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August 21st • 3h 30m

1792: Meloni in the Middle

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I don't need the aggravation of ear mold.
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's the early August 21st, 2025.
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This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media
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Assassination Episode 1792.
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This is no agenda.
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We have a dry latch.
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And we're broadcasting live from the heart of
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the Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA Region
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Number 6.
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Good morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry.
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And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we applaud
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President Trump.
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Going on patrol.
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's Claggott and Buzzkill.
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In the morning.
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And what did I miss?
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He went on patrol?
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No, he's going on patrol tonight.
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Oh, is he doing a ride-along?
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Yeah, in D.C. That's great.
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He just came out this morning.
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What's great is that people in other cities
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are going, hey, hey, hey, President Trump, come
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do that in our city.
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It's going to catch on.
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You watch.
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It's going to catch on so far because
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he actually has the authority to do it
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in D.C. He doesn't have the authority
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to do it in San Francisco to this
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extreme.
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No, but he has.
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This is about the crime bill.
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It's going to be the Trump.
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Hold on a second.
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The Trump Crime Bill, Batman.
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That's what it's going to be.
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And you only got to hope that it
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turns out right, because other crime bills in
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the past, like that of 1992, it's not
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such a good deal.
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Although now they're kind of, the Democrats are
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kind of bragging about those old crime bills
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by Clinton and Biden.
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Yeah.
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Well, Trump's not doing anything new.
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Crime was really reduced because of Clinton.
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What?
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The 92 Crime Bill, of course, incarcerated over
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a million black men for smoking weed.
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Weed.
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So the minute you see a kid on
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the front of Time Magazine or Time website,
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where you're holding an Uzi, smoking a spliff,
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then you know that, then you know they're
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serious about the crime bill.
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Because that's what it was.
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Lil, what was the kid's name?
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From the 90s, oh man, Moe, Moe, Moe,
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where are you when I need you?
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Lil, Lil, what was it?
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Lil Abby.
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No, no, it was not Lil Abner.
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Lil Billy.
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No, it was- Lil Duncan.
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No, someone in the troll room should know
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by now.
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I don't even know.
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Yeah, it was the Lil Yummy.
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Thank you.
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Lil Yummy.
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It was like a nine-year-old gang
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member, Lil Yankee.
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Lil Yummy was on the cover of Time
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Magazine.
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And that was the whole impetus.
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Yeah, that was when Hillary Clinton was out
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there saying, you know, um, these, did she
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say degenerates?
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No, it was- Something like that.
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Hey, how good are we?
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Two forgetful boomers.
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So that was, that was the, it was
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the Biden crime bill.
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Then, I'm sorry, 90, not 92, 94.
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94 Biden crime bill.
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What was Clinton's phrase?
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She used, it was exploit, the term was
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a synonym for exploitative.
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It was, um, Clinton.
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I'd have to ask her.
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Well, there's only one way to go.
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Yeah, you got your buddy there.
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Why don't you ask her?
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Okay.
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The 1994, uh, Biden crime bill.
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What did Hillary Clinton call the perpetrators like
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Lil Yummy?
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Oh, she called them super predators.
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There you go, super predators.
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Thank you.
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We don't need to remember anything.
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We've got error.
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We've got error here.
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Super predators.
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Error.
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Her name's Error.
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That's her name now, Error.
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Does she make mistakes?
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You think?
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Error.
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Error, error.
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Yeah, everyone's publishing articles now.
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It seems to be the new, new thing
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to publish articles about the AI hype being
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over.
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Yeah.
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Oh, that means it's not over.
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I, I'm in agreement with you when they
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say it's, because you know, it's Altman.
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Altman is coming out and he's saying, oh,
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you know, the LA Times.
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Say farewell to the AI bubble.
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Get ready for the crash.
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Well, he never said say farewell to the
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bubble.
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He just said there is a bubble.
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Well, no, this is the headline from the
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Los Angeles Times.
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I didn't, it's not cool.
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They're making it up.
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It's not in quotation marks.
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He's just saying it.
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He's just saying now.
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Well, he's not saying that he's saying it's
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a bubble.
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He's not saying the bubble's over about the
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birds.
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Correct.
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Correct.
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They're the ones saying that.
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The thing though.
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Um, and if I was a newspaper, I'd
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say stuff like that too.
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I'm a little conflicted because I got a
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report from CBS, which plays right into, I
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would hope the Gen Z's that you and
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I have raised in these past 18 years,
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because we have raised a nation, John.
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We have raised a generation of smart thinking
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kids.
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This is where you say, yes, indeed, Adam.
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They're fabulous.
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And I hope that they have heeded our
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advice throughout the years through our complaints about
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lack of shop and home ec and other
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trades and apprenticeships.
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And maybe a few, maybe a few have
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thought about it because those who have listened
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to the boomer show are about to get
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rich.
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Brandon Fry feels squeezed by two businesses trending
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in opposite directions.
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Data centers, such as this one he manages
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outside Chicago, come along with soaring demand.
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Everything in here needs servicing.
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Everything in here needs service.
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Tech support, tech support, HVAC support, electricians.
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But the supply of technical support he needs
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available 24 seven keeps shrinking.
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What your customers don't want to hear is
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we can't find somebody for them.
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That's the last thing they want to hear.
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And that will be the last conversation we
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likely have with them as a customer.
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Data centers now compete with factories and manufacturing
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plants for electricians and plumbers.
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As older blue collar workers retire, younger people
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look at college and white collar jobs.
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It's a growing labor crisis.
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Roughly 400,000 skilled trade jobs are unfilled
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in America.
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By 2033, it's estimated that number could hit
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close to two million.
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Now, listen to the numbers, what kind of
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money you can make as a plumber with
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your butt crack.
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It's awesome.
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You got to be able to do more
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with less.
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Matt Roseland, an executive for a software company
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called IFS.
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I'm sorry.
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First, you got to get some tech guy
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and shove it in here for no reason
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in the story.
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Says new technology is one solution.
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And you can see this is changing dynamically.
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His company sells this program that helps companies
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route and reroute their fleet of technicians.
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You can take things like weather, traffic, different
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priorities, and add that on top.
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When you think about the labor shortages that
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are out there, and you want to create
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more efficiencies and do more with less, this
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is how that's going to happen.
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Back at the data center, Dan Brown knows
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there's a labor crisis.
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We're always looking for good people to hire.
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But doesn't understand it.
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He told us in Chicago, experienced HVAC technicians
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make more than $150,000 without student debt.
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The trace kind of got neglected.
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So now there's a void that needs to
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be filled.
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And you're busier than ever.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Across the floor, electrician Kevin Fishback sees hope.
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His local union's aggressively recruiting young workers for
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its apprenticeship program.
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They come into trades and they got insurance.
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They got health care.
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They got a pension.
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That's an update with power for Brandon Frye.
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That this career path is out there and
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it is a valuable career path to take.
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But for now, the data's in and it's
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unmistakable.
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Help wanted.
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For Eye on America, I'm Mark Strassman in
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Chicago.
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And of course, we want to thank President
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Obama for telling everybody to learn how to
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code.
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Good job.
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Good job.
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Which was the worst advice ever, it looks
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like.
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Good job, President Obama.
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No.
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And I think you can still just jump
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in on an apprenticeship.
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I'm sure that there's plumbers and HVAC companies
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out there that would love to have a
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few.
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There's not as many as there should be.
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That's the real problem.
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The idea of apprenticeships has gone out of
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favor.
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The apprenticeship has sailed?
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No, it's gone out of favor.
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Well, you know, when they see the demand
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for people, I'm pretty sure that they're going
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to.
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Oh, no, it has to come back.
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It's always been there.
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It's how it works.
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You really can't graduate from high school as
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a plumber.
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You can't graduate from college as a plumber.
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No.
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You have to be shown how to be
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one by someone who knows how to do
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it right and professionally.
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I'll tell you, if this gig comes to
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an end, I'm going into plumbing.
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Plumbing 2.0. Well, yes.
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Meanwhile, we know that the bubble has to
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be kept afloat and inflating at all costs.
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The bubble's going to get bigger than a
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lot of people like to imagine.
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Well, it has to because according to Bloomberg
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surveillance, we need it.
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How do you think about GDP?
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Well, you know, everybody has, I guess, redefined
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what reasonable is or what Jay Powell describes
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as solid when we're barely running the economy
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so far this year, barely over a 1
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% annual rate.
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I mean, when I started in the business
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in the mid-80s, you got down to
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a one handle on real GDP growth and
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people were talking about reasonable.
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People were talking about stall speed and then
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asking, when's the recession going to start?
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The economy, I think, is sputtering.
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It's uneven.
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You know, without the proliferation of AI data
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centers and all the technology spending related to
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generative AI, the economy would actually be in
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recession right now.
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Yeah, I believe it.
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I believe it.
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We need all these data centers and everything.
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Of course, it's unfortunate that people are paying
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for it and paying for your stupid chat
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GPT by your electric bill and utilities doubling.
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I wonder when that riot is going to
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start.
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It has to.
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It has to.
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People aren't going to take it anymore.
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Yeah, well, it's easy for you to say.
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Yeah, it's easy for me to say because
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it's true.
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When people, when they're like, I think it
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was like in Indiana alone, 80,000 people
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got switched off because they couldn't pay their
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bill, which had doubled.
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At a certain point, people get pretty antsy
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about that stuff.
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Yeah, well, who are they going to take
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it out on?
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Their city council, their mayor, their city manager.
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The mayor and city council don't.
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City manager.
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Except in some cities.
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But generally speaking, they don't determine the rates
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of the PG&E, for example, in California,
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which is who's the head of PG&E
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working some woman.
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Yeah, well, hey, Luigi, Luigi, Luigi.
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This is where we're at in our culture
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right now.
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No, they have to suppress that.
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Wow, you are just so positive about everything
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going great, aren't you?
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I'm just telling you, these things are harder
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to do than you think.
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Ah, in California.
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Like what do people do with their high
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gas and electric bill?
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They stop using their power.
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And then they just say, OK, well, let's
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freeze to death.
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Buy more sweaters.
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All right, buy more sweaters.
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Put it in the Red Book.
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Riot's coming.
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Riot's coming, I'm telling you.
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It has to be that way.
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We're Americans, ultimately.
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Now, and then what after the riots, what
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are they going to do about it?
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PG&E can document that fact that because
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of their old power lines in the woods
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and the fact that they caught a bunch
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of places on fire, burned numerous millions of
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acres to the ground.
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And is it their fault that the line
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sparked because of a tree?
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Or is it the fault of the California
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people that don't do forest management anymore?
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They stopped doing it.
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Or is it the fault of people like
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Gavin Newsom who drained this?
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He didn't drain the swamp.
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He drained the reservoirs.
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He actually tore down two or three dams.
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Whose fault is that?
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Is that PG&E's fault?
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Is that the reason that the race have
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gone up?
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No, it's Gavin Newsom's fault.
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And who's riding against him?
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The Democrats are supporting him.
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Well, you're talking about California the whole time.
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California is not America.
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That's a whole different deal.
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California, that's the problem.
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California is America.
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You know, if California was Texas, we'd be
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better off.
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Although we're trying to be Texas.
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Oh, let's do whatever Texas is doing.
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Let's copy that.
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Oh, Texas is going to gerrymander like we
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always have done.
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So let's do our gerrymandering worse.
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Let's make us look like Massachusetts where we
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have no Republicans in any office whatsoever, you
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know, by cheating.
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And then pointing the finger at Texas.
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This is bullcrap.
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Well, let me give you...
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That's what I got to say.
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Let me...
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All right.
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Well, we'll get off the topic of California.
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Allow me to play a few clips here
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from what is happening in the United Kingdom,
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which has not come to violence yet, but
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it's brewing.
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And I've been around long enough.
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I remember those thin British coming down from
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the north to London with their pitchforks and
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their torches.
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It was not a pretty sight.
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And it's beginning now with Operation Raise the
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Colors.
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Have you heard of this?
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Okay, you got me on this one.
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Here we go.
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This is Marshall...
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Winston Marshall.
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He's a YouTuber, but he's a professional YouTuber.
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Over the weekend, a quiet revolution swept Britain.
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And if you only watch the mainstream media,
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you might never have known.
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It is the Raising the Colors movement.
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Up and down the country, flags are being
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hoisted and our streets are being adorned with
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the cross of St. George, the Union flag.
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Even roundabouts are being painted.
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The good people of the United Kingdom, in
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their calm, collected way, standing up.
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And of course, those of the establishment and
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the regressive left, who are not completely ignoring
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this movement, are doing what they can to
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undermine it.
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You get something called Operation Raise the Colors.
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That sounds very military.
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It sounds very aggressive.
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People aren't putting up this flag to celebrate
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Britain.
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They're putting up this flag to remind us
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that Britain is white and we shouldn't be
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here.
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When the BBC reported on the roundabout, they
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ran the headline roundabouts vandalized to look like
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St. George's flags.
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Contrast that with rainbow zebra crossings appear in
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resort.
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This morning, footage of Birmingham council frantically trying
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to paint over the St. George's roundabout emerged.
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At least two councils are working fast to
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take down the flags because they are deemed,
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quote unquote, dangerous and to be putting the
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lives of motorists and pedestrians at risk.
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So the government and the mainstream, everyone's trying
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to cover it up.
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Don't show those flags, take those flags down.
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By the way, you try that in America.
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If the city started to take down American
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flags, that would not go over.
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So listen to where this is happening.
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And of course, how it started is kind
15:55
of well known.
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There's a lot more going on here than
15:57
meets the eye.
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The British are a people with a tradition
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of being subtle with their patriotism.
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That seems to be changing.
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For good reason, which I'll explain.
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But let's have a look at how this
16:07
movement came about.
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This does not come out of nowhere.
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Through July and August, anti-immigration protests have
16:13
taken place outside of government-funded migrant hotels
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up and down the nation.
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London, Warwickshire, Solihull, Altrincham, Bournemouth, Aldershot, Ashfield,
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Southampton, Portsmouth, Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham, Liverpool, Newcastle,
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Norwich.
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Criminal incidents by those claiming asylum in local
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migrant hotels inspired the local communities to take
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the streets.
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Perhaps most famous of all was at the
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Bell Hotel in Epping, where protests were sparked
16:39
by the arrest and charging of an asylum
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seeker, Hadoush Kabatu, a 41-year-old from
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Ethiopia, who was accused of sexually assaulting a
16:46
14-year-old girl.
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The alleged incident occurred shortly after Kabatu arrived
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in the UK via a small boat, and
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he was residing at the Bell Hotel in
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Epping, Essex, which was being used to house
16:56
asylum seekers.
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The protests began following his court appearance in
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July.
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This, of course, comes after years of pent
17:03
-up anguish and frustration felt by British people
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because of sexual abuse by legal and illegal
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immigrants, asylum seekers, and communities of immigrant heritage.
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Most notably, of course, the rape gang scandal.
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The 2023 Knowsley Riots, which began because the
17:17
police failed to deal with advances on a
17:19
local girl by a man from a migrant
17:21
hotel, were a violent early example of such
17:24
protests.
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So this is just the UK starting this.
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This is starting to bubble under in every
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single European Union member state.
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Okay, so that's just flags.
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But when the grannies come out, this is
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when you got to be careful.
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The pink ladies are in effect.
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As with the grooming gang scandal, it wasn't
17:44
just the illegal behavior and sexual misconduct of
17:46
the immigrants which inspired the protests, but also
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the authorities' mishandling of affairs.
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Now, amongst all of these latest protests were
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the pink ladies.
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British mums uniting to defend their daughters and
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children.
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And this really might be the turning point
18:02
for Britain.
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When the mums get involved, it's serious.
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One of the organizers, Lorraine Cavanagh, explained.
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We are mothers, grandmothers, aunts, sisters who wanted
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to protect our family.
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We don't hate these men.
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We don't hate these men at all.
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What we hate is what the government has
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done.
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You know, we witness pensioners going up to
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the local supermarket, getting a basket and looking
18:34
for the red stickers for reduced labels to
18:36
get a bit of meat.
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And then we witness these guys, 20s, 30s,
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getting three meals a day in an unlimited
18:46
time, four-star hotel in Egyptian streets, you
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know, mobile phones.
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And now I'm understood they get a £500
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voucher to get clothing.
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And it's unfair.
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And that's why we were standing up, because
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it's unfair.
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Not because of the men.
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No doubt, half of them would go nowhere
19:05
near our children.
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But not one of them women are going
19:08
to play roulette with their child's life.
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You got to watch out when the British
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grannies come out.
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What are you going to do?
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You going to mow them down?
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Yeah, mow them down.
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Shoot them?
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Spray them with water?
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What always remains is that the similarity between,
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besides even a drag queen story hour, which
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appears in the EU, appears in Great Britain,
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or the fact that you have immigrants that
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are given cell phones and cash vouchers or
19:37
credit cards in the EU, in Great Britain,
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and here, what is the connection?
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There has to be some sort of international
19:46
connection, because you don't have these phenomenon in
19:49
these discrepant areas, specifically in Western areas, the
19:54
United States, the UK, EU, the exact same
19:59
phenomenon where migrants are invited in one way
20:02
or another, given free cash, given free cell
20:06
phones, given free accommodations here and there and
20:10
everywhere.
20:11
Who's coordinating this?
20:14
Well, that is coordinated by the globalists.
20:16
Yes.
20:17
But who specifically?
20:19
This is ridiculous that nobody, I mean, I'm
20:22
surprised that people have put up with this
20:24
for as long as they have.
20:26
Well, it started a long time ago with
20:30
political correctness, where people were told to shut
20:33
up, don't say anything mean or nasty, and
20:36
it just got worse and worse.
20:38
And then we threw in some BLM, and
20:40
everything with color became an issue, and cheap
20:44
labor.
20:45
Ultimately, it's cheap labor.
20:48
And when I say cheap labor, not just
20:50
in some factory, of which there's not that
20:52
much left anymore in Europe, but cheap labor
20:56
in the kitchen, cheap labor to do your
20:58
lawn, cheap labor to wash your car, cheap,
21:00
cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap labor.
21:01
Keep all of your kids on, it's about
21:04
money.
21:04
Keep all of your kids in debt for
21:09
education, you know, jack everything up.
21:13
It's about money.
21:14
Now, so who is that?
21:16
Obviously, the Jewish bankers.
21:17
I mean, what answer do you want from
21:19
me?
21:19
We all know the answer.
21:20
First of all, I don't think it's about
21:22
money, because half of these guys are on
21:27
welfare.
21:29
It's about breaking the backs of Western civilization.
21:33
Right.
21:34
It's not about money.
21:37
I mean, half these migrants aren't doing the
21:41
law on anybody's lawn.
21:42
That's nonsense.
21:43
People can do their own damn lawn.
21:44
People can do their own laundry.
21:46
All the things that they say, oh, who's
21:48
going to clean your toilets?
21:49
Clean your own damn toilets.
21:50
Have you been to the UK recently?
21:54
No, I haven't been since 2017.
21:56
Okay.
21:57
But that's fairly recently, and it was pretty
21:59
bad then.
22:00
It's accelerated.
22:01
It's accelerated.
22:02
Yeah, well, it's accelerated under Biden in this
22:05
country.
22:05
Yes.
22:06
When they let in 20 million immigrants.
22:08
Yes.
22:09
That didn't do anything but take away apartment
22:11
complexes.
22:12
All right, stop.
22:13
So then it's about political power.
22:16
If you want to equate it to what
22:17
happened here, we have a first row seat.
22:19
It was about redistricting, getting more, in this
22:23
case, Democrat seats and illegal voters.
22:27
So isn't it ultimately about power?
22:29
And isn't power about money?
22:30
Or is it just about power?
22:32
No, power is about power.
22:33
So they can sit there and stroke their
22:34
white pussy and go, I control you all,
22:38
you plebs.
22:39
Possibly.
22:40
I think it's closer to that.
22:41
But then who, who is behind it?
22:44
Well, it's definitely socialist Marxists and Democrats.
22:47
That's it.
22:48
And I think that is, I was thinking
22:49
about this the other day, that the whole
22:53
world, even humanity itself, naturally migrates towards socialism
22:59
and Marxism until it's too late and they
23:01
figure out, oops, that wasn't a great idea.
23:04
Because the alternative, which is a republic and
23:08
freedom, like the United States originally was, is
23:12
not comfortable.
23:14
It's a little scary.
23:15
You know, you might have to get your
23:18
hands dirty to make, keep things the way
23:21
you want it to be.
23:22
So I think that it's almost human nature,
23:24
like, well, you know, but I just want
23:26
someone to take care of me.
23:27
And the more that is allowed to happen,
23:29
the more people feel comfortable with it until,
23:33
you know, you realize you've built a prison
23:34
up around you and you can't really get
23:36
out of it.
23:36
So, yes, it is Marxist.
23:39
Marxist is probably the best description because it's
23:42
cultural Marxism.
23:43
We went through that, man.
23:44
We were talking about that in 2009, even
23:48
when Obama came in.
23:49
It's all cultural Marxism.
23:50
And, you know, that is now completely a
23:54
thing.
23:55
And ultimately the systems.
23:58
And just look at our own political, our
24:01
own representatives, like California.
24:03
I think California is like, hey, man, just
24:05
take care of me so I can hang
24:06
out, bro.
24:09
Isn't that just human nature?
24:11
And that was one of the great things
24:13
about America is we said, no, we're going
24:15
to govern ourselves and you can have a
24:18
republic if you can keep it because it's
24:20
hard.
24:24
And then when you have the Marxist socialist
24:27
government and system, well, that, you know, that's
24:32
great because the people who are chosen as
24:35
so-called leaders and representatives, they love it
24:38
because it's never a problem for them.
24:40
They make sure that they get their salary
24:43
and they've got their health care and they've
24:44
got their cars and they're taking care of.
24:47
Well, this is well and good, but let's
24:48
go back to the original question, which is
24:51
this is coordinated.
24:53
You don't have drag queen story hour in
24:57
Sweden and the UK and the United States
25:00
out of the blue.
25:01
You don't have the same exact formula for
25:04
the immigrants come in, they get a credit
25:06
card, they get a cell phone, and they
25:09
get this, they get that, they get free
25:10
housing, like in New York is a classic
25:13
example at the Roosevelt.
25:14
Somebody, there is a group that's identifiable.
25:20
I can't identify them.
25:21
I'm just saying they have to be identifiable
25:24
that is behind the whole thing somehow has
25:27
managed to pull this off.
25:28
And I think it's it's obligatory for us
25:31
to figure out who these people are and
25:33
name them.
25:34
OK, well, I hate to say it because
25:36
you're not going to like my answer.
25:38
But this is the true enemy of the
25:41
people in this world is Satan.
25:44
And we have a lot of Satanists running
25:47
the show, running around, doing all kinds of
25:49
satanic things.
25:50
Well, I'll get I'll let that slide as
25:54
as a distinct possibility.
25:56
But there's still actual people.
25:59
Yes, that need to be called out, named,
26:03
pointed out and strung up literally.
26:06
OK, well, we got that far.
26:09
Well, just let's just name one.
26:11
Let's start with the low hanging fruit.
26:13
Macron, Starmer, Queen Ursula, Peepers.
26:20
Go with those people.
26:22
In fact, I have a clip here which
26:25
kind of brings this all together because it's
26:30
it's A.I. But it was so it
26:32
was so funny and so true at the
26:34
same time.
26:35
This is President Trump.
26:39
Oh, this is a good one.
26:40
Yeah, this you've heard of the car.
26:42
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:43
Exactly.
26:44
So President Trump is doing a kind of
26:47
like an E!
26:48
Entertainment Channel red carpet voiceover.
26:52
Not President Trump.
26:53
Not President Trump, but President Trump, A.I.
26:56
version is doing a red carpet voiceover of
27:00
the arrival of the European Union leaders to
27:03
the White House for the summit.
27:05
OK, let's see who arrives now.
27:06
This guy, they say, is the president of
27:09
Finland, looking like the captain of a cruise
27:12
ship.
27:12
We need to get him a captain's hat
27:13
later on.
27:15
OK, who the fuck is this guy?
27:17
These Europeans all look like accountants.
27:20
Yes, sir.
27:21
I come to New York, Texas.
27:23
OK, thank you, sir.
27:25
Ah, the British prime minister.
27:26
They say this guy is gay.
27:28
I don't know if that's true or not.
27:30
I just think he's a dork.
27:31
Hey, this guy is definitely gay.
27:35
And his wife is a man.
27:36
And she beats him.
27:37
Mm, well, poor guy.
27:40
Ah, Georgia Maloney.
27:42
I love her.
27:44
I told her and Ilan that if they
27:46
ever have a kid, they better name him
27:48
Ilone Maloney.
27:50
Ursula, I like that she calls me daddy.
27:53
They all should when you think about it.
27:56
Good day.
27:57
I come to see my American daddy.
28:00
Yes.
28:01
Thank you very much.
28:02
There's always truth in humor.
28:04
You know, it's true that accountants, cruise ship
28:08
captains, losers, weirdos.
28:13
You know, how did they get there?
28:18
That can only— Yeah, that is actually the
28:20
question of the day.
28:21
That can only be— How did they get
28:23
there?
28:24
Corruption in voting.
28:25
I think that the fix has been in
28:27
so long on that.
28:28
Everywhere.
28:30
They figured that out a long time ago.
28:32
And you know what?
28:33
The people deserve it.
28:35
We deserve what we got, too.
28:36
And now we have President Trump.
28:37
And now it's even hard for him to
28:39
hold on to anyone supporting him.
28:41
Because, you know, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.
28:46
Yeah, so that is a question I fear,
28:49
unfortunately, will have to remain unanswered.
28:53
Satan!
28:54
Yes, that's my answer.
28:56
That is the enemy of the world.
28:58
Yeah, well, that's a nice answer.
28:58
It doesn't help.
29:00
I'll tell you this.
29:01
It does if we all start to pray.
29:03
It's not a helpful answer, no.
29:06
Not for a lapsed Catholic, no.
29:08
But it's okay.
29:08
I pray for you, too.
29:10
You can pray all you want.
29:11
It's not a good answer.
29:12
It doesn't solve anything.
29:14
Oh, okay, well, say, what are you going
29:15
to do?
29:18
It doesn't solve anything.
29:20
That's the problem I have with it.
29:21
The United States of America has a chance
29:23
of getting out of some of this nonsense
29:25
unscathed.
29:26
We really do.
29:27
That's particularly— Yeah, well, tell that to the
29:29
Roosevelt Hotel.
29:31
I'm telling it to— Tell that to all
29:33
the 20 million.
29:34
All it took was one guy.
29:36
Biden comes in.
29:37
It doesn't know what he's doing.
29:38
Yes, it only takes one generation to ruin
29:41
it.
29:41
It takes one guy.
29:41
Yes, that's right.
29:42
One guy, four years.
29:44
Well, you got to add Obama to it.
29:46
Obama was a big part of it.
29:49
He was a big part of it.
29:50
It took a generation.
29:52
The millennials weren't paying attention.
29:54
Can't blame them.
29:56
They were psyoped into believing— No, they're total
29:59
stooges.
30:00
They were psyoped.
30:01
They were psyoped into believing that you need
30:03
a college education in gender studies, and then
30:06
you'll come out and you'll make $150,000
30:08
a year, learn to code, and meanwhile, butt
30:10
-cracked plumbers can do $1.50. Come on!
30:14
Learn to code.
30:15
It was a psyop.
30:16
My favorite.
30:17
It was a psyop.
30:18
Yeah, we fired all the entire pipeline operations.
30:24
Shuttered.
30:24
You guys should just learn— You pipeline workers
30:26
should just learn to code.
30:28
Do we have any— Oh, here's Joe Biden.
30:32
I come from a family in an area
30:35
where there's coal mining in Scranton.
30:38
Anybody who can go down 300 to 3
30:40
,000 feet in the mine sure as hell
30:42
can learn how to program as well.
30:48
Hey, man, you can learn how to program.
30:50
You can learn how to program.
30:52
And if you can go down a mine,
30:53
you can learn how to program.
30:54
Guy can't even program his phone.
31:00
Well, let's get into this summit meeting for
31:02
a moment because there are a couple of
31:04
things.
31:04
I'll just set it up with unbelievably, unbelievably—
31:09
and I'm sure you have clips of this,
31:11
right?
31:11
You've got an analysis.
31:12
Yes, you do.
31:14
Bolton, fart-sniffing Bolton.
31:17
By the way, my analysis is so off
31:19
the wall that you blow out everything you
31:22
can before we play it.
31:24
Oh, okay.
31:24
So Bolton, fart-sniffing Bolton.
31:27
I'm not saying that flippantly.
31:28
Wasn't he in a club where they sniffed
31:30
each other's farts in New York?
31:31
Or was that just a— Hey, this is—what?
31:35
Yes, yes.
31:37
I'm sure of it.
31:39
Ah.
31:40
Yes.
31:40
I mean, I'd like to—that's funny.
31:42
We talked about it on the show.
31:45
No.
31:46
Yeah, hold on a second.
31:47
Okay, go ahead.
31:48
Do your lookup and see if you can
31:50
find it.
31:50
Okay.
31:51
Well, I have—here it is.
31:54
National security.
31:55
Longest— National security.
31:57
There we go.
31:57
Longest-serving national security advisor.
32:00
The question is, who was that?
32:01
Yeah.
32:04
Who's she going to bring on the show
32:05
is the point.
32:06
Oh.
32:06
Who is she to back up all these
32:09
claims of hers?
32:09
And the fact that Tulsi's a horrible person,
32:11
who's she going to bring on?
32:12
The fart-sniffer.
32:13
What's his name?
32:15
The mustache man.
32:17
Boom.
32:18
What's his name?
32:19
Fart-sniffer.
32:20
You just called him his fart-sniffer.
32:22
Well, listen, listen, listen, so we understand.
32:25
There—there was a story that we've discussed that
32:28
he would go to some club in New
32:30
York where they would sniff each other's farts.
32:31
Am I— No.
32:32
Yes.
32:34
Yes.
32:34
I'm going to— I like the idea.
32:35
It's funny.
32:36
But the fact that you're defending it, you
32:39
imagine that it's true, is kind of disconcerting.
32:44
Ah.
32:45
It was— Like, there's this opening of the
32:53
show.
32:53
Yes, there was a weird, perverted club in
32:55
New York.
32:56
Ah, there you go.
32:57
I'll save that one.
32:58
Ah, I've got it, Watson.
33:01
Uh, Tennessee Williams was a part of this
33:05
club.
33:07
No.
33:08
Okay, no.
33:09
Tennessee Williams was part of a necrophiliac club.
33:13
Well, that's even worse than fart-sniffing, I'd
33:16
say.
33:17
Anyway, we don't have to belabor the point
33:20
of what Bolton does in his spare time.
33:23
But he did do something interesting in— Well,
33:26
he looks like a guy who sniffs— Precisely.
33:29
It's so— That's the reason that the joke
33:31
is funny.
33:32
It's so obvious.
33:33
But to believe it to be true is,
33:34
like, over the top.
33:36
You know what?
33:37
I'm just making it true.
33:38
Should we ask Error?
33:39
I mean, we can do that.
33:41
Yeah.
33:41
There you go.
33:42
Ask our buddy Error.
33:43
Okay.
33:44
Hey, Error, is it true that John Bolton
33:47
belonged to a club where people sniffed each
33:49
other's farts?
33:54
Oh, two, three.
33:56
Oh, she's digging.
33:57
A rumor that seems to have popped up
33:58
from nowhere.
33:59
There's no evidence or credible reports of John
34:02
Bolton being involved in anything like that.
34:03
Ah, you suck.
34:04
See, AI is wrong again.
34:06
Uh-huh.
34:06
Again.
34:06
She took her— She actually did some digging
34:09
that way.
34:10
No, no, I had the channel closed.
34:11
I didn't have her— I didn't have her
34:14
open.
34:15
Her mic was not open.
34:17
Uh-huh.
34:17
Anyway.
34:18
So here's Bolton, and he does something interesting
34:21
for the first time that I can recall
34:23
in an interview, and this is NPR.
34:25
Putin's pretext for the full-scale invasion of
34:27
Ukraine was the possibility of Ukraine's NATO membership.
34:31
NATO membership is a security guarantee.
34:33
So given that, what indication is there that
34:35
any security guarantee—is there any security guarantee that
34:39
President Putin would accept?
34:41
Well, there's a lot of loose talk in
34:43
the West about security guarantees, and many observers
34:46
have pointed out we gave Ukraine security guarantees
34:48
with the Budapest Memorandum in 1994.
34:51
That didn't deter Russia then.
34:53
People throw around this talk of an Article
34:57
5-like provision.
34:59
You know, Article 5 in the Treaty of
35:02
Washington that created NATO is famous for the
35:06
line that an attack on one will be
35:08
deemed an attack on all.
35:09
And nobody forgets the line—nobody remembers the line
35:12
a little bit further down in Article 5
35:14
that says that each party will—and I'm quoting
35:17
now—take such action as it deems necessary.
35:22
I looked it up.
35:23
That's true.
35:24
We all have taken Article 5 at face
35:27
value for the first line, not for the
35:29
rest, which is, yeah, you know, but we
35:33
got your back if we feel like it.
35:37
Did you know this?
35:39
Yeah.
35:39
I didn't know this.
35:40
I didn't know that it was still optional.
35:42
I thought it was, oh, yeah, you know.
35:44
Well, otherwise, every time a missile accidentally—in fact,
35:48
the latest thing—I don't know if you have
35:49
a clip of it—of the rocket that hit,
35:54
or I guess it was a drone that
35:55
landed in Poland in a cornfield.
35:58
Yeah, but that was— And it was all,
36:00
you know, running with their hair on fire
36:02
over that.
36:03
Yeah, I think that was— Could have triggered
36:04
the whole thing, you know, if it was—
36:06
It could have, but it didn't.
36:08
But it's not going to happen.
36:09
No, that's not—we're not going to have nuclear
36:11
war.
36:11
We're not going to have any of that.
36:12
But as Queen Ursula let out on the
36:16
last episode when she was doing her little
36:18
love fest with Zelensky in Brussels, it's going
36:22
to be the Europeans.
36:23
Now, the question is, what exactly does that
36:27
mean?
36:27
And I think what they all want is
36:31
they want hundreds of thousands of European Union
36:35
troops to be in Ukraine, not on the
36:38
border.
36:38
We'll have a demilitarized zone.
36:41
And the reason for that is they want
36:44
to keep their war economy going.
36:46
And we're going to be perfectly fine with
36:47
that because we're going to be selling them
36:49
all the dumb stuff they're going to be
36:50
using for nothing.
36:52
That makes nothing but sense.
36:54
And then with the promise of EU ascension,
36:57
and we'll have to roust up some corruption,
37:02
which, okay, we'll see.
37:08
Anyway, let's—since you've got an off-the-wall
37:10
analysis, I'll give the—I'll have our buddy Andrew
37:14
Rasoulis with his— Oh, there he is.
37:17
That's the— This is the guy.
37:19
Your buddy.
37:20
This is the guy.
37:21
This is your go-to guy.
37:22
This is my guy.
37:22
People don't notice.
37:24
You're going to be hearing a lot from
37:25
this guy for the next six months.
37:27
That's because we like him.
37:28
We think that he's a former War Department
37:31
guy in Canada, and he knows what he's
37:33
talking about.
37:34
And he has a pretty clear view of
37:36
things, and it seems straight up.
37:38
Good to see you on these key days.
37:40
And this is one, certainly.
37:42
Some of the true social posts I was
37:44
just mentioning, I wouldn't mind beginning there because
37:46
they're the latest we've heard from U.S.
37:48
President Trump.
37:49
Let's look at this.
37:50
The one line he's written, President Zelensky can
37:53
end the war with Russia almost immediately if
37:56
he wants to.
37:57
He seems to be putting the onus entirely
37:59
on Zelensky here, Andrew.
38:01
What is he seeking to accomplish with this
38:04
messaging?
38:04
Well, I think the messaging is that basically
38:07
the overall parameters of a deal are coming
38:12
together.
38:12
Now, that is from Trump's perspective, but he's
38:15
basically saying there's a deal to be made
38:17
here.
38:18
There's going to be concessions on territory, in
38:21
fact, reflections of reality since Ukrainians were not
38:23
going to militarily retake their lost territories.
38:27
And the key thing, your quote from Vitkov
38:29
about the Russians making, for the first time,
38:33
a concession on security guarantees, legal security guarantees
38:37
for Ukraine.
38:38
That's a new one.
38:39
So I think from Trump's point of view,
38:40
he's saying there's the deal.
38:41
You've got it.
38:42
Yeah, there is the deal.
38:43
And the deal includes Crimea and whatever security
38:47
guarantees you want, it will not be NATO.
38:50
OK, well, hold on for a second.
38:51
We'll come back to security guarantees because this
38:53
Truth Social post continues that there will be
38:55
no.
38:56
I just love how that anything on the
38:59
Internet, Truth Social, X, what?
39:01
Because if Zelensky's not posted, that'd be funny
39:03
if Zelensky posted on Truth Social.
39:05
That'd be cool.
39:06
But instead he does it on X.
39:09
So this is now how the news operates.
39:11
And President Trump's very smart with this.
39:13
I'll give you my statement.
39:14
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
39:16
Truth Social post continues that there will be
39:18
no getting back Crimea and in all caps,
39:21
no going into NATO by Ukraine.
39:24
And again, for Ukraine, deciding its future is
39:27
so.
39:28
All caps, it's obvious, no NATO.
39:32
You know, it's so essential to all of
39:34
its demands.
39:35
So again, what do you make of that
39:37
part of Trump's latest social media posting?
39:39
I think it's a reality check here for
39:41
the Ukrainians, because the war started.
39:45
The Russians attacked Ukraine over the issue of
39:47
NATO enlargement.
39:49
Up until right now, the Russian position has
39:52
been that the war will only end when
39:54
Ukraine becomes a neutral country that is completely
39:58
not militarily connected to the West, whether politically
40:02
or militarily.
40:03
Now, the concession, apparently that it covers a
40:07
of a legal guarantee, bilateral, not NATO, but
40:10
NATO style legal guarantee.
40:12
That is a Russian change.
40:14
They're actually saying Ukraine, what's left of it,
40:16
can actually have a legal security guarantee with
40:19
the West, including the United States.
40:22
That's a fundamental shift, actually.
40:24
That is big.
40:25
And that is that's a huge concession.
40:28
And I think that's why President Trump is
40:29
like, well, we got a deal here.
40:31
It can't be NATO.
40:33
And by the way, just to recall, was
40:37
it not Vice President Kamala Harris who went
40:40
to the Munich Security Conference and started all
40:43
this by talking about, yeah, NATO, we should
40:45
put some nukes in Ukraine?
40:47
Wasn't that her?
40:50
I don't remember her saying putting nukes in
40:52
Ukraine.
40:53
No, but I think Zelensky came right out
40:57
of them.
40:57
If I recall, I think Zelensky came right
40:59
out of the Munich conference and said, well,
41:01
yeah, we should have nukes here.
41:02
But she was saying NATO.
41:04
Well, he's always talking about nukes.
41:07
Of course, that's what he does.
41:10
All right.
41:11
Question here, what he thought of the EU
41:14
leaders.
41:15
I think Maloney is really interesting to watch
41:18
here because we've already seen a quote from
41:20
her saying that in terms of these security
41:23
guarantees, she's disagreeing with the French President Macron,
41:27
who's constantly talking about bringing French forces, at
41:32
least, or coalition of the willing forces into
41:34
Ukraine after a ceasefire.
41:36
Maloney's saying no.
41:37
The Italians are really not opposed to that
41:40
because they're saying there's X amount of Italians
41:43
and there's Y amount of Russians.
41:44
There's a whole bunch more Russians.
41:46
So she doesn't want to get involved in
41:48
a potential war with Russia over Ukraine.
41:51
So security guarantee is one thing, but boots
41:53
on the ground in Ukraine is another thing.
41:55
So Maloney is very interesting that way.
41:58
I think from Starmer and Macron and Mertz,
42:01
we're going to get the typical, yeah, we're
42:02
going to boots on the ground.
42:04
You know, Russia can't make a step forward.
42:06
The hard line.
42:07
But Maloney is actually the different one here.
42:10
Let's listen just for a second so we
42:11
can see if we can recall it from
42:13
this clip from MSNBC about Kamala at the
42:16
Munich Security Conference.
42:18
Lindsay, this speech was real.
42:20
This was the single most significant speech by
42:23
an American leader in the global forum calling
42:27
out Russian aggression and calling out Russia for
42:30
disinformation since 1962, since the Cuban Missile Crisis
42:35
by Adlai Stevenson.
42:36
What we're watching right now with Vice President
42:38
Harris is an American leader essentially telling the
42:41
world we are almost on the brink of
42:44
war and we have to stop that clip.
42:49
What is he talking about in 1962, Adlai
42:52
Stevenson?
42:53
I don't know.
42:55
It's Kennedy.
42:57
Okay.
42:58
Adlai Stevenson had nothing to do with the
43:01
Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962.
43:04
He was a twice failed presidential candidate in
43:07
52, 52.
43:09
I'm sorry, 62 is when the Missile Crisis
43:12
took place.
43:12
52 is when he ran.
43:14
He ran again four years later in 56.
43:17
Lost both times.
43:19
When the last time the same guy ran
43:21
twice, he had nothing to do with anything
43:24
after that.
43:25
He was an Illinois governor.
43:27
I mean, it was like, what are they
43:29
talking about Adlai Stevenson?
43:31
What kind of a report is this?
43:33
What's from MSNBC?
43:34
The more you know in the morning.
43:37
Thank you for correcting MSNBC.
43:41
Surprising that they had something wrong.
43:43
I'm just trying to see if he mentions
43:44
what Harris said.
43:46
Since the Cuban Missile Crisis by Adlai Stevenson.
43:50
What we're watching right now with Vice President
43:52
Harris is an American leader essentially telling the
43:55
world we are almost on the brink of
43:58
war and we have to resist it because
44:00
it will destabilize our entire way of life.
44:03
And that is a powerful message.
44:06
This is not a normal speech.
44:07
This is a serious moment for the United
44:10
States and for Europe.
44:11
So Joel, who's that message for?
44:13
Who is Vice President Harris talking to?
44:14
Is she talking to world leaders, the American
44:17
people, Putin himself?
44:18
Putin.
44:19
First and foremost, she's speaking directly at that
44:21
conference to the allies who are looking to
44:23
her and to the United States for leadership
44:26
at this moment.
44:27
And she's saying, we have delivered.
44:28
We are with you.
44:29
We are unified.
44:30
And that is not always the message.
44:32
And she hinted at this, that the United
44:33
States has been giving certainly during President Trump.
44:36
She's also making it clear to Vladimir Putin.
44:39
And look at this juxtaposition really of the
44:42
entire world, the United States.
44:44
I don't know.
44:45
I'll look it up for Sunday show.
44:49
Well, you're not going to find it.
44:51
OK.
44:52
You doubting Thomas?
44:54
You know, she's not going to you're not
44:55
going to find it because she never did.
44:56
We can't do that.
44:57
We can't even suggest such a thing.
45:00
And if she did, she's an OK, I'm
45:03
going to go out on a limb here.
45:05
If she did, she's an idiot.
45:11
Let's play the Poland stuff for a second,
45:13
just as a break.
45:14
OK, the Texas war, hot Poland.
45:18
OK, Texas.
45:20
I'm sorry.
45:21
I said Texas because I got a Texas
45:24
clip.
45:24
I went back to Russia.
45:26
Texas.
45:27
You put me in the same category as
45:30
Camilla.
45:31
Russia, war, hot, hot Poland.
45:35
At least 14 people are reported injured in
45:38
an overnight Russian attack on Ukraine's Sumy region.
45:42
This includes a family with three children.
45:44
Five months, four years and six years old.
45:47
That's according to Ukrainian officials who say Russia
45:50
launched 15 drones in the attack on the
45:53
Sumy region in the early hours of Wednesday.
45:56
Meanwhile, in Ukraine's Odessa region, firefighters were dealing
46:00
with the aftermath of another reported Russian drone
46:03
strike.
46:03
Ukrainian officials called it a massive drone strike,
46:07
saying it injured one person and caused a
46:09
large fire.
46:10
Over 50 emergency workers battled the flames.
46:14
And in neighboring Poland on Wednesday, a military
46:17
drone fell and exploded in a cornfield in
46:20
the NATO member country.
46:22
Polish officials say it may have been a
46:24
Russian version of an Iranian drone.
46:28
Once again, we are dealing with a provocation
46:30
by the Russian Federation with a Russian drone.
46:34
We are dealing with it in a crucial
46:36
moment when discussions about peace are underway.
46:40
Residents in the area where the drone made
46:42
impact recount the moment of the explosion.
46:46
You're sitting there doing something on your computer.
46:49
Your wife's practically asleep.
46:51
And then boom, the entire house shakes.
46:54
An attack on Poland would mean an attack
46:56
on NATO, which could have serious consequences.
46:59
Poland also directly borders Germany, which has the
47:02
highest GDP and is one of the most
47:04
influential countries in Europe.
47:06
Poland's defense minister says Russia's goal is to
47:09
provoke Western allies.
47:12
OK.
47:14
Yeah, that drone went off, killed her and
47:18
landed in a cornfield.
47:19
It's also somewhat dubious because they determined that
47:24
it was Russian from some fragments.
47:26
And it's also exactly the kind of materiel
47:30
that has been used in Ukraine.
47:35
Yeah, I'm sure it's completely dubious.
47:37
By the way, he did mention Germany and
47:39
in there.
47:40
And did you notice Maloney sitting between Trump
47:43
and Mr. Peepers?
47:45
Oh, yeah.
47:46
Rolling her eyes and just going, you know,
47:48
she did everything short of stinging, sticking her
47:51
finger in her mouth and making a puke
47:54
sound.
47:55
According to the Polish army, no airspace violations
47:58
were detected from Ukraine or Belarus.
48:01
Police discovered charred metal and plastic fragments scattered
48:05
across the cornfield.
48:07
According to newspaper Respospolita, the wreckage may be
48:11
from a Russian Shahed 131-36 Kamikaze drone,
48:16
the type commonly used in Ukraine.
48:19
So, you know, not necessarily enough evidence to
48:23
get NATO to invoke Article 5.
48:26
We're not going to invoke Article 5 on
48:28
a cornfield attack.
48:30
Cornfield, they're hurting our cornfields now.
48:33
Here's a part two.
48:34
At a time when President Trump is doing
48:37
everything to bring about this piece, and Ukraine
48:40
is open to concluding this piece, the provocative
48:43
strategy and hybrid war continue.
48:46
So far, Russia hasn't commented on whether Poland
48:49
was the intended target.
48:55
Really?
48:56
Like they're going to comment, hey, you were
48:58
targeting that cornfield.
49:00
Come on, be honest.
49:02
So while the first clip was playing, I
49:04
read through the transcript of what Vice President
49:07
Harris said, and she did not say specifically
49:12
NATO is going to defend Ukraine.
49:14
But it was so implied.
49:16
So but it was enough.
49:18
It was enough at the time.
49:19
Putin said that, you know, hey, it's because
49:21
of your stance that we that we did
49:23
this because you were starting to rattle the
49:25
sword.
49:25
She's just as responsible as anyone.
49:28
Yes, this is this is what I wanted
49:30
to point out.
49:31
Well, you got that part right.
49:33
Her fault.
49:33
It's all her fault.
49:34
Well, she didn't do anything to to stand
49:38
it off, stand it down.
49:39
That's for sure.
49:40
Yeah.
49:41
Let's listen to well, I have I have
49:45
NPR morning edition report of the coalition of
49:48
the morning edition is getting worse.
49:51
Well, that's what we have from Brussels.
49:53
Terry Schultz joins us now to talk about
49:54
the challenges Europe faces with so many factors
49:56
still dependent on Washington.
49:58
So, Terry, how have European leaders been digesting
50:01
the events from DC?
50:03
Well, quickly is the best way I can
50:05
describe it.
50:06
It was less than 24 hours after those
50:09
meetings at the White House that the EU
50:11
leaders who'd been present there were back here
50:13
in virtual sessions debriefing their counterparts.
50:16
And that urgency just goes to show how
50:18
high stakes the situation.
50:20
Stop clip.
50:22
They're the leaders, right?
50:24
They are the leaders.
50:25
Yes.
50:26
Who are their counterparts, then?
50:30
Who would be a counterpart?
50:32
No, that's if you're the if you're the
50:34
president.
50:35
Yeah.
50:35
Do you have a counterpart, another another guy
50:38
above you or even to you?
50:41
I mean, there's 27 member states.
50:42
So maybe the other the other like the
50:45
polls and the Hungarians.
50:48
I'll let it slide a couple of times.
50:50
And that urgency just goes to show how
50:52
high stakes the situation is for Europe.
50:54
They had both a meeting of this coalition
50:57
of the willing that some 30 countries which
50:59
have expressed their readiness to physically help support
51:01
a ceasefire in Ukraine.
51:02
And they had one with just the 27
51:04
EU member countries.
51:06
President Trump has made it pretty clear that
51:07
he wants Europe to take the lead on
51:09
Ukrainian security.
51:10
That's that's our understanding, right?
51:12
That's right.
51:12
And more or less already decided that themselves
51:15
before Trump became more supportive of Ukraine.
51:17
But now the president has confirmed it many
51:19
times over.
51:20
And the good news for the Europeans is
51:22
that Trump is now pledging for the first
51:24
time to help with the security guarantees for
51:26
Ukraine.
51:27
Chairing the meeting of EU leaders, European Council
51:29
President Antonio Costa said Europe is actually now
51:32
working hand in hand with the US.
51:34
Their commitment to participate in the security guarantees
51:38
with the Europeans and other like minded countries
51:41
is a very important step, a very welcome
51:45
step.
51:46
Now, Costa says there's still a difficult road
51:48
ahead, but Europeans are feeling reassured by the
51:50
new US support.
51:51
Of course, we don't really know what it
51:53
means.
51:54
Is it boots in the air?
51:55
Is it and we'll do some flybys, you
51:59
know, maybe we'll drop some supplies.
52:01
It's very it's not clear what we'll get,
52:03
what we're going to do.
52:04
I predict we'll be doing very little other
52:06
than dropping off the orders.
52:09
What did you order?
52:10
He ordered some tanks.
52:12
Here they are.
52:12
What do you got?
52:13
Do you want fries with that?
52:14
We're flying them in.
52:15
How might this look, though, practically?
52:17
I mean, this coalition has been meeting for
52:18
months without the participation of the US.
52:20
Well, and also without even a basic outline
52:23
of what a final peace deal might look
52:25
like between Russia and Ukraine.
52:26
So what would be the rules and protections
52:28
and obligations of such a mission on the
52:30
ground?
52:31
In addition, it's been hamstrung since it was
52:33
created by the US lack of support earlier,
52:36
which is really critical, both in terms of
52:38
capabilities such as intelligence sharing and surveillance where
52:41
the US is dominant, but also the deterrent
52:44
factor, sort of the stick that you have
52:46
with an agreement backed by the US, especially
52:48
in the eyes of the Kremlin.
52:49
So now discussions will take a new, more
52:51
optimistic shape.
52:53
Now, President Trump says no US troops would
52:55
join this mission.
52:56
So how willing are Europeans to send their
52:58
people into Ukraine?
53:00
Well, that's a huge unanswered question because it's
53:02
not clear whether this mission would be to
53:04
sort of monitor a ceasefire or reinforce it
53:07
or defend certain lines.
53:09
And those verbs all mean very different things,
53:11
carrying different levels of danger for those deployed
53:14
in general.
53:14
European countries are going to have to send
53:16
forces.
53:17
And it seems about 10 have committed to
53:18
doing that so far.
53:19
But some options are much less palatable than
53:21
others.
53:22
And if this is a small force that's
53:24
just there to deter Russia reattacking Ukraine, this
53:27
is sometimes described as a tripwire force.
53:29
What happens if it is attacked?
53:31
We don't have any answers yet.
53:32
Or are we going to need to see
53:33
hundreds of thousands of European military personnel armed
53:37
to fight back?
53:38
Yes, I think that's pretty unlikely.
53:39
No, I think it's very likely.
53:41
And they have to.
53:42
There is a very high unemployment level in
53:46
the European Union.
53:48
People have no work.
53:49
There's only one thing left to do.
53:53
What's the constriction?
53:54
No, constriction.
53:56
Constriction.
53:58
Conscription.
53:59
I like constriction is the same thing.
54:02
Conscription.
54:03
Thank you.
54:04
Yeah, it has to be a military draft.
54:06
They're already talking about it in Germany and
54:08
nobody wants it.
54:09
The German youth do not want to fight
54:12
for Germany or anybody else for that matter.
54:15
It's something like they did a survey.
54:17
So it's like only 20, maybe 30%
54:20
the most would take up arms for Germany.
54:23
So that's how much they hate their own
54:25
country.
54:26
30% will go into the military.
54:30
And 20% will be, well, no, actually
54:33
more than that.
54:34
It'll be 50% women who probably won't
54:36
have to go.
54:37
And the 20% of men who don't
54:39
want to go, they're going to be doing
54:40
podcasts.
54:41
I mean, there's nothing else for them to
54:43
do.
54:44
There's nothing else.
54:46
And that's what you need.
54:47
It's like, hey, do you want to have
54:48
a good pay?
54:49
Go into the Luftwaffe and get in there.
54:54
And it's going to be every single country.
54:56
And it'll be a pretty good gig because
54:59
nothing's going to happen other than some fear
55:02
mongering.
55:03
I think Russia likes it.
55:04
We're probably going to do some great business
55:06
with Russia.
55:08
That's what I think is happening here.
55:09
President Trump, President Putin, like, OK, or whoever
55:12
that is.
55:13
Because man, that guy, the pictures of Putin,
55:18
it just doesn't look like Putin anymore.
55:21
And by the way, somebody pointed out something
55:23
because we have a fake.
55:26
First of all, a little backstory.
55:28
Mimi's working with a guy in Los Angeles
55:30
to produce a book, a memoirs of this
55:34
guy's doing.
55:34
I'm not going to say who.
55:35
Oh, another book.
55:36
Is this?
55:37
Well, we got a bunch of Gateway Publishing.
55:42
I'm sorry.
55:44
It's a marketing, marketing.
55:46
Yeah, it was a gate view.
55:48
I'll never forget.
55:49
No.
55:49
One of his best friends was Kennedy's double.
55:55
Wow.
55:57
And he was so apparently was incredibly depressed
56:01
when Kennedy was assassinated.
56:04
Yeah, he lost his gig.
56:05
He lost his gig.
56:06
So some one of our producers pointed out
56:09
in an email this morning saying that the
56:11
fake Trump is up and around because the
56:15
fake Trump has it has a tell.
56:18
Yeah, I'm a little dubious about this, but
56:20
I'm just like it.
56:22
I'm not just going to say it.
56:24
People can figure it out for themselves.
56:26
I'm dubious about all the fakes, by the
56:28
way, except for that Hillary, that one with
56:30
the person on the wrong side, short squat
56:32
woman.
56:32
Daddy long legs Biden.
56:34
Come on.
56:34
Oh, and the double Biden.
56:35
Yeah, but at least three bites.
56:37
So that's two out of four now.
56:39
Okay.
56:39
Okay, well, half of them might as well
56:42
just go all the way.
56:43
They're all fakes.
56:43
Yeah.
56:44
Oh, buddy.
56:44
So this Trump says that when he's talking
56:49
in third person, he says the Trump administration,
56:51
he refers to the Trump administration when the
56:54
real Trump always says my administration.
56:58
Yeah, but that's speech written.
57:01
Well, maybe not that.
57:03
Well, it's something to look out for.
57:04
I just say it was an interesting tell.
57:06
If true, it's possible now because, you know,
57:09
Dick Gregory had this back in 2015, 2016
57:12
before he died.
57:13
Oh, yeah.
57:13
He talked about this thesis that there were
57:15
two Trumps and one of them, he says
57:17
the real one always wore the red tie
57:19
and the fake one wore a blue tie.
57:21
And that's when Trump only appeared with those
57:23
two ties.
57:24
Now he wears pink.
57:25
He wears yellow.
57:26
He wears all kinds of ties.
57:27
Allow me to play that clip a few
57:30
weeks.
57:31
First, there's two Trumps.
57:33
Okay.
57:33
The one in the red ties, the real
57:35
one, the one in the blue ties, not
57:37
the one you saw last night after the
57:40
victory was the blue tie.
57:42
Now, if you would punch up.
57:45
Dr. Carson, Ben Carson, when Trump called him
57:50
a pedophile, and the next day he joined
57:54
Trump and the guy asked him, see every
57:57
now and then you slip and say, he
57:58
said, why'd you do that?
58:00
He says, it's two Trumps.
58:02
I was with the good one.
58:05
You see it there.
58:07
Just, just punch up when, when somebody interviewed
58:12
him, he said this to Donald Trump says
58:15
that's easy to pull up.
58:17
You know, there's, I forgot about the Ben
58:20
Carson anecdote.
58:21
Yes, there's a, there's a different theory, which
58:24
I quite like.
58:25
And the only reason I bring it up
58:27
is because this clip kind of, by the
58:29
way, we're the only podcast and the best
58:31
in the universe.
58:32
Of course.
58:33
That talks about body doubles when it's a
58:36
known fact that they're used to an extreme.
58:40
The theory goes that the elites have long
58:44
since perfected the art of cloning ever since
58:47
that stupid sheep, Dolly, Dolly the sheep, just
58:50
a stretch.
58:52
Ever since.
58:52
I met that dog.
58:53
I thought it was a sheep.
58:55
Oh, no, I met the first clone dog.
58:58
Yeah.
58:58
And, and what did he say?
59:01
Hi.
59:05
Okay.
59:08
But I'm just saying, cause the theory keeps
59:10
coming back and people email me this very
59:12
seriously.
59:13
So I take these things seriously because they
59:16
clearly believe that it's, if not possible, that
59:18
it's true.
59:19
And that many celebrities already have their clones
59:24
and they, of course they need to shut
59:27
up.
59:27
Otherwise, you know, they'll have to do all
59:28
the work themselves.
59:29
That would suck.
59:30
Heaven forbid.
59:33
And, and, you know, and that the real
59:35
Putin, this is this, this is a story.
59:37
The real Putin, the OG Putin is dead.
59:40
He died because remember he had cancer.
59:42
He had leukemia.
59:44
They kept trying to kill him and train
59:45
wrecks.
59:46
Yeah.
59:46
They kept trying to blow him up.
59:48
So he was dead.
59:48
But luckily, luckily they had the clone and
59:52
president Trump himself in 2022 kind of alluded
59:56
to this.
59:57
Do you respect Putin?
59:59
Well, he's a different person.
1:00:01
I'll tell you something.
1:00:02
I got along with him and look, I
1:00:04
got along with him loving this country and
1:00:06
he loves his country.
1:00:09
Okay.
1:00:09
But he's a different person than he was.
1:00:11
He seems to be different.
1:00:13
He, is he, is he, is he mentally,
1:00:19
it just doesn't seem to be the same
1:00:23
person I was dealing with.
1:00:24
There you go.
1:00:25
There you go.
1:00:27
It was a clone.
1:00:28
Well, that's an interesting clip.
1:00:30
The problem I have with it is why
1:00:33
haven't they, if they can make a clone,
1:00:36
why haven't they perfected it?
1:00:38
I mean, I've heard the reasoning behind it,
1:00:39
that it kind of actually looks like the
1:00:42
person is not a clone.
1:00:43
If he doesn't look like him, if he
1:00:45
doesn't think like him, if he doesn't act
1:00:47
like him, it's not a clone.
1:00:51
It's detectable.
1:00:52
Well, if you're going to, I can see
1:00:55
the, I can see somebody coming up with
1:00:57
reasons.
1:00:58
I mean, for one thing, the developmental aspects
1:01:01
of a person, you, you can develop worry
1:01:05
lines and using aging, just normal process of
1:01:09
getting older and older.
1:01:11
You, you know, you might get a bad
1:01:13
habit that creates a line in your face
1:01:16
or you ate too much and you're getting
1:01:19
a chubby face.
1:01:20
I mean, there's all these variables that you,
1:01:21
you can't control in terms of making a
1:01:24
copy.
1:01:25
So you might have what somebody should ideally
1:01:28
look like.
1:01:29
Genetically, they'd look like this if they hadn't,
1:01:31
you know, chubbed out when they were in
1:01:33
their thirties and then lost a lot of
1:01:35
weight.
1:01:36
Congratulations.
1:01:38
You have nailed the theory of clone difference
1:01:41
to the T.
1:01:42
It's exactly right.
1:01:43
Because even though you can make the clone
1:01:46
and you can't control what the clone eats
1:01:49
and, and the different environment they live in
1:01:52
versus their original DNA donor.
1:01:56
That is exactly the theory.
1:01:57
That's how it goes.
1:01:58
And who knows if that phone call was
1:02:01
the real Trump?
1:02:01
We don't know anything.
1:02:02
Breaking news.
1:02:03
Nobody knows anything.
1:02:05
I don't even know if that's a basic
1:02:07
thesis of the show.
1:02:08
I don't even know if you're John C.
1:02:09
Dvorak anymore.
1:02:10
I haven't seen you in a couple of
1:02:11
years.
1:02:12
I don't know.
1:02:12
They may have replaced you.
1:02:14
I could be a clone myself.
1:02:15
Well, that's why I'm talking like this.
1:02:18
Well, they nailed it on the attitude.
1:02:20
So good job, science.
1:02:21
That's all it takes.
1:02:22
It's just genetic.
1:02:24
Nothing you can do about it.
1:02:26
Anyway, Reuters went to the much more important
1:02:29
things of the summit meeting.
1:02:32
Obviously, Reuters, they would take the high road.
1:02:34
Another talking point from Monday's White House meeting,
1:02:38
that suit.
1:02:39
President Zelensky, you look fabulous in that suit.
1:02:43
Zelensky's black shirt and blazer combo certainly made
1:02:46
diplomatic waves, as well as keeping Donald Trump
1:02:50
and journalist Brian Glenn happy.
1:02:52
He was the one who called out Zelensky
1:02:54
for his attire in February.
1:02:57
Behind the new look, Ukrainian designer Viktor Anisimov.
1:03:02
He told us he didn't tailor the look
1:03:04
for Trump or anyone else.
1:03:09
He says a leader should look dignified.
1:03:12
And that's it.
1:03:13
And it was all very last minute.
1:03:16
Anisimov saying that he was working on alterations
1:03:19
until just before Zelensky flew out to Washington.
1:03:22
I love that Reuters actually went through the
1:03:24
trouble of trying to find the designer of
1:03:27
the suits.
1:03:28
Well, that's interesting because they tried to at
1:03:30
least Fox tried to promote it as they
1:03:33
bought the suit that day at one of
1:03:35
the clothing stores in New York or in
1:03:39
Washington.
1:03:39
Like H&M off the rack.
1:03:41
That's mean.
1:03:42
That's just Fox.
1:03:43
That's just Fox being Fox.
1:03:46
Yeah.
1:03:48
Yeah, it doesn't take that long.
1:03:51
You know, if you're in Asia for people
1:03:53
out there who if you ever travel to
1:03:55
anyone out there once it goes to Korea,
1:03:57
I'd say even Taiwan to a lesser extent.
1:03:59
But Korea is the main place.
1:04:00
They have the suit makers in in Itaewon
1:04:04
district.
1:04:05
There's a bunch of these clothing places.
1:04:06
I know, John, you used to have your
1:04:07
shirts made.
1:04:08
Tell them about the pocket.
1:04:11
And I would have.
1:04:12
Well, I wasn't going to talk about the
1:04:14
shirt.
1:04:14
You are now.
1:04:15
You are now.
1:04:16
OK, I have I used to have custom
1:04:17
shirts made and I always had a Perry
1:04:19
Ellis pleat put in the shoulders, which was,
1:04:22
you know, and also do any place else.
1:04:24
So what they do in Hong Kong to
1:04:25
what kind of pleat?
1:04:27
It's a pleat that's on the shoulders that
1:04:29
I notice.
1:04:29
And Perry Ellis shirts used to have.
1:04:31
I noticed it on a bartender once and
1:04:33
I asked him because it has a certain
1:04:35
look to it.
1:04:36
It's a beautiful look.
1:04:38
Imperiella is the name of the Perry Ellis.
1:04:40
Oh, Perry Ellis.
1:04:41
Perry Ellis.
1:04:42
The Perry Ellis cleats.
1:04:44
OK, pleat pleats.
1:04:47
OK, Perry.
1:04:48
I'm just trying to get it anyway so
1:04:50
you can have this done.
1:04:51
So I have these shirts made with that
1:04:52
pleat, which is technically illegal.
1:04:55
Yeah, but the.
1:04:57
Because it's copyrighted or something.
1:05:00
But anyway, so I always had my the
1:05:02
shirt pockets were the exact same size as
1:05:04
a CD.
1:05:05
So when you go to a party and
1:05:07
you want to steal somebody's CDs, you could
1:05:10
easily slip them in the shirt pocket.
1:05:12
They go right to the bottom.
1:05:13
Boom.
1:05:13
Don't even know you had them.
1:05:16
How many CDs did you wind up stealing?
1:05:19
I never stole one.
1:05:20
I just just in case.
1:05:22
Just in case you need to need.
1:05:25
If I had to, I had the I
1:05:27
had the I had the means.
1:05:29
Cop a disc.
1:05:32
Yeah.
1:05:32
So there's big pockets.
1:05:34
Pockets are large.
1:05:36
Now, the question is, was it a five
1:05:38
inch floppy?
1:05:39
No, it's a CD with it, with it,
1:05:42
with the CD jewel case.
1:05:44
It had to be.
1:05:44
It was the size of a jewel case
1:05:46
CD.
1:05:48
Hey, man, that guy's got some awesome tunes.
1:05:50
I'm going to steal his CD.
1:05:56
You're a treasure.
1:05:57
Oh, yeah.
1:05:58
And by the way, I would be all
1:05:59
for clones of us taking over the show.
1:06:02
I'm good.
1:06:02
Put me in a tiny home.
1:06:04
Perfect.
1:06:05
Let's go.
1:06:06
With growing doubts about America's willingness to defend
1:06:09
its allies, especially under President Trump, some lawmakers
1:06:13
are now discussing hosting, sharing or even developing
1:06:17
nuclear weapons.
1:06:18
They just threw that in.
1:06:20
Wow.
1:06:21
They just threw that in.
1:06:23
Oh, they're just asking for trouble.
1:06:24
OK, well, now we're ready for my three
1:06:27
clips.
1:06:27
Yeah, yeah.
1:06:28
Well, hold on.
1:06:29
You get any more because you get them
1:06:31
out of the way.
1:06:31
Because this is it'll be done after this.
1:06:33
I know.
1:06:34
Last one from Reuters about the whole security
1:06:36
deal.
1:06:36
President Trump is weighing whether to offer U
1:06:39
.S. air support, potentially including fighter jets.
1:06:43
What is up with this is Reuters.
1:06:44
They're a news agency.
1:06:45
They're kind of dramatizing everything.
1:06:50
President Trump is weighing whether to offer U
1:06:53
.S. air support, potentially including fighter jets to
1:06:58
guarantee Ukraine's security in any future peace deal
1:07:02
with Russia.
1:07:03
Military planners in Washington and Europe are exploring
1:07:06
options for post-conflict security following Trump's meeting
1:07:10
with Ukraine's president and EU leaders, which ended
1:07:14
with plans for direct talks with Russia's Vladimir
1:07:17
Putin.
1:07:17
Steve Holland has more on the U.S.
1:07:20
calculations.
1:07:22
One of the things they're not considering is
1:07:24
putting U.S. troops on the ground.
1:07:27
That idea bubbled up in the last few
1:07:29
days, and President Trump has basically shot that
1:07:32
thing down.
1:07:33
But other ideas that are possible are the
1:07:35
United States providing air support for whatever peacekeeping
1:07:40
buffer is there along the border.
1:07:43
There's also the possibility of supplying air defense
1:07:47
systems to Ukraine to protect them from these
1:07:50
drone attacks, missile attacks from Russia.
1:07:53
Theoretically, if there's a halt to the fighting,
1:07:56
these people would be there on a peacekeeping
1:07:59
basis.
1:08:00
Another option, according to two sources Reuters spoke
1:08:03
with, is sending European forces to Ukraine but
1:08:07
putting the U.S. in charge of them.
1:08:10
Whatever is worked out, President Trump will need
1:08:12
to allay fears domestically.
1:08:15
The American public is largely supportive of Ukraine,
1:08:19
but they're also leery of more foreign entanglements.
1:08:23
Trump was elected on one of the notions
1:08:26
that he would not involve the United States
1:08:28
in overseas conflicts.
1:08:30
He has stuck to that, and by ruling
1:08:33
out troops, he's trying to stick to that
1:08:35
as well.
1:08:35
But his MAGA base of supporters, they are
1:08:39
really against this sort of thing.
1:08:41
So Trump would have to provide them some
1:08:44
sort of reassurances that the United States is
1:08:47
not going to get into a hot war
1:08:48
against Russia.
1:08:49
Yeah, because otherwise Dave Smith will get angry
1:08:52
and Scott Horton will freak out.
1:08:55
How's that Middle East war going against Iran
1:08:57
that we were going to be in?
1:09:02
Yeah, those guys are nuts.
1:09:05
By the way, you took me off the
1:09:06
track with that shirt story.
1:09:07
I meant to talk about getting a suit,
1:09:10
tailor made suit in Korea, which is what
1:09:13
people can do.
1:09:14
If you go to, and I was saying,
1:09:15
if you go to Korea, make sure to
1:09:17
go to this district.
1:09:18
There's a number of stores that do this.
1:09:21
Shop around because there's about, the price differs
1:09:24
a bit, but you can get a tailor
1:09:25
made suit for about $200 to $250 and
1:09:29
a tailor made sport coat for $150.
1:09:33
They'll fit you and then do the adjustments
1:09:35
in the same day.
1:09:36
You'll have a complete suit the next day.
1:09:38
It doesn't take forever if they have the
1:09:42
infrastructure.
1:09:44
So the idea that Zelensky had to go
1:09:47
for a million, you know, sit down, get
1:09:50
a jacket.
1:09:51
But this is haute couture, you know, Ukrainian
1:09:54
fashion.
1:09:56
You know what?
1:09:58
I am going to tell you right now
1:10:00
that in the next Paris fashion shows, I
1:10:03
don't know when they're coming up, fall, maybe
1:10:05
the fall fashion show.
1:10:07
There will be black on black.
1:10:09
There will be Zelensky inspired fashion.
1:10:13
It'll be from some previously unknown Ukrainian fashion
1:10:17
designer and people will love it.
1:10:20
Oh, this is fabulous.
1:10:22
Very much.
1:10:23
Very Zelensky of you.
1:10:25
Very Zelensky of you.
1:10:28
By the way, let me just say, trolls.
1:10:32
Dunk, go, oh yeah, dunk on the pro
1:10:35
-peace people.
1:10:35
We're anti-war and pro-peace too.
1:10:40
Doesn't mean that some things don't have to
1:10:42
happen.
1:10:42
Well, I think the pro-peace people, in
1:10:45
many instances, as proven by these next three
1:10:48
clips, may be just stooges.
1:10:50
And I would say this chat room probably
1:10:52
has more than a few stooges for China.
1:10:55
Ah, there you go, because that's what the
1:10:58
bombing of Iran was about, in my opinion.
1:11:01
Now, this is an analyst who's in the
1:11:05
intelligence side of things, so he's a little
1:11:07
different in his approach to thinking about China.
1:11:10
But when they're talking about the situation going
1:11:13
on in Ukraine and you're talking about trilateral,
1:11:17
what comes to mind?
1:11:20
When I think about the situation in Ukraine
1:11:22
and I think about trilateral, this is a
1:11:29
riddle I don't know if I can solve.
1:11:30
Well, it shouldn't be hard for you to
1:11:33
say.
1:11:34
It means that the Russians, the Ukrainians, and
1:11:37
Trump are going to get together in a
1:11:39
trilateral, three-way meeting.
1:11:41
Yes, a threesome.
1:11:42
That's what everybody thinks trilaterals are all about,
1:11:45
right?
1:11:46
That would be, yes, right, right, right, right,
1:11:49
right, right.
1:11:49
You can't end the sentence with right, right?
1:11:52
Right.
1:11:53
Right.
1:11:54
You can't, you're right.
1:11:55
Right.
1:11:55
So not according to this analyst, this guy
1:12:01
has a different look at things and he
1:12:03
thinks that this war is designed to drag
1:12:06
on and he's got his own reasons.
1:12:09
This is quite an interesting analysis, which nobody
1:12:13
has even discussed or come close to.
1:12:15
This is the new Russian trilat one.
1:12:18
And joining us now to discuss these latest
1:12:20
developments is National Security Advisor and China analyst
1:12:23
Casey Fleming.
1:12:24
He's the CEO of Black Ops Partners.
1:12:26
Casey, as always, thank you so much for
1:12:27
joining us.
1:12:28
Now, all eyes are on how the Russia
1:12:30
-Ukraine conflict is going to end.
1:12:32
Russia has just indicated it wants a trilateral
1:12:35
with India and China.
1:12:37
What could this mean in terms of Putin
1:12:38
ending or continuing the war in Ukraine?
1:12:41
I think what we're looking at, and my
1:12:43
team thinks that what we're looking at is
1:12:44
an extended peace negotiation.
1:12:48
We've got two sides.
1:12:49
We've got the United States and Ukraine who
1:12:51
want an immediate end to the war.
1:12:53
And you've got the other side, which is
1:12:55
China, Russia and other allies of China and
1:13:00
Russia who want to keep it extended.
1:13:03
And they play the long game.
1:13:04
So we want to play the short game
1:13:06
to a quick ceasefire and a quick peace
1:13:09
agreement.
1:13:09
But the other negotiators, the adversaries, want to
1:13:13
keep it much longer.
1:13:15
The CCP is the wild card in this
1:13:17
thing.
1:13:17
The CCP plays the long game.
1:13:19
They want to keep Russia engaged in Ukraine.
1:13:21
Therefore, the U.S. engaged in Ukraine to
1:13:25
keep us distracted, along with the Middle East
1:13:28
and potentially another war that pops up, either
1:13:31
Taiwan or North Korea.
1:13:32
So the game for the CCP is to
1:13:35
keep the United States very distracted so they
1:13:39
can continue their extreme aggression throughout the rest
1:13:42
of the world.
1:13:43
Oh, this doesn't surprise me that the NTD
1:13:47
China haters would see this as the angle.
1:13:49
That's not so surprising.
1:13:53
Well, I agree 100 percent with the NTD
1:13:56
China haters because they're totally on board.
1:14:01
China is running away from everywhere.
1:14:04
I just read that Angola.
1:14:07
But you maybe have been duped.
1:14:10
What, that 300,000 Chinese are fleeing Angola
1:14:14
because the Angolans are sick and tired of
1:14:16
their Belt and Road lies?
1:14:19
You may be.
1:14:20
Maybe that's not.
1:14:21
Maybe you've been duped.
1:14:23
I mean, I agree that this is NTD
1:14:26
China.
1:14:27
The worst.
1:14:28
This is what that's the reason I have
1:14:29
these clips.
1:14:30
This is the worst case analysis.
1:14:32
It's not like best case.
1:14:34
OK, OK.
1:14:35
Well, it's good.
1:14:36
It's the worst case.
1:14:36
And I'm looking at China as the bad
1:14:38
guy in everything you do, everything you see,
1:14:41
everything you eat, everything you buy is China.
1:14:43
Best.
1:14:43
And so it's OK.
1:14:45
So we're continue with that thesis in mind.
1:14:47
On that note, both China and India have
1:14:49
been buying Russian oil, which the U.S.
1:14:51
says has been helping to fund the conflict,
1:14:53
although India has been buying less since President
1:14:56
Trump slashed additional tariffs on Indian exports to
1:14:58
the U.S. over its Russian oil and
1:15:00
gas imports.
1:15:01
But reports note that China is involved with
1:15:03
more than just economic support.
1:15:05
Some note the no limits partnership that was
1:15:07
struck right before the invasion.
1:15:09
What has been China's role here?
1:15:11
China's role has been very supportive of Russia.
1:15:14
You remember that they created a very strong
1:15:18
alliance and agreement, friends until the end, before
1:15:23
Russia ever went into Ukraine.
1:15:26
So there's a strategic partnership there, at least
1:15:29
for now, where they are aligned against the
1:15:33
United States and to remove the United States
1:15:37
as a global superpower and for the CCP's
1:15:40
eventual rule of the rest of the world.
1:15:43
So it's a partnership that we cannot ignore.
1:15:47
The CCP is the wild card in this
1:15:49
situation.
1:15:51
They are the grand puppet master with Russia,
1:15:54
Iran, Pakistan, North Korea underneath that, and to
1:15:57
a little bit of an extent, India as
1:16:00
well.
1:16:01
So China is the wild card.
1:16:03
They want to keep this war going as
1:16:04
long as they possibly can.
1:16:06
And if there is a temporary ceasefire or
1:16:09
a, quote, temporary peace agreement, it will be
1:16:13
temporary.
1:16:14
Okay.
1:16:14
And does he explain just how China is
1:16:17
going to keep this war going as long
1:16:20
as possible?
1:16:21
I mean, are they going to do that
1:16:22
through their misinformation?
1:16:25
But what are they going to, what tools
1:16:27
do they have for this?
1:16:29
Tucker Carlson.
1:16:31
What do you mean, Tucker Carlson?
1:16:33
Is he a pro-China guy all of
1:16:34
a sudden?
1:16:35
I don't think, I think there's a lot
1:16:37
of unwitting dupes.
1:16:39
You named a couple of them, the so
1:16:42
-called peaceniks, the people in the chat room
1:16:44
that condemn us when in fact we're the
1:16:47
peaceniks.
1:16:48
But why?
1:16:49
Okay, hold on, hold on.
1:16:50
I'm with you.
1:16:52
I'm just trying to understand where to look
1:16:54
for this.
1:16:56
They're clearly not getting a phone call saying,
1:16:59
hey, best price, say more Russia, bad.
1:17:02
I think a good example is Mr. Peepers
1:17:04
at the sit down with Maloney in the
1:17:07
middle, rolling your eyes, and he's going on
1:17:10
and on about how we should demand a
1:17:13
ceasefire instead of the peace agreement.
1:17:19
I'm with you on the European Union, Stooges,
1:17:22
for sure.
1:17:23
Because we know it just by what we
1:17:26
know, which is the ceasefire is a non
1:17:29
-starter for Putin because he knows that all
1:17:32
that means is just going to be a
1:17:34
pause so Ukraine can regroup and re-attack.
1:17:38
And so they can't have that.
1:17:41
And they're not going to do a ceasefire
1:17:43
under the circumstances.
1:17:44
But yet, why is Mr. Peepers pushing it
1:17:46
out of the blue, knowing full well what
1:17:48
happened with Trump and Putin?
1:17:50
But he's yack, yack, yacking it right there
1:17:52
with Maloney in the middle.
1:17:55
So I say the Chinese got there, and
1:17:57
like this guy says, they're puppet masters.
1:18:00
They got these puppets, and the puppets are
1:18:02
everywhere, according to him.
1:18:04
And I think there's some evidence of that.
1:18:06
First of all, Maloney in the middle just
1:18:08
sounds like a cool game.
1:18:11
I mean, it's like, spin the bottle on
1:18:12
steroids.
1:18:13
Maloney in the middle.
1:18:17
Well, I'll ask you the question after you
1:18:19
set up the last clip of this.
1:18:20
And I have a question about this.
1:18:23
And speaking of alliances, Casey, what about the
1:18:25
North Korean troops fighting alongside the Russians?
1:18:27
How should we read that?
1:18:29
The strong alliance, like I mentioned, China is
1:18:32
the grand puppeteer, the grand master puppeteer.
1:18:36
With Russia, Iran, Pakistan, and North Korea underneath
1:18:40
that piece of it.
1:18:41
And just to add a little bit of
1:18:42
confusion and a little bit more complexity, underneath
1:18:45
Iran, you have the terrorist organizations.
1:18:48
So this is all a master plan by
1:18:50
the Chinese Communist Party.
1:18:52
I think we as a government, we as
1:18:54
a country in the free world underestimate China.
1:18:56
We all have a long history of underestimating
1:18:59
the Chinese Communist Party, and it's high time
1:19:02
that we understand just how critical their role
1:19:05
is in the future developments of the world.
1:19:08
Expand on that for us a little bit.
1:19:10
What is China's goal in terms of the
1:19:12
Russia-Ukraine war here?
1:19:13
Is it in the Chinese regime's interest for
1:19:15
it to continue?
1:19:16
Absolutely.
1:19:18
They are supplying Russia with finance, buying Russian
1:19:22
oil and military armaments, including drones.
1:19:26
So they're fully engaged.
1:19:28
Again, they want this war to continue indefinitely.
1:19:33
Hold on a second.
1:19:33
That's very interesting, and I'll tell you why.
1:19:35
Let me hear that first bit.
1:19:37
Expand on that for us a little bit.
1:19:38
What is China's goal in terms of the
1:19:40
Russia-Ukraine war here?
1:19:42
Is it in the Chinese regime's interest for
1:19:43
it to continue?
1:19:45
Absolutely.
1:19:46
They are supplying Russia with finance, buying Russian
1:19:50
oil and military armaments, including drones.
1:19:54
Drones.
1:19:55
The reason I pick up on that is
1:19:57
because that is a main, was a main
1:20:00
talking point by Queen Ursula in her Zelensky
1:20:03
love fest, where she said, well, you know,
1:20:06
it looks like there's going to be mainly
1:20:08
drones that we're going to be building in
1:20:10
Ukraine.
1:20:13
So it's a twist.
1:20:15
It's a twist around to think of it,
1:20:16
but maybe she's also in on this and
1:20:20
like, well, you know, there's just going to
1:20:21
be lots of drones because China's going to
1:20:23
do drones and we might as well do
1:20:25
drones and we'll just keep this a drone
1:20:26
thing because it's a big money maker for
1:20:28
my overlords in China.
1:20:32
Does that make any sense?
1:20:33
Yeah, I guess.
1:20:34
Could be.
1:20:35
OK.
1:20:35
So they're fully engaged.
1:20:37
Again, they want this.
1:20:38
They want this war to continue indefinitely.
1:20:41
So it keeps us distracted, keeps us spread
1:20:44
very thin from supporting, you know, two, three
1:20:48
wars around the world.
1:20:51
So CCP has ultimate designs.
1:20:54
I think when you have to look at
1:20:55
it, they they want to rule the world
1:20:57
completely in their 100 year plan, which ends
1:21:00
in the year 2049 as Xi Jinping and
1:21:03
the CCP have been overachievers.
1:21:05
You might want to forecast that being year
1:21:07
2035, which is 10 short years away.
1:21:11
And here's a quote from me.
1:21:14
The world will be won or lost within
1:21:17
the next 10 years.
1:21:18
That's from our analysis of what's been going
1:21:22
on.
1:21:22
And we've been in this game quite a
1:21:24
long time.
1:21:26
Well, here's my question.
1:21:30
If we have stooges and I'm not going
1:21:34
to go for podcasters or trolls in the
1:21:37
troll room, but let's say peepers, maybe Ursula.
1:21:41
Ursula is corrupt.
1:21:41
We know that because just look at the
1:21:43
text gate with Pfizer.
1:21:45
She's clear and she's not elected.
1:21:46
She's just showed up all of a sudden
1:21:49
from peepers land.
1:21:53
So what is the incentive for them?
1:21:56
That has to be money.
1:22:00
You're not telling me that they're in it
1:22:01
just for the power.
1:22:05
Well, that's a good question.
1:22:06
And I don't know the answer to it.
1:22:09
There is an incentive of some sort.
1:22:12
Money.
1:22:13
I mean, don't they just want to have
1:22:14
lots and lots and lots of money and
1:22:16
just be, you know?
1:22:17
Well, I think that they would have that
1:22:18
type of attitude, I'm sure.
1:22:20
Because, you know, everyone's always jealous of somebody,
1:22:23
the billionaires of the United States and China,
1:22:25
which has just as almost as many.
1:22:28
And their luxury life, life of luxury.
1:22:31
Yes.
1:22:32
Villas.
1:22:32
Yes.
1:22:33
Here and there.
1:22:34
They have them.
1:22:34
Although our people don't do that so much.
1:22:36
No, no.
1:22:37
But they like having their hair done in
1:22:38
Paris and flying around.
1:22:40
And flying around.
1:22:41
Flying around.
1:22:42
Flying around, basically.
1:22:44
By the way, a lot of those.
1:22:45
And being extolled.
1:22:46
Extolled?
1:22:48
Extolled.
1:22:48
Oh, look at who I, you know.
1:22:52
Yeah.
1:22:52
Yeah.
1:22:53
Yeah.
1:22:53
Worshipped.
1:22:54
Worshipped.
1:22:54
Yes.
1:22:56
Well, there's a plan afoot.
1:22:57
If it's money, if it's money, then there's
1:23:00
something.
1:23:01
There's a plan here that.
1:23:03
Do you mind if I do a little
1:23:04
series here?
1:23:07
I relinquish the floor because I gave you
1:23:09
my screwball analysis that nobody else has even
1:23:13
touched.
1:23:13
It's good.
1:23:14
And now you can do if you've got
1:23:16
something else.
1:23:17
And I'll also add to that that.
1:23:20
If it gets boring, I'll let you know.
1:23:21
Yeah, I don't care.
1:23:23
Of course.
1:23:24
Well, you'll let me know, but it won't
1:23:25
stop me.
1:23:26
Yeah, no, it never does make a difference.
1:23:28
You just get irked.
1:23:29
I'm not even going to get irked because
1:23:31
I think you'll like it.
1:23:32
But we do know that Mark Rutte, Secretary
1:23:38
General of.
1:23:42
Don't get too excited.
1:23:44
Oh, nuts.
1:23:45
It's not Mark Rutte.
1:23:47
But he kept saying, well, you know, NATO
1:23:50
when we say yes, we must, the United
1:23:53
States must pivot to Asia, to the Pacific,
1:23:56
must pivot to Pacific.
1:23:58
So this is not only just Russia now,
1:24:00
but it must be the Pacific.
1:24:02
So that is definitely on deck.
1:24:04
And again, I think our general agreement is
1:24:07
that the bombing of the Iranian nuclear facilities
1:24:11
was to send a message to China, and
1:24:13
it seems to have worked.
1:24:17
It ended and President Trump even sent the
1:24:21
Israeli jets back, you know, because I don't
1:24:24
know who's in charge there.
1:24:24
You've got to wonder.
1:24:27
Anyway, so this starts off with Besant, our
1:24:30
Secretary of the Treasury, who said, oh, no
1:24:33
way.
1:24:34
I don't want to be the Fed.
1:24:35
I don't want President Trump.
1:24:36
He said, oh, he loves what he's doing.
1:24:38
He wants to be the he wants he
1:24:40
wants to be right where he is.
1:24:42
No, he does not want to be a
1:24:43
part of the Fed.
1:24:43
And I think it's pretty clear that President
1:24:45
Trump has his his sight set clearly on
1:24:49
the Fed and and the power that they
1:24:52
have.
1:24:53
And everybody should be happy that that that's
1:24:55
being looked at because it sucks.
1:24:58
It sucks that the Fed has so much
1:25:00
power over our lives.
1:25:02
So we start first with this is him
1:25:06
with Kudlow.
1:25:10
And this is kind of not really discussed
1:25:13
that very much.
1:25:13
But this foreign investment that we keep hearing
1:25:17
about, oh, you know, 500 billion from these
1:25:19
guys, 700 billion from these guys, everyone's going
1:25:22
to be that's not that's not just a
1:25:25
direct check that they write off to American
1:25:29
companies.
1:25:29
This is highly orchestrated.
1:25:31
We have these agreements in place where the
1:25:35
Japanese, the Koreans, and to some extent, the
1:25:39
Europeans will invest in companies and industries that
1:25:44
we direct them largely at the president's discretion.
1:25:48
And how does that work?
1:25:49
I mean, it's almost like an offshore appropriation.
1:25:52
I'm not sure we've ever had anything like
1:25:54
that in the States before.
1:25:55
Have you consulted with, I don't know, the
1:25:58
Senate Finance Committee or the House Waste and
1:26:01
Means Committee or or what?
1:26:04
Well, Larry, I think a good framing of
1:26:06
that is other countries, in essence, are providing
1:26:09
us with a sovereign wealth fund.
1:26:11
So so they're going to buy our goods.
1:26:14
Well, that's essentially what's going on.
1:26:16
Well, wait, let me step back.
1:26:18
They're going to build our factories.
1:26:20
They're going to help us to build new
1:26:22
factories, which Mr. Trump loves.
1:26:24
Exactly.
1:26:25
So the way to think about it is
1:26:27
these huge surpluses accumulated offshore.
1:26:30
Let's take Japan.
1:26:32
We're going to have 550 billion and they
1:26:35
will be reinvesting that back into the U
1:26:39
.S. economy.
1:26:40
And we will be able to direct them
1:26:42
as we reshore these critical industries.
1:26:46
We are trying to de-risk the U
1:26:48
.S. economy from what we saw during COVID.
1:26:51
President loves new factories.
1:26:54
He'll take rehabbed old factories.
1:26:56
He loves new factories.
1:26:57
So I thought that was rather interesting that
1:27:00
basically, I guess the the Treasury is saying,
1:27:04
OK, here's where you're going to put the
1:27:06
money.
1:27:06
This is what you're going to do.
1:27:09
If true, but it's and I'm sure that
1:27:11
that's where tariffs and all kinds of other
1:27:13
stuff comes into play that we're not told
1:27:16
about.
1:27:16
It's like, well, you don't want to put
1:27:18
your money into these companies tariff.
1:27:21
We're just going to mess with you with
1:27:22
tariffs.
1:27:23
So then it come this.
1:27:26
And thanks to Chris Fisher from Jupiter Broadcasting.
1:27:28
He did a great series on these.
1:27:30
And I was I was taken by it.
1:27:33
And it's from Arthur Hayes.
1:27:36
He's a former Wall Street guy, Deutsche Bank,
1:27:39
Citigroup, market maker in ETFs, trader, Citibank in
1:27:46
Hong Kong.
1:27:46
He's been around, but he also co-founded
1:27:49
BitMEX, which is a cryptocurrency exchange.
1:27:51
And he's widely regarded as someone who's smart.
1:27:56
And he explains the stable coin gambit under
1:28:02
Besant and the control it will have over
1:28:06
the entire world and how it will neuter
1:28:09
the Fed.
1:28:10
There's two pools of money, which I think
1:28:13
Besant via monetary policy and aggressive use of
1:28:17
terrorizing sanctions can make people on board in
1:28:21
the stable coins.
1:28:22
The first is the euro dollar market.
1:28:23
Right.
1:28:24
So, you know, 1950s and 60s euro dollar
1:28:27
market was created because of and just we've
1:28:30
been through this before, but the euro dollar
1:28:32
market is nothing more than dollars that are
1:28:34
not in America, but mainly traded in foreign
1:28:38
exchange in Europe.
1:28:40
And there's a lot of them.
1:28:40
And once they're in a non-American bank,
1:28:44
you know, there's really not much control we
1:28:46
have over it.
1:28:47
So that's the euro dollar, as they call
1:28:49
it.
1:28:49
You know, 1950s and 60s euro dollar market
1:28:52
was created because of all the regulations and
1:28:54
prohibitions about interest payments and trade flows that
1:28:59
the U.S. monetary authorities are putting on
1:29:01
commercial banks.
1:29:02
And so you have these foreign branches of
1:29:03
U.S. banks and foreign banks saying, hey,
1:29:05
I'll take your dollars outside of U.S.
1:29:07
control.
1:29:08
And so we have this 10 to 13
1:29:10
trillion dollar market, which nobody has any control
1:29:13
over.
1:29:15
Oftentimes influences Fed and Treasury policy in terms
1:29:18
of when dollars become expensive and cheap in
1:29:21
the euro dollar market.
1:29:22
And you can probably trace almost every financial
1:29:23
crisis outside of the United States to euro
1:29:26
dollar market flows.
1:29:28
And, you know, these flows are not doing
1:29:31
what Bessett wants them to do.
1:29:32
He can't control them.
1:29:33
He doesn't know where they are.
1:29:34
He can't make them buy what he wants,
1:29:35
which is Treasury bills.
1:29:37
So my idea, and maybe he'll do this
1:29:39
or maybe he won't, I don't know, is
1:29:41
right now, why do you feel comfortable in
1:29:43
a euro dollar?
1:29:44
Because every time your banking institution has gotten
1:29:46
into trouble, the Fed, the Treasury bills you
1:29:48
out, even if technically they shouldn't be doing
1:29:50
it.
1:29:51
So because you're not a member of the
1:29:52
discount window, don't follow U.S. regulations.
1:29:54
But, you know, we can point to many,
1:29:56
many, even 2008, the Fed secretly bailed out
1:29:59
all these foreign branches of banks for all
1:30:02
their bad trading policies to make sure the
1:30:04
euro dollar depositor was sweet.
1:30:06
So the idea here is to have stablecoin
1:30:10
flood the world, but not just floating out
1:30:12
there as dollar equivalents, but to have complete
1:30:16
control over the users of it.
1:30:18
Already 400 million people are using stablecoin throughout
1:30:22
the rest of the world.
1:30:23
And this is how Bessett never wants to
1:30:25
go to leave for the Fed because he
1:30:27
can actually neuter the Fed and control interest
1:30:31
rates through the stablecoins backed by short-term
1:30:35
U.S. Treasuries.
1:30:36
So the first thing Bessett should do is
1:30:38
say, hey, guess what?
1:30:40
If you don't have your money in a
1:30:41
U.S. branch of a bank or a
1:30:43
U.S. bank inside of America, you do
1:30:45
not have a guarantee any longer.
1:30:47
We will not come and save you anymore.
1:30:49
So all of a sudden these dollars are
1:30:51
like, oh, OK, well, there isn't this blanket
1:30:53
government guarantee from the Fed and the Treasury
1:30:54
for these trillions of dollars that I have
1:30:56
deposited on these banks.
1:30:59
But I could put my money into a
1:31:01
stablecoin.
1:31:03
And a stablecoin means that the dollars are
1:31:05
either a deposit of the U.S. branch
1:31:07
of a bank in America or they're holding
1:31:09
Treasury bills.
1:31:11
So if you don't feel safe in your
1:31:13
Deutsche Bank account in Switzerland or wherever, just
1:31:16
talk to your authorized participant and move these
1:31:19
deposits over to a stablecoin.
1:31:21
And now you have access to your dollars.
1:31:23
You have the blanket guarantee of the U
1:31:25
.S. government.
1:31:26
And guess what?
1:31:27
You might earn a bit of a yield
1:31:28
on your money because you probably don't get
1:31:31
much of a yield in a euro dollar
1:31:32
deposit outside of America because the banks don't
1:31:34
actually need your money and they have to
1:31:35
pay capital charges for the Basel III and
1:31:37
blah, blah, blah.
1:31:38
All the bad things about why banks don't
1:31:40
like large deposits.
1:31:42
And so now you have a $10 to
1:31:44
$13 trillion TAM of money that could flow
1:31:47
into stablecoins from abroad.
1:31:50
And what's in a stablecoin?
1:31:51
Besson has full control.
1:31:52
He knows where you are, which bank.
1:31:55
He knows where you're clearing your Treasuries.
1:31:57
And the best part is he can offer
1:32:00
you a yield that's lower than Fed funds.
1:32:03
So if Fed funds is four and a
1:32:04
half, he can say, oh, guess what?
1:32:06
I'll give you two on a six-month
1:32:08
T-bill.
1:32:08
And you say, well, I can't really do
1:32:10
anything about that because I'm not going to
1:32:11
go into a U.S. bank deposit.
1:32:13
The banks don't even pay you anywhere close
1:32:15
to Fed funds.
1:32:16
So fuck it.
1:32:17
I'll just buy the 2% that Besson
1:32:18
offers.
1:32:19
So Besson can, in one fell stroke, completely
1:32:21
neuter the Fed and no longer does the
1:32:24
Fed have any control over Fed funds because
1:32:25
Besson can offer the Treasury bill at whatever
1:32:27
price he wants, unconstrained by what Powell or
1:32:31
whoever his successor does.
1:32:33
So that's the control mechanism.
1:32:35
Now, how are we going to spread these
1:32:38
stablecoin around the world and the United States
1:32:40
so everybody starts using them?
1:32:44
We hearken back to Elon's Everything app, xMoney,
1:32:48
and not just him.
1:32:50
What was that dumb Facebook coin that they
1:32:57
almost got through?
1:32:57
I can't remember the name of that thing.
1:32:59
It was...
1:32:59
I know who would know.
1:33:03
Error?
1:33:04
Error?
1:33:04
Error?
1:33:05
Error would know.
1:33:06
Error would know.
1:33:07
What was the name of the Facebook money
1:33:09
that they tried to push through?
1:33:13
So, about the last bit, the Facebook settlement
1:33:16
money, payment from the 700...
1:33:18
No, see, she's stupid.
1:33:20
Oh, she's dumb.
1:33:21
She's a dummy.
1:33:22
Yeah.
1:33:22
Facebook had a coin they tried to push
1:33:25
into the market.
1:33:29
Oh, you mean like the launch coin on
1:33:32
the Believe platform?
1:33:33
It's been...
1:33:34
Okay, has no answer for me.
1:33:36
Stupid.
1:33:37
Well, she should.
1:33:39
The corpus would have that information.
1:33:41
Yeah, all right.
1:33:42
Stableface, whatever it was called.
1:33:45
Someone will eventually come up with it.
1:33:47
Maybe you dreamed it.
1:33:48
The fart coin.
1:33:50
Zuckerbucks.
1:33:50
No, none of that.
1:33:52
Zuckerbucks.
1:33:52
That's it.
1:33:54
The Libra.
1:33:54
There it is.
1:33:55
Thank you.
1:33:56
Thank you, Weirdo.
1:33:56
The Libra.
1:33:58
And everyone was all in.
1:33:59
Thank you, Weirdo.
1:34:00
The guy's name was Weirdo, is that right?
1:34:02
W-I-I-R-D-O, Weirdo.
1:34:06
So, what could you do now to spread
1:34:09
your stable coin throughout the world?
1:34:11
The U.S. has ways.
1:34:12
You have a lot of retail around the
1:34:16
world in developed and developing countries.
1:34:18
I live in Asia, and basically the entire
1:34:20
investment game out here in Asia is how
1:34:23
do we get local currency into dollars so
1:34:25
that they can buy higher yielding assets and
1:34:28
equities?
1:34:29
That's literally all of finance in Asia.
1:34:30
And then every so often, the regulators come
1:34:32
after people, and they basically put the young
1:34:34
guy in jail, and the boss stays sweet,
1:34:37
as they do.
1:34:39
And that is the game.
1:34:41
So, best I could say, okay, guess what?
1:34:43
We're going to deputize Elon Musk and Mark
1:34:46
Zuckerberg and give them protection to go and
1:34:49
offer a stable coin big account.
1:34:51
And we don't care if a foreign regulator,
1:34:55
whether banking or internet regulators says, we don't
1:34:57
like this.
1:34:57
We don't like that you're basically giving a
1:34:59
dollar big account to our entire underclass or
1:35:03
anyone who's not a wealthy individual.
1:35:06
And they don't care because they're sitting in
1:35:09
Hawaii and Austin, Texas, and Trump is protecting
1:35:12
them.
1:35:13
And if you go and you try to
1:35:15
remove access to Facebook or X, guess what?
1:35:18
Sanctions.
1:35:18
Just like what Trump threatened with Europe when
1:35:20
they had their digital information act or whatever
1:35:23
it is.
1:35:23
So, that's how they'd spread it around.
1:35:25
I'm told that's of all the things he's
1:35:27
saying, I'm like, that makes a lot of
1:35:29
sense.
1:35:30
And looking at the Genius Act, that would
1:35:32
be possible if they adhere to certain.
1:35:35
But basically, you have to have $10 billion
1:35:37
in cash.
1:35:39
That's possible.
1:35:41
But now to bring it back around to
1:35:43
the corrupt CCP influenced politicians.
1:35:48
This is another perfect gambit for it.
1:35:50
And then furthermore, Besson finally has a sanctions
1:35:53
weapon, right?
1:35:53
So, if you're in Asia or a lot
1:35:55
of.
1:35:56
Stop.
1:35:57
And I will, I will say that I
1:36:00
could call this a boring presentation, but it's
1:36:02
interesting at the same time, which is a
1:36:05
conundrum.
1:36:06
But that's not why I'm stopping it.
1:36:08
Who is this guy again?
1:36:10
Arthur Hayes.
1:36:12
And what's his background?
1:36:14
Wall Street banker.
1:36:17
And the founder of Bitfinex, a big cryptocurrency
1:36:20
exchange.
1:36:21
But he's a long term.
1:36:25
I think mainly in Hong Kong, Deutsche City.
1:36:27
He says he's in Asia.
1:36:28
Yeah.
1:36:31
Okay.
1:36:31
Okay.
1:36:32
This is the last clip.
1:36:33
So, thank you for hanging in there.
1:36:35
And then furthermore, Besson finally has a sanctions
1:36:37
weapon, right?
1:36:38
So, if you're in Asia or a lot
1:36:40
of developing world, all the elites essentially steal
1:36:42
from their people and put their money in
1:36:44
US banks in some way, shape or form.
1:36:47
And so, guess what?
1:36:48
President or prime minister or parliamentarian, if you
1:36:52
don't allow Western social media companies to bank
1:36:55
all of your people with dollars, I'm going
1:36:57
to sanction you and you're going to lose
1:36:59
access to the billions of dollars that you
1:37:00
stole from your people.
1:37:01
And so, guess what's going to happen?
1:37:02
Nothing.
1:37:02
And so, I think that is how you're
1:37:04
going to get sort of like 20, 25
1:37:08
trillion dollar tam of money that could flow
1:37:10
into dollar stable coins.
1:37:13
And I think they're hinting at this already
1:37:14
in terms of you have the major social
1:37:16
media companies saying, oh, we're investigating stable coins
1:37:19
and this, that and the other thing.
1:37:21
And Besson's very pro on them.
1:37:23
And then basically, what does a stable coin
1:37:24
do?
1:37:24
They're going to buy treasury bills.
1:37:25
And they'll buy whatever yield Besson offers.
1:37:27
They can completely destroy the Fed.
1:37:29
You can put short term rates wherever he
1:37:31
wants it.
1:37:31
And now he's got a sink of tens
1:37:34
of trillions of dollars that he can essentially
1:37:36
fund the U.S. government with until they
1:37:39
do some sort of yield curve control to
1:37:40
bring down the long end.
1:37:41
Exactly.
1:37:41
Until it no longer works, which is probably
1:37:44
10 years or so.
1:37:45
But then it will no longer work.
1:37:47
I think this is a decent thesis.
1:37:52
Well, it's a fascinating one, that's for sure.
1:37:54
And it also could be the, it could
1:37:58
end the Fed.
1:38:00
But it could also collapse on itself at
1:38:03
some point, for some reason unknown.
1:38:05
Oh, easily, easily.
1:38:06
And bring the entire world's economy to a
1:38:08
halt, at least for a while, because you
1:38:11
can't do it forever.
1:38:12
But it could become the linchpin of the
1:38:17
economy, which would be interesting to see.
1:38:20
But I think the angle that you caught,
1:38:23
which was the interesting thing that caught my
1:38:25
attention that made me want to listen to
1:38:27
the whole thing, which is that, yes, Elon
1:38:30
Musk has been talking about making X an
1:38:33
all-in, does-everything-for-you kind of
1:38:36
monetary market of some sort.
1:38:40
To compete with, well, stablecoin wants to compete
1:38:44
with the Fed and with SWIFT.
1:38:48
Enter Russia, enter Russia.
1:38:50
Russia comes back into the fold.
1:38:52
Right, which is what we want.
1:38:54
We want Russia back in the fold.
1:38:56
And then you have Elon wanting to compete
1:38:59
with PayPal, since he never, he always felt
1:39:03
wronged in some funny way, because they didn't
1:39:06
do certain things.
1:39:07
Well, they kicked him out.
1:39:08
They kicked him out of PayPal.
1:39:10
That's why he felt wronged.
1:39:11
That's whenever people connect Peter Thiel to Elon
1:39:14
Musk.
1:39:14
Like, there's no love lost between those two.
1:39:18
And that's why he spent millions of dollars
1:39:20
getting x.com back, because he always wanted
1:39:24
PayPal to be called x.
1:39:27
And they kicked him out, probably because he
1:39:29
was no good, or at least for not
1:39:31
what they Or probably because he's annoying.
1:39:32
I think he is good.
1:39:34
Just, he's just annoying.
1:39:36
But he's got to be annoying.
1:39:37
I mean, even Trump figured that out.
1:39:40
Yeah.
1:39:41
And he's been very quiet.
1:39:43
You know, where's his, where's his new political
1:39:45
party?
1:39:45
I think he's been reading, hey, shh, we're
1:39:49
going to get you, we're going to make
1:39:50
you the stablecoin queen.
1:39:54
He's been very quiet.
1:39:57
Yeah, more or less.
1:39:58
And he does, and he lets all the
1:39:59
pro-Trump activism goes right through x, no
1:40:04
problem, never, you know, doesn't get bumped off
1:40:06
or anything.
1:40:10
A lot of screwball stuff on x, I
1:40:13
have to say.
1:40:14
It's fun.
1:40:15
I know.
1:40:16
I see you.
1:40:17
Someone, someone was like, you're always complaining that
1:40:20
you can't get past a hundred thousand followers,
1:40:25
but you're not growing your account like Dvorak.
1:40:28
You're not growing.
1:40:29
My account shrunk again.
1:40:31
But just the whole concept of you've got
1:40:34
to grow your account, man, by posting a
1:40:37
lot.
1:40:37
That's how you grow your account.
1:40:39
And when do I reap the harvest from
1:40:41
this growth?
1:40:42
When do I get it?
1:40:42
Well, there's no harvest to be reaped, except
1:40:44
it's just prestige.
1:40:45
Yeah.
1:40:45
I would say that I'm going to subscribe.
1:40:48
I got a check mark because of my
1:40:50
numbers, but I am going to subscribe to
1:40:53
x.
1:40:54
And I'll bet you my numbers go up.
1:40:57
Oh, now there's an interesting if, oh, that's
1:41:00
very interesting.
1:41:01
Yeah.
1:41:01
That's what my thesis is.
1:41:03
I've been waiting on it because when it
1:41:05
stabilizes, I'm going to subscribe.
1:41:08
And then I want to see if my
1:41:10
numbers, because my numbers should technically go up.
1:41:12
And this will grow your brand.
1:41:14
It'll grow the brand.
1:41:16
The fabulous and valuable Dvorak brand.
1:41:24
Yeah, man.
1:41:25
Grow your account and your brand.
1:41:27
This is beautiful.
1:41:29
Well, if you can do it and if
1:41:30
it works, I'm all in.
1:41:32
Yeah.
1:41:32
Well, we'll see.
1:41:33
It's a test coming up.
1:41:34
Coming up.
1:41:35
Coming up.
1:41:36
I'll report back.
1:41:38
Just to make sure we don't fall asleep.
1:41:47
Missouri AG Andrew Bailey being brought in for
1:41:52
the future replacement of FBI Director Cash Patel.
1:41:57
I just love Alex.
1:41:59
Breaking exclusive.
1:42:02
Okay.
1:42:03
What?
1:42:04
Oh, yeah.
1:42:05
Well, first of all, he's deputy director, not
1:42:07
director.
1:42:08
Yeah.
1:42:08
They're bringing in two new guys to be
1:42:12
co-deputy directors.
1:42:14
Because as you well pointed out, that was
1:42:16
the breaking exclusive on this show.
1:42:19
You know.
1:42:20
Oh, no.
1:42:20
Actually, Cash Patel is the director.
1:42:21
I'm sorry.
1:42:22
Yeah, he is the director.
1:42:23
I know what you're talking about.
1:42:24
Think of Bongino.
1:42:25
Bongino.
1:42:26
Yeah.
1:42:26
Cash Patel.
1:42:27
I think like Bongino, he wants to pop
1:42:29
out.
1:42:29
He's tired of it.
1:42:30
He didn't like it.
1:42:31
No, he's got nothing better to do.
1:42:34
Cash Patel?
1:42:36
Yeah.
1:42:38
He's got nothing better to do.
1:42:40
He can do podcasts.
1:42:42
No.
1:42:43
No.
1:42:43
Yes.
1:42:44
He's no good.
1:42:45
People love podcasts.
1:42:48
Well, they love podcasts, but you got to
1:42:50
have some chops.
1:42:51
By the way, I need to tell you
1:42:52
my story.
1:42:53
I went to the podcast movement in Dallas.
1:42:56
Ah, here we go.
1:42:57
Yeah.
1:42:57
I went to the podcast movement in Dallas.
1:42:59
Was it a bowel movement?
1:43:01
No, no.
1:43:02
So this is the big podcast industrial complex
1:43:05
conference.
1:43:09
Were you around when...
1:43:12
Yeah, I don't know if you were around
1:43:13
when...
1:43:13
I'm sure I was around.
1:43:14
Well, you were around, but you were alive
1:43:17
on this earth.
1:43:18
The first...
1:43:19
So we had the New Media Expo, which
1:43:22
always took place in California.
1:43:27
What's that place that sounds like a Canadian
1:43:28
place?
1:43:29
Ontario.
1:43:30
Ontario, California.
1:43:32
And the New Media Expo, then those guys
1:43:36
were very smart.
1:43:37
And they said, well, you know, this podcasting
1:43:39
thing has taken off.
1:43:41
Let's call it the podcast conference.
1:43:43
And they did their first one in Vegas.
1:43:46
And we had a pod show at the
1:43:49
time.
1:43:51
And so I don't know if you were
1:43:52
there yet.
1:43:54
And they said to me, hey, Adam, would
1:43:56
you come and do...
1:43:59
You've complained about this for a while.
1:44:02
Well, this upcoming complaint that you're going to
1:44:04
discuss.
1:44:04
Yes, just to reiterate, come and do the
1:44:07
keynote.
1:44:09
I'm like, I don't really like doing keynotes,
1:44:11
but you invented it.
1:44:13
OK, fine.
1:44:15
And they said, OK, I'll do the keynote.
1:44:17
OK, can we put you down for a
1:44:19
gold sponsorship?
1:44:20
I'm like, what?
1:44:22
Well, yeah, if you want the keynote, you
1:44:23
have to be a gold sponsor, which I
1:44:26
think was $10,000 or $15,000.
1:44:28
I'm like, no.
1:44:30
So in fact, I won't charge you for
1:44:33
a speaking fee for showing up.
1:44:35
They got in a huff.
1:44:37
Like, man, you're not supporting the industry.
1:44:42
You got all that VC money.
1:44:44
Now, we did.
1:44:45
It's true.
1:44:46
You got all that VC money.
1:44:48
Yeah, you got VC money, but not to
1:44:50
squander it.
1:44:51
When you give a keynote, you should be
1:44:52
paid to do the keynote, not pay them.
1:44:55
Thank you.
1:44:56
So, man, I'm like, no.
1:44:58
And it got pretty heated.
1:45:00
I said, I'll do your keynote.
1:45:02
We're not going to do a sponsorship.
1:45:04
Well, then you can't do the keynote.
1:45:05
Well, fine.
1:45:07
And what we then did is we took
1:45:08
our $10,000 and we started an unconference
1:45:12
in the hotel right next door at the
1:45:14
pool with chicks and bikinis and drinks.
1:45:17
I'm sure you would have remembered if you
1:45:19
were there.
1:45:20
I would have remembered that.
1:45:21
So I came later.
1:45:22
And it was the podcast unconference.
1:45:24
And everybody was hanging out.
1:45:26
We had the mixed drinks and beer.
1:45:29
And it did not endear me to the
1:45:32
podcast industrial complex.
1:45:33
But we were rebels.
1:45:35
Rebels, I tell you.
1:45:36
So, of course, I never got invited to
1:45:38
do anything with any podcast industrial complex conference
1:45:43
until, gosh, this is now three years ago.
1:45:47
So you were blackballed for being a dick.
1:45:51
Correct.
1:45:52
Or not playing the game.
1:45:53
But I agree with you.
1:45:54
I think you stood on proper grounds.
1:45:57
You were doing it.
1:45:58
You were a professional.
1:46:00
You don't pay somebody so you can give
1:46:02
a speech.
1:46:03
Well, I know you haven't done any conference
1:46:06
speeches for a while, but that is now
1:46:07
pretty much the entire game.
1:46:11
Yeah.
1:46:11
Well, that's why one of the reasons I
1:46:13
probably haven't done any conference speeches in the
1:46:16
last five plus years, at least.
1:46:19
At least.
1:46:21
If that's the game, I'm not playing the
1:46:23
game.
1:46:24
I don't have time for that crap.
1:46:25
I can.
1:46:26
I have a podcast to attend to.
1:46:28
And yes, you do.
1:46:30
You need to grow your brand.
1:46:31
You're busy.
1:46:32
I need to grow my brand on Twitter.
1:46:35
You're busy doing things that are very important.
1:46:37
Growing your brand.
1:46:43
So three years ago, because of the out
1:46:46
of the gate success of the podcast index,
1:46:48
and there's a lot of noise around podcasting
1:46:50
2.0 and new apps were coming up.
1:46:52
They said, well, you know, if you want
1:46:55
to do a session, you know, we'll make
1:46:58
something available to you.
1:47:00
And I said, well, you know, because at
1:47:02
this point I wanted to just meet a
1:47:04
lot of these people who've been working on
1:47:05
this project.
1:47:06
And so we all decided to meet in
1:47:08
Dallas.
1:47:08
And they literally put us during lunch in
1:47:12
a room way in the back on the
1:47:13
third floor.
1:47:15
And so with the expected results, it was
1:47:18
like 20 people there and, you know, no
1:47:20
signage, no promotion.
1:47:22
So it was quite insulting.
1:47:25
But that's a good one.
1:47:26
Yeah.
1:47:27
But it didn't cost money and we got
1:47:29
to meet everybody and hang out for a
1:47:30
couple of days.
1:47:31
So of course, I vowed I would never
1:47:34
do anything.
1:47:35
But then one of the participants in podcasting
1:47:37
2.0 Soundstack, who actually do a lot
1:47:41
of hosting and a lot of ad stuff
1:47:43
for other podcast hosting companies.
1:47:45
And they're most known for Live 365, live
1:47:48
streaming, which is a big part of podcasting
1:47:51
2.0. Witness people listening to this on
1:47:53
a modern podcast app.
1:47:55
Rocky Thomas, she said, hey, Adam, we'll pay
1:47:59
for a booth if you'll come and do,
1:48:01
you know, just a fireside chat.
1:48:04
I was like, that sounds like fun.
1:48:06
And I just and I talked to my
1:48:08
buddy, Mitch, the periodontist.
1:48:09
He said, yeah, you can use my plane.
1:48:11
And so I flew up in the morning
1:48:13
and flew back in the afternoon.
1:48:14
So I didn't have to stay overnight or
1:48:16
drive five hours each way or spend seven
1:48:19
hours getting there by commercial.
1:48:21
So not too much skin off my bones.
1:48:27
And the main thing, it was great.
1:48:30
It was fun.
1:48:30
Talked about no agenda, how awesome we are,
1:48:33
value for value, live stream, all this stuff.
1:48:36
But what was new, and this is something
1:48:39
new for conferences, which I was convinced would
1:48:42
suck.
1:48:44
The way they do it now is they
1:48:45
don't have a hundred, you know, all these
1:48:48
little rooms where, you know, you can you
1:48:50
can shove 30, 40 people in there.
1:48:53
And it always smells.
1:48:54
You know what I mean?
1:48:55
You get like those session rooms and it's
1:48:58
just as smelly and sweaty.
1:49:00
Am I right?
1:49:02
I don't know.
1:49:03
I never noticed the stench because I never
1:49:05
played a small room.
1:49:06
Well, remember, these are podcasters.
1:49:08
So these are people who typically sit in
1:49:11
their basement doing a podcast.
1:49:13
So it makes sense.
1:49:14
And then if it's full, you know, you
1:49:16
people can't stand the back and you can
1:49:18
barely move.
1:49:20
And so it's no good.
1:49:21
So they have this giant expo hall at
1:49:24
the Gaylord in Dallas.
1:49:27
And first of all, it's carpeted.
1:49:29
And I got to tell you, when it
1:49:30
comes to trade shows, carpeting is very important,
1:49:33
particularly for people who are walking around all
1:49:36
day.
1:49:37
Yeah, this is good.
1:49:38
Very thick, nice carpeting.
1:49:40
And they had all of these stages completely
1:49:42
open with chairs in front and plenty of
1:49:45
room for people to stand around.
1:49:47
And you'd think this would be a nightmare
1:49:48
with all these different interviews and speeches and
1:49:52
keynotes going on.
1:49:54
But no, they have.
1:49:56
And I guess this is a new a
1:49:57
new thing with conferences.
1:49:59
You walk into the expo hall.
1:50:01
Everybody gets a pair of headphones, wireless headphones.
1:50:05
And there's three controls on the headphones on
1:50:07
off volume button and then a channel selector
1:50:11
and the headphones on the outside turn color
1:50:14
white, blue, red, green or purple, indicating what
1:50:19
channel you're listening to.
1:50:21
So we're sitting on stage.
1:50:24
We have headphones on.
1:50:25
We have hand mics.
1:50:26
And we were on the white channel, which
1:50:28
I did say was kind of racist.
1:50:32
And the whole audience packed all had headphones
1:50:35
on with it.
1:50:36
You could see if someone wasn't listening, like
1:50:38
someone's on the red channel.
1:50:39
You could you could rouse them.
1:50:41
You could call them out.
1:50:41
But no one was doing that.
1:50:43
And they all have their headphones on.
1:50:44
I thought this was going to be the
1:50:46
stupidest thing in the world.
1:50:47
Like, how lame is this?
1:50:50
I got to tell you, it was fantastic.
1:50:53
It's like doing a podcast where everybody's on
1:50:57
the podcast, only they don't have mics and
1:51:00
they're all listening because you're in their head,
1:51:02
between their ears.
1:51:04
And no one was on their phone.
1:51:05
No one was looking down.
1:51:07
No one's looking away.
1:51:08
It was really revolutionary for the conference business.
1:51:12
I will hand that to them.
1:51:17
Sounds terrible.
1:51:18
That's what I thought.
1:51:20
But it's not.
1:51:21
So they had all the stages like it's
1:51:23
like a like an outdoor concert with multiple
1:51:26
stages in the same room.
1:51:27
Yes.
1:51:29
And these guys talking about that.
1:51:31
And, you know, like I walked past a
1:51:33
big stage and there was James Cridland was
1:51:36
interviewing the guy from Coat Hanger or Goal
1:51:39
Hanger or whatever it's called.
1:51:40
I like Coat Hanger better.
1:51:43
And and they're just talking.
1:51:45
You never would have been able to hear
1:51:47
them from way in the back.
1:51:48
But I just put the headphones on, clicked
1:51:49
on.
1:51:50
Yeah, well, that that makes sense.
1:51:52
It was great.
1:51:53
Instead of, you know, you can't really hear
1:51:55
people are poorly.
1:51:56
Mike is not loud enough.
1:51:57
You got feedback.
1:51:59
Now, we all could have just stayed at
1:52:02
home and be on Zoom, to be honest
1:52:04
about it.
1:52:05
Well, if you have a good audio engineer
1:52:07
who knows how to stage speakers.
1:52:09
So there's a delay between the front speaker
1:52:12
and the back speaker in such a way
1:52:14
that the sound sounds like what you sound
1:52:16
like, the voice of God when you're speaking
1:52:18
up there.
1:52:18
I prefer.
1:52:19
But nobody has those guys anymore.
1:52:21
I don't know why.
1:52:22
I guess they learned the code where they
1:52:25
went.
1:52:25
Yeah, they learned how to vibe code, man.
1:52:29
Anyway, it was it was very enjoyable.
1:52:33
And then and then just a bunch of
1:52:35
people I knew.
1:52:36
So everybody's going to have ear infections is
1:52:38
what you're telling me.
1:52:39
That was kind of the disgusting part.
1:52:41
They did not hand out little sanitization kits,
1:52:44
you know, but you can just wipe down
1:52:45
the you know, they get sweaty.
1:52:48
You wouldn't have liked it because, you know,
1:52:49
you get ear mold.
1:52:50
You get sweaty ear mold.
1:52:52
I don't need the aggravation of ear mold.
1:52:58
So that was the.
1:52:59
So welcome all those new people who are
1:53:01
listening.
1:53:02
Welcome all of the new listeners.
1:53:04
In fact, since we talked about it, why
1:53:07
don't we say in the morning to you,
1:53:09
the man who put the C in copper
1:53:11
disc.
1:53:13
Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend
1:53:15
on the other end.
1:53:15
The one and the only Mr. John C.
1:53:19
DeVore.
1:53:23
Yeah, good morning to you, Mr. Curry.
1:53:24
Good morning, sir.
1:53:25
Seaboost to the ground, feed in the air,
1:53:27
subs in the water and the dames and
1:53:28
knights out there.
1:53:29
In the morning to the trolls in the
1:53:30
troll room.
1:53:31
Let me count you for a second.
1:53:32
Hold on.
1:53:37
Well.
1:53:39
That is what I call an.
1:53:42
We got 1655.
1:53:44
It seems we went down.
1:53:48
Yeah, we should have 18.
1:53:49
We should have 18 at least.
1:53:51
Yes.
1:53:52
OK, well, there you go.
1:53:54
OK, probably the stable coin discussion.
1:53:59
No, I don't know.
1:54:00
No, no, no, because I don't like to
1:54:03
talk about.
1:54:04
No, that are that complicated.
1:54:05
No, because one hour and nine minutes ago
1:54:08
was the peak at 1655.
1:54:11
So that was that was.
1:54:12
Well, so well, then we then we still
1:54:14
have a problem.
1:54:17
People stop coming because they had a problem
1:54:19
a couple of weeks ago and they still
1:54:21
haven't figured out that it's been fixed.
1:54:23
Yeah, but people there are people have emailed
1:54:27
me and said, hey, it's working again.
1:54:28
So we'll have to build that one at
1:54:31
a time.
1:54:31
You know what you should when you grow
1:54:33
your brand on X, you should let people
1:54:36
know bitching about this when I grow my
1:54:38
brand.
1:54:39
But only but only when you grow your
1:54:41
brand.
1:54:41
Not before.
1:54:42
And so, yes, many of them are listening
1:54:45
at troll room dot IO or they may
1:54:47
be on one of those modern podcast apps,
1:54:48
which I highlighted at the podcast movement.
1:54:51
I would have expected all of you were
1:54:53
using them by now, but there were a
1:54:54
lot of.
1:54:55
Oh, and oh, when I told them that,
1:54:58
you know, when you go live with your
1:55:00
podcast, your podcast app will alert your audience
1:55:03
so you can grow your brand.
1:55:06
Oh, grow your show.
1:55:08
Oh, that's great.
1:55:09
And of course, through the magic of pod
1:55:11
ping technology, when we release the show, since
1:55:14
you didn't have time or couldn't listen live
1:55:15
within 90 seconds, you'll be notified of that
1:55:19
and you can get those at podcast apps
1:55:21
dot com.
1:55:23
We are also value for value.
1:55:25
Another topic much discussed, which is is kind
1:55:31
of a simple concept, really.
1:55:33
It's like we don't want to be interrupted
1:55:34
by ads.
1:55:35
We don't want to kowtow to the podcast
1:55:37
industrial complex.
1:55:39
By the way, the CPMs for those ads.
1:55:42
What do you think the CPM is for
1:55:44
an ad that's inserted?
1:55:46
Dollar?
1:55:47
Not quite that bad.
1:55:48
About 350.
1:55:49
Yeah.
1:55:51
350.
1:55:53
I mean, and it can only go down.
1:55:56
It's not going to go up.
1:55:57
No, no, no.
1:55:59
Now there's a higher CPM, which is cost
1:56:02
per thousand for those who are interested.
1:56:04
If you if you read an ad, a
1:56:06
host read ad.
1:56:08
Host read ad, I wish I could give
1:56:09
you five bucks.
1:56:10
Where I was.
1:56:11
No, that can be.
1:56:11
They say they say up to about 20.
1:56:14
But after commissions from everybody, probably you're looking
1:56:17
at 13 to the show.
1:56:20
And it would go like, you know, John,
1:56:23
Phoebe's looking so great.
1:56:25
Really?
1:56:26
Why, you think?
1:56:27
Well, I started feeding her this new food.
1:56:31
Tell me more.
1:56:32
It's called Farmer's Dog.
1:56:36
Yeah.
1:56:36
And people would immediately rush and say, wow,
1:56:39
Adam's dog is looking good.
1:56:40
I got to get me some of that.
1:56:42
And that's how it works.
1:56:43
But instead of being total shills, we just
1:56:46
ask you to support the show.
1:56:49
Equal to.
1:56:50
Directly.
1:56:50
Directly.
1:56:51
So all we have is processing fees.
1:56:54
No middleman here besides the obvious processing fees.
1:56:58
Yeah.
1:56:59
The thing is, even when you have the
1:57:01
middleman, there's you still have the processing fees.
1:57:04
But if you send a check, which we
1:57:06
gladly accept, there's a very 15 cents per
1:57:09
check.
1:57:09
Or if you send cash like synonymous of
1:57:12
dog patch, there's zero processing fees.
1:57:15
Actually, there is a cash fee now.
1:57:18
No, but they charge you to deposit money
1:57:21
into the bank.
1:57:22
Yeah.
1:57:23
After a certain amount.
1:57:25
Same thing with checks.
1:57:26
But there's a certain amount of checks.
1:57:27
I think it's like a hundred, a couple
1:57:28
hundred checks you can do for free, which
1:57:30
is really cheap.
1:57:31
It's free.
1:57:33
But then after a certain amount, then it
1:57:35
goes to the 15 cents per dollar.
1:57:41
It's 15 cents per whatever.
1:57:44
It doesn't know it's a flat fee per
1:57:46
check.
1:57:46
So if you send in a thousand dollars
1:57:48
in a check, it's 15 cents.
1:57:51
If you send in five dollars in a
1:57:52
check, it's 15 cents.
1:57:54
If you send a dollar in a check,
1:57:55
it's 15 cents.
1:57:57
Unlike, you know, the systems out there from
1:58:00
everything from Visa, MasterCard, everything is a percentage
1:58:03
of the total, which is not quite as
1:58:07
good a deal to be honest about.
1:58:09
But yes, at some point, I don't know
1:58:11
what the cutoff is.
1:58:12
I've never asked, but I do know there's
1:58:14
a cash acceptance fee.
1:58:16
I think you get after it gets to
1:58:18
a few thousand bucks, they start charging you.
1:58:20
Hey, you know what's going to revolutionize this?
1:58:23
Stablecoin.
1:58:24
That's right.
1:58:25
Probably not.
1:58:27
There's still going to be a fee.
1:58:29
You think the banks are going to let
1:58:30
anything like that slide without fees?
1:58:33
Dream world.
1:58:35
It'll have to be pretty low, but there
1:58:38
will be no middle.
1:58:38
How low can it go?
1:58:39
15 cents?
1:58:41
It'll be even lower.
1:58:43
No, no, they're probably hurting themselves at 15
1:58:46
cents.
1:58:47
Maybe.
1:58:48
I'm surprised it's that cheap.
1:58:50
I think Stripe that we have on the
1:58:52
website already accepts stablecoin.
1:58:56
I'd love to see the first person donate
1:58:58
to the show with USDC because that's what
1:59:01
they accept on Stripe.
1:59:03
What's USDC?
1:59:05
U.S. Digital Currency?
1:59:06
No, that's the Circle stablecoin.
1:59:08
You have USDT, which is Tether.
1:59:11
And of course, you'll have USDX, which will
1:59:13
be X, and USDF, which will be Facebook.
1:59:17
Yeah, USDC is already accepted.
1:59:19
I was looking at the news.
1:59:22
I was going to say trades, but it
1:59:23
wasn't in the trades.
1:59:24
It was in the news, financial news, that
1:59:26
the Zelle thing has fallen apart.
1:59:28
Oh, yeah, the banks hate it for a
1:59:31
couple of reasons.
1:59:33
Well, the bank that we deal with, the
1:59:35
two of us, refuse to take it, even
1:59:38
though it has gone through.
1:59:40
Yeah, because it's basically a wire transfer through
1:59:42
an intermediary.
1:59:44
But the banks don't like it because there's
1:59:46
no takesies-backsies.
1:59:48
They can't take it back.
1:59:49
And if so, what happens if someone gets
1:59:52
a hold of your Zelle and they just
1:59:54
empty out your bank account, then you have
1:59:56
a very unhappy, broke customer and there's no
1:59:59
way to get the money back.
2:00:01
And it's also cutting into their business.
2:00:04
Well, that's the main reason.
2:00:06
They don't care less about your poor problem.
2:00:11
Yeah, well, there's a lot of things.
2:00:13
All of these, like Venmo.
2:00:17
So Venmo uses Plaid middleware.
2:00:21
And what Plaid does is it, in essence,
2:00:24
you give it your password.
2:00:26
I mean, you don't actually give it your
2:00:27
password, but you give it permission to be
2:00:30
in your account to credit and debit money
2:00:34
and look at your stuff.
2:00:38
And so that's the bad part.
2:00:39
And what the banks have found is that
2:00:41
Plaid logs into accounts, not just when they're
2:00:44
paying or receiving money, but like 10 times
2:00:47
a day.
2:00:48
Well, let me see what he's doing now.
2:00:49
What is he spending money on here?
2:00:51
Look at that.
2:00:52
Well, maybe we can sell this to an
2:00:53
advertiser.
2:00:55
It's sick.
2:00:56
It's gross, really.
2:00:57
It's gross.
2:00:58
And they do that.
2:00:59
Well, we don't use those systems.
2:01:00
We use the basic old-fashioned system, the
2:01:03
bank itself, cash, PayPal and Stripe and now
2:01:10
Strike.
2:01:10
And that's it.
2:01:11
We don't have Square.
2:01:13
We don't do a lot of different ones.
2:01:16
But they're all out there.
2:01:17
But, you know, people say, why don't you
2:01:19
do this?
2:01:19
Why don't you do that?
2:01:20
How much more can we do?
2:01:24
Yeah.
2:01:24
Don't send blankets or water.
2:01:26
Just send your cash.
2:01:28
Anyway, we're a check or check.
2:01:30
Yeah, it's great.
2:01:33
So you can send time, talent, treasure.
2:01:37
You can't actually send time and talent.
2:01:38
But by the way, the check goes to
2:01:40
Box 339, El Cerrito, California, 94530.
2:01:45
There you go.
2:01:45
And it should be addressed to the No
2:01:47
Agenda Show or me or both.
2:01:49
Yes.
2:01:50
So we love it when people do things
2:01:54
for the show, boots on the ground, organizing
2:01:56
meetups, helping out with servers, other types of
2:01:59
things.
2:02:00
That's all very valuable to the show because
2:02:02
it saves us direct money of having to
2:02:05
pay for those services.
2:02:06
And even though we, at this point, could
2:02:09
probably do our own art, I don't think
2:02:12
we want to.
2:02:13
Because, you know, just everyone else is doing
2:02:16
prompting on the AIs to create artwork for
2:02:19
us.
2:02:19
Now, obviously, you need to have a good
2:02:21
idea.
2:02:22
Needs to be fun.
2:02:22
We like it to be funny, if possible.
2:02:24
And that's not something artificial intelligence can do.
2:02:27
So your creativeness is still highly appreciated.
2:02:31
Blue Acorn did the artwork for episode 1791.
2:02:34
We titled that Bolt Muncher, which is a
2:02:38
slur these days for robots and AI systems.
2:02:42
And it was all right.
2:02:44
I mean, if you had listened to the
2:02:46
show, then you got it and you liked
2:02:49
it.
2:02:49
Had a boomer counting out resistors on a
2:02:54
counter, which I guess is me, since I
2:02:57
told the story.
2:02:58
And there's a robot next to it whose
2:03:01
name is Clanker.
2:03:04
And it was the best one we had.
2:03:06
I mean, there were some others.
2:03:08
But you like Screw Worm.
2:03:09
I like Screw Worm.
2:03:10
You thought it hit the gross factor and
2:03:13
therefore was vetoed by you.
2:03:16
Yes, indeed.
2:03:17
Yeah, I have a gross factor thing.
2:03:18
You were both like Body Double, but that
2:03:21
was screwed up by Comic Strip Blogger, who
2:03:23
didn't put the effort in.
2:03:24
Yeah, if Comic Strip Blogger had used AI
2:03:27
correctly, AI would have said, oh, your grammar
2:03:31
is incorrect.
2:03:32
Because we wanted that art.
2:03:34
We thought it was great.
2:03:35
He could have X'd that out in Photoshop
2:03:37
and put in the right grammar.
2:03:40
But you're right.
2:03:41
He was lazy.
2:03:42
It says, you're Body Double.
2:03:44
But it should have said, you're a Body
2:03:47
Double.
2:03:48
And he didn't do that and was also
2:03:50
not aligned properly.
2:03:52
So he was lazy.
2:03:53
It could have been shifted a little to
2:03:54
the right.
2:03:55
He would have had a winner.
2:03:58
He would have had a winner.
2:03:59
That was our first choice.
2:04:00
It was.
2:04:01
Because it was funny.
2:04:02
Yeah, yeah.
2:04:02
Because, yeah, it was very no agenda, very
2:04:04
funny.
2:04:06
And he was lazy.
2:04:08
What can you say?
2:04:10
By the way, on the Screw Worm thing,
2:04:12
I got a note from a rancher, Rancher
2:04:15
Austin is his name, and he said this
2:04:19
whole Screw Worm thing is a Psy-Op.
2:04:23
The Psy-Op to raise the price of
2:04:26
beef.
2:04:29
And I think he's probably right about that.
2:04:33
Could be.
2:04:34
Yeah, the narrative that the Mexican heard is
2:04:36
over.
2:04:36
But didn't you get the whole story?
2:04:39
Not from me and my conspiracy guys, but
2:04:42
your buddy, the famous Texas Slim?
2:04:45
Is he being Psy-Oped?
2:04:46
Is that what you're making the claim?
2:04:48
No, I'm saying that as we were eating
2:04:51
beef and drinking wine, I may have misunderstood
2:04:55
where he said, oh, that whole new world,
2:04:58
new Screw Worm, that's real.
2:05:01
And I might have misunderstood his irony.
2:05:08
That the narrative.
2:05:10
The way you presented it was possibly ironic.
2:05:13
No, no.
2:05:14
That is not the way I presented it.
2:05:15
But now that this rancher says, hey, this
2:05:18
is a Psy-Op, I'm like, ah, maybe
2:05:23
I misunderstood what Slim was saying.
2:05:25
So I'm going to call him about that
2:05:26
and then get the full detail.
2:05:28
Didn't the Texas Slim also say that the
2:05:30
herd count was down and they were having
2:05:32
issues?
2:05:33
Yes, that is true.
2:05:35
That is true.
2:05:35
Well, that would increase the price of beef
2:05:38
for sure.
2:05:39
Yes.
2:05:39
Well, that's mainly because we just have commodity
2:05:41
cowboys and people don't care anymore about ranching
2:05:44
and all of the young people are selling
2:05:46
their parents ranch because they don't want to
2:05:49
pay the inheritance tax.
2:05:51
And it's a pain in the butt.
2:05:52
And ranching is hard.
2:05:53
And they'd rather learn to code.
2:05:55
Code.
2:05:56
Code.
2:05:56
That's the bottom line.
2:05:58
So other pieces of art.
2:05:59
Yes.
2:05:59
I like the Screw Worm.
2:06:00
That was a no.
2:06:02
Was there anything else?
2:06:05
I don't think there was anything else that
2:06:07
we really...
2:06:08
You kind of like your new AI girlfriend,
2:06:10
but it was messy by Nestworks.
2:06:12
There's a lot of messiness.
2:06:14
Yeah, it was messy.
2:06:15
It was messy.
2:06:16
And then you also like Putin red carpet,
2:06:18
but I'm like, this is another...
2:06:19
I did like Putin red carpet because I
2:06:20
thought the cartooning of Putin, the caricature-ish
2:06:26
nature of the Putin character walking the red
2:06:28
carpet was really pretty good.
2:06:31
It was, but...
2:06:34
No, you vetoed that.
2:06:36
I did.
2:06:37
Anyway, that's pretty much the discussion we have
2:06:40
every single show day.
2:06:42
After we're done, after we do the credits,
2:06:44
after we...
2:06:44
Yeah, we do the credits, and then we
2:06:47
select the art, and then we do the
2:06:49
title.
2:06:49
That's how it goes.
2:06:50
And you just heard the whole conversation in
2:06:52
condensed form, because we really argue and throw
2:06:54
stuff at each other.
2:06:55
Yeah.
2:06:56
Yeah.
2:06:57
So now we'd like to thank the financial...
2:07:01
The treasure part of Time, Talents, and Treasure.
2:07:04
People who supported us financially.
2:07:06
And we had a new promotion, which you
2:07:08
launched without even talking to me about it.
2:07:11
Yeah, I know I've done this a couple
2:07:13
of times now.
2:07:15
We had discussed it.
2:07:16
I have to do that.
2:07:17
Why don't you explain exactly what the promotion
2:07:21
is?
2:07:21
Well, we did talk about it, by the
2:07:23
way.
2:07:23
It wasn't like you were completely in the
2:07:25
dark, because we had discussed on the show
2:07:27
the idea of naming, giving a no agenda
2:07:30
secretary generalship out as a kind of a
2:07:37
token title.
2:07:38
And you can be secretary...
2:07:40
And we talked about it after the show
2:07:42
once too, about how to do it, and
2:07:43
it should be state by state.
2:07:45
And I decided that's probably not a good
2:07:47
idea, because it limits people that are in
2:07:49
the populous states.
2:07:51
And so I just said it should be
2:07:53
open-ended.
2:07:54
You can make yourself secretary general of anything,
2:07:56
including the United Nations, under the no agenda
2:08:01
banner.
2:08:03
And so the offering is you can become
2:08:08
secretary general and an executive producer for $500.
2:08:13
And you get to pick where...
2:08:16
Secretary general of what?
2:08:17
And I suggested in the newsletter, Botswana.
2:08:20
You can be secretary general of the United
2:08:22
States.
2:08:23
You can be secretary general of Cincinnati.
2:08:26
But it doesn't matter.
2:08:27
How about the Hill Country?
2:08:28
Secretary general of the Hill Country.
2:08:29
You could be secretary general of the Hill
2:08:31
Country.
2:08:33
And it's just, it puts that title where
2:08:36
it belongs.
2:08:37
And now does this come with a certificate
2:08:39
of authenticity?
2:08:40
Oh, the certificate, yes.
2:08:41
Jay is trying to outdo herself.
2:08:46
So the certificates will probably go out at
2:08:47
the end of the month, because she now
2:08:50
wants to...
2:08:51
the thing, the design is going to be
2:08:53
slightly different than our other stuff.
2:08:55
It's always, everyone's been somewhat different.
2:08:57
But this is going to have a big,
2:08:59
a giant wax seal at the bottom.
2:09:03
Oh, nice.
2:09:04
That has the ITM signet ring thing, but
2:09:08
bigger.
2:09:09
She's ordered a giant version.
2:09:12
Did she order a giant ring to make
2:09:14
it?
2:09:14
No, it's just, it's a stamp.
2:09:16
Cool.
2:09:19
Stamp.
2:09:19
I had to get the art from Paul
2:09:21
Couture to her so she could get this
2:09:24
thing produced.
2:09:25
She found a guy.
2:09:26
First of all, I got into an argument.
2:09:28
No, I don't think it's not a good
2:09:29
idea.
2:09:29
For one thing, who's going to make these
2:09:31
things?
2:09:31
And every time we have a discussion with
2:09:35
her, where I tell her it can't be
2:09:37
done, within five minutes, she has to vendor.
2:09:42
I appreciate Jay for this.
2:09:44
She's on her phone.
2:09:45
Okay, can't be done.
2:09:46
Let me see.
2:09:47
I found a guy who will do it
2:09:49
for you.
2:09:50
Now, does she preface it?
2:09:51
Or does she end it with Boomer?
2:09:53
Does she?
2:09:53
Oh, I can get that done.
2:09:55
She knows better.
2:09:56
So yes, I'm looking at the troll room.
2:09:58
Secretary General of Boobs.
2:10:01
Yes, definitely a possibility.
2:10:03
Secretary General of Boobs.
2:10:05
That would be a gem.
2:10:07
Secretary General of Uranus.
2:10:09
Yes, all of these are completely valid.
2:10:11
They're all possibilities.
2:10:12
They're all valid.
2:10:13
All valid.
2:10:13
So Steve Miller came in from Aledo, Texas.
2:10:16
Steve loves us and he supported us with
2:10:19
$2,500, not stable coins, actual digital money.
2:10:25
And here's what he said.
2:10:27
We love your fantastic insights and commentary.
2:10:31
Is it possible there's still uncertainty whether your
2:10:33
three-by-three intro was or wasn't on
2:10:35
The Dating Game?
2:10:36
If so, season of reveal.
2:10:38
Herb Albert, Spanish for you on The Dating
2:10:40
Game.
2:10:40
Yes, we did deconstruct that.
2:10:42
You must have missed that.
2:10:44
Over the last couple of weeks on my
2:10:45
drive home from work, I found each of
2:10:47
you making me laugh out loud.
2:10:49
With the pathetic donation levels recently, I felt
2:10:52
like I might be running out of time
2:10:53
to make things right in our relationship.
2:10:56
Please de-douche me.
2:10:59
You've been de-douched.
2:11:01
And also please de-douche my son, Andrew,
2:11:04
who hit me in the mouth during COVID.
2:11:07
You've been de-douched.
2:11:09
And please split my donation to make us
2:11:12
both overdue and loyal instantites.
2:11:15
Names TBD, ITM, Steve Miller from Aledo, Texas.
2:11:22
Oh, so is he not on the list
2:11:24
because he's got a TBD there?
2:11:27
Well, he didn't mention Secretary General.
2:11:30
Let me just double check.
2:11:35
It says he came in at the right
2:11:37
time.
2:11:38
He can go pick one up later.
2:11:40
He's not on the list, so he can
2:11:42
definitely pick one up later.
2:11:43
OK, so he's got the name.
2:11:45
OK, we'll knight him when he feels like
2:11:46
it.
2:11:47
Yes.
2:11:48
Peter Fantino's up next.
2:11:50
He's in Eustis, Florida.
2:11:53
Eustis, huh?
2:11:54
Sounds right.
2:11:55
Came in with a thousand.
2:11:57
Whoa.
2:11:57
In the morning, boys.
2:11:59
First time donation.
2:12:01
I've been listening since the election and thought
2:12:03
it was time to pony up.
2:12:07
My name will be Sir Peter Jockey of
2:12:10
the Mountains.
2:12:11
Dinner is Beef Wellington.
2:12:14
He's just knighting himself.
2:12:15
Yes.
2:12:15
He wants Beef Wellington and a shaken dirty
2:12:19
martini.
2:12:21
Do you want olives with that?
2:12:22
So I got chewed out by one of
2:12:24
our famous, more famous executive producers.
2:12:28
Oh, executive or associate executive?
2:12:31
Yeah, that guy.
2:12:32
Yeah.
2:12:34
The most, one of our most famous.
2:12:37
And so he says that he was aghast.
2:12:41
And so was his wife, as a matter
2:12:43
of fact.
2:12:43
Oh, goodness.
2:12:44
I've never heard of an espresso martini.
2:12:47
And that was rather odd.
2:12:49
I don't understand why anyone, why would I
2:12:52
have heard of such a horrible drink?
2:12:55
Well, if you get out of the San
2:12:56
Francisco Bay Area where you have the drink
2:13:00
you have, I forget, can't even remember the
2:13:01
name of it, which is this coffee booze
2:13:05
drink that we have in San Francisco.
2:13:07
Coffee booze, it's called the coffee booze drink.
2:13:09
The coffee booze drink.
2:13:10
Also known as an Irish coffee, maybe?
2:13:12
An Irish coffee.
2:13:14
This is invented at a place in San
2:13:16
Francisco.
2:13:16
You can go there and get them.
2:13:19
And so that's, to me, was, you know,
2:13:22
and then there's this espresso martini.
2:13:24
It's been around for a long time.
2:13:27
Ask the animal, though.
2:13:29
I'll ask Ara.
2:13:30
Hold on a second.
2:13:31
Ask her when it came out, when it
2:13:32
was invented and where it was popular.
2:13:35
The espresso martini.
2:13:39
Oh, the espresso martini.
2:13:40
It's such a fun drink.
2:13:41
Vodka, coffee liqueur, fresh espresso, and a touch
2:13:45
of simple syrup.
2:13:46
Shaken until frothy and served with those iconic
2:13:49
coffee beans on top.
2:13:50
Here it comes.
2:13:52
Ah, I interrupted her.
2:13:56
Fun fact, it was invented in the 1980s
2:13:59
in London by a bartender for a model
2:14:01
who wanted something to wake her up and
2:14:04
mess her up.
2:14:06
Fun fact.
2:14:08
Fun fact.
2:14:10
You haven't been out of the house since
2:14:11
the 80s.
2:14:12
It makes total sense.
2:14:17
Onward.
2:14:18
Onward.
2:14:20
Skylar Firestone.
2:14:21
Ah, that sounds like a DJ name.
2:14:24
Skylar Firestone in the morning with everybody.
2:14:26
Z100.
2:14:27
That's in Texas, Liberty Hill.
2:14:29
51538.
2:14:30
I see no note from Skylar.
2:14:32
So I see nothing.
2:14:33
So Skylar will get a double up karma.
2:14:36
You've got karma.
2:14:42
You can do the next one because I
2:14:43
have a note for the one after that.
2:14:45
Yes, Sir Ahab from Mandeville, Louisiana, 500.
2:14:49
And he's in on the program.
2:14:50
Hey, guys, it's Sir Ahab, Knight of the
2:14:52
Seven Seas.
2:14:52
It's been a spell.
2:14:54
I'd like to be Secretary General of the
2:14:56
Pacific Fleet.
2:14:58
Thanks for all you do.
2:15:00
That's a good one.
2:15:03
All right.
2:15:05
We're going to have to figure out some
2:15:06
way to announce these things properly.
2:15:08
We do have the people mentioned, but we
2:15:10
probably don't have their titles.
2:15:12
That's going to, I'm not sure how to
2:15:14
do that.
2:15:14
But we have, now we have Justine Palmer
2:15:17
in Bozeman, Montana.
2:15:18
It came with 33343.
2:15:21
And this is interesting because I first put
2:15:24
her name down.
2:15:25
This is, I have the note and I
2:15:27
sent it over to Jay.
2:15:29
I first thought it was Justin.
2:15:32
And then I went back and looked and
2:15:35
I said, wait a minute.
2:15:36
This is not a signature or handwriting of
2:15:40
any known male.
2:15:42
And I look, oh, Justine, that makes sense.
2:15:46
Wow.
2:15:46
You're such a sleuth.
2:15:48
Well, the thing is, it brought me to
2:15:50
this idea that women are more into precision
2:15:57
than men.
2:16:01
Okay.
2:16:02
I just, I'm trying to develop this into
2:16:05
some sort of thinking, because during World War
2:16:06
II, when the men were all fighting, the
2:16:10
factories of the United States were all people
2:16:13
by women, a lot of them.
2:16:14
And a lot of them became precision engineers
2:16:17
and precision mechanics and all this sort of
2:16:20
thing.
2:16:21
And it just fascinates me now that I
2:16:23
start to think about it, because the women
2:16:26
are not credited with this capability.
2:16:31
I don't know.
2:16:32
I found it interesting.
2:16:34
And the note triggered this, but here's her
2:16:36
note.
2:16:37
Donation note.
2:16:37
Thank you for the best podcast in the
2:16:39
universe.
2:16:40
And then she's got a birthday shout out
2:16:41
for Chris Illuminati, Jensen.
2:16:45
Separate explanation.
2:16:46
No need to read, but I'm going to
2:16:48
read it anyway, because it's about football.
2:16:51
Previously had mentioned you did not receive any
2:16:53
clothing commemorating the most recent college football championship
2:16:56
winners from the FBS or FCS, D2, et
2:17:00
cetera.
2:17:01
She knows what all that means.
2:17:02
Although you have now received Ohio State representation
2:17:06
and people promised Florida, I never got anything.
2:17:09
I even closed some Montana State University Bobcats
2:17:13
apparel.
2:17:15
Which is a nice piece, by the way.
2:17:18
After a 15 and 0 season, unfortunately, the
2:17:20
Bobcats fell short of the 2024 FCS National
2:17:24
Championship game, but I couldn't pass on the
2:17:27
opportunity to send some D1 AAA FCS love
2:17:31
your direction.
2:17:33
There you go.
2:17:35
Nice.
2:17:36
By the way, I concur on precision.
2:17:39
I know many female pilots, helicopter pilots, especially
2:17:43
who are extremely good.
2:17:44
And that's precision work.
2:17:47
In fact, all.
2:17:47
Yeah, I just think it's there.
2:17:49
I think it just dawned on me looking
2:17:51
at her handwriting that it was, it's an
2:17:54
underrated characteristic of women in general.
2:17:58
Underrated.
2:17:59
That's right.
2:17:59
Is Mimi still there?
2:18:00
Can you, can you compliment her on her
2:18:02
precision?
2:18:03
No, she crashed a car into a tree.
2:18:05
No, I'm kidding.
2:18:09
Are you though?
2:18:13
She's an L.A. She's a good driver.
2:18:15
She's an excellent driver.
2:18:17
Maybe that's the reason that we mock female
2:18:19
drivers because.
2:18:20
Because they're so good.
2:18:21
Because they're so good.
2:18:23
Because they're a little too precise for a
2:18:27
male's taste.
2:18:28
Cut in here.
2:18:29
No, not cutting in there.
2:18:32
Come on.
2:18:33
Cut in.
2:18:33
There's a ton of raw.
2:18:35
You blew it.
2:18:38
Justin Proulx, Proulx, P-R-O-L-X,
2:18:42
P-R-U-L-X, Proulx.
2:18:43
I think it's Proulx or something.
2:18:45
Proulx might be Proulx.
2:18:46
It's a funny way of pronouncing that.
2:18:47
I don't have it.
2:18:48
Well, he's right up the road about an
2:18:49
hour.
2:18:49
Canyon Lake, Texas, 333.33. ITM gents, thanks
2:18:53
for keeping us grounded with amazing M5M analysis
2:18:55
every week.
2:18:56
It was time to donate when I received
2:18:58
my new Delta Reserve Amex.
2:19:01
Made with 33% metal from a retired
2:19:05
Boeing 747.
2:19:07
Well, that sounds like a cool product.
2:19:10
Yeah, I'd say.
2:19:11
Take a look at this.
2:19:12
Unless it's blue, that's kind of lame.
2:19:14
Let me see.
2:19:16
Delta Reserve Amex.
2:19:19
Let me see what it looks like.
2:19:21
While you're doing that, why don't you give
2:19:22
him some health karma for the wife.
2:19:24
Yeah, she has a broken back.
2:19:25
She has a broken back, definitely.
2:19:27
Here we go.
2:19:28
You've got karma.
2:19:32
It's purple.
2:19:34
It's purple.
2:19:36
Purple?
2:19:36
Yeah, it's purple.
2:19:40
Okay.
2:19:40
Up next is Baz, B-A-Z-Z,
2:19:43
with a capital Z, the first one.
2:19:45
Anyway, 333.
2:19:46
Baz from sunny Singapore.
2:19:48
Woo, look at that.
2:19:49
Nice.
2:19:50
Yeah.
2:19:51
All right, Baz.
2:19:52
We need more Singaporeans listening to the show.
2:19:54
They can all speak English.
2:19:55
That's actually on Tina's bucket list, Singapore.
2:19:58
She really wants to visit Singapore.
2:20:00
Oh, I've been there.
2:20:02
Yes.
2:20:02
And I would recommend it as a great
2:20:05
place for a vacation.
2:20:06
It's extremely safe, super clean.
2:20:09
It's a fascist state.
2:20:10
You have to know that.
2:20:11
You can't spit gum out.
2:20:14
You can't chew gum.
2:20:15
You can, I mean, you can, but you
2:20:17
really can't.
2:20:18
You have to bit or swallow it.
2:20:21
But it's got great food, terrific food.
2:20:24
It's pretty and great markets.
2:20:29
I would highly recommend Singapore as a vacation
2:20:32
retreat.
2:20:33
Is there any, can we get any garments
2:20:37
there?
2:20:38
Custom-made garments?
2:20:39
You know, I never bought any clothes there.
2:20:41
I don't think it's on the same league
2:20:44
as Korea or Taiwan.
2:20:46
Zadock Brown III in Pukalani, Hawaii, 315.85.
2:20:52
And he says, in the morning, gents.
2:20:54
And we say in the morning to you,
2:20:56
Zadock Brown III.
2:20:57
Thank you.
2:21:00
Anonymous in Deckerville, Michigan.
2:21:04
He becomes associate executive producer 26767.
2:21:09
Anonymous, ITM, Trump only jobs.
2:21:12
Karma, please.
2:21:13
Needed for promotion.
2:21:15
God to bless.
2:21:17
Jobs, jobs, jobs.
2:21:20
You've got karma.
2:21:24
And we're on to our next associate executive
2:21:26
producer, Kurt Kiefer from Austin, Texas.
2:21:28
The Texans are really supporting the show lately.
2:21:32
26322.
2:21:33
And he says, Kurt Kiefer of Austin, Texas.
2:21:38
Commodore of smooth Texas highways.
2:21:40
Gents, my smoking hot, brilliant, free-thinking wife,
2:21:43
Beth.
2:21:43
And I love you guys.
2:21:45
We listen to the show live while we're
2:21:47
cooking dinner together.
2:21:48
It's a fun activity.
2:21:49
Highly recommended.
2:21:50
Even for those cheap-ass couples who don't
2:21:53
donate to the show.
2:21:54
Get a clue.
2:21:56
Donate.
2:21:57
Anyway, this donation makes me a knight.
2:21:59
I'm making it on the day before Beth
2:22:01
and I embark on a safari to Tanzania.
2:22:05
Beth suggested that I get my knight donation
2:22:07
in before leaving, as she thinks the title
2:22:09
would look cool on my urn, should it
2:22:12
be trampled by an elephant.
2:22:19
Or mauled by other big game on our
2:22:22
trip.
2:22:22
Yes, I concur.
2:22:24
How about dubbing me Knight Kurt of the
2:22:26
Nongorongoro...
2:22:28
Nongorongoro...
2:22:29
No.
2:22:30
Nongorongoro.
2:22:31
Yes.
2:22:31
Knight Kurt of the Nongorongoro crater.
2:22:34
If that doesn't roll off the tongue, perhaps
2:22:36
Knight Kurt of the Serengeti.
2:22:38
You guys pick.
2:22:39
I like the Nongorongoro because it'd be fun
2:22:42
for me to try.
2:22:43
Let's keep it simple for the roundtable.
2:22:45
Zebra schnitzel.
2:22:46
Hippo hot links.
2:22:47
A pilsner or two.
2:22:49
And just one.
2:22:49
Just one.
2:22:51
Camel filter cigarette.
2:22:53
Love you guys, the producers, and boobs, says
2:22:57
Kurt.
2:22:57
Great note, Kurt.
2:22:58
Thank you.
2:23:00
Camel made...
2:23:02
Filtered?
2:23:03
Yeah.
2:23:03
They're kind of...
2:23:04
They taste icky.
2:23:05
What I remember.
2:23:07
Tastes a bit like a palm oil.
2:23:11
James Green.
2:23:13
He's in...
2:23:15
Bethland.
2:23:16
Bethland, North Carolina.
2:23:18
Bethland.
2:23:19
F-land.
2:23:20
F-U-F-land.
2:23:22
North Carolina.
2:23:23
$233.99. Adam and John say, I'm a
2:23:27
plumber with 25 mass communications...
2:23:30
With 25 mass communication degree.
2:23:33
Go figure.
2:23:34
Dirty work for a living and I love
2:23:36
it.
2:23:37
Thanks for supporting...
2:23:39
Thanks for reporting on the reporters.
2:23:41
Thanks for reporting on the reporters.
2:23:43
Does anyone hear Dr. Huckabee in NPR's Alicia
2:23:48
Roscoe?
2:23:50
Dr. Huckabee.
2:23:51
Yeah, the mom.
2:23:53
Huckstabee.
2:23:53
Huckstabee.
2:23:53
Oh, Huckstabee.
2:23:54
Huckstabee, not Huckabee.
2:23:55
Oh, she's...
2:23:56
Oh, yes.
2:23:56
Huckstabee, the Bill Cosby character.
2:23:58
His wife.
2:23:59
In the way Alicia talks.
2:24:00
Dr. Huckstable.
2:24:01
Yes.
2:24:02
No, Dr. Huckstable.
2:24:03
Wasn't that the wife?
2:24:05
No, no, Dr. Huckstable.
2:24:06
That was Cosby, wasn't it?
2:24:08
Yeah.
2:24:08
I thought his wife was the doctor.
2:24:10
Oh, okay.
2:24:11
Well, I don't know.
2:24:12
I don't know.
2:24:12
What do we know?
2:24:14
Somebody there does know.
2:24:17
But yeah, there's a sound.
2:24:19
Alicia Roscoe has...
2:24:22
I think she just doesn't sound like a
2:24:25
professional broadcaster.
2:24:26
Aisha or is it Aisha?
2:24:28
Aisha.
2:24:29
Aisha.
2:24:30
Aisha.
2:24:31
Yeah, Aisha.
2:24:32
Okay, Aisha.
2:24:33
Anyway, suffer and succotash, go Florida ounces.
2:24:36
Suffer and succotash.
2:24:38
I'm Scott.
2:24:43
Simon.
2:24:43
Sam Trudell is in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
2:24:46
218.92 ITM.
2:24:48
He says, I just realized my 33rd birthday
2:24:50
is on a show day.
2:24:51
Time to donate.
2:24:52
Thanks to Adam W in Milwaukee for hitting
2:24:55
me in the mouth.
2:24:56
Please deduce.
2:24:58
You've been deduced.
2:25:01
And I didn't realize he asked this.
2:25:02
He says, I request a Sharpton hubris.
2:25:05
And that's from Sam Trudell.
2:25:07
I don't, you know, it's part of one
2:25:09
of these medleys.
2:25:10
So I hope I got it.
2:25:11
Let me see.
2:25:11
Tonight is the measure of whether the country
2:25:15
begins in the state of Wisconsin, a national
2:25:19
drive to push back or whether we have
2:25:23
more to go to build a movement of
2:25:26
resistance.
2:25:27
No, that's resist we much.
2:25:28
I don't remember what, where hubris is.
2:25:32
Hubris.
2:25:34
Let me see.
2:25:37
I like the guy did this.
2:25:39
Let me just try.
2:25:40
Let me try this.
2:25:41
Maybe this one.
2:25:42
Thanks to you, Ed.
2:25:45
Is this crown hog day two?
2:25:48
We are watching.
2:25:49
That was Attorney General Eric Holder's ABDs about
2:25:54
some Republicans at home are already beating the
2:25:59
drums of war.
2:26:00
Today, the Pentagon refuted that claim.
2:26:03
And he said the American people do not
2:26:06
want him to quote dwindling.
2:26:08
They do not want him dwindling his thoughts.
2:26:11
You can get a gig as a court
2:26:13
contortionist, intravenous fluids and pills coated with gelatin.
2:26:20
OK, I don't I don't know which one
2:26:22
it is.
2:26:22
I have to look that one up.
2:26:23
Sorry.
2:26:24
But thank you very much.
2:26:26
Eli, the coffee guy to 0821.
2:26:28
There he is.
2:26:30
Nomadic coffee, by the way.
2:26:32
It's interesting how recent diplomatic efforts by America
2:26:37
to broker peace have gone unnoticed by the
2:26:41
M5M.
2:26:43
It's not that interesting.
2:26:44
It's it's what you expect, whether as sure
2:26:47
by John and Armenia to Cambodia and Thailand.
2:26:51
Did you see?
2:26:52
But the one thing that wasn't reported, you
2:26:54
see the 5000 Cambodian Buddhist monks.
2:26:59
Have you seen this?
2:27:00
No.
2:27:01
Yeah.
2:27:01
A bunch of candidates, like 5000 of them
2:27:04
or more came out in a giant group.
2:27:07
They took a picture of it, say we
2:27:09
we nominate Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.
2:27:14
The really Cambodian Buddhist monks.
2:27:17
Yeah.
2:27:18
5000 of them.
2:27:19
Wow.
2:27:21
And nobody covered it.
2:27:23
Look that up while you're reading this note.
2:27:25
Fox, I think, covered it.
2:27:27
Well, the.
2:27:29
Yeah, look up monks, Cambodian monks, promote Trump
2:27:34
for Nobel and you'll probably find it.
2:27:37
Or maybe your buddy there in the office.
2:27:40
I'm tired of her.
2:27:41
She'll know.
2:27:45
Anyway, Cambodia, Pakistan, Thailand or India, Pakistan, this
2:27:49
cynic in me questions.
2:27:51
Were these brief flare ups of conflict manufactured
2:27:54
with the purpose of allowing for a U
2:27:57
.S. brokered resolution?
2:27:58
Seems unlikely.
2:27:59
We don't have that much power.
2:28:01
Or is Trump trying to make peace profitable
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again?
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That seems likely.
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Well, you were wrong.
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Wrong again.
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It was not 5,000 monks.
2:28:30
It was 70,000 monks.
2:28:33
70,000 monks just broke their vows of
2:28:37
silence to nominate Trump for the Nobel.
2:28:41
Dear Mr. President Trump, we are standing here
2:28:44
today with hearts full of appreciation.
2:28:48
Today, 70,000 Cambodian Buddhist monks are wholeheartedly
2:28:54
supportive of our Cambodian Prime Minister to nominate
2:29:00
you for the Nobel Peace Prize.
2:29:02
Please accept, Mr. President.
2:29:06
70,000 monks can't be wrong.
2:29:10
So you got 70,000 monks.
2:29:12
Well, there weren't 70,000 there.
2:29:15
But no, but there was a lot there.
2:29:17
It was a lot of monks.
2:29:19
A lot of monks.
2:29:19
They're all dressed in red.
2:29:21
And this got no coverage.
2:29:23
What?
2:29:24
Orange.
2:29:25
Oh, is it orange?
2:29:26
I don't remember.
2:29:27
They might have been Hare Krishnas.
2:29:29
I don't know, man.
2:29:30
Whatever the case, they're all bald.
2:29:31
Yeah, they were bald for sure.
2:29:33
And it was weird enough as news and
2:29:37
just a visual was screwball enough.
2:29:39
Good visual, definitely.
2:29:41
You'd think somebody in the mainstream media in
2:29:43
New York, anybody would have taken a picture
2:29:45
and run it in their paper.
2:29:47
No, nobody except Jesse Waters even mentioned it.
2:29:52
Yeah.
2:29:52
That's pathetic.
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A little bit of a bit of a
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of the water.
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Vigor Marine says the historic conversion is complete.
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The Wenatchee will rejoin the Seattle Bainbridge run
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and welcome back passengers once sea trials are
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complete.
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All right.
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So we've got a battery powered ferry.
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What could possibly go wrong two months later?
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Washington State Ferries has pulled its newly renovated
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hybrid electric ferry from service less than one
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month since the big renovation.
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We're told the Wenatchee had a mechanical issue
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yesterday while docking at Coleman Dock.
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It's not clear exactly what that issue was
2:33:44
or how long it'll be out of service.
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The Wenatchee was added to the Seattle Bainbridge
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route in July after its conversion to hybrid
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electric power.
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Yeah, of course.
2:33:54
What could possibly go wrong?
2:33:55
Battery powered ferries.
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That's just not a good idea.
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You put up especially those explosive batteries in
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the water, sea water environment.
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Yeah, that's a smart move.
2:34:06
Yeah.
2:34:06
What if it's such a bad idea?
2:34:08
You know, there was a Peter Thiel.
2:34:10
We talked about him earlier, co-founder.
2:34:13
He's from the PayPal Mafia.
2:34:15
And of course, the funder of killing machines
2:34:20
like Palantir, which although we have a lot
2:34:24
of testimony to the contrary, people believe that
2:34:28
Palantir runs the world and is tracking your
2:34:31
every move.
2:34:32
They certainly have been successful at some government
2:34:35
contracts and very unsuccessful at targeting terrorists in
2:34:39
Palestine because they killed a lot of the
2:34:41
wrong people.
2:34:42
But that doesn't matter because Peter Thiel is
2:34:45
a force to be reckoned with.
2:34:47
And the New York Times interviewed him about
2:34:51
a month ago, and I paid no attention
2:34:54
to what I saw come by my feed.
2:34:56
But the guy is so annoying to listen
2:34:58
to because he's like the Sam Altman.
2:35:04
Yeah, it seems that the entire PayPal Mafia
2:35:08
talks like Musk is the same way.
2:35:11
But Altman wasn't part of the PayPal Mafia,
2:35:13
was he?
2:35:13
No, I know.
2:35:14
But this seems like the PayPal Mafia all
2:35:15
talks that way.
2:35:16
I think it's a Silicon Valley.
2:35:18
It could be a million thing.
2:35:21
Just to sound interesting, I'm deep in thought
2:35:24
about this.
2:35:30
And he is a transhumanist, as you will
2:35:33
hear in a moment.
2:35:35
He's trans?
2:35:37
Well, he's gay.
2:35:39
And you remember his boyfriend fell off the
2:35:41
balcony and died in Miami a year or
2:35:44
so ago?
2:35:44
I don't remember that.
2:35:45
Yeah, it was kind of a bad, bad
2:35:47
vibe.
2:35:48
Yeah, fell off the balcony.
2:35:52
But the New York Times guy sits down
2:35:54
with him and he starts asking him about
2:35:57
transhumanism, approaches it from a very innocuous way,
2:36:02
really about, you know, do you think the
2:36:04
human race should survive?
2:36:06
Or do you think that your machine should
2:36:07
run everything?
2:36:09
And it took an unexpected turn.
2:36:11
You would prefer the human race to endure,
2:36:13
right?
2:36:14
You're hesitating.
2:36:16
Well, and I should mention, I cut out
2:36:18
a lot of the five second pauses.
2:36:21
You would prefer the human, the two of
2:36:23
us both like to brag about our editing
2:36:26
skills.
2:36:27
It doesn't take a lot of skill because
2:36:28
you look at the waveform.
2:36:29
No, it doesn't take a lot of skill.
2:36:30
Look at all this white space.
2:36:32
Just cut it out.
2:36:34
You would prefer the human race to endure,
2:36:36
right?
2:36:37
You're hesitating.
2:36:38
Well, I, yes.
2:36:39
I don't know.
2:36:40
I would, I would.
2:36:43
This is a long hesitation.
2:36:46
There's so many questions.
2:36:47
Should the human race survive?
2:36:51
Yes.
2:36:52
But, but I also would, I also would
2:36:58
like us to, to radically solve these problems.
2:37:01
And, and so, you know, it's always, I
2:37:03
don't know, you know, yeah, transhumanism is this,
2:37:09
you know, the ideal was this radical transformation
2:37:12
where your human natural body gets transformed into
2:37:17
an immortal body.
2:37:19
And there's a critique of, let's say the
2:37:22
trans people in a sexual context, or I
2:37:25
don't know, transvestite is someone who changes their
2:37:29
clothes and cross dresses.
2:37:31
And a transsexual is someone where you change
2:37:33
your, I don't know, penis into a vagina.
2:37:36
And we can then debate how well those
2:37:38
surgeries work.
2:37:39
But we want more transsexuals.
2:37:41
You should have debated that.
2:37:42
How well do those surgeries work, Peter?
2:37:45
Where you change your, I don't know, penis
2:37:47
into a vagina.
2:37:48
And we can then debate how well those
2:37:50
surgeries work.
2:37:51
But we want more transformation than that.
2:37:54
It's the critique is not that it's weird
2:37:56
and unnatural.
2:37:57
It's man, it's so pathetically little.
2:37:59
And okay, we want more than cross dressing
2:38:01
or changing your sex organs.
2:38:03
We want you to be able to change
2:38:05
your heart and change your mind and change
2:38:08
your whole, your whole body.
2:38:10
And then Orthodox Christianity, by the way, the
2:38:14
critique Orthodox Christianity has of this is these
2:38:16
things don't go far enough.
2:38:18
Like the transhumanism is just changing your body.
2:38:21
But you also need to transform your soul.
2:38:23
And you need to transform your whole self.
2:38:26
What?
2:38:28
I must alert Pastor Jimmy.
2:38:30
He's not going far enough.
2:38:32
We need to transform our bodies.
2:38:36
It's Christianity.
2:38:38
You can imagine this got my attention.
2:38:41
And let's dive in, shall we?
2:38:44
I generally agree with your, what I think
2:38:48
is your beliefs.
2:38:50
He agrees?
2:38:51
With his beliefs?
2:38:52
Yes.
2:38:52
Oh, yeah.
2:38:53
This is the New York Times.
2:38:54
That religion should be a friend to science
2:38:58
and ideas of scientific progress.
2:39:00
I think any idea of divine providence has
2:39:03
to encompass the fact that we have progressed
2:39:05
and achieved and done things that would have
2:39:08
been unimaginable.
2:39:09
Okay, stop right there.
2:39:10
This is great.
2:39:12
First of all, interviewers should not be.
2:39:16
Agreeing.
2:39:16
Well, not agreeing or disagreeing.
2:39:19
But this guy's gone beyond agreeing and disagreeing.
2:39:21
He is now expressing himself.
2:39:23
Yes, he's from the sparkle.
2:39:25
Yack, yack, yack.
2:39:26
We came to listen to Peter Thiel and
2:39:29
what he thinks, not what some reporter from
2:39:33
the New York Times who's, you know, made
2:39:36
a mess of his life where he wouldn't
2:39:37
be there for at his age.
2:39:40
Yeah.
2:39:42
We don't care what you think.
2:39:44
Well, this guy, I think, is a member
2:39:45
of the sparkle clergy because he's like, oh,
2:39:47
yeah, no, I agree.
2:39:49
Yeah.
2:39:49
Anything that we do is God's, I plan.
2:39:54
Divine providence has to encompass the fact that
2:39:56
we have progressed and achieved and done things
2:40:00
that would have been unimaginable to our ancestors.
2:40:03
But it still also seems like, yeah, the
2:40:07
promise of Christianity in the end is you
2:40:09
get, you get the perfected body and the
2:40:11
perfected soul.
2:40:12
Oh, shut up.
2:40:14
He's laying out his Bible smack, man.
2:40:16
Let him, let him go.
2:40:18
What you hear Thiel say is better.
2:40:20
This guy's just there.
2:40:21
The promise of Christianity in the end is
2:40:23
you get, you get the perfected body and
2:40:26
the perfected soul through God's grace.
2:40:29
And the person who tries to do it
2:40:30
on their own with a bunch of machines
2:40:32
is likely to end up as a dystopian
2:40:35
character.
2:40:36
In hell.
2:40:38
Well, it's, let's, let's articulate this.
2:40:43
And you can have a heretical form of
2:40:45
Christianity that says something else.
2:40:48
I, I don't know.
2:40:49
I think the word nature does not occur
2:40:52
once in the old Testament.
2:40:57
Okay.
2:40:58
The word nature does not appear once in
2:41:00
the old Testament.
2:41:02
Okay.
2:41:03
I guess you could call creation, heavens and
2:41:05
earth, the world.
2:41:06
If you don't want to call it nature.
2:41:08
Okay.
2:41:08
That's, that's a point of discussion.
2:41:11
But I think there's a new Testament where
2:41:13
it appears quite a bit, especially the term
2:41:16
against nature.
2:41:18
I think the word nature does not occur
2:41:20
once in the old Testament.
2:41:22
And so, uh, you know, if you, if
2:41:24
you, you know, um, and there is, you
2:41:27
know, there is a word in which a
2:41:29
sense in which the way I understand, you
2:41:32
know, the, you know, the Judeo-Christian inspiration
2:41:35
is, it is, it is, it is, it
2:41:38
is about transcending nature.
2:41:40
It is about, he's almost done.
2:41:43
The way I understand, you know, the, you
2:41:46
know, the Judeo-Christian inspiration is, it is,
2:41:49
it is, it is, it is about transcending
2:41:52
nature.
2:41:52
It is about overcoming things.
2:41:54
And, you know, and the closest thing you
2:41:57
can say to nature is that people are
2:41:59
fallen.
2:42:00
And that that's the natural thing in a
2:42:03
Christian sense is that, um, you're messed up
2:42:06
and that's true.
2:42:08
But, um, you know, there's some ways that,
2:42:12
uh, you know, with God's help, you are
2:42:14
supposed to transcend that and overcome that.
2:42:17
Well, I now link arms with the Peter
2:42:19
Thiel haters of the world.
2:42:20
This guy is a ghoul.
2:42:23
He's a complete, all of his government contracts
2:42:26
should be ripped up.
2:42:28
What an idiot.
2:42:30
And the New York Times guy is not
2:42:32
much better.
2:42:34
No, the New York Times guy's worse.
2:42:35
Yeah.
2:42:36
It's just unbelievable.
2:42:37
Oh yeah.
2:42:37
Oh yeah.
2:42:38
Sure.
2:42:38
Okay.
2:42:39
Yeah.
2:42:39
Well, nice interpretation, Peter Thiel.
2:42:42
Well, that was a trip down nowhere.
2:42:45
Well, I thought it was quite interesting personally.
2:42:48
Uh, let's go to what Tulsi Gabbard's up
2:42:52
to.
2:42:52
Yeah.
2:42:53
She's doing a couple of things, isn't she?
2:42:54
I think this, she has to be the
2:42:57
intelligence communities, at least the bad actors in
2:43:01
the intelligence community.
2:43:02
They gotta be worried.
2:43:05
Worst nightmare.
2:43:06
Yes.
2:43:07
Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard announces today
2:43:09
that she's cutting her department by more than
2:43:12
40% to quote, root out deep state
2:43:14
actors.
2:43:14
She says the move will make the department
2:43:16
more efficient and save taxpayers north of $700
2:43:19
million per year.
2:43:21
The news comes just after she wrote security
2:43:23
clearances for 37 intelligence officials, accusing them of
2:43:27
politically weaponizing intelligence.
2:43:30
NTD's Washington correspondent, Jack Bradley has more.
2:43:32
Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard strips security
2:43:36
clearances from 37 current and former intelligence officials.
2:43:41
She also terminated any government employment or contracts
2:43:44
for them.
2:43:45
Gabbard said that she's doing this at the
2:43:47
direction of president Trump.
2:43:49
And she didn't disclose any specific acts that
2:43:51
led to the losses of clearance for each
2:43:53
person, but said that more generally, they were
2:43:55
part of a political weaponization of the intelligence
2:43:58
community, leaking classified information and bypassing normal procedures,
2:44:03
particularly in creating a false intelligence report that
2:44:06
accused Trump of colluding with Russia in the
2:44:09
2016 election.
2:44:10
They were not happy with the outcome of
2:44:12
that election.
2:44:13
And so they created this politicized, weaponized piece
2:44:16
of fake intelligence that they aided and abetted
2:44:19
in this action, this seditious conspiracy that undermined
2:44:24
our democracy, undermined our republic.
2:44:28
These are bad actors that have to be
2:44:30
rooted out.
2:44:32
Yeah, I think this is pretty good, what
2:44:35
she's doing here.
2:44:37
And I think that's why she was hired
2:44:38
was to do this stuff.
2:44:40
I think so.
2:44:41
She has a bad attitude.
2:44:44
She's not going to put up with anything.
2:44:47
Well, she's not like a bureaucrat that's in
2:44:49
it just for the, you know, so she
2:44:50
can pick up a, pick up a retirement
2:44:53
check income.
2:44:55
No, no, she's.
2:44:56
Yeah, I'm kind of liking this Tulsi business.
2:44:59
And it's still not being picked up by,
2:45:01
I'm sorry, it's still not being picked up
2:45:03
by the mainstream.
2:45:04
You know, they still keep bringing out people
2:45:06
like Susan Rice and they bring out these
2:45:08
other people and people I know around here,
2:45:11
the Democrats around here that I know that,
2:45:14
oh, yeah, well, it's a known fact that
2:45:16
Russia colluded with Trump.
2:45:17
I don't care what they say.
2:45:20
Yeah, it's California.
2:45:22
In announcing the move on X, she said
2:45:24
that a security clearance is a privilege, not
2:45:27
a right.
2:45:27
Those who betray their oath to the Constitution
2:45:30
and put their own interests before the interests
2:45:32
of the American people have broken the sacred
2:45:35
trust they promised to uphold.
2:45:37
Those who lost their security clearances can no
2:45:39
longer access classified facilities and information.
2:45:43
Back in July, Gabbard said that the intelligence
2:45:45
community did assess that in the months leading
2:45:48
up to the November 2016 election, Russia was
2:45:51
trying to interfere in the U.S. presidential
2:45:53
election by sowing discord and chaos, but repeatedly
2:45:57
stating that Russia didn't appear to have a
2:45:59
preference for either candidate and viewed both equally
2:46:02
bad for Russia's interest.
2:46:04
She then said that in December 2016, then
2:46:07
President Obama called for another intelligence assessment to
2:46:11
contradict it and claim that Russia did interfere
2:46:14
in Trump's favor.
2:46:15
There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President
2:46:19
Obama and his national security team directed the
2:46:21
creation of an intelligence community assessment that they
2:46:25
knew was false.
2:46:28
But Gabbard said that they used substandard intelligence,
2:46:31
bypassing normal procedures, and used the Steele dossier
2:46:34
as a source for the newer assessment.
2:46:37
The Steele dossier is now widely considered to
2:46:39
have been discredited.
2:46:40
Yeah, weren't they supposed to start the depositions
2:46:44
on the 19th?
2:46:46
I mean, do we even know if that
2:46:47
started at all?
2:46:49
You know, nothing's going to come of any
2:46:51
of this, except the people that lost their
2:46:53
security clearances are probably going to have to
2:46:55
go find work someplace else.
2:46:58
And, you know, who knows where.
2:47:00
And that's going to be all that's going
2:47:02
to happen.
2:47:03
They won't.
2:47:03
The Republicans are not vindictive enough to actually
2:47:07
take action.
2:47:10
No, they're not.
2:47:11
And by the way, the CIA, and you
2:47:13
know, an old report has resurfaced, and I
2:47:16
put it in the show notes, 1957, a
2:47:20
200-page report proposing that American special forces
2:47:24
should secretly infiltrate Ukraine, spark uprising, and destabilize
2:47:29
the Soviet Union from within.
2:47:33
This has been a plan by the CIA
2:47:36
and Western.
2:47:38
There was actually, they did it with the
2:47:41
Brits.
2:47:43
And there was an update to this plan
2:47:45
in 2014.
2:47:46
I mean, come on.
2:47:47
It was so obvious.
2:47:49
The outrage should be that we started all
2:47:51
this nonsense in Ukraine.
2:47:53
We don't.
2:47:54
The reason they just, that's another thing that
2:47:57
mainstream media will not do, which is.
2:48:00
No.
2:48:01
Give us the straight scoop on this stuff.
2:48:03
They just can't.
2:48:05
They're working, they're not working for the people.
2:48:08
Unlike us.
2:48:10
We work for you.
2:48:12
We work for the people.
2:48:13
We do.
2:48:14
We work for the people.
2:48:16
NPR did have a, I think I have
2:48:18
a 56 seconds.
2:48:21
NPR had this story.
2:48:22
President Trump's chief spy, Tulsi Gabbard, says she'll
2:48:25
cut her agency's budget by over 40%
2:48:28
by the end of 2025.
2:48:31
Is she the chief spy?
2:48:33
Is that really?
2:48:34
Technically.
2:48:36
Technically?
2:48:37
NPR's Jenna McLaughlin.
2:48:38
She's not really a spy.
2:48:39
You know, that's the thing.
2:48:40
She's not a spy in the sense of
2:48:42
what a spy is.
2:48:44
But it sounds cool.
2:48:45
She is a bureaucrat that heads up all
2:48:48
the spies and analysts.
2:48:50
She's the chief spy.
2:48:52
NPR's Jenna McLaughlin reports.
2:48:54
Career intelligence officials say their mission is to
2:48:56
speak truth to power.
2:48:58
However, the former Democratic lawmaker turned head of
2:49:01
the office of the director of national intelligence.
2:49:03
Wait a minute.
2:49:04
Since when is that their job?
2:49:06
Let's listen to that again.
2:49:08
2025 NPR's Jenna McLaughlin reports.
2:49:11
Career intelligence officials say their mission is to
2:49:14
speak truth to power.
2:49:15
That's bullcrap.
2:49:17
It's not their mission to speak truth to
2:49:20
power.
2:49:21
It's to subvert other powers and other nations
2:49:24
and other leaders.
2:49:25
It's not their mission.
2:49:27
However, the former Democratic lawmaker turned head of
2:49:29
the office of the director of national intelligence,
2:49:31
or ODNI, has expressed her commitment to aligning
2:49:34
the agency with President Trump's policy goals.
2:49:37
The ODNI was created after the September 11th
2:49:39
terrorist attacks to foster intelligence sharing between US
2:49:42
government agencies.
2:49:44
Gabbard says she'll slash the agency's costs by
2:49:46
over 40% by the end of September,
2:49:49
though she didn't identify specific cuts.
2:49:51
In a statement, the Democratic vice chair of
2:49:53
the Senate Intelligence Committee, Mark Warner of Virginia,
2:49:56
says he would welcome the chance to review
2:49:58
Gabbard's plans, but expresses concern, arguing Gabbard has
2:50:02
a track record of politicizing intelligence.
2:50:05
And you're listening to NPR.
2:50:07
But what?
2:50:08
What?
2:50:08
What track record?
2:50:10
Let's listen again.
2:50:11
Welcome the chance to review Gabbard's plans, but
2:50:14
expresses concern, arguing Gabbard has a track record
2:50:17
of politicizing intelligence.
2:50:18
And you're listening to NPR.
2:50:21
A track record, I tell you.
2:50:23
What track record?
2:50:23
She just got this job recently.
2:50:25
She's been in office six months.
2:50:26
A track record assumes you've been doing something
2:50:28
for years and years.
2:50:30
Track record, baby.
2:50:30
When you use it in a political sense,
2:50:31
when you say track record.
2:50:33
Track record.
2:50:34
I'm telling you, track record.
2:50:38
Well, NPR, just since you mentioned this bull
2:50:41
crap about truth to power, play this little
2:50:44
clip.
2:50:44
This is an off-the-wall clip.
2:50:46
This is the science clip I have here.
2:50:48
Where is it?
2:50:52
Um, defy.
2:50:53
It says defy.
2:50:54
This is NPR defy.
2:50:56
Now, you've got to know if you can
2:50:58
define science.
2:50:59
You can ask the robot there that your
2:51:00
buddy.
2:51:01
I'm not going to define science.
2:51:03
But listen to the definition of science from
2:51:07
NPR.
2:51:07
Science, mind you.
2:51:08
Science, science, science.
2:51:10
Science.
2:51:11
Shortwave thinks of science as an invisible force
2:51:13
showing up in your everyday life.
2:51:15
Wait, start it over.
2:51:20
Okay, here we go.
2:51:22
Shortwave thinks of science as an invisible force
2:51:25
showing up in your everyday life, powering the
2:51:29
food you eat, the medicine you use, the
2:51:32
tech in your pocket.
2:51:34
Science is approachable because it's already part of
2:51:36
your life.
2:51:38
Come explore these connections on the shortwave podcast
2:51:41
from NPR.
2:51:43
So what exactly did they just say?
2:51:46
They said science is a force.
2:51:48
A force.
2:51:50
Some sort of force that.
2:51:53
Some sort of force.
2:51:55
I'm going to read definition of science.
2:51:57
It's like the systematic study of the structure
2:52:00
and behavior of the physical and natural world
2:52:02
through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories
2:52:05
against the evidence obtained.
2:52:07
That's it.
2:52:08
That's what science is.
2:52:09
It's not a force.
2:52:11
It's a force to be reckoned with.
2:52:13
Shut up already.
2:52:14
Science.
2:52:15
It's science.
2:52:16
Yes.
2:52:17
Let's talk to NPR promoting the idea of
2:52:19
science.
2:52:20
This way you believe the science.
2:52:22
Believe the force, Luke.
2:52:24
Believe the force.
2:52:25
Well, let's talk about some science for a
2:52:27
moment with Dr. Selene Gounder.
2:52:29
Turning to your health, there's news tonight that
2:52:31
the maker of Ozempic is cutting the price
2:52:34
nearly in half for some patients.
2:52:36
The company had already cut the price of
2:52:38
Wegovy, a similar medication approved for weight loss.
2:52:42
Dr. Selene Gounder is here with more on
2:52:44
the emerging price competition over these drugs.
2:52:46
What is driving this price war, doctor?
2:52:49
John, the race is on.
2:52:51
Novo Nordisk has dominated early on with their
2:52:54
drugs Ozempic and Wegovy, but now Eli Lilly
2:52:57
with their drugs Monjaro and ZepBound are catching
2:53:00
up fast thanks to lower prices and strong
2:53:03
supply.
2:53:03
It's really about Novo Nordisk trying to regain
2:53:07
take-back market share.
2:53:09
Specifically, Novo has said this is targeted at
2:53:11
patients with type 2 diabetes who do not
2:53:14
have insurance.
2:53:14
Now, I don't know how many patients don't
2:53:17
have insurance who can afford $500 a month,
2:53:21
but that is the target audience.
2:53:22
Yeah, well, we know that it's not about
2:53:24
that.
2:53:25
We know that you're being paid to shill
2:53:27
for weight loss drugs.
2:53:28
So, and are they competing just on price
2:53:31
or is there any other thing they compete
2:53:32
on?
2:53:32
Well, they also compete on effectiveness.
2:53:35
So, there was a head-to-head study
2:53:36
published in the New England Journal of Medicine
2:53:38
looking these two companies' drugs head-to-head.
2:53:42
Over 72 weeks, people on the Lilly drug
2:53:46
lost about 20% of their body weight
2:53:48
compared to 14% body weight lost with
2:53:52
those on the Novo Nordisk drug.
2:53:54
So, there is a difference there.
2:53:55
And the degree of improvement in blood pressure,
2:53:58
diabetes, cholesterol was commensurate with proportional to the
2:54:01
amount of weight loss.
2:54:03
And we have a new side effect of
2:54:06
these drugs.
2:54:06
Yeah, I saw this.
2:54:07
A new side effect known as ozempic vulva.
2:54:12
Oh, I don't know about that.
2:54:13
I thought, you know, I was thinking of
2:54:15
the positive things going on.
2:54:16
Well, I'll tell you about this.
2:54:19
The ozempic vulva is sagging caused by loose
2:54:23
labia, loose skin in the vaginal area, wrinkles,
2:54:28
or some combination of all three if you're
2:54:30
lucky.
2:54:32
Dude.
2:54:34
Oh, God.
2:54:35
Dude, you had positive news from them?
2:54:38
You had positive news?
2:54:39
Yeah, apparently it's a cure for baldness.
2:54:42
Oh, well, good news, ladies.
2:54:45
You won't go bald.
2:54:46
Bad news.
2:54:48
Bad news.
2:54:48
You'll be dragging on the ground.
2:54:52
We have an update.
2:54:54
Of course, we need to discredit our Health
2:54:58
and Human Services Secretary and everybody that he's
2:55:00
hired.
2:55:01
Back to school season often means making sure
2:55:03
your child is up to date on vaccinations.
2:55:05
That's what it means.
2:55:06
You just remember, back to school means get
2:55:08
your shots.
2:55:08
That's what back to school means.
2:55:10
Yeah, it used to be back to school.
2:55:12
Suddenly means get vaxxed.
2:55:13
It used to mean, you know, like, get
2:55:15
your books.
2:55:16
You got to put covers on your books.
2:55:18
You got to get your eraser.
2:55:20
No, no, no, not anymore.
2:55:22
Not just backpacks.
2:55:23
Back to school means getting vaxxed.
2:55:25
And why are we going back to school
2:55:27
so soon?
2:55:27
But that's another topic.
2:55:29
Back to school season often means making sure
2:55:31
your child is up to date on vaccinations,
2:55:33
a step most schools require before students can
2:55:36
attend.
2:55:37
In the past, parents could rely on a
2:55:39
single authoritative schedule from the CDC.
2:55:41
No longer.
2:55:42
This year, the American Academy of Pediatrics has
2:55:44
released its own vaccine schedule, and it's different
2:55:47
from the government's.
2:55:49
CBS News medical contributor, Dr. Selene Gounder, is
2:55:51
here to explain.
2:55:52
Gounder.
2:55:53
Dr. Gounder, explain.
2:55:54
What is this?
2:55:55
What was the laugh tale?
2:55:57
Oh, did you hear the laugh?
2:55:58
Let's listen again.
2:56:00
CBS News medical contributor, Dr. Selene Gounder, is
2:56:02
here to explain.
2:56:04
Dr. Gounder.
2:56:05
Oh, is it before?
2:56:05
Oh, yeah, here it is.
2:56:06
Dr. Gounder.
2:56:07
There it is.
2:56:07
Oh, he's laugh telling because, you know, he's
2:56:11
like, the stupid RFK Jr. I mean, we
2:56:15
can't trust them anymore.
2:56:17
So what are we going to do?
2:56:19
Dr. Gounder, explain.
2:56:21
What is this?
2:56:21
What's this discrepancy here?
2:56:24
Yeah, so for the first time in decades,
2:56:26
pediatricians are putting out their own schedule because
2:56:29
they no longer trust the government.
2:56:30
Stop the clip.
2:56:31
Stopping the clip.
2:56:32
Because I can I'm going to predict the
2:56:34
direction of this clip.
2:56:40
Surely you just, Mr. Dvorak.
2:56:42
She's going to go on with her assertion.
2:56:45
And then Dickerson, who is an old pro,
2:56:47
knows what he's doing is a top journalist
2:56:49
is going to say, well, isn't it true
2:56:51
that the pediatricians have a conflict of interest
2:56:54
because they're paid direct money, direct cash money
2:56:58
to make sure all their patients have all
2:57:01
these vaccinations.
2:57:02
And it's a big, huge bonus and part
2:57:04
of their income.
2:57:05
It's very important to them.
2:57:06
So they're conflicted.
2:57:08
Don't you agree with that, Dr. Gounder?
2:57:10
Let's see if you're right.
2:57:12
Yeah.
2:57:12
So for the first time in decades, pediatricians
2:57:15
are putting out their own schedule because they
2:57:17
no longer trust the government's process.
2:57:19
So the CDC's Vaccine Advisory Committee, folks may
2:57:22
remember, was recently overhauled.
2:57:24
All members were dismissed.
2:57:27
And almost everyone who replaced those experts is
2:57:30
somebody who has spread disinformation about vaccines or
2:57:33
has expressed vaccine skepticism.
2:57:36
This has never happened under a previous Democratic
2:57:39
or Republican administration, that the process would be
2:57:42
politicized in this way.
2:57:43
And so the American Academy of Pediatrics is
2:57:46
saying, look, we want to stick to the
2:57:48
science.
2:57:48
We don't want to politicize process.
2:57:50
So now all of a sudden we have
2:57:52
to stick to that science.
2:57:54
But from the very same people who have
2:57:56
given your kids Ritalin, who have told your
2:57:59
kids that, oh, you know, they've told you,
2:58:02
well, it's better to have a daughter who's
2:58:04
alive or son who's alive than a daughter
2:58:07
who's dead.
2:58:08
The very same people.
2:58:11
The Academy.
2:58:12
Oh, I want to thank the Academy.
2:58:14
Oh, but what's a parent to do, doctor?
2:58:16
So if I'm a parent and I want
2:58:18
to know what to do...
2:58:19
Wait, wait, stop.
2:58:21
He didn't ask the question that I surmised?
2:58:25
No, funny.
2:58:26
He didn't ask a probing question, a valid
2:58:29
question that would actually make some sense and
2:58:31
educate the public that they're trying to serve?
2:58:34
This is not serving the public.
2:58:37
This is serving the advertiser.
2:58:39
So if I'm a parent and I want
2:58:41
to know what to do, fine, you guys
2:58:43
squabble.
2:58:43
What is a parent to do?
2:58:45
Don't do your own research.
2:58:47
Yeah, so the main area where the American
2:58:50
Academy of Pediatrics diverges so far with the
2:58:53
CDC, the CDC is no longer recommending routine
2:58:57
COVID vaccinations for healthy children.
2:59:00
Pediatricians, including the American Academy of Pediatrics, strongly
2:59:03
disagree with that.
2:59:05
And they are saying that all infants between
2:59:08
the ages of six months and two years
2:59:10
should be receiving a COVID vaccine.
2:59:13
The bottom line is that the risk in
2:59:15
infants is quite high.
2:59:17
And the first encounter with COVID should be
2:59:19
with the vaccine and not the virus.
2:59:23
Duh, what are you kidding me?
2:59:26
Listen to that.
2:59:27
Listen to that ending again.
2:59:28
That's very interesting what she says here.
2:59:31
Bottom line is that the risk in infants
2:59:34
is quite high.
2:59:35
And the first encounter with COVID should be
2:59:37
with the vaccine and not the virus.
2:59:40
Their first encounter with COVID should be with
2:59:43
the vaccine.
2:59:44
What does the vaccine give you COVID?
2:59:46
Yeah, well, duh.
2:59:48
But more importantly, why doesn't he ask her
2:59:51
to clarify when she says, which we know
2:59:55
not to be true, that the risk for
2:59:57
infants and kids is high for catching COVID?
3:00:01
Why doesn't he say, John Dickerson say, what
3:00:05
exactly is the risk?
3:00:07
How many times are you going to pose
3:00:08
this question pretending that you don't know this
3:00:10
is a bought and paid for advertisement?
3:00:13
We know this.
3:00:14
This is obvious.
3:00:15
He's not a journalist.
3:00:16
He is a pitch man.
3:00:18
And they did this same segment.
3:00:20
That was the evening news.
3:00:22
They did it on the morning show.
3:00:23
In this morning's Health Watch, as kids are
3:00:25
going back to school, there's new guidance from
3:00:28
the American Academy of Pediatrics recommending that children
3:00:30
from six months to two years old get
3:00:32
a COVID shot.
3:00:33
Now, this contradicts the Centers for Disease Control
3:00:36
under Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.
3:00:38
Kennedy Jr., which does not recommend COVID shots
3:00:41
for any healthy children.
3:00:43
CBS News medical contributor Dr. Celine Gounder is
3:00:46
editor-at-large for Public Health at KFF
3:00:48
Health News.
3:00:49
And she joins me now.
3:00:49
Good morning.
3:00:50
Morning.
3:00:50
All right.
3:00:51
So why has the American Academy of Pediatrics
3:00:54
made this recommendation?
3:00:55
I think it's important to note that even
3:00:57
before the American Academy of Pediatrics made this
3:00:59
recommendation, there was a group brought together called
3:01:01
the Vaccine Integrity Project, which includes some of
3:01:04
the nation's top experts in vaccine science, as
3:01:07
well as representatives from the professional medical societies.
3:01:10
They combed through all of the evidence since
3:01:13
the last CDC review of vaccines to bring
3:01:16
their recommendations up to date.
3:01:18
And that review is what informs the American
3:01:21
Academy of Pediatrics' newest recommendations.
3:01:24
And that affirms that the vaccines are safe
3:01:27
and effective.
3:01:28
Children or infants, really, between the ages.
3:01:30
Is she talking about the fee schedule?
3:01:33
Yes, it's safe and effective and profitable.
3:01:35
Six months and two years are those at
3:01:37
highest risk for complications from COVID, whether that's
3:01:40
hospitalization, ICU, because they have smaller airways.
3:01:44
Their immune systems are not fully developed.
3:01:46
And by the way, under two, we may
3:01:48
not even know if they have immunocompromising or
3:01:51
other underlying medical conditions that put them at
3:01:53
risk.
3:01:54
That's right.
3:01:54
Jab.
3:01:54
If they're under two, jab them up.
3:01:56
And the same script comes out again.
3:01:58
All right.
3:01:59
So parents are stuck in the middle because
3:02:00
this guidance conflicts with the CDC's.
3:02:02
What are you to do as a parent?
3:02:04
What am I going to do?
3:02:05
I stopped vaccinating.
3:02:06
I'm so confused.
3:02:07
You've confused me, CBS people.
3:02:08
Children against COVID.
3:02:10
So who should parents listen to?
3:02:14
The science.
3:02:15
I mean, look, the American Academy of Pediatrics
3:02:17
represents over 67,000 pediatricians across the country.
3:02:22
These are the people who actually see these
3:02:24
children every day.
3:02:25
And cash the checks.
3:02:27
Unfortunately, the federal guidance has now been shaped
3:02:30
by politics and ideology.
3:02:32
Some people will try to wow.
3:02:34
Wow, lady.
3:02:35
Wow.
3:02:36
Politics and ideology.
3:02:37
What's the ideology here?
3:02:39
What's the ideology?
3:02:42
This is this is these people are not
3:02:44
serving the public.
3:02:45
You pointed it out.
3:02:46
And they will say that high quality studies
3:02:47
are flawed.
3:02:49
They will call for gold standard science, which
3:02:51
is in reality, garbage science.
3:02:53
They will say that this is a commercial
3:02:56
interest ahead of public health.
3:02:58
When in fact.
3:02:59
Wow.
3:03:00
But you said yourself, this is putting commercial
3:03:03
interests ahead of public health.
3:03:05
Yes, exactly what you're doing.
3:03:08
And they will say that this is about
3:03:09
putting commercial interests ahead of public health.
3:03:12
When in fact, this is the first stop,
3:03:14
stop, stop, stop.
3:03:16
What specifically?
3:03:18
I'm sure this guy will ask.
3:03:20
But what specifically?
3:03:23
What specifically are the commercial interests that she's
3:03:29
talking about that they're putting ahead of public
3:03:32
health?
3:03:33
Who is who is profiting from that?
3:03:36
What what commercial interest is profiting from not
3:03:40
giving a kid a covid shot?
3:03:42
Well, if you listen, if you listen to
3:03:44
this.
3:03:46
She's saying that they are saying, i.e.
3:03:49
RFK Jr., the way I understood it, RFK
3:03:52
Jr. is saying you're putting commercial interests ahead
3:03:56
of health.
3:03:58
And that would be twofold.
3:04:00
One, the doctors who are.
3:04:03
You know, I thought she said that they're
3:04:04
that's the RFK position.
3:04:06
Let's listen.
3:04:07
OK, they will call for gold standard science,
3:04:09
which is in reality garbage science.
3:04:11
And they will say that this is about
3:04:13
putting commercial interests ahead of public health.
3:04:16
They will say that this is about putting
3:04:18
commercial interests ahead of public health.
3:04:20
The commercial interests are the shot guys shot.
3:04:23
And Celine Gounder with her advertisement for Big
3:04:27
Pharma right here on CBS.
3:04:29
When in fact, this is the first administration,
3:04:32
Republican or Democratic, to have politicized vaccine recommendations
3:04:36
in this way ever.
3:04:38
Politicized.
3:04:39
Politicized.
3:04:39
What's the point?
3:04:40
I don't get the politics part.
3:04:42
Well, she's politicizing it.
3:04:44
This is all what you say by yourself.
3:04:45
And there was a third bit here to
3:04:47
this morning segment that I could not resist
3:04:49
clipping for us.
3:04:51
The vaccine advisory committee recently limited use of
3:04:55
a preservative called thermosol.
3:04:56
Yeah, it's thimerosol, you dork.
3:05:00
Thermosol.
3:05:04
Thermostat, thermosol.
3:05:06
The vaccine advisory committee recently limited use of
3:05:09
a preservative called thermosol and is now looking
3:05:12
at other chemicals and vaccines.
3:05:14
Why are these part of the vaccine?
3:05:16
What's their use?
3:05:17
So thimerosol is a form of mercury.
3:05:20
Now people hear mercury and they think, oh,
3:05:22
that's dangerous.
3:05:23
We're talking about a specific form of mercury,
3:05:25
ethyl mercury, which is not the dangerous form.
3:05:28
The dangerous form is methyl mercury with an
3:05:31
M.
3:05:31
So MM.
3:05:33
And routine childhood vaccines have actually been thimerosol
3:05:36
free for years now.
3:05:37
So it's not really even an issue.
3:05:39
Now, what do you think she'll say next?
3:05:42
What do you think she'll say next?
3:05:44
By the way, the methylmercury, I have some
3:05:48
quibbles about that.
3:05:49
Any mercury salt is bad.
3:05:51
Please quibble away.
3:05:53
I want to hear ethylmercury versus methylmercury.
3:05:55
It's a bad actor.
3:05:57
But any mercury salt, elemental mercury is not
3:06:00
bad necessarily, unless it can be metabolized in
3:06:04
some way, but it generally can't.
3:06:06
But any salts, the salts are the things
3:06:09
that the body can absorb and cause poisoning.
3:06:12
And what is the thimerosol used for?
3:06:16
It's used for preservatives.
3:06:18
Yes, preservatives.
3:06:19
But now wait for it.
3:06:20
So big picture, if you're going to worry
3:06:22
about methylmercury, worry about broken thermometers and those
3:06:24
skin lightening creams, not about the vaccines.
3:06:27
Now, aluminum is another one Kennedy has also
3:06:30
been concerned about.
3:06:32
Aluminum nudges the immune system so that you
3:06:35
get a longer lasting, more robust immune response
3:06:38
with fewer doses.
3:06:40
So that's a bonus.
3:06:40
And there's no evidence that it's harmful.
3:06:43
No evidence.
3:06:45
Aluminum, do you think that's a good thing
3:06:47
to have in your vaccines?
3:06:49
No.
3:06:50
And what she didn't say is it's an
3:06:53
adjuvant.
3:06:53
Yeah, she didn't use the term.
3:06:55
It kind of tickles your immune system, you
3:06:58
know, to get you going.
3:06:59
Yeah, because it's toxic.
3:07:00
Yes, that's exactly why.
3:07:02
These people.
3:07:04
Oh man, oh man, oh man.
3:07:06
Well, you can talk all you want.
3:07:07
You're blue in the face.
3:07:21
In the morning.
3:07:22
Well, even though we don't have their actual
3:07:24
names, then we hope to have them very
3:07:26
soon.
3:07:27
And we'll gladly go back and proclaim them
3:07:30
properly as secretary generals.
3:07:32
We do have a couple of those coming
3:07:33
up.
3:07:33
Thanks to the donors from today.
3:07:36
Also, we have our meetup schedule.
3:07:38
We've got a ton of birthdays.
3:07:39
We have John's tip of the day.
3:07:41
A lot of birthdays.
3:07:42
A lot of birthdays.
3:07:42
But first, we want to thank all of
3:07:44
our treasure supporters, $50 and above.
3:07:49
Yes, Nathan Cochran.
3:07:51
Well, actually, Nathan, we've got two Nathans, two
3:07:54
in a row.
3:07:55
Nathan Treywick in San Antone, $190.
3:08:00
Just came in under the $200 mark for
3:08:02
some reason.
3:08:03
Nathan Cochran, Franklin, Tennessee.
3:08:06
One, two, three, four, five.
3:08:07
You know where he's from.
3:08:09
Yeah, he's from Mercy Me.
3:08:10
Yes, exactly.
3:08:12
That's right.
3:08:12
Yeah, he's one of the many famous people.
3:08:16
Yes.
3:08:16
That like to listen to the No Agenda
3:08:18
Show to give them a leg up in
3:08:21
any sort of personal debate with anybody in
3:08:24
the world.
3:08:24
And the guys, they discuss it on the
3:08:26
tour bus.
3:08:27
They discuss the show on the tour bus.
3:08:30
They do.
3:08:31
That's how they pass the time.
3:08:32
Like, did you hear what the boys said?
3:08:35
What'd they say?
3:08:36
Yes, that's what they do.
3:08:38
Dame Rita, there she is.
3:08:39
She's in Sparks, Nevada, 10821.
3:08:41
I'll read her notes.
3:08:42
I'm sorry, I need to interrupt.
3:08:43
They just recently, we should consider this, they
3:08:47
did a Mercy Me Alaskan cruise.
3:08:51
Yeah.
3:08:52
Where you can join the Alaskan cruise.
3:08:55
Yeah.
3:08:55
That sounds like a moneymaker.
3:08:58
Yeah, it does.
3:08:58
I've had other people suggest this.
3:09:00
Do we want to do that?
3:09:02
We'll talk about it.
3:09:05
I'm thinking no, but okay.
3:09:08
I didn't expect you to say we'll talk
3:09:09
about it.
3:09:10
All right.
3:09:11
Onward.
3:09:12
10821 from Dame Rita.
3:09:15
I'm going to read her note.
3:09:16
ITM, John and Adam, thank you for your
3:09:17
valuable skills in media deconstruction, for exposing unfounded
3:09:22
claims by opportunistic actors.
3:09:26
Of course, your great humor always helps.
3:09:28
Also, happy 64th birthday to my husband, Greg
3:09:32
Harrington, on August 23rd.
3:09:35
And he is on the list.
3:09:40
Rick Justesen, Justesen, Justesen, maybe, in Salt Lake
3:09:44
City.
3:09:45
100.
3:09:48
He's been a five-year-long listener.
3:09:50
Doug Murray, Douglas Murray.
3:09:52
Douglas Murray, there you go.
3:09:54
99.99. Happy birthday to the Cotton Gin.
3:09:59
All right.
3:10:02
Oh, brother.
3:10:03
No, not the.
3:10:04
Happy birthday, Cotton Gin.
3:10:06
Cotton Gin?
3:10:07
Is it Cotton Gin's birthday?
3:10:10
Well, it's on the list.
3:10:11
Well, I got to put Cotton Gin on
3:10:13
the birthday list, then.
3:10:15
Well, it's probably on there.
3:10:17
Yeah.
3:10:17
Oh, it is on there.
3:10:18
Yes, good.
3:10:18
Happy birthday.
3:10:19
Cotton Gin does a lot on the stream.
3:10:25
Oh, okay.
3:10:26
Important part of the world.
3:10:28
Mongasaurus Rex.
3:10:30
Mongasaurus, I get it now.
3:10:31
Mongasaurus Rex in Kailua, Hawaii.
3:10:36
8888.
3:10:36
That's a birthday call-out to his smoking
3:10:39
hot wife, Bunny.
3:10:40
Bunny.
3:10:41
Bunny.
3:10:43
Jobs Karma to end for him, if we
3:10:46
can remember.
3:10:47
Jacob Van Doysen in Pittsfield, Massachusetts.
3:10:52
That's 8833.
3:10:54
And that's another call-out for Colby.
3:10:59
Another birthday call-out.
3:11:00
Colby.
3:11:02
Eric Mackey, M-A-K-E-Y, in
3:11:05
Blainesville, Georgia.
3:11:10
8087.
3:11:11
A lot of oddball notes that appear with
3:11:14
these areas.
3:11:16
It's funds for our new server.
3:11:17
He's helping us with the cost of the
3:11:19
new server.
3:11:19
Oh, that's how we get...
3:11:20
Oh, brother.
3:11:21
I know.
3:11:22
Kevin McLaughlin, 8008.
3:11:24
He is the Archduke Luna of Luna.
3:11:28
Lover of America and lover of melons.
3:11:30
Chad Hewitt in Folsom, California.
3:11:32
And he came with 8008, obviously.
3:11:35
Chad Hewitt in Folsom, California.
3:11:37
6640.
3:11:39
66 books, 40 authors.
3:11:42
Sir Kevin O'Brien in Chicago.
3:11:45
6006.
3:11:46
Wyatt Worms, Verms, Vermis?
3:11:51
Wormies.
3:11:51
Wormies.
3:11:52
Wormies.
3:11:53
In Phoenix, Oregon.
3:11:57
6006.
3:11:58
India Tango Mike, which means ITM.
3:12:03
That's right.
3:12:04
Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona.
3:12:06
6006.
3:12:07
Samantha Vieira in Granbury, Granbury, Granbury, Texas.
3:12:14
Granbury, Texas.
3:12:16
Fishery, 5821.
3:12:18
Happy birthday to her husband.
3:12:20
Pretty.
3:12:21
Scott Mengel, it could be Mengla, but I
3:12:25
think it's Mengel.
3:12:26
In Exton, Pennsylvania.
3:12:27
5555.
3:12:29
Every time he sees FLOZ, he thinks Florida
3:12:33
ounces.
3:12:34
Everybody does.
3:12:34
Zachary Maywood, he must be a young one.
3:12:37
Yeah.
3:12:38
Zachary Maywood in Los Angeles, California.
3:12:42
5555.
3:12:42
Dean Roker, 5510.
3:12:44
Corey Cotton in Cleveland Heights, Ohio.
3:12:48
5510.
3:12:49
It's another birthday for Corey Cotton.
3:12:53
Loyal listener since double digits.
3:12:55
Right on, Corey.
3:12:56
Right on, right on, right on.
3:12:59
Bill McFarlane in Manassas, Virginia.
3:13:02
5510.
3:13:06
Trevor Malkinson.
3:13:07
Malkinson, Malkinson.
3:13:09
Malkinson, sorry.
3:13:10
Malkinson in Courtenay, Courtenay, Courtenay.
3:13:15
I'm not sure how to pronounce it, even
3:13:16
though I should.
3:13:17
BC, Canada.
3:13:19
Courtenay, Courtenay, Courtenay.
3:13:21
You don't know about how those Canadians pronounce
3:13:23
things.
3:13:24
55.
3:13:27
Things are expensive here in Canada.
3:13:29
The family of four bill is over $3
3:13:31
,500.
3:13:32
The food bill is over $3,500 a
3:13:35
month.
3:13:36
Well, that's only $75 in American money, so.
3:13:40
Well, it's still high.
3:13:44
Martin Verhaar in Kolmhout, Belgium.
3:13:49
Kolmhout.
3:13:49
And thank you, by the way, Trevor and
3:13:51
family.
3:13:51
We appreciate you doing that.
3:13:53
Kolmhout, Kolmhout, Kolmhout.
3:13:55
5272.
3:13:56
We had some more Belgian donations.
3:13:59
Kent O'Rourke in Frostburg, Maryland, 5272.
3:14:02
Paul Terranova in Webster, Massachusetts, 5272.
3:14:07
Dame Nancy there in San Bruno, 5244.
3:14:12
She says donating is good for the soul.
3:14:15
Also good for the show.
3:14:17
Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas, 50.
3:14:20
Oh, we got to 50, so let's just
3:14:22
rattle them off, name and location.
3:14:24
Starting with Scott.
3:14:25
Then Noah McDonald in Traverse City, Michigan.
3:14:30
Nice place.
3:14:31
Terence Boyer in Tuscaloosa, Tuscola, Tuscola, sorry.
3:14:36
Tuscola, Illinois.
3:14:38
Andrew Gusik in Greensboro, North Carolina.
3:14:41
Michael Sykora in New Richmond, Wisconsin.
3:14:46
AA Offerings in Dordrecht.
3:14:50
Dordrecht.
3:14:52
In Netherlands.
3:14:53
Dordrecht.
3:14:56
Rene Bernhardt Gruten.
3:15:01
Bernhardt Gruten.
3:15:05
Bernhardt Gruten.
3:15:07
And she's in Switzerland in St. Gallen, which
3:15:11
I believe is a skiing area.
3:15:13
I could be wrong.
3:15:15
Adam G.
3:15:15
Hurst in...
3:15:16
We love the Swiss.
3:15:18
We do.
3:15:18
Adam G.
3:15:19
Hurst in Healthcote, New South Wales, Australia.
3:15:24
That's a 50.
3:15:25
And last on our 50 list is Stephen
3:15:27
Downing, and he's in Ogden, Utah.
3:15:32
Greatest thanks to Adam and John for teaching
3:15:35
me how to properly deconstruct the news.
3:15:39
Boom.
3:15:39
All right.
3:15:40
Well, thank you to these donors, $50 and
3:15:43
above.
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We appreciate you.
3:15:45
Let me get the jobs karma out for
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those who requested it.
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Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
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Let's vote for jobs.
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You've got karma.
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And a reminder that we never read anything
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under 50 for reasons of anonymity, but we
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do see you all.
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Thank you so much for supporting us.
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noagendadonations.com.
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Here we go.
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Maddie M wishes her blue collar Bebe Nixie
3:16:33
a happy one.
3:16:34
Turning 43 today.
3:16:36
Sam Trudell turns 33 today.
3:16:38
Sam and JC wish Freddie Vieira a happy
3:16:41
one.
3:16:41
21st.
3:16:42
That's the birthday today.
3:16:43
Matt, happy birthday to Mike Ellison.
3:16:45
Turns 45 tomorrow.
3:16:47
Mongosaurus Rex wishes his smoking hot wife, Bonnie,
3:16:50
a very happy birthday for tomorrow.
3:16:52
Corey Cotton, tomorrow's celebration.
3:16:54
Chris Illuminati Jensen celebrates on the 23rd.
3:16:58
Dame Rita, happy birthday to her husband, Greg
3:17:01
Harrington on the 23rd.
3:17:03
Jacob Von Dozen, his son, Colby, will be
3:17:07
turning two on the 31st.
3:17:09
Happy birthday to him.
3:17:10
And not just from Douglas Murray, but from
3:17:13
myself and John as well.
3:17:14
Very happy birthday to Cotton Jensen.
3:17:16
And of course, happy birthday from everybody here.
3:17:18
The best podcast in the universe.
3:17:22
Now, I would like the back office to
3:17:24
take note.
3:17:25
We have four secretary generals.
3:17:27
We do not have their names yet.
3:17:29
So I will put together a special secretary
3:17:32
general award ceremony, music and effects, etc.
3:17:37
And we will come back to Steve Miller,
3:17:40
Peter Fantino, Skylar Firestone and Sir Ahab.
3:17:44
They might not have even known that they
3:17:46
were eligible for a secretary general because it
3:17:48
is $500.
3:17:49
They came in with $500 or more.
3:17:51
So we will let you know and or
3:17:54
you let us know.
3:17:55
And we will secretary generalize them post the
3:18:00
actual event.
3:18:01
Does that sound right?
3:18:02
I guess so.
3:18:04
It's going to be fun.
3:18:05
I think we'll have some really...
3:18:06
John Dickerson couldn't do better.
3:18:08
I think we'll have some very funny names
3:18:10
to be congratulated.
3:18:12
Tonight's ready to go.
3:18:14
If you got your blade, we'll bring him
3:18:15
up on the podium.
3:18:16
You got it right here.
3:18:17
Oh, you hit your head.
3:18:21
Oscar, Peter Fantino.
3:18:24
Both of you have supported the NOAA General
3:18:26
Show in enough funds.
3:18:29
That is $1,000 or more can be
3:18:31
an aggregate over any amount of time.
3:18:33
That makes you both Knights of the NOAA
3:18:35
General Roundtable.
3:18:35
I'm very happy and proud to pronounce the
3:18:37
KV as Knight Kurt of the Nongorongoro Crater.
3:18:42
Sir Peter, Jockey of the Mountains.
3:18:44
For you gentlemen, we have Hookers of Blue,
3:18:46
Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Beef Wellington, and a
3:18:48
Shaken Dirty Martini, Zebra Schnitzel, Hippo Hot Links,
3:18:52
a Pilsner or two, and one, just one,
3:18:54
Camel Filter Cigarette, along with that ginger ale
3:18:56
and gerbils, bong hits and bourbon, breast milk
3:18:59
and pablum, and of course mutton and meat.
3:19:01
And you can head on over to noagenderings
3:19:03
.com.
3:19:04
Take a look at those rings.
3:19:05
They are very handsome.
3:19:06
They are very beautiful.
3:19:07
And if you give us your ring size
3:19:09
and address to send them to, we'll send
3:19:10
it to you with some sticks of wax
3:19:13
with which you can use to, you know,
3:19:16
seal your important correspondence.
3:19:18
They are, after all, Cignet rings.
3:19:19
And it always comes accompanied with a Certificate
3:19:22
of Authenticity.
3:19:23
Congratulations to both of you.
3:19:24
And welcome to the No Agenda Roundtable.
3:19:27
No Agenda Meetups!
3:19:36
Yeah, the No Agenda Meetups, this is where
3:19:38
you find the connection that always gives you
3:19:39
protection.
3:19:40
And of course, it's where you will find
3:19:41
the first responders in an emergency in your
3:19:44
community.
3:19:46
No reports today, no promos, but I can
3:19:48
tell you that there's a Meetup in Charlotte,
3:19:51
North Carolina tonight, seven o'clock at Charlotte's
3:19:54
Thirsty Third Thursday.
3:19:55
That is at Ed's Tavern.
3:19:56
The Maastricht Meetup happens tomorrow.
3:19:59
That's in the Netherlands, seven o'clock at...
3:20:01
Actually, it's at the Everett Bopp's house.
3:20:04
So you want to RSVP for that.
3:20:06
He is the guy from Disaster Tech Labs
3:20:08
who is here helping out with the flood
3:20:10
relief in Texas.
3:20:11
On Saturday, we have the McKinney Media Mockery,
3:20:15
12.30. That's in McKinney, Texas at the
3:20:18
Pub in McKinney.
3:20:19
So that's an early one to get hammered.
3:20:21
And the Sorry It's Been So Long Meetup
3:20:23
in Cleveland, Ohio on Saturday at 6.30
3:20:26
in 56 Kitchen Mayfield Heights.
3:20:29
And finally, we have the Outback Steakhouse Beef
3:20:32
Tallow Meetup.
3:20:33
That's in Indianapolis or in Indiana.
3:20:36
I'm sorry, Carmel, Indiana at the Outback Steakhouse.
3:20:39
That'll be at 3.30. I think they
3:20:42
had only one or two people the last
3:20:44
time.
3:20:44
So if you're around Carmel, Indiana, go to
3:20:47
the Outback Steakhouse on our next show day.
3:20:49
That is Sunday, 3.30 in Indianapolis.
3:20:52
Just a few of the No Agenda Meetups
3:20:54
coming up in this month and the next
3:20:56
month.
3:20:56
There's many more to be found, including the
3:20:58
October 11th Fredericksburg Hill Country Meetup at J6er
3:21:02
Jenny's Bar, the Half Moon...
3:21:04
Not the Half Moon, the Full Moon Bed
3:21:06
and Breakfast at her bar there.
3:21:08
I will be there.
3:21:09
I think we'll get the Keeper out there
3:21:12
and then many more luminaries from the Texas
3:21:14
area.
3:21:15
Go to noagendameetups.com to find every single
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thing that is listed.
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And if you can't find one near you,
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start one yourself at noagendameetups.com.
3:21:40
It's like a party.
3:21:42
Now, before we get to John's tip of
3:21:44
the day, we always like to show you
3:21:46
how the sausage is made in Media Land.
3:21:48
And we're going to do a little production
3:21:51
meeting here and we're going to select the
3:21:53
end of show ISO.
3:21:55
I actually have a lot of ISOs for
3:21:57
today.
3:21:58
So I'm going to roll through all of
3:22:00
them and then we'll...
3:22:02
Do you have an ISO at all?
3:22:03
I have two that are probably...
3:22:06
If you have a lot, you'll probably have
3:22:07
a killer.
3:22:08
Okay, let's see what we have.
3:22:09
I'm about to lose my mind.
3:22:12
Okay, all right.
3:22:13
No.
3:22:14
No.
3:22:14
Okay, no.
3:22:15
Eject.
3:22:15
This is not a children's program.
3:22:19
Now we love the voice.
3:22:20
Yeah.
3:22:21
This is not My Little Pony.
3:22:24
I kind of like that one.
3:22:26
I do too.
3:22:27
Authenticity and truth.
3:22:30
A little hollow, but okay.
3:22:32
These guys are completely natural.
3:22:36
And here we go with this.
3:22:38
You know, we get into it deep.
3:22:41
And then the final one.
3:22:43
Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring.
3:22:47
And that's what I got.
3:22:49
So I think we both...
3:22:50
I'll keep it up here.
3:22:51
I think we...
3:22:52
No, we're just bumping mine to the next
3:22:54
show.
3:22:54
We like these.
3:22:55
This is not My Little Pony.
3:22:57
I kind of like that one.
3:22:58
You're bumping yours.
3:22:59
We have to go with that.
3:23:00
Okay, well, you've got a lozenge and we're
3:23:02
putting your ISOs in a band, which means
3:23:05
it's time.
3:23:05
I am in lozenge mode, yes.
3:23:07
Time everybody for John's tip of the day.
3:23:21
All right.
3:23:22
For everybody out there, it should be a
3:23:24
gardener.
3:23:25
If they're not, they should have potted plants
3:23:26
somewhere in their apartment.
3:23:28
You should be a gardener or just learn
3:23:30
how to code.
3:23:33
So the tip of the day are terracotta
3:23:36
watering spikes.
3:23:39
You can just Google it.
3:23:43
Terracotta watering spikes.
3:23:44
They have them all over the place.
3:23:45
They sell them there.
3:23:46
It looks like a giant carrot and you
3:23:48
fill them with water and they water the
3:23:50
plant.
3:23:50
You put a bottle of water in the
3:23:52
top hole and it'll water plants without you
3:23:57
having to attend to them.
3:23:58
In case you're on vacation, you take a
3:23:59
week off, you go someplace for the weekend,
3:24:02
you have a plant that needs watering.
3:24:04
This takes care of it.
3:24:05
It's a very good tip.
3:24:07
How does it function?
3:24:09
Well, it turns out that it leaks.
3:24:13
There's all these different mechanisms for watering plants.
3:24:17
So what you don't, because most people get
3:24:19
on Amazon, they'll buy some internet of things,
3:24:23
connected watering hose thing.
3:24:26
You don't want that?
3:24:27
Why do we not want that?
3:24:29
Because what happens if the net goes down?
3:24:31
What happens if you have your rotary boots?
3:24:33
It's nonsense.
3:24:35
Just have some simple device, a terracotta, T
3:24:39
-E-R-R-A-C-O-T-T
3:24:41
-A, watering spike.
3:24:43
There's a bunch of people that make them.
3:24:44
And the ones you want to look like
3:24:45
a carrot and you can stick up, you
3:24:48
soak them first and stick them in the
3:24:50
ground and then stick a water bottle in
3:24:52
the top.
3:24:54
Fill with water and it'll drain.
3:24:56
As the soil gets dry, it'll leak out
3:24:59
the water very slowly and keep the plant
3:25:02
from dropping dead.
3:25:04
Huh.
3:25:05
That is a very good tip.
3:25:07
I like that.
3:25:09
That is cool.
3:25:10
That's an old school analog.
3:25:12
How long will it last?
3:25:13
I mean, how much water do you, how
3:25:15
long will the water last from the bottle
3:25:17
that you put into it?
3:25:18
I don't know.
3:25:19
I've never run out of water.
3:25:20
You've never been out of the house for
3:25:22
more than three hours.
3:25:23
I don't go out of the house.
3:25:24
I stay here.
3:25:25
All right, everybody.
3:25:26
You can find them all on tipoftheday.net,
3:25:28
John's Tip of the Day.
3:25:39
There you go, everybody.
3:25:40
That does it for another three and a
3:25:43
half hours of media deconstruction.
3:25:45
Just for you, for your pleasure.
3:25:47
We are working for you as a public
3:25:49
service, not for big pharma, not for some
3:25:53
ghoulish industry and certainly not for the podcast
3:25:58
industrial complex.
3:26:00
No siree.
3:26:02
Keep it right here on the stream if
3:26:05
you're listening in the modern podcast app or
3:26:06
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3:26:12
in a Six Pack coming up next on
3:26:14
the stream.
3:26:15
It's always a fun show to listen to.
3:26:18
And of course, we will return on Sunday
3:26:22
with more of your media deconstruction.
3:26:23
End of show isos.
3:26:25
I mean, end of show mixes.
3:26:27
Sir Michael Anthony, Neil Jones times two with
3:26:33
a classic and a brand new one.
3:26:36
And I am coming to you from the
3:26:37
heart of the Texas Hill Country in little
3:26:40
old Fredericksburg, Texas.
3:26:43
In the morning, everybody.
3:26:44
I'm Adam Curry.
3:26:45
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain,
3:26:48
I'm John C.
3:26:49
Dvorak.
3:26:49
We return on Sunday.
3:26:50
Won't you join us?
3:26:52
Same time, same bat channel.
3:26:54
And always remember us at noagendadonations.com.
3:26:56
Until then, adios, mofos, hui hui, and such.
3:27:29
This was straight out of Putin's
3:27:39
playbook.
3:27:43
Putin's playbook's playbook's playbook's playbook's playbook's playbook's.
3:27:47
Well, we know this is definitely part of
3:27:49
the Russian playbook.
3:27:53
Russian playbook's playbook's playbook's playbook's.
3:27:56
And the Russian, the Russian philosophy, the Russian
3:27:58
playbook will not change.
3:28:00
So I think that is the Russian playbook.
3:28:01
It is part of the Russian playbook.
3:28:04
The tactics look familiar.
3:28:06
Like a page from Russia's playbook.
3:28:07
Because of what he called Russia's playbook on
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murdering people.
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Clearly Russia benefits the most from this.
3:28:13
And it does fit the Russian playbook.
3:28:16
The Russian playbook.
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Russian playbook.
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Russian playbook.
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She's a what?
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Michelle is a transgender.
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We all know that.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Oh, my gosh.
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It's okay.
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Oh, my gosh.
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That's a conspiracy theory.
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Oh, my gosh.
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