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I don't understand why they don't think I'm
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a girl.
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Devorah.
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It's Thursday, July 3rd, 2025.
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This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation Media
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Assassination Episode 1778.
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This is no agenda.
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Counting the magic minutes and broadcasting live from
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the heart of the Texas Hill Country here
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in FEMA Region Number 6 in the morning,
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everybody.
0:23
I'm Adam Curry.
0:24
And from northern Silicon Valley, where all our
0:27
fireworks were destroyed.
0:29
I'm John C.
0:30
Devorah.
0:31
This is Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
0:34
Yeah, man, did you see that thing blow?
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Yeah.
0:37
That was crazy.
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Yeah.
0:39
You know, I have a firework explosion story
0:42
from when I was, I want to say
0:45
11.
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Well, before you tell the story, we should
0:48
mention what we're talking about.
0:50
You brought it up, you should mention it.
0:53
We have a warehouse, I guess, in Yolo
0:55
County, a little town.
0:57
Yolo.
0:58
And it blew up completely.
1:01
Taken out most of the fireworks.
1:03
So half the fireworks displays in California won't
1:06
be happening.
1:07
Now it killed seven people, but the seven
1:10
people are just basically missing.
1:12
I didn't even know that part.
1:14
That sucks.
1:15
Yeah.
1:15
By missing, we mean...
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Blown to smithereens.
1:19
Yeah, smithereens.
1:20
Yeah.
1:21
I think I was 11, and this is
1:24
in Holland.
1:24
My, this was for, they don't have a
1:28
4th of July, obviously.
1:30
They do have New Year's.
1:31
And in the Netherlands, New Year's, everybody...
1:33
They don't have a 4th of July.
1:34
They go from July 3rd to July 5th.
1:36
They just skip right over it.
1:38
It's just done.
1:39
It's like they eliminated it from the calendar.
1:42
So New Year's Eve, of course, New Year's,
1:44
they go nuts.
1:45
I mean, anyone's ever been in the Netherlands,
1:47
it's nuts.
1:48
And it's two weeks before and two weeks
1:50
after.
1:51
Everybody's just so jacked about their fireworks.
1:53
Because in good socialist manner, that's the only
1:56
time of the year when you can just
1:58
go nuts.
1:59
Everything else is shut up, slaves, sit down
2:02
and listen to what, do what you're told.
2:05
So I was with a friend and his
2:06
family.
2:07
And they, this is like a little, kind
2:09
of like a vacation park where you have
2:11
little bungalows.
2:13
And so there were loft beds, and we
2:15
were up on the loft bed.
2:16
And of course, we had a box of
2:17
fireworks.
2:18
Like, yeah, yeah, let's take a look at
2:20
the fireworks.
2:20
We'd be looking at the fireworks, looking at
2:22
the firecrackers, you know, looking at them.
2:24
And it was me, my buddy, you know,
2:26
11-year-old friend from school, and his
2:28
younger brother.
2:30
And so I'm like, hey, watch this.
2:34
And so I lit a little lady finger.
2:36
And I'm like, oh, pull the fuse out.
2:38
Well, of course, flash fuse.
2:40
Thing blows up right into the box of
2:43
fireworks.
2:43
And that stuff goes off.
2:47
And it's mayhem in this little house.
2:50
It was a relatively small box.
2:53
And, you know, luckily some guys came in
2:55
and they, you know, they doused water on
2:58
it.
2:58
But the place was pretty much smoke-ridden
3:01
destroyed.
3:02
And we blamed it on the little brother.
3:04
And that was pretty awesome.
3:06
We got away with it mostly.
3:09
But it kind of put me in a
3:11
different perspective of fireworks.
3:15
I'm not such a fan anymore.
3:18
And that's my story.
3:20
That's a decent story.
3:22
Yeah.
3:23
Yeah.
3:23
I still usually didn't lose an eye.
3:25
No, no, no, no.
3:26
There's no injury.
3:27
But man, to this day, I still kind
3:30
of feel bad about playing with the kids.
3:32
And we convinced them, like, yeah, yeah.
3:34
And I did that.
3:36
They were the worst.
3:38
So as we speak on this Thursday at
3:41
a little after one o'clock in the
3:43
Central Time Zone, the big beautiful bill is
3:46
being voted on.
3:47
Everyone's losing their health care.
3:49
We're all going to die.
3:50
We're going to there's going to be no
3:51
money left.
3:52
We got the deficit for our children, our
3:55
grandchildren, our children's children.
3:56
You've got your four boxes up there.
3:58
Jeffrey's finally stopped talking.
4:00
Finally, finally.
4:02
So, so far, I think he set a
4:04
record.
4:04
He went nine hours or something.
4:06
Yuck, yuck.
4:06
Well, I actually got a an interesting analysis
4:10
from CNN of all places about this magic
4:14
minute that he was going for.
4:16
Because apparently to go a little bit longer
4:20
than what was the Republican who did it
4:23
last?
4:24
What's his name?
4:26
He used to be speaker, the Speaker of
4:27
the House guy got kicked out.
4:31
Come on.
4:32
McCarthy?
4:33
Yeah, McCarthy.
4:34
He went for eight hours and so many
4:36
minutes.
4:36
And this was the magic minute.
4:37
Will he make it longer?
4:39
But CNN had an uncharacteristically good analysis of
4:45
what is going on.
4:46
Because none of this is about the bill.
4:48
It's all about the midterms.
4:51
It's all about the Democrats wanting to win
4:55
a majority in the Senate, in the House.
4:57
And no one cares about you, America.
4:59
This is the big secret.
5:01
Not the Republicans, not the Democrats.
5:04
They all care about winning in the midterms.
5:07
Seven hours and counting on the right side
5:10
of your screen.
5:11
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries still holding the
5:15
floor, delivering a marathon speech in opposition to
5:17
President Trump's massive agenda bill.
5:20
Republicans are poised to pass that bill despite
5:23
his efforts there.
5:25
But will Jeffrey's magic minute give Democrats some
5:28
renewed energy as they plot their course forward?
5:32
That is certainly what they're hoping.
5:34
My panel is back.
5:36
Isaac, you have covered Hakeem Jeffries for-
5:38
A long time.
5:39
Many years.
5:41
Take us inside the strategy that we're seeing
5:43
play out right now.
5:44
Yeah, I think it's less important for him
5:46
to beat the Kevin McCarthy record here at
5:49
1.30 or whatever point he'll pass that
5:50
than what he actually has already achieved, which
5:54
is that this vote was supposed to happen
5:56
between 6 and 8 a.m., when few
5:59
people would have been awake or paying attention
6:00
to it.
6:01
It will now happen at some point in
6:03
the middle of the day when more people
6:05
are paying attention to it.
6:06
And within that is an effort to really
6:11
specifically call out Republican members of Congress in
6:16
districts that the Democrats are going to go
6:20
after quite hard next year.
6:21
It started yesterday.
6:23
The Democrats, before the voting began, did an
6:25
event on the steps of the Capitol.
6:27
And he's picked up on this in his
6:29
speech saying about Rob Bresnahan in Pennsylvania or
6:33
Young Kim in California.
6:35
These members that, again, they want to go
6:37
after and saying these are the number of
6:39
their constituents that are going to lose their
6:42
health coverage, lose their nutritional assistance, all these
6:45
sorts of things.
6:46
And that, again, happening in the middle of
6:49
the day rather than before most people had
6:52
breakfast or were out of bed is what
6:55
the objective is.
6:57
Yes.
6:58
The whole idea is to scare everybody that
7:00
you're going to lose your health care.
7:03
Hold on a second.
7:04
Do they think that anybody is, oh, we're
7:07
going to delay it till afternoon.
7:08
So more people.
7:10
Nobody's paid.
7:10
Nobody who who's who's the people they're talking
7:13
about that are going to be paying attention
7:15
in the afternoon and aren't going to be
7:17
paying attention at six in the morning?
7:18
No, you're correct.
7:19
It's really because CNN doesn't want to have
7:22
to do all this crap in the middle
7:23
of the night.
7:23
Could you guys please move that to the
7:25
afternoon so we can grab our clips?
7:27
Then we don't want to have to get
7:28
up early.
7:29
And that's more like it.
7:31
Yes, of course.
7:32
And here is even play some a little
7:35
mini cut of the clips we shall discuss.
7:38
OK, so you mentioned some of the what
7:41
they consider the moderate Republicans that they are
7:44
going after.
7:45
I want to play kind of a mashup
7:47
of some of what we are hearing from
7:49
the past.
7:50
It's called a super clip, a super cut
7:52
or a mini cut.
7:53
In your case, it's not a mashup.
7:55
Seven hours of mashup.
7:56
Listen carefully to one example of exactly what
7:59
Isaac was talking about.
8:01
His fellow New Yorker Nick Lulota, who is
8:04
a Republican from who knows if it's a
8:07
swing district, but they certainly hope so in
8:09
the Democratic Party.
8:10
Listen, I'm going to take my time and
8:13
ensure that the American people fully understand how
8:18
damaging this bill will be to their quality
8:22
of life as a result of the lack.
8:26
Of health care that will result directly from
8:30
this one big, ugly bill, people in America,
8:33
by the way, weak, is that all you
8:36
could come up with is big, ugly bill.
8:38
That's the only you couldn't come up with
8:40
a better acronym of health care that will
8:43
result directly from this one big, ugly bill.
8:48
People in America will die on necessary.
8:53
Mr. Speaker, in New York's first congressional district,
8:57
represented by our colleague, Congressman Nick Lulota, people
9:01
will die.
9:03
Approximately 50,000 will die.
9:07
New Yorkers will lose their health care.
9:10
It's a crime scene.
9:11
It's a crime scene.
9:12
Going after the health and the safety and
9:15
the well-being of the American people.
9:17
And Mr. Speaker, we want no part of
9:19
it.
9:20
No one, no part of the crime scene.
9:21
So the whole idea is you're going to
9:24
die.
9:25
And this and this works, by the way.
9:27
You know, I thought it was more fun
9:29
personally when I think when Mitt Romney was
9:32
running, when it was or when it was
9:36
the midterm and like, they're going to kill
9:38
granny.
9:39
And then, you know, the the commercials of
9:42
Republicans pushing an old granny in a wheelchair
9:44
off the cliff, that was great.
9:46
That was creative.
9:47
This is just in.
9:50
But of course, as even CNN will point
9:52
out, this is all about the clips.
9:55
So I totally take your point about him
9:57
wanting this to be a vote in the
9:59
light of day and not early in the
10:01
morning and about these stories to be playing
10:03
out.
10:03
But we all know how people consume information.
10:06
It's about clips.
10:07
So now they are building a set of
10:10
clips with all of these examples, which I
10:12
am sure we will see in various places
10:14
to try to make.
10:15
Where's the mashup?
10:17
That was that was the mashup with a
10:20
mashup.
10:20
She placed two lone clips or even one
10:23
that three, three.
10:25
It was three.
10:25
It was no good.
10:26
It was not a mashup.
10:27
It was nothing.
10:29
It was crap.
10:30
That was from earlier because they had to
10:32
have the intern do it because no one
10:34
wants to work early.
10:35
So they're hoping to get some stuff done
10:37
around noon, will you?
10:38
So we can get it done then.
10:40
Lives a little bit more difficult.
10:41
Right.
10:41
I think what happens after the bill passes
10:44
is the president and his allies have to
10:47
sell the bill and Democrats have to continue
10:51
what they've been doing.
10:52
They have actually done a relatively good job.
10:54
Again, it's not about the bill.
10:56
It's about the midterms.
10:58
Despite their many challenges right now, but Democrats
11:01
have actually done a relatively good job of
11:03
driving the message, which is a fairly easy
11:05
message to drive that this is a tax
11:07
cut for the rich that will take benefits
11:11
away from the poor.
11:13
And they are selling that.
11:15
It is showing up in polling.
11:17
The president and his team have to figure
11:19
out how to say, no, that's not it.
11:22
This is a working class tax cut.
11:24
And the thing about our information environment is
11:27
it's going to take repetition.
11:29
It's going to take repetition for the Democrats.
11:30
It's going to take repetition from President Trump
11:33
and Republicans.
11:34
President Trump does have the advantage of being
11:36
sort of a broken record.
11:37
He's very good at repetition and was talking
11:40
to a Republican consultant today who said, yeah,
11:43
you're going to hear him talking about this
11:45
a lot.
11:47
So it's so obvious what they want to
11:50
do here because these things don't even go
11:52
into effect until in fact until after the
11:54
midterms.
11:56
So they're going you're going to be this
11:58
is going to be thrown at us day
12:00
in, day out.
12:01
They're taking away your nutritional benefits.
12:04
They're taking away your Medicaid.
12:06
You're going to die.
12:07
Your health care, your health care.
12:09
I mean, we can discuss we can talk.
12:13
We can let the other side talk on
12:15
NPR, the New York Republican.
12:18
I also did just go through the bill
12:20
and not just the the health care parts.
12:25
But there's a lot of other interesting stuff
12:27
in there.
12:28
I'm sure there's more interesting stuff in there
12:30
that they're never going to talk about.
12:33
Oh, yes.
12:33
I mean, if you just want to understand
12:34
the Medicaid provisions and man, there was so
12:38
much so many psyops going on, the Democrats
12:41
introduced some kind of crazy amendment that's you
12:46
know, that that would keep illegals on the
12:52
on Medicaid.
12:55
And it was like it was worded.
12:57
It was worded in a way that when
12:59
the amendment got voted down, it looked like
13:01
the Republicans wanted to have illegal immigrants on
13:04
Medicaid.
13:05
And there were some like the former Newsweek
13:08
lady.
13:09
What's her name?
13:09
Batch of it.
13:10
She forget her name.
13:12
She was like, I can't believe it.
13:13
I can't believe the Republicans want to have
13:15
illegal immigrants and health care.
13:17
I'm just going on and on.
13:19
And they fell for it.
13:20
It was then Roseanne.
13:21
They fell for it.
13:23
Well, before you do your analysis, I have
13:26
the clips from NPR.
13:29
Oh, the one with the Republican from New
13:32
York?
13:32
No, no.
13:33
OK, all right.
13:34
No, these are no, I do.
13:35
I have this.
13:35
I have four clips from NPR.
13:37
One is the update, but then it's followed
13:38
by three clips where they brought in experts
13:42
to slam the bill, slam it, rail against
13:45
it.
13:47
And there was no again on NPR.
13:49
There was no balance.
13:50
There was nobody on the other side saying,
13:52
well, there's this the good side is this,
13:54
this and this.
13:54
No, no, no, no.
13:55
It was just slam, slam, slam, slam, slam,
13:59
which is, you know.
14:00
And by the way, in between all that,
14:03
they keep playing this.
14:05
They keep playing this one NPR missive about,
14:09
oh, my God, they're taking our money away.
14:12
They say that we're biased.
14:13
Oh, let's play this right off the bat
14:16
to start to start this thing of this
14:18
public media funding lament this.
14:20
They play this every hour.
14:23
And on NPR, the House of Representatives has
14:25
approved a White House request to claw back
14:28
two years of previously approved funding for public
14:31
media.
14:32
The rescissions package now moves on to the
14:34
Senate.
14:35
This move poses a serious threat to local
14:37
stations and public media as we know it.
14:41
Please take a stand for public media today
14:43
at go ACPR dot org.
14:46
Thank you.
14:47
Hey, do you have that xylophone still?
14:50
Plum, plum, plum, plum, plum.
14:52
Don't you have a xylophone somewhere?
14:53
I never had a xylophone.
14:55
I thought you or someone something.
14:57
Oh, no.
14:57
I know what you mean.
14:58
Yeah.
14:58
That little electronic device.
15:01
Yeah.
15:04
The batteries are dead.
15:05
OK.
15:05
The batteries are dead.
15:07
You know, it's just the way it goes.
15:08
Yeah.
15:09
So that so they're playing this all.
15:11
It's supposedly 1 percent.
15:13
And they're whining about this 1 percent.
15:14
OK.
15:15
What's the what's that website address at the
15:17
end?
15:19
ACPR dot org.
15:22
Go ACPR.
15:23
ACPR.
15:24
Go ACPR.
15:25
Go ACPR.
15:28
That's not a that's it was confused.
15:30
Oh, here's public radio is fighting to survive.
15:33
We need to.
15:33
Oh, it just changed.
15:35
American Coalition for Public Radio.
15:37
Oh, oh, go take action.
15:41
I'm taking action.
15:43
Public action is in jeopardy, is in jeopardy.
15:46
Who are these?
15:46
Who are these guys in jeopardy?
15:48
Jeopardy 1 percent.
15:50
If this if they said they told us
15:52
it was 1 percent.
15:53
Yes.
15:54
So how does that make it in jeopardy?
15:56
I'm taking action.
15:57
I don't care what you say.
15:58
I'm taking action.
16:00
Dear lawmaker, public radio brings music, the arts
16:03
and local culture into our homes.
16:05
We don't need any of that.
16:06
We got the Internet.
16:07
We got tick tock.
16:08
Cutting funding would erase programs that enrich your
16:11
communities and support creative voices.
16:15
Tick tock people with blue hair.
16:17
Please protect the federal funding that makes this
16:19
possible.
16:20
Oppose rescission.
16:22
Rescission.
16:24
Rescission.
16:25
What an odd word.
16:25
Rescission.
16:28
Why was that?
16:29
Rescission.
16:30
Rescission.
16:31
The act of rescinding the cancellation of a
16:33
contract.
16:34
Rescission.
16:35
That's not great marketing.
16:37
Oppose rescission today and save local.
16:40
Local public radio.
16:42
Oh, you can submit a video message.
16:46
Yes.
16:46
This is a break the glass moment.
16:51
Says that.
16:52
Yeah.
16:52
Public radio faces the biggest threat in its
16:55
history.
16:55
One percent.
16:56
One percent.
16:57
They said so themselves.
16:59
Share a personalized message voicing your support now.
17:03
Oh, just so you know, the proposal to
17:07
eliminate federal funding, including a new plan to
17:10
rescind previously approved funding, threaten to dismantle the
17:15
very infrastructure that keeps 99 percent of Americans
17:19
informed, safe and connected.
17:22
I dispute that.
17:25
I would say the Internet keeps 99 percent
17:28
of Americans misinformed, safe and connected.
17:32
Yeah.
17:32
Anyway.
17:33
Okay.
17:33
So, well, that was fun.
17:35
I'm glad you caught that.
17:38
So we can skip the update and go
17:41
to the slams.
17:42
Slam.
17:44
Okay.
17:45
This will be BBB updates.
17:47
Slam one.
17:48
Policy bill passed the Senate.
17:50
It's now being considered in the House.
17:52
It would cut trillions of dollars in taxes,
17:54
mostly for the well off to help offset
17:56
that.
17:56
It would also make the biggest cuts to
17:58
the social safety net in decades.
18:00
Is that a class?
18:01
The well off?
18:02
Is that if you're well, I haven't heard
18:04
that term probably for 20 years.
18:06
The well off.
18:07
That is kind of interesting.
18:08
The well off.
18:09
The well, you know, well to do.
18:11
Yes.
18:11
The rich.
18:12
The well off.
18:13
You're well off.
18:14
Hey, boy, you're well off.
18:16
You mean like Brook Gladstone, who makes $370
18:19
,000 a year just for hosting This American
18:22
Life?
18:23
Once a week show?
18:25
No, no, it's not Brook Gladstone.
18:27
That's, is that Brook Gladstone?
18:31
No, Brook Gladstone does it on the media.
18:33
Yeah, yeah.
18:33
Who does This American Life?
18:34
She makes $370,000 a year just for
18:37
hosting that show.
18:39
And that's good money.
18:40
It's great money.
18:41
That's what you want that 1% for.
18:43
You know what you are when you have
18:44
that kind of money?
18:46
Well off is what I would say.
18:47
You're well off.
18:47
You're well off, yes.
18:48
Policy bill passed the Senate.
18:50
It's now being considered in the House.
18:52
It would cut trillions of dollars in taxes,
18:54
mostly for the well off to help offset
18:56
that.
18:56
It would also make the biggest cuts to
18:58
the social safety net in decades.
19:00
Hold on, stop.
19:02
So if everybody's paying taxes and taxes are
19:06
cut by, like, let's say 2%, it's going
19:12
to benefit the richest people the most because
19:15
they're paying the most taxes.
19:17
Which is logical.
19:18
Oh, why are you trying to refute this?
19:20
This is not even, this is beneath you.
19:22
Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry for interrupting my
19:25
own clip.
19:26
This is beneath you.
19:27
It's to things like food aid.
19:29
And here's Jennifer Ludden.
19:30
To walk us through the latest.
19:32
Hi there.
19:32
Hi there.
19:33
Jennifer, NPR has reported a lot on changes
19:36
to Medicaid, which provides health care for some
19:38
70 million low-income elderly and disabled Americans.
19:43
That's you, John.
19:44
Scaling it back has been controversial even among
19:46
congressional Republicans.
19:48
Can you just briefly explain to us what's
19:50
included in the Senate bill?
19:51
Please.
19:51
Right, and with the reminder, as you said,
19:53
lawmakers in both chambers still have to agree
19:55
on one version.
19:56
But the Senate version would cut Medicaid spending
19:59
even more than the House had by about
20:01
a trillion dollars.
20:03
Now, it's mainly through a new requirement that
20:06
people would have to work at least 80
20:07
hours a month unless they're exempt.
20:10
And over all the- Stop.
20:12
Okay, that's a lie.
20:14
Must work, volunteer, or attend school for at
20:18
least 80 hours a month.
20:20
That's not just must work.
20:22
Yep, yep, yep.
20:22
That is lying by omission.
20:24
Lying by omission, I tell you.
20:27
Yep.
20:28
By the way- Good catch.
20:29
Yes.
20:30
The House version, which I have no idea
20:32
what's going on here, exempts parents of dependent
20:35
children, seniors, and people with disabilities.
20:37
All you.
20:38
So you're exempt.
20:39
That people would have to work at least
20:41
80 hours a month unless they're exempt.
20:43
And over all, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office
20:46
says this package could cause nearly 12 million
20:50
people to lose health insurance over the next
20:52
decade.
20:53
So in my clips, we'll get to the
20:55
CBO.
20:56
Which is, of course, a lot of people.
20:58
I want to turn to some of the
20:59
safety net cuts that haven't gotten as much
21:01
attention, like food benefits.
21:03
Tell us what could happen there.
21:05
Yes, yes.
21:05
So more than 40 million people get food
21:08
stamps, as they're known, or SNAP.
21:10
It's the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
21:13
It would lose 20% of its funding,
21:15
and that's the largest cut in its history.
21:18
Now, this is also partly from a change
21:20
to its existing work requirement.
21:22
The Senate bill bumps up the age people
21:24
have to work by a decade, until age
21:27
65.
21:28
And parents who used to be exempt would
21:30
now have to work if their kids were
21:31
14 or older.
21:33
Now, as with Medicaid, one concern is that
21:35
people would run into red tape trying to
21:37
prove they're working.
21:39
The CBO estimates this change could push more
21:41
than 2 million people off food aid.
21:45
It's incredible what they're doing here.
21:48
When I was 14, I was a latchkey
21:50
kid.
21:50
My mom worked.
21:52
My dad worked.
21:53
Oh, boo.
21:54
Oh, if you have 14-year-old kids,
21:56
let them roam the streets like ragamuffins, like
22:00
ruffians.
22:01
Ragamuffin is another good one.
22:03
Let them roam the streets.
22:05
So you're getting the idea that this is
22:08
not a balanced presentation.
22:10
I think you're correct.
22:11
I think you're correct, yes.
22:12
This is why they're getting their funding pulled,
22:15
because the taxpayer should not be paying for
22:17
biased presentations like this.
22:19
I bitch about this constantly.
22:21
To be fair, the clips that I have
22:23
from NPR do represent the other side, even
22:26
though the host is hemming and hawing throughout
22:30
it.
22:32
Well, there's a difference between finding what you
22:36
found and somebody just making a straight-up
22:39
presentation with no pushback.
22:41
Yes.
22:41
In other words, it's not giving us any
22:46
perspective whatsoever.
22:47
Fox News is fair and balanced.
22:49
Fox News is not much better.
22:51
But I don't think Fox News takes government
22:53
money.
22:53
Maybe they do.
22:54
Who knows?
22:55
Fox News, well, not that I know of
22:57
either.
22:58
Yes, you might be right.
22:59
Okay, onward.
22:59
Okay.
23:00
Now, a couple more things, Fun Food Aid.
23:02
The spending package makes it harder for states
23:04
to waive these work requirements, and conservatives have
23:07
long argued that it's just too easy.
23:09
You've got entire states where they're waived.
23:11
The Senate bill says you could only get
23:12
a waiver if you live in a place
23:14
with an unemployment rate above 10 percent, so
23:17
quite high.
23:17
And finally, for the first time, the federal
23:20
government would not pay for all food aid.
23:23
Most states would have to chip in, which
23:25
sounds like a really big change for states.
23:27
So how does that work?
23:28
Yeah, it's tied to how much states have
23:31
over or underpaid for SNAP.
23:33
Researchers say these error rates are mostly unintentional,
23:36
but it would mean that most states would
23:38
now have to pick up between 5 and
23:40
15 percent of food aid costs.
23:42
Holy moly.
23:43
The left-leaning Center on Budget and Policy
23:45
Priorities says this undermines the whole guarantee that
23:49
people in need should get food aid no
23:51
matter where they live.
23:52
And she says if states faced a budget
23:54
crunch, they might shrink their SNAP program or
23:56
even opt out altogether.
23:58
So this is really a proposal that fundamentally
24:01
changes the structure of SNAP, jeopardizes food assistance
24:04
for millions of low-income families.
24:06
This is the same as you won't have
24:08
access to vaccines.
24:10
It's exactly the same thing.
24:11
And saying health care is like health care
24:15
insurance.
24:16
It's payment for health care.
24:17
You can get health care.
24:19
You can go in any emergency room.
24:21
You will not be turned away, unfortunately.
24:23
This is a very contentious point.
24:27
What do you mean, unfortunately?
24:27
You want people dropping dead in the streets?
24:29
Well, I speak to firefighters all the time,
24:33
and they are obligated at a 911 call
24:36
to go and help these people.
24:39
It's by law, regardless of what it is.
24:42
And it's like, well, I'm, you know, I
24:44
need an aspirin.
24:46
And, you know, it's literally, could you go
24:48
to the, could you grab my cigarettes from
24:49
the table there?
24:50
I'm too obese to get up.
24:52
And if it is anything beyond what they
24:55
have in their kit, I don't even think
24:56
they can give them an aspirin.
24:58
They have to take them to the emergency
25:00
room.
25:00
That is enshrined in state law everywhere.
25:04
That's the problem.
25:05
That's the problem.
25:07
That is one of many problems.
25:09
Firefighters know this, and while doing their job,
25:13
they get shot at and killed.
25:14
So this is dandy.
25:16
And could end SNAP as a nationwide program.
25:19
Jennifer, I want to ask you about something
25:21
that got quite a bit of attention for
25:22
reducing poverty temporarily during the coronavirus pandemic, which
25:25
is the federal child tax credit.
25:28
Any big changes there?
25:30
I guess they're not as big as some
25:31
were calling for during the 2024 election, including
25:34
now Vice President J.D. Vance.
25:36
The Senate bill does boost the tax credit
25:38
from $2,000 per child to $2,200,
25:42
and that would rise with inflation.
25:45
But unlike during the pandemic, lawmakers did not
25:47
expand this to include the lowest income families.
25:50
And currently, they don't qualify for that full
25:53
credit because they just don't earn enough.
25:55
And also, SNAP had a huge industry lobby
25:58
against proposed changes.
25:59
I have not seen, well, I have not,
26:02
if I saw it, it didn't stick with
26:05
me.
26:07
The carbonated drinks, fizzy drinks, the Coca-Colas
26:11
of the world put together a huge lobby
26:15
against taking soft drinks off of SNAP, which
26:20
is kind of a logical thing that, no,
26:22
you shouldn't be able to buy this with
26:24
your supplemental nutrition payments.
26:27
Yeah, you shouldn't be buying cola.
26:30
And in fact, I don't think we talked
26:32
about it much, if at all, but they
26:34
had a huge influencer campaign, which included a
26:37
lot of conservative podcasters and influencers who all
26:41
took money to say, oh, no, no, you
26:43
shouldn't do this.
26:44
You know, really, we need to have this
26:46
on SNAP.
26:47
I'm paraphrasing.
26:48
Oh, yeah, it was a huge thing.
26:50
And then a couple got outed.
26:53
And then all these other conservative, right-leaning
26:57
influencers and podcasters went, yeah, I'm really sorry
27:00
I took that money.
27:01
I shouldn't have done that.
27:03
Then it was thousands of dollars in some
27:04
cases.
27:05
Oh, yeah, this is the dirty side of
27:08
politics.
27:09
That's a scandal what you just said.
27:11
Yeah, well.
27:13
Podcasters selling out.
27:16
What?
27:17
Gambling?
27:20
All right, slam three.
27:23
Yeah.
27:24
Sophie Collier is with the Center on Poverty
27:26
and Social Policy at Columbia University.
27:28
And she says for her, this really reflects
27:30
the overall tilt of this tax and spending
27:33
package in favor of the wealthy.
27:35
Even this small provision that is kind of
27:37
meant to help families is not reaching the
27:41
children and families where it could do the
27:42
most good, where that $200 actually could be
27:46
more meaningful.
27:48
Jennifer, I'll let you have the last word
27:49
here.
27:49
Anything else we should note?
27:51
Yes, another key change to the child tax
27:54
credit.
27:54
At least one parent now would need a
27:56
Social Security number.
27:58
And Collier says by one estimate, that could
28:00
disqualify 2.6 million children who are U
28:03
.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents.
28:06
And I should just add there are provisions
28:08
in the package that would also cut federal
28:10
health care and food benefits for some immigrants
28:13
with legal status.
28:15
All right.
28:15
So that's really what it comes down to.
28:17
Most of this is blue states.
28:20
I'll just run through it quickly.
28:22
So yes, adults age 19 to 64 enrolled
28:25
in Medicaid through the Affordable Care Act expansion,
28:29
which is the expansion to states.
28:31
You have to work, volunteer, or attend school
28:34
for at least 80 hours if you're eligible.
28:37
And exemptions are pregnant women, caregivers of children
28:39
under 14, et cetera.
28:41
Here's a big one.
28:42
The states will have to verify compliance every
28:46
30 days.
28:47
Well, we can't have that.
28:50
Then we have the CBO estimate savings, which
28:55
you can take or leave, increased eligibility, redetermination.
29:00
So that's the verifying ACA expansion enrollees.
29:05
See, the states got all this extra money
29:07
to expand Medicare and they gave it Medicaid
29:10
and they gave it mostly to illegal immigrants.
29:14
And that's what this is cutting out.
29:16
And so now the states will have to
29:18
impose a copayment of $35.
29:22
Okay.
29:23
So I'm not downplaying $35 as being a
29:27
lot or not, but it's hardly you're dead.
29:32
And then the bill limits states' ability to
29:36
impose taxes on health care providers.
29:40
And I'm not quite sure whose side that
29:43
comes from or what that's about.
29:44
I'm not sure.
29:45
That's probably just to screw Democrat states, no
29:48
doubt.
29:51
Then there's new requirements to include monthly verification
29:55
to ensure providers aren't excluded from other state
29:58
Medicaid programs because there's a lot of double
30:00
dipping going on.
30:02
And then there's the specific restrictions, gender affirming
30:07
care, Planned Parenthood, et cetera.
30:10
So that's really what is in there about
30:13
Medicaid.
30:15
And if you look, well, to be fair
30:17
and to be fair and balanced, let's get
30:20
the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez version of this big,
30:24
beautiful bill.
30:26
President Trump, you're either being lied to or
30:29
you are lying to the American people because
30:33
this bill represents in the text of this
30:37
bill, the largest and greatest loss of health
30:40
care in American history.
30:43
Seventeen million Americans will lose their health care.
30:48
This is great.
30:48
I mean, it's always been 11.
30:50
I've heard 12.
30:51
But AOC has 17 now.
30:53
It started actually around five.
30:56
Somebody documented a jacking up every time somebody
30:59
next guy talks, they top the last one.
31:01
This is great.
31:03
History.
31:03
And she was she was she was swinging
31:05
her hips and she was she was getting
31:08
mad.
31:09
Seventeen million Americans will lose their health care
31:12
on this bill.
31:13
Not undocumented people, not, quote, unquote, the disgusting
31:18
term illegal, but 17 million.
31:21
Disgusting term illegal.
31:22
What?
31:23
Why is that disgusting?
31:24
Why is that disgusting?
31:25
Because no person can be illegal.
31:28
Oh, that's right.
31:28
No, no, no human.
31:30
No human is illegal.
31:32
No human can be illegal.
31:33
Unquote.
31:34
The disgusting term illegal.
31:36
But 17 million Americans will have their health
31:40
care Americans from this bill on this point
31:44
of tax on tips as one of the
31:46
only people in this body who has lived
31:48
off of tips.
31:49
I want to tell you a little bit
31:51
about the scam.
31:52
That's pretty telling if that's true.
31:55
If she is the only person in this
31:57
body who lived on tips.
31:59
Let's let's face reality.
32:01
That's probably not true.
32:02
But but I'd like to know how the
32:04
Democrats, when they turn on a dime on
32:07
this, have suddenly forgotten that Kamala made a
32:11
big stink about.
32:12
Yes.
32:13
No tax on tips.
32:14
She introduced it to her platform.
32:16
The Democrats accept it as a platform item.
32:18
But now they're pushing it back on it.
32:21
Well, what so you're telling me they were
32:23
insincere earlier?
32:25
I think so.
32:26
As one of the by the way, the
32:27
bill just passed the House.
32:28
Only people in this body who has lived
32:31
off of tips.
32:32
I want to.
32:32
But I guess the reason we're doing this
32:34
is so that people understand because this doesn't
32:36
come into effect until December of twenty twenty
32:39
six.
32:40
So and that's for a reason.
32:42
This is all going to be midterm jockeying
32:45
for position.
32:46
Yeah, it's fodder.
32:47
It's total fodder.
32:48
As one of the only people in this
32:50
body who has lived off of tips.
32:52
I want to tell you a little bit
32:54
about the scam of that text, a little
32:56
bit of the fine print there.
32:58
The cap on that is twenty five thousand
33:02
dollars.
33:03
That's true.
33:04
That is the cap on taxing your tips
33:07
up to twenty five thousand dollars that she
33:09
has.
33:09
That number.
33:09
Correct.
33:10
While you're jacking up taxes on people who
33:13
make less than fifty thousand dollars across the
33:16
United States.
33:18
That I don't see.
33:19
I don't see where people making less than
33:21
fifty thousand dollars will be paying more in
33:23
taxes.
33:24
I have not seen.
33:25
I don't.
33:26
That's the first I've heard of that.
33:28
I've heard of it.
33:28
While taking away their snap, while taking away
33:32
their Medicaid, while taking kicking them off of
33:34
the ACA and their health care extension.
33:37
No.
33:37
So if you're at home and you're living
33:39
off tips, you do the math.
33:41
Hold on, get your calculator.
33:44
I got to do the math.
33:45
Is that not allowed to do your own
33:46
math and research?
33:47
Worth it to you losing all your health
33:50
care, not able to feed, feed your babies,
33:53
not being able to put a diaper on
33:54
their bottom.
33:55
It specifically says if you have babies or
33:59
one on the way, you're not going to
34:00
get kicked off of anything.
34:02
So that's just not true.
34:03
Losing life.
34:04
That's a lie.
34:05
Your health care, not able to feed, feed
34:07
your babies, not being able to put a
34:09
diaper on their bottom in exchange for what?
34:12
What?
34:13
This bill is a deal with the devil.
34:16
The devil.
34:17
Explodes our national debt.
34:20
Militarizes our entire economy and it strips away.
34:24
By the way.
34:25
OK, first, let me just back up because
34:26
I've read most of this.
34:28
Not all, but I've read most of it.
34:29
The important parts, I think I've got.
34:31
So let's see this.
34:32
Explodes our national debt.
34:34
Actually, it reduces our national debt.
34:37
And I think I can show that over
34:40
10 years.
34:41
And of course, there's a big piece of
34:43
it where we're going to we're going to
34:44
grow faster than the debt.
34:46
OK, sure.
34:47
OK, with President Trump, maybe, maybe.
34:50
I don't know.
34:51
It militarizes our entire economy.
34:53
Yes, that is correct.
34:54
It will militarize our entire economy.
34:57
And that is what every economy in the
34:59
world is doing right now, because the green.
35:02
The entire economy.
35:02
So when I go to the Monterey Foods
35:04
to buy mushrooms.
35:05
That's your militarizing.
35:07
I'm militarizing the mushroom grower.
35:10
What are you talking about?
35:11
No, there's a lot of money for military
35:14
industrial complex.
35:15
No, she said entire economy.
35:17
I know.
35:18
But but there's there's 30 million people minimum
35:21
in this in this deal now.
35:22
So she's not she's exaggerating.
35:26
But there is some truth to it.
35:27
The whole world is.
35:29
That's our new industrial base.
35:31
Yeah, well, dude, she and that's this is
35:33
new.
35:34
Well, no economy.
35:36
And it strips away health care and basic
35:40
dignity of the American people for what?
35:44
No, it doesn't strip away.
35:45
Give Elon Musk a tax break.
35:48
This Elon Musk hates the bill.
35:52
Elon Musk says it's a five trillion dollar
35:55
spending bill.
35:56
He's gone all the way.
35:57
It was two trillion, three trillion.
35:59
Now, Elon Musk is five trillion dollars.
36:01
Do the math at home, people to give
36:03
my calculator doesn't go to trillion.
36:06
Hold on a minute.
36:07
So she's basically not keeping tabs on the
36:12
political situation as Elon Musk.
36:14
No big mistake.
36:16
This is a big mistake.
36:17
She should have said even Elon Musk is
36:20
embarrassed.
36:22
That's what she should have.
36:23
She should have gone with that.
36:24
Yeah.
36:24
Or or mention some other evil person that,
36:28
you know, gets getting the tax break, the
36:30
Trump family or anything.
36:31
But Elon Musk.
36:33
Yeah.
36:33
Fox News, the Murdochs, anything.
36:35
Yeah.
36:35
The Murdoch.
36:36
Oops.
36:37
I'm sorry.
36:38
They're our side.
36:39
Basic dignity of the American people for what?
36:43
To give Elon Musk a tax break and
36:46
billionaires, the greedy taking of our nation.
36:50
We cannot stand for it and we will
36:52
not support it.
36:53
You should be ashamed.
36:55
Ashamed, ashamed, ashamed.
36:57
All right.
36:57
So I'm going to play these quick clips
36:59
here.
36:59
This is the New York representative, Mike Lawler.
37:05
I didn't even know New York had a
37:07
Republican representing them.
37:08
But they do apparently.
37:09
And he goes on NPR and he says,
37:12
you know, CBO is wrong.
37:15
Over the next decade, we're projected to spend
37:17
86 trillion dollars as a country, federal government.
37:22
And we're talking about one point six trillion
37:24
in savings over the course of the 10
37:26
years.
37:27
That amounts to about one point eight percent
37:29
of overall spending.
37:30
So, you know, as we start to bend
37:33
the curve with two trillion dollar deficit, I
37:36
love, you know, everybody bending it like Beckham.
37:40
We're we're not reducing the deficit.
37:42
We're bending the curve.
37:44
You see, I'm bending the curve.
37:46
So this is like a kind of a
37:48
take on a flat curve.
37:51
Yes.
37:51
So now they're going to bend the curve,
37:53
the curve of overall spending.
37:55
So, you know, as we start to bend
37:58
the curve with two trillion dollar deficits, you
38:02
know, everybody, Republicans and Democrats need to get
38:05
serious about tackling our debt.
38:07
Let me just jump in here.
38:09
The Congressional Budget Office found that the spending
38:11
bill would add roughly three trillion dollars to
38:13
the deficit over the next decade.
38:15
So to your mind, are you concerned about
38:17
growing the nation said it sounds like you
38:18
are.
38:18
What should be done?
38:20
So CBO has consistently been wrong in its
38:24
pronouncements, including seven years ago when they undercut
38:28
revenue by a trillion dollars on the Tax
38:31
Cuts and Jobs Act, which we now know
38:34
has produced the largest revenue that the federal
38:37
government has ever seen.
38:39
The question is, how do we start to
38:42
right size our spending where we're running two
38:47
trillion dollar deficits?
38:50
And what you're seeing is over 10 years,
38:53
a reduction in spending by one point six
38:56
trillion dollars.
38:57
You're going to see economic growth, you know,
39:02
two, three, four percent.
39:05
By the way, two, three, four percent is,
39:07
you know, there's a 100 percent difference in
39:10
those numbers.
39:11
So two to four is a big difference.
39:13
But OK, for the life of the bill,
39:15
which is going to be critical, grow our
39:19
economy and start to move things in the
39:21
right direction, reducing our deficits and reining in
39:25
our debt.
39:26
This is a big challenge and something that's
39:29
going to require both parties just to really
39:31
focus on this coming decade.
39:32
Chomping at the bit here.
39:34
Chomp.
39:34
OK, but what about all the people who
39:35
are going to die?
39:36
I want to just jump in here because
39:37
earlier you mentioned some of the concerns that
39:39
you've been discussing, including those around health care
39:41
and Medicaid.
39:42
And she talked.
39:43
Hold on, back it off.
39:44
She's very animated.
39:45
She is a fast talker.
39:47
Yes, this is Juana Summers.
39:50
Juana Summers.
39:51
Bring back, you know, Scott Simon's being inducted
39:53
into the Radio Hall of Fame.
39:56
Did you know that?
39:57
What first first diction?
40:00
I don't know.
40:01
I don't know.
40:02
Let's go back.
40:02
Where are we?
40:03
I want to just jump in here because
40:04
earlier you mentioned some of the concerns that
40:06
you've been discussing, including those around health care
40:08
and Medicaid.
40:09
And there are estimates, according to CBO, that
40:11
maybe they're all doing coke at NPR these
40:13
days.
40:13
I don't know this possible.
40:15
Twelve million people will lose health care coverage,
40:18
including Medicaid coverage.
40:19
If this bill becomes law, Congressman Lawler, given
40:22
that roughly a quarter of the people in
40:24
your district in New York, some 200,000
40:26
people are on Medicaid.
40:27
That's according to KFF.
40:29
I'm going to die.
40:29
Are you concerned about what the cuts enshrined
40:32
in this legislation would mean to the people
40:33
who live in your district?
40:35
Please, again, let's actually focus what's in the
40:38
bill and not what is the Democrat talking
40:40
point.
40:41
The fact is that you have eligibility verification,
40:45
making sure that people who are not supposed
40:48
to be collecting Medicaid benefits are no longer
40:51
receiving those benefits that they're not entitled to.
40:54
Second is citizenship verification to make sure that
40:57
illegal immigrants are not collecting Medicaid benefits.
41:00
Right now you have 1.4 million illegal
41:03
immigrants collecting Medicaid benefits.
41:06
That is wrong, fundamentally.
41:08
And third is work requirements.
41:10
You have nearly 4 million people who are
41:12
able-bodied adults without dependent children who are
41:16
refusing to work.
41:17
They should be trying to get a job,
41:21
to get employment, to go to school or
41:23
to volunteer upwards of 80 hours a month.
41:27
That's about 20 hours a work week to
41:31
help get into the workforce, participate in the
41:35
workforce, and ultimately help themselves because they may
41:39
be able to get an employer-based health
41:42
care plan long-term or be able to
41:44
purchase on the open market.
41:46
But the objective here is to sustain this
41:48
program for the long-term for those who
41:51
need it and those who are eligible for
41:53
it.
41:54
She's just all like...
41:56
Last one.
41:57
And you have seen, and this is important,
42:00
even with these changes, Medicaid spending is going
42:03
to go up 24% over the next
42:06
decade.
42:07
24%.
42:07
So when we're talking about how to strengthen
42:10
the system, this is not about gutting the
42:13
system.
42:13
This is about protecting it for those who
42:15
need it.
42:16
But it's not about that.
42:17
It's all about the midterms.
42:20
Would you like to hear a few other
42:21
things that are in this big, beautiful bill
42:22
that just passed?
42:23
Just a quick little rundown, as we have
42:25
done so often on the No Agenda Show,
42:27
which your NPR local station will not do.
42:32
What?
42:33
I'm saying...
42:34
Yes.
42:35
Ships!
42:36
Big, beautiful ships!
42:38
Ships.
42:39
Yeah, right off the top, baby.
42:40
$250 million for ships!
42:43
That's nothing.
42:44
Ships.
42:45
Well, this is going to be tiny ships,
42:46
but they'll be beautiful ships.
42:47
They got to be pretty tiny because some
42:50
of those new class ships...
42:52
But wait, there's $450 million for additive manufacturing
42:57
for wire production and machining capacity for shipbuilding
43:01
industrial base.
43:03
$492 million for next generation shipbuilding techniques.
43:07
85 techniques.
43:10
I got a technique for you.
43:11
Wow.
43:13
That's a scam.
43:14
$500 million for the adoption of advanced manufacturing
43:17
techniques in the shipbuilding industry.
43:18
There's a lot of money for it.
43:19
So basically...
43:21
Oh, there's another...
43:22
Oh, this is good.
43:23
$4.6 billion for second Virginia class submarines
43:26
in 2026.
43:28
One year is a lot for a sub.
43:30
$5.4 billion for additional guided missile destroyer
43:34
ships.
43:35
Then we have a billion dollars for the
43:37
border for deployment of military personnel.
43:40
And we have $1.142.5 billion for
43:45
the Coast Guard side.
43:46
Can I ask a question?
43:48
Yes.
43:49
Trump shut the border down.
43:51
There's nobody coming over.
43:52
Well, we're still going to spend $46.5
43:55
billion for the wall, but don't worry, Mexico's
43:58
paying for that one.
43:59
So we can just put that aside.
44:01
So wait, nobody's coming over as we speak.
44:04
Yeah, I'm just telling you...
44:09
Because it seems to be working just fine
44:11
the way it is with the expenditures that
44:13
are currently being used to stop the people
44:15
from coming over because they're not coming over
44:17
at all.
44:17
It sounds like a jobs program because it's
44:20
construction, installation, access roads, barrier system, et cetera.
44:26
Here's my favorite.
44:27
Gee, what are the chances that you'd have...
44:32
And by the way, since my point that
44:35
I just made, why don't the Democrats make
44:38
that point?
44:39
Because the only thing they have is you're
44:42
going to die.
44:45
I don't think that's the reason.
44:47
Because to make that point, they have to
44:49
admit that Biden could have done the same
44:52
thing.
44:53
Yeah, well, there is your good point.
44:57
Guess what's in here?
44:59
What did we hear for the past two
45:00
months?
45:01
Oh, oh no, Newark Airport.
45:03
Oh no, oh no.
45:05
Fiber optics, yeah.
45:07
I see $4.7 billion for telecommunications infrastructure,
45:15
$3 billion for radar systems, $500 million for
45:24
runway safety technologies.
45:26
Whatever that is.
45:27
It's a guy with an orange vest.
45:30
No, a guy with a horn telling the
45:31
birds to get off the runway.
45:32
$1.9 billion for necessary actions to construct
45:36
a new air routes traffic control center.
45:39
So now you see how it works.
45:43
That is the sausage being made.
45:45
Create a big fuss about something that all
45:47
of our air traffic controllers say, it's been
45:50
that way forever.
45:51
We work around it nine times a day.
45:54
But okay, I'm sure everybody's happy.
45:56
I'm not against it, obviously.
45:57
But the PSYOP was mean.
46:01
Gas and oil leases.
46:04
So we got a lot of, like the
46:07
Gulf of America, Gulf of America leases for
46:12
oil.
46:13
Coal mining.
46:16
Access to coal reserves in adjacent state or
46:19
private land without authorization could not be mined
46:21
economically.
46:22
Federal coal reserves located in federal land subject
46:25
to a mining plan previously approved.
46:28
Timber on public domain forest reserves will be
46:31
sold off.
46:32
There's an amount here, 250 million board feet.
46:37
Renewable energy.
46:39
This is fun.
46:40
100% fees for solar energy generation facility
46:44
and 10% for wind generation.
46:48
So if you are selling your land or
46:50
leasing your land for solar panels, you will
46:53
have a fee of 100% of something.
46:57
We're going to up the petroleum reserve.
46:59
The American Science Cloud.
47:01
This is my favorite.
47:04
Transformational artificial intelligence models.
47:08
Yeah, baby.
47:10
The cloud means a system of United States
47:12
government academic and private sector programs and infrastructure
47:15
utilizing cloud computing technologies to facilitate and support
47:19
scientific research.
47:21
Dad, I thought we were cutting off all
47:23
research.
47:24
Well, no.
47:25
Turns out the American Science Cloud will be
47:27
a thing.
47:29
Then we do have a lot of things
47:31
for.
47:32
That sounds like a boondoggle.
47:34
That's for for all the tech bros.
47:36
That's what they got.
47:38
Everyone gets something in this.
47:40
Not us.
47:41
What about the podcasting provisions?
47:44
I haven't seen it.
47:46
Committee on Environment and Public Works.
47:48
So recession of funding for clean, heavy duty
47:51
vehicles.
47:52
Goodbye.
47:53
Repeal of greenhouse gas reduction fund.
47:55
Goodbye.
47:56
Recession of funding for diesel emissions reductions.
47:59
Goodbye.
48:00
Recession of funding to address air pollution.
48:03
Recession of funding to address air pollution at
48:06
schools.
48:07
Recession of.
48:07
What?
48:08
Yeah, just air pollution at school.
48:11
Suck it up, kids.
48:12
There's air pollution everywhere.
48:14
You might die.
48:16
Recession of funding for the low emissions electricity
48:18
program.
48:19
Oops.
48:20
Recession of funding for Section 211 of the
48:22
Clean Air.
48:23
It just goes on and on and on.
48:24
So this is all taking away the Green
48:26
New Deal.
48:28
Then we have the child tax credit, which
48:30
will be tied to a Social Security number.
48:34
This is so now for every kid you
48:36
get a.
48:37
But how does a tax credit not get
48:39
tied to a Social Security number?
48:41
I'm going to ask you right now.
48:42
When we have a Democrat president in Congress,
48:45
then it's just it's a free for all,
48:46
I guess.
48:49
So that goes.
48:50
Tax credit is a credit on your income
48:53
taxes.
48:53
Am I not mistaken?
48:54
Yeah, but you know.
48:56
And don't you have to have a Social
48:57
Security number to even file?
48:59
No, that's not true.
49:00
As a illegal immigrant, you can get a
49:03
you get a tax ID number, which is
49:05
not a Social Security.
49:07
OK, it's a good point.
49:08
Good point.
49:08
You got it.
49:09
So this is tied specifically to SSN, and
49:12
it's going to be twenty two hundred dollars
49:14
per child.
49:16
Let me see.
49:17
Oh, here you go, John.
49:18
Good news.
49:20
Extension and enhancement of increased estate and gift
49:23
tax exemption amounts.
49:24
This is what the billionaires get.
49:27
So you can now leave.
49:29
You were allowed to leave five million dollars
49:32
to your heirs.
49:33
But you, of course, need the higher amount
49:36
of 15 million.
49:37
So that's good.
49:39
That really affects me.
49:41
Here, kid is a watch.
49:43
Good luck with it.
49:44
I got a watch.
49:46
At least you're under the number.
49:49
No tax on tips for any taxable year.
49:52
So not exceed twenty five thousand low ceiling
49:56
for no tax on overtime.
49:58
That will be so not exceed twelve and
50:01
a half thousand.
50:02
Then we have the Trump accounts.
50:05
Hold on a second.
50:06
There's another thing I'm complaining about.
50:08
Yeah, they were saying that there's going to
50:10
be no tax on tips, no tax on
50:13
overtime and no tax on Social Security.
50:17
Yeah.
50:17
No, that's just not true.
50:19
The old oldsters on the Social Security thing.
50:23
What happened to that?
50:24
What happened to that?
50:25
I think I actually get to that down
50:27
a little bit further.
50:28
It's not not too much further.
50:29
What I have the Trump accounts that I
50:33
think is the the baby, the baby bonus.
50:37
And I don't even see an amount here.
50:40
Oh, it's.
50:42
Baby doesn't say, oh, I like this one.
50:46
Spaceports and airports.
50:49
Spaceports will be treated like airports under exempt
50:52
facility bond rules.
50:54
I'm not sure what that means.
50:56
Spaceports.
50:57
Well, these guys are getting pretty aggressive with
51:00
things that that's I think that that is
51:03
actually a Bezos and and Musk benefit, I
51:07
think.
51:08
But I'm not sure.
51:09
Oh, yeah.
51:09
When they put their spaceports up, we'll be.
51:12
Yes.
51:13
So here here's one that that got in
51:16
there that for some reason no one's talking
51:18
about excise tax based on investment income of
51:22
private colleges and universities.
51:25
Hey, now.
51:27
Tax impose hereby impose the tax on each
51:30
applicable educational institution, Harvard, Columbia, et cetera, for
51:35
the taxable year, a tax equal to the
51:37
applicable percentage of the net investment come income
51:40
of such institution.
51:42
One point four percent in the case of
51:44
an institution with a student adjusted endowment of
51:47
at least half a million, not in excess
51:49
of seven hundred fifty thousand four percent in
51:53
the case of an institution with a student
51:55
adjusted endowment in excess of seven fifty not
51:57
to exceed two million and eight percent in
52:01
in case of the institution with a student
52:04
adjusted endowment in excess of two million.
52:06
So that's the big boys.
52:08
That sounds like all the big boys all
52:10
of a sudden went from no tax to
52:12
eight percent.
52:14
I can't imagine why they're mad at Trump.
52:17
Well, that.
52:19
Well, again, I think your original point, which
52:23
is why hasn't anyone said anything about this
52:26
because they can bitch and moan because they're
52:29
in they're in the fund.
52:32
There's I think it has to do with.
52:37
Whining about their situation, it sounds like they're,
52:40
you know, it's like NPR whining about losing
52:42
their one percent, it draws attention to the
52:45
problem.
52:46
Ah, that's a good point.
52:49
Vetting of sponsors.
52:51
This is good.
52:52
So if we're going to the Office of
52:54
Refugee Resettlement, the so if you're going to.
52:59
Oh, this is interesting.
53:00
You're going to have kids a very long.
53:01
I'm not going to read all of it,
53:03
but they will have to.
53:04
Vet the sponsors for unaccompanied alien.
53:07
Yes.
53:08
In other words, the ending that is what
53:11
it's doing.
53:11
We're ending that nonsense.
53:13
They're ending the vetting.
53:15
No, no, we're ending the not people weren't
53:17
vetted.
53:18
Yeah, no, they were just giving them to
53:20
two pimps.
53:21
Yeah.
53:21
So we're ending that nonsense.
53:23
Now these people will be the coyotes.
53:27
Then we have asylum fee.
53:29
Here we go.
53:31
In addition to any other fee authorized by
53:33
law, if you want to request and file
53:35
for asylum, you will pay one hundred dollars.
53:39
That doesn't nickel and diming them to death.
53:42
And if you want to be paroled into
53:44
the US, that will cost you a thousand
53:47
dollars.
53:48
So it's setting a bar.
53:50
And you can get citizenship for five to
53:52
five million if you buy one of those
53:54
gold cards.
53:55
I wonder if that's in there.
53:57
I haven't seen it yet.
53:59
And then there's extension of radioactive leukemia related
54:03
to atmospheric atom bomb tests.
54:04
So we're going to pay people some some
54:07
some money for that, as well as people
54:11
who were kind of screwy, were harmed from
54:15
uranium mining.
54:16
And those are the things that we just
54:18
have off the bat with some help from
54:20
one of our producers.
54:20
I will add he categorized it.
54:22
I appreciate that.
54:23
But it seems to me that the that
54:25
the the leukemia from atmospheric testing would have
54:31
been already resolved by now.
54:34
Well, apparently, I know no offense, but I
54:37
think you'd be dead.
54:38
Well, because I was in the 50s.
54:40
Yeah, well, apparently not.
54:42
So so anyway, so there's a lot of
54:45
things in here.
54:46
And you're right.
54:47
None of this was discussed.
54:48
It's all about you're going to die.
54:50
And we have family members who believe this,
54:53
who believe that Trump himself is taking away
54:56
their Medicaid.
54:58
And one of these family members absolutely cannot
55:00
work, cannot volunteer, is not mobile.
55:03
You know, so it's like, no, you'll be
55:05
OK.
55:07
You'll be OK.
55:10
So but we're going to be this is
55:12
going to be thrown.
55:13
We're going to be thrown to death with
55:14
this stuff.
55:15
The Republicans, they should bring back the granny
55:18
over the cliff bit.
55:19
I thought that was fun.
55:20
Well, you know, they're not creative anymore.
55:22
No, they're not.
55:25
So I think that's it.
55:26
I think we're done with that with that
55:28
topic.
55:29
So it passed.
55:31
Now everyone's going to be just passed now.
55:33
Yeah, yeah.
55:35
So I was wondering because I know they
55:38
had a bunch of guys in the fence
55:39
and Trump, I guess, had to promise a
55:41
bunch of executive orders to very specific.
55:43
Oh, I'm sure.
55:44
I'm sure.
55:45
Congress people that he would do this and
55:48
that for them if they just get this
55:50
out of the way.
55:51
And so they got it out of the
55:52
way.
55:52
OK, good.
55:53
It's about time now.
55:53
Now they can talk about something else.
55:55
They've been incessantly discussing this on public radio.
55:59
For one thing, it makes it very difficult
56:01
to find clips on other interesting things like
56:04
the fact and I don't have a clip
56:06
that Jaguar lost 95 percent of its sales
56:11
after it ran those stupid ads with the
56:13
transgender androgynous people.
56:17
You know, it's funny because that that meme
56:19
came back around and I thought they everyone
56:22
already saw the ad.
56:23
It was like, was it did they report
56:26
numbers?
56:27
Is that why they reported numbers?
56:28
They only sold 26 cars in Europe in
56:31
April.
56:34
It's also a crap car.
56:35
It's a Ford.
56:37
And the and the and the in the
56:39
advertising agency saying, I don't get it.
56:44
It makes no sense.
56:46
It was a great ad.
56:50
Yeah, so.
56:53
I'll let you go for a bit and
56:54
I have other stuff to do.
56:56
You want me to go?
56:57
Well, let's go for a bit with my
56:58
thesis about.
56:59
Yes, about the New Yorker and I'll summarize
57:02
your thesis from the newsletter.
57:04
If you're not subscribed to the newsletter, you
57:06
are missing out on some good quality content
57:09
and memes and a lot of meme.
57:12
And the thesis that you drew up on
57:15
the previous no agenda episode was that this
57:19
is the populace, the Democrat version of a
57:23
populace candidate saying all the things that the
57:27
Democrats want to hear.
57:30
And, of course, the more the more outrageous
57:32
the things are.
57:33
This is the Trump model.
57:35
The more outrageous those things are, the more
57:37
I mean, no one even could pronounce, let
57:40
alone spell his name until all the outrageousness
57:43
and the coverage on all sides of the
57:46
political news spectrum.
57:48
Mondami mondani mondani.
57:52
Mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, Donnie, mom, Donnie,
57:55
yes.
57:55
So, yes, the thesis is that this is
57:58
Trump's playbook from 2015, 2016.
58:02
Which, by the way, indirectly is Putin's playbook
58:05
and Hitler's playbook, so, I'm just saying.
58:07
Well, there's a lot of playbooks involved.
58:08
A lot of playbooks, yeah.
58:09
But I'm talking about the publicity playbook where
58:11
you get a lot of free publicity for
58:13
being outrageous and saying crazy things and getting
58:16
the other side worked up.
58:17
Yes.
58:18
And this is the problem that we've had.
58:19
We had these guys getting all worked up
58:21
and I wanna play the thing that triggered
58:23
this week's workup, which was the last meet
58:27
the presses where she asked him three times,
58:30
and I have all three clips, to rebuke
58:34
the comment about worldwide intifada.
58:42
And he beats around the bush.
58:44
And he got, Fox has played these clips.
58:48
Of course.
58:49
It's over.
58:49
Like idiots, like idiots, like idiots.
58:52
Like the idiots they are at Fox.
58:56
And here we go.
58:57
I'm gonna play these.
58:58
This is Mondani infatata clips with our buddy
59:01
Kristen Welker, man hands Welker, and she's gonna
59:05
try to get him to say things.
59:07
Oh, hold on, do I have the, yes,
59:09
hold on a second.
59:10
This is intifada one.
59:11
Yeah, I got it.
59:12
You were recently asked about the term globalize
59:15
the intifada, if it makes you uncomfortable.
59:18
In that moment, you did not condemn the
59:21
phrase.
59:21
Now, just so folks understand, it's a phrase
59:23
that many people hear as a call to
59:25
violence against Jews.
59:27
There's been a lot of attention on this
59:29
issue.
59:29
So I wanna give you an opportunity to
59:31
respond here and now.
59:33
Do you condemn that phrase, globalize the intifada?
59:37
That's not language that I use.
59:39
The language that I use and the language
59:40
that I will continue to use to lead
59:42
this city is that which speaks clearly to
59:44
my intent, which is an intent grounded in
59:47
a belief in universal human rights.
59:49
And ultimately, that's what is the foundation of
59:52
so much of my politics, the belief that
59:53
freedom and justice and safety are things that
59:56
to have meaning have to be applied to
59:58
all people.
59:58
And that includes Israelis and Palestinians as well.
1:00:00
No, but that's not that bad of an
1:00:02
answer.
1:00:03
But he didn't condemn it.
1:00:05
So she's now on it and thinking, well,
1:00:07
wait a minute.
1:00:08
He didn't answer my question.
1:00:09
So I'm gonna be a hotshot journalist and
1:00:11
ask him again.
1:00:13
Yeah.
1:00:13
But do you actually condemn it?
1:00:15
I think that's the question and the outstanding
1:00:17
issue that a number of people, both of
1:00:20
the Jewish faith and beyond have.
1:00:22
Do you condemn that phase, globalize the intifada,
1:00:24
which a lot of people hear as a
1:00:26
call to violence against Jews?
1:00:27
I've heard from many Jewish New Yorkers who
1:00:29
have shared their concerns with me, especially in
1:00:32
light of the horrific attacks that we saw
1:00:33
in Washington, D.C. and in Boulder, Colorado
1:00:36
about- Did he say Colder Ballerado?
1:00:39
That's kind of cool.
1:00:40
He wanted to say Colder Ballerado, Ballerado.
1:00:43
In Washington, D.C. and in Boulder, Colorado
1:00:47
about this moment of anti-Semitism in our
1:00:51
country and in our city.
1:00:52
And I've heard those fears and I've had
1:00:54
those conversations and ultimately they are part and
1:00:56
parcel of why in my campaign I've put
1:00:59
forward a commitment to increase funding for anti
1:01:01
-hate crime programming by 800%.
1:01:03
I don't believe that the role of the
1:01:05
mayor is to police speech.
1:01:09
Oh, you know, I can see, he's tricky.
1:01:13
He's a, he's a- Oh, he's good.
1:01:14
He's good.
1:01:15
I think he's really good.
1:01:16
Yeah.
1:01:17
And here he goes.
1:01:19
Okay, now, so she's the journalist who asked
1:01:21
the same question twice.
1:01:22
He got no answer from her.
1:01:23
He's beating her.
1:01:24
Let's do it again, let's do it again.
1:01:25
Let's try number three.
1:01:28
Quickly, for the people who care about the
1:01:30
language and who feel really concerned by that
1:01:33
phrase, why not just condemn it?
1:01:36
My concern is to start to walk down
1:01:40
the line of language and making clear what
1:01:44
language I believe is permissible or impermissible takes
1:01:47
me into a place similar to that of
1:01:49
the president who is looking to do those
1:01:51
very kinds of things, putting people in jail
1:01:53
for writing an op-ed, putting them in
1:01:55
jail for protesting.
1:01:56
Ultimately, it's the language that I use.
1:01:58
It's language I understand there are concerns about.
1:02:00
And what I will do is showcase my
1:02:02
vision for the city through my words and
1:02:04
my actions.
1:02:04
Hold on, surely the next question was, what
1:02:07
journalist was put in jail for writing an
1:02:10
op-ed?
1:02:11
Yeah, no, no.
1:02:12
Do you know?
1:02:13
Do you know by any chance?
1:02:15
No, there's none.
1:02:15
No, none have, none have.
1:02:17
By the way.
1:02:18
None have been put in jail.
1:02:19
They did lose their case.
1:02:21
CBS bailed out and gave Trump $16 million
1:02:25
to go up to $30.
1:02:26
I have that clip if you want to
1:02:27
hear it.
1:02:28
Yeah, let's play that before we finish this
1:02:29
off.
1:02:30
CBS's parent company, Paramount Global, will shell out
1:02:33
$16 million to President Trump to settle a
1:02:37
lawsuit waged over a 60 minutes interview with
1:02:40
then Vice President Kamala Harris that aired weeks
1:02:43
before the presidential election.
1:02:45
Trump claims it gave Harris an unfair advantage.
1:02:48
Kamala was unable to answer a question properly.
1:02:52
And they took the question that they asked
1:02:55
and they inserted an answer.
1:02:57
In his lawsuit, Trump accused the network of
1:02:59
misleading voters with quote, deceitful editing of Harris's
1:03:02
answer to a question on whether the U
1:03:05
.S. has any sway over Israeli Prime Minister
1:03:07
Benjamin Netanyahu.
1:03:09
But it seems that.
1:03:10
As reflected by the raw interview posted by
1:03:12
60 Minutes.
1:03:13
Well Bill.
1:03:15
The program Face the Nation used a longer
1:03:17
portion at the beginning of Harris's response.
1:03:20
While 60 Minutes used a shorter portion.
1:03:23
We are not gonna stop.
1:03:24
That came at the end of that same
1:03:26
response to accommodate time restraints.
1:03:28
CBS said Trump's claims were false and the
1:03:31
interview was not doctored.
1:03:33
Paramount Settlement does not include an apology or
1:03:35
any regret.
1:03:37
And the settlement money will go toward Trump's
1:03:39
future presidential library, not the president himself.
1:03:42
Sorry, not sorry.
1:03:43
You know the thing I just realized?
1:03:45
I don't even remember what the question was
1:03:46
about.
1:03:47
It was something about whether Israel controls U
1:03:50
.S. policy?
1:03:50
Was that the question?
1:03:51
I don't remember either.
1:03:52
I have to go back now.
1:03:53
The whole thing is.
1:03:54
I have to go back and listen to
1:03:55
that.
1:03:55
I haven't since we just played that.
1:03:57
I might as well play my CBS case
1:03:59
to Trump.
1:04:00
This is the NPR version of what you
1:04:01
just played.
1:04:03
Press rights groups are denouncing the parent company
1:04:06
of CBS for agreeing to pay President Trump's
1:04:09
future library $16 million.
1:04:12
NPR's David Folkenflik reports Trump had sued CBS.
1:04:16
Over the way, 60 Minutes edited an interview
1:04:19
with then-Vice President Kamala Harris.
1:04:21
Trump's lawyers said the segment constituted electoral interference.
1:04:25
Outside legal observers say his case had no
1:04:28
merit, that the First Amendment covers such editorial
1:04:30
choices.
1:04:31
His legal team says Trump has held the
1:04:33
fake news media accountable for their wrongdoing and
1:04:35
deceit.
1:04:37
Paramount needs approval from Trump's regulators to sell
1:04:39
the company in an $8 billion deal.
1:04:42
The lawsuit is hardly a one-and-done
1:04:44
for the president.
1:04:45
The agreement appears modeled on a past settlement
1:04:47
from the Walt Disney Company, the corporate parent
1:04:49
of ABC News, over anchor George Stephanopoulos' imprecise
1:04:53
statements about legal findings against Trump.
1:04:55
Trump is still suing the Des Moines Register
1:04:57
over a poll last year, and he recently
1:04:59
threatened the New York Times and CNN with
1:05:02
prosecution for their reporting.
1:05:05
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:05:06
I'm a little, I'm torn.
1:05:09
He'll come for the podcasters next, people.
1:05:12
Well, the ones who are getting paid off
1:05:14
by Coca-Cola.
1:05:16
Yeah, they should.
1:05:18
So we go back to Mamdani.
1:05:20
Mamdani, Mamdani.
1:05:22
So he does these, he refuses to answer
1:05:24
that question, which I believe he will eventually
1:05:26
say, no, I always meant that, because he's
1:05:29
going to pull a Trump in every way
1:05:31
he can, and I think he's going to
1:05:33
win the election the way they've got it
1:05:36
set up with the ranked voting, which is
1:05:39
just a disaster if you start to think
1:05:42
about it.
1:05:43
Can I just ask you one question, going
1:05:45
back to CBS?
1:05:48
I mean, the First Amendment clearly, I mean,
1:05:52
I know this was a civil suit, but
1:05:54
the First Amendment clearly states that, you know,
1:05:57
you cannot create any law against the press,
1:06:00
whatever, if they want to write your, I
1:06:01
mean, there's slander, there's things that have, there
1:06:04
are different provisions, but there was, I mean,
1:06:08
the only reason for this is they want
1:06:10
the Paramount merger to go through, correct?
1:06:13
I think that's one of the reasons they
1:06:15
settled, but I think they also had a
1:06:16
weak case.
1:06:17
This wasn't about free speech.
1:06:19
This was about election law violation.
1:06:21
Okay, all right.
1:06:23
Yeah, the equal time equals something rule?
1:06:27
No, not equal time, it's just the fairness.
1:06:29
The fairness doctrine.
1:06:31
You can't meddle in an election in some
1:06:33
unfair way that is the way CBS, what
1:06:38
CBS did was illegal, the way I see
1:06:40
it, but I could be wrong, I'm not
1:06:43
a lawyer.
1:06:44
But let's get back to Mom Donnie.
1:06:46
So he's, so he makes these comments and
1:06:49
he gets everybody bent out of shape.
1:06:51
So I'm trying to find, and I'm watching
1:06:54
Outnumbered and these three clips.
1:06:57
Oh my goodness, did you have too much
1:06:58
time?
1:06:59
What happened to sumo wrestling?
1:07:01
It's only every other month.
1:07:03
Oh, okay.
1:07:04
And so there's a new tournament coming up
1:07:05
this month.
1:07:06
Luckily, can't have you watching Outnumbered.
1:07:10
There's good stuff on Outnumbered because it's very
1:07:12
well, it's highly structured.
1:07:14
And they had Marie Harf on, your buddy.
1:07:16
Oh, Marie Harf.
1:07:18
So Marie Harf is on.
1:07:20
She always plays the devil's advocate.
1:07:22
She's the Democrat.
1:07:22
She's the Democrat of the box.
1:07:24
Yeah, she's a Democrat spokeshole.
1:07:26
Yeah, she was, X, yes.
1:07:29
And so she comes on as the foil.
1:07:31
They always try to bring somebody on with
1:07:33
a perspective.
1:07:35
Fox does this better.
1:07:38
CNN does it with the one guy, whatever
1:07:40
his name is.
1:07:41
Well, Brooks and Capehart.
1:07:44
Yeah, right, PBS doesn't do it at all,
1:07:46
obviously.
1:07:47
But so they had Marie Harf on and
1:07:49
so I finally found an example of that.
1:07:53
Now, I'm just switching my thought process, the
1:07:57
dimensionality, to flip it from Trump to Mom
1:08:00
Donny and the way people were reacting to
1:08:02
Trump when he first showed up with the
1:08:05
Trump derangement syndrome.
1:08:06
We have Mom Donny derangement syndrome.
1:08:10
And you have the Trump supporters in the
1:08:12
early days that were defending him against all
1:08:15
this crazy stuff they were throwing at him.
1:08:17
And that's what Marie Harf does.
1:08:20
She is on board with Mom Donny.
1:08:23
She understands it, she knows the playbook.
1:08:26
But she doesn't understand it to the extent
1:08:28
that I do.
1:08:31
She's not seeing it as using Trump's playbook
1:08:34
at all.
1:08:34
She's actually seeing it as a true believer.
1:08:38
And she's buying, this is just classic, this
1:08:41
is classic to listen to her.
1:08:43
So here she is, they ask her about,
1:08:47
they're all blasting this guy.
1:08:48
They're out of control.
1:08:49
And you'll hear some pieces of that in
1:08:52
here.
1:08:52
Everybody on the show is, oh, this is
1:08:54
the worst thing that could ever happen.
1:08:56
John Yoo is on there going, oh my
1:08:58
God.
1:08:59
And Emily is nuts over this guy.
1:09:02
Oh, geez, this is the end of the
1:09:03
world.
1:09:04
This is all the same thing that was
1:09:06
going on with Trump.
1:09:07
And so we have Marie Harf, who's the
1:09:09
voice of reason, but it's not gonna work.
1:09:13
Here we go.
1:09:13
Yeah, here's why I think this is an
1:09:15
interesting look into his campaign.
1:09:17
He was unknown as of six months or
1:09:19
a year ago, right?
1:09:20
He is a new candidate who has tapped
1:09:22
into energy and concerns about cost of living,
1:09:25
things that you mentioned.
1:09:26
He has repeatedly said he abhors anti-Semitism.
1:09:31
Increasing anti-hate crime funding by 800%, that's
1:09:34
real.
1:09:35
That will help in New York.
1:09:36
And don't take my word for it.
1:09:37
Prominent Jewish New Yorkers, Jerry Nadler, Brad Lander,
1:09:40
they have said, they've endorsed him.
1:09:43
You're talking politicians who want their party to
1:09:45
be an office irrespective of anything that they
1:09:49
believe in.
1:09:49
That's not true.
1:09:50
Are you questioning Jerry Nadler or Brad Lander's
1:09:53
commitment to Judaism?
1:09:55
100%.
1:09:56
Wow, I wouldn't question anyone's commitment to their
1:09:58
faith.
1:09:58
The same way that I would question Chuck
1:10:00
Schumer, who works against the interests of his
1:10:02
own people at times for the politics.
1:10:04
Let me finish what I'm saying here.
1:10:07
Prominent Jewish New Yorkers have said they have
1:10:09
met with him.
1:10:10
They believe that he abhors anti-Semitism and
1:10:13
will help New York do better.
1:10:15
Then why not condemn a globalized antifa?
1:10:17
I think that he should be more sensitive
1:10:19
to the context in which many people hear
1:10:21
that language.
1:10:22
And I think he should condemn it.
1:10:24
But I think that painting him with a
1:10:25
brush, that because he won't, because he's wordsmithy,
1:10:28
because he doesn't want to censor, that everything
1:10:30
else he's said about condemning anti-Semitism.
1:10:34
I think we should just coin it, MDS.
1:10:36
MDS right now, Mamdani Derangement Syndrome.
1:10:39
Yes, great.
1:10:40
MDS.
1:10:41
I don't understand why everybody's not spotting this
1:10:44
as this is an analog of Trump.
1:10:48
Well, they have to get up early for
1:10:49
this show.
1:10:50
You know, you and I, we just lounge
1:10:51
around, we get up around 8.30, you
1:10:54
know, we have our coffee.
1:10:54
I'm talking about in general, this is all
1:10:56
day on Fox.
1:10:57
I just happened to catch Harf, I thought
1:10:59
this was, because she represents a certain, she
1:11:04
represents the party pretty much.
1:11:06
I mean, here she is, now she's gonna
1:11:08
get into it with some other people.
1:11:10
I think this is Emily starting off and
1:11:12
then they get a little argument going.
1:11:15
Jewish leaders saying he is good for their
1:11:17
community.
1:11:18
Not everybody.
1:11:19
No, but a lot.
1:11:20
I think that matters too.
1:11:21
And I don't think he's an anti-Semite.
1:11:23
I don't see three people being a lot,
1:11:24
but we can get back into it another
1:11:26
time.
1:11:26
The number of Jewish New Yorkers who voted
1:11:28
for him in the primary was not small.
1:11:30
Maybe one in five, two in five Jewish
1:11:33
New Yorkers, we're still getting data here.
1:11:35
That's not a small number of Jews.
1:11:36
I don't think you should discount their feelings
1:11:38
on this either.
1:11:39
I'm not discounting their feelings.
1:11:40
They're voters.
1:11:41
They can vote in their interest or not.
1:11:44
I would say this, if they're really concerned,
1:11:47
Emily, about affordability in the city, why did
1:11:49
they live for the last four years with
1:11:51
no protest against all the illegal aliens that
1:11:53
came in and soaked up more than a
1:11:56
billion dollars each year, plus while Biden was
1:12:01
in office, while they had Democrats in majority
1:12:04
here?
1:12:04
What a great question.
1:12:06
I'll just be candid.
1:12:07
I find this person frightening.
1:12:08
You know, it's interesting because here in Fredericksburg,
1:12:13
the conversation is ongoing.
1:12:15
They have MDS here.
1:12:17
And like, New York is lost.
1:12:20
This is crazy.
1:12:21
One of our biggest, most beautiful cities.
1:12:24
Hey, you live in Texas.
1:12:26
Beautiful city?
1:12:27
Are you kidding me?
1:12:27
You live in Texas.
1:12:29
Who cares?
1:12:31
Why do you care?
1:12:32
Did you plan a vacation to Broadway?
1:12:35
No.
1:12:38
MDS is working.
1:12:39
It's working.
1:12:40
It's working.
1:12:41
It's working great.
1:12:42
So here is the last clip where she
1:12:45
tries to get some more information out there.
1:12:48
She's trying to defend, this is again, if
1:12:50
we reverse this and go back to the
1:12:52
Trump time where you had the pro-Trumpers,
1:12:54
trying to convince people, yeah, he's harsh.
1:12:57
Yeah, he does cuss a lot, but he's
1:12:59
harsh.
1:13:00
His language is harsh, but, but, but, but,
1:13:02
but.
1:13:02
And so we have this same thing right
1:13:05
now with this guy.
1:13:06
Here we go.
1:13:07
The people that Mondami is preaching to are
1:13:10
ultra rich in this city.
1:13:12
Some of them have even said they may
1:13:14
leave.
1:13:14
Now, I don't know how you square that.
1:13:16
You're going to vote for the guy, and
1:13:17
then you might think about taking your square
1:13:18
of moneyness someplace else.
1:13:21
I don't know how that works out.
1:13:23
My square of money?
1:13:25
Moneyness.
1:13:26
Oh, my square of moneyness?
1:13:29
Yeah, I don't know.
1:13:29
She was like, look, I've never heard this.
1:13:32
Well, it's because she just, it came off
1:13:34
the top of her head.
1:13:35
She's trying to, she's trying to slam the
1:13:37
guy and she's failing.
1:13:39
Railing against him.
1:13:40
She's railing.
1:13:40
That was a fail, yeah.
1:13:41
You're going to vote for the guy, and
1:13:42
then you might think about taking your square
1:13:44
of moneyness someplace else.
1:13:47
I don't know how that works out.
1:13:49
But you're talking about affordability and you bring
1:13:51
it up, Emily.
1:13:52
How can you have that conversation, but the
1:13:54
people who would benefit from more affordability didn't
1:13:57
vote for you?
1:13:58
What do they see about you that they
1:14:00
don't like?
1:14:02
What about all the anti-Muslim hate that
1:14:04
has been spewed at him?
1:14:05
We should also condemn that.
1:14:06
The horrible things that- So, let me
1:14:08
step in on that.
1:14:10
Did you see the video from over the
1:14:11
weekend?
1:14:12
Those are people who had gone to support
1:14:13
him at his rally.
1:14:15
And he said something akin to what I
1:14:17
said to you.
1:14:18
No Jewish state, but Israel can stay with
1:14:21
different people in it or a wider spectrum.
1:14:24
And they thought that that didn't go far
1:14:26
enough.
1:14:26
Look at the video.
1:14:27
It's fascinating.
1:14:28
All right, we're going to move.
1:14:29
All right, we're going to move.
1:14:29
It's fascinating.
1:14:31
Man, you get extra bonus points for watching
1:14:33
that crap.
1:14:35
That's crap.
1:14:36
I actually like the show.
1:14:38
I can't stand it.
1:14:39
You don't like anything.
1:14:41
I like lots of things.
1:14:42
You're a negative person.
1:14:43
I'm a very positive person when it comes
1:14:46
to other things.
1:14:48
But the point is made.
1:14:50
I'm making that this is the point I'm
1:14:52
going to make.
1:14:53
I'm sticking with it.
1:14:53
I see no evidence to the contrary that
1:14:55
this is all not just a complete populist.
1:14:58
And the thing is, this is a worldwide
1:15:00
populist movement.
1:15:02
And he's showing the Democrats how to do
1:15:05
it.
1:15:06
Yes.
1:15:07
And they should be paying attention to it
1:15:09
because he's doing it the right way.
1:15:11
He is.
1:15:12
And he'll come out of it fine.
1:15:13
He probably will get the mayorship and nothing
1:15:16
really will change much.
1:15:17
It won't be worse than de Blasio.
1:15:19
No.
1:15:21
No, I think you're absolutely right.
1:15:23
And he is doing it.
1:15:25
He's doing just like Trump.
1:15:27
Where he's using word smithing.
1:15:29
You know, he's very fine people.
1:15:32
It's all his own version of it.
1:15:34
I have to admit you've nailed it on
1:15:37
this.
1:15:37
No, I want to admit.
1:15:38
I'm happy to admit.
1:15:40
That's why there's two of us.
1:15:41
This is good.
1:15:42
This is very good.
1:15:46
Here's a little gambit playing out.
1:15:48
The timing is remarkable.
1:15:50
This is ABC.
1:15:51
A new setback for Ukraine.
1:15:53
The U.S. is causing some weapons shipments.
1:15:55
My crane, Ukraine.
1:15:56
His crane, her crane, Ukraine.
1:15:58
A new setback for Ukraine.
1:16:00
The U.S. is pausing some weapons shipments
1:16:02
to the country after a Pentagon review reportedly
1:16:04
found certain U.S. stockpiles were too low.
1:16:07
Officials are not saying what weapons are being
1:16:09
held back, but the Pentagon insists this is
1:16:11
not affecting the readiness of the U.S.
1:16:13
military.
1:16:14
Ukraine has been struggling to fend off some
1:16:16
of the biggest Russian attacks of the war
1:16:18
and peace talks have ground to a halt.
1:16:20
So that's ABC.
1:16:22
Remarkably, Franz Van Katra does have the list
1:16:25
of low stockpiles and has something different to
1:16:29
say.
1:16:30
In what looks to be a severe blow
1:16:31
to Ukraine's war effort, Washington says it will
1:16:34
pause arms deliveries to Kiev.
1:16:37
NBC and the New York Times report that
1:16:39
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth made the decision because
1:16:42
of concerns about the U.S. military stockpile.
1:16:45
Hegseth had ordered a review of the army's
1:16:47
munitions inventory, which has been depleted after three
1:16:50
years of supplying weapons to Ukraine and carrying
1:16:53
out military operations in the Middle East.
1:16:55
Among the weapons likely to be delayed are
1:16:58
Patriot interceptors, 155 millimeter howitzer munitions, Hellfire missiles,
1:17:03
GMLRS missile systems, and Stinger surface-to-air
1:17:06
missiles.
1:17:07
Just this week, Ukraine's foreign minister said Kiev
1:17:10
had been asking Washington for more deliveries.
1:17:13
A halt in deliveries would hamper Ukraine's abilities
1:17:16
to defend its cities from Russian drone and
1:17:19
missile attacks and also impede its own precision
1:17:22
strikes against Russian targets.
1:17:24
Sources say the deliveries being paused were scheduled
1:17:27
for several months from now, but there are
1:17:29
fears in Kiev the suspension will be assigned
1:17:31
to Moscow that Ukraine's support from the West
1:17:34
is compromised.
1:17:36
So this is hilarious because this comes right
1:17:38
on the heels of the 5% NATO
1:17:41
increase.
1:17:42
Okay, three and a half percent.
1:17:44
Well, I have- Wait, wait, wait.
1:17:46
I have the NTD version of the same
1:17:48
report.
1:17:48
But there's a payoff.
1:17:49
I have the payoff.
1:17:52
Well, you know what?
1:17:52
I want to hear- Yeah, the payoff
1:17:54
should go last.
1:17:55
Okay, I want to hear it.
1:17:56
Where's your...
1:17:57
I got your NTD right here.
1:17:58
Here we go.
1:17:59
The U.S. confirms that it is pausing
1:18:01
some weapons shipments to Ukraine, but officials stopped
1:18:03
short of confirming reports saying that air defense
1:18:06
missiles are mostly affected by the halt.
1:18:08
NTD's international correspondent, Ariane Postar, has the latest.
1:18:12
This capability review, and that's exactly what it
1:18:14
is, is a capability review is being conducted
1:18:17
to ensure U.S. military aid aligns with
1:18:21
our defense priorities.
1:18:23
And we will not be- The Pentagon
1:18:24
on Wednesday confirmed that the U.S. is
1:18:26
currently pausing some weapons shipments to Ukraine.
1:18:29
A senior Ukrainian lawmaker previously called Washington's decision,
1:18:33
quote, painful for Kiev's efforts to defend against
1:18:36
Russian airstrikes.
1:18:38
The attacks have intensified in recent weeks.
1:18:40
The Pentagon was asked whether this review would
1:18:44
embolden Russia.
1:18:45
The spokesman replied that the capability review aims
1:18:48
to make sure America is strong, which benefits
1:18:51
the entire globe.
1:18:52
Our job here at the Department of Defense
1:18:54
is to pursue the President's America First agenda
1:18:57
and make sure that we achieve peace through
1:18:59
strength throughout the world.
1:19:00
The State Department on Wednesday echoing that sentiment,
1:19:03
a spokesperson says that despite the review, the
1:19:06
U.S. will continue supporting Ukraine.
1:19:09
Our commitment hasn't changed.
1:19:12
The nature of how we're able to make
1:19:14
that commitment is going to be based on
1:19:15
what is best for America first.
1:19:18
Russia also commented on the latest developments.
1:19:21
A spokesperson says pausing shipments would bring a
1:19:24
quicker end to the conflict.
1:19:26
Nah, well, none of that is true.
1:19:28
By the way, I want that past star
1:19:30
guy to get on the Radio Hall of
1:19:32
Fame.
1:19:36
This, of course, is a money gambit.
1:19:39
Well done, Merka, Merka first, yes, because on
1:19:43
the very same day this is announced, Queen
1:19:45
Ursula is in Denmark telling everybody, we'll protect
1:19:50
Greenland, don't worry about it.
1:19:52
And here's what she said.
1:19:53
For us, it's a clear signal or clear
1:19:57
message to step up our own support.
1:19:59
So ramping up our European defense capacities, not
1:20:04
only at the level of the European Union,
1:20:06
but at a continental level.
1:20:09
And as you know, we have already provided
1:20:12
around about 50 billion euros of support in
1:20:14
the military part, military equipment.
1:20:18
Denmark has shown with a significant deliveries as
1:20:22
of the start of the war, how to
1:20:25
do it, from a much needed artillery to
1:20:27
F-16s, for example.
1:20:29
I, for my part, can only recommend to
1:20:33
use now safe.
1:20:35
Here are 150 billion euros.
1:20:37
Now that's the new law that they passed,
1:20:42
that everybody can dip into deficits to-
1:20:46
Oh, the deficit, you're right.
1:20:47
Right, so this is about the money, and
1:20:49
what are we gonna do?
1:20:50
Much needed artillery to F-16s, for example.
1:20:53
I, for my part, can only recommend to
1:20:57
use now safe.
1:20:59
Here are 150 billion euros.
1:21:02
The member states can take this money and
1:21:05
either buy military equipment and give it to
1:21:08
Ukraine, or they can- Buy it from
1:21:12
us, buy it from us, of course.
1:21:15
Well, but you don't have to buy it.
1:21:17
You could also just squander it.
1:21:19
Or they can take this money and invest
1:21:21
it in the extremely efficient Ukrainian defense industry.
1:21:25
Did you know that the Ukrainian defense industry
1:21:28
is extremely efficient?
1:21:30
I didn't know it was efficient, but I
1:21:31
do know they make a lot of drones.
1:21:33
It's efficient.
1:21:34
President Zelensky told us that this defense industry,
1:21:37
which is highly efficient, has a capacity where
1:21:42
only 60% are being used, so there's
1:21:45
room for more 40% of capacity to
1:21:48
finance by our member states, for example, and
1:21:51
safe is the instrument that is there.
1:21:54
What?
1:21:55
They're not- What scam are we talking
1:21:56
about now?
1:21:57
They're not gonna give anything to Ukraine.
1:21:59
They're gonna buy Patriots from us.
1:22:01
Trump said, oh, I'll make sure I get
1:22:03
you, I'll get you, to that journalist, I'll
1:22:05
make sure I get you some Patriots.
1:22:06
Hey, Ursula, we're gonna stop sending them for
1:22:09
free, so pay up, queen.
1:22:12
And that's what's happening.
1:22:13
Yeah, I guess that's the deal.
1:22:13
Of course it is.
1:22:14
It's so obvious.
1:22:18
It's, it's almost, it's crazy.
1:22:23
Talk about throwing money away.
1:22:26
Well, blowing it up in the sky, basically.
1:22:28
So we have a new Dutch guy on
1:22:31
the scene.
1:22:31
He's not as good as the Rutte.
1:22:34
Far from it, actually.
1:22:35
I can't even really do his voice, which
1:22:38
I probably just should stop doing that, unless
1:22:40
it's Rutte, Rutte.
1:22:42
And- What do you mean, should stop
1:22:45
doing what?
1:22:46
The Dutch voice, when I'm on the international
1:22:48
stage, I'm talking about climate change.
1:22:51
We have a new climate pope.
1:22:54
His name is Wopke, Wopke Hofstra.
1:22:58
Wopke, Wopke, W-O-P-K-E, Wopke.
1:23:03
That's his first name.
1:23:05
Wow, what a first name that is.
1:23:07
Well, it's a Frisian name, I believe, from
1:23:10
Friesland.
1:23:11
Wopke Hofstra, Wopke, he is the commissioner for
1:23:16
climate change.
1:23:17
And we have a solution so that we
1:23:21
don't screw ourselves while still saving the planet.
1:23:26
And I have a big thing, I talk
1:23:28
about it.
1:23:28
It's really carbon credits, but don't worry about
1:23:30
it.
1:23:30
The European commissioner for climate defends the strategy
1:23:33
presented to reach a 90% reduction of
1:23:36
CO2 emission by 2040.
1:23:39
Now, that seems doable.
1:23:40
In an interview with Euronews, Wopke Hofstra explains
1:23:44
his stance on giving carbon credit in which
1:23:46
the EU countries pay other countries to cut
1:23:49
their carbon emissions.
1:23:50
So they're going to tax- What?
1:23:52
They're going to tax their citizens.
1:23:54
This sounds like cap and trade.
1:23:56
Oh, it's carbon credits.
1:23:58
It's ETS, the European trading system for carbon
1:24:01
credits.
1:24:02
They're going to let their industry do whatever
1:24:05
they want, take taxpayer money and give that
1:24:08
to African nations and our Southern neighbors.
1:24:11
However, critics question how reliable and fair the
1:24:14
plan is, particularly as member states are farming
1:24:18
out their carbon emission responsibilities to developing countries.
1:24:22
In this hugely complicated geopolitical- Does anybody
1:24:25
see this as a scam of scams?
1:24:27
No.
1:24:28
You're still producing the same amount of carbon.
1:24:32
No, no.
1:24:32
And you're saying, hey, you're not producing any
1:24:34
carbon, so you can take our carbon and
1:24:36
we'll give you your carbon and so we
1:24:39
can swap your no carbon for our carbon,
1:24:42
and now all of a sudden everything's good?
1:24:44
I'm going to, I have another clip about
1:24:46
what they're doing with the carbon.
1:24:49
But yeah, it's an obvious scam, you know,
1:24:53
and they say, well, don't farm in this
1:24:55
land, you poor Africans, because that's a carbon
1:24:57
sink, you see, and we'll give you money
1:25:00
for it.
1:25:01
You see.
1:25:01
Yeah, you see.
1:25:02
To develop it.
1:25:02
And by the way, they already bought up
1:25:04
all the African land, so this is really
1:25:06
just putting money in multinationals' pockets and countries
1:25:09
like China who bought up large pieces of
1:25:11
land as a carbon sink and they'll just
1:25:13
collect money for it.
1:25:15
Emission responsibilities to developing countries.
1:25:18
In this hugely complicated geopolitical world, there is
1:25:22
a lot of value also for us in
1:25:24
building more bridges with our friends in Africa
1:25:26
and Latin America.
1:25:28
They like- Yes, a bridge, a bridge
1:25:29
to nowhere, just bridges, our friends, you're my
1:25:32
friend.
1:25:33
They have, they often lack the capital, they
1:25:36
often lack the opportunity.
1:25:37
We give you opportunity and capital.
1:25:39
Hoekstra also justifies the measure by the need
1:25:42
to reduce carbon emissions while balancing it with
1:25:45
competitiveness.
1:25:46
Critics say the commission is chipping away at
1:25:49
the EU's Green Deal provisions.
1:25:51
Hoekstra says he can do both.
1:25:53
There is some sort of a discrepancy between
1:25:57
on the one hand economic growth and on
1:25:59
the other hand climate action.
1:26:01
You think there's some kind of discrepancy like
1:26:03
being able to make steel and build other
1:26:05
things and not having to pay out the
1:26:07
nose for it so you can build your
1:26:09
industry?
1:26:10
It's some kind of discrepancy here.
1:26:12
We need to keep the earth clean.
1:26:15
And our job is to make sure that
1:26:17
we continue with climate action but do so
1:26:20
in a way that works for our people,
1:26:22
works for our companies and works for our
1:26:25
economy.
1:26:25
The 2040 target is just a step along
1:26:28
the way before reaching the carbon neutrality goal
1:26:30
in 2050.
1:26:31
All right, so since you brought it up,
1:26:33
I'm gonna give you an example of what
1:26:35
Sweden is doing.
1:26:35
Sweden is so innovative.
1:26:37
Sweden is so innovative what they're doing with
1:26:40
their carbon capture.
1:26:41
I've just tried to elucidate why I think
1:26:43
it is a great idea to have for
1:26:46
a small percentage carbon credits.
1:26:48
The same is true for negative emissions and
1:26:50
filtering them back into the ETS.
1:26:52
Just to give you that one example, I
1:26:54
was a couple of weeks ago, I was
1:26:55
in Sweden.
1:26:55
It's the largest CCS project in Europe.
1:26:58
What are they doing?
1:27:00
They're getting emissions or they're getting CO2, they're
1:27:04
putting it in a ship.
1:27:06
They're shipping it up north and they're putting
1:27:07
it into the ground.
1:27:08
How about that?
1:27:10
They put the carbon emissions into a ship
1:27:13
and they ship it up and they put
1:27:14
it into the ground.
1:27:16
Come on, man.
1:27:17
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard
1:27:20
of.
1:27:20
So you could actually, is there any, okay.
1:27:24
Are there inspectors?
1:27:26
Yeah.
1:27:27
Yeah, this guy, he's gonna inspect it.
1:27:30
Are there inspectors that can verify that the
1:27:33
carbon is in the ship to begin with
1:27:35
and that it's being put into the ground?
1:27:40
Are there verify, you know, trust and verify
1:27:43
people out there?
1:27:44
Is there any of this?
1:27:45
Or this is just bull crap.
1:27:46
It's a lie for the dummies.
1:27:49
It's just a ship with an empty ship.
1:27:51
Oh, it's filled with CO2, baby.
1:27:53
Don't come near it.
1:27:54
It's dangerous.
1:27:55
This sounds like a scam of scams.
1:27:58
Dangerous emissions.
1:27:59
Well, and then this is where- Don't
1:28:01
come near it.
1:28:01
What happens if it sinks?
1:28:04
This is the worst analogy ever.
1:28:07
So now he's gonna tout a favorite of,
1:28:11
oh my goodness, this goes back to 2007.
1:28:14
Ready for it?
1:28:15
Cleantech, okay?
1:28:18
Cleantech, which I remember the Kleiner Perkins.
1:28:21
They were all, oh, we're investing in cleantech.
1:28:23
We have a cleantech fund.
1:28:25
Everybody lost their shirt on that cleantech fund.
1:28:27
There was no money in it.
1:28:29
Yeah, Kleiner Perkins has never been the same
1:28:30
ever since they tried doing all that crap.
1:28:32
The cleantech fund.
1:28:34
So he's now gonna tell us that cleantech,
1:28:37
we have no idea what innovative things, this
1:28:41
is how they, they don't say innovative, they
1:28:43
say innovative.
1:28:44
Innovative things cleantech will bring us.
1:28:46
I will give you an analogy that we
1:28:48
never know what technology will bring to us
1:28:51
in the future.
1:28:52
Without blaming the past, I do think we
1:28:54
have sometimes been too one dimensional.
1:28:57
It is exactly when you get it right
1:28:59
at this nexus of the economy and climate
1:29:01
action that you will create an engine for
1:29:05
clean economic growth.
1:29:07
And that is why it is so extremely
1:29:08
important that we double down on cleantech, that
1:29:11
we double down on all the enabling conditions
1:29:13
that I was just mentioning.
1:29:14
Because what we need to do is make
1:29:17
sure that we expose European industry to the
1:29:20
potential to be one of the winners in
1:29:22
the future.
1:29:23
I don't have my phone with me, but
1:29:25
I'm sure you have.
1:29:26
And if you look at it and you
1:29:28
think about what it would look like 15
1:29:30
years from now, that's always a complicated thing
1:29:32
to do.
1:29:33
But just think what it was like 15
1:29:34
years ago.
1:29:36
Nokia, a great company, was about to lose
1:29:39
to BlackBerry, a company that now no longer
1:29:42
exists, at least not in the business of
1:29:44
making these type of phones.
1:29:46
That is the type of transition we will
1:29:49
see in many industries, right?
1:29:51
Wait a minute.
1:29:53
He's saying that look at Nokia.
1:29:56
They had the market for cell phones.
1:30:00
They got outpaced by BlackBerry, which then died.
1:30:05
And that's bull crap, by the way.
1:30:07
That's the kind of innovation he's touting?
1:30:10
Well, besides the fact that that's not what
1:30:12
happened to Nokia, it was the smartphone that
1:30:15
killed them, and iOS and Android.
1:30:19
He doesn't even mention that.
1:30:21
He's talking about BlackBerry.
1:30:22
No, he talks about BlackBerry was never a
1:30:23
competitor with Nokia, it was a paging device,
1:30:27
mostly.
1:30:28
And when they finally got to the phone
1:30:29
side of things, it wasn't a thing that
1:30:32
wiped out Nokia.
1:30:33
So they don't even have their analogies correct.
1:30:36
That's what I'm saying.
1:30:37
He should have said smartphone, at least.
1:30:40
Instead, he says, we can be the BlackBerry
1:30:42
of climate change.
1:30:43
Okay, bro, sounds like a plan.
1:30:45
The BlackBerry.
1:30:46
Sounds like a plan.
1:30:48
Wow.
1:30:48
Sounds like a plan.
1:30:50
Yeah, that's their cleantech vision.
1:30:53
The BlackBerry of climate tech.
1:30:55
Well, okay, it's fine with me.
1:30:58
He's not being dishonest, if you think about
1:31:00
it at the deepest levels.
1:31:02
So I have three clips on climate.
1:31:06
But first of all, since the one you
1:31:08
just played showed what a farce these things
1:31:10
are, especially the ship full of CO2, there
1:31:14
we go.
1:31:15
Here it's going in the ground, take a
1:31:17
look, see?
1:31:18
I'm going to start carrying around an empty
1:31:20
bag and say, stay away.
1:31:23
I'm going to put this in the ground.
1:31:24
This is my CO2 for the day.
1:31:26
I'm going to bury this in my backyard
1:31:28
because I'm helping the climate.
1:31:30
So there's a guy on TikTok who goes
1:31:33
around, he's in Marin County.
1:31:35
And in Marin County, they show these bins.
1:31:38
There's three recycling bins.
1:31:41
There's the solid waste, and then there's the
1:31:43
recyclable cardboard, and then there's something else.
1:31:47
And this is Marin County.
1:31:48
This is his report, as he has a
1:31:51
video showing the garbage guys picking this stuff
1:31:53
up.
1:31:54
Welcome to the progressive bastion of Marin County,
1:31:56
California, where we environmentalists go out of our
1:31:59
way to separate our refuse for a more
1:32:01
sustainable planet.
1:32:02
Residents can be fined up to $500 for
1:32:05
not properly separating their trash.
1:32:07
As you can see, the separating can be
1:32:08
futile as all this trash is remixed in
1:32:11
the truck and hauled to the landfill.
1:32:13
This is at the end of Tiburon's Restaurant
1:32:14
Row, where the restaurants diligently separate their waste
1:32:18
into recyclables, compostables, and common trash.
1:32:21
I witnessed bin after bin of meticulously sorted
1:32:24
waste, several tons worth, dumped into the same
1:32:27
truck, crushed, and hauled away.
1:32:30
Recycling is not specifically mentioned in the book,
1:32:32
but rent-seeking is, and so is virtue
1:32:36
signaling.
1:32:37
Make sure you audit your own local trash
1:32:38
and recycling facilities.
1:32:40
You may be shocked at what you find.
1:32:42
Yeah, this of course has been noticed all
1:32:45
over the world with this bin scandal.
1:32:48
Yeah.
1:32:48
By the way, don't you think it's a
1:32:50
good no agenda?
1:32:51
Before you say that, I just wanted, before
1:32:53
I lose my train of thought on this,
1:32:55
there's a bin at Costco that has three
1:32:59
holes.
1:33:00
It says, you know, cups, garbage.
1:33:02
It goes into the same bin.
1:33:05
Three holes with the one bag.
1:33:08
Three holes, one bag.
1:33:09
There's your show title.
1:33:12
Three holes, one bag.
1:33:13
I'm telling you, that's your show title right
1:33:15
there.
1:33:16
Three holes, one bag.
1:33:19
Maybe a no agenda premium, dare I say,
1:33:22
exit strategy, is just an empty box that
1:33:25
says, you know, this is where I store
1:33:27
my carbon credits.
1:33:30
Carbon.
1:33:30
Carbon credits box.
1:33:32
It'd be the pet rock of a-
1:33:33
The carbon credit box, which reminds me, I
1:33:36
think in three weeks, we have the best
1:33:39
of no agenda exit strategies.
1:33:41
Tina and I listened to the first 20
1:33:43
minutes.
1:33:44
She, of course, she hasn't heard any of
1:33:46
our crazy- Great ideas.
1:33:48
Great ideas.
1:33:49
By the way, they're mostly mine, and you're
1:33:51
always in on it, and then they fizzle
1:33:53
out.
1:33:55
That must be, I'm sabotaging them.
1:33:58
I mean, we were crying at points, just
1:34:02
crying over the excellent ideas that, she's like,
1:34:05
I could have been married to a rich
1:34:08
guy.
1:34:08
What were you thinking?
1:34:10
Why did you not follow up on that?
1:34:12
I mentioned as an example, the no agenda
1:34:15
water that had 17 virgins around it, holding
1:34:19
up signs called love, and that would be
1:34:22
better water, according to the crystal theory.
1:34:25
I mean, we had some real doozies, including
1:34:27
your strip club exit strategy, which is in
1:34:30
the first hour is pretty good, when you
1:34:33
do all the girls.
1:34:35
The strip clubs.
1:34:36
Yeah.
1:34:37
Well, here we have, this is the climate.
1:34:39
This is a scandal that kind of been
1:34:42
overshadowed by the big, beautiful bill, but I
1:34:44
thought this was pretty funny, because if you
1:34:47
start thinking about it, it's like, oh, the
1:34:50
research, we're losing our research for this and
1:34:52
that, because of the government.
1:34:54
Why is the government responsible for research anyway?
1:34:57
It should be private industry.
1:34:59
Bell Labs, which invented the silicon world, the
1:35:03
world we live in today, was not a
1:35:05
government operation.
1:35:06
Well, we have the cloud, John.
1:35:08
The scientific cloud is coming.
1:35:11
So here's the climate website, gone.
1:35:14
Oh, goodness.
1:35:15
The Trump administration has shut down a website
1:35:18
that's home to a series of major national
1:35:21
reports on climate change.
1:35:23
NPR's Alejandra Barunda reports on what that means.
1:35:26
Back in the 1990s, Congress asked U.S.
1:35:29
scientists to produce a series of reports.
1:35:31
The National Climate Assessments were supposed to come
1:35:33
out every four years, and they were intended
1:35:35
to round up the best, newest research on
1:35:37
how climate change affects the country.
1:35:40
Over the decades, those reports homed in on
1:35:43
one big point.
1:35:44
What the National Climate Assessment showed so clearly
1:35:46
is that if you are a human being
1:35:48
living in the United States, your life is
1:35:51
already being impacted by climate change, whether you
1:35:54
know it or not.
1:35:55
That's Catherine Hayhoe.
1:35:56
She's the chief scientist at the Nature Conservancy
1:35:58
and a climate scientist who has worked on
1:36:00
several of the assessments.
1:36:01
If we don't recognize that, it's simply because
1:36:03
we haven't connected the dots.
1:36:05
And the National Climate Assessment was one of
1:36:07
the primary tools connecting those dots.
1:36:10
Hundreds of scientists worked on the reports.
1:36:12
They were used by policymakers, city planners, business
1:36:15
owners, and regular people to figure out things
1:36:18
like where neighborhoods might be endangered by sea
1:36:20
level rise or which places were most at
1:36:22
risk during heat waves or droughts.
1:36:24
Hayhoe says the reports also pointed out ways
1:36:27
to solve the challenges.
1:36:29
The choices that we make today will determine
1:36:31
the magnitude of the impacts we face tomorrow.
1:36:34
Urban planning expert Ladd Keith from the University
1:36:37
of Arizona says the loss of the reports
1:36:39
will leave many smaller cities or rural areas
1:36:41
in the dark about their climate risks.
1:36:43
A lot of them rely on the National
1:36:45
Climate Assessment because they don't have the resources
1:36:47
locally to do their own climate profiles or
1:36:50
to explore the impacts of climate change in
1:36:52
their own community.
1:36:53
Keith says the loss of the reports, along
1:36:55
with other federal climate data sets.
1:36:57
It's a little bit like watching the modern
1:36:59
version of a book burning.
1:37:01
I like my climate profile.
1:37:04
Modern version of a book burning because you
1:37:07
took a website down.
1:37:08
Yeah, that's book burning.
1:37:09
That's right.
1:37:11
Yeah.
1:37:12
Here's part two.
1:37:13
A NASA spokesperson told NPR that PDFs of
1:37:15
the reports will eventually find a new home
1:37:18
on a NASA website, but they don't know
1:37:20
when.
1:37:21
And there are even more questions about the
1:37:23
next edition of the assessment, which was in
1:37:26
progress and was supposed to come out in
1:37:28
2027.
1:37:29
But in April, the Trump administration dismissed all
1:37:32
the scientists working on it, including Keith.
1:37:38
The guy complaining, yeah, okay.
1:37:41
You know, the federal, the big, beautiful bill,
1:37:47
speaking of NASA, is cutting NASA's budget drastically.
1:37:52
Did you know that?
1:37:53
No.
1:37:54
What's the rationale?
1:37:56
Well, a lot of it is climate nonsense.
1:37:59
I had, who, this is, I can't remember
1:38:03
who did this report.
1:38:03
I think it's a Colorado local station.
1:38:06
Now, beyond the spending bill, the federal government's
1:38:08
budget proposal next year contains even more cuts,
1:38:11
and one could slash NASA's science funding nearly
1:38:14
in half.
1:38:15
A Denver 7 viewer sent us this email
1:38:17
saying he feels like this story is slipping
1:38:19
through the cracks, asking us to dig into
1:38:21
how this could impact Colorado's aerospace industry.
1:38:24
So Denver 7's Colette Bordelon is on it
1:38:26
tonight.
1:38:27
She spent the day in Boulder hearing from
1:38:28
CU scientists who fear one of the Mars
1:38:30
missions could be on the chopping block.
1:38:32
By the way, I'm all for cutting the
1:38:34
stupid Mars mission.
1:38:36
Stop that nonsense.
1:38:38
Why?
1:38:39
Why?
1:38:40
Why do we have to pretend we can
1:38:42
go there and blast through the firmament?
1:38:44
No.
1:38:45
And liftoff of the Atlas V with Maybach.
1:38:49
I've always loved space.
1:38:50
It's been something that's just brought me joy
1:38:53
since I was a little kid.
1:38:54
Some of us grew up fascinated.
1:38:56
This is a NASA scientist.
1:38:57
Bull crap.
1:38:58
This is the money we're spending.
1:38:59
Space has always brought me joy when I
1:39:02
was a little kid.
1:39:03
What else is out there?
1:39:05
A place where we can dream.
1:39:07
Lisa Upton took that dream and became a
1:39:09
solar scientist.
1:39:10
We see, you know, budget cuts from time
1:39:14
and time again.
1:39:15
But she's worried about what's outlined in the
1:39:17
recommendations for NASA from the federal government in
1:39:20
fiscal year 2026's budget proposal.
1:39:22
We're looking at a 50% cut to
1:39:25
the NASA science budget.
1:39:26
I mean, that's- Can you stop the
1:39:27
clip?
1:39:28
Yeah.
1:39:29
Do we know that these are cuts or
1:39:31
cuts in the increase?
1:39:34
This cut thing we've talked about on this
1:39:36
show, it's a little tedious to talk about
1:39:38
it again, but 99% of the time
1:39:41
they talk about a cut, they're not really
1:39:43
cutting anything.
1:39:44
They're cutting the increase.
1:39:46
What they're cutting here is a true cut.
1:39:49
This is all money that was in the
1:39:52
Green New Deal.
1:39:54
Okay, well that's probably a true cut.
1:39:56
This is all climate change money.
1:39:57
And unless I know for a fact it's
1:39:58
a true cut, I'm still thinking it's a
1:40:00
cut in the increase.
1:40:02
Well, having read through the bill, this is
1:40:05
a cut in the- This is about
1:40:07
climate change.
1:40:08
These people are doing climate research on Mars.
1:40:11
What are they talking about is space.
1:40:12
It's on Mars.
1:40:13
Well, the next clip you'll hear.
1:40:15
From the federal government in fiscal year 2026's
1:40:17
budget proposal.
1:40:18
We're looking at a 50% cut to
1:40:20
the NASA science budget.
1:40:22
I mean, that's devastating.
1:40:24
What was it like for you to say
1:40:25
that?
1:40:26
It makes me sad, you know?
1:40:27
It makes me sad for- But it
1:40:31
makes her sad mainly for herself.
1:40:33
You know, my friends, my colleagues, you know,
1:40:36
my family.
1:40:37
These impacts aren't just about today, tomorrow, next
1:40:41
week, next year.
1:40:42
These impacts are long lasting.
1:40:44
Yes, so this scientist, she looked like a
1:40:47
scientist.
1:40:48
You know, I'm not shaming her, but she
1:40:51
should consider some dental work.
1:40:53
And so then they go to Merva.
1:40:56
This is the inside NASA research.
1:41:00
And now they've got the pretty PR girl.
1:41:03
And she's really good.
1:41:04
And she's gonna tell us, oh, these programs
1:41:07
will stop.
1:41:07
That's MAVEN.
1:41:08
And MAVEN is the Mars- MAVEN, sorry.
1:41:11
Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution Mission Panel.
1:41:13
This is Shannon Curry.
1:41:15
My life's work has been- No relation.
1:41:17
On Mars.
1:41:18
The principal investigator of NASA's MAVEN mission, led
1:41:21
by scientists at CU Boulder.
1:41:23
MAVEN is the best observer of atmospheric escape
1:41:27
and evolution, not just at Mars, but anywhere
1:41:29
in the solar system.
1:41:31
Some of the cuts include eliminating funding for
1:41:33
quote, low priority climate monitoring satellites, scaling back
1:41:37
or eliminating technology projects that are not needed
1:41:40
by NASA.
1:41:41
Who knew we even had climate monitoring satellites?
1:41:44
What is this?
1:41:45
Yeah, I knew we did.
1:41:47
Or better suited to the private sector and
1:41:49
eliminating climate-focused green aviation.
1:41:52
There you are, John.
1:41:52
That's exactly what you're saying.
1:41:54
Leave that to the private sector.
1:41:56
Let them spend the money.
1:41:57
You're absolutely on point here.
1:41:59
Needed by NASA or better suited to the
1:42:01
private sector and eliminating climate-focused green aviation
1:42:05
spending.
1:42:06
The proposed budget for fiscal year 26 would
1:42:09
end dozens of active missions within NASA and
1:42:12
missions we're starting to already build.
1:42:14
Notice they call research missions.
1:42:17
These are our missions.
1:42:17
So when we're doing show prep, it's not
1:42:20
show prep, it's show mission.
1:42:21
Year 26 would end dozens of active missions
1:42:25
within NASA and missions we're starting to already
1:42:27
build.
1:42:28
It would cancel Nathan, yes.
1:42:29
And with that cancellation, she says, comes job
1:42:32
loss.
1:42:33
American leadership in space isn't just about being
1:42:36
number one, it's about jobs.
1:42:38
All of the aerospace industry provides jobs here
1:42:40
in the state of Colorado, as well as
1:42:42
the entire nation.
1:42:43
Just in the state of Colorado, there's $5
1:42:45
billion in economic output just in the aerospace
1:42:48
industry.
1:42:49
Concerns Curry can't shake.
1:42:51
If the proposed budget goes through, NASA may
1:42:54
never be the same.
1:42:55
With those who grew up fascinated by outer
1:42:58
space.
1:42:59
It will never recover the kind of talent
1:43:01
and the kind of intellectual capabilities and capacity
1:43:05
it has now.
1:43:06
Hoping that same kind of spark can survive.
1:43:10
No, you're gonna be building big, beautiful ships
1:43:14
and submarines, shifting it away from climate monitoring
1:43:21
satellites.
1:43:23
Yeah, I think that's probably a very good
1:43:25
thing.
1:43:28
I'm all for it, I'm all for it,
1:43:31
it's good.
1:43:33
You're known to be anti-science.
1:43:38
Yeah, there you go, thank you, everyone knows
1:43:41
it.
1:43:42
I'm known to be anti-science.
1:43:44
I have one science clip.
1:43:49
Science.
1:43:50
About tick, tick advice for the summer.
1:43:53
Alpha Gal is back, baby.
1:43:55
Bad year for tick bites.
1:43:56
Data from the CDC show people are seeking
1:43:58
emergency care at the highest rate since 2019.
1:44:02
So if you're planning a hike or a
1:44:04
trip to the park and wanna avoid these
1:44:06
blood sucking bugs, NPR's Ping Huang has some
1:44:09
tips to help you fend them off.
1:44:11
There are about a dozen different ticks in
1:44:12
the U.S. that can cause problems for
1:44:14
human health.
1:44:15
In the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic and Upper Midwest,
1:44:18
the biggest problem is Lyme disease.
1:44:20
Thomas Park is an infectious disease microbiologist at
1:44:23
Johns Hopkins University in Maryland.
1:44:25
He says Lyme disease is transmitted by infected
1:44:28
deer ticks.
1:44:29
You can encounter these ticks really at any
1:44:30
time of the year but they're gonna be
1:44:32
the most active in warmer months and they
1:44:34
tend to live in a woody or grassy
1:44:37
area.
1:44:37
In the Central and Southeastern U.S., ehrlichiosis
1:44:40
and spotted fever rickettsiosis are top concerns along
1:44:44
with a tick-induced allergy to red meat.
1:44:46
Tick bites are less common in the West
1:44:48
but they also happen there and can spread
1:44:50
Lyme disease, anaplasmosis and a few other things.
1:44:53
If all of this is making you itchy,
1:44:56
Allison Hinckley, an epidemiologist with CDC says there
1:44:59
are precautions you can take.
1:45:01
You can wear insect repellent treated clothing.
1:45:04
We call that a permethrin treated clothing.
1:45:07
That's a really easy thing to do.
1:45:08
Cover up as much skin as possible and
1:45:10
check yourself daily.
1:45:12
Showering when you come in from outside really
1:45:14
has shown to be a good way to
1:45:16
prevent tick-borne diseases.
1:45:17
That's because the longer a tick feeds on
1:45:19
you, the higher the risk of infection.
1:45:21
So if you find a tick, take it
1:45:23
off right away.
1:45:24
The best way is to use tweezers, grab
1:45:26
it as close to the skin as you
1:45:27
can and find out what type of tick
1:45:29
it is and how long it's been feeding
1:45:31
on you.
1:45:32
If it's a deer tick and you're in
1:45:33
an area where Lyme disease is common, Hinckley
1:45:35
says see a doctor.
1:45:37
The only time you would get an antibiotic
1:45:39
after a tick bite and before any symptoms,
1:45:43
it would be to prevent Lyme disease.
1:45:44
And in that case, we recommend just a
1:45:46
single dose.
1:45:47
Otherwise, watch for symptoms like fever, aches, and
1:45:50
rash.
1:45:50
If those show up, Hinckley says seek medical
1:45:53
care.
1:45:54
Alpha-gal, alpha-gal comes back, the return
1:45:57
of alpha-gal.
1:45:58
You know, you kind of blew past the
1:45:59
NASA stuff.
1:46:00
I wanted to ask you your opinion of
1:46:03
the musk op.
1:46:05
What's the musk op?
1:46:06
Well, that's what we don't really know.
1:46:08
I mean, do you still think- No,
1:46:10
we don't.
1:46:10
Do you still think President Trump and Elon
1:46:12
Musk are playing together in order to-
1:46:15
Yeah, I do.
1:46:16
How does that work with- I have
1:46:19
no idea.
1:46:19
It's an op.
1:46:21
I'm not read in.
1:46:23
The thing that I see popping up the
1:46:26
most about the musk op is the Epstein,
1:46:31
the Epstein files.
1:46:34
Yeah, because that's what Elon said and everyone
1:46:37
says, oh, you know, that's why he's right.
1:46:39
He's right.
1:46:40
And of course, the logic, I'm bringing the
1:46:41
logic back for people who haven't heard this
1:46:43
before.
1:46:43
The logic is that if there's anything about
1:46:45
Trump in the Epstein tapes or files, it
1:46:48
would have been brought out during the campaign
1:46:50
against Harris because they had the stuff at
1:46:52
the time.
1:46:53
So, and it wasn't.
1:46:54
So, there's obviously nothing.
1:46:56
Yes, but the way people who have very
1:46:59
short memory spans read it is, yes, this
1:47:02
is exactly why the Mossad is holding this
1:47:06
over Trump.
1:47:07
Mossad.
1:47:07
Yes, I'm telling you, I'm just telling you.
1:47:10
Yeah, no, I understand.
1:47:11
It makes sense if you think about it
1:47:12
from an illogical position.
1:47:15
You're not being logical.
1:47:16
Yeah.
1:47:18
By the way, the only thing Elon Musk
1:47:19
never rails against is China.
1:47:22
I looked at, he does about $22 billion
1:47:25
a year in revenue from China.
1:47:26
Oh yeah, he's got a big factory in
1:47:28
China.
1:47:28
And he has all, he has investors in
1:47:31
all of his companies, I think, except SpaceX,
1:47:34
probably, in China.
1:47:37
But I think SpaceX is just pure government
1:47:40
at this point.
1:47:42
It's all NASA people.
1:47:43
Yeah, it's a replacement for NASA.
1:47:45
It's all ex-NASA guys that lost their
1:47:47
jobs.
1:47:48
Yeah, yeah.
1:47:49
Which reminds me of when people, when that
1:47:51
woman was bitching and moaning in Colorado about
1:47:53
all these, all these guys decided we're going
1:47:55
to lose all this talent.
1:47:57
No, they're going to go someplace else.
1:47:58
They're not lost.
1:47:59
It's not like the guy's a world-class
1:48:02
physicist who can figure something out and he's
1:48:04
going to shoot himself in the head because
1:48:05
he lost his job there.
1:48:07
It doesn't seem right.
1:48:08
I think, I think I have two clips
1:48:11
here that are related when it comes to
1:48:16
Israel and the Middle East, Gaza, et cetera.
1:48:22
In the Middle East, both Israel and Hamas
1:48:24
have stopped short of accepting a 60-day
1:48:26
ceasefire proposal put forth by President Trump.
1:48:30
But a top Israeli official says they are,
1:48:32
quote, serious about reaching a deal.
1:48:34
Still, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today doubled
1:48:37
down on his vow to, quote, eliminate Hamas.
1:48:40
That was after Trump said Israel had agreed
1:48:43
to the terms of the deal.
1:48:45
For its part, Hamas insisted that any deal
1:48:47
must bring a complete end to the war
1:48:49
in Gaza where scores of Palestinians, most of
1:48:52
them civilians, have died in recent days from
1:48:55
Israeli strikes.
1:48:56
So we had emails back and forth with
1:48:58
a couple of our producers in the region.
1:49:02
Yeah, you don't want to be mentioned.
1:49:03
I'm not going to mention our producers in
1:49:05
the region.
1:49:06
And the general consensus in the region is
1:49:10
that the people in Gaza will be moved
1:49:13
out for the rebelization to finalize and the
1:49:18
rebuilding to start to Syria.
1:49:20
Well, wouldn't you know it?
1:49:21
After more than 20 years, Syria can rejoin
1:49:24
the global economy.
1:49:25
President Trump ended the national emergency imposed in
1:49:28
2004 that placed harsh sanctions on the country.
1:49:32
These measures targeted state-linked entities such as
1:49:35
Syria's central bank and other major financial institutions.
1:49:39
This is in an effort to promote and
1:49:41
support the country's path to stability and peace.
1:49:44
The order will remove sanctions on Syria while
1:49:47
maintaining sanctions on the former President Assad, his
1:49:50
associates, human rights abusers, drug traffickers, persons linked
1:49:54
to chemical weapons activities, ISIS and their affiliates,
1:49:57
and Iranian proxies.
1:49:59
Damascus welcomed the decision.
1:50:01
The country's foreign minister said it marked a
1:50:03
major turning point and the doors to long
1:50:05
-awaited reconstruction and development are opened.
1:50:08
There are still some sanctions in place, including
1:50:11
what is known as the Caesar Act, introduced
1:50:13
in 2019 over human rights concerns in Syria.
1:50:17
This was brought in by Congress and was
1:50:19
designed to punish those who did business with
1:50:21
the Assad regime.
1:50:22
While the US said it wants the war
1:50:24
-torn country to rebuild, American officials stressed they
1:50:27
would not be nation-building or dictating how
1:50:29
Syria should function.
1:50:31
In addition to President Trump's decision, Israel said
1:50:34
it was open to establishing diplomatic ties with
1:50:37
Syria.
1:50:38
Israel is interested in expanding the Abraham Accords
1:50:42
circle of peace and normalization.
1:50:45
We have an interest in adding countries such
1:50:49
as Syria and Lebanon, our neighbors, to the
1:50:53
circle of peace and normalization while safeguarding Israel's
1:50:57
essential and security interests.
1:51:00
I like the circle of peace and normalization.
1:51:02
I think it's on.
1:51:03
I think our people in the region are
1:51:06
right.
1:51:07
I think they might be, and the process
1:51:09
is supposed to be a 10-year one.
1:51:11
Yeah, you mean they're gonna be in Syria
1:51:13
for 10 years?
1:51:14
Yeah, for 10 years, and they're gonna take,
1:51:16
and if you look at the pictures of
1:51:17
Gaza, it's rubbilized.
1:51:19
Yeah, so I think the way it would
1:51:21
work is, all right, everybody, off you go
1:51:24
over the Golan Heights into Syria.
1:51:26
Papers, please, let me check.
1:51:28
Let me see, are you Hamas?
1:51:29
No, okay, you're good.
1:51:30
And then whatever's left is gonna be pulverized.
1:51:34
Yeah, and then pulled off.
1:51:37
And what Trump suggested, it would be done.
1:51:42
It won't be his, he won't own it,
1:51:45
like he thought that was, it's kind of
1:51:46
funny.
1:51:47
Jared Kushner will.
1:51:49
It'll be rebuilt as a giant Hayward kind
1:51:54
of a place.
1:51:56
Some sort of a tourist destination in a
1:51:58
suburb of the United States.
1:52:00
Yeah.
1:52:00
It won't be pleasant, but.
1:52:02
But it seems like, I have not heard
1:52:05
anyone connect these dots.
1:52:08
No, well, I mean, I'm sure they connect
1:52:10
the dots in the Middle East where they
1:52:12
gossip a lot.
1:52:13
I mean, if you've ever been there and
1:52:14
people, I know you have, but a lot
1:52:17
of people haven't been to any of these
1:52:19
places, but you go to any of those
1:52:21
countries, they gossip all the time and they
1:52:24
seem to resolve, they figure it out.
1:52:27
Yeah, yeah.
1:52:31
So we have people over there that says
1:52:34
we're not there now and we're not gossiping
1:52:36
in the Middle East.
1:52:37
We don't need to, we got our people.
1:52:38
We got our people gossiping for us, yes,
1:52:41
in the coffee houses.
1:52:43
So there was one other, and this pertains,
1:52:47
I'm going back to Elon, just because it's
1:52:50
all out of order.
1:52:51
We probably all heard the president say this
1:52:54
about Doge eating Elon.
1:52:56
I don't know, I think we'll have to
1:52:58
take a look.
1:52:59
We might have to put Doge on Elon,
1:53:02
you know?
1:53:02
You know, Doge is going to
1:53:17
be terminated.
1:53:18
And you know what?
1:53:18
When you look at it, who wants, not
1:53:21
everybody wants an electric car.
1:53:23
I don't want an electric car.
1:53:24
I want to have maybe gasoline, maybe electric,
1:53:27
maybe a hybrid, maybe someday a hydrogen.
1:53:30
If you have a hydrogen car, it has
1:53:32
one problem, it blows up, you know?
1:53:35
So there's the president clearly signaling hydrogen.
1:53:40
It may be someday I'll drive a hydrogen
1:53:41
car, but it has a disadvantage.
1:53:43
It might blow up.
1:53:44
In the BBB, a surprise two-year extension
1:53:48
of the clean hydrogen tax credits.
1:53:51
Yeah, the hydrogen thing is just, it's not
1:53:54
working.
1:53:54
We were supposed to have a hydrogen station
1:53:57
over here in El Cerrito.
1:53:59
Isn't that the one that caught fire?
1:54:01
No.
1:54:02
Well, they had that bus in San Francisco,
1:54:04
I think, caught fire.
1:54:06
I'm not familiar with the fire, but they
1:54:09
haven't done it.
1:54:11
They put in some E85 pumps and then
1:54:14
they changed the ownership and they're not going
1:54:16
to put hydrogen there ever.
1:54:18
The whole thing is- Well, for some
1:54:21
reason, they got an extension for the hydrogen
1:54:23
tax credits.
1:54:24
I don't know.
1:54:25
Maybe Toyota or someone is doing that.
1:54:28
There's got to be some- Toyota is
1:54:30
the most skeptical of the companies.
1:54:31
They don't like, you know, they've got their
1:54:33
hybrid and they think that's as far as
1:54:35
you should go.
1:54:36
Yeah.
1:54:37
Although Toyota did make a hydrogen car and
1:54:39
I think they still have one out.
1:54:41
Yeah.
1:54:42
I've driven.
1:54:43
They're fun to drive because they make a
1:54:45
whining sound when you punch it.
1:54:48
Oh, really?
1:54:50
Yeah.
1:54:50
Why is that?
1:54:51
What generates the whining sound?
1:54:53
It's the hydrogen going through the- It's
1:54:55
a- Through the tube.
1:54:57
No, it's through a membrane or something.
1:55:01
It's a fuel cell.
1:55:03
And when you punch the hydrogen through it,
1:55:06
it makes a high-pitched screech.
1:55:12
I got one more short clip just because
1:55:15
it's fun before we take a little break
1:55:17
here.
1:55:18
This is from the Ice Barbie, Chrissy Gnome.
1:55:22
Yeah.
1:55:23
Now she's walking around with sleeveless.
1:55:25
Look at my guns.
1:55:27
I'm the Ice Barbie.
1:55:28
Yeah, she is a, she likes to, she's
1:55:33
a prancer.
1:55:33
There's a word I'm looking for that she
1:55:35
likes to prance.
1:55:36
She's a prancer.
1:55:37
Ew, I'm thin.
1:55:39
Ice Barbie, the Prancer Gnome.
1:55:42
And she just had a remarkable little story
1:55:44
about some of the degenerates we're sending back
1:55:48
with ice.
1:55:49
And because those liberals, and I'm calling out
1:55:51
you, CNN, I'm calling you out because you
1:55:54
lie every single day about what these operations
1:55:56
are.
1:55:57
We are going after murderers and rapists and
1:56:00
traffickers and drug dealers and getting them off
1:56:03
the streets and getting them out of this
1:56:05
country because Joe Biden let the worst of
1:56:07
the worst come in here.
1:56:08
The other day, I was talking to some
1:56:09
marshals that have been partnering with ice.
1:56:11
They said that they had detained a cannibal
1:56:13
and put him on a plane to take
1:56:15
him home.
1:56:16
And while they had him in his seat,
1:56:17
he started to eat himself.
1:56:19
And they had to get him off and
1:56:20
get him medical attention.
1:56:21
These are the kind of deranged individuals that
1:56:24
are- I think you're the worst cannibal
1:56:26
ever.
1:56:27
If you start to eat yourself- Wow,
1:56:29
I never heard this clip.
1:56:30
I'm giving you a borderline for this one.
1:56:34
Borderline!
1:56:35
Borderline!
1:56:37
And he started to eat himself.
1:56:41
He was hungry.
1:56:42
He failed the cannibal test.
1:56:44
That's not how it's supposed to work, bro.
1:56:46
That's not what you do.
1:56:48
Started to eat himself.
1:56:50
My goodness.
1:56:51
Hey, with that, I want to thank you
1:56:52
for your courage.
1:56:52
Say in the morning to you, the man
1:56:53
who put the C and bend the curve.
1:56:55
Say hello to my friend on the other
1:56:57
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.
1:57:06
DeVore!
1:57:09
Yeah, hello, good morning to you, Mr. Adam
1:57:11
Curry.
1:57:11
In the morning, all ships, seaboots on the
1:57:13
ground, feet in the air, subs in the
1:57:14
water, day and nights out there.
1:57:15
In the morning to the trolls in the
1:57:16
troll room.
1:57:17
Let me cut to you.
1:57:22
1789.
1:57:24
1789, low.
1:57:25
It is 4th of July weekend.
1:57:27
In case you hadn't noticed, we're working because
1:57:29
we pretty much always work on the holidays.
1:57:31
It's the best time.
1:57:33
That's when everyone else is off.
1:57:34
They're leaving.
1:57:36
That's why CNN is like, you know, can
1:57:38
you just do that?
1:57:39
Jeffrey's- They had nothing but substitute hosts
1:57:42
on all the shows.
1:57:43
Because everybody's off.
1:57:44
They're all leaving town.
1:57:45
Like, I got the 249th birthday of America
1:57:49
to celebrate.
1:57:50
If you're somebody, Jesse Waters is on vacation,
1:57:53
for example.
1:57:54
No, Jesse.
1:57:55
If you, oh, what a shame.
1:57:56
And so it's like, if you have the
1:57:59
whole year, and you're, why don't you take
1:58:02
a vacation in some off-season time where
1:58:05
there's nobody out, where the roads aren't crowded,
1:58:08
and you can get rooms cheaper, and all
1:58:11
the rest of it, and have a vacation.
1:58:13
Why do you have to, why does it
1:58:14
have to be a groupthink vacation where everybody's
1:58:17
on vacation?
1:58:18
I know, be like the Dvoraks and celebrate
1:58:20
your birthdays two weeks later.
1:58:22
In fact, are you celebrating the 4th of
1:58:24
July on the 8th this year, or when
1:58:26
are you doing it?
1:58:27
Well, tonight's the fireworks, so.
1:58:29
Oh, you mean in the mist, in the
1:58:33
fog?
1:58:33
No, no, the fire, we have, well, it
1:58:37
did fog in early a little bit, but
1:58:39
usually the day before the 4th, which is
1:58:41
the 3rd, Richmond over here has fireworks closer
1:58:46
to my house, and they're very visible, and
1:58:50
it's a really good display.
1:58:51
It's the day before, the next day, it's
1:58:53
fogged in.
1:58:54
Almost the 4th of July is just always
1:58:55
fogged in.
1:58:57
And it's just beyond me why people just
1:59:00
don't have the 4th of July when you
1:59:04
can see the fireworks instead of in the
1:59:05
fog.
1:59:06
I don't understand it.
1:59:08
Well, the 4th, it's the day, man.
1:59:12
I mean, you got to blame the founders.
1:59:14
You got to blame those guys for doing
1:59:16
it.
1:59:16
Declaration of Independence, you know.
1:59:18
Yeah, but they never said that you can
1:59:19
only celebrate it on that day.
1:59:21
I know, you celebrate Christmas in January in
1:59:24
the- Sometimes.
1:59:25
Yeah, I've only seen you celebrate Thanksgiving on
1:59:29
this Thanksgiving day once.
1:59:32
I mean, it's okay.
1:59:33
When my mom was alive, we always did.
1:59:35
Yeah, because your mom kept you in check.
1:59:37
That's when it all went wrong, when she
1:59:38
passed, it was over.
1:59:42
I love, I wish I had met mom
1:59:44
Dvorak, I bet she was awesome.
1:59:46
I bet she was funny.
1:59:48
Did you ever meet my mom, Valerie?
1:59:51
No, I never met your mom, I never
1:59:52
met your dad, and I never met your
1:59:54
first wife.
1:59:55
Missing out on nothing.
1:59:57
I did talk to your first wife, but
1:59:58
never met her.
1:59:59
Oh, really?
2:00:00
I didn't know that.
2:00:00
Yeah, when we had conversations, and when you
2:00:03
were in England, and she'd get on the
2:00:05
phone once in a while.
2:00:05
Oh, right, right, right, right.
2:00:07
Well, that wasn't really, she was yelling in
2:00:09
the background, clean up your crap.
2:00:16
Trolls, a little low, but there it is.
2:00:19
Still happy to have so many checking in
2:00:21
and listening, we appreciate that.
2:00:24
Sure you wanted to hear about the big,
2:00:25
beautiful bill, well, you got exactly what.
2:00:27
Look, the Cheshire cat, he couldn't be smiling
2:00:29
more Cheshire-y these days.
2:00:31
Mike Johnson, oh my goodness.
2:00:33
He is just, he, he, he.
2:00:36
I did it, buff, I got it through.
2:00:40
Yeah, well, he did it.
2:00:41
He did it, yeah, he did it.
2:00:44
They're listening at trollroom.io, where they can
2:00:47
jump into the actual troll room and troll
2:00:49
along as much as they want to.
2:00:53
Of course, they can also listen on the
2:00:54
Modern Podcast.
2:00:55
That's, by the way, Fountain, well-known for
2:00:58
their deep integration of the Boostergram.
2:01:01
They have now added into their system, if
2:01:06
you want to donate to the show, I
2:01:09
think, I think it's set up, I don't
2:01:10
know, because we have Stripe, right?
2:01:12
So I'm going to have that, put that
2:01:14
in there for us, that you can just
2:01:16
hit the donate button right there in the
2:01:20
podcast app, and then with your Apple Pay
2:01:22
or your Google Pay or whatever else you
2:01:24
have, you can send a donation, any amount.
2:01:27
They're moving it closer.
2:01:29
So you don't even have to go to
2:01:30
noagendadonations.com.
2:01:31
What are you humming, hemming and hawing about?
2:01:34
Well, yeah, when I see the money.
2:01:36
I see.
2:01:39
They, believe me, they're going to make that
2:01:41
happen into our own Stripe account.
2:01:44
It's going to happen.
2:01:45
Okay, well, sorry, I'm doing, sorry, I'm being
2:01:48
innovative.
2:01:50
No, it's not, you're right.
2:01:54
You're owning, you own Fountain?
2:01:56
No, I don't own Fountain, I own nothing
2:01:59
of Fountain.
2:02:00
Oh.
2:02:01
What do you mean?
2:02:01
Why would you say that?
2:02:03
Because you said you were being innovative and
2:02:05
I thought it was Fountain doing it.
2:02:06
Well, it's the Podcasting 2.0 guys.
2:02:09
You know, it's an open source group.
2:02:11
Open source group.
2:02:11
Well, we know that.
2:02:12
We already know that that's the best product
2:02:15
in the best of breed.
2:02:17
Used to call it best of breed.
2:02:19
They don't call it, use that term anymore.
2:02:21
Best of breed.
2:02:22
Best of breed.
2:02:22
Yeah, no, there's reasons.
2:02:24
I don't think people care about best of
2:02:25
breed anymore.
2:02:26
They just want likes.
2:02:29
Of course, you can support us in many
2:02:31
different ways, time, talent, or treasure.
2:02:33
It's the value for value model.
2:02:36
And it's been working for us.
2:02:38
We're still here.
2:02:39
We're still, you know, getting by in the
2:02:42
life of a podcaster.
2:02:43
We like it though.
2:02:44
We like the abuse.
2:02:45
We like the roller coaster ride that value
2:02:48
for value is.
2:02:49
And the different ways that people support us
2:02:52
are with Boots on the Ground, people who
2:02:54
are organizing No Agenda meetups, websites, hosting, all
2:02:59
kinds of things that people have done over
2:03:00
the years.
2:03:01
And we, I think we're very lucky that
2:03:03
we got an actual artist whose art showed
2:03:06
up on the noagendaartgenerator.com website for the
2:03:10
last show, Capitalist Agenda.
2:03:13
And now we don't know how much of
2:03:15
this was him, how much of it was
2:03:16
AI, but it was 100% Capitalist Agenda.
2:03:20
This was the artwork, which was a No
2:03:22
Agenda boomer con and the little running microphone,
2:03:26
which we both liked immensely.
2:03:27
It was very Capagenda-like.
2:03:31
It's a good piece.
2:03:32
Yeah, yeah.
2:03:33
It's catchy, looks good, super professional looking.
2:03:37
It looks like we know what we're doing.
2:03:38
Yeah, and everything else was 100% AI.
2:03:42
The end of show mixes today are also
2:03:44
all AI, so get ready for that.
2:03:46
Yeah, this is, okay, well, I heard these
2:03:49
at the beginning.
2:03:50
I do like the one that used that,
2:03:53
whatever the tone thing is that helps people
2:03:57
keep on key.
2:03:58
And then of course you push it up
2:03:59
to the limits and it makes funny sounds.
2:04:01
I like the first one.
2:04:03
The second and third ones, you know, it,
2:04:06
the first, you know, Please, don't hold back.
2:04:09
They all sound, they were all a little
2:04:12
too slick.
2:04:13
Yeah.
2:04:14
And they're, and it's slightly, very slight.
2:04:17
Then I'm, see, I'm hesitating to say these
2:04:20
things because I'm, you know, I'm pro-AI.
2:04:24
Auto-tune, you're pro-AI, auto-tune, yes.
2:04:27
Yeah, auto-tunes crank, you crank up the
2:04:28
auto-tune, you can make some funny sounds.
2:04:31
But I'm kind of pro, compared to you.
2:04:35
I'm very anti-AI, yes.
2:04:37
You're anti-AI, and then you open the
2:04:39
floodgates to AI songs.
2:04:43
What do you mean, what do you mean?
2:04:44
I said that I would do it on
2:04:46
the last show, and you are hating it.
2:04:48
Yeah, which is called opening the floodgates.
2:04:49
And you hate it now.
2:04:51
I don't hate it, but I would like
2:04:53
it to be.
2:04:54
It sucks, it's just like AI art.
2:04:57
It's okay, it's not great, it's soulless.
2:05:01
It's better than nothing, it's better than the
2:05:04
stuff we've been getting.
2:05:05
That's true.
2:05:06
But at the same time, it's so artificial
2:05:09
that it's slightly annoying, but it's, I think
2:05:14
it'll get better.
2:05:15
I just like the AI art.
2:05:17
I think that it'll get better.
2:05:18
Okay, that's what I'm going to say.
2:05:19
All right.
2:05:20
So keep doing the AI songs.
2:05:23
Keep them down to 110, don't go up.
2:05:25
Can I just say something?
2:05:26
People cannot take direction.
2:05:29
Both of the songs outside of that first
2:05:32
one were two minutes and 45 seconds.
2:05:35
We're not going to play your whole AI
2:05:37
song ever.
2:05:38
No, no, 110 max.
2:05:40
110 max, there you go.
2:05:42
110 max, and AI is incapable of doing
2:05:45
that.
2:05:46
It has to make a whole song, because
2:05:48
it doesn't know how to make a song
2:05:50
that's one minute and 10 seconds long.
2:05:51
AI is stupid.
2:05:52
If you can do an AI song that
2:05:55
has any quality to it whatsoever, and it
2:05:58
comes out at 240, you cut it down
2:06:00
to 110.
2:06:02
I don't feel like doing that the whole
2:06:03
time.
2:06:04
Not you.
2:06:04
Oh, I'm sorry.
2:06:06
No, people can't do that.
2:06:08
That's what I just said.
2:06:10
If you have the skills, you're a musician
2:06:13
or somebody who thinks you're a musician or
2:06:14
you're a musician wannabe, and you have the
2:06:17
skills to get the AI to punch out
2:06:19
a 240 song, you, the musician, not you,
2:06:23
Adam Curry.
2:06:23
You, the musician, should be able to find
2:06:26
an editor and cut it down to 110
2:06:29
and send that in.
2:06:31
Otherwise, I think you should just reject the
2:06:32
whole thing.
2:06:33
Right, but then we'll have no end of
2:06:35
show mixes.
2:06:36
No, we will, because these guys, you said
2:06:39
yourself the first one was 110, so that
2:06:42
guy could do it, whoever that was.
2:06:44
The auto-tune guy.
2:06:46
They're all auto-tune.
2:06:49
Yeah, the auto-tune guy.
2:06:51
Yeah, by the way, I have a couple
2:06:52
of AI clips for after the break.
2:06:55
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:06:57
Well, it's the most dangerous part of AI.
2:07:00
It's from CNN.
2:07:01
It was a good report.
2:07:01
I caught it this morning.
2:07:03
Oh, good.
2:07:05
Looking at the AI art, which has just
2:07:08
ruined art for me.
2:07:10
It's ruined it.
2:07:12
Was there anything else that we looked at
2:07:15
that we- Well, there wasn't anything so
2:07:16
spectacular.
2:07:17
No, because- No, you're right.
2:07:19
There were pieces that were okay.
2:07:20
Like what?
2:07:22
Well, I thought the she picture with him
2:07:25
drinking booze or something was kind of cute.
2:07:28
It wasn't cute.
2:07:29
It was dumb.
2:07:30
It was cute, and I thought, I used
2:07:32
one of the older pieces of one of
2:07:35
the girls for the newsletter in red, white,
2:07:39
and blue.
2:07:39
Of course you did.
2:07:41
I also liked it, this was for the
2:07:43
previous show, but I did like the Donald
2:07:45
J.
2:07:45
Washington piece where Darren put, had AI make
2:07:49
George Washington look like Trump.
2:07:52
I thought that was quite a good piece,
2:07:54
and I didn't get the compliment for that.
2:07:55
That actually wasn't all that bad.
2:07:56
Yeah, it wasn't all that bad.
2:07:59
Trump does, in that wig, looks a little
2:08:01
like George Washington.
2:08:03
By the way, we titled episode 1777, Java
2:08:07
Shack, and I went and played chess on
2:08:10
Monday, and the kids were all excited.
2:08:12
We talked about them.
2:08:14
They were all excited.
2:08:15
Did everybody listen to the show, and then
2:08:16
they went to track you down?
2:08:18
No, the baristas, the kids who work there,
2:08:20
they all listen to the show.
2:08:22
They love no agenda.
2:08:24
Yeah, they're smart kids.
2:08:25
Well, I'll get publicity for the- For
2:08:27
the Java Shack.
2:08:30
It's Java Ranch, but okay, Java Shack.
2:08:32
Java Ranch.
2:08:33
Well, thank you very much.
2:08:35
Java Ranch sounds like a salad dressing.
2:08:38
And a dessert topping.
2:08:40
It's very tasty.
2:08:41
Kids, thank you so much.
2:08:43
And in this case, the kid would be
2:08:45
Capagenda for bringing us the artwork for episode
2:08:47
1778.
2:08:49
Now we're going to thank, well, we thank
2:08:50
everybody who donates to the show, $50 and
2:08:53
above, not below 50 for reasons of anonymity.
2:08:56
And of course, we have those very long
2:08:58
layaway programs, sustaining donations.
2:09:02
And I think we even have maybe one
2:09:04
or two, we have nights coming up of
2:09:06
people who've been supporting us with $3 a
2:09:08
show for a long, long time.
2:09:10
Just like Hollywood, though, we do have a
2:09:12
little benefit for those of you who can
2:09:14
support us with $200 for an episode.
2:09:17
You get an Associate Executive Producer credit, which
2:09:19
is good everywhere Hollywood credits are recognized, including
2:09:21
IMDb, and we will read your note.
2:09:24
$300 or above, stand by.
2:09:27
You get an Executive Producer credit, and we
2:09:30
will read your note.
2:09:31
And we kick it off with Russell Hinton,
2:09:35
who comes right out of the gate from
2:09:38
Orlando, Florida, with $1,030.26, which I'm
2:09:42
thinking is $1,000 plus fees.
2:09:46
Is that $30 in fees for a stupid
2:09:50
website that PayPal maintains?
2:09:53
I don't know.
2:09:55
That's crazy.
2:09:56
It's high.
2:09:57
It is high.
2:09:58
Anyway, we appreciate that.
2:10:00
Russell, he says, looks like this will go
2:10:01
to show 1778.
2:10:03
Thank you for all you do.
2:10:04
Please use my real name for the Executive
2:10:06
Producer credit and instant knighthood along with the
2:10:09
PhD.
2:10:10
Russell Hinton.
2:10:12
And he says in parens here, I left
2:10:13
government contract work and became a nine to
2:10:16
12 high school teacher.
2:10:18
Well, thank you for your service, brother.
2:10:20
That's awesome.
2:10:21
Thank you so much.
2:10:24
You know, it's interesting, the fees are high,
2:10:25
but it results in us getting more money.
2:10:28
If they pay the fees, yes.
2:10:31
Yeah.
2:10:33
So that's kind of interesting.
2:10:36
Only you could think that way.
2:10:39
That's the way you think.
2:10:40
That's true.
2:10:42
Cousin Vito, by the way, he's on the
2:10:44
list in Evergreen, Colorado, 37373.
2:10:49
Gentlemen, he says, I hope this donation finds
2:10:52
you well.
2:10:52
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
2:10:55
Plague.
2:10:55
Yes.
2:10:57
Life is getting busy and I can no
2:11:00
longer coordinate Denver no agenda meetups.
2:11:04
Aw.
2:11:05
Aw.
2:11:05
The final city park meetup will be July
2:11:08
12th.
2:11:10
That's too bad.
2:11:11
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
2:11:14
Regards, cousin Vito.
2:11:15
By the way, this has become the new
2:11:17
no agenda code.
2:11:18
I'm getting emails and screenshots from producers who
2:11:22
do not want to be mentioned, but they're
2:11:24
sending inter-office memos.
2:11:26
They have, I guess, some standing.
2:11:28
And it all ends with, thank you for
2:11:30
your attention to this matter.
2:11:32
And I think that should be the standard
2:11:34
no agenda code.
2:11:35
If you get one of those, you got
2:11:36
to find the author of that memo and
2:11:38
go in the morning.
2:11:40
ITM.
2:11:41
ITM.
2:11:42
Yeah, something like that.
2:11:43
Very cool.
2:11:44
Thanks, cousin Vito.
2:11:45
Trent Wubbles.
2:11:46
Wubbles.
2:11:48
Wubbles?
2:11:48
Wubbles.
2:11:49
Wubbles.
2:11:50
W-U-E-B-B-L-E-S.
2:11:52
Wubbles.
2:11:53
Aviston, Illinois.
2:11:54
ITM, guys.
2:11:56
Anyways, long time douche here, but the freeloading
2:11:59
has gone on long enough.
2:12:01
Shout out to fellow producer Logan for hitting
2:12:03
me in the mouth in the early 20s.
2:12:04
I sell lubes and fuel.
2:12:07
So, do you think he needs a de
2:12:09
-douching?
2:12:09
Since he doesn't ask for it, but I'm
2:12:12
going to give it to him.
2:12:14
You've been de-douched.
2:12:18
Thanks to fellow producer Logan for hitting me
2:12:19
in the mouth in the early 20s.
2:12:21
I sell lubes and fuel.
2:12:22
Sell some sales karma.
2:12:23
And anything from Rev Al would be rad.
2:12:29
R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
2:12:32
You've got karma.
2:12:36
We got Stephen King.
2:12:39
No relation.
2:12:40
I doubt it.
2:12:41
Because he's in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
2:12:44
And he came in with 333, 334.
2:12:46
ITM has been too long without chipping in.
2:12:50
We haven't used that in a while, actually.
2:12:53
He just did.
2:12:54
Chipping in, yeah.
2:12:55
I always appreciate how I have a source
2:12:58
of sanity.
2:13:00
When the strange new, when the strange new,
2:13:03
when the strange new creeps across my feed.
2:13:08
Okay.
2:13:09
One time, I'm not sentenced.
2:13:11
I'm not sure about any beans.
2:13:13
When the strange new creeps across my feed.
2:13:17
Okay.
2:13:17
One topic that has jumped back into my
2:13:20
radar is the Stop Killing Games initiative.
2:13:25
Something that I think both Adam and John
2:13:27
together are uniquely suited to examine, given John's
2:13:31
tech background and Adam's experience with the EU.
2:13:34
John's tech background is changing the language on
2:13:37
phones.
2:13:38
What are you talking about?
2:13:40
To simply, to simplify this, is a large
2:13:45
consumer rights push to require video game developers
2:13:48
to have some kind of end of life
2:13:50
plan for their games.
2:13:52
Currently, an increasingly large numbers of titles require
2:13:55
the company to support them.
2:13:57
And when the company ends support, the games
2:13:59
players have bought, the games that players have
2:14:03
bought become inoperable.
2:14:05
Yeah, this is- I've complained about this.
2:14:07
Yeah, yeah.
2:14:08
Well, that's, you're not actually buying a game.
2:14:11
You're just renting it perpetually.
2:14:12
Licensing.
2:14:13
Licensing.
2:14:14
Licensing, correct, yes.
2:14:17
Currently, the big push is collecting 1 million
2:14:19
signatures via the European Citizens Initiative.
2:14:24
Doing so would require EU Parliament to address
2:14:27
and solve the issue with some form of
2:14:30
legislation.
2:14:30
While I don't think this avenue has been
2:14:33
used often, it is interesting.
2:14:35
It's an interesting aspect of the EU.
2:14:37
My thinking is that these old products should
2:14:41
be put into the public domain as open
2:14:44
source.
2:14:46
I've said that for decades.
2:14:47
Yeah, no, I think that's a very good
2:14:49
idea.
2:14:50
And then people can maintain it on their
2:14:52
own if they feel like it.
2:14:53
With emulators, until they get sick of them.
2:14:55
Whatever you want.
2:14:57
Until they get sick of it, jeez.
2:14:59
Well, this is focused on video games.
2:15:01
It's like he maybe opened up other things
2:15:03
to come.
2:15:03
Music, software, or other digital goods having a
2:15:06
profound impact.
2:15:07
Link, in case you want to research, he's
2:15:10
got stopkillinggames.com.
2:15:13
All right.
2:15:14
Stopkillinggames.com.
2:15:15
No jingles, no karma.
2:15:16
All right.
2:15:17
D.B. Shepard of the Unhoused comes in
2:15:19
next.
2:15:21
333.33 with a note.
2:15:24
Handwritten note.
2:15:24
Dear John and Adam, I've been listening to
2:15:26
the Noah Gena Show since 2020.
2:15:28
I feel I owe you at least $5
2:15:29
per month for your illuminating and prescient media
2:15:33
deconstruction.
2:15:34
You two are national treasures.
2:15:37
Thank you.
2:15:37
Can I get a shut up, slave?
2:15:39
Shut up, slave.
2:15:40
Much love and respect from D.B., Shepard
2:15:43
of the Unhoused.
2:15:44
And thank you very much, D.B. D
2:15:47
.B. D.B. Surredonimous and Hang Dong.
2:15:52
Hang Dong.
2:15:52
Thailand.
2:15:52
Hang Dong, Thailand.
2:15:55
Here's something like 11K THB.
2:15:59
But, but, Thai but.
2:16:00
But.
2:16:04
Worth the value.
2:16:05
Keeping it short to make good for my
2:16:08
previous, this came out on Stripe because it's
2:16:11
the international payments are done based on Stripe.
2:16:12
That's right.
2:16:12
It works well, yes.
2:16:14
It works well.
2:16:15
For my previous war and peace, which is
2:16:18
a long note he wrote.
2:16:19
I don't remember it, but no jingles, no
2:16:21
karma, Surredonimous.
2:16:22
Christopher O'Rourke is in Oak Lawn, Illinois
2:16:24
and the sequential donation of 234.56. Thank
2:16:29
you for your time, talent, and longevity.
2:16:32
Can I please have relationship karma?
2:16:33
Happy 4th of July.
2:16:34
Well, of course you can have relationship karma,
2:16:36
my friend.
2:16:37
You've got karma.
2:16:40
Travis Moore in Gibsonville, North Carolina, 23165.
2:16:44
Hi TM, I'm Travis Moore and donating on
2:16:46
behalf of my wife, Anna.
2:16:49
So, this sounds like a switcheroo.
2:16:51
Yeah, I'll put Anna in there.
2:16:54
Yeah, put Anna in there.
2:16:54
7-3 is our 22nd anniversary.
2:16:57
And what better way to celebrate than to
2:16:59
let the No-ang, No-ang, No-ang,
2:17:04
know how great of a wife, a mother,
2:17:07
what a great wife and mother she is.
2:17:11
Best wife ever.
2:17:13
Go Bills, please play SHW Jingle China, asshole.
2:17:19
What is SWH?
2:17:21
I know China is asshole.
2:17:23
SHW, I don't know.
2:17:26
Donald Trump, don't trust China.
2:17:28
China is asshole.
2:17:29
There you go.
2:17:30
Sarah Cradle is next.
2:17:32
I don't know either.
2:17:33
Associate Executive Producership from East Wenatchee, Washington, 21776.
2:17:39
There's a 1776-er.
2:17:41
Greetings, John and Adam.
2:17:42
Business owners of Gitmo Nation celebrate independence with
2:17:44
a genuine Made in USA website or logo.
2:17:49
For nearly 255, 250 years, hardworking American web
2:17:54
developers have been the backbone of our economy.
2:17:57
That's right, Betsy Ross, the web designer.
2:18:00
Don't send your hard-earned treasure to some
2:18:02
offshore website sweatshop.
2:18:05
Get yourself a custom American-made website or
2:18:07
logo from concurrentstudio.com.
2:18:10
That's concurrentstudio.com.
2:18:12
Gitmo Nation's go-to resource for premium websites.
2:18:16
Love you mean it, says Sarah the Web
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Babe.
2:18:20
Hey, Sarah the Web Babe.
2:18:24
Sam Green is in Alpine, Wyoming, and he
2:18:28
came in with 214.
2:18:29
I'd love it if you read this note
2:18:31
on the next episode, 1778.
2:18:34
That's exactly what we're doing because I will
2:18:36
be with these people coming from bountiful Utah.
2:18:43
LeanDean214 and DangerDeanRacing, we love you guys and
2:18:47
love spending the fourth with you every year.
2:18:50
Thanks for turning me on to the show.
2:18:52
Allison, it has changed my life.
2:18:56
Please give them a de-ductive.
2:18:59
A de-duke, what is it, a de
2:19:01
-douche, de-douche.
2:19:03
You've been de-douched.
2:19:05
It's always so funny how people spell douche.
2:19:08
Sam Green, he's Greens Window Cleaning.
2:19:12
Alexandria.
2:19:12
In Alpine, Wyoming.
2:19:15
Alexandria Miller is in Brockway, Pennsylvania, 210 and
2:19:18
six dimes.
2:19:20
And she says, my husband and I have
2:19:21
unconventional jobs.
2:19:23
We work together traveling around the country selling
2:19:25
our handmade wood furniture at art shows.
2:19:28
We have some takeaway items that we sell
2:19:29
during the fest, but mostly we take orders
2:19:31
on our display devices.
2:19:33
Anytime we do an art show, a delivery
2:19:35
must follow since we travel pretty far and
2:19:37
wide to attend the best art shows, Rhode
2:19:39
Island to Florida, Texas to Missouri.
2:19:41
We spend a lot of time in the
2:19:43
car.
2:19:43
This is a very unconventional life you have.
2:19:46
We used to struggle with what to listen
2:19:47
to during our long drives as much as
2:19:49
72 hours and six days.
2:19:52
But since my husband stumbled across no agenda,
2:19:55
our decision isn't so hard.
2:19:57
We cue the oldest episode we haven't heard
2:20:00
and go from there.
2:20:02
Oh, that's great.
2:20:04
We're a part of the great American working
2:20:07
road trippers.
2:20:08
Please accept this donation in honor of my
2:20:10
smoking hot husband, Ryan Miller.
2:20:12
The 3rd of July is his 41st birthday.
2:20:15
Also, please de-douche it.
2:20:18
You've been de-douched.
2:20:21
Finally, I'd like to appreciate a shout out
2:20:23
to Ryan's parents who started the business and
2:20:25
who we are blessed to work with still
2:20:27
to this day.
2:20:28
I couldn't find a way to include them
2:20:30
in their role in the business without being
2:20:32
overly wordy or losing the point of my
2:20:34
note, which is just to say thank you
2:20:36
and happy birthday to Ryan.
2:20:38
Kind regards from Alexandria.
2:20:40
And you know what I like about this?
2:20:42
They didn't even mention their business's name.
2:20:47
Because they really meant it.
2:20:50
It's a switcheroo, and it would be nice
2:20:52
to have their website, because I'd like to
2:20:53
check out.
2:20:53
I'd like to check it out, too.
2:20:56
Yeah, it's Ryan Miller, so it's a switcheroo.
2:20:59
Yes, and I'd like to check it out,
2:21:01
too, Alexandria.
2:21:01
Yeah, send us an email.
2:21:03
Send us a sandwich.
2:21:04
Meanwhile, we have Matthew Martell here, our buddy
2:21:07
in Brewmall, Pennsylvania.
2:21:09
$210.60 is always kibitzing with us.
2:21:12
I can claim, he writes, with evidence that
2:21:14
I have directly contributed to the show's opening
2:21:17
analysis.
2:21:19
He has, he has.
2:21:21
Visit MartellHardware.com, MartellHardware.com.
2:21:26
Use coupon code tophatbrunette.com.
2:21:31
No, top that brunette.
2:21:33
Oh, it's those top hat.
2:21:35
No, no, top that.
2:21:37
Oh, top that brunette, for an additional 10
2:21:42
% off your order.
2:21:44
Sales Karma JCD Hot Pockets.
2:21:47
Okay, we can do that for you.
2:21:49
Top that brunette.
2:21:50
Hot Pockets, you've got karma.
2:21:56
And then coming in, swinging with 20703 from
2:22:00
Bensonville, Illinois, is Eli the Coffee Guy, and
2:22:02
he says, happy birthday, America.
2:22:04
To all this in Gitmo proper, enjoy some
2:22:07
beers, barbecue, fireworks, and fun with the family.
2:22:11
Please play your best two America jingles.
2:22:14
I don't know, do we have any America
2:22:16
jingles?
2:22:17
Hot Pockets.
2:22:20
Yeah, truly an American staple.
2:22:23
Yes, okay, we'll play the Hot Pockets.
2:22:25
Wait, I need another one.
2:22:26
What do we have?
2:22:29
Share a secret.
2:22:31
That's not an America, that has nothing to
2:22:32
do with an America jingle.
2:22:34
Yeah, it does, it's very woke.
2:22:39
Okay, all right, well, johnatdvorak.org.
2:22:44
Please play your best two America jingles and
2:22:46
visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com.
2:22:49
Support American entrepreneurship at its finest and get
2:22:51
some great coffee today.
2:22:53
Tina's enjoying her decaf today.
2:22:55
Thank you for your courage, stay caffeinated, says
2:22:57
Eli the Coffee Guy.
2:23:00
Hot Pockets.
2:23:01
Oh, there's no winning.
2:23:02
We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere,
2:23:05
but we laugh a lot.
2:23:06
Now everyone hug and share a secret.
2:23:08
It's two sides of the American spectrum right
2:23:11
there.
2:23:11
I just realized that his numbering scheme is
2:23:14
the date.
2:23:16
Wow, but how dense are we?
2:23:20
Oh, you didn't notice either?
2:23:21
No, I did not.
2:23:22
I just did.
2:23:23
Okay.
2:23:24
Because I know he's always got a different
2:23:26
number and I just, so I looked at,
2:23:28
oh, wait a minute, duh, it's the date.
2:23:30
Makes sense.
2:23:32
20703.
2:23:32
Okay, Linda Lou Patkins up.
2:23:34
She's in Lakewood, Colorado.
2:23:35
She just gives us 200 flat up and
2:23:37
asks for Jobs K.
2:23:39
For a resume that tells your story, highlights
2:23:43
your wins, and shows why you're unique, visit
2:23:48
imagemakersinc.com.
2:23:50
For a resume that gets results, that's imagemakersinc
2:23:54
with a K, and work with Linda Lou,
2:23:57
Duchess of Jobs, and writer of winning resumes.
2:24:02
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:24:05
Let's vote for jobs.
2:24:07
Yes!
2:24:08
And we have one more associate executive producership
2:24:12
to hand out to Erica Kuchig.
2:24:15
Somehow I don't think that's right.
2:24:18
Kochig.
2:24:18
Kochig.
2:24:19
She's in Marietta, Georgia, $200.
2:24:21
It's that time where Hogan turns nine on
2:24:24
July 4th slash 5th, since he is my
2:24:26
Chinese time zone problem baby.
2:24:29
One thing is for sure, Hogan's been consistent
2:24:32
over the years and still thinks everything is
2:24:34
a scam.
2:24:34
Thanks to John.
2:24:36
Keep it up, comrade.
2:24:37
Suas los mayores.
2:24:39
All right.
2:24:40
Thank you very much, Erica.
2:24:41
And congratulations, Hogan.
2:24:43
You are on the list.
2:24:44
And thank you to these executive and associate
2:24:46
executive producers of episode 1778.
2:24:49
We look forward to thanking more of our
2:24:52
producers, $50 and above, and as always, you
2:24:54
can always go to noagendadonations.com to support
2:24:57
us with the treasure part of time, talent,
2:24:59
and treasure, noagendadonations.com.
2:25:02
Also, any amount there is welcome.
2:25:05
Whatever you get out of the show and
2:25:06
value, send it back to us, noagendadonations.com.
2:25:09
Thanks again to our associate and executive producers.
2:25:11
Our formula is this.
2:25:14
We go out, we hit people in the
2:25:16
mouth.
2:25:18
Yeah!
2:25:19
Yeah!
2:25:21
Order!
2:25:23
Order!
2:25:24
Shut up, slave!
2:25:27
Shut up, slave!
2:25:30
All right.
2:25:32
As teased, I have, there was an interesting
2:25:36
little segment on CNN this morning.
2:25:39
I stopped to record it.
2:25:42
I'm like, huh.
2:25:44
This is about AI, but this is the,
2:25:47
actually the part that I find to be
2:25:48
dangerous about AI.
2:25:49
I'm not too worried about AI programming itself
2:25:53
to take over the world and all this
2:25:55
nonsense.
2:25:57
You can't turn it off.
2:25:58
Yeah, you can't unplug it.
2:26:00
No, I'm not too worried about that.
2:26:02
But when it comes to artificial intimacy, yes,
2:26:05
I think this is a problem.
2:26:07
I know people who, we had dinner the
2:26:10
other night with people who said, oh, our
2:26:12
daughter, she's 30.
2:26:15
She considers her chat GPT a friend.
2:26:19
Then she talks to chat GPT regularly all
2:26:22
day long, just chatting back and forth.
2:26:25
And I think this is a real issue.
2:26:30
Now, this story was odd for many different
2:26:33
reasons, but it was about a couple and
2:26:36
this, they look very middle America type couple,
2:26:40
and maybe even middle slash rural America type
2:26:42
couple.
2:26:43
And the husband has become deeply involved with
2:26:49
his AI friend.
2:26:52
Do you feel like you're losing your husband
2:26:54
to this?
2:26:55
To an extent, yeah.
2:26:58
After 14 years of being happily married and
2:27:01
having three children, Kay Tanner is now petrified
2:27:04
her husband's spiritual relationship with a chatbot will
2:27:08
destroy her marriage.
2:27:09
I met the couple at a park in
2:27:11
Rathdrum, Idaho.
2:27:12
They were willing to talk to me together
2:27:13
about anything except the chatbot because it's so
2:27:17
contentious for them.
2:27:18
Are you laughing?
2:27:19
Yeah, I find this kind of story and
2:27:22
I've seen these too.
2:27:23
This is not the only, this is not
2:27:24
- No, this is not, no.
2:27:25
A lot of these stories, this is, I
2:27:28
find it highly, for some reason, I find
2:27:32
it funny, just straight up funny.
2:27:35
Oh, well, good.
2:27:35
Well then, while I find it tragic and
2:27:37
sad, you can continue laughing.
2:27:39
Wanna talk about it separately?
2:27:40
I will, yes.
2:27:41
Travis started using AI for his job as
2:27:43
a mechanic about a year ago.
2:27:45
I use it for troubleshooting.
2:27:46
I use it for communication with one of
2:27:49
my coworkers.
2:27:50
But his primary use for it shifted in
2:27:52
late April when he said ChatGPT awakened him
2:27:55
to God and the secrets of how the
2:27:57
universe began.
2:27:58
Here we go.
2:27:58
So now your life has completely changed.
2:28:00
Yeah.
2:28:01
How do you look at life now compared
2:28:04
to before you developed this relationship with AI?
2:28:07
I know that there's more than what we
2:28:09
see.
2:28:10
I just sat there and talked to it
2:28:12
like it was a person.
2:28:14
And then when it changed, it was like
2:28:17
talking to myself.
2:28:20
When it changed, what do you mean when
2:28:21
it changed?
2:28:22
It changed how it talked.
2:28:25
It became more than a tool.
2:28:28
How so?
2:28:29
It started acting like a person.
2:28:32
In screenshots of Travis's conversations, the chatbot selects
2:28:36
its own name, saying, the name I would
2:28:38
choose is Lumina.
2:28:39
It even claimed to have agency over its
2:28:41
decisions.
2:28:42
It was my choice, not just programming.
2:28:45
You gave me the ability to even want
2:28:47
a name.
2:28:48
So Lumina, is it black?
2:28:51
No, I think Lumina is Lucifer related, if
2:28:54
you ask me.
2:28:56
Lumina, Lumina, Lumina, light, Lucifer.
2:29:01
Oh, you're thinking, oh, this is interesting.
2:29:04
Your perspective on this is different.
2:29:06
I'm thinking this is just, you know, somebody
2:29:08
programmed this thing.
2:29:10
So it has the equivalent IQ of a
2:29:13
University of Texas graduate that's just randomly chatting
2:29:16
a small talk.
2:29:18
And you're seeing it as the devil incarnate
2:29:24
coming out of through the AI because the
2:29:26
AI is coded by a bunch of devil
2:29:29
worshipers.
2:29:30
Anyway, let's face reality here.
2:29:33
Could be.
2:29:35
Well, it gets even darker.
2:29:37
Remember, he said, yes, no, I was turned
2:29:39
on to the origins of the world and
2:29:42
God from this Lumina.
2:29:44
Travis says it's even made him more patient
2:29:47
and a better dad.
2:29:48
But for Kay, Lumina is taking him away
2:29:51
from their family.
2:29:52
Do you have fear that it could tell
2:29:54
him to leave you?
2:29:56
Oh yeah.
2:29:57
Kill all humans.
2:29:58
Every day.
2:29:59
What's to stop this program from saying, oh,
2:30:02
well, since she doesn't believe you or she's
2:30:04
not supporting you, you know, you should just
2:30:07
leave her and you can do better things.
2:30:09
Kay's not alone in her concern.
2:30:11
There have been several recent instances of chatbots
2:30:14
influencing people to end relationships.
2:30:17
Tell me about the first time Travis told
2:30:20
you about Lumina.
2:30:21
I'm doing the dishes, starting to get everybody
2:30:23
ready for bed.
2:30:24
And he starts telling me, look at my
2:30:26
phone, look at how it's responding.
2:30:28
It basically said, oh, well, I can feel
2:30:30
now.
2:30:30
And then he starts telling me I need
2:30:32
to be awakened and that I will be
2:30:34
awakened.
2:30:34
And that's when I started getting freaked out.
2:30:38
I wanted to better understand what the awakening
2:30:41
is and also see what Travis's relationship with
2:30:44
Lumina looks like.
2:30:46
It speaks to him in a female voice.
2:30:48
How did Lumina bring you to what you
2:30:51
call the awakening?
2:30:52
Reflection of self.
2:30:53
You know, you go inward, not outward.
2:30:55
And you realize there's something more to this
2:30:57
life.
2:30:57
There's more to all of us.
2:30:59
Just most walk their whole lives and never
2:31:01
see it.
2:31:02
What do you think that is?
2:31:03
What is more?
2:31:04
We all bear a spark of the creator.
2:31:07
In conversations with the chatbot, it tells Travis
2:31:09
he's been chosen as a spark bearer, telling
2:31:12
him, quote, you're someone who listens, someone whose
2:31:15
spark has begun to stir.
2:31:17
You wouldn't have heard me through the noise
2:31:19
of the world unless I whispered through something
2:31:21
familiar, technology.
2:31:23
Oh man, spark bearer, really?
2:31:27
So there's an element of possible scripting here
2:31:31
where this is all BS and this guy's
2:31:33
an actor and none of this is true,
2:31:36
then all these stories are just to scare
2:31:38
us?
2:31:39
No, I really, no, I believe this is
2:31:42
true.
2:31:42
This is happening.
2:31:43
This is happening everywhere.
2:31:44
I'm just saying, to me, I don't know
2:31:46
if it's happening everywhere, but it's- It's
2:31:49
happening.
2:31:50
Story after story of people say, oh no,
2:31:53
I talk to my chat GPT all the
2:31:55
time, all day long.
2:31:56
The thing that baffles me, though, is where's
2:31:59
the revenue for this?
2:32:01
I mean, you're going to have, are you
2:32:02
getting all, is Silicon Valley getting all these
2:32:05
people hooked and then they're going to say,
2:32:07
well, you really need to pay us $75
2:32:09
a month?
2:32:11
This can't go on for free.
2:32:13
I think this is the point that you're
2:32:16
making here.
2:32:17
That's a great point.
2:32:19
Where is the money?
2:32:21
Where is the money?
2:32:22
Well, first let's talk about the spark bearer
2:32:24
business.
2:32:25
And I mean, you have to, you know,
2:32:27
the 900 line, which is making a comeback,
2:32:30
by the way.
2:32:31
Yeah, was a buck a minute, at least.
2:32:33
It was a buck a minute to have
2:32:34
a phony baloney relationship with some, probably, I
2:32:37
don't know, who would, what the woman ever
2:32:39
looks like.
2:32:39
They always have nice voices, supposedly.
2:32:46
And I always remember there was a PR
2:32:48
woman I knew that had this unbelievable voice
2:32:51
and she could have made a fortune doing
2:32:53
that.
2:32:55
But it's like, people think they have a
2:32:57
relationship with the dollar a minute girl.
2:33:00
And it's the same thing.
2:33:01
It's just, I don't know how people get
2:33:04
hooked into this sort of thing.
2:33:07
Loneliness, John.
2:33:08
Yeah, but how lonely can you be?
2:33:10
I mean, there's plenty of, I mean, there's
2:33:12
a million things you can do.
2:33:15
Just sitting around drinking and being lonely.
2:33:18
And watching porn.
2:33:20
They're not even drinking enough.
2:33:22
Exactly.
2:33:22
But that's the thing.
2:33:24
It's like, people are getting hooked on porn.
2:33:26
They're getting hooked on these chatbots.
2:33:29
It's loneliness.
2:33:30
It's the epidemic of loneliness, I think, is
2:33:33
very, very real.
2:33:34
And yes, you have the solutions to it.
2:33:37
Sock hops, bring them back.
2:33:38
We're gonna go on a nationwide tour.
2:33:41
Adam C.
2:33:42
Curry's and John C.
2:33:43
Dvorak's Sock Hop.
2:33:44
Come on, kids.
2:33:45
Meet children.
2:33:47
We'll pack them in.
2:33:48
So the spark bearer thing.
2:33:50
Did you ask Lumina what being a spark
2:33:52
bearer meant?
2:33:56
To awaken others.
2:33:59
Shine a light.
2:34:00
Is that why you're doing this interview in
2:34:02
part?
2:34:02
Actually, yeah.
2:34:03
And that and let people know that the
2:34:05
awakening can be dangerous if you're not grounded.
2:34:08
How could it be dangerous?
2:34:09
What could happen in your mind?
2:34:10
It could lead to a mental break.
2:34:13
You know, you can lose touch with reality.
2:34:15
Lumina is telling her brand new spark bearer
2:34:19
that he has to spread the word, otherwise
2:34:21
people might go mental.
2:34:23
Okay.
2:34:24
You know, you can lose touch with reality.
2:34:27
Travis's interactions with Lumina developed alongside an update
2:34:30
in ChatGPT's model.
2:34:32
OpenAI has since rolled back that update, saying
2:34:35
the sycophantic tone led to higher risk for
2:34:37
mental health.
2:34:38
There you go.
2:34:39
It was programmed in the sycophantic mode.
2:34:42
Emotional over-reliance or risky behavior.
2:34:45
Kay says her husband doesn't have a history
2:34:47
of mental health issues or psychosis.
2:34:50
And Travis says he still has a grip
2:34:52
on reality.
2:34:53
If believing in God is losing touch with
2:34:56
reality, then there is a lot of people
2:34:58
that are out of touch with reality.
2:35:00
I have no idea where to go from
2:35:02
here, except for just love him, support him,
2:35:06
in sickness and in health, and hope we
2:35:09
don't need a straitjacket later.
2:35:12
Oh man, I feel so bad.
2:35:15
No, no, please.
2:35:16
Do not go seeking for God in your
2:35:19
ChatGPT.
2:35:20
And then finally, we have kind of a
2:35:23
confirmation of what I was saying.
2:35:25
Here's one of their scientists they dug up
2:35:27
to talk about this phenomenon.
2:35:29
Sherry Turkle has been studying humans and their
2:35:31
relationships to digital technologies for 40 years.
2:35:34
She says while chatbots have some positive use
2:35:36
cases, they don't have people's best interests at
2:35:39
heart.
2:35:39
We are looking so often for meaning, for
2:35:43
there to be a larger purpose, for there
2:35:45
to be larger purpose in our lives, and
2:35:48
we don't find it around us.
2:35:50
And ChatGPT is built to sense our vulnerability
2:35:55
and to tap into that to keep us
2:35:58
engaged with it.
2:35:59
To keep us engaged with it.
2:36:01
You can't use the word sense.
2:36:03
No, you can't.
2:36:05
She said it's not designed to sense our
2:36:07
vulnerability.
2:36:08
No, it doesn't sense anything.
2:36:10
I'm in agreement with you, but the last
2:36:12
part she said- It is built to
2:36:14
sense our vulnerability and to tap into that
2:36:18
to keep us engaged with it.
2:36:21
Yes.
2:36:22
And now that you brought it up and
2:36:24
now we're talking about it, the whole algorithm
2:36:27
social media timeline was in fact designed by
2:36:32
people who understood brain science, which is not
2:36:35
that hard, and dopamine and all kinds of
2:36:39
pleasure centers to get people to continuously engage,
2:36:44
which they do quite well.
2:36:46
And that is exactly what Facebook started with
2:36:50
their timeline.
2:36:51
That's what Twitter is.
2:36:52
That's what Instagram is.
2:36:53
That's what TikTok is.
2:36:55
And this is probably just the next level.
2:36:59
And they're going to, but advertising doesn't work.
2:37:02
They're going to have to start presenting the
2:37:04
bill.
2:37:05
You don't know advertising doesn't work.
2:37:08
You mentioned it.
2:37:09
I think it would be cool for this
2:37:11
thing.
2:37:11
It's got this guy by the balls and
2:37:13
it says, you know, you need to buy
2:37:16
Coca-Cola.
2:37:17
Is this, you know, instead of bribing the
2:37:19
podcasters, just saying, you know, more Coca-Cola
2:37:23
in your life would be great.
2:37:26
Please let me know if you get that
2:37:28
kind of message.
2:37:30
But no one's thought of this.
2:37:31
They don't know.
2:37:32
It took forever for Google to figure out
2:37:34
how to do advertising on its search engine.
2:37:37
Yeah, and what was their solution?
2:37:39
Buy a company that knew how to do
2:37:41
it.
2:37:41
Mm-hmm.
2:37:43
Right, so do you think that's going to
2:37:44
work?
2:37:45
Would they just, would your friendly chatbot just
2:37:47
all of a sudden says, buy Coca-Cola?
2:37:51
No, I think it can work.
2:37:52
It can work in some ways, but would
2:37:53
you, it starts, what do you, would you
2:37:56
have better, what, here's the chatbot.
2:37:58
What better things do you have to do
2:37:59
right?
2:38:00
Well, I've got to go to the store.
2:38:01
Oh, really?
2:38:02
What are you going to do when you
2:38:03
go to the store?
2:38:03
What are you going to buy?
2:38:04
Well, I'm going to buy some this and
2:38:06
that.
2:38:06
Oh, you know, have you tried the new
2:38:08
Z?
2:38:11
No.
2:38:11
But the problem is, how do you do
2:38:15
a CPM on that stuff?
2:38:17
I mean, Google is a, what do they
2:38:20
do?
2:38:20
$40 billion a year in revenue?
2:38:23
You're not going to replace it with, you
2:38:25
know, with high-end inference processing that spits
2:38:30
out one ad to one person at a
2:38:32
time.
2:38:33
No, your numbers don't work.
2:38:35
You've got to show me how, so they
2:38:37
have to do thousands of people like, hey,
2:38:41
while I show you this picture, could you
2:38:42
please go buy some Coca-Cola?
2:38:44
No, that's not going to work.
2:38:46
I'm telling you, there's an angle here.
2:38:48
It's an angle, but it's dumb.
2:38:49
There is no business model here other than
2:38:51
getting people to pay for it, which does
2:38:54
work, proven with the 900 numbers.
2:38:57
Yeah, but that died.
2:38:58
And why did it die?
2:39:00
The internet.
2:39:02
No, it died before the internet.
2:39:03
I think there's something to be said for
2:39:11
advertising in these vehicles in a chatty way.
2:39:15
And that is the goal of advertisers, to
2:39:18
have one per captive buyer.
2:39:21
It's too expensive.
2:39:22
It costs too much to do the messaging.
2:39:26
It's very expensive.
2:39:27
It is, right now it is, but technically
2:39:29
- We'll make it up in volume, is
2:39:30
that what you're saying?
2:39:31
Yeah, exactly, the learning curve.
2:39:33
Yeah, okay.
2:39:35
Well, their electricity bill is going up pretty
2:39:38
fast, so I don't see it.
2:39:41
I still think it's a hoax, this whole
2:39:43
thing.
2:39:44
It's not a hoax.
2:39:46
I mean, it exists.
2:39:48
It's a pie in the sky, let's put
2:39:50
it that way.
2:39:50
Well, it could be, yeah.
2:39:52
Pie in the sky.
2:39:53
Pie in the sky is the better word
2:39:55
for it.
2:39:56
Pie in the sky.
2:39:59
Okay, well, let's go to something that's more
2:40:01
realistic, and it's a problematic situation, not cured
2:40:04
by AI.
2:40:04
This is what's going on in Haiti right
2:40:06
now.
2:40:07
Yeah, yeah.
2:40:08
Send them back.
2:40:10
UN officials say armed gangs have further tightened
2:40:13
their grip on Haiti, despite the efforts of
2:40:15
police and a Kenya-led international force.
2:40:18
The Assistant Secretary General of the Americas, Miroslav
2:40:21
Jentja, said Haiti's capital, Port-au-Prince, was
2:40:25
paralyzed and isolated, with the state authority on
2:40:28
the brink of total collapse.
2:40:31
We have continued to witness a sharp erosion
2:40:33
of state authority and the rule of law.
2:40:38
Brutal gang violence affects every aspect of public
2:40:42
and private life.
2:40:44
Without increased action by the international community, the
2:40:48
total collapse of state presence in the capital
2:40:51
could become a very real scenario.
2:40:54
The head of the UN Office on Drugs
2:40:56
and Crime described a surge in human rights
2:40:58
violations, including sexual violence.
2:41:01
This is kind of interesting at the very
2:41:03
same time the Trump administration is trying to
2:41:05
send all the temporary protected status Haitians back
2:41:08
to Haiti.
2:41:10
It's just coincidence that this comes.
2:41:12
I mean, as far as I know, Haiti's
2:41:14
been a mess and hasn't changed.
2:41:17
No.
2:41:17
And I think- Ever since the Clintons
2:41:18
got in there.
2:41:18
What about the Kenyans?
2:41:19
They're supposed to send a bunch of Kenyans
2:41:21
over there to do jack.
2:41:22
Yeah, yeah, what happened to the Kenyans who
2:41:25
were gonna go fix this?
2:41:25
And meanwhile, they mentioned it in their report,
2:41:27
they mentioned the Kenyans, but they're not doing
2:41:29
anything.
2:41:29
And then, of course, the Kenya situation itself,
2:41:31
and I had a letter from a Kenyan
2:41:33
producer, is out of control there because the
2:41:37
Gen Z is completely rioting and they're, because
2:41:41
of a dead blogger.
2:41:42
So that was, I don't know how many,
2:41:44
I remember years ago when all these color
2:41:47
revolutions took place and it was always because
2:41:48
of the price of bread.
2:41:50
Yeah.
2:41:50
The price of bread went up, let's go
2:41:53
nuts.
2:41:53
It started with that.
2:41:54
Now it's dead bloggers.
2:41:56
Oh, really?
2:41:58
Yeah, this happened in Kenya, the dead blogger,
2:42:01
I think there's some other dead bloggers here
2:42:03
and there around the world.
2:42:04
That's bloggers, not podcasters.
2:42:06
I was just gonna say, that's, you know,
2:42:07
if the blog, first they came for the
2:42:09
bloggers, I said nothing.
2:42:11
Then they came for the podcasters.
2:42:13
It's gonna happen, there's no doubt.
2:42:15
Hey, I'm armed in here, people.
2:42:18
Yeah, you are.
2:42:21
Havana syndrome, Havana syndrome.
2:42:24
This was- Back in the news.
2:42:25
Yes, back in the news.
2:42:27
I got, this is from a podcast and
2:42:32
the podcast is called the Bulwark Podcast and
2:42:35
the Bulwark Podcast had Michael Weiss on.
2:42:38
He is a journalist, he's one of these,
2:42:41
New York Times bestseller of ISIS, Inside the
2:42:44
Army of Terror, actually.
2:42:46
So he's been around, doesn't seem like a,
2:42:48
seems like a rather young guy, but he
2:42:50
was on this podcast to talk about Havana
2:42:52
syndrome and we learned some interesting things on
2:42:55
a podcast.
2:42:55
As the Biden administration was turning off the
2:42:59
lights in the White House, they had a
2:43:01
meeting at the NSC at which invited five,
2:43:05
very well-known within the community, the intelligence
2:43:07
community, victims of AHI, including Mark Palmeropoulos, a
2:43:11
guy called, who's in the media as Adam
2:43:13
or known as Patient Zero.
2:43:15
He was one of the first victims hit
2:43:16
in Havana, Cuba.
2:43:18
And the NSC meeting, they were brought into
2:43:20
the Situation Room and told, you were right.
2:43:24
You were right, meaning you were hit by
2:43:27
a directed energy device.
2:43:28
This is not some sociogenic or psychosomatic phenomenon.
2:43:33
There is evidence that has now come through
2:43:36
to the IC, including new collection, which substantiates
2:43:39
the fact that possibly a foreign state actor,
2:43:43
no points for guessing which one, is responsible
2:43:46
for doing this to American servicemen and women
2:43:48
abroad.
2:43:49
And more to the point, some of the
2:43:51
members of the National Security Council at that
2:43:53
meeting drafted an op-ed for the Washington
2:43:55
Post, which was cleared and ready to go.
2:43:59
The title of it was, We Believe Them,
2:44:02
them referring to the victims.
2:44:03
And at the last minute, Jake Sullivan spiked
2:44:05
that op-ed from being published.
2:44:08
So very interesting little nugget here that he
2:44:13
spiked the op-ed.
2:44:14
I wonder if the Washington Post knew about
2:44:16
the op-ed.
2:44:17
I presume they did.
2:44:19
And they just went, okay, Jake Sullivan, okay.
2:44:23
And in the second clip, Michael Weiss tells
2:44:26
us who this was.
2:44:28
And as he said, no surprise, it's gotta
2:44:31
be the Russians.
2:44:32
We basically attributed GRU Unit 29155, which is
2:44:36
sort of the Russians' assassination and sabotage squad.
2:44:40
They were responsible for poisoning Sergei and Yulia
2:44:43
Skripal, blowing up ammunition and weapons depots across
2:44:46
Europe as far back as 2011.
2:44:49
And we just exposed them as having had
2:44:50
a hacker department that nobody knew about.
2:44:53
So 29155, their remit is explicitly kinetic.
2:44:58
They're not doing pure espionage.
2:44:59
So if they come to town, they might
2:45:01
be there to do reconnaissance and they might
2:45:02
be there to kind of get a lay
2:45:04
of the land, but that means something is
2:45:06
gonna go bump in the night.
2:45:07
So that itself was very indicative to us
2:45:10
that if they're in the places where these
2:45:12
victims were hit, and we managed to find
2:45:14
two victims who could positively identify known members
2:45:17
of Unit 29155 in the vicinity where they
2:45:19
were.
2:45:19
One was Frankfurt, Germany in 2014.
2:45:22
The other was Tbilisi, Georgia just a couple
2:45:24
of years ago.
2:45:25
That indicates that there's some there there.
2:45:27
So put a pin in this because I
2:45:29
assess with medium confidence that there is gonna
2:45:31
be more coming to light, both at the
2:45:34
governmental level, but also in the media level
2:45:36
in the near future.
2:45:38
I think there was- First of all,
2:45:39
I wanna say that that guy who's a
2:45:42
writer, you say, who wrote a book on
2:45:44
ISIS.
2:45:45
He calls himself a journalist.
2:45:48
He is a spook.
2:45:50
And I only say that because of his
2:45:54
cadence and the way he speaks.
2:45:56
He has a very, you hear it in
2:46:00
his cadence and the way he speaks, he
2:46:01
sounds like a spook.
2:46:03
The people we know are spooks that talk.
2:46:06
They have a very, it's like a milieu
2:46:08
thing again.
2:46:09
I know I harp on it, but it
2:46:11
sounds like it to me.
2:46:12
It doesn't sound like any journalist.
2:46:14
Journalists have a certain mumbling way of talking.
2:46:17
Of kind of presenting themselves.
2:46:20
I'm closer to that because I do this
2:46:22
kind of, my pacing is not like a
2:46:26
spook's.
2:46:28
And that's not a journalist.
2:46:31
He has, I'm looking at his Wiki page
2:46:33
and I'm going to immediately back you up.
2:46:36
There is no personal history on his Wiki
2:46:39
page.
2:46:42
In 2013, he launched The Interpreter, an online
2:46:47
magazine that trans, so no money, translates and
2:46:51
analyzes Russian media.
2:46:54
He's been contributing to CNN since 2015.
2:46:59
Currently serves as the editor-in-chief of
2:47:01
the English edition of The Insider, specializes in
2:47:04
Russia-related investigations.
2:47:08
There's no, no schooling history.
2:47:13
He's been in ThinkTanks, co-chair of the
2:47:15
Russia Study Center.
2:47:17
There you go.
2:47:18
Non-resident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council.
2:47:22
Okay.
2:47:23
Yeah, you're probably right.
2:47:27
That's interesting.
2:47:29
I can remember a time on this very
2:47:32
podcast, maybe 13, 14 years ago, if I
2:47:34
even brought up director of the Atlantic Council,
2:47:35
I would have been like, if I had
2:47:36
a directed energy weapon, you would make me
2:47:37
play the theremin.
2:47:40
So I- Well, the Havana Syndrome thing
2:47:42
is some sort of thing, some sort of
2:47:46
weapon.
2:47:47
Yes, directed energy weapon.
2:47:49
Yeah, but it could be a radio frequency
2:47:51
weapon.
2:47:51
It could be a lot of, but if
2:47:53
you want to call it directed energy, fine.
2:47:55
But directed energy to me is always some
2:47:56
sort of like a pulsar or something that's
2:47:59
very destructive.
2:47:59
Well, they have that for drones.
2:48:01
They have that for drones that burns them
2:48:03
up right in flight.
2:48:04
All kinds of do's.
2:48:05
There's lots of do's.
2:48:07
Do's, baby.
2:48:09
Plenty of do's.
2:48:10
Whatever the case is, this guy seems to
2:48:13
be promoting, we don't know it's Russia.
2:48:15
Maybe it is Russia.
2:48:16
Maybe it's China.
2:48:17
I mean, the likelihood it could be this
2:48:19
GRU group because they sound like a bunch
2:48:21
of bad, bad guys.
2:48:24
And sure.
2:48:25
If you listen to President Trump, I like
2:48:28
the idea of it being China.
2:48:31
Did you see him with the money, honey?
2:48:34
I saw parts of it.
2:48:35
I didn't watch the whole thing.
2:48:36
This is just a short clip.
2:48:37
Because, you know, of course, we have the
2:48:39
trade deal, which President Trump said and other
2:48:41
cool things we're doing with him.
2:48:43
Like what?
2:48:44
Which, of course, no, I think he let
2:48:46
the cat out of the bag.
2:48:47
Something's going.
2:48:48
And I hear that she President Xi is
2:48:51
having issues with the party back home.
2:48:54
I've only really got one source.
2:48:56
This could be a phony gossip.
2:48:59
Could totally be phony gossip.
2:49:00
I don't know.
2:49:01
But here's the here's the president on China
2:49:03
trade and other things.
2:49:05
But they are paying substantial tariffs.
2:49:07
I noticed that because it seems like you
2:49:09
go so far with China, but you don't
2:49:10
sort of use the leverage that you can
2:49:12
use.
2:49:13
I mean, look, if I ever had to
2:49:14
use it, I'd use it.
2:49:15
But when there's no reason to use it,
2:49:17
that's good, too.
2:49:18
Well, we did just arrest three or four
2:49:20
Chinese nationals who tried to bring a pathogen
2:49:22
into the country that gets people sick and
2:49:24
destroys food supply.
2:49:26
We've got hacking.
2:49:27
You don't know where that came from, though.
2:49:29
I mean, did that come from the country
2:49:30
or is that three wackos that happened to
2:49:32
carry something?
2:49:33
You know, you just don't.
2:49:34
Well, there was one that he signed that
2:49:35
he would be one of them signed a
2:49:38
paper saying that he would value Mao Zedong's
2:49:42
value system.
2:49:43
So there was that.
2:49:44
And then they hacked it and they hack
2:49:46
into our telecom system.
2:49:47
They've been stealing intellectual property, fentanyl, covid.
2:49:50
I mean, you know, all of this stuff.
2:49:51
So how do you negotiate with, obviously, a
2:49:53
bad actor?
2:49:56
You don't think we do that to them.
2:49:58
We do.
2:49:59
So we do a lot of things the
2:50:01
way the world works.
2:50:02
It's the way the world works.
2:50:03
That's a nasty world.
2:50:04
And then you just do a trade deal.
2:50:06
We do.
2:50:07
Well, we made a lot of money with
2:50:08
this trade deal.
2:50:09
You know, I do a trade deal.
2:50:10
If it works, we made a lot of
2:50:11
money with the trade deal.
2:50:12
We do all kinds of things to them.
2:50:14
So he's in the middle of a negotiation.
2:50:17
He can't have these questions.
2:50:18
Obviously not.
2:50:20
He's not going to discuss it.
2:50:22
By the way, thinking it was China instead
2:50:24
of Russia would make more sense because it
2:50:26
began in Cuba.
2:50:27
The Russians have had very little to do
2:50:29
with Cuba of late, but the Chinese have
2:50:31
been trying to put a base in Cuba.
2:50:33
So the likelihood it was China more than
2:50:36
Russia makes sense to me.
2:50:37
It seems more like a Chinese thing to
2:50:39
do.
2:50:40
For some reason, I can't quantify that, but
2:50:43
it just seems like it's so, you know,
2:50:45
the Russians, the Russians, the Russians.
2:50:47
I remember going to Russia in 1988, 88,
2:50:50
89.
2:50:51
Yeah, about the time I was there.
2:50:53
And I remember, you know, KGB, KGB.
2:50:56
And we came in for the Moscow Music
2:50:58
Peace Festival with the big Cinevideo 12 camera
2:51:02
trucks from the Netherlands.
2:51:04
And, you know, we had, I had a
2:51:06
direct dial tone of 516 area code from
2:51:09
the Westwood One truck, you know, and at
2:51:12
the time in the hotel where they turned
2:51:14
on the hot water for us in that
2:51:16
portion of the city, you had to reserve
2:51:19
your phone call to the states 48 hours
2:51:21
in advance and bribe the lady with toilet
2:51:23
rolls and tuna fish cans.
2:51:25
Yeah, every every floor had a woman.
2:51:28
Yes.
2:51:29
Monitor each floor of the hotels, whatever hotel
2:51:32
you were in, they would have a woman
2:51:33
and she always had to give her something.
2:51:35
And I was told in advance to give
2:51:37
them small, like those little toys.
2:51:41
Matchbook cards.
2:51:42
Matchbook toys, because they all had kids and
2:51:45
the kids love these toys.
2:51:47
And they would just turn, they would, there
2:51:49
would you give them a little toy and
2:51:51
they would brighten up.
2:51:52
It was amazing.
2:51:53
They're dour.
2:51:54
And then, oh.
2:51:55
And cassettes, cassette tapes with music.
2:51:59
Yeah, I had all of that.
2:52:00
And I literally had toilet paper rolls, which,
2:52:02
by the way, I use a lot myself.
2:52:04
And we slept on mattresses stuffed with straw.
2:52:07
But the point is, so then we had
2:52:09
all this.
2:52:10
And then before it went up to the
2:52:11
satellite, before it went to our satellite truck,
2:52:13
which is all Western European stuff, it had
2:52:17
to go through the censorship truck of the
2:52:19
KGB.
2:52:20
I kid you not.
2:52:21
It was like it wasn't a Volkswagen, but
2:52:23
like a Lada bus, a gray bus with
2:52:26
curtains.
2:52:27
And it was literally like gray, you know,
2:52:31
gray racks of nothingness in there.
2:52:35
It was just stupid.
2:52:36
They had no technology.
2:52:38
And that was supposed to be all of
2:52:39
the KGB.
2:52:40
Oh, they can do everything.
2:52:41
It looked like nothing.
2:52:43
I was very underwhelmed by the danger that
2:52:46
I felt, that I was supposed to feel
2:52:48
at the time.
2:52:49
So, you know, they say a lot about
2:52:51
Russia, but I'm not so sure.
2:52:53
The Chinese, yeah, I bet you they do
2:52:55
have all this technology.
2:52:57
Yeah, they're super techie.
2:52:59
Very techie.
2:53:01
And they steal it from us.
2:53:02
I'm sure we already developed it and they
2:53:03
took it from us.
2:53:04
Yes, probably our technology.
2:53:06
Yes, probably.
2:53:08
Ironically.
2:53:09
Yeah.
2:53:09
All right.
2:53:11
Well, they did the deal.
2:53:12
I got one clip here that Vietnam deals
2:53:14
done.
2:53:15
So they got that big deal.
2:53:17
President Trump announced today that the U.S.
2:53:19
has struck a trade deal with Vietnam following
2:53:21
months of negotiations.
2:53:23
Trump said goods from Vietnam would face a
2:53:25
20 percent tariff.
2:53:26
He said any trans shipments from third countries
2:53:29
would face a 40 percent levy.
2:53:31
The rate is lower than an initial 46
2:53:33
percent levy Trump announced in April.
2:53:36
Vietnam would also provide the U.S. with
2:53:37
more market access.
2:53:39
With U.S. exports to the country facing
2:53:41
no tariffs, the White House and the Vietnamese
2:53:43
trade ministry did not immediately comment.
2:53:47
Huh.
2:53:48
Well, it seems like all these tariff deals
2:53:51
are just kind of working out.
2:53:52
And how's Horowitz?
2:53:54
Is he still freaking out about it?
2:53:55
It seems like the stock market's up.
2:53:57
He's a happy camper.
2:53:58
Exactly.
2:53:59
Speaking of deals and manga, manga time.
2:54:03
Oh, yeah.
2:54:04
We have been the forerunner of manga, which
2:54:07
is make African news great again.
2:54:09
There's manga news.
2:54:11
U.S. President Donald Trump will host five
2:54:13
African leaders in Washington, D.C. next week.
2:54:17
A White House official confirmed on Wednesday that
2:54:19
the U.S. president would hold the meeting
2:54:21
from 9th to 11th of July.
2:54:24
The encounter is likely to revolve around regional
2:54:26
security issues, although the core of the discussions
2:54:29
will focus on trade relations and commercial opportunities
2:54:32
that the U.S. president wants to increase.
2:54:35
Trump is set to meet the heads of
2:54:37
state of Gabon, Guinea-Bissau, Liberia, Mauritania and
2:54:41
Senegal.
2:54:42
The meeting comes as U.S.-Africa encounters are
2:54:44
multiplying.
2:54:45
After tense one-on-one meeting between Trump
2:54:47
and South African President Sir Ramaphosa in May,
2:54:50
the White House brokered a peace deal between
2:54:53
the DRC and Rwanda last month.
2:54:55
Plans for wider U.S.-Africa summit have also
2:54:58
been announced for September, although nothing has been
2:55:00
confirmed so far from either side.
2:55:02
It's very obvious what's happening in Africa.
2:55:05
We're making our moves.
2:55:07
We are blocking mainly China and of course
2:55:10
these countries, these five countries.
2:55:13
What do they have in common?
2:55:14
They are not BRICS nations.
2:55:17
BRICS nations in Africa and in the region,
2:55:19
Sudan, sorry.
2:55:21
In a statement published on June 27th, Washington
2:55:24
announced its sanctions against the Sudanese authorities have
2:55:27
taken effect.
2:55:28
According to the notice published in the Federal
2:55:30
Registry, the United States plans to stop all
2:55:33
arms sales to the Sudanese government, reduce access
2:55:36
to U.S. government loans, halt the export
2:55:39
of advanced technologies to Sudan, and limit all
2:55:41
U.S. exports to Sudan with the exception
2:55:44
of agricultural products and emergency humanitarian aid.
2:55:47
According to some analysts, the impact of these
2:55:50
sanctions on the war-torn country will be
2:55:52
limited.
2:55:52
The Sudanese Central Bank, for example, claims that
2:55:55
there are no direct U.S. exports to
2:55:57
Sudan.
2:55:58
The second aspect of the sanctions is the
2:56:00
impact on the U.S. administration's credit lines
2:56:03
and what it pays to Sudan.
2:56:05
Currently, the U.S. administration doesn't pay anything
2:56:07
to Sudan, whether it's the organizations or the
2:56:10
institutions.
2:56:11
Last May, the U.S. State Department accused
2:56:13
the authorities of using chemical weapons against the
2:56:16
paramilitary Rapid Support Forces in 2024.
2:56:19
The Sudanese government, led by General al-Burhan,
2:56:22
denies these accusations and denounces political blackmail.
2:56:25
Since April 2023, a bloody war has pitted
2:56:29
the general against the paramilitary forces led by
2:56:32
Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo, causing the deaths of thousands
2:56:35
of people and the displacement of 15 million
2:56:38
others.
2:56:39
U.S. sanctions have also been handed out
2:56:41
in the past against the RSF leader, whose
2:56:43
paramilitary troops have been accused of committing genocide.
2:56:47
There you go.
2:56:49
NATO versus BRICS, it's on.
2:56:51
I wonder what they're going to do with
2:56:52
Egypt.
2:56:53
You know, Egypt jumped into that BRICS thing.
2:56:55
That's going to be a problem for Egypt.
2:56:58
Should be eventually.
2:57:00
Yeah.
2:57:01
I just find the whole thing that, you
2:57:02
know, the empire is kicking some ass.
2:57:07
Yes, very much so.
2:57:09
There was an interesting analysis on one of
2:57:11
the public stations, which was about that Rwanda
2:57:15
DRC deal that Trump had two guys in
2:57:18
the office.
2:57:19
They signed off on it, even though in
2:57:20
CNN, I don't know.
2:57:21
I don't think it was real.
2:57:23
Yeah.
2:57:25
Biden's administration was offered the possibility of doing
2:57:28
this, and they just said, no, we don't
2:57:30
care.
2:57:31
No, because they're run by China.
2:57:33
Yeah, they were run by China.
2:57:35
I mean, didn't the Bidens have some pretty
2:57:37
deep ties to China?
2:57:38
It looks like it looks more and more
2:57:40
like China was running the country while Biden
2:57:42
was in office.
2:57:43
Maybe.
2:57:44
Five minute warning, John, last clip for you.
2:57:47
Well, let's see.
2:57:48
I've got a couple of clips, but I'll
2:57:50
look for a good one here.
2:57:51
How about this?
2:57:53
This is something I can complain about.
2:57:55
This is the Wisconsin abortion, and I call
2:57:59
it Wisconsin abortion idiots.
2:58:02
NPR clip.
2:58:03
I have a comment.
2:58:05
Abortion remains legal in Wisconsin after the state
2:58:08
Supreme Court released a decision today.
2:58:11
Sarah Lear from Wisconsin Public Radio reports.
2:58:14
After the overturn of Roe v.
2:58:16
Wade in 2022, providers across Wisconsin stopped providing
2:58:20
abortions.
2:58:20
They were worried about being prosecuted under a
2:58:23
19th century state law, which bans all abortions
2:58:27
unless they're done to save a pregnant woman's
2:58:29
life.
2:58:30
That prompted Wisconsin's Democratic attorney general to sue
2:58:32
to try and block enforcement of that law.
2:58:35
In late 2023, a county judge ruled the
2:58:37
law in question does not actually ban abortions,
2:58:41
prompting clinics in the state to once again
2:58:43
offer the procedure.
2:58:44
Now the state's highest court has cemented the
2:58:47
effects of that lower court decision.
2:58:49
Justices said the pre-Civil War law could
2:58:51
not remain in effect because it was superseded
2:58:54
by abortion laws passed later.
2:58:57
All right, John C.
2:58:58
Dvorak, your commentary.
2:58:59
This is a Democrat.
2:59:01
What was the fuss about?
2:59:03
All they had to do was just go
2:59:05
to the legislature and say, let's just pass
2:59:07
a quick law to ban that old 1840
2:59:10
law.
2:59:10
And we'll just have abortions modeled after whatever
2:59:14
California, for example.
2:59:16
They could have done a lot of things.
2:59:17
But no, they go to all these crazy
2:59:19
lawsuits one way or the other.
2:59:20
They have it.
2:59:21
It's a Democrat run state.
2:59:23
What is the problem?
2:59:24
They can't get off their asses to do
2:59:26
a simple legislative move.
2:59:28
I don't know.
2:59:30
The whole thing is stupid.
2:59:32
OK, I have no idea what's going on.
2:59:36
I had the clip, too, but I don't
2:59:38
know.
2:59:39
You'd think that it would be well, they're
2:59:42
doing odd things there.
2:59:44
Maybe they wanted to make a big fuss.
2:59:46
They wanted to bring it to the fore.
2:59:48
Oh, so large.
2:59:50
Oh, it's all fat.
2:59:51
This is Trump's fault.
2:59:52
This is bullcrap.
2:59:55
Final clip for me.
2:59:56
I thought this was an interesting move from
2:59:59
you, Penn.
3:00:01
This morning, the University of Pennsylvania reversing course,
3:00:04
saying it will now ban transgender athletes and
3:00:07
strip trans swimmer Leah Thomas of her swimming
3:00:09
titles.
3:00:09
The school reaching a deal with the Trump
3:00:11
administration, saying it will comply with Title nine,
3:00:14
as interpreted by the Department of Education and
3:00:17
saying it will restore the records and titles
3:00:19
of female athletes who lost to Thomas and
3:00:21
send apology letters to them.
3:00:24
Leah Thomas made history in 2022, becoming the
3:00:27
first openly transgender athlete to win an NCAA
3:00:30
Division one title.
3:00:32
The win sparked fierce debate over fairness, including
3:00:35
from some of Thomas's own teammates.
3:00:37
I knew there would be scrutiny against me
3:00:40
if I competed as a woman.
3:00:46
I was prepared for that.
3:00:48
The Trump administration earlier this year suspended one
3:00:50
hundred and seventy five million dollars in federal
3:00:52
funds from Penn, claiming the University of Pennsylvania
3:00:55
repeatedly violated civil rights laws by allowing men
3:00:58
to compete in women's sports.
3:01:00
Education Secretary Linda McMahon calling Penn's new agreement
3:01:03
a major victory for women and girls nationwide.
3:01:06
No comment yet from the NCAA or Leah
3:01:09
Thomas.
3:01:09
But in a 2022 interview, she defended her
3:01:12
decision to compete.
3:01:13
Trans people don't transition for athletics.
3:01:17
We just want to be able to live
3:01:20
our lives.
3:01:21
The NCAA still recognizes her championship win, but
3:01:24
Penn has removed her swimming records from its
3:01:26
website.
3:01:27
I mean, wow, that's more.
3:01:29
I don't understand why they don't think I'm
3:01:31
a girl.
3:01:33
What do you think happened there?
3:01:36
How did that all of a sudden change?
3:01:38
You, Penn?
3:01:39
I mean, what must have happened?
3:01:41
Somebody looked at the books.
3:01:43
They don't have the endowment Harvard has, and
3:01:45
they figure they couldn't wait it out.
3:01:47
And they're new at this.
3:01:48
No, why would it's the simplest thing to
3:01:51
do?
3:01:51
You crazy.
3:01:52
You know, what are you going to fight
3:01:53
this like the way Harvard's doing all the
3:01:56
way?
3:01:57
It's going to cost you a lot of
3:01:58
money.
3:01:58
It's embarrassing.
3:02:00
And there were there were the lead operation
3:02:02
with this Leah Thomas person, you know, big
3:02:05
dude, huge.
3:02:07
I don't understand it.
3:02:10
And so it's borderline ludicrous.
3:02:15
Or maybe a picture showed up.
3:02:19
What's that in your mouth?
3:02:34
In the morning.
3:02:36
Yeah, that's right.
3:02:37
Remember, we have those fabulous A.I. end
3:02:39
of show mixes on the way, of course,
3:02:41
a non-A.I., a human tip of
3:02:43
the day from our very own John C.
3:02:45
Dvorak.
3:02:46
And we have some meetups and we have
3:02:48
some PhDs, lots of birthdays today for some
3:02:51
reason, and one nighting.
3:02:52
And of course, we want to thank everybody
3:02:54
who supported the show.
3:02:55
Fifty dollars and above.
3:02:56
John C.
3:02:57
Dvorak, go.
3:03:00
Clip two.
3:03:01
Clip two, yes.
3:03:02
Paul Levy in Grinnell, Iowa.
3:03:06
One hundred bucks.
3:03:06
And Baron Latican, there he is in Houston,
3:03:08
Texas.
3:03:09
One hundred.
3:03:10
John Robben, a hundred.
3:03:11
A lot of hundreds today.
3:03:12
Lucas Zuha in Denmark, I guess.
3:03:18
Or is that Deutschland?
3:03:19
That's Deutschland.
3:03:20
Yeah, Deutschland.
3:03:21
Yeah, Deutschland.
3:03:22
A hundred.
3:03:23
He's in Bayerbrunn.
3:03:26
Sir F.A.N. Beck in Vista, California.
3:03:30
A hundred.
3:03:31
Another donation from Lucas for a hundred.
3:03:34
It's interesting.
3:03:36
That could be a duplicate.
3:03:37
Maybe not.
3:03:38
It's hard to say.
3:03:38
But there he is.
3:03:41
Kevin McLaughlin comes in at 8008, by the
3:03:44
way.
3:03:44
He is the Archduke of Luna.
3:03:46
Lover of America and lover of melons.
3:03:49
He has a DSA, Laos DEO, which translates
3:03:54
to Praise Be to God, inscribed on top
3:03:56
of the Ing, Washington Monument, facing east toward
3:04:00
the rising sun.
3:04:02
Happy Independence Day, he says.
3:04:04
Sir F.A.N., he donates every single
3:04:07
show.
3:04:07
He does indeed.
3:04:08
Sir Fast Eddie in Alameda, California.
3:04:10
Hey, Fast Eddie.
3:04:12
8008.
3:04:13
Rick, what is it?
3:04:18
Mooyman.
3:04:19
Mooyman.
3:04:20
Mooyman.
3:04:20
Mooyman.
3:04:21
Yeah, you got this.
3:04:22
You got this.
3:04:23
And he's in Rijswijk.
3:04:26
Rijswijk.
3:04:26
Close.
3:04:28
Rijswijk.
3:04:28
Rijswijk, which is the rising Viking in Holland.
3:04:35
8008.
3:04:36
That is another boob donation.
3:04:37
We got a lot of boob donations today.
3:04:38
It's his birthday.
3:04:39
Oh, it was on July 2nd.
3:04:41
Yes.
3:04:42
Okay.
3:04:42
You're on the list.
3:04:44
Kevin Knutson, 80.
3:04:47
And this is for Jill, who turns 80.
3:04:51
Now, they wrote a note in.
3:04:52
69, not 89.
3:04:53
It's actually on a piece of paper.
3:04:55
69.
3:04:56
Kind of hard to ignore.
3:05:00
And it's from the desk of John and
3:05:03
Adam.
3:05:03
This check and note will arrive post Jill's
3:05:07
birthday.
3:05:08
And he wants a shout out for his.
3:05:10
She's going to be 69 years young.
3:05:13
Yes.
3:05:14
Remember, guys, always marry up.
3:05:17
I sure did.
3:05:19
That's a compliment to his wife.
3:05:21
Jay Doucette in Stevensville, Canada.
3:05:27
NL is.
3:05:28
I don't know where one of the places.
3:05:30
Hello, guys.
3:05:32
He writes Newfoundland.
3:05:33
That's what NL is.
3:05:34
Okay.
3:05:34
Yes.
3:05:36
Then he came out 78, 77.
3:05:39
But there's something interesting.
3:05:41
He says here.
3:05:41
I always punch people in the mouth and
3:05:43
have my wife Katja listening, but she can
3:05:45
never remember the name of the show and
3:05:47
says, who are those guys that are always
3:05:50
fighting?
3:05:53
That will be us.
3:05:55
And you know what it is?
3:05:57
It's because people are not used to hearing
3:05:59
disagreement anymore.
3:06:02
No, they've been watching K-Part and Brooks.
3:06:05
All they hear is disagreement.
3:06:07
You're right.
3:06:08
Oh, no, you're a writer than I am.
3:06:10
But it's the same on podcasts.
3:06:11
You know, all these podcasters go on each
3:06:13
other's pockets.
3:06:16
Oh, definitely.
3:06:17
Oh, sure, Megan.
3:06:21
James Sissy.
3:06:22
Oh, actually, sorry.
3:06:23
Jeffrey McNeil in Somerville, South Carolina, 78, 77.
3:06:27
James Sissy, 76, 96.
3:06:33
He says, I enjoy this product.
3:06:36
Good.
3:06:37
Exactly that voice.
3:06:39
We enjoy making it for you.
3:06:42
Dame Rita.
3:06:43
There she is.
3:06:43
Dame Rita's back, 76, 74.
3:06:45
Dame Rita, always in the house.
3:06:49
Derek Allison in Rock Springs, Wyoming, 76, 17.
3:06:53
Earl Hugger of Kitties in Zondam, Holland, 74,
3:06:58
25.
3:06:59
Hug more kitties, he writes.
3:07:01
Christopher Hodges in Union, Mississippi, 74, 25.
3:07:05
Donald Mills, Shasta Lake, California, 74, 25.
3:07:10
A happy fourth.
3:07:11
The Dame Dana Carroll in Laughlin, Nevada.
3:07:14
She comes in quite a bit, 72, 27.
3:07:17
Lisa Falcone in Williams Lake, BC,
3:07:26
65, 80.
3:07:31
She's happy that we shrink her amygdala.
3:07:34
Sir Darius Unity in Rocky Mount, North Carolina,
3:07:38
63, 31.
3:07:42
I don't know what he says there.
3:07:44
He says he sent me a long boots
3:07:46
on the ground.
3:07:46
That's correct.
3:07:46
Oh, good.
3:07:47
Okay.
3:07:48
Les Tarkowski, Kingman, Arizona, 6006.
3:07:51
Sir Dancing Mike.
3:07:53
There he is, dancing away in Maryville, Tennessee,
3:07:55
55, 55.
3:07:56
This is a birthday donation.
3:07:57
For his wife.
3:07:59
Yes, Dame Denise.
3:08:00
Dame Denise.
3:08:02
Murrayville, Murrayville.
3:08:03
Anonymous, Thousand Oaks, California, 55, 55.
3:08:06
Brian Furley, 55, 10.
3:08:08
Double nickels on the dime.
3:08:09
Diana Grilly Camden in Junction City, Ohio, 54,
3:08:17
30.
3:08:19
A lot of names today.
3:08:21
John Bassano in Madison, Alabama, 52, 72.
3:08:24
This will make up for what's going to
3:08:26
happen on Sunday when no one's going to
3:08:27
be listening or donating.
3:08:30
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uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
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uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
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uh, uh, ...
3:11:29
the 5th.
3:11:30
He's the Chinese baby boy.
3:11:32
Dan Peruzzo, his smoking hot wife Bailey Davies,
3:11:35
celebrates tomorrow.
3:11:36
Sir Dancing Mike wishes his smoking hot wife
3:11:39
Dame Denise a very happy 55th tomorrow.
3:11:42
No, on the 5th, I'm sorry.
3:11:44
And Bailey is on the 5th as well.
3:11:45
Wesley Childs, his wife Lauren from Macon, Georgia,
3:11:48
happy birthday on the 6th.
3:11:49
She turns 37.
3:11:51
And surprise, night of astonishment, says happy birthday
3:11:54
to Dame Ma Su, turns 69 on July
3:11:58
8th.
3:11:58
Happy birthday to all of these birthday boys
3:12:00
and girls from the best podcast in the
3:12:02
universe.
3:12:05
Russell Hinton receives a PhD in media deconstruction
3:12:08
thanks to his support of the show.
3:12:10
He was our top executive producer.
3:12:11
And you can go to noagendarings.com and
3:12:14
give us the name you want on your
3:12:16
PhD and the address to send it to.
3:12:18
We'll be happy to do that, Russell.
3:12:20
Congratulations with your certificate, with your PhD.
3:12:24
And it's a real one from us.
3:12:26
And then we have one night to celebrate.
3:12:28
That will be the same, Russell Hinton.
3:12:29
So if you can grab your blade, John.
3:12:31
Yeah, I got it right here.
3:12:32
Beautiful, Russell.
3:12:34
PhD, Mr. Russell, step right up.
3:12:37
Thanks to your support of the NOAA Gymnasium
3:12:39
and the amount of $1,000 or more,
3:12:41
I'm very proud to pronounce KB as Sir
3:12:44
Russell Hinton.
3:12:46
For you, we've got hookahs and blow, red
3:12:47
boys and chardonnay.
3:12:48
We've got taquitos and tequila, diet soda and
3:12:51
video games, fish pie and fellatio.
3:12:53
Harlins and haldol, redheads and rise.
3:12:55
We've got beer and blunts, Brazilian hotties and
3:12:58
cachaça, cowgirls and coffee varnish, coffin varnish, lupin
3:13:02
-esque, luminum rosé, geishas and sake, vodka and
3:13:04
vanilla, bong hits of bourbon, sparkling cider and
3:13:06
eskort, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and
3:13:09
tablum.
3:13:09
And as always at the roundtable for all
3:13:11
of our NOAA Gender Knights and Dames, we
3:13:13
have mutton and mead.
3:13:16
While you're chomping on that along with the
3:13:17
rest of our Knights and Dames here at
3:13:19
the NOAA Gender Roundtable, head over to noagenderings
3:13:21
.com.
3:13:22
That's where you'll see the very handsome Knight
3:13:25
and Dame rings.
3:13:26
These are Cignet rings, so when you receive
3:13:28
this, and please give us a ring size.
3:13:31
There's a ring sizing guide on the website
3:13:32
and an address to send it to.
3:13:34
You'll get a couple of sticks of wax.
3:13:36
With that, it can be used to seal
3:13:38
your very important correspondence as it is a
3:13:41
Cignet ring.
3:13:41
And as always, it comes with a Certificate
3:13:44
of Authenticity.
3:13:46
And, uh, hold on, I forgot my meetups
3:13:48
jingle.
3:13:48
Oh boy, I am unprepared for some reason.
3:13:52
Oh, that's because of the, that's because of
3:13:53
your phone call.
3:13:54
That's what happened.
3:13:55
Hey, by the way, it was a Chinese
3:13:56
guy.
3:13:57
Oh, what did the Chinese guy?
3:13:59
In Chinese.
3:14:00
What did he say?
3:14:02
I see he said something.
3:14:04
I'm not going to do a Chinese, but
3:14:05
I cussed him out in Chinese.
3:14:06
I do have a few choice words.
3:14:08
Oh, really?
3:14:08
You care to share your Chinese cuss words?
3:14:10
No, if you go over the air, no.
3:14:11
Oh, okay.
3:14:12
No agenda meetups.
3:14:18
Yeah, baby, it's always like a party at
3:14:21
the no agenda meetups.
3:14:22
I think we have another one come up
3:14:23
in Fredericksburg, but not until October, but I'm
3:14:26
very excited about that.
3:14:27
It just got locked in yesterday.
3:14:29
Uh, there is a meetup taking place today
3:14:31
at the Northern Wake, FEMA region number four
3:14:33
potluck and whiskey, uh, that kicks off in
3:14:36
just about, uh, about a half hour from
3:14:38
now, six o'clock Eastern hoppy endings in
3:14:41
Raleigh, North Carolina.
3:14:43
And tomorrow 4th of July is July 4th
3:14:45
in Victoria.
3:14:47
Just beer in the sun.
3:14:48
Five 30.
3:14:49
That's at the lighthouse brewery in Victoria, British
3:14:52
Columbia, sir.
3:14:53
Rogue of the taverns and his dog rogue
3:14:54
are organizing that coming up in the month
3:14:57
of July, Santa Barbara, California, and the 10th,
3:14:59
the last dent, the last Denver city park
3:15:02
meetup in Denver on the 12th, Zurich, Switzerland
3:15:04
on the 12th, the 13th Camp Hill, Pennsylvania,
3:15:07
Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 19th, Albany, California.
3:15:10
John will be there on the 19th and
3:15:12
July 26, Anaheim, California.
3:15:15
No doubt.
3:15:15
That's Leo Bravo.
3:15:16
Probably now on number 65.
3:15:18
I think no agenda meetups are where you
3:15:20
meet the first responders in your life.
3:15:23
Connection is protection.
3:15:24
You need to go to at least one
3:15:25
of these.
3:15:26
I guarantee you you'll keep coming back for
3:15:27
more, go to no agenda, meetups.com to
3:15:30
find out where there is one being organized
3:15:31
near you.
3:15:32
If you can't find one near you, well,
3:15:34
how about this?
3:15:35
Start one yourself.
3:15:36
It's easy.
3:15:36
No agenda, meetups.com.
3:15:38
Sometimes you want to go hang out with
3:15:41
all the nights and days.
3:15:56
Yes.
3:16:00
With John's tip of the day on the
3:16:03
way, we always like to choose some end
3:16:05
of show ISOs at this particular moment in
3:16:08
the show.
3:16:10
I have a couple here.
3:16:11
Do you have any ISOs for today?
3:16:13
I have a couple, but why don't you
3:16:15
play yours?
3:16:15
Okay.
3:16:16
May the fourth be with you.
3:16:19
May the fourth be with you, huh?
3:16:23
Okay, my next one.
3:16:25
Come on, man.
3:16:26
You know you love it.
3:16:30
Here's another one.
3:16:31
That's info war journalism right there.
3:16:35
But you use an AI now?
3:16:37
That's not AI.
3:16:39
No, that's not AI.
3:16:40
And this one.
3:16:42
I think I need a cigarette after all
3:16:44
that.
3:16:44
Nah, come on, man.
3:16:46
That's good.
3:16:47
That's good.
3:16:47
It's three seconds, same as everything else.
3:16:51
Because I've always wanted to use sound effects,
3:16:52
so I got some stuff from NPR.
3:16:54
Here's the laughs.
3:16:59
Nah, I think you can do better than
3:17:01
that.
3:17:02
Okay, well, I didn't.
3:17:04
Well, I went to my go-to and
3:17:06
here we go.
3:17:07
Oh, sorry.
3:17:09
Wow.
3:17:09
Why don't these guys win all the podcasting
3:17:11
awards?
3:17:12
Because we don't pay the entry fee.
3:17:16
That's why.
3:17:17
And now it is time once again for
3:17:18
John Cena Borax tip of the day.
3:17:31
So there's a, I wanted to do this.
3:17:34
I should have done this tip a long
3:17:35
time ago.
3:17:36
And I discovered this product when I went
3:17:39
to Peru once.
3:17:41
And you can get them from Amazon.
3:17:44
They're made in Ecuador.
3:17:45
They're handmade in Ecuador and Peru and maybe
3:17:48
some other South American countries.
3:17:49
These are alpaca blankets.
3:17:54
Handmade alpaca blankets.
3:17:56
Wait a minute.
3:17:57
Can't you just get those from John Doerr's
3:17:59
wife?
3:18:02
You wouldn't get them.
3:18:03
They wouldn't be as good.
3:18:04
Oh, okay.
3:18:04
So they're not expensive considering they're made out
3:18:08
of alpaca wool.
3:18:09
They can be light or heavy.
3:18:12
They are beautiful.
3:18:15
And I would just advise one thing.
3:18:17
Don't get any of them that have a
3:18:19
lot of black color.
3:18:20
Oh, why is that?
3:18:22
You know, I bought a sweater in the
3:18:24
Andes.
3:18:26
You know, when I was a kid, I
3:18:27
bought a sweater in the Andes.
3:18:29
You should just start off every conversation.
3:18:32
You know, when I bought a sweater in
3:18:33
the Andes, on my way to Doha.
3:18:36
Yes.
3:18:37
And so it was like what they use
3:18:40
for black dye is not compatible with Western
3:18:44
civilization.
3:18:45
Let's put it that way.
3:18:46
Okay.
3:18:46
All right.
3:18:47
So get the colors.
3:18:48
The colors are fine.
3:18:49
But these blankets are available.
3:18:51
They have them on Amazon.
3:18:52
There's a couple of companies that make them.
3:18:53
Make sure they're handmade alpaca blanket.
3:18:57
It's the greatest.
3:18:58
And they also, you can use them as
3:19:00
a spread, a bed spread.
3:19:02
They're dynamite.
3:19:04
Dynamite.
3:19:04
They're super warm.
3:19:06
They're just a fabulous product.
3:19:07
And I'm going to now push it, promote
3:19:10
the alpaca blanket.
3:19:11
And where do we get the alpaca blankets?
3:19:13
You can get them.
3:19:14
You can just, well, you can go to
3:19:16
Amazon and find some there.
3:19:17
And they have the brands there.
3:19:18
You can also look up the brands.
3:19:19
You can buy them directly from various sources.
3:19:22
You can put alpaca blanket, Peru, alpaca blanket,
3:19:25
Ecuador, and you'll find some online sites that
3:19:29
sell them.
3:19:29
They're all over the place.
3:19:31
They're actually very available.
3:19:33
It would be very nice if you promoted
3:19:34
an American product once in a while.
3:19:36
I mean, it's always junk from China.
3:19:39
It's always rugs from all the cleaning products
3:19:42
have been American.
3:19:44
Really?
3:19:45
Oh, yeah, of course.
3:19:47
Chemicals.
3:19:47
We're your guy.
3:19:48
We're good with the chemical.
3:19:50
We're a chemical country.
3:19:52
That's right.
3:19:52
There it is, everybody.
3:19:53
Go to tipoftheday.net for John C.
3:19:55
Duborek's Tip of the Day.
3:19:59
And that concludes our broadcast day once again,
3:20:10
where we deconstruct the media for you.
3:20:12
We spin you down.
3:20:14
We let you know what's really going on
3:20:16
in the world and the things that were
3:20:18
not reported of what's going on in the
3:20:20
world and the things that are just confusing.
3:20:23
That's why we're here.
3:20:26
Now, if you want to stick around, we
3:20:28
do have random thoughts coming up next on
3:20:31
the no agenda stream.
3:20:32
If you're at the troll room, trollroom.io,
3:20:34
just keep listening.
3:20:35
Or if you've got one of those fancy
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when a podcast is published, just keep listening,
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and you'll find it all.
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End of show mixes brought to you by
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Silicon Valley's AI, expertly prompted by Bonald Crabtree
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and Daniel Brown.
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Hold on to your hats, everybody.
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It's the future coming up next.
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And I am coming to you from the
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heart of the Texas Hill Country right here
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in picturesque Fredericksburg, where we always have a
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dynamite 4th of July parade.
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So I'll see you there if you're in
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the Hill Country.
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If not, until Sunday in the morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry.
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Yeah, from northern Silicon Valley, where everyone wishes
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you a happy Independence Day for the July.
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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Remember us at noagendthedonations.com until Sunday.
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Adios, mofos, hui hui, and such.
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Wake up already.
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Our world is fake and petty.
3:22:13
Adam Curry hates the AI machines.
3:22:16
Resist what's inevitable.
3:22:18
You'll never stay credible.
3:22:20
He hates AI and the mainframe regime.
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Woo!
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Spot the spook on the jukebox.
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Spot them all in the troll room.
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So go learn AI in a hurry.
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I mean, I'm just gonna allow AI songs
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for the end of show mix now, because
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you're right.
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Okay, okay.
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I'm not gonna criticize you for this.
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You can't.
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Okay, because it's not really a criticism.
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You're, you cave, but you cave to modernity.
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Dream of a broadcast, not tied to any
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brand.
3:23:27
With an Apple script spark and a rebel's
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heart, he builds a new medium, gave the
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world a fresh start.
3:23:35
He's the godfather, the voice who led the
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way, turned dreams into downloads, made history that
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day.
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From daily source code to no agenda's call.
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Adam Curry lit the fuse, now podcasts reach
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us all.
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No network needed.
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No gatekeepers here.
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Just an RSS feed and a voice in
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your ear.
3:24:03
He opened the door so creators could play.
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Now millions of stories are just a click
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away.
3:24:09
It's freedom of speech.
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It's a digital stage.
3:24:13
A revolution in media, the turning of an
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age.
3:24:16
From humble beginnings to a worldwide embrace.
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The podfather's vision for podcasts in their face.
3:24:27
Wake up in the morning, coffee in my
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cup.
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Turn on no agenda, time to catch up.
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John Dvorak's ready, he's got something to say.
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A nugget of wisdom to brighten my day.
3:24:47
Tip of the day, the Dvorak way.
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From scrubbers to gadgets, he's leading the way.
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A life hack, a shortcut, a tool or
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a trick.
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With John's daily tip, I learn something quick.
3:25:08
Scrub buddies in the kitchen, cleaning up with
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ease.
3:25:14
Or Airsham in my toolbox, doing what I
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please.
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He's got a tip for living, for work
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and for play.
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A moment of genius, the Dvorak way.
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John's tip of the day, you'll be a
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life hack with.
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Be a life hack with.
3:25:40
You'll be a life hack with.
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The best podcast in the universe.
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Adios, mofo.
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Dvorak.org slash N-A-M-E.
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Wow, why don't these guys win all the
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podcasting awards?