00:36
because there's been some issues with compounding these
2:00:39
medicines and safety.
2:00:41
So it's not that they were toxic ingredients.
2:00:44
They came from labs that the FDA had
2:00:46
never heard of.
2:00:48
So this is a PR move because it's
2:00:51
just semaglutide, which is a non-patentable peptide.
2:00:56
But oh, they came from labs the FDA
2:00:59
had never, it's illegal, it's illegal.
2:01:01
Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into
2:01:05
the- Oh boy, she really punches that
2:01:06
one up.
2:01:06
Yeah, she punched it up, didn't she?
2:01:08
I like that.
2:01:09
Which is a great concern of ours because
2:01:11
there's been some issues with compounding these medicines
2:01:14
and safety.
2:01:15
Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into
2:01:19
the legal- It was in her script.
2:01:21
I think it was italicized in her script.
2:01:23
Like, and really punch this one up because
2:01:25
this guy's paying to be on.
2:01:28
Okay, so are these illegal ingredients getting into
2:01:31
the legal supply of these drugs?
2:01:33
Does that make sense?
2:01:35
It does make sense.
2:01:35
We don't actually know enough because FDA does
2:01:38
not publish where the shipments went.
2:01:40
We only know that there were nearly 200
2:01:42
shipments that came in that were made in
2:01:45
places that could never have been safe, even
2:01:47
if they'd been known to the FDA.
2:01:48
One was the JW Marriott.
2:01:50
There was another one at a health fitness
2:01:52
club and another one at a high school
2:01:54
in Canada.
2:01:54
And none of those could possibly even believably
2:01:57
be legal and legitimate or safe facilities.
2:02:00
And then he adds safe, legal or legitimate
2:02:02
or safe.
2:02:04
So the message is get your brand name
2:02:07
drugs, everybody.
2:02:07
Get them now because all of your Congress
2:02:10
people have been paid off by them, according
2:02:12
to RFK Jr. Today, over a hundred members
2:02:15
of Congress support a bill to fund Ozempic
2:02:18
with Medicare at $1,500 a month.
2:02:22
Most of these members have taken money from
2:02:25
the manufacturer of that product, a European company
2:02:30
called Novo Nordisk.
2:02:32
As everyone knows, once a drug is approved
2:02:34
for Medicare, it goes to Medicaid.
2:02:37
And there is a push to recommend Ozempic
2:02:39
for Americans as young as six over a
2:02:43
condition of obesity that is completely preventable and
2:02:47
barely even existed a hundred years ago.
2:02:49
Since 74% of Americans are obese, the
2:02:53
cost of all of them, if they take
2:02:55
their Ozempic prescription, will be $3 trillion a
2:02:59
year.
2:03:00
This is a drug that has made Novo
2:03:02
Nordisk the biggest company in Europe.
2:03:04
It's a Danish company, but the Danish government
2:03:07
does not recommend it.
2:03:08
It recommends a change in diet to treat
2:03:11
obesity and exercise.
2:03:14
Virtually Novo Nordisk's entire value is based upon
2:03:18
its projections of what Ozempic is going to
2:03:20
sell to Americans.
2:03:22
For half the price of Ozempic, we could
2:03:24
purchase regeneratively raised organic agriculture, organic food for
2:03:30
every American, three meals a day, and gym
2:03:33
membership for every obese American.
2:03:36
Why are members of Congress doing the bidding
2:03:38
of this Danish company instead of standing up
2:03:40
for American farmers and children?
2:03:43
Because Novo Nordisk is one of the largest
2:03:45
funders of medical research, the media and politicians
2:03:49
and the medical schools all go along with
2:03:52
them.
2:03:53
I like the calculation.
2:03:54
I think we should give away organic food,
2:03:56
three meals a day to everybody and a
2:03:58
gym membership.
2:03:59
I'm all for that.
2:04:01
Put it on Medicare.
2:04:02
Here's my Medicare card.
2:04:03
Give me my beef.
2:04:06
Talk is cheap, Bobby.
2:04:08
Get on the stick already.
2:04:10
This, you know, I think there was a
2:04:11
- Yeah, I actually did.
2:04:12
I'm with you on this.
2:04:14
Talk is cheap.
2:04:15
Get on the stick.
2:04:16
The main thing is let's get these advertisers
2:04:18
off the TV, for starters, which he's been
2:04:21
threatening to do now.
2:04:22
He came up in the conversation just recently,
2:04:25
but there's still no action.
2:04:28
Media, of course, won't be too happy about
2:04:30
it.
2:04:30
Why not?
2:04:32
That's where half their income comes from.
2:04:35
Oh, the media.
2:04:35
I thought you said Mimi.
2:04:36
I'm like, why would Mimi be upset with
2:04:38
that?
2:04:39
I have screaming Mimis in my brain ever
2:04:41
since you said it.
2:04:43
Screaming Mimi is a phrase.
2:04:45
Yes, I'd never heard it.
2:04:46
I've learned something.
2:04:47
There's been a rumor going around and people
2:04:50
like, I think, Zero Hedge even published it.
2:04:53
No, Unusual Whales, there you go.
2:04:56
There's a rumor that he's gonna do it.
2:04:59
He's gonna do it.
2:04:59
He's gonna- Gonna do it?
2:05:00
He's gonna do it.
2:05:01
He's gonna do it.
2:05:02
He's gonna ban Big Pharma advertising.
2:05:05
But I think that started with a parody
2:05:07
account on X, which a lot of people
2:05:12
- Well, he promised he's gonna do it.
2:05:15
Was it a true promise?
2:05:16
It's one of the three.
2:05:18
But let me just, okay, I wanna say
2:05:20
one.
2:05:23
What was it?
2:05:25
Advertising.
2:05:29
Let's listen to it again.
2:05:31
I'm not intimidated by the agencies.
2:05:33
I know how they work and I know
2:05:34
how to change them.
2:05:35
And most of those changes you do not
2:05:37
need Congress for.
2:05:40
The president, President Trump, could have done it,
2:05:42
had the power to do it himself.
2:05:43
And President Biden has the power to do
2:05:45
it himself.
2:05:45
And I'll give you an example.
2:05:47
With a stroke of the pen, you can
2:05:50
change back the rule that allows pharmaceutical advertisers
2:05:56
to do direct-to-consumer ads on television.
2:05:59
That's one of the big problems.
2:06:00
That's one of the reasons we have this
2:06:02
entrenched agency capture, not only of Congress, because
2:06:05
they control the airwaves, they control the evening
2:06:07
news.
2:06:08
75% of the revenues for those evening
2:06:11
news shows are Anderson Cooper is coming from
2:06:15
Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies.
2:06:17
And those companies are dictating content on those
2:06:20
shows and they dictate the official narratives.
2:06:24
And I have another clip here where he
2:06:26
talked about it on Rogan.
2:06:28
You know, ambitions have completely subsumed the regulatory
2:06:33
function of those agencies.
2:06:36
And that has to end.
2:06:38
You know, one of the things that we
2:06:39
need to do too is to get rid
2:06:40
of pharmaceutical advertising on television.
2:06:43
There's only two countries in the world that
2:06:45
allow it.
2:06:46
One is New Zealand.
2:06:48
The other is our country.
2:06:49
Everybody who is knowledgeable is against it.
2:06:53
And it not only has compromised public health.
2:06:58
We now, we take, largely because of that
2:06:59
advertising, we take three or four times the
2:07:03
amount of drugs as Europeans take.
2:07:05
And drugs are the number three killer in
2:07:07
our country.
2:07:08
Pharmaceutical drugs, the number three killer after cancer
2:07:11
and heart attacks.
2:07:13
They're not making us healthier.
2:07:14
We spend more on healthcare, 4.3 trillion
2:07:18
in the country and the world in terms
2:07:21
of our health outcomes.
2:07:22
They're insufferable.
2:07:23
All of these drugs, the pharmaceutical industry is
2:07:26
not making us safe.
2:07:28
And you know, we changed the rule in
2:07:30
1997.
2:07:31
Prior to 1997, like cigarettes and liquor, you
2:07:36
couldn't advertise on TV.
2:07:38
We changed those rules and FDA allowed the
2:07:42
pharmaceutical companies to advertise.
2:07:46
And they not only now have a platform
2:07:47
from which they can tell everybody, you're sick,
2:07:49
you need this, you need that.
2:07:51
But also they are able to dictate content
2:07:56
on television.
2:07:58
So they can dictate content on the local
2:08:01
news.
2:08:01
And on YouTube.
2:08:02
Yeah, of course.
2:08:05
Okay, well, get to it, Bobby.
2:08:09
Yeah, we're waiting.
2:08:10
Yeah, because then we can finally get some
2:08:12
big pharma ads on the podcast.
2:08:15
Oh, John, I just got my Ozempic.
2:08:18
I'm feeling great.
2:08:19
I'm down 8,000 pounds.
2:08:22
I heard a drug advertised on the radio
2:08:25
the other day, like Restora or something.
2:08:31
They have some of the more recent ones.
2:08:32
I would guess they're recording some of these
2:08:34
because they're pushing a lot of drugs onto
2:08:38
the TV that I've never heard of.
2:08:39
They're all new and they got the worst
2:08:41
side effects.
2:08:42
Yeah, well, sorry.
2:08:45
And the worst names, the names are really
2:08:47
bad and the side effects are just off,
2:08:49
they're wild.
2:08:50
Let me think what this was called.
2:08:54
It restores your muscle mass when you're on
2:08:57
GLP-1 drugs.
2:09:00
Wow, it's called steroids.
2:09:04
No, no, no, no, it's, what was it
2:09:08
called?
2:09:09
I think it was called, it was something
2:09:12
like Restora.
2:09:13
Do you like being thin, but your legs
2:09:16
are breaking?
2:09:17
We've got Restora.
2:09:19
Oh man, it's so bad.
2:09:21
And that was kind of my point when
2:09:23
I saw the card.
2:09:25
You know, it's like, get your Botox, get
2:09:26
your lip fillers.
2:09:29
So they gave you a, okay, this is
2:09:31
like a shaggy dog story.
2:09:33
I should have taken it with me.
2:09:34
We're back at, you didn't take the card
2:09:36
with you?
2:09:37
No.
2:09:38
It's got a cute one.
2:09:39
Oh, wait a minute, you go on and
2:09:40
on about how great it is to go
2:09:42
to the Austin.
2:09:42
It's always worth the price of admission.
2:09:44
You give me grief for just even suggesting
2:09:46
anything and then you leave the card?
2:09:48
I know, I feel very bad about that.
2:09:51
You should.
2:09:52
Inject, here, maybe I can find it.
2:09:55
Injection nurse, Austin.
2:09:57
This, but this, so they put it.
2:09:58
So there's an injection nurse at your hairdresser.
2:10:01
Well, she comes in and here, 63 nurse
2:10:05
injector jobs available in Austin, Texas.
2:10:08
This is, wow, $29 to $56 an hour
2:10:12
injection nurse jobs in Austin.
2:10:15
No hiring!
2:10:17
Wow.
2:10:17
It's called an aesthetic nurse.
2:10:20
So they come in in Botox gel or
2:10:23
give you some GLP-1 in the gut?
2:10:25
Yep, well, that's the upsell.
2:10:27
What else can they give you?
2:10:28
Shoot you up with steroids?
2:10:30
Or can they do anything else that's worthwhile?
2:10:32
Well, I think that's the upsell is the,
2:10:34
the nurse, the Austin nurse is an, this
2:10:37
is the Austin nurse, concierge injection specialist.
2:10:41
It's concierge.
2:10:43
Concierge, I love that.
2:10:44
Here we go.
2:10:45
The Austin nurse is an experienced injection specialist
2:10:49
committed to providing excellence in concierge injection administration
2:10:52
and training.
2:10:53
We provide help with fertility medications, anticoagulants, semiglutides
2:11:00
like Ozempic, blood glucose and insulin injectors and
2:11:04
more!
2:11:06
Yeah, so she'll come to your house.
2:11:09
She's got a blog.
2:11:10
Nice.
2:11:12
Yeah, but this is, this is, this is
2:11:14
the thing.
2:11:15
This is what people are doing.
2:11:16
Is they do, you've heard of Botox parties,
2:11:19
certainly.
2:11:21
No.
2:11:23
Yeah.
2:11:23
Women actually talk in MLs.
2:11:26
How many MLs did you get as in
2:11:29
milliliters?
2:11:31
Yeah, it'd be milliliter.
2:11:32
Yeah.
2:11:32
How many MLs?
2:11:33
Oh, I got 10 MLs.
2:11:34
What do you charge per ML?
2:11:36
Oh, it's only $79 per ML.
2:11:40
It's, it's sad.
2:11:42
All women are fake.
2:11:44
Not a single one is un-Botoxed.
2:11:48
I'm just guessing.
2:11:50
I think there's plenty of un-Botoxed gals
2:11:53
out there.
2:11:53
Yeah, do you, what do you think about
2:11:55
Pam Bondage?
2:11:56
Oh, she's definitely got Botox in the forehead.
2:11:59
Do you ever see her raise her eyebrows?
2:12:01
Nope.
2:12:01
Ever?
2:12:02
Nope.
2:12:02
Even when she said, top guy!
2:12:04
The eyebrows did not move.
2:12:06
You're the top guy.
2:12:07
Top guy.
2:12:09
Yeah, with that, I want to thank you
2:12:10
for your courage.
2:12:11
Say in the morning to you, the man
2:12:12
who put the C in shaking the chain.
2:12:14
Say hello to my friend on the other
2:12:15
end.
2:12:15
The one, the only, the legendary Mr. John
2:12:18
C.
2:12:19
DeMora!
2:12:23
Hi!
2:12:24
Hi!
2:12:24
Are there any more ship sequencing, graphing the
2:12:26
air subs in the water than the dames
2:12:27
and knights out there?
2:12:28
In the morning to the trolls in the
2:12:29
troll room, we had you for a second.
2:12:34
We may not make another four years, John.
2:12:37
Only $18.90 today.
2:12:40
That's average to me.
2:12:41
That, it's, you are, your numbers are off
2:12:43
because ever since you started giving me crap
2:12:45
about it, I started tracking it.
2:12:48
Our last- $18 is the classic and
2:12:50
$24 on Sunday.
2:12:51
No, the last 100 show average is $19
2:12:55
.04. Yeah, well, that's not the number I've
2:12:57
ever heard.
2:12:58
Yeah, but I'm looking at the numbers, baby.
2:13:01
I got the numbers.
2:13:01
Yeah, you got numbers, but they're not the
2:13:03
numbers you've been reading for the last 10
2:13:05
years.
2:13:06
Yes.
2:13:07
When you do the numbers, you can go
2:13:08
back and listen to the past shows.
2:13:10
It's $1,600, $1,700, $1,800, $1
2:13:13
,800, $1,800.
2:13:14
The number of times you've said $1,900
2:13:16
for a Thursday show is so low.
2:13:19
It's like maybe once every few months, but
2:13:21
somehow it's the average.
2:13:25
I call bogus.
2:13:28
You can call whatever you want.
2:13:31
Bogus.
2:13:33
Speaking of old shows, I have a throwback.
2:13:42
You want to do a special bonus clip?
2:13:45
Sure.
2:13:46
And this is, well, and then I have
2:13:47
to play this, it's two clips.
2:13:48
I have to play the setup clip first.
2:13:51
And the setup clip is something that we
2:13:53
all probably heard about.
2:13:55
A year from now, 23andMe will be, a
2:14:00
year from now, 23andMe will be growing and
2:14:02
thriving.
2:14:03
Five years from now, 23andMe will transform healthcare.
2:14:07
That was Anne Wojcicki, CEO of the genetic
2:14:10
testing company 23andMe.
2:14:11
She told us that back in November, and
2:14:13
now there's word that Anne has resigned and
2:14:15
23andMe has filed for bankruptcy protection.
2:14:18
Nancy Chin is here with what this means
2:14:19
for customers.
2:14:20
Nancy, when I woke up to this news
2:14:22
this morning, I was so sad and disappointed
2:14:24
to hear it because I know how hard
2:14:26
Anne worked and I know how much she
2:14:27
loves this company.
2:14:28
And there's a lot of customers who have
2:14:30
also loved it for a long time.
2:14:32
So big surprising news for many, but the
2:14:34
DNC won't tell you.
2:14:34
No one loved the company for a long
2:14:38
time.
2:14:39
I love 23andMe.
2:14:40
I love this company.
2:14:41
I use their services all the time, every
2:14:44
couple of weeks.
2:14:44
I love this company.
2:14:46
It makes no sense.
2:14:47
And there's a lot of customers who have
2:14:48
also loved it for a long time.
2:14:50
So big surprising news for many, but the
2:14:53
DNA testing company 23andMe has been facing serious
2:14:56
financial challenges for months now.
2:14:58
Last fall, it announced major corporate restructuring and
2:15:01
that's when concerns of what could happen to
2:15:03
users' data started surfacing.
2:15:06
On Friday, the Attorney General of California, where
2:15:08
23andMe's headquarter urged customers to request their information
2:15:13
be purged.
2:15:14
He says they should consider invoking their rights
2:15:17
and directing the company to delete their data
2:15:20
and destroy samples of their genetic material.
2:15:23
He said, if 23andMe were involved in a
2:15:25
bankruptcy, merger, or sale, personal data may also
2:15:28
be sold or transferred.
2:15:30
No, say it ain't so, really.
2:15:35
Episode 599 of the best podcast in the
2:15:37
universe, September 29th, 2013, is when we gave
2:15:40
our first of many warnings about this.
2:15:43
Here's what I want you to be cognizant
2:15:45
of.
2:15:46
When you sign up for 23andMe and you
2:15:49
get on your little social network and sharing
2:15:52
your little genetic defects, be wary as to
2:15:55
who else has that information.
2:15:57
And at some point in the future, Bill
2:15:59
Gates might be going, well, we really don't
2:16:02
want to.
2:16:02
Is that you?
2:16:03
Yes, that's me.
2:16:04
What a muddy mic.
2:16:05
This is dangerous.
2:16:06
Well, to be fair, it was 12 years
2:16:09
ago.
2:16:10
I didn't have the great mic that we
2:16:12
soon will be selling to everybody.
2:16:14
You walked right into that one, pal.
2:16:16
I did.
2:16:17
Why don't you just throw it?
2:16:18
Here, let me get a couple more softballs
2:16:20
here to toss you.
2:16:21
How about a book?
2:16:22
How about a book?
2:16:28
Or just the website, since we're doing a
2:16:30
donation segment.
2:16:31
Dvorak.org slash an A is not where
2:16:33
you want to go.
2:16:34
You want to go to- You can
2:16:35
go there.
2:16:35
It's got stuff you can check on.
2:16:37
It's got outdated links.
2:16:38
It's got the PayPal links don't work anymore.
2:16:41
Come on.
2:16:41
Okay, I'm fixing that site tomorrow.
2:16:47
If you don't fix it- I doubt
2:16:49
you, Thomas.
2:16:50
There you go.
2:16:51
I will stick my finger in the holes.
2:16:54
If it's not fixed, I'm not doing a
2:16:56
show.
2:16:56
That's it.
2:16:56
I'm done.
2:16:57
I'm boycotting the show.
2:16:58
If you don't fix the website.
2:17:02
Thank you, trolls who are hanging out in
2:17:03
the troll room.
2:17:06
Everyone's writing it down in their own red
2:17:08
books.
2:17:09
Yeah, there you go.
2:17:11
The trolls are listening at trollroom.io or
2:17:14
perhaps they are even on one of those
2:17:15
modern podcast apps, which are quite swanky indeed.
2:17:19
You can- Swanky.
2:17:20
They're very swanky.
2:17:22
People are like, wow, what app is that?
2:17:25
Oh, that's my modern podcast app, of course.
2:17:27
Oh, that's beautiful.
2:17:29
What does it do?
2:17:30
Well, it alerts me when my favorite shows
2:17:33
go live, including the Noah Jenner stream.
2:17:36
And you can listen to it live in
2:17:37
the app.
2:17:37
What?
2:17:38
You can do that in that app, in
2:17:40
a podcast app?
2:17:40
Oh yeah.
2:17:41
And when my favorite podcasts, when they publish
2:17:45
a show within 90 seconds, I know exactly
2:17:49
that it's there.
2:17:49
Boom, I get an alert.
2:17:50
What?
2:17:51
I'm on Apple and sometimes it takes hours.
2:17:54
That's why you want to go to podcastapps
2:17:56
.com, everybody.
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Value for value is how we continue to
2:18:05
somehow muddle through our last four years, or
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our four more years, I should say.
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People send me links like, you said that
2:18:13
when Trump won the first time.
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That's correct.
2:18:19
But now we mean it for real, four
2:18:21
more years.
2:18:24
And so we don't have ads, although people
2:18:28
have found some interesting loopholes in our system.
2:18:31
Yes, they have loopholes indeed.
2:18:33
Some really good loopholes.
2:18:34
People are like, hey man, I'm making a
2:18:37
killing on my business through that Noah Jenner
2:18:39
show.
2:18:39
It's fantastic.
2:18:40
Here's what you do.
2:18:41
You become an executive producer or sadly, chief
2:18:46
associate executive producers.
2:18:48
Chief associate, yeah, yeah.
2:18:53
The loophole is phenomenal.
2:18:56
I love it.
2:18:58
And now the way you can support the
2:19:00
show is multi-pronged.
2:19:02
You can support us with your time, your
2:19:04
talent, or your treasure.
2:19:06
And time and talent, people send clip ideas,
2:19:10
it always helps when they send time codes.
2:19:12
That's really highly appreciated.
2:19:15
People do organized meetups, they do jingles and
2:19:19
show mixes.
2:19:20
There's tons of stuff that people do.
2:19:22
Run servers for us everywhere.
2:19:23
Servers are running everywhere, like noagendaartgenerator.com, which
2:19:27
is where you can upload.
2:19:29
And it's had its ups and downs throughout
2:19:31
the years, but generally, I don't have to
2:19:34
maintain it.
2:19:36
I'd say it's a good deal for us.
2:19:38
We don't have to hire someone to maintain
2:19:39
it.
2:19:40
And then we have the artists themselves who
2:19:42
create this artwork for us.
2:19:44
And then we use that to draw attention
2:19:46
to the show.
2:19:47
It makes us look fresh every single time.
2:19:49
And we looked funky fresh with the artwork
2:19:52
for episode 1749.
2:19:54
We titled that show Gynocracy, or as I
2:19:57
like to say, Gynocracy.
2:19:58
And it was Sir Shug, AKA Faux Diddly,
2:20:01
who came in with the winning piece that
2:20:03
we picked.
2:20:04
The Flexiblize, live from Ursula Studios, which was,
2:20:09
it was a poppy piece.
2:20:12
You know, it was definitely related to the
2:20:15
show.
2:20:15
And it popped all kinds of, you know,
2:20:17
boys and girls dancing.
2:20:19
You know, there were Flexiblize.
2:20:19
Did you get the note from the woman
2:20:21
who used to be a jazzercise person and
2:20:23
sent the original art?
2:20:25
No.
2:20:26
Oh yeah, one of our producers had something
2:20:30
to do with the original art, which was
2:20:31
jazzercise.
2:20:34
Really?
2:20:34
It had the same dancers, only they were
2:20:36
kind of different, slightly different.
2:20:38
No way.
2:20:39
And the same basic logo.
2:20:40
This is where it came from.
2:20:41
Oh, so it's a ripoff.
2:20:44
It's a ripoff.
2:20:45
She thought it was a compliment.
2:20:47
Well, of course it's a compliment.
2:20:49
That's so cool.
2:20:50
But it was a ripoff, but I'm wondering
2:20:52
whether Sir Shug developed it by hand.
2:20:55
Because to do a ripoff, you have to
2:20:57
have the original, and then you develop a
2:20:58
kind of a copy of it, or AI
2:21:00
actually copied it.
2:21:02
Could be, could be, could be.
2:21:05
I got an AI story for you for
2:21:06
later.
2:21:07
Yeah, I saw you have AI clips.
2:21:08
I have a couple AI clips.
2:21:09
Good.
2:21:10
You do your clips, I'll bring the story.
2:21:12
I don't know about that.
2:21:13
Yeah, I do.
2:21:14
I'm in control.
2:21:15
Who's driving?
2:21:16
You're like the DEI hire on this show.
2:21:18
I'm the shotgun.
2:21:19
You're the DEI hire.
2:21:21
I'm the DEI guy.
2:21:23
Shut up.
2:21:25
No laughing.
2:21:26
No laughing.
2:21:29
So we appreciate that.
2:21:30
Of course, we use many of the pieces
2:21:32
of art for our chapter artwork, which Dreb
2:21:34
Scott diligently does for every single show.
2:21:37
We appreciate that very much.
2:21:38
We looked at a couple other things.
2:21:40
Creepy was Helmet Hair by Blue Acorn, which
2:21:43
was Ursula.
2:21:45
That was an AI job, but that was
2:21:47
pretty interesting how it turned out.
2:21:50
Yes, everybody liked to harangue me about, oh,
2:21:54
The Hague is the new Dutch capital.
2:21:56
It's not Amsterdam.
2:21:57
That's actually contentious.
2:22:00
We talked about it after the show.
2:22:03
It's not a pure capital.
2:22:05
What was that?
2:22:05
It was like a- No, it turns
2:22:07
out that there's two capitals of Holland.
2:22:09
Yes.
2:22:10
And it turns out, and then we also
2:22:12
did a little research after the show, and
2:22:14
it turns out that there's about 10 countries
2:22:17
that have dual capitals.
2:22:19
Because the technical description of a capital is
2:22:22
where the government has its seat.
2:22:26
Oh, that was the term.
2:22:27
It was a strange term.
2:22:31
Yeah, we looked at it.
2:22:32
I think we used AI to do the
2:22:34
research.
2:22:35
Really?
2:22:36
Well, then I don't trust you.
2:22:38
I think you used Chad GPT.
2:22:39
You remember what you're talking about.
2:22:40
You're always doing that.
2:22:42
That's exactly what I want to talk about
2:22:43
when you play your AI clips.
2:22:47
There was a term.
2:22:48
I can't remember what the term was.
2:22:51
Yeah, so yeah, Holland has two capitals.
2:22:53
The origin of this capital confusion goes back
2:22:55
to the Middle Ages.
2:22:56
Back then, The Hague was the seat of
2:22:57
the government for the country of Holland and
2:22:59
the courts of Holland.
2:23:00
Amsterdam was just your ordinary up-and-coming
2:23:03
center of trade.
2:23:07
Anyway, fine.
2:23:09
All right, fine, everybody.
2:23:10
Do funny artwork.
2:23:11
I'm good.
2:23:12
I'll say I was wrong.
2:23:13
I'll say I was wrong.
2:23:14
You were wrong.
2:23:15
Technically, the capital is where the government seats.
2:23:20
What else did we have?
2:23:22
There was deepfake nudes.
2:23:25
No, there was E-meter girls.
2:23:27
Got a nice note.
2:23:27
We got a couple of notes from Scientologists.
2:23:29
Hello, Scientologists.
2:23:31
Yeah, we have a number of Scientologists that
2:23:33
were chuckling about our E-mail.
2:23:36
Even the producer who gave us the E
2:23:40
-meters, he still listens.
2:23:41
I love that.
2:23:41
Yeah, I think that's funny.
2:23:43
Yeah, the thing is, he turns out, we
2:23:46
didn't mention this necessarily, but I forgot about
2:23:49
it.
2:23:49
He says his dad was a big shot
2:23:51
in Scientology and he had a bunch of
2:23:53
these E-meters and he couldn't sell them,
2:23:55
get rid of them after his dad died,
2:23:57
because if you try to sell them on
2:23:59
eBay, the Scientology community goes after you and
2:24:02
makes your life miserable.
2:24:03
Oh, no.
2:24:04
They knock on your door and say, hey.
2:24:07
Don't give away our technology.
2:24:08
And so the guy says, hell with it.
2:24:09
I'll just send them to these two bozos.
2:24:11
And so he sends us a couple of
2:24:12
these E-meters.
2:24:13
And we still have them.
2:24:15
We still have them.
2:24:16
We didn't reach.
2:24:19
I'm using them all the time.
2:24:20
So I got another note from another Scientologist
2:24:23
who made the point, he said, you should
2:24:25
charge the E-meter to make the battery
2:24:28
last longer, because we probably haven't charged the
2:24:31
thing ever.
2:24:31
No, I have not.
2:24:33
Oh, I should do that.
2:24:34
Also, I got another note from, and I
2:24:37
shouldn't say he's a Scientologist, but people who
2:24:40
are members of the Church of Scientology and
2:24:44
said- So that would be a Scientologist?
2:24:46
Yeah, well, that's not how he introduced himself.
2:24:50
And he said, you have a lot of,
2:24:53
okay, I'll use your term.
2:24:54
You have a lot of Scientologists listening to
2:24:56
the show because there's a big crossover with
2:24:58
you guys between your stance on vaccines, et
2:25:03
cetera, other pharmaceutical products.
2:25:07
Then there was something else.
2:25:08
Your desire to have tax-free income, I
2:25:11
think, was the other thing.
2:25:12
I'm not sure.
2:25:13
It was something like that.
2:25:15
It makes sense.
2:25:16
So hello, hello, Scientologists.
2:25:18
You're welcome.
2:25:20
Everybody's welcome here.
2:25:21
Yeah.
2:25:22
Yeah, we've never had a problem with anybody.
2:25:23
At least we got some free E-meters.
2:25:26
Hey, it beats a punch in the head.
2:25:31
Free E-meter.
2:25:32
Like I said to the guy, I got
2:25:33
the E-meter, but we didn't get the
2:25:34
pretty girl with it.
2:25:36
So what are you gonna do?
2:25:37
That's what it was.
2:25:39
So thank you very much, Sir Shug, aka
2:25:41
Foe Diddley.
2:25:42
We appreciate your support of the show, as
2:25:44
always.
2:25:45
And that brings us to our executive and
2:25:47
associate executive producers.
2:25:48
We'd like to thank them separately, just like
2:25:50
Hollywood does.
2:25:51
You know, I watched another movie.
2:25:52
I watched the Flight Risk, which is Mark
2:25:54
Wahlberg.
2:25:56
And- Is this another movie you watch
2:25:58
without Tina because she doesn't watch these kinds
2:26:00
of movies?
2:26:01
No, she, the last Wahlberg movie I watched
2:26:03
was pretty dumb.
2:26:04
So I think if I had suggested another
2:26:06
one, she might not have gone for it.
2:26:09
But it was really good.
2:26:10
And a lot of it was, it took
2:26:12
place in a Cessna airplane.
2:26:15
And at the end, boom, credits, executive producer
2:26:17
and director, Mel Gibson.
2:26:19
Like, wow.
2:26:21
He's running for governor.
2:26:23
Of what state?
2:26:25
California.
2:26:26
Really?
2:26:27
Yep.
2:26:28
Wow, that would be- I think he
2:26:30
might be able to even get the job.
2:26:32
Wow, wow.
2:26:33
Because if Kamala Harris runs, there's gonna be
2:26:35
a backlash against her because nobody likes her.
2:26:38
No.
2:26:39
And people always like, you know, let's give
2:26:41
him a shot.
2:26:42
What's it gonna, how bad could it be?
2:26:44
It's Mel.
2:26:45
He's pretty successful with movies.
2:26:47
Yeah, he knows what he's doing.
2:26:49
So we thank everybody, $50 and above.
2:26:51
So you can keep track at home if
2:26:52
you feel called to do that.
2:26:54
But we really just like to thank people
2:26:58
and share with you the support that they
2:27:00
have given because it does keep the show
2:27:02
going for four more years.
2:27:05
$200 or above, you get a credit, like
2:27:07
Hollywood, an associate executive producer credit.
2:27:09
And that is good for your lifetime.
2:27:11
You can use it anywhere, put it anywhere.
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If anyone questions that, we will vouch for
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Can use it on your resume as example.
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And in both cases, we'll read your note.
2:27:23
If it's within reason and not too long,
2:27:25
oh, we've got a long one here today,
2:27:27
I see.
2:27:30
And that gives you the same credit, which
2:27:32
you can then use on imdb.com.
2:27:34
So we'll start off with our first and
2:27:36
top guy, top executive producer of episode 1750,
2:27:43
the Archduke of Central Florida.
2:27:47
I don't remember his actual pre-Duke name,
2:27:51
but he lives in Winter Park, Florida.
2:27:54
And he came in with, actually he gets
2:27:56
a double credit for this because he also
2:27:58
gets a show number donation, 1750.
2:28:02
Yeah, that was a good one.
2:28:03
Which he says heretofore known as the Blofeld
2:28:08
donation from Archduke of Central Florida.
2:28:12
Keep up the Queen Ursula clips, very informative.
2:28:14
Five more years, he says.
2:28:15
Oh, he's skimping, five more years.
2:28:18
Five more years.
2:28:19
Well, if we get more people that donated
2:28:21
1750 every show, we'd probably do five more
2:28:24
years.
2:28:24
Explain the Blofeld donation, because I don't-
2:28:27
I forgot, I don't know, I don't remember.
2:28:29
What is Blofeld?
2:28:31
Blofeld was one of the evil characters in
2:28:33
the early James Bond movies.
2:28:35
Oh, okay.
2:28:36
Stavros Blofeld, he always used to have a
2:28:38
big white cat and he would wear this
2:28:41
gray outfit and he had a scar on
2:28:42
his face and he was bald and he
2:28:44
was nasty.
2:28:46
Thank you very much, Archduke of Central Florida.
2:28:49
And yes, we will now call this the
2:28:51
Blofeld donation, 1750.
2:28:58
Clifford Reemersma.
2:29:00
I would say it's Reemersma.
2:29:04
Reemersma, Reemersma in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, $350.93. Just
2:29:12
bought a pair of work boots for $330.
2:29:15
Wow.
2:29:16
I figure it's time to invest in another
2:29:18
luxury that helps me through the workday.
2:29:23
That's the show, the No Agenda Show.
2:29:26
That's 333.33 plus fees.
2:29:29
Wow.
2:29:30
Two thirds to the knighthood, two thirds of
2:29:33
the way to the knighthood.
2:29:33
Could I get a relationship karma, please?
2:29:35
Yeah, absolutely.
2:29:37
He totally understands the system.
2:29:38
You've got karma.
2:29:41
That's exactly how you should see the show.
2:29:43
He got something out of it and he
2:29:45
put it right back in.
2:29:46
That's the value model right there in a
2:29:48
nutshell.
2:29:48
Yeah, he looked at the shoes.
2:29:49
He said, these are 300 bucks and they're
2:29:51
gonna protect, but he probably has steel toes.
2:29:54
And he said, well, you know what?
2:29:56
This is protecting my brain.
2:29:58
I have one rule which Tina and I
2:30:02
adhere to.
2:30:03
If you're using anything on a daily basis,
2:30:05
you might as well get a good one.
2:30:07
So if it's a mattress, if it's a
2:30:09
pillow, if it's your cutting board, if it's
2:30:12
things that you use every single day.
2:30:15
And if you're listening to a podcast twice
2:30:17
a week for a total of six over
2:30:18
six hours, you might as well make sure
2:30:21
it's continuous.
2:30:22
You want it to be the best podcast
2:30:24
in the universe.
2:30:24
So you need to support us.
2:30:26
That's my logic.
2:30:27
I think that's a good one.
2:30:28
333.33 from Meister Chit Chat in Russellville,
2:30:32
Arkansas.
2:30:33
And he has a very complicated note.
2:30:35
Good evening or morning salutations, amazing gentlemen.
2:30:38
Okay, more brevity is appreciated.
2:30:41
Thank you for your service.
2:30:42
I'd like that, it's courage.
2:30:44
I'd like to clarify my previous donation was
2:30:46
a 333.33 switcheroo with fees included.
2:30:49
So is this one, Miss Eclectic Chit Chat
2:30:52
of Harmony Homestead.
2:30:54
This donation is also a switcheroo for the
2:30:56
same Miss Chit Chat.
2:30:58
Okay, so let me put- Mrs. Chit
2:31:00
Chat.
2:31:00
Mrs. Chit Chat, so let me put in
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Mrs. Chit Chat.
2:31:03
There we go.
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I must make it clear that we engage
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corporately without prejudice for our firstborn to be
2:31:09
named after you without prejudice, our son will
2:31:12
be named Gabriel Nolan of God, a hero
2:31:14
or champion, thanks to you.
2:31:16
And for more years, he will be instrumental
2:31:18
in bringing more souls to the creator during
2:31:20
this time of turmoil.
2:31:21
Is your name Gabriel?
2:31:23
I guess.
2:31:25
Adam Gabriel Curry.
2:31:27
Thank you both and all of Knowage in
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the nation.
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We can begin the next phase of our
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parentage after four years of IVF effort.
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Oh, wow, all right.
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Expensive and tedious, yes.
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No success until we underwent a de-douching.
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A de-douching did it.
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And Lupron endometriosis treatment.
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I think it was the de-douching.
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My wife is now over one third of
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motherhood and two third damehood.
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-grid or gardening help, Harmony Homestead on Facebook
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Woo, no jingles, no karma.
2:32:27
Everything above was long enough, he says.
2:32:29
Yes, SirMeisterChitchat of Harmony Homestead.
2:32:31
Thank you.
2:32:32
Thank you, SirMeisterChitchat.
2:32:34
Great note, very entertaining.
2:32:36
Well, let's contrast that with Chapp Williams in
2:32:41
Edmond, Oklahoma, who came with 333.33. That
2:32:45
was a check with no note, and so
2:32:48
he gets a double up karma.
2:32:50
Oh, and here we go, double up for
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the karmas.
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You've got karma.
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And 333 from SirTanley, SirTanley, Port Orange, Florida.
2:33:02
ITM, Jen, so much to say, so little
2:33:03
time, so I'll keep it short.
2:33:05
Keep up the good work, boys.
2:33:06
You've kept me listening twice a week since
2:33:07
2016, and this donation is a switcheroo for
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my wife, Stormy.
2:33:11
All right, switcheroo has been engaged.
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Happy 17th anniversary, babe.
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You are my ride or die.
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A family that no agendas together stays together.
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know.
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Eli the coffee guy's up.
2:34:00
He's in Bensonville, Illinois, 230.
2:34:02
$3.20. And he says, well, news agency
2:34:07
railed against the administration for deporting an innocent
2:34:12
pro-Palestine activist for exercising his free speech.
2:34:17
You guys called out Mahmoud Khalil for being
2:34:20
a spook.
2:34:22
That's the type of deconstruction that makes no
2:34:24
agenda truly the best podcast in the universe.
2:34:27
Thank you for the insight.
2:34:28
Jingle, spot the spook.
2:34:30
George Clooney's a spy for producers, by the
2:34:32
way.
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Eli the coffee guy.
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♪ A spot the spook, spot the spook
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♪ ♪ Everybody wants to spot the spook,
2:34:54
yeah ♪ ♪ George Clooney, George Clooney, George
2:34:58
Clooney ♪ Is a spy.
2:35:02
Man, I really get him today, don't I?
2:35:04
Day Mary Moon, Prairieville, Louisiana.
2:35:08
Everyone, this is the best day ever.
2:35:12
$200 associate executive producership for her.
2:35:16
And it's a switcheroo for my hubby, Sir
2:35:18
Juklaw.
2:35:18
Oh, okay, all right, Sir Juklaw.
2:35:22
All right, so we'll put Sir Juklaw in
2:35:24
there, perfect.
2:35:26
Welp, good job on the no agenda artwork
2:35:28
you picked on Sunday.
2:35:29
Oh, we were just talking about it.
2:35:30
It prompted my donation.
2:35:32
See, this is why Time Talent Treasure works.
2:35:35
It works in so many different ways, sometimes
2:35:37
unexpected.
2:35:38
I'm not sure if you realized it or
2:35:40
not, possibly it will be discussed on Thursday,
2:35:42
but the graphic is clearly a knockoff of,
2:35:44
oh, this is the note, of the original
2:35:46
Jazzercize artwork, Jazzercize.
2:35:49
I'm sending you the original so you can
2:35:50
compare the similarities.
2:35:52
I'm not mad about the similarities, quite the
2:35:54
contrary.
2:35:54
I have been a Jazzercize instructor for 15
2:35:57
years and I own two Jazzercize studios in
2:36:00
South Louisiana.
2:36:01
It is the best workout program around.
2:36:04
Ladies of no agenda nation, head over to
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your local Jazzercize studio.
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We have 8,000 locations.
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What?
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I need to get the Fredericksburg franchise license.
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We have 8,000 locations and we're in
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nearly every state in over 110 countries to
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experience the original dance fitness workout.
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I've been making people dance, sweat, and smile
2:36:27
for over 55 years.
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By the way, guys, you too can take
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our classes.
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We don't discriminate.
2:36:33
We're not the ginocracy.
2:36:36
Thanks, John and Adam and the artists who
2:36:37
donated their time and talent for making my
2:36:39
morning a little sunnier when I saw the
2:36:41
artwork pop up.
2:36:42
That's from Dame Mary Moon.
2:36:44
How about that?
2:36:44
There it is.
2:36:45
So that's why I never saw the note,
2:36:46
because I didn't get it.
2:36:48
That's what happened there.
2:36:50
It's amazing, the people that listen to this
2:36:52
show.
2:36:53
We have.
2:36:53
And produce it.
2:36:54
Yeah, we do, we do have amazing.
2:36:55
Voting Linda Lou Patkins is Lakewood, Colorado, and
2:36:58
she came up with 200 bucks and asks
2:37:01
for Jobs Karma and says for a competitive
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edge with a resume that gets results, go
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to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume
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Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of
2:37:18
resumes.
2:37:19
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:37:22
Let's vote for jobs.
2:37:24
Jobs, karma.
2:37:26
And there it is again.
2:37:27
Another long note with a switcheroo.
2:37:30
This is crazy.
2:37:32
This is crazy.
2:37:34
A switcheroo.
2:37:35
This is from Caitlin Meyer of Los Angeles,
2:37:37
California.
2:37:39
And switcheroo for Lady Linda of Los Angeles.
2:37:42
Mira que burra, happy birthday.
2:37:45
And that is today.
2:37:46
So on the list.
2:37:48
Your cara de chucho face of a brother
2:37:50
and his wife are putting in the big
2:37:52
one for you, so don't ever say we
2:37:53
did nothing for you.
2:37:55
We're taking a note from Linda Lou, Duchess
2:37:57
of Jobs and writer of resumes and Eli
2:37:58
the Coffee Guy and giving you a big
2:38:00
shout out in front of the best podcast
2:38:02
listeners in the universe.
2:38:06
That's interesting.
2:38:06
Now we have people who use a service
2:38:08
or a product advertising it.
2:38:10
This is great.
2:38:11
That's a double switcheroo.
2:38:13
And Caitlin Meyer asks, have you got money
2:38:16
on your mind?
2:38:17
Why?
2:38:18
Let Lady Linda get your money to work
2:38:20
for you.
2:38:21
If you peruse Instagram for your next overseas
2:38:25
adventure, flip those magazines in the waiting room
2:38:27
and see for yourself on that tranquil shoreline
2:38:30
and get your finances in order.
2:38:32
The money you have today can start working
2:38:34
to send you there tomorrow.
2:38:36
Contact Linda.
2:38:36
She cares and she's good.
2:38:38
That's linda.gaeta at nm.com.
2:38:41
Linda.gaeta, G-A-E-T-A at
2:38:44
nm.com.
2:38:46
Wow.
2:38:47
Now I might have to withdraw the money
2:38:49
from Horowitz and give it to Linda because
2:38:51
she cares and she's good.
2:38:53
We request jobs, Karma, for the birthday girl.
2:38:56
Here's to another great trip around the sun.
2:38:57
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:39:01
Let's vote for jobs.
2:39:03
Yeah!
2:39:04
Karma.
2:39:06
Wow.
2:39:07
That was pretty amazing.
2:39:09
Very interesting executive and associate executive producers.
2:39:13
Thank you so much for supporting the No
2:39:14
Agenda Show episode 1750.
2:39:16
We appreciate that.
2:39:17
And as of Sunday, you'll be able to
2:39:19
go to divorc.org and set up your
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2:39:24
But just in case, remember this, noagendadonations.com.
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That's where you can support us.
2:39:29
We'll be thanking people who support us.
2:39:30
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2:39:33
And yes, you can do a recurring donation,
2:39:35
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2:39:36
It's up to you.
2:39:37
You determine the value.
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Make the number matter to you because we
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Noagendadonations.com.
2:39:45
Thank you again to our executive and associate
2:39:47
executive producers.
2:39:48
Our formula is this.
2:39:50
We go out, we hit people in the
2:39:53
mouth.
2:40:08
All right, two little quick fun, fun clips,
2:40:10
two little quick fun clips, quickies, little quickies,
2:40:13
little quickies.
2:40:14
Sure.
2:40:14
A little AOC gaffe.
2:40:16
And this isn't just about Republicans.
2:40:19
We need a Democratic party that fights harder
2:40:22
for us to.
2:40:26
Your future president, ladies and gentlemen.
2:40:28
Yeah, this is what she's thinking.
2:40:29
That's what's on her mind.
2:40:30
And then this one from Jasmine Crockett.
2:40:33
Everyone's losing their mind over this.
2:40:35
I think this is way overblown.
2:40:38
A Congresswoman from North Texas is causing controversy
2:40:41
over recent comments she made about Governor Abbott.
2:40:45
Fox's Steven Dial explains.
2:40:48
Well, as Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is being called
2:40:50
out by other elected officials for her comments
2:40:52
last Saturday at a human rights campaign event.
2:40:55
Y'all know we got Governor Hot Wheels
2:40:57
down there.
2:40:58
Come on now.
2:41:03
That means that he is a hot mess.
2:41:05
Referring to Governor Greg Abbott as Hot Wheels,
2:41:08
Abbott was partially paralyzed when a tree fell
2:41:10
on him decades ago.
2:41:12
I think this is stupid.
2:41:14
It's actually a cool name.
2:41:16
I think Governor Hot Wheels is pretty funny.
2:41:19
Everybody, ooh, outrage.
2:41:21
Oh, I can't believe she said that she
2:41:23
made fun of the man in the wheelchair.
2:41:28
How hypocritical is that?
2:41:30
Like when Trump makes fun of people's ears
2:41:33
and eyes and height and whatever.
2:41:37
Oh, it's great.
2:41:38
This is actually, I have to say, as
2:41:42
a nickname, I think it's pretty cool.
2:41:44
I'm gonna call him Governor Hot Wheels from
2:41:46
now on.
2:41:47
Okay.
2:41:48
What did you think?
2:41:49
Did you think anything of this at all?
2:41:50
I know you're lost.
2:41:52
No, everybody talked about this.
2:41:54
I thought it was, I think you're right.
2:41:56
It was overblown.
2:41:57
I do think it was kind of at
2:42:00
the, she gave it at a human rights
2:42:02
convention, which I think that was the wrong
2:42:05
audience.
2:42:05
Well, there's that.
2:42:07
I mean, it was like, you know, ableist
2:42:09
kind of thing.
2:42:11
Wow, you are the DEI hire.
2:42:14
You use the term ableist?
2:42:15
Yeah, just because that's the nature of when
2:42:18
she says it.
2:42:19
I think the venue was wrong.
2:42:21
And so she wasn't thinking, but she's a
2:42:23
dummy.
2:42:24
So who cares what she says?
2:42:26
It still was funny.
2:42:27
It is funny.
2:42:28
And I think Hot Wheels is a good
2:42:30
nickname for the guy.
2:42:31
Yeah.
2:42:31
And from now on.
2:42:32
Although I never see him moving very fast
2:42:34
in that thing.
2:42:35
Well, that's kind of the funny part.
2:42:37
It's like, this is what you do.
2:42:39
You give people nicknames based upon their physical
2:42:42
appearance.
2:42:44
We do this all the time on the
2:42:46
show.
2:42:48
Yes, we do it all the time.
2:42:49
Okay, so.
2:42:50
But we're not in front of a human
2:42:52
rights convention.
2:42:53
We do it.
2:42:53
Well, we are in front of Scientologists.
2:42:55
I mean.
2:42:56
Yeah, it's true.
2:42:57
We get the Scientologists.
2:42:58
We haven't really given anyone grief.
2:43:00
No.
2:43:01
Do they really donate the Scientologists?
2:43:02
Or they don't, do they do the silent
2:43:03
donations?
2:43:03
You know, it's a good question.
2:43:05
We'll have to take a look.
2:43:06
I'll have to go back to this.
2:43:08
Let's do a little couple.
2:43:09
Well, I got a couple of clips which
2:43:10
kind of have a little gotcha in here
2:43:13
that I think is worth talking about.
2:43:14
This is about religious quitting.
2:43:16
This is on NPD, especially on people that
2:43:18
are brought up in a religion and they
2:43:21
quit.
2:43:22
Hell no.
2:43:23
People around the world are switching religions or
2:43:25
leaving religion altogether.
2:43:27
A new study from Pew Research finds that
2:43:29
large portions of adults no longer practice the
2:43:32
faith in which they were raised.
2:43:34
Pew surveyed nearly 80,000 people in 36
2:43:37
countries.
2:43:37
NPR religion correspondent Jason Derose reports.
2:43:41
Switching is especially common in East Asia, Europe,
2:43:44
and the Americas.
2:43:45
Kirsten LaSage is the study's lead author.
2:43:48
Out of the 36 countries that we surveyed
2:43:50
in, the three countries with the highest rates
2:43:53
of religious switching are South Korea, Spain, and
2:43:57
Canada.
2:43:58
In South Korea, Pew found that 50%
2:44:00
of respondents had changed religions.
2:44:02
In Spain, 40% said they'd left their
2:44:05
childhood faith.
2:44:05
In Canada, the number is 38%.
2:44:08
By comparison, in the US, 28% switched.
2:44:12
LaSage says two religions were most affected.
2:44:15
The religious groups that have had the largest
2:44:17
losses from religious switching are Christianity and Buddhism.
2:44:22
LaSage says the change is particularly acute in
2:44:25
parts of Europe.
2:44:26
For example, Italy has the highest ratio of
2:44:28
people leaving to people joining Christianity.
2:44:31
For every one person who becomes Christian, about
2:44:33
28 Italians are leaving the religion.
2:44:36
The biggest gains were among those who have
2:44:38
no religious affiliation, which is a group that
2:44:41
includes atheists, agnostics, and those who describe themselves
2:44:44
as nothing in particular.
2:44:46
So it's not the case that people are
2:44:48
necessarily switching from one religion to the next.
2:44:51
For example, there's not a lot of switching
2:44:53
from Christianity into Islam.
2:44:56
Rather, LaSage says, most switching is people leaving
2:45:00
religion altogether.
2:45:02
Yeah, well, this is an interesting choice of
2:45:05
words, but maybe I should hold my white
2:45:09
Christian nationalist perspective until the second clip.
2:45:13
Yeah, I would say, because I have the
2:45:16
sense that they're trying to slam the Christians
2:45:20
here in some funny way.
2:45:22
And I think the second clip has an
2:45:25
exemplification of that.
2:45:27
And it's a tricky one, and we'll listen
2:45:29
to it, and then I'll ask you a
2:45:31
question.
2:45:31
Ooh, a question.
2:45:33
Well, let me go and walk away from
2:45:35
the microphone, so at least we're fair.
2:45:37
Meanwhile, specific religions in some countries appear to
2:45:39
be stickier than others.
2:45:41
Pew found very small percentages of the overall
2:45:43
adult population have left or joined Islam in
2:45:46
most of the countries surveyed, and nearly all
2:45:49
people who- Wait, joined or left Islam?
2:45:52
Hold on a second.
2:45:53
Very few people leave Islam.
2:45:55
Oh.
2:45:55
Pew found very small percentages of the overall
2:45:58
adult population have left or joined Islam in
2:46:01
most of the countries surveyed, and nearly all
2:46:03
people who were raised Hindu in India and
2:46:06
Bangladesh still identify as Hindu today.
2:46:09
Judaism's retention rate is also high.
2:46:12
In Israel, 100% of people Pew surveyed
2:46:15
who were raised Jewish still identify religiously as
2:46:19
Jewish.
2:46:20
In the U.S., 76% of those
2:46:22
raised Jewish still identify that way today, with
2:46:24
most American Jews who've left the faith now
2:46:27
identifying as unaffiliated.
2:46:30
Pew also found that 19% of U
2:46:32
.S. adults raised as Christian now identify as
2:46:36
religiously unaffiliated.
2:46:37
Jason Derose, NPR News.
2:46:40
All right.
2:46:41
Interesting report from Pew.
2:46:42
So I'm gonna ask you the question.
2:46:44
Okay.
2:46:45
Why do you think more Christians have become
2:46:48
unaffiliated in the United States than Jews?
2:46:54
Oh, I can answer the first question, but
2:46:56
the second one, well, you are a Jew,
2:47:00
there's not just a religion.
2:47:04
They consider themselves to be part of a
2:47:07
population group and also not white.
2:47:12
Well, wrong.
2:47:15
According to Pew, what did Pew say?
2:47:17
Pew said that more Jews than Christians have
2:47:21
left the faith in the United States.
2:47:24
But you heard it differently, didn't you?
2:47:26
I sure did.
2:47:28
The fact that you could answer that, try
2:47:29
to answer a question that was a misleading
2:47:32
question based on what you thought you heard.
2:47:35
Wow, do I need to listen to that
2:47:36
again to hear it correctly?
2:47:38
I'll explain what they did, then you can
2:47:40
listen again.
2:47:41
That was really good.
2:47:41
What they did was they did the old
2:47:43
switch where they gave you the wrong side
2:47:45
of the equation and you had to do
2:47:48
the math in your head to understand what
2:47:52
the leaving rate was.
2:47:54
Wow.
2:47:55
And then they gave you the right side
2:47:56
of the equation.
2:47:57
This is NPR, by the way.
2:47:58
And then they gave you the right side
2:48:00
of the equation for the Christian part of
2:48:01
it.
2:48:02
In fact, if you listen carefully, 24%
2:48:05
of the Jews left and 19% of
2:48:10
the Christians left the faith.
2:48:11
Let me hear the, it's in the second
2:48:12
clip or in the first clip?
2:48:14
It's in the second clip, right at the
2:48:15
end.
2:48:15
Let me move it forward a little bit.
2:48:17
That was, wow, I got duped.
2:48:19
You surveyed who were raised Jewish, still identify.
2:48:23
I guess they go back a little bit.
2:48:24
That's good.
2:48:25
Okay.
2:48:26
As Hindu today.
2:48:27
Judaism's retention rate is also high.
2:48:30
In Israel, 100% of people Pew surveyed
2:48:33
who were raised Jewish still identify religiously as
2:48:37
Jewish.
2:48:37
In the U.S., 76% of those
2:48:40
raised Jewish still identify that way today, with
2:48:42
most American Jews who've left the faith now
2:48:45
identifying as unaffiliated.
2:48:48
Pew also found that 19% of U
2:48:50
.S. adults raised as Christian now identify as
2:48:54
religiously unaffiliated.
2:48:56
Wow.
2:48:56
Jason Derose, NPR News.
2:48:58
Good catch.
2:48:59
Wow.
2:48:59
This is why I teased this early in
2:49:01
the show, saying how you can do this.
2:49:03
With a half a decade?
2:49:04
With a half a decade.
2:49:05
Yeah, yeah.
2:49:06
This is the kind of stuff that NPR
2:49:08
pulls.
2:49:10
There's no reason for them to do it
2:49:12
that way.
2:49:12
To say 76% and then stayed and
2:49:17
then 19% left for the Christian side,
2:49:19
it gives you the sense that the Christians
2:49:23
are bailing out.
2:49:24
And in fact, the opposite is actually true.
2:49:26
And that's why you thought you answered a
2:49:29
question that really was a faulty question, based
2:49:32
on the bull crap.
2:49:33
Wow.
2:49:35
Well, thank you.
2:49:36
That was very good.
2:49:37
That is media deconstruction at its finest.
2:49:41
I tip my hat to you, sir.
2:49:43
Thank you.
2:49:43
Thank you very much.
2:49:44
I will say the thing that I was
2:49:46
focused on is the term religion.
2:49:49
Religion, I am not religious.
2:49:51
I do not belong to a religion.
2:49:53
And also when they say, well, all these
2:49:55
Christians in Rome, well, their religion is Catholicism.
2:50:00
It is in fact, and I do track
2:50:02
this, and I talk to different pastors about
2:50:05
this, we are seeing record numbers of people
2:50:08
leaving the Baptist church and the Catholic church,
2:50:11
and they're going non-denominational or just are
2:50:14
believers and have faith.
2:50:16
So I think the whole study is somewhat
2:50:19
skewed because if you actually look at the
2:50:21
Zoomers, they're buying Bibles like no one else's
2:50:24
business.
2:50:25
It's up over 20% in the past
2:50:27
year.
2:50:27
Yeah, I think that's veering off what the
2:50:30
topic was.
2:50:31
I think they were specifically talking about religion.
2:50:34
I know, but people who are atheists or
2:50:37
non-believers, when they hear religion, they think,
2:50:41
oh, church people.
2:50:43
But I go to a church, but it's
2:50:46
not a religion.
2:50:48
Organized religion, if anything, is a problem, in
2:50:51
my opinion, and it's not been good for
2:50:55
the Pope.
2:50:56
Italian doctor who led the hospital team that
2:50:58
cared for Pope Francis is giving new insight
2:51:00
into the seriousness of the Pope's recent health
2:51:03
battle.
2:51:04
Professor Sergio Alfieri told an Italian newspaper that
2:51:07
doctors considered ending his treatment.
2:51:09
The critical moment came on February 28th when
2:51:11
the Pope had a breathing crisis.
2:51:13
The choice was whether to stop treatment and
2:51:16
let him pass or try more aggressive drugs
2:51:19
and therapies that come with a very high
2:51:21
risk of damaging other organs.
2:51:23
Man, we didn't hear that report that he
2:51:25
almost died.
2:51:26
It was all like, oh, he's gonna be
2:51:28
okay.
2:51:28
He just inhaled some puke.
2:51:31
It's okay, it's all right.
2:51:32
He's hanging in there.
2:51:34
He almost died.
2:51:35
They almost pulled him off the system.
2:51:37
The Pope was aware that there was a
2:51:39
chance that he might not survive the night.
2:51:41
According to the doctor who was then instructed
2:51:43
to try everything and not give up, back
2:51:46
here at home, Dr. David Manoff at Temple
2:51:48
University Hospital Genes Campus says this type of
2:51:51
scenario is not uncommon.
2:51:53
Once you are really, really sick and in
2:51:56
an ICU, sometimes some of the things that
2:51:59
we really have to do are to prioritize
2:52:01
what the most life-threatening organ failure is
2:52:05
going to be at that time, even if
2:52:07
some of the things that we do can
2:52:08
potentially come at the potential for injury to
2:52:11
other organ systems.
2:52:12
So Dr. Manoff says the Pope has a
2:52:14
long road to recovery.
2:52:15
Pope Francis was discharged on Sunday after 38
2:52:18
days in the hospital.
2:52:20
Man, that was pretty serious.
2:52:23
Gives me more time to think about the
2:52:25
next Pope.
2:52:26
Yeah, that's a good, it's a break for
2:52:28
you.
2:52:30
I'm narrowing it down as three candidates, three
2:52:33
candidates, I'm getting close.
2:52:34
I'm not even gonna ask you to tease
2:52:36
it.
2:52:36
No, I have to.
2:52:37
International news, just a little bit.
2:52:39
International news, everybody.
2:52:40
Wait a minute, I'm guessing maybe it is
2:52:42
the BBC World Service.
2:52:45
Yes.
2:52:45
This is good stuff.
2:52:47
Now this is the South, all hell's breaking
2:52:49
loose and we're not being told about.
2:52:52
It's amazing, actually.
2:52:53
Let's start with South Sudan.
2:52:54
The UN mission in South Sudan has warned
2:52:57
that the arrest of first vice president Riek
2:52:59
Machar has brought the country to the brink
2:53:01
of another civil war.
2:53:03
The renewed political violence began last month.
2:53:05
Paddy McGuire reports.
2:53:07
The arrest of President Salva Kiir's long-term
2:53:09
rival at his residence in Juba is a
2:53:12
dramatic escalation.
2:53:13
In a statement, the head of UNMISS said
2:53:15
rising tensions between factions loyal to Mr. Machar,
2:53:19
a former rebel leader, and the forces of
2:53:21
Mr. Kiir were jeopardizing the 2018 peace agreement.
2:53:25
Nearly 400,000 people died in five years
2:53:28
of devastating civil war before the power-sharing
2:53:31
deal was signed.
2:53:32
As that deal unravels and the violence escalates,
2:53:35
some 50,000 South Sudanese citizens have already
2:53:38
been displaced.
2:53:40
Oh, will they be passionate at the universities
2:53:42
about this?
2:53:44
No, of course not.
2:53:45
They don't care.
2:53:46
Nobody cares about this stuff.
2:53:48
So here we go to the other one,
2:53:49
it's Pakistan.
2:53:51
Oh, I also have a Africa clip, actually.
2:53:53
Pakistan, okay.
2:53:55
Senior police in Balochistan say at least six
2:53:58
people were killed on Wednesday in a spate
2:54:00
of coordinated attacks in Pakistan's restless southwestern province.
2:54:04
According to the French news agency, police accused
2:54:07
gunmen of targeting bus passengers on the basis
2:54:09
of their ethnicity.
2:54:11
A member of the security forces was among
2:54:13
those killed.
2:54:14
Local press reported explosions and trucks being set
2:54:17
on fire in various parts of the province.
2:54:19
Separatist insurgents have stepped up their activity against
2:54:22
Pakistani security forces in recent weeks.
2:54:28
Yeah, no one cares about that, except us.
2:54:33
And the Sudanese, even funnier about people not
2:54:36
caring, 400,000 people killed?
2:54:39
No, who cares?
2:54:42
Who cares?
2:54:45
Interesting, do we have the same clip here?
2:54:47
Because I have one Africa clip, because, you
2:54:49
know, manga make Africa news great again.
2:54:52
This USAID, Uganda, BBC?
2:54:55
Well, let's try it.
2:54:56
As a federal judge in the U.S.
2:54:58
blocks the Trump administration from taking further steps
2:55:01
to shut down the U.S. Agency for
2:55:03
International Development, we'll be asking what that means
2:55:06
in practice for people on the ground running
2:55:09
health programs in Uganda.
2:55:11
Ah, well, I happen to have an answer.
2:55:14
Well, there you go.
2:55:15
Yes, and this answer in the Africa news
2:55:17
segment from the No Agenda World Service, we
2:55:20
should do our own thing.
2:55:21
Now from the No Agenda World Service, we
2:55:23
go to Africa.
2:55:26
And what do we learn in Africa?
2:55:27
This is from the former African Union Ambassador
2:55:31
to the United States.
2:55:33
Her name is Arekana Chihombori Kwao.
2:55:38
We need to understand the real reason why
2:55:41
USAID is in Africa.
2:55:42
And not just USAID, but other NGOs.
2:55:45
You look at DFID, which is the British
2:55:46
equivalent, and many other smaller ones.
2:55:48
Their sole purpose was to act as if
2:55:53
they're coming to rescue Africa.
2:55:55
They are coming in claiming that they are
2:55:57
introducing grassroots initiatives that are going to help
2:56:00
the people.
2:56:01
And so they use that as a way
2:56:02
to go into the most remote parts of
2:56:04
Africa.
2:56:04
When you look at it on paper, it
2:56:06
all looks really good.
2:56:07
But they're actually wolf in sheep's clothing.
2:56:11
They are using that open access, sounding humanitarian,
2:56:15
to constantly destabilize governments.
2:56:18
I can tell you right now, the majority
2:56:20
of African leaders, and not just African leaders,
2:56:22
but leaders in the developing world, are celebrating
2:56:25
the exit of USAID.
2:56:27
If you think about it, their sole purpose,
2:56:29
for example, filling in the gaps in healthcare
2:56:31
and education, where is the change?
2:56:33
Show me one country that USAID was in
2:56:35
and education improved.
2:56:37
Show me what country where USAID was in
2:56:40
and healthcare improved.
2:56:42
The social services they're bringing, it's peanuts.
2:56:44
The American taxpayer needs to know.
2:56:46
The billions of dollars that are being given
2:56:48
to USAID, a fraction is making it to
2:56:51
the people.
2:56:51
Oh, there you go.
2:56:52
Straight from the horse's mouth.
2:56:54
Not like we didn't know that.
2:56:56
No, we knew it.
2:56:57
We had a note from one of our
2:56:58
producers.
2:56:59
I wish I could find it, because I
2:57:01
was going to discuss it.
2:57:03
Yeah, I remember the note.
2:57:04
We actually got a couple of good notes.
2:57:06
We got some good notes.
2:57:06
The guy says he was in Africa, and
2:57:09
the USAID guys came in with a bunch
2:57:12
of stuff.
2:57:13
Mosquito nets, mosquito nets.
2:57:14
Mosquito nets, and they took a bunch of
2:57:15
pictures of them.
2:57:17
Here's the pictures of us with the guys,
2:57:19
and then they left, and left them high
2:57:21
and dry, saying they was only there for
2:57:23
a photo op.
2:57:25
Yeah.
2:57:27
Do your AI clips, because then we can
2:57:29
wrap today's show with that.
2:57:31
This is the, these clips, I don't know
2:57:33
if this is going to work with what
2:57:34
you have to talk about.
2:57:36
Well, maybe, I don't know.
2:57:37
This is about AI in libraries and the
2:57:40
benefit that it could provide, and I think
2:57:42
this is accurate stuff, and this is mostly,
2:57:45
the first clip is Brewster Cayley, who's the
2:57:48
head of thearchive.org.
2:57:53
Is it Cayley?
2:57:54
Cale?
2:57:55
Brewster Cale.
2:57:56
Cale, I think it's pronounced.
2:57:57
I know the guy, but he won't.
2:57:59
He won't take your call anymore?
2:58:01
No, he won't take it.
2:58:02
Because you're a podcaster, you're a podcaster.
2:58:05
Yeah, I went from important writer to podcaster,
2:58:08
and that was the end of that.
2:58:09
If you were an important writer, award-winning.
2:58:11
Yeah, I was important, award-winning.
2:58:12
Instant best seller.
2:58:13
Instant best, yeah, of course you did.
2:58:15
I know you did.
2:58:16
Yeah, instant best seller.
2:58:18
Yes, instant.
2:58:19
Here we go.
2:58:20
You're right.
2:58:21
We're digitizing all of these pest reports from
2:58:24
Africa for over the last century, and people
2:58:27
are probably not gonna be the primary readers
2:58:29
of this, but our machines can.
2:58:32
So not only just search engines for going
2:58:34
and helping people find it and then using
2:58:36
digital interlibrary loan, which is fantastic and it's
2:58:39
going on now, but we now have these
2:58:42
technologies, the AI technologies that allows these to
2:58:46
be put in new and different ways to
2:58:48
go and correlate information across texts that have
2:58:52
spanned over centuries and to be able to
2:58:55
try to make that more digestible, more learnable,
2:58:58
more browsable, more interactable than ever before.
2:59:01
The opportunity of our digital libraries coming and
2:59:05
being useful to people because of these new
2:59:08
technologies is just fantastic.
2:59:10
Oh, was that Brewster?
2:59:13
I think so.
2:59:13
Oh, so fantastic.
2:59:15
It goes on and on with part two.
2:59:17
There's a three-parter.
2:59:18
There's not much I can say.
2:59:21
And are you talking about your own AI
2:59:23
engine or using somebody else's?
2:59:25
Well, lots of people are downloading- Hold
2:59:27
on.
2:59:28
What it sounds like to me, is he
2:59:29
pitching selling archive.org to AI companies?
2:59:33
Is that what I'm hearing here?
2:59:35
I didn't hear that in the clip, but
2:59:37
it's quite possible.
2:59:38
And are you talking about your own AI
2:59:40
engine or using somebody else's?
2:59:43
Well, lots of people are downloading lots of
2:59:45
things from the internet archive and putting them
2:59:47
in the big commercial systems, but pretty much
2:59:50
just the open materials because of all the
2:59:52
copyright and lawsuits problems that we have in
2:59:54
the United States.
2:59:55
In Europe, they've specifically encouraged cultural heritage institutions
3:00:00
and research organizations to work together to use
3:00:04
these for new and different things.
3:00:05
So that's why I'm in Amsterdam right now
3:00:08
working with these research organizations to make use
3:00:11
of these materials because there's regulatory clarity in
3:00:14
Europe towards having a blossoming of our library
3:00:18
collections and bringing them to life.
3:00:21
He's got an agenda here for sure.
3:00:24
Well, his agenda is he's getting sued left
3:00:26
and right by these- Yeah, yeah.
3:00:28
Well, and I can't say it's, I mean,
3:00:32
whenever, here's a little trick.
3:00:34
I have a, this is a tip of
3:00:37
the day.
3:00:38
I have a browser plugin.
3:00:40
It's called ArchivePage.
3:00:43
And I have it on my Bravo browser.
3:00:47
And so whenever I hit a Wall Street,
3:00:51
whenever I hit a Wall Street Journal article
3:00:55
or anything like that, I hit my ArchivePage
3:00:59
browser plugin and it will immediately find that
3:01:04
page, which has then been archived by someone
3:01:06
who apparently paid for it or archived it
3:01:09
before it was behind whatever paywall.
3:01:11
And boom, you got the whole page right
3:01:13
there.
3:01:13
You can read it, no problem.
3:01:16
That is a good tip.
3:01:19
Somebody else sent a similar tip that I'm
3:01:21
not gonna use today, but maybe we should
3:01:23
gang him up and do the two tips
3:01:24
in an upcoming show.
3:01:28
Let's wrap it with the third of these
3:01:30
clips.
3:01:30
I want to look at another aspect of
3:01:31
this, which is that we shouldn't forget that
3:01:33
libraries preserve and make available many things other
3:01:36
than books or magazines.
3:01:37
For example, at the US Library of Congress,
3:01:40
less than a quarter of the objects held
3:01:42
are books.
3:01:44
So what about webpages, for instance, Bruce?
3:01:47
They do tend to appear and disappear with
3:01:49
alarming speed, don't they?
3:01:51
The average life of a webpage is about
3:01:53
100 days before it's changed or deleted.
3:01:56
It completely changes how we go and build
3:01:59
our collections.
3:01:59
We have to do it preemptively, just in
3:02:02
case it might be useful.
3:02:03
We collect over one billion URLs every day.
3:02:07
The number of webpages in the Wayback Machine
3:02:11
is now 900 billion.
3:02:13
The scale of it is a little hard
3:02:15
to understand, but it's just trying to record
3:02:18
what's going on out there just so that
3:02:21
we can basically have our own history.
3:02:24
Just requires a different view of how we
3:02:28
see our old-fashioned trade of archivists and
3:02:32
librarians.
3:02:34
Huh.
3:02:35
Well, I certainly think he has an awesome
3:02:38
index.
3:02:39
He has a very crappy way to search.
3:02:42
I mean, unless you have a- Oh,
3:02:43
it's just out of, the search is no
3:02:45
good.
3:02:45
It's no good, but this is- In
3:02:47
fact, if you could really search that thing,
3:02:49
there's a lot of value in that.
3:02:51
In fact, they also have, the thing about
3:02:53
that collection is he has a collection of
3:02:55
78s.
3:02:56
Yes, we've talked about this.
3:02:59
It is unbelievable.
3:03:00
And not only that, but he has a
3:03:01
bunch of these nut balls out there who
3:03:04
have fixed a lot of these, I mean,
3:03:06
using modern- Technologies.
3:03:09
Software.
3:03:11
Fixed a lot of the 78s so there's
3:03:12
no pops or crackles or, and the fidelity's
3:03:15
better.
3:03:15
Yeah.
3:03:17
You have to, it's a lot of work
3:03:18
to do any of those, let alone a
3:03:21
lot of them.
3:03:22
And there's two or three guys that have
3:03:23
been doing it just kind of consistently.
3:03:24
I guess maybe they do a few every
3:03:26
day.
3:03:27
Well, you know, when the- But the
3:03:28
collection of 78s is unbelievable.
3:03:31
Do you remember when the MTV News webpage
3:03:33
just went off the air?
3:03:35
Yeah.
3:03:36
I downloaded the entire archive of the MTV
3:03:40
News website from archive.org.
3:03:43
There's a couple of really good scripts out
3:03:45
there.
3:03:46
I mean, because it's basically an open source
3:03:49
resource, it would be fantastic for Anthropic or
3:03:52
someone to really put a good search engine
3:03:55
on top of that.
3:03:57
In fact, this is the trend as Google
3:04:00
is about to do this very thing.
3:04:02
Google has introduced a new feature.
3:04:04
And this of course is a story about
3:04:06
AI read by AI.
3:04:07
Called AI mode, which is an advanced chat
3:04:10
bot designed to answer search queries.
3:04:12
This update is seen as Google's direct response
3:04:15
to competitors like ChatGPT, which have been gaining
3:04:18
popularity.
3:04:19
When users ask a question in AI mode,
3:04:22
Google's Gemini 2.0 AI model generates a
3:04:25
detailed answer.
3:04:26
This AI system allows users to ask follow
3:04:28
-up questions or request additional links for more
3:04:31
information.
3:04:32
Google explains that AI mode is designed to
3:04:35
simplify complex topics by organizing data and presenting
3:04:39
it in a clear and easy to understand
3:04:41
format.
3:04:42
The company is making major improvements to its
3:04:44
search engine by integrating the latest version of
3:04:47
its artificial intelligence.
3:04:48
This change is part of Google's effort to
3:04:50
provide faster and more expert level answers to
3:04:53
users.
3:04:54
Competition in the AI search industry has been
3:04:56
increasing with smaller companies creating innovative ways to
3:05:00
deliver search results.
3:05:02
To stay ahead, Google has decided to enhance
3:05:04
its search engine with more powerful AI capabilities.
3:05:08
The Gemini 2.0 AI model will now
3:05:10
be used to answer complicated questions, especially those
3:05:13
related to subjects like computer programming and mathematics.
3:05:17
And there it is.
3:05:18
So first of all, yes, I just said
3:05:20
it's an AI voice.
3:05:21
Everyone's like, this voice is AI.
3:05:23
Okay, are you listening to the show?
3:05:25
So I decided to use multiple AIs, including
3:05:33
ChatGPT.
3:05:35
I did not get, not try Copilot because
3:05:38
I had a project.
3:05:39
I had a- About Grok.
3:05:41
No, I had a computer coding project and
3:05:43
this is what it's supposed to be good
3:05:45
at.
3:05:46
And so I run a little streaming radio
3:05:49
station called hellofred.fm, and I run it
3:05:53
on a radio program called Station Playlist.
3:05:57
And then so it streams and you can
3:05:59
schedule, do clocks, you know, when you want
3:06:01
a jingle or a different format of music,
3:06:04
all that stuff.
3:06:05
And I was really interested in putting this
3:06:08
on a Unix server and using something called
3:06:11
Liquid Soap, which is a very, very extensive
3:06:15
program.
3:06:15
It has this whole, it's a complete programming
3:06:18
language.
3:06:18
It's all open source.
3:06:20
Thousands of people have worked on this.
3:06:22
There's extensive documentation.
3:06:24
All the syntax is very well documented, very
3:06:27
well known.
3:06:28
And so I'm able to set up the
3:06:30
server and get a basic system where it
3:06:33
just, you know, plays one song after another.
3:06:35
But then I want to script and have
3:06:38
transitions work a certain way.
3:06:40
I want it to pull, you know, I
3:06:41
want to be able to put in a
3:06:42
format, way which songs, you know, how many
3:06:44
song separation, that kind of stuff.
3:06:47
And I just can't figure it out.
3:06:49
So I go to the AIs and it's
3:06:53
very friendly.
3:06:53
Oh, sure, Adam, I can, and it calls
3:06:55
me by my name.
3:06:56
Adam, I can help you with this, no
3:06:58
problem.
3:06:58
I spent almost all of Monday and Tuesday
3:07:02
trying to just get this thing to do
3:07:04
a different type of crossfade.
3:07:07
And it took, I think I must have
3:07:09
over 300 prompts and replies and I keep
3:07:13
putting the error and it kept getting an
3:07:15
error and then another error.
3:07:17
And then all of a sudden, well, you
3:07:18
have the wrong version of FFmpeg.
3:07:20
So I'm recompiling FFmpeg from source.
3:07:23
And then it's like, well, you need to
3:07:24
recompile the kernel.
3:07:26
None of these things could actually help me
3:07:29
write a successful script.
3:07:31
It sucks.
3:07:32
This is the whole point.
3:07:34
It's supposed to make people be able to
3:07:36
code.
3:07:37
Mathematics, code, they said it right there.
3:07:40
It doesn't.
3:07:41
It does a horrible job.
3:07:42
Walk right into it.
3:07:43
And I even said, here's the document.
3:07:45
Oh, yes, I'm very aware of this documentation.
3:07:48
And then it would be like, oh no,
3:07:50
it seems like we have a problem.
3:07:51
You're using a different version of what time
3:07:53
to step down from FFmpeg 5.5.1
3:07:56
to 4.4.7. It sucks.
3:07:59
It is a time waste.
3:08:01
I could have learned the language in the
3:08:03
amount of time I put into it.
3:08:05
What a horrible experience.
3:08:07
This is going nowhere.
3:08:09
And welcome to the No Agenda Grievance section
3:08:12
of the show.
3:08:14
I'm gonna show my support by donating to
3:08:16
No Agenda.
3:08:16
Imagine all the people who could deal with
3:08:18
us.
3:08:19
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
3:08:21
Yeah, on No Agenda, in the morning.
3:08:27
I missed a semicolon somewhere.
3:08:29
Yeah, that's right.
3:08:30
And by the way, we're talking about grievance.
3:08:33
I have a grievance with today's donation segment.
3:08:36
We had a total of 30 donors.
3:08:38
This is crazy.
3:08:39
This is really crazy.
3:08:41
It's the shortest list we've ever had, I'd
3:08:43
say for at least two years.
3:08:45
Yeah.
3:08:46
And I'll read the ones starting with entry
3:08:51
number 10, actually, and take it to entry
3:08:55
number 30, and that would be the total
3:08:57
for the day.
3:08:58
Wow.
3:08:59
Mark Lane, Houston, Texas, starts us off at
3:09:01
199, and John W.
3:09:02
Schumann in Madison, Wisconsin, 184.29. Sir Ever
3:09:07
of the Watt in Linwood, Michigan, $130.03.
3:09:13
Kevin McLaughlin, there he is right away at
3:09:16
8008.
3:09:17
He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America
3:09:20
and lover of boobs.
3:09:22
Boobs?
3:09:23
Tim Kwan, 75.
3:09:26
He actually came in with a Weiss, somehow
3:09:29
he managed to get Weiss approved.
3:09:31
Weiss is a weird app, but it basically
3:09:33
does an ACH transfer somehow.
3:09:38
Well, if you do that, set it up
3:09:39
at your bank.
3:09:40
If you do it the other way around,
3:09:41
where you have to put the onus on
3:09:43
the show, it can't get, we can't get
3:09:45
it.
3:09:45
No, of course not.
3:09:46
We can't get anything with our bank.
3:09:47
I'd like to know, I'd like Tim to
3:09:49
tell me what his process was.
3:09:50
We can't get anything done with our bank.
3:09:53
No.
3:09:53
I love our bank.
3:09:54
The bank is just like, hey, you got
3:09:56
cash, we'll take your cash.
3:09:58
We'll take your cash.
3:09:58
We'll take a check, we'll take your cash.
3:10:00
What else you got?
3:10:00
You can write a check, you want gold
3:10:02
bars.
3:10:02
All right, shut up already.
3:10:04
That's exactly right.
3:10:06
Jose Perretti's in Wichita, Kansas, 69.33. He
3:10:10
needs a de-douching.
3:10:13
You've been de-douched.
3:10:16
And he's got a birthday coming up and
3:10:17
he's on the list.
3:10:18
Bruno Freitas Das San something.
3:10:23
Das, I don't have it on here.
3:10:24
Hold on.
3:10:25
Bruno Freitas Das Santos.
3:10:28
Das Santos in San Francisco, 5,272, which
3:10:31
is a $50 donation.
3:10:32
Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina, 5,272.
3:10:36
Tom Flynn in Beaverton, Oregon, 5,272.
3:10:39
And he says, great show.
3:10:41
Eric Hochul, our buddy in Mulrose, Mulrose, Deutschland,
3:10:46
52.
3:10:47
Now we have the 50, we're already at
3:10:49
the 50s and here we go.
3:10:50
Starting with Brett Denton in Boise, Melissa Alvarez
3:10:55
in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida.
3:10:59
Christopher Haynes in Spring, Texas.
3:11:01
George Ushet in La Vernia, Texas.
3:11:06
Jacqueline Connelly in Green Bay, Go Packers, Wisconsin.
3:11:10
Richard Gardner, I think he's in New York.
3:11:13
Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.
3:11:17
Christopher Haynes in Spring, Texas.
3:11:20
A lot of people in Spring, Texas.
3:11:23
Michael Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana.
3:11:25
Alan Bean, Baron Alan Bean in Beaverton, Oregon.
3:11:29
And last on our list, a Baroness Knight
3:11:31
in Edmonds, Washington.
3:11:33
And that's the short list for today's show.
3:11:35
Want to thank them for helping us out
3:11:37
on show.
3:11:37
Of all shows, 1750, a landmark show.
3:11:41
Yeah, and well, we did have, thank God,
3:11:44
we had one show number donation.
3:11:47
Man, step it up, people.
3:11:49
And please check your recurring donations because they're
3:11:53
falling off dramatically as they expire when your
3:11:56
credit card or something else expires.
3:11:57
Yes, we lost a lot of those.
3:11:58
I think that makes a big difference.
3:12:00
And we do have to give, I don't
3:12:01
know why he did this, but he came
3:12:03
in at $49.99, but he wants, this
3:12:06
is Dennis down below.
3:12:07
He's just had hemorrhoid surgery.
3:12:10
Ouch.
3:12:10
He says it's been six weeks of five
3:12:12
hours of diffusingly pain after I poop.
3:12:17
I mean, the pain is unbearable.
3:12:19
I'm on this and that.
3:12:21
Oh my goodness.
3:12:21
He says that he's not cutting it.
3:12:22
I know I'm not a big donor, under
3:12:26
50 every year, but if you guys can
3:12:28
give me some health karma, that would be
3:12:29
great.
3:12:30
Yes, I'm going to give him some health
3:12:33
karma right now because, man, especially after you
3:12:35
poop, that's no good.
3:12:36
Here you go, buddy.
3:12:37
You've got karma.
3:12:40
He's in Puerto Rico.
3:12:41
All right.
3:12:42
Thank you very much to these donors, $50
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producers.
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Please help us out by going to noagendashow
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Support the show.
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Thank you all very much.
3:13:02
♪ It's your birthday, birthday ♪ ♪ On
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No Agenda ♪ Kaitlin Myers says happy birthday
3:13:09
to Lady Linda.
3:13:10
She celebrates today.
3:13:11
Michelle Niva says happy birthday to Nora Niva,
3:13:14
and she turns 21 on, what is it,
3:13:18
on Saturday.
3:13:20
Jose Paredes on the 29th.
3:13:22
That's also on Saturday.
3:13:24
And some health karma for Denise Denise.
3:13:26
Oh, that's not a birthday, but I will
3:13:28
add that in just a moment.
3:13:30
But first let me say happy birthday to
3:13:31
these people on behalf of everyone here at
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the best podcast in the universe.
3:13:35
♪ It's your birthday, yeah ♪ Let me
3:13:36
do that health karma for her right away.
3:13:39
You've got karma.
3:13:40
There we go, because we do have a
3:13:43
title change here.
3:13:44
I'm gonna read the note first.
3:13:45
This is Richard of Tasmania.
3:13:49
He says, Adam and John, thanks for accepting
3:13:51
Australian dollar dues as real money.
3:13:56
You do a better job than our useless
3:13:58
government by respecting our dodgy currency that way.
3:14:01
I'm a recurring producer in your show and
3:14:03
I've earned enough to experience to be a
3:14:04
level two knight.
3:14:06
Benefits include a healthy amygdala, increased resistance to
3:14:08
propaganda and improved ability to detect gas lighting.
3:14:12
Thank you very much.
3:14:14
So he becomes a, well, it says layaway
3:14:17
title change.
3:14:18
So I'm not sure what he becomes.
3:14:20
Oh, baronet, there we go.
3:14:22
He becomes a baronet.
3:14:23
So let me just, let me, might as
3:14:25
well give you the jingle.
3:14:31
I could have done the whole thing in
3:14:33
the music.
3:14:34
Anyway, thanks very much, Richard of Tasmania.
3:14:36
Congratulations, you are now baronet, Sir Richard of
3:14:40
Tasmania.
3:14:41
And we do have a Commodore coming in
3:14:43
today.
3:14:44
This would be the Archduke of Central Florida
3:14:46
who stepped it up once again.
3:14:48
So we say, congratulations, you are now a
3:14:52
Commodore and you are arriving, sir.
3:14:55
Ooh, very nice.
3:14:57
Commodore, go to noagenderings.com and there's a
3:15:00
tab there, a menu item.
3:15:02
You can give us the address and the
3:15:04
actual title, but I think it will be
3:15:06
Commodore Archduke of Central Florida.
3:15:08
Let us know for sure.
3:15:09
We'll get it out to you as soon
3:15:10
as possible.
3:15:10
They're very, very handsome.
3:15:16
Hey, we got the North Georgia Monthly Meetup
3:15:22
at six o'clock today at Cherry Street
3:15:24
Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.
3:15:25
We have the Columbia River Basin Monthly Tri
3:15:28
-Cities Meetup seven o'clock tomorrow at Ty's
3:15:31
Bar and Grill in West Richland, Washington.
3:15:34
On Saturday, at one every single day, the
3:15:37
Magic 33 Toverland Meetup.
3:15:39
Oh, this is in Zevenum, the Netherlands.
3:15:41
It's, is that during the, oh, that's at
3:15:44
10 o'clock in the morning.
3:15:46
Bring your, bring your alcohol, I guess.
3:15:51
Toverland, Toverlam II in Zevenum, the Netherlands.
3:15:54
Okay, 10 o'clock in the morning.
3:15:55
Also on Saturday, this time in California, all
3:15:58
aboard the flight of the NOA Agenda Meetup,
3:16:00
number 61, Leo Bravo's organizing at Santa Fe
3:16:03
Express Cafe in Fullerton, California.
3:16:06
The Hipsters, Trolls, and Producers of NOA Agenda
3:16:08
Brooklyn Meetup in Brooklyn, New York at Wing
3:16:11
Bar.
3:16:12
That's, definitely check that out on Saturday, 3
3:16:14
.33 Eastern time.
3:16:16
Also on Saturday, the Central Ohio Really Late
3:16:19
St. Paddy's Day Meetup, that's very late, 5
3:16:21
.30 at Dempsey's in Columbus, Ohio.
3:16:24
And finally, on our next show day, Sunday,
3:16:27
the TMI EVAC Zone Crossword Puzzle Meetup.
3:16:30
You'll be doing crossword puzzles, apparently.
3:16:31
3.30 p.m. at Evergrain Brewing in
3:16:34
Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
3:16:35
And I got a promo here.
3:16:37
Dad, what's a six-letter word for party
3:16:39
-like experience?
3:16:41
Hmm, try meetup.
3:16:42
Speaking of meetups, there's a TMI EVAC Zone
3:16:45
Crossword Puzzle Meetup, Sunday, March 28th at Evergrain
3:16:48
Brewing Company at 3.33 p.m. Hope
3:16:51
to see everyone there to solve this NOA
3:16:53
Agenda crossword puzzle.
3:16:54
What's a nine-letter word for a father
3:16:56
who exploits his human resources?
3:16:59
Douchebag!
3:17:01
Okay, thanks for the promo.
3:17:03
Go to noagendameetups.com.
3:17:05
That's where you can find the entire overview
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of all meetups, calendar view, list view.
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It's like a party.
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Yo, yo.
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So are you back to regular ISOs now?
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You're no longer doing the AI stuff?
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Are you?
3:17:51
This time it's a split.
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Let's see what you got.
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Okay, hold on a second.
3:17:56
I got to correct some of the volumes
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on these because some of the volumes are
3:18:00
way off.
3:18:01
Yeah, here's what I got.
3:18:01
Yeah, that's a great one.
3:18:04
I got this one.
3:18:06
Vom for all, all for Vom.
3:18:08
That was kind of cute.
3:18:10
And then this one.
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Bye Adam, bye John.
3:18:15
Not really an ISO, but.
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No.
3:18:18
Okay, what do you got?
3:18:19
Here's a real one.
3:18:20
A real one?
3:18:21
This is the A, too much.
3:18:29
It was not good enough.
3:18:30
It's not too much.
3:18:31
And then here is the, this is a
3:18:33
meta.
3:18:34
Meta?
3:18:35
Yeah, this is a meta clip and you'll
3:18:38
hear why.
3:18:39
I may be fake, but that show was
3:18:40
real and great.
3:18:44
What happened?
3:18:45
I may be fake, but that show was
3:18:50
real and great.
3:18:53
I'm so torn about this.
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Oh, oh, oh no, he's torn.
3:18:59
It is time for John C.
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Dvorak's tip of the day, everybody.
3:19:04
Great advice for you and me.
3:19:06
Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.
3:19:12
I'll use it, though.
3:19:12
Created by Dana Burnetti.
3:19:13
I'll use it, I'll use it.
3:19:16
Okay, this is, I got this from two
3:19:18
different people.
3:19:20
Oh.
3:19:21
And, which is always like a sign.
3:19:23
First time I looked at it, I said,
3:19:24
no, no, no.
3:19:25
Then I started really looking at it.
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And I said, holy mackerel, this is actually
3:19:29
pretty phenomenal.
3:19:31
Okay.
3:19:31
But you have to dig, you have to
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go down because all the top, this is
3:19:35
called, this is a, I don't even know
3:19:36
where they got this top level domain, but
3:19:39
the site is tv.garden. tv.garden. I
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want you to go to this.
3:19:50
Now, it has TV shows from every country
3:19:55
in the world and it has almost everything
3:19:58
that you can imagine.
3:19:59
You can click on the map, you can
3:20:02
scroll down.
3:20:03
There's a lot of different ways of doing
3:20:04
it.
3:20:04
The map, you can spin it around the
3:20:06
globe.
3:20:11
And most of the stuff at the top,
3:20:13
like for example, you go to the United
3:20:14
States, the first 10 things at the top
3:20:16
are all religious programming.
3:20:19
I think there's a bunch of religious stuff,
3:20:21
but no, you dig down, you'd go down
3:20:23
to thousands of stations, including Buena Park Television,
3:20:28
for example, but I want you to do
3:20:30
this.
3:20:31
Go to, either go to the map.
3:20:33
I'm at the map.
3:20:34
Okay, hit Canada.
3:20:36
Okay, I'm gonna hit Canada so hard they
3:20:39
won't know what hit them.
3:20:40
Yep.
3:20:41
Okay, now go to the, on the side,
3:20:43
you see there's two things in Canada.
3:20:44
One is Afghan Nobel movies.
3:20:47
There's a bunch of movies, there's Afghanistan because
3:20:49
it's alphabetical, so every country's got that.
3:20:52
Click on the second one, Afghan Nobel TV.
3:20:55
Okay.
3:20:58
Hacked by Cyber Dragons team, it says.
3:21:02
Yeah.
3:21:03
What is that?
3:21:04
The page has been hacked.
3:21:06
The whole page has been hacked.
3:21:07
And overrun by some group.
3:21:10
Interesting.
3:21:11
Yeah.
3:21:12
Barney the Dinosaur.
3:21:14
Wow, this is pretty cool.
3:21:17
It's unbelievable.
3:21:19
Wow.
3:21:20
How do they even, how do they even
3:21:21
get away with this?
3:21:23
Therein lies the rub.
3:21:25
I do not believe this site is legal.
3:21:28
I don't think so either.
3:21:30
They have everything from every country, every imaginable
3:21:34
TV feed is on this site.
3:21:37
So you can watch, they have Milwaukee's local
3:21:39
station.
3:21:40
They have everything in Canada.
3:21:44
I didn't even know half this stuff exists.
3:21:45
They have every BBC channel, plus stuff in
3:21:48
England I've never heard of.
3:21:50
It's just a great site.
3:21:52
This is a fabulous tip.
3:21:54
Do they have a Korean, the Korean news
3:21:57
lady?
3:21:59
North Korea?
3:22:00
That's a good question.
3:22:01
I don't know if they do.
3:22:01
Yeah, yeah, North Korea.
3:22:02
We got North Korea, here we go.
3:22:03
North Korean Central TV.
3:22:07
I got bars and tone on Pyongyang.
3:22:12
That is an amazing tip.
3:22:14
I'm now, you thought I was deep into
3:22:17
my code.
3:22:18
I'm going to be playing with this for
3:22:19
the rest of the day.
3:22:21
That is amazing.
3:22:22
They just got North Korea, Korean Central Television.
3:22:25
What a great tip.
3:22:26
Another fantastic tip, John.
3:22:28
You have outdone yourself.
3:22:30
I mean, every single time it just keeps
3:22:32
on getting better.
3:22:32
You're like a fine wine, my friend.
3:22:35
Yeah.
3:22:35
The fine wine of tips.
3:22:37
It is John C.
3:22:37
Vorex, tip of the day, tipsoftheday.net, noagendafund
3:22:40
.com.
3:22:41
Great advice for you and me.
3:22:44
Just a tip with JCD.
3:22:48
And sometimes Adam.
3:22:50
Created by Dana Brunetti.
3:22:52
Well now, you've outdone yourself on that one.
3:22:57
And of course the question is, did you
3:23:01
click on all the A's and the B's
3:23:02
before you finally got to Canada to find
3:23:04
that hack channel?
3:23:06
Is that what you were doing with your
3:23:07
time?
3:23:07
That was just a random walk.
3:23:09
I hit the hack channel by accident.
3:23:11
Wow.
3:23:12
Amazing.
3:23:14
That concludes our broadcast day for today.
3:23:17
But we will be very delighted to come
3:23:19
back and do it all again for you
3:23:21
on Sunday.
3:23:22
Clearly with more stuff.
3:23:25
More stuff.
3:23:26
There's lots of stuff.
3:23:27
And your favorite place for world news.
3:23:31
NOAGENDA World News Service will return on Sunday.
3:23:35
And the show mix is coming up from
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Professor Jay Jones.
3:23:39
We've got, oh, Bo's Music.
3:23:42
He's got a cool little ditty he ever
3:23:44
hacked together.
3:23:45
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Coming to you from the heart of the
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Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg.
3:23:59
In the morning, everybody.
3:24:00
I'm Adam Curry.
3:24:01
Down from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain.
3:24:03
And it looks like it might rain.
3:24:05
I'm John C.
3:24:06
Dvorak.
3:24:06
Remember us at NOAGENDADONATIONS.COM and make it
3:24:09
great for Sunday.
3:24:10
We'll see you then.
3:24:11
Until then, adios, mofos.
3:24:13
Hui, hui, and such.
3:24:16
The strength that we have is in this
3:24:17
moment.
3:24:18
And what are you doing in this moment?
3:24:20
Elon Musk is a Nazi.
3:24:22
Oh, the in this moment.
3:24:23
There's some kind of mental illness thing going
3:24:24
on here.
3:24:25
This doesn't make any sense.
3:24:26
What is this all about?
3:24:29
In this moment.
3:24:30
Bullets are being fired.
3:24:31
Charging stations are put ablaze.
3:24:33
Teslas are being put ablaze.
3:24:35
What is the op here?
3:24:37
What are they trying to accomplish?
3:24:39
I don't feel good in this moment.
3:24:40
How do you feel in this moment?
3:24:41
Are you guys that lost?
3:24:43
Does it really come down to the basic?
3:24:45
What it all comes down to.
3:24:47
Really what this comes down to.
3:24:49
It baffles me.
3:24:50
You said everything's fine.
3:24:51
Fine, fine, fine.
3:24:54
Is that what it comes down to?
3:24:56
What is the best way to avoid war?
3:24:58
Europe must get ready for war.
3:25:01
These people are trying to kill us.
3:25:03
She's making this up as she goes along.
3:25:06
It's grassroots too, grassroots.
3:25:08
Grassroots non-violent.
3:25:09
There is no conspiracy.
3:25:11
There is no well-funded cabal.
3:25:13
Volkswagen is retooling one of their closed factories.
3:25:17
I mean like really friendly fire.
3:25:19
All out warmonger.
3:25:22
It's what this moment requires.
3:25:23
You got that part right.
3:25:25
Does it really come down to the basic?
3:25:27
What it all comes down to.
3:25:29
Really what this comes down to.
3:25:30
It baffles me.
3:25:32
You said everything's fine.
3:25:33
Fine, fine, fine.
3:25:35
Is that what it comes down to?
3:25:36
Let's go, let's go, let's go.
3:25:38
Meanwhile, Dr. Ewell will do bad things.
3:25:44
Stay in your homes, I repeat.
3:25:47
Stay in your homes.
3:25:48
Your personal safety, the safety of the entire
3:25:51
city depends upon your full cooperation with the
3:25:54
military authorities.
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