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Oh my, Dad was right!
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Adam Curry.
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John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's Thursday, November 13th, 2025.
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This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media
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Assassination Episode 1816.
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This is no agenda.
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With bikini-clad babes, we're broadcasting live from
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the heart of the Texas Hill Country here
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in FEMA Region No.
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6 in the morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry.
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And from northern Silicon Valley where there's no
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bikinis because it's raining out, I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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Who gave us these?
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Somebody sent these.
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I don't remember.
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Somebody.
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And they look like a...
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This is one of the few times they
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send them to both of us.
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Usually I just get stuff.
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And they look like a really bad sex
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toy.
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And it takes a lot of...
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You have to figure out how to use
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it right.
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It takes talent, is what you're saying.
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And what's the point?
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People have to...
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We should probably take a picture of this
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and put it on the newsletter.
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But it's like, what's the point of the
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lid?
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Well, if you close the lid, it doesn't
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work.
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Right, but what's the point of it?
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Well, if you look inside...
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Is it to keep rats out of going
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in it?
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Or what's the point?
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No, well, look.
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I have wondered this myself.
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Why don't you bring it up?
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And if you look inside, there's a very
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sensitive film inside.
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And so I believe it is to protect
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that from rats.
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You see that?
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There's a little film, little rubbery thing in
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there.
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Yeah, no, I see what's in there.
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It looks like a smiley face.
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Well, if you touch that, then that thing
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has a little...
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I wouldn't...
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And...
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This is the kind of crazy device that
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we have.
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Good morning to you, podcast enthusiasts.
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We're glad that you're here.
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I'm waiting for the penny to drop with
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you.
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Okay, well, you set me up with a
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beautiful opening for I'm not sure what.
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Don't you remember?
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Unless you're talking about these Kimmel clips.
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No, I'm talking about the great email we
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received from Stone McGee.
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What's Stone McGee?
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What was the Stone McGee email?
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Stone McGee said, I have his email.
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Hi, Noah Gender Rings.
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Oh, right.
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Okay.
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I forgot about this email.
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Yes, I got an email.
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I sent it to Adam.
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I got this email that was obviously done.
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These guys should be ashamed of themselves.
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Especially Stone McGee.
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Stone McGee in particular.
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And yes, I would hope to.
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Yes, thank you.
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Thank you for bringing that email up.
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This is the kind of email we get.
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Or I got this one.
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Both of us get these, though.
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From guys who are sales guys that really
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don't know how to sell.
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Because they can't even write a note.
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This is not even written by them.
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This is written by some AI.
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And this shows you why it fails.
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Please read this.
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Yes.
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And by the way, I think Stone McGee
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is a great DJ name.
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There's nothing wrong with that.
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Stone McGee in the morning.
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Good morning, everybody.
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Stone McGee with you.
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Hi, Noah Gender Rings.
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We have NoahGenderRings.com.
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So this is where it was.
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Somebody scraped the internet and found this web
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address.
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I wanted to share the result of my
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60-day comparative analysis of Noah Gender Show.
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It appears that NoahGenderShow.net and NoahGenderShop.com
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are receiving better online clicks.
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The good news?
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Enhancing strategies around keywords like Noah Gender Podcast,
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Nighthood Rings, Sir Dame Status Ring.
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It's my favorite.
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Yeah, it's a beauty.
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I like a Sir Dame Status Ring.
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And unique podcast merchandise, along with effective technical
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modifications, will allow NoahGenderRings.com to improve engagement
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with podcast enthusiasts.
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Well, when I heard that, when I heard
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that we could improve engagement with podcast enthusiasts,
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I was very turned on.
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Interested in discussing this further?
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Regards, Stone McGee.
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So I just wondered, how many people out
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there are a podcast enthusiast who are listening
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to us?
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Probably a few.
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I'm sure there are quite a few podcast
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enthusiasts.
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Yes.
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It's amazing.
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Yeah, that is the kind of pathetic pitch.
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It's a pitch that floats around, and I
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don't know that it's negative.
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If you get a pitch from a guy
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like this, you would never do business with
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him.
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Because this is just a moment of incompetence.
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And still, I wager that he still gets
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people, yeah, yeah, that's great.
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I suppose if he sent out one million
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emails to every web address that you have
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scraped, there's got to be one that would
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fit the criteria perfectly for that, so in
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other words, as it pulled out information, it
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would pull out exactly the right information and
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sound like a real pitch.
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And maybe there could be 10 or 20
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or 30 of them.
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I have yet to see one.
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I haven't seen one either.
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I did get a note from Justin from
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OP Way.
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He was on a flight, and he was
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catching up on No Agenda.
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He's like, holy mackerel, you guys called me
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out like three times.
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He says, yes, noagendaboots.com, noagendasneakers.com, and
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noagendashoes.com will soon be on the air
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for our Valuetainment footwear.
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Valuetainment clone.
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He says, shall I send the contract?
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So I said, no, no.
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If you can just put No Agenda on
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the soles of these shoes or stitch in
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some ITM 33s, just send the donation from
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time to time, we'll be fine.
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That's my basic system.
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That is the Valuetainment.
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And it's worked, so we're not changing nothing.
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Although I wonder how the kids at noagendashop
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.com are doing.
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I don't know.
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I think they need a boost.
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Noagendashop.com for all your No Agenda shop
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slop.
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It's all there, everybody.
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I think they may have burned out.
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I mean, we've noticed this, of course, and
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we've been doing this long enough.
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Because we did t-shirts, too, at the
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very beginning.
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We did?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we had the nude.
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Oh, Eric tried to make money off of
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it.
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Yeah, he was getting donation or something.
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He lost his shirt, so to speak.
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Yeah, it's a loser.
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And people who do merch, they lose their
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asses eventually.
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Sometimes you'll get a little boost at the
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beginning, but it's not sustainable.
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Because it's like you have a set number
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of, in our case, producers, and they grab
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a few things now and again at the
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beginning when they're enthusiastic, and then after a
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while they stop buying, and so you can't
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get repeat customers.
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No, and then you're stuck with a whole
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pile of t-shirts.
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Yeah, which you can't even give away to
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anybody else because they don't know what the
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hell you're talking about.
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What is this Gitmo Nation thing?
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I don't want this.
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Bring them to goodwill.
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So we do it this way, which is…
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And it's actually quite difficult.
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So we have one premium feature, which is
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the night and the day ring, and we
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got a note from…
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But we also have the other minor, the
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come and go features, which is, for example,
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currently we have the Peace Prize.
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The No Agenda Peace Prize, yeah.
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But that's a very exclusive, limited supply.
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And then we have the Rub-a-Lyzer,
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which I got to do a quick update
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on the Rub-a-Lyzer.
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Oh, for the challenge coin?
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Yeah, Paul Couture just sent me a mock
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-up of one side of the challenge coin.
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Yeah.
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He is the best at this.
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He did the original challenge coin for us,
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and he does the website that we use,
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the noagendaart.com.
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No, noagendaartgenerator.com.
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Okay, so it's only been there for 15
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years.
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Yeah, what am I going to do?
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Noagendaartgenerator.com, so it's very convenient to type
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all that in.
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Once you do it, it auto-completes.
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Don't worry.
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Once you get it right.
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So he did the original art, and he
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is just an incredibly talented artist.
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And this thing will be done probably within
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the next 30 days.
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Okay.
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Then we've got to have it produced, which
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Jay will do.
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Yeah, I was looking at my challenge coin
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collection.
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We have done quite a number of challenge
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coins.
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I think one of my favorites is the
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2012 Geocash coin.
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Remember that one?
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I have a collection, too.
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It doesn't come to mind.
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These things will be around long after we're
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gone.
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That's what I like.
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Yeah, yeah, that's for sure.
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And at some point, like 100 years from
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now, somebody will discover them, and it will
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be on Antiques Roadshow.
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Yes, and we found one of these.
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These are very collectible, and the market's been
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going up.
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What is the challenge coin?
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Well, I've got two of them.
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They're worth $7,000 each.
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Wow.
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Oh, my dad was right.
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The Antiques Roadshow.
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Yeah.
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Oh, man.
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Well, I did see your series of Kimmel
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clips come in, so I'm very interested.
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I think maybe just for form's sake, we
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should probably do the Epstein stuff because that
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is, oh, my Lord, is just so amazing.
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Trump is mentioned.
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He's with bikini-clad girls.
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Epstein!
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Tonight, in newly released email, sex offender Jeffrey
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Epstein repeatedly discussing Donald Trump, shedding new light
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on their long friendship and seeming to suggest
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Trump had information he never shared.
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In a 2011 exchange with his co-conspirator,
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Glenn Maxwell, Epstein writing the, quote, dog that
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hasn't barked is Trump, adding one of his
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victims spent hours with Trump at Epstein's home,
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but that Trump has never once been mentioned.
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Maxwell replying, I have been thinking about that.
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The emails obtained from the Epstein estate.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Bombshell.
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Maxwell replying, I have been thinking about that.
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The emails obtained from the Epstein estate were
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released by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee.
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Tonight, House Republicans and the White House say
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the victim mentioned was Virginia Giuffre, who once
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worked at Trump's spa at Mar-a-Lago.
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She had said she never saw Trump do
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anything inappropriate.
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She died by suicide earlier this year.
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Trump and Epstein were friends for more than
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a decade.
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Have you socialized with him?
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Yes, sir.
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Yes?
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Yes, sir.
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Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in
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the presence of females under the age of
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18?
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Now, I better invoke something here.
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Though I'd like to answer that question, at
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least today, I'm going to have to assert
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my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.
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Trump insists he broke off the friendship when
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he learned Epstein and Maxwell were luring away
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women and teenage girls who worked at Mar
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-a-Lago.
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Stole people that worked for me.
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I said, don't ever do that again.
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He did it again, and I threw him
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out of the place.
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Persona non grata.
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I threw him out, and that was it.
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I thought the most interesting of the Epstein
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emails was Michael Wolff, who, you know, this
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hoity-toity journalist.
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He was basically an image consultant for Epstein.
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Well, you know, if you do this and
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then, you know, it'll look like that in
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the media.
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I mean, that guy's creepy.
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He basically was working for Epstein.
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Yeah, as a PR consultant.
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Yeah.
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Let's go around the world.
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Let's see what the BBC has to say.
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Well, shortly before we came in the studio
12:26
to record this podcast, Democrats in the U
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.S. House of Representatives released emails from the
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convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein that referenced President
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Trump.
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They say the emails raised serious questions about
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how much Mr. Trump knew about the late
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financier's behavior.
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Mr. Trump has consistently said he knew nothing
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of Epstein's activities and didn't engage in any
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wrongdoing himself.
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Now, the White House press secretary, Caroline Leavitt,
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has responded by saying the Democrats selectively leaked
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emails to the liberal media to create a
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fake narrative to smear President Trump.
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Okay, let's check out France 24 then, shall
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we?
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A damning new batch of emails which threaten
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to raise questions about U.S. President Donald
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Trump's relationship with...
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Wait, stop, stop.
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Their phrase, they threaten...
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Yes, they threaten to raise questions.
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To raise questions.
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So wait a minute, why don't they just
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raise questions?
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Why do they have to threaten to do
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it?
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Why don't you just raise the questions as
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opposed to threaten to...
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I'm threatening that I'm going to ask you
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a question.
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What kind of thinking is this?
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It's even more ludicrous because if I understood
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the report correctly, it's the emails raised the
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threatening questions.
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The emails.
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So this non-entity is threatening to raise
13:48
questions.
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Listen.
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A damning new batch of emails which threaten
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to raise questions about U.S. President Donald
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Trump's relationship...
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Oh, those emails, I'm afraid of them.
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...with Jeffrey Epstein and whether or not he
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knew about the sex offenders' crimes.
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The three emails were released by U.S.
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Democrats on the House Oversight Committee.
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In one exchange between Epstein and his former
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girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein alleges an unnamed victim
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spent hours at his house with Trump.
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And in another exchange, this time between Epstein
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and author Michael Wolff, Epstein says of course
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Trump knew about the girls as he asked
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Ghislaine to stop.
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Donald Trump has consistently denied that he had
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any knowledge of Epstein's sex trafficking activities.
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The White House responded by accusing Democrats of
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smearing President Trump, but the emails could heap
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pressure on the White House to publish the
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files.
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Democrats in the House are now a step
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closer to forcing the publication, with the swearing
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-in of a Democrat as representative for Arizona's
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7th congressional district.
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Do you notice, by the way, that the
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France 24 report is also done by a
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Brit?
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I find that just interesting.
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Which had been delayed since she was elected
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seven weeks ago.
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She has now signed the petition, giving it
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the needed 218 signatures that could eventually lead
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to the release of the so-called Epstein
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case files.
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That was President Donald Trump in July this
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year, offering a very different opinion of Jeffrey
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Epstein than he once shared publicly.
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In 2002, long before he became president, Trump
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told New York Magazine he'd known Jeffrey Epstein
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for 15 years and called him a terrific
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guy.
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He's a lot of fun to be with.
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It is even said that he likes beautiful
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women as much as I do, and many
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of them are on the younger side, Trump
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told the magazine.
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Over the years, the two have been spotted
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many times in public together.
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This NBC video shows Trump and Epstein socializing
16:26
in 1992 at a party at Trump's Mar
16:29
-a-Lago estate.
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The video, released in 2019, shows Trump appearing
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to say to Epstein, look at her back
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there, she's hot, while Epstein smiles and nods.
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Former swimsuit model Stacey Williams, who dated Epstein
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in 1993, told CNN in an interview, Trump
16:46
was Epstein's wingman.
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They were best friends.
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They were very close and they were up
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to no good.
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Wait a minute, she didn't actually say wingman.
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But why didn't they put the wingman, the
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nat pup in there?
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Oh, good catch.
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Yeah, she didn't say that.
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Yeah, this is one of those classic examples
17:03
that we keep pointing out on the show
17:05
over and over again, where the host says
17:07
one thing and the exemplary clip that they
17:11
bring into play doesn't say it at all.
17:13
Look at her back there, she's hot, while
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Epstein smiles and nods.
17:18
Former swimsuit model Stacey Williams, who dated Epstein
17:21
in 1993, told CNN in an interview, Trump
17:24
was Epstein's wingman.
17:26
So she's literally saying she told CNN in
17:29
an interview that Trump was Epstein's wingman.
17:33
This is their archive footage, I presume, and
17:35
yet she doesn't say that.
17:38
They were best friends.
17:39
They were very close and they were up
17:40
to no good.
17:41
The two men flew together as well.
17:42
Being up to no good is not the
17:44
same as being a wingman.
17:45
No, definitely not.
17:46
And I like this, he flew on the
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jet.
17:48
Yeah, but not with Epstein.
17:50
And they were up to no good.
17:51
The two men flew together as well.
17:53
These flight logs show Trump traveled on Epstein's
17:56
jet four times in 1993, twice in 1994,
18:00
and once in 1995 and in 1997.
18:03
The logs were made public during Ghislaine Maxwell's
18:06
2021 trial, where she was convicted of sex
18:09
trafficking, among other things.
18:11
Epstein also attended Trump's wedding to Marla Maples
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at New York's Plaza Hotel in 1993.
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In 1997, Trump added this personal note to
18:19
Epstein inside a copy of his book, The
18:22
Art of the Comeback.
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It reads, To Jeff, you are the greatest,
18:26
according to the New York Times.
18:27
That same year, the two men were photographed
18:29
together at Mar-a-Lago.
18:31
Wow, I don't even get the joke.
18:32
That's a joke that you could have made.
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Yeah, it would be my type of joke.
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Yeah, I like that joke.
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You are the greatest, according to the New
18:40
York Times.
18:41
That same year, the two men were photographed
18:43
together at Mar-a-Lago.
18:45
This exclusive CNN video shows Epstein and Trump
18:48
chatting in 1999 before a Victoria's Secret fashion
18:51
show.
18:52
Yeah, so okay, so nothing.
18:55
Where did that come from?
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What was that report?
18:56
That was CNN.
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Oh, brother.
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CNN, yeah.
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And I won't bore you with the…
19:03
Anderson Cooper had the grief.
19:06
By the way, CNN was brought into play
19:08
in the newsletter, the last newsletter as the
19:10
hypocrite of the week.
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Yeah, the newsletter was good, actually.
19:14
I liked the newsletter because we invoked the
19:19
inverse Fredericksburg theory, which was perfect.
19:24
The inverse Fredericksburg theory where the word around…
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Well, yes, on the show we did.
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Yes, where the word around town was, 90
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days.
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And then we, of course, concluded, well, that
19:35
means it will end any minute now.
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Yeah, any minute.
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And it did.
19:39
It ended right after the show.
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Grids going down.
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No, the grid's not going to go down.
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Don't worry about it.
19:45
That's the inverse Fredericksburg theme.
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Yes, the inverse.
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That's actually, that's a good phrase.
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Yeah.
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And we should note it because it's been
19:53
100% accurate.
19:54
It has.
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100%.
19:56
And I think you were correct in asserting
19:59
that this was all done to get through
20:04
these, the democratic sweep, the sweep of governors
20:10
and mayors and other people.
20:13
Prop 50.
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Prop 50.
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One thing after another, yeah.
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Which surprisingly passed.
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And you said it would never pass.
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No, no.
20:20
No, I never said it would never pass.
20:22
I said it will never get implemented because
20:25
as we talked about months ago, because when
20:29
it was first being thought of, the redistricting
20:32
thing, before it was actually a proposition, but
20:34
they were talking about doing it in Texas.
20:36
Yeah.
20:37
There were some of the local yokels on
20:40
the Commonwealth Club saying, yeah, well, the Republicans
20:43
tried doing this too, and they got it
20:44
passed, and the courts struck it down, and
20:46
this is going to get struck down too.
20:48
Ah, okay.
20:49
Well, who was challenging it before the court?
20:51
It's being challenged by a number of groups,
20:54
and the rationale for the challenge is quite
20:56
good.
20:57
Okay.
20:57
It's a racial thing.
20:59
It's racism.
21:01
They are making new districts based on race,
21:04
and that's illegal, and it's unconstitutional, and it's
21:06
going to get struck down.
21:07
It's a bull crap thing.
21:08
You're telling me the Democrats are racist?
21:10
What?
21:11
Yeah.
21:11
I've heard about this.
21:13
I can't prove it, but I've heard it.
21:15
So I do have a North Sea Nexus
21:18
stuff, but I would— I have a North
21:20
Sea Nexus.
21:21
And by the way, I'm disliking the term.
21:24
Why?
21:25
Because the Spanish have a monarchy, and— Yeah,
21:32
they're part of it.
21:33
Yes, they're part of it.
21:34
Yeah, but they're not in the North Sea.
21:36
That's the problem I'm having.
21:37
Well, if you go far enough to the
21:39
north— They're right on the Mediterranean.
21:42
It's nowhere near there.
21:43
But we have jingles and everything.
21:46
You cannot.
21:47
I just like the idea of a monarchy
21:50
being thrown in, because there's a monarchic aspect
21:53
to this.
21:54
Everyone is already used to North Sea Nexus.
21:56
Well, I'm not going to kick it off
21:58
the boat.
21:59
I'm just saying I dislike it.
22:00
It's like the Eurovision Song Contest, including Israel.
22:03
I mean, come on.
22:04
It's like— Well, that's exactly what we're dealing
22:06
with.
22:07
We should be able to do this.
22:08
I have a North Sea Nexus clip.
22:10
Why don't we wait with the North Sea
22:11
Nexus?
22:12
You have like 8,000 clips about Kimmel.
22:15
This must be weighing very heavy on you.
22:18
Well, let me explain.
22:19
Okay.
22:20
Most of these clips are short, as you
22:22
noticed.
22:22
Okay.
22:24
I felt like I was— This was from
22:29
a podcast called We Can Do Hard Things
22:32
that's run by three lesbians.
22:34
Okay.
22:36
A famous lesbian couple, a famous lesbian couple,
22:40
an author and her— Well, how famous are
22:42
they?
22:44
The woman, I have to go look them
22:46
up, their names, because I can't keep remembering
22:48
them.
22:48
Because they're so famous.
22:49
No, she's super famous.
22:50
She's got written a bunch of lesbian books.
22:53
She's a super famous author.
22:56
And her Diesel-Dyke wife is a famous
23:01
U.S. soccer player and a soccer coach.
23:04
These are not slouches, but I never heard
23:07
of them.
23:07
But they're not slouches in the scheme of
23:09
things.
23:10
Glennon Doyle, Abby Wambach, and Amanda Doyle?
23:14
Yeah.
23:15
Okay.
23:15
Super famous.
23:17
That's what I feel, too.
23:19
But you look them up, especially Glenda, and
23:22
they're famous.
23:23
But they're only famous in lesbian circles.
23:26
Oh.
23:27
You're not a lesbian.
23:28
No.
23:28
I'm not a lesbian.
23:29
Who are we to say what's famous?
23:32
Who's a famous lesbian?
23:34
We can't do it.
23:34
And we are famously out of touch.
23:37
We're old boomers.
23:38
We don't know who the famous young lesbian
23:41
authors are.
23:42
Have you checked this for authenticity?
23:45
Yes, I did.
23:46
And I did enough research to indicate that,
23:49
yes, they're famous lesbians.
23:52
So this qualifies as media deconstruction because it's
23:55
not just a podcast.
23:56
It's a podcast hosted by famous lesbians.
24:00
Yes, exactly.
24:01
All right.
24:01
I'm in.
24:02
I'm in.
24:03
And so Jimmy Kimmel and his wife, who
24:06
live next door to the famous lesbians, decided
24:10
to do their podcast.
24:12
And they revealed a lot to an extreme,
24:15
I think, because they were so relaxed with
24:17
these lesbians that it's just...
24:20
Because they're neighbors.
24:21
To me, I felt like Sigmund Freud and
24:27
who walked into my office but a sexually
24:32
perverted, schizophrenic, bipolar, paranoid, screwball nutjob of the
24:40
highest order that I'd never see or witness
24:43
again in my entire life.
24:44
And that would be Jimmy Kimmel?
24:47
No, actually, Jimmy Kimmel's wife.
24:50
Oh, well, this explains a lot about him.
24:54
Mollie.
24:55
Mollie Kimmel.
24:56
Mollie McNerney.
24:58
Is she related to the other McNerney?
25:02
No, no, no.
25:03
This is a different spelling.
25:04
It's totally different.
25:06
At any point, did anyone in the podcast
25:08
say, hey, stop clamming up?
25:10
Or did that not happen?
25:14
So, brother, you got a little list there
25:16
or something that you refer to for these
25:18
kinds of jokes?
25:18
Yeah, it's called the troll room.
25:21
Okay, what am I thinking?
25:22
They're on point.
25:23
What am I thinking?
25:25
So, just to give you an indicator, I'm
25:29
going to play the two clips of the
25:30
opening.
25:31
Now, when you're introduced to a podcast, this
25:35
is the...
25:35
I always have to tell you what these
25:37
clips are specifically because they're put together in
25:40
a very awkward way.
25:41
Yes, I can tell.
25:43
So, the one you're looking for here for
25:44
the starter is Kimmel and Wife 1.
25:48
And before you play it, this is a
25:51
short nine seconds.
25:52
So, you go on a podcast.
25:54
Yeah.
25:55
And you usually, someone says, hi, how are
25:57
you doing?
25:58
And you usually say, hi, hello, or whatever.
26:00
You know, it's a phony, baloney, greedy.
26:02
Listen to the way they begin.
26:04
How's it going?
26:06
Hi, guys.
26:07
How are you doing?
26:08
Good.
26:09
I might cry.
26:11
I'm just seeing your faces.
26:14
Wow.
26:15
So, Kimmel says, hi, guys.
26:18
And the first thing she says is not
26:20
hello.
26:20
No, I'm going to cry.
26:21
I'm going to cry.
26:23
I'm going to say that next time I'm
26:24
on Rogan.
26:25
I say, hey, Joe, hey, brother, I'm about
26:28
to cry.
26:28
It's just so good to see you.
26:30
Okay.
26:30
Now, Kimmel tries to soften the blow with
26:33
Kimmel Wife 2.
26:36
Kimmel Wife...
26:37
Wait.
26:38
Kimmel and...
26:38
Oh, Kimmel Wife 2.
26:39
I got it.
26:40
You cry on every podcast.
26:42
No, I already don't feel special.
26:45
It's not true.
26:46
Can you cry hardest today, Molly?
26:48
I will definitely cry the hardest here.
26:50
Thank you.
26:50
To see Sissy.
26:51
Oh, my God.
26:52
This is so exciting.
26:54
Oh, man.
26:55
Oh, but this is neighbor talk.
26:57
Do they have to take a bus to
26:59
their neighbor?
27:00
Do they live in one of those homes,
27:01
like those really big homesteads in Beverly...
27:04
No, Beverly Hills is close together.
27:05
In Brentwood.
27:06
Yeah, they're pretty...
27:07
They're right next door.
27:08
Okay.
27:08
All right.
27:10
I could jump to the one clip.
27:12
I mean, I can play all these clips.
27:13
I'm going to play...
27:14
Roll the way you want to, man.
27:15
I'm ready.
27:16
I'm excited.
27:18
Let's...
27:18
Okay, well, the thing that...
27:20
So far, it's not paying off, but I'm
27:22
excited.
27:23
The thing...
27:25
There it is again, ladies and gentlemen.
27:27
You know, I have to say, I got
27:28
a note from Julie.
27:32
Julie Sensman.
27:33
Yes, good old Julie.
27:34
And Julie says, Adam, I wish you and
27:37
John would not have talked about how mean
27:39
you are to him, because now I notice
27:42
it all the time.
27:47
There it is.
27:48
It's all subtle.
27:50
It's all resentful.
27:51
It's very...
27:52
It's noticeable.
27:52
It's noticeable.
27:55
Okay.
27:56
So we go with it.
27:57
We go with it.
27:58
Now, this...
27:59
What triggered my fascination, and I don't want
28:03
to belabor this and make it a 40
28:05
-minute presentation, but it was...
28:07
A chunk of this was presented on every
28:10
Fox show about her being upset with, you
28:15
know, her relatives, and that's all they left
28:17
it at.
28:17
They left all the good stuff out.
28:20
And I want to start with some of
28:21
this stuff, and let's go with...
28:23
This, I think, is part of the two
28:25
-parter that they played everywhere, at least chunks
28:29
of it everywhere, to make her look like
28:31
an idiot.
28:31
And by the way, she is.
28:34
She is, and she's always scolding him, and
28:37
she's always saying, She says that a lot.
28:43
And he's just...
28:44
He's a beaten man, and it's almost pathetic
28:47
to watch.
28:48
And the last clip that I play in
28:50
this presentation is extremely pathetic, and I leave
28:53
it for the end.
28:53
This is Kimmel and wife losses.
28:57
Losses.
28:58
Okay.
28:58
A long one.
28:59
Yep, I got you.
29:00
This is random, but I think about it
29:02
all the time with you guys.
29:03
You come from a pretty conservative family.
29:06
Yes.
29:07
I just...
29:08
Not me, but mom.
29:09
No, not you.
29:10
And I just wonder, what is Thanksgiving?
29:13
It's one thing to come from a conservative
29:15
family and just sort of deprogram yourself and
29:18
go along your life.
29:20
But what is it like to come from
29:22
a conservative family and then become the Mockingjay
29:26
of the other side?
29:29
Mockingjay?
29:29
Well, it's definitely been challenging.
29:32
Thankfully, my immediate family, they did not vote
29:36
for Donald Trump.
29:37
They did the first time, a few of
29:40
them.
29:40
We flipped them the second time.
29:44
It's weird.
29:46
When Donald Trump was first elected, I was
29:48
so upset.
29:49
We all were.
29:50
But I remember thinking, I understand it, because
29:53
I grew up in a very conservative Republican
29:57
house.
29:57
I bought my dad a Rush Limbaugh tie
30:00
in high school.
30:01
I voted Republican straight ticket, and that's what
30:05
I was told to do.
30:06
And then I left St. Louis, Missouri, and
30:09
I met people from different backgrounds, and I
30:12
started to understand different things and different needs
30:15
and different people.
30:16
So there's a little bit of sympathy I
30:19
have for people in my family that I
30:21
feel are kind of being deliberately misinformed every
30:25
day.
30:26
Not kind of.
30:27
Yeah.
30:28
They're deliberately being misinformed every day, and they
30:31
believe it.
30:32
But it hurts me so much because of
30:36
the personal relationship I now have where my
30:39
husband is out there fighting this man.
30:42
And to me, them voting for Trump is
30:46
them not voting for my husband and me
30:49
and our family.
30:50
And I unfortunately have kind of lost relationships
30:54
with people in my family because of it.
30:56
Obviously, I read the New York Times all
31:00
day long, mainly on my iPad app.
31:04
It's her.
31:05
It's her.
31:07
Wow.
31:07
And so Jimmy Kimmel is fighting Donald Trump.
31:11
This man.
31:13
This man.
31:13
This man of mine.
31:14
He is fighting, fighting Donald.
31:16
This is sad to hear, actually.
31:19
So far, you've only made me sad.
31:21
Yeah, this is not going to be uplifting.
31:23
I'll just give you that warning.
31:25
Okay.
31:25
It's pathetic.
31:27
And the fact that there are people out
31:29
there like this, and now you have to
31:30
remember that she is the head writer of
31:32
the Kimmel Show and the executive producer.
31:36
Oh.
31:37
How did she get that gig?
31:39
She started off as an intern, I think
31:43
when the show first began about 20 years
31:47
ago, and she worked her way up and
31:48
took over the show.
31:50
Wow.
31:51
Well, that's a rags to riches story.
31:55
Yeah, well, she seems like an aggressive woman.
31:59
And she not only took over the show,
32:01
but she married Jimmy.
32:02
So she was the writer on the show,
32:04
and they met on the show.
32:07
Yeah, yeah.
32:07
It's sexist.
32:09
That's illegal in some states.
32:11
So when did the lesbians come in?
32:13
Because so far, it's like...
32:14
The lesbians will be explained at the end.
32:18
When they moved to this new house, that's
32:20
when they discovered the lesbians were next door.
32:22
The lesbians are talking on and off.
32:25
You can't tell the difference.
32:26
One of those great shows where everybody's voice
32:28
is exactly the same.
32:30
But most of this is Molly.
32:32
Okay.
32:33
So, I mean, the lesbians are very...
32:36
I'm just trying to clip Molly.
32:37
Here's Molly again, and this is part two
32:39
of that clip.
32:41
This is losses two.
32:44
It's like...
32:45
This is not just Republican versus Democrat for
32:47
me anymore.
32:48
It is, to me, it's family values.
32:51
And it's really hard for me, because I
32:53
grew up believing in these Christian ideals of
32:56
taking care of the sick and taking care
32:58
of the poor, and I don't see that
32:59
happening with this Republican Party.
33:01
And so I feel like I'm kind of
33:04
in constant conflict, and I'm angry all the
33:07
time, which isn't healthy at all.
33:09
But I personalize everything now.
33:12
When I see these terrible stories every day,
33:15
I'm immediately mad at certain aunts, uncles, cousins
33:18
who put him in power.
33:19
Wow.
33:20
It's really hard.
33:22
I wish I could deprogram myself in some
33:25
way, but I get really angry.
33:28
Oh, no.
33:28
Come to Bridge Church.
33:30
We'll take care of you.
33:30
Don't worry if you want to be deprogrammed.
33:32
That's unlikely.
33:34
I feel really bad for her.
33:36
She gets mad at her family for putting
33:38
him in power?
33:41
Yeah.
33:42
Jeez.
33:43
So here we go with the...
33:46
This is a little later, and this comes
33:50
up, because I just thought it was connected.
33:52
And this is the Kimmel and wife final
33:58
resentment clip.
34:00
Every time I go to a fundraiser, and
34:02
we do a lot of fundraising and donating
34:04
to candidates and causes, I go, of course
34:07
I'm going to give this.
34:08
But I'd rather be giving it to Children's
34:10
Hospital right now.
34:12
And I'm giving money so I can make
34:14
sure this woman who should definitely be elected
34:16
gets elected.
34:17
Like, duh, of course this woman should win.
34:20
Why are we voting for this clown?
34:21
And I get resentful of the amount of
34:24
energy we all have to push forward so
34:27
we don't keep falling back.
34:28
I'm like, can we just keep going this
34:30
way?
34:31
And we just keep getting yanked back and
34:32
yanked back.
34:33
And I get really resentful of people in
34:36
my life that I feel like put us
34:38
there.
34:40
Causes and candidates.
34:42
Wow.
34:43
There's always women involved, by the way.
34:45
She's a very feminist woman.
34:46
Well, isn't this exactly, although she's not middle
34:49
class, but she's upper class, upper class white
34:53
woman.
34:54
Yeah, she's the classic.
34:55
Very classic.
34:57
Now, I got two clips here.
34:59
This is where they tell the kids when
35:00
they got suspended for a couple of days.
35:04
It was such a big deal, national news.
35:06
Yeah.
35:07
And they have to tell the kids, and
35:08
so there's a lot of- It's not
35:12
like daddy lost his job from the factory.
35:15
I mean, they're going to be okay.
35:17
Well, this is an interesting- This shows
35:20
you the family dynamics.
35:22
They have brainwashed their kids.
35:24
If you listen to these clips carefully, it's
35:26
quite interesting.
35:28
And I don't believe there's any exaggeration or
35:31
embellishment with this discussion.
35:34
And there's a two-parter here, and this
35:36
is Kimmel and wife telling their kids.
35:40
And Jimmy let them know.
35:43
He said, my show has been suspended.
35:47
And our daughter immediately burst into tears.
35:49
And she said, I'll sell my labooboos.
35:55
And we told her, yeah, you should.
35:57
No, we did not.
35:58
We told her, no, you don't need to
35:59
do that.
36:00
You don't need to sell labooboos.
36:01
And our son asked if the president had
36:04
done this.
36:04
And we looked at each other, and we
36:07
didn't quite know how to answer that question.
36:09
I think I said yes.
36:10
We did.
36:11
We actually both said yes at the exact
36:12
same time.
36:13
We said yes, he did.
36:16
And it's weird, you know, because you don't
36:18
want your kids to- It's certainly not
36:20
an experience I had with my parents.
36:23
You know, I think every single parent who
36:27
has ever lost the job, there is that
36:30
heartbreaking moment.
36:31
I remember my daughter saying it when I
36:32
got fired for the seventh time.
36:35
Well, Dad, you know, I can help.
36:37
I think she actually said, can't you just
36:38
go to the money machine?
36:39
I think that's what she said.
36:42
Well, that's not the point of this clip.
36:44
No, I understand.
36:45
It's the indoctrination about the president.
36:49
Well, that and the idea that Trump fired
36:51
him.
36:52
Yeah, Trump, yes.
36:54
Because one kid says, oh, did the president
36:57
fire you?
36:57
And then they said, yeah, he did.
36:59
No, he didn't.
37:02
That's a lie.
37:03
Yeah.
37:05
That's just a blatant lie.
37:07
Well, I think we should call the Children
37:10
Protection Service.
37:11
Start a letter to the Times.
37:12
CPS.
37:14
Okay, so here's the second part of this.
37:16
This is Kimmel and wife, kids two.
37:18
To calm her down, you know, we said,
37:20
we're okay.
37:21
We're going to be fine.
37:22
You know, it's going to be okay.
37:23
This does not change your life.
37:25
It doesn't change your friends.
37:25
It doesn't change the memories you make.
37:27
We're going to be okay.
37:28
And we really, Jimmy and I think really
37:29
both believed that night the show was never
37:31
coming back.
37:33
So we were lying.
37:34
So we were lying.
37:35
Of course.
37:36
And then I went over to the pantry
37:37
and ate everything in it.
37:39
That's also true.
37:41
And I said to Jane, I said, and
37:44
Billy, I said, I want you guys to
37:45
know that it's really important you remember this
37:48
moment.
37:48
And I want you to remember this, that
37:49
your dad and his show are on the
37:52
right side of history.
37:53
I want you to remember that.
37:55
And my daughter very earnestly paused and she
37:58
said, I thought we were on the left.
38:10
Wow.
38:11
Kudos for sitting through this thing.
38:14
I couldn't get away from it.
38:16
I felt like again, Freud.
38:20
It was unbelievable.
38:21
So let's go on with a couple of
38:23
the side notes.
38:24
Besides that horrible thing to say, I thought
38:27
we were on the left.
38:29
What kind of kids?
38:30
These are kids.
38:31
They're not teenagers even.
38:33
Okay.
38:34
Here's here's Kimmel and his wife on about
38:36
the typical way they think.
38:39
And this is about they bring in Fox
38:40
News.
38:41
I thought this was enlightening.
38:43
Kimmel, Fox News.
38:45
Yeah.
38:45
Yeah.
38:45
They can watch.
38:46
They can watch Fox News all day.
38:48
But the hard part for me, this is
38:50
it's a strange position to be in.
38:51
It's like you personally know two humans in
38:55
your life.
38:55
You're related to our jobs here.
38:58
We don't tell lies.
38:59
We tell jokes.
39:00
But we are literally scouring the news every
39:03
day.
39:05
Presenting people the facts followed by jokes.
39:09
And if you can't, why are you to
39:11
me?
39:11
I go, why are you trusting that guy
39:13
over me?
39:14
This is exactly why late night television is
39:18
dying.
39:18
Is because everyone is a warrior.
39:21
Just tell some jokes.
39:23
Show the movie clip.
39:25
Ask the scripted questions and move on.
39:28
You know, she says that we're not lying.
39:31
Kimmel lied, probably with her writing, about how
39:35
it was a Trumper that killed Charlie Kirk.
39:38
And it wasn't.
39:38
That's a lie.
39:39
She lies on this show when she says
39:42
Trump fired Kimmel.
39:44
Trump had nothing to do with firing Kimmel.
39:46
He may have bitched and moaned, but he
39:47
didn't fire him.
39:49
He wasn't working for Trump.
39:51
So they are liars, these two.
39:53
And listen to the extent of it.
39:55
By the self brainwashing, this is Kimmel and
39:59
wife on Kimmel's client.
40:01
This is where Jimmy talks.
40:03
Which is rare in this interview, believe me.
40:05
This is where Jimmy actually gets to talk.
40:07
But his rant on climate is ludicrous.
40:12
Biden wasn't president anymore.
40:13
They're all over Trump.
40:15
And they'll be back to the other side
40:17
when the other side is in charge.
40:19
It's a ruse to make as much money
40:25
as they possibly can.
40:27
And eventually, I think that's going to come
40:30
back to bite them in the ass also.
40:32
I just don't think people are thinking in
40:34
the long term.
40:36
And that the greater good is more important
40:39
than individual good.
40:41
For the individual.
40:43
Agreed.
40:43
We look at what we do to the
40:46
climate.
40:47
It's like, hey, I can make a little
40:50
bit more money if I burn as much
40:53
fossil fuel as I possibly can.
40:55
It's like, oh, that's great.
40:57
It's going to be really hot.
40:59
You're not going to have water.
41:01
Trick or treating in a bikini.
41:03
Your grandchildren are going to be living in
41:05
a hellscape because you made a little bit
41:09
more money this year.
41:10
I think that we're going to, as a
41:13
society, going to look back at this time
41:16
and we're going to be really angry at
41:19
the people that made those decisions.
41:20
All of us.
41:21
Not just the left.
41:24
All of us are going to look back
41:25
and go, what the hell did these people
41:28
do to us?
41:29
Things were going pretty good on this planet.
41:32
And now look at where we are.
41:35
It's really, you know, it's hard not to
41:38
feel defeated.
41:38
It really is.
41:40
Do you think that he really means this
41:42
or is this virtue signaling to the extreme?
41:45
No, I think he means it.
41:46
I think he's been completely taken in by
41:48
it.
41:50
Well, I'm not feeling good.
41:52
Again, I'm not feeling good about this expose
41:54
of yours.
41:55
This makes me feel very, because, you know,
41:57
there's less, but almost half of America must
42:01
feel this way.
42:02
Yes.
42:03
They must speak this way.
42:03
I think we have to come to grips
42:05
with this.
42:05
I've come to grips with it, but the
42:07
confrontation is always saddening.
42:12
Well, I consider it pathetic.
42:15
So here's the last clip.
42:16
And this is the clip.
42:18
I think it's the last clip.
42:20
It better be.
42:22
This is the clip.
42:23
This is Kimmel and wife.
42:24
This is the final anecdote.
42:25
This is the story about how they met
42:27
the two lesbians, the lesbian couple next door.
42:30
The famous lesbian, even though you mocked me
42:32
for saying that.
42:33
But the famous lesbian and her famous partner
42:39
wife.
42:40
I think they're married.
42:41
I don't know.
42:42
I don't care.
42:44
And this indicates to me that Kimmel's wife
42:47
has got tons of problems.
42:49
For one thing, she recognized these people on
42:52
site and met.
42:53
I'm going to give you, this is a
42:54
briefing of what you're going to hear.
42:56
Yes, it's a lot of setup.
42:58
It's a big setup because it's the end.
43:01
So she is, I'm just trying to get
43:04
you into your mind's frame.
43:06
She knows who these lesbians are.
43:09
And they're the most famous people in her
43:10
life the way she sees it.
43:12
And she kind of went nuts when she
43:15
met them.
43:16
And then she embarrassed herself in a way
43:18
that is extremely insulting to Jimmy.
43:21
And I don't know whether he gets it
43:23
or not.
43:23
He does make a little sound in here
43:25
you'll hear.
43:26
And she is a horrible person for saying
43:30
what she's about to say.
43:32
Here we go.
43:33
We're neighbors.
43:34
And when you moved here, you DM'd us.
43:37
Right.
43:38
First of all, hold on one sec.
43:40
Let's just go back.
43:41
Before the DM happened, I had a full
43:44
freak out seeing both of you guys outside.
43:46
Yeah.
43:46
Oh, yes.
43:48
This was quite a night.
43:49
Really embarrassing.
43:50
Now, I want to remind you that I've
43:51
worked at this show for 23 years.
43:53
And we have, I think, met every possible
43:56
celebrity and political figure.
43:59
Unfazed.
44:00
I am on a walk.
44:01
I see you two.
44:03
And I just became undone.
44:05
I didn't know what to do.
44:07
I went, oh, hi, Glennon, Abby, hi, hi.
44:09
And then I did a thing that I
44:10
never do, which I identified myself as Jimmy's
44:14
wife, which was so gross.
44:16
I prefer it.
44:17
I said, hi, I'm Molly.
44:18
And you're like, who the hell is Molly?
44:19
I'm Jimmy Kimmel's wife.
44:21
And I wanted to die.
44:26
Yeah.
44:29
Kimmel in that little back and forth says,
44:31
I prefer it.
44:32
I prefer it.
44:34
Good luck.
44:36
And it was like, she's also a showrunner,
44:39
I should mention.
44:42
What she did there to him, I think,
44:46
was one of the most horrible things a
44:47
woman could ever do.
44:48
She was embarrassed that she was the wife
44:50
of Jimmy Kimmel.
44:53
And she was embarrassed to say that and
44:55
humiliated by it.
44:58
She obviously doesn't like men, doesn't like her
45:01
husband.
45:02
And she doesn't like anything.
45:04
She hates Republicans and she hates her own
45:06
family.
45:07
This is a horrible person.
45:13
And she runs the Jimmy Kimmel show.
45:15
So you wonder why the ratings are crap
45:17
on that show.
45:18
Yeah.
45:18
What are they going to do after?
45:20
Because eventually all late night has to go
45:24
away.
45:24
Well, they're going to have to get rid
45:25
of these shows.
45:26
Yeah.
45:26
I mean, it's possible that The Last Man
45:29
Standing can maintain enough numbers to stay in
45:32
business.
45:32
That would be The Tonight Show.
45:34
Yeah.
45:35
But this has got to end.
45:37
The North Sea Nexus Report.
45:42
With Adam Kern.
45:43
And John C.
45:44
Domorek.
45:45
Beware the North Sea Nexus.
45:53
All right.
45:54
See, we have jingles, so we can't change
45:56
the name.
45:56
But we're sticking with North Sea Nexus for
45:58
now.
45:58
John has a clip.
46:01
Yeah, I heard this clip and it was
46:02
totally like the way it was played as
46:05
a news item.
46:06
It was done kind of missing the point
46:09
that we brought up and you, I think,
46:11
in particular, brought up the fact that these,
46:16
I thought we may have both agreed on
46:18
it almost simultaneously, that these attacks on these
46:21
Venezuelan boats have got nothing to do with
46:29
us.
46:31
But it's a way to give it to
46:33
the, to kind of put the screws to
46:35
the North Sea Nexus.
46:36
Because the drug running is the big industry
46:39
and it all gets whitewashed through the City
46:43
of London banks.
46:44
Which brought me back to a thought which
46:47
I just kind of recollected, which you mentioned.
46:51
There's a show that I tried to watch
46:53
a couple of times.
46:54
It was on Netflix.
46:55
I'm not sure what it is.
46:56
But it's a show about this, I guess,
47:00
some guy, King, or it's a royal show.
47:03
But it's set in modern times and in
47:05
the background, the guy's growing marijuana.
47:08
Oh, yeah.
47:10
This is a show you liked.
47:12
He's a lord.
47:12
I found it unwatchable.
47:14
He inherits the estate and they're growing marijuana
47:18
on the estate.
47:21
Unbeknownst to him at the time.
47:22
Yes, I can't remember the name of it,
47:24
but yes.
47:25
Great show.
47:26
It's a great show whose name eludes you.
47:30
Well, I watch a lot of shows.
47:33
Well, that show, which I didn't find watchable.
47:36
You liked it.
47:37
I did.
47:38
I liked it a lot.
47:39
And it was brought to mind when I
47:42
heard this story.
47:43
But if you think of the backdrop of
47:46
our analysis that these Venezuelan boats are headed
47:50
to basically headed to a transfer point so
47:53
this stuff can go to Europe, not here.
47:57
This story makes it very funny.
47:59
This is the aha story, UK concerns.
48:01
NPR.
48:02
European countries have raised concerns about America's military
48:05
buildup in the Caribbean, but Secretary of State
48:07
Marco Rubio says no one brought it up
48:09
with him at a G7 meeting in Canada,
48:11
as NPR's Michelle Kellerman reports.
48:13
Wrapping up his two-day visit to Canada,
48:16
Secretary Rubio brushed off reports that the U
48:18
.K. is withholding certain intelligence from the U
48:21
.S. because of concerns about deadly strikes on
48:24
alleged drug boats from Venezuela.
48:26
We have very strong partnerships with the U
48:28
.K. and other countries.
48:28
Again, nothing has changed or happened that has
48:31
impeded in any way our ability to do
48:33
what we're doing, nor are we asking anyone
48:35
to help us with what we're doing in
48:36
any realm, and that includes military.
48:38
Rubio says the U.S. has plenty of
48:40
military assets in the region that can collect
48:42
intelligence for what he calls a counter-narcotics
48:45
campaign, and he says this issue never came
48:48
up during his meetings with other G7 foreign
48:51
ministers.
48:53
Yeah, the show is called The Gentleman.
48:56
It's a Guy Ritchie series, The Gentleman.
48:59
Right, The Gentleman.
49:00
So this, of course, everyone latched onto this
49:04
knowing about the North Sea Nexus.
49:05
My timeline was filled with it.
49:07
And I love this because I didn't have
49:09
this angle from Rubio saying, well, nothing has
49:12
changed.
49:12
That would make it harder for us.
49:15
But the U.K. definitely let out a
49:20
story.
49:20
I don't think there was anyone on record
49:22
saying, hey, you know, we don't want to
49:26
participate in this.
49:27
Knock it off.
49:27
Listen to the CNN version of this.
49:30
Just into the Situation Room, the United Kingdom
49:32
is suspending some intelligence sharing with the United
49:35
States because of the Trump administration's strikes against
49:39
alleged drug boats in the Caribbean.
49:42
Just into the Situation Room, by the way.
49:44
CNN national security correspondent Natasha Bertrand joins us
49:47
with her exclusive reporting.
49:48
Exclusive!
49:49
So this is so significant, Natasha, because the
49:53
U.K. is arguably the closest ally to
49:56
the United States when it comes to intelligence
49:58
sharing.
49:58
And now on this issue, at least, it's
50:00
pulling back, right?
50:02
That's exactly right, Pam.
50:03
So previously, the U.K. had been a
50:05
very important intelligence sharing partner for the U
50:09
.S. in the Caribbean because, of course, the
50:11
U.K. has a number of territories in
50:12
the Caribbean.
50:13
They have an interest in helping to stop
50:15
the flow of drugs to the United States
50:18
and to elsewhere in the Caribbean.
50:19
OK, so when she says they have an
50:20
interest in stopping it, what I hear is
50:22
they obviously have an interest in moving the
50:25
drugs to the U.S. and the Caribbean.
50:27
In the Caribbean, because, of course, the U
50:29
.K. has a number of territories in the
50:31
Caribbean.
50:31
They have an interest in helping to stop
50:33
the flow of drugs to the United States
50:36
and to elsewhere in the Caribbean.
50:37
Why do they have an interest in that?
50:39
This is not explained.
50:41
Why do they have an interest in stopping
50:42
it?
50:43
Obviously, she says.
50:44
I don't know.
50:44
Is that so obvious?
50:45
I don't think so.
50:47
It's not obvious to me.
50:48
It's not obvious to me either.
50:48
The flow of drugs to the United States
50:50
and to elsewhere in the Caribbean.
50:52
And so they would often share intelligence, given
50:54
the intelligence assets that they have down there,
50:56
with the U.S. to help the U
50:58
.S. Coast Guard interdict and arrest drug smugglers
51:02
and also to seize all of the narcotics
51:05
on board.
51:05
But that changed when the U.S. military
51:07
started actually blowing up these boats, using lethal
51:10
force against these vessels.
51:13
The U.K. was deeply uncomfortable with that,
51:15
felt that it violated international law.
51:18
And for that reason, it suspended that intelligence
51:21
sharing with the U.S. just over a
51:23
month ago, we're told, because it did not
51:25
want its intelligence and its information being used
51:27
by the U.S. military to carry out
51:29
these kinds of lethal attacks.
51:32
This is this is so incredible.
51:37
Yeah, we don't want to use intelligence that
51:39
gets people killed.
51:40
What?
51:41
Would you kill people over the entire world?
51:45
We've done nothing but kill civilians and people
51:49
everywhere with intelligence.
51:51
But now?
51:52
Oh, no.
51:53
Oh, we can't kill these guys.
51:55
By the way, when she says, you know,
51:58
obviously they want to grab the drugs.
51:59
Yeah, of course.
52:00
Because once the officials have the drugs, it's
52:02
much easier to distribute.
52:04
I mean, you really have to think of
52:05
it in these terms.
52:06
And we've talked about the drug trade for
52:10
since the beginning of this show.
52:11
I mean, do you remember when HSBC got
52:14
fined because they were laundering all the Mexican
52:19
cartel drug money into the U.S.? All
52:23
of it?
52:24
Oh, I mean, hundreds and hundreds of millions.
52:25
Yeah, right through their banks.
52:26
Yeah, right through the banks.
52:28
Hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars in
52:30
cash went in on the Mexican side.
52:32
And what was popped out on the other
52:34
side?
52:34
And then CNN gets really creative.
52:36
Now, this comes amid a lot of skepticism.
52:39
I mean, broadly from legal experts, as well
52:42
as now we're seeing from the international community
52:44
about the legality of this U.S. military
52:46
campaign.
52:47
Legality?
52:49
We have reported previously that the U.S.
52:51
Southern Command commander offered to resign last month
52:55
because he had been raising questions about the
52:58
legality of these strikes.
53:00
Bullshit.
53:01
And he is set to retire early next
53:04
month.
53:04
We got the inside track on that.
53:07
The guy just retired early.
53:09
He was just tired.
53:10
At no point did he say, this is
53:13
an outrage.
53:14
We're killing civilians.
53:15
I want out.
53:18
It just didn't happen.
53:20
One year into his tenure as the Southern
53:22
Command chief.
53:23
And so there have been a lot of
53:25
questions here about whether the U.S. military
53:27
campaign is legal.
53:29
It's not legal.
53:30
We're actually seeing that play out in practice
53:32
with the U.K. saying we don't believe
53:35
that these strikes are in keeping with international
53:39
law.
53:39
We believe that they are illegal.
53:40
And we don't want to be complicit in
53:42
them.
53:42
That is really the key here.
53:43
They don't want their information being used to
53:46
target individuals on vessels that are then going
53:49
to be killed who are in the U
53:52
.K. These are our employees.
53:53
Stop killing them.
53:54
Of course, the U.S. has argued that
53:56
they are enemy combatants, and they don't want
53:59
that to be on their hands.
54:02
And so now we are seeing the suspension
54:03
of intelligence sharing.
54:04
Unclear how long that's actually going to last.
54:07
But there's a lot of ambivalence here about
54:10
the U.S. military's operations, both in the
54:12
Caribbean and increasingly in the eastern Pacific.
54:15
So why don't we listen to the BBC
54:17
and see how the BBC positioned this.
54:20
Now there are reports that Britain has stopped
54:23
sharing intelligence with the U.S. in the
54:25
Caribbean.
54:26
Our State Department correspondent Tom Bateman is at
54:28
the G7 meeting in Canada from where he
54:31
spoke to Justin Webb.
54:33
I mean, my sense from the Americans is
54:35
that I think this is happening.
54:37
You won't get anyone to confirm it on
54:39
the record because this is about intelligence sharing.
54:42
But it seems that, you know, as the
54:44
reports suggest, that the U.K. has declined
54:49
to share certain limited amounts of intelligence with
54:54
the Americans when it comes to something they
54:55
were doing in the Caribbean, which was to
54:58
pass on details of suspected drug smuggling boats
55:01
to a task force in Florida.
55:03
And it appears to be the case that
55:05
that is not now happening.
55:07
And the concern, I think, on the British
55:09
side, according to the reporting, is that there
55:13
is a concern this would be complicit in
55:15
potentially illegal activity, as in the American strikes
55:18
on alleged drug smuggling boats.
55:21
And you will hear people say, well, the
55:23
Brits actually, you know, don't contribute necessarily a
55:26
huge amount there because the Americans are the
55:28
dominant sort of military force there.
55:30
But Britain does have naval assets there.
55:32
And there is clearly some value to the
55:35
intelligence in that region.
55:37
I have never heard anything like this.
55:40
I have never heard.
55:41
There's never that I can recall been a
55:43
report.
55:44
We're not sharing intelligence because, you know, you
55:47
might be killing people.
55:48
What?
55:50
This is so clear to me.
55:53
There's a second part to this.
55:54
Give us a sense of the scale of
55:55
it.
55:55
We know that Donald Trump has been attacking
55:57
these boats and we know that his
55:59
administration
56:10
has defended the attacks on them.
56:13
What is actually happening and what are they
56:15
intending to do?
56:16
Well, what they've done so far is they've
56:17
blown up at least 19 of these small
56:20
boats, killing more than 70 people.
56:23
The Trump administration says that these are, in
56:25
their words, narco terrorists, that they're people that
56:28
are delivering, you know, illegal drugs.
56:29
Drugs to America that are killing in each
56:32
boat.
56:32
They say 25,000 people will be killed
56:37
by the drugs on each boat.
56:38
Although those numbers simply don't stack up at
56:40
all.
56:41
If you look at the numbers that die
56:42
from fentanyl overdoses each year, for example.
56:45
And their view is very strongly.
56:48
Here they're very cavalier.
56:49
It's like it's not that many people.
56:51
What's your problem?
56:51
I mean, we can't kill 70 drug runners.
56:54
We've got to stop Intel sharing.
56:55
But 25,000, those numbers don't stack up.
56:59
Well, what he's doing is he's extrapolating that,
57:03
say, approximately 20 boats that were blown up.
57:06
And each one would be 25,000 people
57:08
times 20.
57:08
It's more than the annual death toll, just
57:12
mathematically.
57:14
But it's like, OK, this is another Trump
57:16
lie, I guess.
57:18
Although those numbers simply don't stack up at
57:21
all.
57:21
If you look at the numbers that die
57:22
from fentanyl overdoses each year, for example.
57:25
And their view is very strongly that this
57:28
is a war on America by Latin American
57:31
drugs cartels.
57:32
And that it then therefore justifies the extension
57:36
of terrorism designations.
57:38
And effectively the use of the laws of
57:41
arms conflict against drug smugglers.
57:44
The counter argument, and we've heard this from
57:46
a lot of lawmakers on Capitol Hill.
57:49
Is that this is both in breach of
57:51
American and international law.
57:53
Because this is a criminal enterprise that should
57:56
be dealt with as it was before through
57:58
law enforcement.
58:00
OK.
58:00
All right.
58:01
So all of a sudden now the BBC.
58:03
Good.
58:05
So I'm going to reach back to the
58:07
end of the last show.
58:09
Because there's a couple of things that happened
58:10
with this report that came out.
58:13
And the report, you can call it a
58:15
whistleblower, I guess.
58:16
But it was really someone, this guy, what's
58:21
his name?
58:24
His name evades me at the moment.
58:28
He was on the editorial board for the
58:31
BBC.
58:32
And he had written several times to the
58:35
muckety muck saying, hey, you know, there's a
58:39
lot wrong.
58:40
You know, it's the Telegraph revealed all this.
58:44
What is the guy's name here?
58:46
Prescott.
58:47
There you go.
58:48
He was an independent advisor to the BBC's
58:50
editorial guidelines and standards board.
58:54
And he highlighted in a very lengthy memo,
58:57
Lincoln show notes, very lengthy.
59:00
A number of issues with the BBC's reporting.
59:03
And we have to know that we have
59:05
to recall that the BBC is a worldwide
59:09
news organization.
59:11
They got BBC America, which it is quite
59:13
big.
59:14
And a lot of other organizations look to
59:17
the BBC, will refer to the BBC as
59:19
an authority.
59:20
They're seen by the British as, you know,
59:23
the highest of high authority.
59:25
Forget, you know, Savile and all the other
59:27
pedophiles they found inside the BBC.
59:29
OK, we'll just shove that to the side.
59:32
You know, they pay a specific.
59:35
Why not?
59:36
They pay an annual fee.
59:39
It's a license fee.
59:40
And that was done today.
59:41
They the British public.
59:42
Yes.
59:43
Specifically, I think you have to pay a
59:45
license fee in England to watch TV.
59:48
Yes.
59:49
And that was done specifically so that it
59:50
was not tied to taxes.
59:53
So that what could, of course, what happened
59:55
here is, oh, we defunded NPR and PBS.
59:58
We didn't really, but just one percent by
1:00:00
their own admission.
1:00:02
But they didn't want it ever to become
1:00:03
political.
1:00:04
So this is the end the BBC World
1:00:06
Service.
1:00:06
I mean, this is a very, very large
1:00:09
organization.
1:00:11
A lot of news organizations look to the
1:00:13
BBC and BBC has a partnership they entered
1:00:18
into in 2021 with CBS News.
1:00:21
So there's news sharing, which is incredibly dangerous
1:00:25
when you think about it.
1:00:26
I don't know what Barry Weiss will do
1:00:28
about it.
1:00:29
Nothing.
1:00:30
Probably not.
1:00:31
So I'm just going to replay this.
1:00:33
I've tightened it up a little bit.
1:00:34
This is the Donald Trump, January 6 edit.
1:00:37
And then there's a couple of other things
1:00:39
need to highlight about this very, very highbrow
1:00:43
BBC reporting outfits.
1:00:45
Well, it's the biggest story in town.
1:00:46
It turns out American President Donald Trump was
1:00:48
onto something.
1:00:50
Where are you from?
1:00:51
BBC.
1:00:52
Here's another beauty.
1:00:54
It's a good line.
1:00:56
Impartial, free and fair.
1:00:57
Well, that criticism of the BBC and John
1:01:02
Sopel, he was talking to there, apparently was
1:01:04
well-founded because the so-called impartial and
1:01:06
accurate public service broadcaster is nothing but.
1:01:10
Because tonight, the BBC is facing serious questions
1:01:12
over its credibility after the Daily Telegraph exposed
1:01:15
a panorama segment that heavily doctored a speech
1:01:19
by the American president in 2021, hours before
1:01:23
the infamous January the 6th Capitol riot.
1:01:25
As you're about to hear, the corporation spliced
1:01:28
together two quotes one hour apart to make
1:01:31
it seem like he encouraged an insurrection.
1:01:35
They played the following clip.
1:01:37
We're going to walk down to the Capitol
1:01:40
and I'll be there with you.
1:01:43
And we fight.
1:01:44
We fight like hell.
1:01:46
But Trump didn't, in fact, say this at
1:01:48
all.
1:01:48
The BBC spliced together two clips that took
1:01:52
place 54 minutes apart.
1:01:55
So let's go through it again.
1:01:59
We're going to walk down.
1:02:04
Now, see that between Capitol and and that's
1:02:09
a cut.
1:02:10
Here's what Trump actually said.
1:02:12
We're going to walk down to the Capitol.
1:02:17
And we're going to cheer on our brave
1:02:20
senators and congressmen and women.
1:02:23
It's different.
1:02:24
It wasn't until nearly an hour later that
1:02:27
he then said the second part of the
1:02:29
BBC's version.
1:02:30
We're going to walk down to the Capitol.
1:02:37
And we fight.
1:02:39
We fight like hell.
1:02:41
That is damning.
1:02:43
So the really interesting part of this is
1:02:47
that this panorama segment aired on November 2nd
1:02:53
worldwide, just days before the election.
1:02:57
The 2024 election.
1:02:59
The 2024 election clearly meant to sway opinion.
1:03:05
There's just no no other way you can
1:03:06
look at it.
1:03:07
Right.
1:03:08
Now, if we continue with this telegraph reveal,
1:03:12
the dossier, there's a lot of other things
1:03:15
that the BBC has been reporting on falsely,
1:03:20
knowingly falsely.
1:03:22
In April and June 2024, the BBC published
1:03:25
two stories about the discovery of mass graves
1:03:28
at Al Nasser and Al Shifa hospitals.
1:03:31
You remember this story, Gaza, according to the
1:03:35
internal BBC dossier.
1:03:36
The article strongly implied that Israeli forces had
1:03:40
buried bodies at both sites prior to withdrawing
1:03:43
from the area.
1:03:44
The articles also mentioned alleged evidence of war
1:03:47
crimes, including bodies found with their hands tied
1:03:50
and gunshot wounds to their heads.
1:03:52
But the BBC's own editorial standards committee was
1:03:55
told that this narrative was wrong.
1:03:59
The memo says that the most likely explanation
1:04:01
is that the mass graves were dug by
1:04:04
Palestinians themselves, and the people buried there had
1:04:08
died or been killed prior to the arrival
1:04:11
of the Israeli ground forces.
1:04:13
So the BBC made a mistake.
1:04:16
Well, perhaps.
1:04:17
But the committee argues that the broadcaster knew
1:04:19
that Palestinians were burying their dead at these
1:04:22
sites before the Israeli raids.
1:04:24
Whatever your personal views may be on the
1:04:27
actions of Israel in Gaza, implying a country
1:04:30
committed war crimes when there is evidence to
1:04:32
the contrary has serious ramifications, not least because
1:04:36
it could erode the credibility of genuine war
1:04:38
crime claims at a later date.
1:04:40
The very long Prescott memo also goes into
1:04:44
the the children death count, goes into the
1:04:49
they're starving them.
1:04:50
And the BBC actually would alter their reporting
1:04:54
on their website.
1:04:56
So I was like, well, the malnutrition and
1:04:58
then they would take out malnutrition a week
1:05:01
later, a week later, because it turned out
1:05:03
that they had genetic issues.
1:05:06
The BBC are just full of propagandistic liars.
1:05:09
And it's not always by lying in your
1:05:11
face.
1:05:11
It's, of course, also often by omission.
1:05:14
This internal BBC memo accuses the broadcaster of
1:05:18
censoring its stories about the trans debate in
1:05:21
it.
1:05:22
One of the BBC's own independent advisers repeatedly
1:05:25
warns that the broadcaster is exhibiting serious and
1:05:28
systemic problems.
1:05:30
But in the case of the trans issue,
1:05:32
it's not just how the content is reported
1:05:34
or edited or framed.
1:05:36
Instead, it's what audiences don't see that reveals
1:05:40
the one sided nature of their coverage.
1:05:42
Now, this dossier describes in damning terms allegations
1:05:46
that the BBC's specialist LGBTQ desk had been,
1:05:51
quote, captured by a small group of people
1:05:53
promoting the Stonewall view of the debate and
1:05:57
keeping other perspectives off air.
1:05:59
The way the BBC works is that different
1:06:02
news programmes have to share a pool of
1:06:04
reporters rather than having their own dedicated reporters,
1:06:07
which means that for stories about LGBTQ issues,
1:06:11
they have to use reporters from the LGBTQ
1:06:14
desk.
1:06:15
Crucially, though, the report claims that those reporters
1:06:18
refuse to cover any stories that raise what
1:06:22
are called difficult questions about the trans debate.
1:06:25
The dossier goes as far as to allege
1:06:27
that the BBC shares a constant drip feed
1:06:30
of one sided stories that celebrate the trans
1:06:34
experience without adequate balance or objectivity.
1:06:38
What?
1:06:39
Gambling?
1:06:40
Of course, this is the danger of a
1:06:43
desk.
1:06:44
How many times have we laughed about we're
1:06:46
going to peak now at the climate desk?
1:06:48
Well, of course, you have to use the
1:06:50
climate desk to get your climate information and
1:06:53
you get lies.
1:06:54
Now, the timing of all of this is
1:06:56
what was interesting to me the most.
1:06:58
Why now?
1:07:00
And I think it is part of a
1:07:02
counterattack against the North Sea nexus.
1:07:06
So we see now we're taking out their
1:07:08
drug money.
1:07:10
The Telegraph, which is the paper who do
1:07:14
videos, apparently the podcasts who reported all of
1:07:18
this.
1:07:19
They've been in some very serious trouble.
1:07:21
They, in fact, went into receivership in 2023
1:07:25
when Lloyd's Bank placed the parent company into
1:07:29
receivership over unpaid debts exceeding one billion pounds.
1:07:34
In May of 2025, Redbird Capital Partners, which
1:07:38
is a private equity firm, announced a 500
1:07:41
million pound deal to acquire full control with
1:07:46
international media investments of Abu Dhabi to take
1:07:49
a minority stake.
1:07:50
That didn't go anywhere because, hey, we can't
1:07:52
have a bunch of Abu Dhabi's running the
1:07:55
show.
1:07:55
However, just in this month of November, Redbird
1:08:00
secured funding from Apollo Global Management.
1:08:05
To acquire the Telegraph, who is Apollo Global
1:08:08
Management?
1:08:09
Well, this isn't we've talked about this outfit.
1:08:13
This is the I think one of the
1:08:15
directors had to step down.
1:08:17
Remember the Leon Black?
1:08:20
Yeah, he got kicked out of there for
1:08:22
some some nefarious activity, but he was set
1:08:27
up for some.
1:08:28
I'm sure he was set up.
1:08:29
But his co-founder, Mark Rowan, he still
1:08:32
runs the show.
1:08:33
And he's a friend of Trump.
1:08:36
He and his wife donated a million dollars
1:08:38
to Trump's 2020 presidential campaign.
1:08:40
They helped finance Trump's casino ventures back in
1:08:44
the day.
1:08:45
He was actually up for treasury secretary before
1:08:48
Scott Besson came in.
1:08:50
So to me, this sounds like an obvious
1:08:52
hit on the North Sea Nexus by Trump.
1:08:56
He's going after him because.
1:08:58
Well, I should mention one of our producers
1:09:00
is a Telegraph columnist.
1:09:03
That's Andrew Orlowski.
1:09:04
Have you spoken to him?
1:09:07
I recently I did.
1:09:08
We had a back and forth with him
1:09:09
because he's come up with he's got he's
1:09:11
a negative type of guy.
1:09:15
Yes.
1:09:16
And he's got a bunch of nasty stuff
1:09:18
to say about AI.
1:09:20
Yes.
1:09:21
Well, he's my friend.
1:09:23
Well, he's our friend.
1:09:25
He's the show's friend.
1:09:26
And I will I will probably reiterate some
1:09:29
of these things eventually.
1:09:30
Good.
1:09:31
So I came across an interview with Liz
1:09:34
Trust.
1:09:35
And Liz Trust was prime minister of the
1:09:37
U.K. for what, six weeks?
1:09:39
A couple of minutes.
1:09:41
She was in and out and she's very
1:09:43
open about what's really going on in the
1:09:46
U.K. and who's really running the show,
1:09:48
the deep state of the U.K. Well,
1:09:51
let's talk about the states or more specifically,
1:09:53
the deep states.
1:09:54
Could you stop the Bank of England?
1:09:56
Yes.
1:09:57
Let me just stop.
1:09:59
And throw a comment in.
1:10:00
Sure.
1:10:02
Now, personally.
1:10:05
I don't think the deep state.
1:10:08
Is a deep state when it's the monarchy,
1:10:12
which is the most upfront deep state you
1:10:15
can imagine.
1:10:16
I agree.
1:10:17
It's not a deep state because it's not
1:10:20
hiding.
1:10:20
No, it's the surface state.
1:10:23
Yeah.
1:10:23
But I said deep state because the interviewer
1:10:26
says deep state.
1:10:29
That's why I wanted to interrupt because it's
1:10:31
ludicrous to me that you'd call the monarchy
1:10:35
the deep state.
1:10:36
Well, also know that if you look at
1:10:38
the board of the boards of the BBC,
1:10:41
who's on it?
1:10:42
Lord such and such, sir.
1:10:44
You know, these are all people who are,
1:10:50
you know, receive knighthoods, you know, have peerage.
1:10:55
I mean, this is the the extended monarchy,
1:10:58
which, of course, initially got all of its
1:11:01
money from the East India Company, the West
1:11:05
India Company and the taxpayers and the taxpayers.
1:11:09
And they're still mad about America.
1:11:13
They really wanted it to be part of
1:11:14
their empire.
1:11:15
And we broke away from, of course, it
1:11:18
was initially.
1:11:19
Yeah.
1:11:19
OK.
1:11:20
The pilgrims came over and they ran away
1:11:22
because of religious issues.
1:11:23
And they wanted to make this into a
1:11:24
big Christian land.
1:11:26
And they didn't want the head, the king
1:11:28
being the head of the church.
1:11:30
But it was still Britain.
1:11:31
It was still the British tobacco company.
1:11:34
I mean, that's how it started.
1:11:36
But they always saw us as one of
1:11:38
their colonies.
1:11:39
And they really never gotten over the fact
1:11:42
that, you know, we're not a part of
1:11:44
the finger.
1:11:44
We basically gave them the finger.
1:11:47
Well, let's talk about the state or more
1:11:48
specifically, the deep states.
1:11:50
You say the Bank of England sabotaged you.
1:11:55
The Treasury.
1:11:56
Hold on a second.
1:11:57
I didn't hear that part.
1:11:59
So the Bank of England is the deep
1:12:02
state, too.
1:12:03
Yeah.
1:12:03
Yeah.
1:12:03
Well, probably.
1:12:04
But how is that deep state?
1:12:06
This is up front.
1:12:07
This is face a face forward.
1:12:10
We need a better term.
1:12:12
I'm in total agreement.
1:12:14
But it's the Bank of England.
1:12:16
Of course it is.
1:12:17
You know, and you can only imagine who
1:12:20
runs all that.
1:12:22
Tell me, tell our viewers and listeners about
1:12:24
this deep state and the people who really
1:12:26
are controlling our governments.
1:12:29
I think it's important for people to understand
1:12:31
because people think the prime minister is all
1:12:34
powerful or the chancellor is all powerful.
1:12:36
And they can go into government and they
1:12:37
can just pull the levers and things will
1:12:40
happen.
1:12:41
But actually, the government is controlled by the
1:12:44
permanent bureaucracy, by the civil service.
1:12:47
It's them who hire and fire the people
1:12:50
that work in the government.
1:12:51
They control the budgets of each government department.
1:12:55
They make the decisions about how policies are
1:12:58
implemented.
1:12:59
So even if a policy has been signed
1:13:01
off by a minister, it's a civil servant
1:13:04
who says whether it's legal.
1:13:05
It's a civil servant who implements it.
1:13:09
It's a civil servant who signs off the
1:13:11
budget for it.
1:13:12
And that gives those people a lot of
1:13:15
power.
1:13:16
Now, the Bank of England governor has what
1:13:19
I would describe as unaccountable power.
1:13:21
He's appointed for eight years.
1:13:23
He can pretty much only be sacked for
1:13:25
gross negligence.
1:13:26
So he is able to make decisions about
1:13:29
the economy independent of the elected government that
1:13:34
have massive implications for people's lives.
1:13:37
So what has happened and it's got particularly
1:13:39
bad in the last 30 years since Tony
1:13:42
Blair got into office, is lots of power
1:13:45
that used to sit in the hands of
1:13:47
elected people now sits in the hands of
1:13:51
the unelected.
1:13:51
This whole interview gave me a different view
1:13:53
of Liz Truss because, you know, I really
1:13:55
thought and she just like a spot on
1:13:59
your shirt who was, you know, we wiped
1:14:01
her away and she was gone.
1:14:03
She kind of opened up here about the
1:14:05
money, migration, all of it.
1:14:07
They are making decisions about monetary policy.
1:14:10
So what interest rates are, what, how much
1:14:16
money the Bank of England prints.
1:14:18
That's a decision the Bank of England essentially
1:14:20
makes.
1:14:20
They're making decisions about fiscal policy.
1:14:24
So if you look at the budget coming
1:14:26
up, you'll hear a lot about the Office
1:14:29
of Budget Responsibility, the OBR.
1:14:31
They're the people that essentially set the tram
1:14:34
lines, which the chancellor has to operate in.
1:14:38
And the same is true, by the way,
1:14:40
for things like migration.
1:14:42
You know, there's an independent government legal department
1:14:44
that decides what's legal and what's illegal.
1:14:48
They are the people who are saying, sorry,
1:14:50
but you've got to put these migrants up
1:14:52
at four star hotels.
1:14:54
So what I'm saying is that this bureaucratic
1:14:59
apparatus is there.
1:15:02
It is essentially driving the decision making of
1:15:05
government and ministers pretty much have to go
1:15:09
along with it.
1:15:10
So when she talks about the Bank of
1:15:12
England, I hear the city of London, which
1:15:14
is just like D.C. It's its own
1:15:16
city, has its own fire department, its own
1:15:19
police force.
1:15:20
They're their own little entity.
1:15:22
Yeah, they're totally alien, totally separate.
1:15:25
And they've had a lot of power over
1:15:27
our interest rates.
1:15:28
Of course, we cleared all that up going
1:15:30
from LIBOR to SOFIA.
1:15:32
And this is her final clip.
1:15:33
She really keeps talking about them as they
1:15:36
and they must be them.
1:15:38
These are people, broadly speaking, the senior people
1:15:41
in the treasury, the senior people of the
1:15:42
Bank of England.
1:15:43
They believe in net zero.
1:15:46
They believe in mass migration.
1:15:49
They believe in Keynesian economics.
1:15:52
They believe in high tax and high spend.
1:15:54
They were responsible for printing vast amounts of
1:15:58
money after the financial crisis during COVID.
1:16:01
It inflated asset prices and made it very
1:16:05
difficult for young people to get on in
1:16:07
life.
1:16:08
So they have a worldview.
1:16:10
They're not neutral technocrats.
1:16:11
They have a worldview.
1:16:13
And we can see this worldview emerge.
1:16:15
When she says worldview, I hear globalist.
1:16:17
I think that's what she means by that.
1:16:19
From time to time.
1:16:20
So Bailey has recently criticized Brexit.
1:16:23
You know, he has promoted net zero.
1:16:26
Mark Carney, who is the ultimate version of
1:16:28
these people, you know, made lots of money
1:16:31
of the whole climate change agenda.
1:16:34
What Donald Trump would call the climate change
1:16:36
scam.
1:16:36
He then went on to be prime minister
1:16:39
of Canada and is busy ruining Canada's economy
1:16:42
at the moment.
1:16:43
These people are not neutral experts.
1:16:47
They are people with an agenda who have
1:16:49
huge amounts of unelected power.
1:16:51
So I don't know if Liz Truss really
1:16:53
sees all the way through what Britain has
1:16:56
been doing throughout history.
1:16:57
But there's a guy who's getting a lot
1:17:00
of traction right now on different podcasts, including
1:17:04
my favorite guns, goats, gold, gold, goats and
1:17:08
guns.
1:17:09
Our buddy Tom Longo.
1:17:11
This guy's name is Richard Poe.
1:17:13
And in January of this year, he released
1:17:18
his book.
1:17:18
Here's a new one coming out in a
1:17:20
couple of weeks.
1:17:20
His book is How the British Invented Communism
1:17:23
and Blamed the Jews.
1:17:25
Which is a really, really good book.
1:17:29
And he goes through this entire history.
1:17:32
Wow.
1:17:32
That's a great title.
1:17:34
It's fantastic.
1:17:35
How they how they started the Bolshevik.
1:17:38
The Brits sparked the Bolshevik Revolution, blamed it
1:17:43
on the Jews.
1:17:44
How Churchill was writing about this in the
1:17:47
20s.
1:17:48
And it was, in fact, Churchill who inspired
1:17:50
Hitler to for a lot of what he
1:17:55
wrote in Mein Kampf.
1:17:57
And he has he has a new book
1:17:58
coming out titled How the British Kill Our
1:18:02
Presidents, which I'm excited to read.
1:18:04
Particularly Lincoln is where he starts.
1:18:07
So he was on the.
1:18:09
You know, I like the Lincoln theory.
1:18:11
I've always had this belief that it was
1:18:14
either the British or the French that that
1:18:18
were behind the assassination of Lincoln.
1:18:20
But but thinking it's the British, which I
1:18:23
never considered, makes a lot of sense considering
1:18:25
it was an actor.
1:18:26
Yeah.
1:18:27
With a British background.
1:18:29
Yes, an actor.
1:18:29
Of course.
1:18:31
A stage actor, which are typically, you know,
1:18:34
that's British that killed him.
1:18:38
So it makes some sense.
1:18:40
Yes.
1:18:41
Now I have to read this guy.
1:18:43
Why don't you read it and summarize.
1:18:44
OK, I'll just prop it into chat GPT
1:18:47
and I'll give you a summary with nice
1:18:49
little icons next to every chapter.
1:18:52
So so this is a piece from this
1:18:55
interview.
1:18:55
And I suggest everyone listen to this guy.
1:18:58
He's all over the place.
1:18:59
But the the gold gold goats and guns
1:19:02
podcast had him on.
1:19:04
And this is where he now is going
1:19:07
to the British and the French Revolution.
1:19:11
But first, he sets up this concept and
1:19:13
which I think is brilliant because it feels
1:19:16
so old yet so current how the British
1:19:19
invented the whole idea of using NGOs.
1:19:23
It's very clear that the British had set
1:19:25
up a massive infrastructure of what we now
1:19:29
called what we would now call them NGOs
1:19:31
of supposedly independent groups, which had been created
1:19:39
by citizens and were not supposedly run by
1:19:42
the government.
1:19:42
But these were groups which had such names
1:19:45
as the London Revolution Society, the London Correspondence
1:19:49
Society.
1:19:49
And this is what they did with the
1:19:52
French French Revolution, with these NGOs, the French
1:19:56
liberals, the ones who got the French intellectuals
1:20:00
who got behind the revolution.
1:20:01
They worship these British reformers, these these English
1:20:05
groups that were pushing for Republican revolution all
1:20:11
over the world.
1:20:12
And the French naively just adopted this British
1:20:18
program and really kind of worship to these
1:20:23
people.
1:20:24
And to the point where the British, the
1:20:27
French started in emulation of these British groups,
1:20:30
the French started their own parallel groups with
1:20:33
similar names.
1:20:34
There was a revolutionary society in Paris that
1:20:41
they created, and then they created these Jacobin
1:20:44
clubs, they called them.
1:20:46
The British did the same thing to the
1:20:49
French that they later did to Russia.
1:20:51
They recruited all the liberals.
1:20:53
They used the liberals to give them an
1:20:56
end, to give their agents and their operatives
1:20:58
an end into the French government, into the
1:21:03
French elite.
1:21:04
And then they betrayed the French people by
1:21:07
giving them an extremely illiberal government and a
1:21:10
bloodbath.
1:21:12
It sounds so believable.
1:21:15
Just I love it.
1:21:16
And of course, it does.
1:21:17
It sounds really believable.
1:21:18
It explains a lot.
1:21:21
And same goes for secret societies.
1:21:23
These 1848 revolutions were personally masterminded by Lord
1:21:27
Palmerston.
1:21:29
He was really setting all the policy, the
1:21:32
foreign policy, and he was running this tremendous
1:21:35
spy network all over Europe and also America.
1:21:39
The cover for his spy network was a
1:21:42
network of sometimes called secret societies.
1:21:45
All right.
1:21:47
And so here's this final clip where Luongo
1:21:49
also kind of latches on to.
1:21:50
Hold on a second.
1:21:52
The first one is called Young Italy was
1:21:54
formed by an Italian revolutionary named Giuseppe Mazzini,
1:21:59
who was a British agent.
1:22:01
And he started Young Italy, which was supposed
1:22:04
to organize revolution in Italy and moving towards
1:22:09
the unification of Italy, which was a British
1:22:12
goal.
1:22:13
They wanted to unify Italy to be a
1:22:15
counterweight against the influence of France and Austria.
1:22:18
And after Young Italy, Mazzini then founded Young
1:22:22
Europe and then started creating spinoff groups in
1:22:25
every country.
1:22:26
Young France, Young Germany, Young Poland.
1:22:29
There was a Young England and there was
1:22:31
a Young America.
1:22:33
And I show in my book that it
1:22:35
was from this Young America branch of the
1:22:39
Mazzini network that the whole conspiracy to cause
1:22:43
the Civil War, to cause the secession and
1:22:46
then ultimately to kill Lincoln all came out
1:22:49
of this Young America group.
1:22:52
I love it.
1:22:55
I love it.
1:22:57
It's good stuff.
1:22:59
It makes so much sense.
1:23:00
And, you know, it's the same system we
1:23:02
see today.
1:23:04
We've got NGOs everywhere.
1:23:06
Now, a lot of that's been cleaned up
1:23:07
because the funding got cut off.
1:23:09
We also, you know, the secret societies, there's
1:23:12
still the Pilgrim Society out there.
1:23:15
You know, you got to wonder.
1:23:16
Tucker Carlson.
1:23:17
Well, you know, I've been trying to get
1:23:19
confirmation on that.
1:23:20
I can't.
1:23:22
There's been a lot of accusations and a
1:23:24
lot it's, you know, there's lots of ex
1:23:26
posts on it.
1:23:28
But the Pilgrim Society is kind of the
1:23:30
same idea.
1:23:31
One of those secret societies.
1:23:33
And the whole idea is to move the
1:23:34
British agenda forward of global domination.
1:23:40
I even wonder about Elon sometimes.
1:23:44
You know, there was the British always had
1:23:45
this idea of let's create a super state
1:23:48
of all the English speaking nations.
1:23:52
And I think Elon floated that a while
1:23:54
back ago.
1:23:54
And just out of the blue, he's like,
1:23:56
hey, should we make just like one big
1:23:58
state of everyone who speaks English?
1:23:59
Elon is a suspect.
1:24:01
But so the bottom line is it doesn't
1:24:04
matter whether it's podcasts, whether it's the BBC,
1:24:07
you really can't trust any of it.
1:24:10
And you shouldn't trust us either.
1:24:11
Although I would say we'd be really happy
1:24:14
if we got some secret society NGO money.
1:24:17
That's just not in the cards.
1:24:19
But there's also we place so much importance
1:24:23
on people as experts.
1:24:26
And this is where the.
1:24:28
Yeah, that's where.
1:24:28
Well, I discovered this, I think, about 10
1:24:31
years ago on the show.
1:24:32
I mentioned this.
1:24:33
I went to an event head by Edelman
1:24:36
and Edelman PR.
1:24:39
Yes.
1:24:40
Edelman PR, the big boys.
1:24:42
And they gave a long speech about trustworthiness
1:24:45
and voices of trust.
1:24:48
And I watched the whole thing and it
1:24:49
was a live presentation and they had a
1:24:52
slideshow.
1:24:53
And it all turned out to be that
1:24:54
the most trusted voices come from NGOs.
1:24:58
There it is.
1:25:00
And I'm sure that they said that for
1:25:02
a reason.
1:25:03
Yeah, you can trust these guys.
1:25:05
And so that's where you have a lot
1:25:07
of NGOs representing or various organizations.
1:25:11
And they could go to so and so
1:25:12
from such and such society says this.
1:25:14
And here he is.
1:25:15
Yes.
1:25:16
And he has blurts out something.
1:25:17
There was.
1:25:18
Oh, OK.
1:25:20
Well, it's like you pointed out one time,
1:25:22
the the phony baloney surveys and and some
1:25:26
of the research done, paid for by the
1:25:28
guy who wants to survey to a certain
1:25:30
way.
1:25:30
You keep paying money until somebody does it
1:25:32
right.
1:25:32
Yes.
1:25:34
So then we have and I'm just pointing
1:25:36
this out as a public service to our
1:25:38
listeners.
1:25:39
You have the Gelman amnesia effect, which needs
1:25:42
to be brought up from time to time.
1:25:45
And this is because I saw Brett Weinstein
1:25:49
on the Joe Rogan podcast.
1:25:50
I didn't actually see the podcast.
1:25:52
I saw the clips everywhere.
1:25:54
And the clips would say, like, expert says,
1:25:57
you know, COVID was a hoax.
1:25:58
OK, fine.
1:25:59
Whatever expert says, you know, and like expert,
1:26:02
expert.
1:26:03
And yeah, sure.
1:26:05
Why?
1:26:05
And I like Brett Weinstein.
1:26:07
I've never met him, but, you know, he
1:26:08
seems like a nice enough guy.
1:26:09
I love the podcast that he does with
1:26:11
Heather because just because of how Heather talks.
1:26:15
And to prove the Gelman amnesia effect, which
1:26:20
you always need to see it this way,
1:26:22
if if you are reading a newspaper and
1:26:25
an article shows up of something you are
1:26:27
absolutely an expert in and everyone's an expert
1:26:31
in something and be like, huh, that's not
1:26:33
entirely right or they got that wrong or
1:26:36
boy, this is a load of crap.
1:26:38
I have that often with aviation stuff and,
1:26:42
you know, other things.
1:26:43
You should not believe the story next to
1:26:46
it.
1:26:47
That's the amnesia like, oh, but this this
1:26:49
has got to be true if I'm reading
1:26:50
it over here.
1:26:51
So just and this is not to pick
1:26:54
on Brett and Heather.
1:26:56
Yeah, let me read you the overview definition
1:27:00
of Gelman is two words.
1:27:01
Yeah.
1:27:03
The Gelman amnesia effect is a cognitive bias
1:27:08
where individuals readily recognize inaccuracy in media reports
1:27:13
on subjects they know well, but then forget
1:27:16
this unreliability and accept as true other articles
1:27:21
in the same publication on topics in which
1:27:25
they're not experts.
1:27:27
Exactly.
1:27:28
And it was coined by Michael Crichton.
1:27:29
Who they killed.
1:27:32
Yeah.
1:27:32
Well, somebody died prematurely.
1:27:34
He died early.
1:27:35
He died too young.
1:27:37
Sudden death.
1:27:40
So here they are.
1:27:41
They're on Episode 300.
1:27:43
This is just yesterday.
1:27:44
And Tina sent me this link and I
1:27:46
normally would not bring it up.
1:27:47
But in this in this context is great
1:27:49
because I am one expert in something very
1:27:53
specific.
1:27:54
I'm an expert in the origins of podcasting.
1:27:58
Would you say I would think I would
1:28:00
agree with that.
1:28:01
So when I hear these two experts, you
1:28:05
know, speaking this way, I have to question
1:28:07
everything else that they talk about.
1:28:10
Again, not picking on them.
1:28:12
I like them.
1:28:13
I like the show.
1:28:14
I love how Heather talks.
1:28:16
And I just I actually just wanted to.
1:28:24
It turns out you'll hear it in a
1:28:26
moment.
1:28:27
She used to be on American Life.
1:28:32
To share not not my screen here, but
1:28:34
I don't share my don't share their notes
1:28:37
that I wrote in advance of our first
1:28:40
live stream.
1:28:41
So I should I should say this is
1:28:42
not this is not the sort of thing
1:28:45
that I tend to.
1:28:46
In fact, at the point that podcast started
1:28:48
being a thing and thing and I don't
1:28:51
even know when it would have been maybe
1:28:52
early teens, early teens.
1:28:55
How about 2003?
1:28:56
Right.
1:28:57
You know, at some point.
1:29:00
I mean, there had been there had been
1:29:02
things that weren't called podcasts for for a
1:29:04
long time.
1:29:05
I remember actually recording episodes of this American
1:29:07
life in the 90s and taking them with
1:29:09
me to Madagascar so that I could listen
1:29:11
to them.
1:29:11
So, oh, yes, I remember.
1:29:14
I remember recording this American life on a
1:29:18
cassette and taking it to Madagascar, really the
1:29:21
early form of podcasting.
1:29:23
So it's really on all that.
1:29:25
And it just came around in the teens,
1:29:27
sort of, you know, long form conversations in
1:29:29
that way.
1:29:30
What did she have to do?
1:29:31
What what does the price of bread have
1:29:35
to do with her trip to Madagascar?
1:29:38
I was expecting to say I was on
1:29:41
my way to Doha, but I went to
1:29:44
a meeting with it with the she went
1:29:47
to Madagascar first.
1:29:50
Yes.
1:29:50
That was called a radio show that we
1:29:52
recorded on a cassette.
1:29:54
But yes, this is predates podcasting from what
1:29:57
was it?
1:29:58
The teens.
1:29:59
Yes.
1:29:59
For a long time.
1:30:00
I remember actually recording episodes of this American
1:30:02
life in the 90s and taking them with
1:30:04
me to Madagascar so that I could listen
1:30:06
to them.
1:30:06
So sort of, you know, long form conversations
1:30:09
in that case, you know, highly scripted and
1:30:11
beautifully put together.
1:30:14
That's not a podcast.
1:30:17
What's going on for a long time?
1:30:19
But I remember you making a joking comment
1:30:21
to me at some point in the early
1:30:23
teens about how that's when the podcasting started.
1:30:27
Early teens podcasting had to be last on
1:30:29
my list of things I would ever want
1:30:31
to do since I prefer not to be
1:30:34
in front of a camera and and just
1:30:39
kind of riffing.
1:30:40
OK, let me just give you the abbreviated
1:30:44
version of history.
1:30:46
When I convinced Dave Weiner in 2000 to
1:30:50
put the enclosure tag into RSS and it
1:30:54
actually worked for several years.
1:30:56
But there was nothing until I saw the
1:30:57
first iPod and then created a script that
1:31:02
basically put a recorded MP3 file onto your
1:31:06
iPod and instead of a song and the
1:31:10
album was the show title instead of the
1:31:12
album title.
1:31:14
And that was the birth of podcasting in
1:31:17
2003.
1:31:18
And it wasn't until probably about two years
1:31:22
later that a guy came along and said,
1:31:27
hey, why don't we call it podcasting?
1:31:29
And it wasn't that idiot from from the
1:31:33
newspaper.
1:31:35
But anyway, he says he did.
1:31:37
But it doesn't matter.
1:31:38
These are the experts and they're about to
1:31:40
tell you the origins of podcasting.
1:31:42
So I don't know what the date was.
1:31:44
It's possible we could look it up.
1:31:46
But I believe the initial podcast is Adam
1:31:50
Curry, the podfather and initial podcast in the
1:31:53
universe.
1:31:54
Yeah, I think so.
1:31:55
So this is interesting.
1:31:57
So, first of all, he's.
1:32:00
He skipped over the entire creation of the
1:32:04
whole mechanism because it's it wasn't just a
1:32:06
recording on the Internet.
1:32:10
You know, the RSS feed was key to
1:32:12
this.
1:32:13
So, yeah, but that's a detail they're never
1:32:15
going to get.
1:32:16
Well, but it's incorrect.
1:32:19
And he's and and and what I like
1:32:21
about it is that somehow somewhere we have
1:32:23
indoctrinated Heather's mind.
1:32:27
That the No Agenda show is the best
1:32:29
podcast in the universe because she says, oh,
1:32:33
yeah, that was the first podcast in the
1:32:35
universe.
1:32:35
We have infected her.
1:32:38
We are inside her brain somewhere.
1:32:40
Possibly because somehow it got in there and
1:32:43
got scrambled because obviously this is going back
1:32:46
to the gel man amnesia concept.
1:32:51
Yeah, this is what how it works.
1:32:52
You get this information.
1:32:54
It's a mishmash.
1:32:55
Yep.
1:32:56
The one of the things I have to
1:32:57
say to people that listen to our show
1:32:59
is that we are susceptible to this, too.
1:33:02
Absolutely.
1:33:02
But we have nothing but feedback.
1:33:04
We get tons of it.
1:33:05
We look at it all.
1:33:07
We've sifted and we we we change.
1:33:10
We we make corrections and we try to
1:33:11
we try to reflect reality as best we
1:33:14
can.
1:33:14
I think better than anybody else, to be
1:33:15
honest about it.
1:33:16
And that's because we have thousands and thousands
1:33:19
of producers, producers.
1:33:20
And we have them online live as we
1:33:22
speak.
1:33:22
Yep.
1:33:23
That that that allowed Adam to sound funny
1:33:26
because he steals the material from the chat
1:33:29
room.
1:33:29
I do.
1:33:29
It's not stealing.
1:33:30
It's given to me freely.
1:33:31
Value for value.
1:33:32
He has writers on the fly.
1:33:34
He's got writers in his ear.
1:33:35
By the way, I did a I did
1:33:36
a radio show in Canada once.
1:33:39
And it was I forgot the name.
1:33:40
It was very famous at the time.
1:33:42
And and the entire the hosts of this
1:33:46
show, of this radio show, maybe it wasn't
1:33:50
televised, but it was I don't believe.
1:33:52
But the host had had IFBs in and
1:33:55
as they spoke spontaneously, they had producers in
1:33:59
the back telling him what to say and
1:34:00
what to ask.
1:34:01
Yes.
1:34:01
Here's your line for this.
1:34:02
Which is what you mock all the time
1:34:05
on the show, which is a good it's
1:34:06
a funny bit.
1:34:07
It's hilarious.
1:34:08
Nobody else seems to be able to do
1:34:09
this.
1:34:10
This gag.
1:34:10
Yes.
1:34:11
But this actually does happen.
1:34:13
Did you have it to an extreme?
1:34:15
They're looking stuff up and making the guy
1:34:17
sound smart.
1:34:18
Yeah.
1:34:18
Well, Heather doesn't have that.
1:34:20
But I am.
1:34:22
Obviously, I think it was the podfather.
1:34:25
So I don't know what the date was.
1:34:27
It's possible we could look it up.
1:34:29
I believe the initial podcast is Adam Curry.
1:34:33
I am the initial podcast.
1:34:35
Just so you know.
1:34:35
I'm the initial.
1:34:37
You you just stand.
1:34:38
Yeah.
1:34:39
You are the podcast.
1:34:41
You are a podcast.
1:34:42
Yes.
1:34:42
He's the initial podcast.
1:34:44
The podfather.
1:34:45
Yes.
1:34:45
And the initial podcast in the universe.
1:34:47
Yeah.
1:34:48
Versus the initial.
1:34:49
Wait.
1:34:49
She said the initial podcast in the universe.
1:34:52
Yes.
1:34:52
The initial.
1:34:53
Yeah.
1:34:53
Nice botch there.
1:34:54
Yeah.
1:34:55
But we're in her head.
1:34:56
We're in her head.
1:34:57
Somebody's in her head.
1:34:58
Yeah.
1:34:59
The initial podcast in the universe.
1:35:01
Yeah.
1:35:02
I think so.
1:35:02
I think it's at least the first place
1:35:04
that it was called that.
1:35:05
Obviously, you're right.
1:35:06
There are precursors.
1:35:07
No.
1:35:08
No, no.
1:35:09
See, this is my point.
1:35:10
This is a freewheeling way that, you know,
1:35:12
Beatles movies are sort of precursors to modern
1:35:15
music videos.
1:35:16
Oh, I was I'm the I'm the I'm
1:35:18
the Beatles of podcasting.
1:35:20
This is what I like.
1:35:21
And this is where it gets crazy.
1:35:23
It was called that.
1:35:24
Obviously, you're right.
1:35:24
There are precursors in the same way that,
1:35:27
you know, Beatles movies are sort of precursors
1:35:29
to modern music videos.
1:35:31
If modern music videos are even still a
1:35:33
thing.
1:35:33
And this is where I'm living in her
1:35:35
head.
1:35:36
Rent free.
1:35:37
Yeah.
1:35:38
He used to be on MTV.
1:35:39
MTV is either about to or has gone
1:35:42
off the air.
1:35:43
Yeah.
1:35:43
He was on MTV.
1:35:44
Don't you remember?
1:35:45
Apparently, nobody wanted their MTV.
1:35:48
I ran into that recently.
1:35:50
Yeah.
1:35:50
And like with a whimper.
1:35:52
Apparently, no one has noticed.
1:35:53
Yes.
1:35:53
No one has.
1:35:54
Well, it makes sense.
1:35:55
People have moved on.
1:35:56
But it's random.
1:35:57
You like this podcast, you said.
1:35:59
I like them.
1:36:01
I'm not so sure.
1:36:01
They're just rambling about meaningless drivel.
1:36:07
Oh, boy.
1:36:08
Oh, boy.
1:36:09
Oh, boy.
1:36:11
Anyway, let me play this last bit.
1:36:13
What do we get from the nexus to
1:36:16
these two?
1:36:17
Yeah, I don't know.
1:36:17
It was I had to take a departure.
1:36:20
Transition.
1:36:20
You caught me off guard.
1:36:21
I'm completely flat footed.
1:36:23
How you pulled that out.
1:36:23
I'll take you back and I'll finish it
1:36:25
up.
1:36:26
I'm going to wind up here with the
1:36:27
end of the North Sea Nexus.
1:36:29
We go back to the British controlling everything.
1:36:31
You talk about the revolutions of 1848.
1:36:35
I don't like to think it was the
1:36:36
Arab Spring under Obama.
1:36:39
It's the same thing.
1:36:40
And we know the Muslim Brotherhood is a
1:36:43
city of London creation.
1:36:46
And we know all these things.
1:36:48
And they're running the same playbook here in
1:36:51
the United States right now.
1:36:52
Exactly.
1:36:52
Exactly.
1:36:53
There you go.
1:36:53
More to come.
1:36:55
Just stay tuned.
1:36:56
More to come.
1:37:04
The North Sea Nexus Report with Adam Currie.
1:37:10
What about me?
1:37:11
Why are you left out of the jingle?
1:37:13
Well, because.
1:37:14
There's another example, ladies and gentlemen.
1:37:16
I didn't create the jingle.
1:37:17
Was it Judith?
1:37:18
What's her name?
1:37:19
Judith?
1:37:20
Who wrote earlier?
1:37:21
Heather?
1:37:22
No, it wasn't Heather.
1:37:23
Oh, I'm sorry.
1:37:25
Julie.
1:37:26
Julie.
1:37:27
Good old Julie.
1:37:28
Julie.
1:37:28
Julie, keep noticing.
1:37:32
By the way, as a correction, because we
1:37:34
do get corrected and we attempt to make
1:37:37
these corrections, the news about the Farmers' Almanac
1:37:42
was wrong.
1:37:44
It appears that there were more than one
1:37:46
Farmers' Almanacs.
1:37:49
Didn't we mention this?
1:37:50
The old Farmers' Almanac.
1:37:51
No.
1:37:52
The Almanac.
1:37:52
The Farmers' Almanac.
1:37:53
No.
1:37:53
This came in after the show.
1:37:57
The OG original Farmers' Almanac has been in
1:38:02
print and continues strong after 234 years at
1:38:06
almanac.com.
1:38:08
The younger upstart only reached 208 years.
1:38:12
Fake news.
1:38:14
That's from Scott, who works for a publisher
1:38:16
that handles distribution.
1:38:18
I remember it because you talked about it
1:38:21
after the show because you got a note.
1:38:23
Yeah.
1:38:23
I brought it up on Horowitz's show.
1:38:25
Yeah.
1:38:26
Fake news.
1:38:26
Because he had the same story, and I
1:38:28
luckily had the old Farmers' Almanac anecdote in
1:38:32
tow.
1:38:33
Yes.
1:38:33
And so I got to drop it on
1:38:35
him, and then he, oh, okay, whatever.
1:38:37
Yes.
1:38:38
Yeah.
1:38:38
It was fake news.
1:38:40
Oh, geez.
1:38:43
Oh, okay.
1:38:45
Let's switch gears for a moment.
1:38:46
I'll try not to bore you.
1:38:49
The clips are short.
1:38:50
Oh, okay.
1:38:52
So what you've done, this is like, you
1:38:54
might not think this is funny.
1:38:57
You've set yourself up to fail.
1:38:59
No.
1:38:59
You'll like it.
1:39:00
You'll like this.
1:39:01
Because I know when I say COP 30,
1:39:04
you're like, yes, climate change.
1:39:08
So just to get a little update, because
1:39:10
there's some very interesting news here.
1:39:13
Al Gore presented at COP 30, and he
1:39:17
still has kind of a baby face.
1:39:20
Even though he's got to be, what is
1:39:23
he now, 75, 76?
1:39:24
I think he's about 89.
1:39:27
No.
1:39:28
Yeah.
1:39:29
No.
1:39:30
No.
1:39:30
Let's see.
1:39:32
How old is Al Gore?
1:39:34
I'll guess 78.
1:39:35
78 sounds right.
1:39:38
77.
1:39:39
Close.
1:39:41
All right.
1:39:41
So here he is.
1:39:42
Here's his pitch.
1:39:43
And here we are at COP 30, which
1:39:45
is kind of a full circle moment.
1:39:48
And, of course, the purpose is to deal
1:39:50
with the climate crisis.
1:39:52
And this thin blue shell of atmosphere surrounding
1:39:55
our planet is so thin, it's only 5
1:39:59
to 7 kilometers thick.
1:40:00
It's blue because that's where the oxygen is.
1:40:02
And we are using it as an open
1:40:04
sewer for 175 million tons of man-made
1:40:08
global warming pollution spewed into it every single
1:40:12
day.
1:40:12
It adds up.
1:40:13
It lingers there.
1:40:15
And the accumulated amount today will trap as
1:40:17
much extra heat as would be released by
1:40:20
750,000 first-generation atomic bombs exploding on
1:40:24
the Earth.
1:40:24
Not again.
1:40:25
Every 24 hours.
1:40:26
Well, now, this is why I brought this
1:40:29
up, because we have been tracking this.
1:40:31
The number of bombs that were simultaneously every
1:40:35
day.
1:40:36
In 2015, it was 400 Hiroshima bombs, if
1:40:42
you recall.
1:40:43
As would be released by 400,000 Hiroshima
1:40:47
-class atomic bombs.
1:40:48
400,000.
1:40:50
We just got the update.
1:40:51
It is 750,000.
1:40:53
But wait, that's the same number as 2024.
1:40:57
We're building up the amount of heat-trapping
1:41:01
capacity so much that today we trapped as
1:41:08
much extra heat as would be released by
1:41:12
750,000 Hiroshima-class atomic bombs.
1:41:17
So, it's stable.
1:41:19
We're leveling off.
1:41:21
So, this is good news.
1:41:23
I don't see why Al hasn't said this.
1:41:25
We have remained at 750,000 Hiroshima nuclear
1:41:31
bombs.
1:41:32
So, I found this to be encouraging.
1:41:39
That's your COP 30 update.
1:41:42
Also, Newsom was down there moaning about stuff.
1:41:45
Oh, he was moaning about all kinds of
1:41:46
stuff.
1:41:47
I know.
1:41:48
I know.
1:41:48
So, I'm thinking that the – because I
1:41:52
have – in the newsletter, I discussed the
1:41:56
idea that this whole shutdown was just a
1:41:59
scam to get these Democrats elected.
1:42:01
And Schumer did.
1:42:03
He was behind the whole thing.
1:42:04
He was behind the whole thing stopping.
1:42:05
But he's being condemned for what – because
1:42:07
he can't admit he did that because it
1:42:09
looks like a douchebag.
1:42:10
No, that would be bad.
1:42:11
That would be bad.
1:42:12
Yes.
1:42:12
So, he has to suffer.
1:42:14
But he knows the ropes.
1:42:16
He's not a – people think he's just
1:42:18
some dumb shit.
1:42:19
He's no.
1:42:19
This guy is not the head of the
1:42:21
Senate because he's a dummy.
1:42:23
And so, he knows the ropes.
1:42:24
He knows it will blow over and he
1:42:26
can put up with it.
1:42:27
And there's nobody waiting in the wings to
1:42:30
take his job as minority leader.
1:42:32
There's not one person anyone can name.
1:42:34
And the guys who could do it like
1:42:36
Dick Durbin are on his side and they're
1:42:38
behind doing these schemes.
1:42:40
So, nothing is going on there.
1:42:42
And so, I thought about this.
1:42:44
And I thought that there is a threat
1:42:48
in 2028 that AOC will run against him
1:42:52
when he's up for re-election.
1:42:53
And everyone keeps saying that, oh, she's going
1:42:55
to take his job because the progressives have
1:42:57
got a hold on the party and blah,
1:42:59
blah, blah.
1:43:00
Take his job.
1:43:02
So, I'm thinking – and I didn't discuss
1:43:05
this part in the newsletter, but I'm thinking
1:43:07
about it.
1:43:07
Yeah.
1:43:08
Is that he has to derail her because
1:43:10
he doesn't need the aggravation of getting unseated
1:43:13
by a dumb shit like her.
1:43:17
And so, he's – so, I think –
1:43:19
here's what – I think the scheme is
1:43:20
the following.
1:43:22
They're going to – the Republicans know they're
1:43:24
going to have nothing unless they can crash
1:43:26
the economy before the end of 2028, which
1:43:29
is doable.
1:43:30
But I don't think it can accomplish it
1:43:33
because Trump's pretty good at keeping things running.
1:43:37
They're going to have to put up a
1:43:39
weak sister candidate and hope they can crash
1:43:43
the economy after the next president, which will
1:43:44
probably be J.D. Benz.
1:43:45
Wait a minute.
1:43:46
Hold on a second.
1:43:46
Why do they want to crash the economy?
1:43:49
Because then they'll get votes.
1:43:50
If the Republicans are in power and the
1:43:52
economy goes – this is what happened to
1:43:54
George H.W. Bush when he was first
1:43:57
term as president.
1:43:59
He came in right after Reagan.
1:44:02
He should have been re-elected, but they
1:44:03
managed to crash the economy for just a
1:44:06
blip just before the election.
1:44:08
He had to increase taxes and they threw
1:44:10
– read my lips stuff and all the
1:44:13
rest of it because he said, read my
1:44:15
lips, no new taxes.
1:44:16
And then he had to raise taxes because
1:44:18
the economy was being tanked by the Democrats.
1:44:20
So, he raised taxes and they threw that
1:44:22
in his face.
1:44:23
And the guy couldn't – and then he,
1:44:24
of course, threw up in the lap of
1:44:28
the Japanese people.
1:44:29
That was fantastic.
1:44:31
Excuse me.
1:44:32
I got to throw up.
1:44:32
So, let me throw up in your lap.
1:44:34
And so, this was – somebody gave him
1:44:37
something.
1:44:37
I'm sure it was poison.
1:44:39
So, he had to throw up.
1:44:40
Oh, yeah.
1:44:41
And so, they set him up and got
1:44:42
rid of him.
1:44:43
And, you know, the guy was – he
1:44:46
was a sucker.
1:44:47
And so, they wanted – so, that's what
1:44:49
the Democrats like to do.
1:44:50
Oh, you said the Democrats like to crash
1:44:52
the economy.
1:44:54
Yeah.
1:44:54
Oh, I thought you said the Republicans.
1:44:56
No, no, no, the Democrats because that gets
1:44:58
them back in power.
1:44:59
Ah, okay.
1:45:00
Because that's the only way they can get
1:45:01
back in power.
1:45:02
Got it.
1:45:02
I got it.
1:45:03
And so, they're going to have to eat
1:45:06
it for if J.D. Vance or Rubio
1:45:09
becomes the next president.
1:45:12
And they know that they won't be able
1:45:14
to defeat anybody if Trump stays in office
1:45:16
and manages to get things on track.
1:45:19
So, they're going to have to run.
1:45:21
And this would be Schumer again.
1:45:23
They're going to have to run a loser
1:45:25
for – Oh, another Kamala.
1:45:29
A sacrificial lamb is going to have to
1:45:31
be at the top of the ticket, and
1:45:33
that is Newsom.
1:45:34
Who is this best – who do you
1:45:37
want to put in as vice president to
1:45:40
balance the ticket?
1:45:41
An East Coast person to balance the California
1:45:43
ticket?
1:45:44
A woman because you have to have a
1:45:46
woman.
1:45:46
You're a Democrat.
1:45:47
And you might as well go with, you
1:45:49
know, because Whitey here running for president.
1:45:52
You're going to put AOC next to him?
1:45:54
Yeah.
1:45:56
Newsom, AOC.
1:45:58
Wait a minute.
1:45:59
Wait a minute.
1:45:59
No.
1:45:59
Wait, wait, wait.
1:46:01
This show has to end sometime.
1:46:05
I mean, if they're running on a ticket
1:46:07
in 2028, we have to continue.
1:46:10
It'll be too much fun.
1:46:12
You pass the election.
1:46:13
That's easy enough.
1:46:14
But the – Neither of us gets out
1:46:16
of this gig alive is what I've determined.
1:46:18
Well, died on the mic.
1:46:23
So they're going to – it'll be Newsom,
1:46:27
AOC ticket is a loser.
1:46:30
And it gets AOC out of the picture
1:46:32
for running against Schumer.
1:46:34
But Schumer's got to be tired at a
1:46:36
certain point.
1:46:37
How old is that guy?
1:46:39
I don't know.
1:46:40
You know, maybe he should retire, but he
1:46:42
doesn't seem interested.
1:46:44
He is currently – oh, 74.
1:46:48
Well, he's got some spunk left in him.
1:46:51
He can get to 80.
1:46:52
I mean, look at Pelosi.
1:46:53
She went – she's 83, 82, 84, something
1:46:56
like that.
1:46:58
And she's still in.
1:46:59
She's in.
1:46:59
I mean, she's not running again, she says,
1:47:02
but she – She's in the mix.
1:47:03
I think she said that a couple of
1:47:04
cycles ago too.
1:47:04
No, she – I think this is really
1:47:06
it.
1:47:06
She's really out.
1:47:08
Yeah, she broke her hip.
1:47:10
I think that did the trick.
1:47:11
That's painful.
1:47:14
So Schumer will orchestrate this.
1:47:18
Oh, that makes sense.
1:47:20
Yeah.
1:47:21
Schumer orchestrates a Newsom, AOC ticket.
1:47:25
That's great.
1:47:27
That's great.
1:47:28
Do you have a clip to go with
1:47:29
this, or are you just throwing that out
1:47:30
there?
1:47:30
No, this is all speculation.
1:47:31
Nobody wants to give Schumer credit for anything.
1:47:35
He's like – he sidelined the guy, and
1:47:38
he acts like a doofus.
1:47:39
And, in fact, he's running the show.
1:47:42
He's one of those guys who does it
1:47:44
so slickly.
1:47:46
And, oh, I don't know, I'm just a
1:47:47
big dummy.
1:47:48
No, he's no dummy.
1:47:50
He's no dummy.
1:47:51
He's no dummy.
1:47:52
It's too bad that the shutdown ended because
1:47:54
it was just getting good in the media.
1:47:57
Listen to this nat pop I got.
1:47:59
This is from Reuters, and this is unbelievable
1:48:03
what they did.
1:48:03
They went out to find some SNAP benefits
1:48:08
recipients who, of course, are starving.
1:48:11
Eleven-year-old Cynthia Miller at the food
1:48:13
bank with his grandmother places his blame squarely
1:48:17
with the president.
1:48:18
Trump, why are you starving the kids?
1:48:23
I'm hungry, and we have to get buses
1:48:26
from the food bank.
1:48:30
This is a scripted kid.
1:48:32
That is the clip of the day right
1:48:35
there.
1:48:35
I thought you would say that.
1:48:38
Let's listen to that kid one more time.
1:48:42
Trump, why are you starving the kids?
1:48:46
I'm hungry, and we have to get buses
1:48:50
from the food bank.
1:48:52
Oh, man.
1:48:53
And, of course, we'll get – no, you
1:48:55
guys are horrible.
1:48:56
You're laughing about hungry people.
1:48:59
Oh, we're not going to get that much
1:49:01
flack.
1:49:01
That kid was scripted.
1:49:03
He's a phony.
1:49:04
That kid was a phony.
1:49:07
Now, there is something rather troubling, again, from
1:49:11
Reuters, you know, British outfits.
1:49:13
I'll take it for what it's worth, which
1:49:16
was also brought up by Representative Austin Smith
1:49:20
of Georgia.
1:49:21
I'll play the Reuters report first.
1:49:23
The funding bill being voted on includes a
1:49:25
clause that would let Republican senators sue for
1:49:29
half a million dollars for damages related to
1:49:32
the January 6 probe.
1:49:34
It would apply to eight lawmakers whose phone
1:49:37
records were subpoenaed as part of the investigation
1:49:39
into the 2021 Capitol riot.
1:49:42
Democrats are calling it a taxpayer-funded payout.
1:49:46
And it sure seems like it's a tax
1:49:48
-funded payout, which is – and this is,
1:49:53
like, a mandatory thing.
1:49:54
Here's Austin Smith, Republican of Georgia, talking about
1:49:58
it.
1:49:58
I was very excited about coming back to
1:50:00
Washington, D.C., to vote to open the
1:50:03
government back up.
1:50:04
And then when I saw what the Senate
1:50:06
did last night, I'll be honest, I had
1:50:11
a hard night.
1:50:12
And I've been struggling with what the right
1:50:13
vote is because of what the Senate did.
1:50:17
And I want to just tell you, because
1:50:18
I want the American citizens to be able
1:50:20
to read it.
1:50:21
You can start at page 217 of the
1:50:23
legislation, where it says requiring Senate notification for
1:50:27
disclosure of Senate data.
1:50:29
And there's a lot of with respect tos
1:50:31
and other things in the first pages.
1:50:33
But when you get over to page 223,
1:50:36
you'll see where they've created a private cause
1:50:37
of action specifically for them.
1:50:40
And it goes on, and it says that
1:50:43
cause of action – and this is on
1:50:46
page 224 – any senator whose Senate data
1:50:48
or the Senate data of whose Senate office
1:50:51
has been acquired, subpoenaed, searched, accessed, or disclosed
1:50:55
in violation of this section may bring a
1:50:57
civil action against the United States if the
1:50:59
violation was committed by an officer, employer, agent
1:51:01
of the United States, or of any federal
1:51:03
department or agency.
1:51:06
Relief.
1:51:08
If a senator prevails on a claim under
1:51:09
this section, the court shall – not may
1:51:12
– shall award for each instance of a
1:51:16
violation of this section the greater of –
1:51:18
not the lesser of – the greater of
1:51:21
statutory damages of $500,000 or the amount
1:51:25
of actual damages, reasonable attorney fees, cost of
1:51:27
litigation.
1:51:28
And it goes on from there.
1:51:30
And there's other language in here too that
1:51:32
indicates that each line would be an additional
1:51:36
payment.
1:51:37
And so most of us as members have
1:51:41
a campaign phone, a campaign email, a personal
1:51:45
phone, a personal email, and then a business
1:51:49
phone and a business email.
1:51:51
That's six violations the way they count them.
1:51:54
If they went for all of them.
1:51:57
Six.
1:51:58
Minimum of $500,000 apiece.
1:52:00
Yeah, I don't like that.
1:52:02
Well, Luna came on one of the shows
1:52:05
yesterday, and she voted for the bill, but
1:52:10
she also bitched about this.
1:52:12
She said because the House had a number
1:52:15
of people whose records were lifted also, and
1:52:19
also a bunch of organizations had their records
1:52:22
lifted illegally also, and none of them are
1:52:26
listed in the payout.
1:52:28
Right.
1:52:29
So if you're going to like steal from
1:52:30
the government coffers, you might at least –
1:52:36
can you pass it around a little bit?
1:52:38
So a lot of people are irked about
1:52:40
this.
1:52:40
No kidding.
1:52:42
It is irksome.
1:52:43
I agree.
1:52:43
Yeah, I don't like that at all.
1:52:45
I don't know who slipped that in.
1:52:47
It sounds like a Lindsey Graham thing.
1:52:50
It does.
1:52:51
By the way, I just got a note
1:52:53
that the Republicans will be doing a midterm
1:52:56
convention.
1:52:59
That's interesting.
1:53:00
Yeah, I think that's Trump's idea.
1:53:02
Of course it's Trump's idea.
1:53:04
That's show business, baby.
1:53:05
Yeah, because they note that during the conventions
1:53:09
– because everyone knows this.
1:53:11
I think people have known this since the
1:53:13
50s and 60s since television came around, that
1:53:16
they have one of these conventions, and everyone
1:53:18
gets to speak, and they make a big
1:53:19
fuss, and everyone gets all jacked up.
1:53:22
Wave our flags.
1:53:23
You end up with – the ratings for
1:53:24
the party go up.
1:53:26
Yeah, of course.
1:53:29
So the Democrats will have to follow suit.
1:53:32
Yeah, well, they're a little behind the ball.
1:53:33
They got to hurry up with organizing.
1:53:35
They may not – it may take them
1:53:38
a cycle to come up to speed.
1:53:40
Yeah, yep.
1:53:44
Let's see.
1:53:46
What else do we have?
1:53:47
Well, what do I have?
1:53:49
A little update on New York about Mamdani.
1:53:57
He's been announcing some of the people he's
1:54:01
going to bring into his administration.
1:54:03
You hear about this?
1:54:05
I know he's got a woman crew for
1:54:07
his transition team.
1:54:09
Yeah, that's – transition being the operative word.
1:54:12
That's window dressing.
1:54:14
I know he's begging for money.
1:54:15
Yeah, check this out.
1:54:17
Breaking news, Mayor-elector on Mamdani is making
1:54:19
his first major appointment, announcing Dean Fullian as
1:54:22
his first deputy mayor.
1:54:24
Fullian is a seasoned government veteran who previously
1:54:27
served as former Mayor Bill de Blasio's budget
1:54:29
director and later as first deputy mayor.
1:54:32
There's your team.
1:54:33
Mamdani also named Al Bisgard Church, his longtime
1:54:36
chief of staff at the State Assembly, to
1:54:38
that same role at City Hall.
1:54:40
In his announcement at Hunter College, Mr. Mamdani
1:54:43
said the appointments would help him build a
1:54:45
powerful and competent administration that delivers an affordable,
1:54:49
livable city for working people.
1:54:51
Mamdani takes office January 1st.
1:54:54
There you go.
1:54:57
The de Blasio team?
1:54:59
Yep.
1:54:59
Yep, the de Blasio team.
1:55:04
Well, it's better than nothing.
1:55:08
At least they got someone in there.
1:55:09
They're the worst.
1:55:10
They know how it works, at least.
1:55:12
That's kind of good.
1:55:14
Yeah, actually, they do need somebody that knows
1:55:16
how it works because he doesn't.
1:55:17
Yeah, obviously.
1:55:19
Hey, you know, we had the Department of
1:55:24
War guy over again on Tuesday night.
1:55:27
Remember I told you that we met some
1:55:30
new people and they are with the, he
1:55:34
works for, he was, you know, furloughed, of
1:55:36
course.
1:55:38
And he works for the Department of War
1:55:40
in the modern weapons department.
1:55:44
Yeah, yeah, you mentioned him on the show.
1:55:46
Yeah, so I'm like, so what are you
1:55:49
making?
1:55:50
Can you tell me anything?
1:55:52
What do you think?
1:55:56
What are they making?
1:55:56
Yeah, what do you think?
1:55:57
It has something to do with drones.
1:55:58
All drones.
1:55:59
All drones.
1:56:01
And so I threw out there, yeah, you
1:56:04
know, this stuff in Europe.
1:56:07
And I said, this is obviously a sales
1:56:09
job.
1:56:09
He just gives me a look.
1:56:12
He couldn't say anything.
1:56:14
No, of course not.
1:56:15
He's signed off on things he's not going
1:56:18
to tell you.
1:56:19
It's all drone, anti-drone.
1:56:21
I'm like, really?
1:56:22
I mean, can't one ICBM, you know, do
1:56:25
more damage?
1:56:25
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but, you know, we're no
1:56:28
longer going to be, let me see if
1:56:29
I can get this right the way he
1:56:31
said it.
1:56:32
No longer will it be like two teams
1:56:35
in the field, you know, lobbying grenades and
1:56:38
shooting at each other.
1:56:39
He says it's all going to be urban
1:56:41
warfare.
1:56:44
With drones flying around the city.
1:56:46
Yeah, yeah.
1:56:47
Busting into windows and coming up and blowing
1:56:49
people's heads off.
1:56:50
Yeah, exactly.
1:56:51
I got this from a Dutch producer.
1:56:56
So it was a drone flying around Holland
1:56:58
and it crashed.
1:57:00
Well, it turns out it was just an
1:57:02
American drone that the Dutch military was flying
1:57:05
around.
1:57:07
Little rocket tube-like shaped drone with wings
1:57:09
and a propeller on the back.
1:57:12
Everyone's flying.
1:57:14
When did this happen?
1:57:16
When did war just become about drones other
1:57:18
than, I guess, all wars are going to
1:57:20
be fought in cities?
1:57:22
Urban warfare?
1:57:23
Really?
1:57:24
Is that the future?
1:57:25
Good reason not to live in a city,
1:57:26
by the way.
1:57:27
Yeah, is that the future?
1:57:29
I don't know.
1:57:30
That doesn't sound great to me.
1:57:33
Well, let's see.
1:57:34
If you took, like, for example, the city
1:57:36
of San Francisco, it's got a population just
1:57:37
under, it's around a million.
1:57:40
I think its lowest was 750 and it's
1:57:44
probably a million.
1:57:45
And you have all these office buildings and
1:57:48
you want to attack the city.
1:57:49
You take, and China is known to have,
1:57:52
like, a million drones.
1:57:53
You go and you drop, you fly over
1:57:56
or somehow, or you bring them over in
1:57:58
cargo containers.
1:58:00
Yeah, we saw that.
1:58:00
They come through the Port of Oakland.
1:58:02
And, you know, they're not radioactive and so
1:58:05
they go through.
1:58:06
And you release the Kraken.
1:58:07
And you open the doors and you send
1:58:09
them all off.
1:58:10
You send hundreds and hundreds of thousands.
1:58:12
Say you take 500,000 of them and
1:58:14
send them to San Francisco.
1:58:18
Or you open the crates in San Francisco
1:58:20
so they don't have to fly too far
1:58:22
because they run out of electricity.
1:58:24
And so they fly over there.
1:58:27
And they bust into all the windows in
1:58:30
the Bank of America building.
1:58:32
They just crash everything they can, bust up
1:58:34
the place, and have little explosions and blow
1:58:37
up everybody they can.
1:58:39
And they do a little swarm and a
1:58:41
little cool little show in the air and
1:58:43
then they fly off.
1:58:44
Actually, the whole of them go into there
1:58:46
and they form a visual thumbs-up sign
1:58:51
with the drones.
1:58:52
And they make it move up and down,
1:58:54
thumbs up, and then they go, you know,
1:58:57
crap out and fall all over the place.
1:58:59
Probably kill more people as they're coming down.
1:59:02
Oh, what a great future.
1:59:04
That's got to be it.
1:59:05
I mean, what else is there?
1:59:07
Well, I mean, that's it.
1:59:08
I mean, first of all, we're not going
1:59:10
to have any more war.
1:59:11
President Trump stopped all the wars, man.
1:59:13
Got one more to go.
1:59:14
Eight out of nine.
1:59:15
He's going for a full nine.
1:59:17
It's all going to happen.
1:59:19
But first, I need to thank you for
1:59:21
your courage.
1:59:22
And see you in the morning.
1:59:23
To you, the man who put the sea
1:59:24
in causes and candidates, say hello to my
1:59:27
friend on the other end, the one, the
1:59:28
only, Mr. John C.
1:59:32
Norris.
1:59:32
Good morning.
1:59:36
I'm Brandon Marshall.
1:59:37
I'm a seafoot on the ground, feet in
1:59:38
the air, subs in the water, and all
1:59:38
the names and nights out there.
1:59:40
Good morning to the trolls in the troll
1:59:42
room.
1:59:42
Let me count you.
1:59:43
Hold on.
1:59:43
There you go.
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1583.
1:59:51
There's our trolls.
1:59:52
Welcome, trolls.
1:59:53
Thank you for being there.
1:59:54
We appreciate it.
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We love you guys being here.
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It's fantastic.
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That's troll.
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We love those trolls.
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Anyone that gives you a live listen link
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It makes no sense.
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Get one of those modern ones.
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Help them out.
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We have been running this show, Value for
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Value, for over 18 years.
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Tina and I were talking the other day
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about friendship, and I said, it's quite unbelievable
2:01:49
that John and I have been together for
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over 18 years.
2:01:54
And I said, and I know that if
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it really came down to it, if something
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was drastically wrong, I could call you and
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you'd show up.
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Probably.
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Probably.
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Probably would show up.
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Yeah, you know, it depends.
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What is the crisis?
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It depends on the crisis.
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If I had a stubbed toenail or something,
2:02:23
who cares?
2:02:26
Hey, you know, I got a birthday party.
2:02:28
Okay, good for you.
2:02:31
Straight up.
2:02:32
There it is.
2:02:32
That's how it works.
2:02:35
Well, we're going to go four more years
2:02:37
minimum.
2:02:38
We keep saying it, but it's true.
2:02:40
Four more years.
2:02:41
So as a part of this.
2:02:43
It's ludicrous.
2:02:43
We're at gun smoke level now.
2:02:46
I know.
2:02:46
Although it turns out I was looking at
2:02:48
the overnights.
2:02:50
I was looking at the trains.
2:02:51
The overnights.
2:02:53
And I'm looking at the streams, and it
2:02:56
turns out that the gun smoke show is
2:02:57
now showing up in the streams as a
2:03:01
rate.
2:03:02
It's like in the top 15 or something.
2:03:05
You know, this would not surprise me because
2:03:07
there is so much crap.
2:03:09
And here's the trick that the streamers are
2:03:13
doing.
2:03:14
This really made me mad.
2:03:15
So Amazon bought MGM Studios, which I think
2:03:18
was an interesting purchase.
2:03:20
You know, they get the content library, and
2:03:22
they get access.
2:03:24
You know, it's real into Hollywood.
2:03:26
Yeah, and they get the studio.
2:03:27
They get the studio, and so they created
2:03:29
House of David, which I'm pretty sure they
2:03:31
created that after the success of The Chosen.
2:03:35
And, you know, the third great awakening, the
2:03:38
season of reveal, the revival that I believe
2:03:40
we're in.
2:03:43
And it's all right.
2:03:44
Don't worry.
2:03:44
It will come to your door.
2:03:46
So House of David, which is, you know,
2:03:50
about King David, and it's really well produced,
2:03:53
high end, a lot of blood, a lot
2:03:55
of killing, kind of follows the story of
2:03:59
Samuel, and it's fun to watch.
2:04:01
So the first season, Dynamite.
2:04:03
Okay.
2:04:04
And, oh, here's the second season.
2:04:06
And I said, okay, let's watch the second
2:04:08
season.
2:04:09
And now, if you want to watch it,
2:04:12
you have to get a new subscription from
2:04:14
something called Wonder Life or something.
2:04:17
Oh, let me find out what this is
2:04:18
called.
2:04:19
What?
2:04:20
Yes.
2:04:21
Hey, wait a minute.
2:04:21
We're paying big dough for Prime.
2:04:26
By the way, for people out there that
2:04:28
don't know this, when Prime services first started,
2:04:31
it was $75 a month.
2:04:33
What is it now?
2:04:33
I'm sorry.
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No, $75 a year, flat fee.
2:04:36
Yeah.
2:04:36
And they jack it up and jack it
2:04:38
up.
2:04:38
This is what Netflix is doing.
2:04:39
If you follow the markets, Netflix is up
2:04:43
outrageously high priced, and all the analysts are
2:04:47
going, well, you know, the one thing they
2:04:48
can always do to boost their earnings, they
2:04:52
could jack up the price.
2:04:53
You know, at some point, people are going
2:04:54
to say no.
2:04:55
Yeah, here it is.
2:04:57
So now it requires an additional fee on
2:05:00
top of the Prime membership for this Wonder
2:05:03
Life thing, whatever it is.
2:05:05
I'm trying to find out what it's actually
2:05:07
called.
2:05:08
So it's a new streaming service.
2:05:11
I'm like, well, okay, so they have the
2:05:13
first six episodes.
2:05:14
We'll watch all six real quick.
2:05:17
And then it's like, oh, well, the next
2:05:19
one is coming next Sunday, and then episode
2:05:22
eight will be the Sunday after that, which
2:05:23
traps you into your free tier of seven
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days on this crazy streaming service I don't
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even want.
2:05:33
It actually resisted watching for a bit.
2:05:36
You should just give up.
2:05:37
You should boycott.
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Well, this shows I tried watching that show.
2:05:43
I can't watch.
2:05:44
It's unwatchable.
2:05:45
It's not for you.
2:05:46
It's not for heathens.
2:05:47
Definitely not.
2:05:48
You have to be saved.
2:05:49
This is not for you.
2:05:50
Oh, please.
2:05:52
Church is for sinners.
2:05:57
You're not a sinner?
2:05:58
No.
2:05:59
Okay.
2:06:00
All right.
2:06:01
You heard it here.
2:06:02
You heard it here first.
2:06:03
That's what the ladies like.
2:06:04
Pride before a great fall, my friend.
2:06:07
And there's no pride involved.
2:06:08
Yeah.
2:06:09
All right.
2:06:10
I'm staying home.
2:06:11
You know this.
2:06:12
So anyway, just your thoughts are sinful.
2:06:16
Just your thoughts.
2:06:17
And by the way, well, to you maybe.
2:06:19
By the way, there will be a meetup.
2:06:21
I will be out of the house on
2:06:22
the 15th of November.
2:06:23
This coming Saturday, as a matter of fact.
2:06:26
This coming Saturday.
2:06:27
That's right.
2:06:27
And I would hope that some of our
2:06:29
local listeners, and there's a bunch of them,
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show up.
2:06:32
Because I didn't think they showed up very
2:06:34
well.
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There was a mediocre presentation of people last
2:06:39
time we did the Mallard Club.
2:06:41
Which is, for people who haven't been to
2:06:43
the Mallard Club, it is fashioned after a
2:06:47
hunting lodge inside.
2:06:49
Yes.
2:06:49
With a bunch of heads and dead ducks
2:06:52
and things like that.
2:06:53
And please, I want all our producers to
2:06:55
go there and pray for John.
2:06:56
That's what I want.
2:06:58
You can pray for me.
2:07:00
I want you to go there and buy
2:07:02
me a beer.
2:07:04
Churches for sinners.
2:07:05
I think that's true.
2:07:06
That's probably a good statement.
2:07:07
Churches for sinners.
2:07:08
Yes.
2:07:09
Of course.
2:07:09
We're all sinners.
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So one way you can help us is
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That's always very, very welcome.
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Using an envelope?
2:07:27
Yes.
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It's good to put an envelope with your
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notes.
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With a note.
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So it doesn't get confused.
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We try to do a lot of administration.
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We really just throw cash around.
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A lot of administration with this show.
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Another way is by producing things for us.
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We have lots of end of show slop
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for you today.
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Some good ones, actually.
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Oh, no.
2:07:46
Today's dynamite.
2:07:46
Yeah.
2:07:47
We've got some really good ones.
2:07:47
They're not all AI, by the way.
2:07:49
Not all.
2:07:50
The one you like is definitely AI, and
2:07:52
I thought it was just phenomenal.
2:07:53
Those two I like.
2:07:55
I like the Stray Cats clone, and I
2:07:58
like the techno stuff.
2:07:59
You love the techno stuff.
2:08:01
I do.
2:08:02
Would you go to a concert by Tiesto?
2:08:08
No, never.
2:08:09
Oh, okay.
2:08:10
Because I could get you in.
2:08:12
I could get you up in the DJ
2:08:14
booth.
2:08:15
Yeah, I don't have any interest in that.
2:08:18
With your glow sticks.
2:08:18
I like techno to listen to when I'm
2:08:23
in an airplane because it puts me out.
2:08:25
Okay.
2:08:27
That's interesting.
2:08:28
Another way is by supporting us with artwork.
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And we have, as we discussed earlier, noagendaartgenerator
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.com, which is a way you can upload
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your art.
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And we still have original artists.
2:08:40
They're still lurking, and we still choose them
2:08:42
from time to time.
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But Jeffrey Rhea, who typically comes in with
2:08:46
very orange, washed-out slop, did a pretty
2:08:49
good one.
2:08:50
And he created the No Agenda Kareem Dvorak
2:08:53
Farmer's Almanac.
2:08:54
And it was a decent image.
2:08:56
We both thought it stood out.
2:08:57
We both liked it.
2:08:58
Yeah, it stood out.
2:09:00
We like the monochrome sometimes and that worked
2:09:02
there because it had an old-fashioned quality.
2:09:06
Monochrome does that.
2:09:07
And he's overdue.
2:09:10
We both commented on this to each other.
2:09:12
He's overdue.
2:09:13
The guy does so much work.
2:09:16
Oh, it's so hard.
2:09:18
And you bitch and moan constantly about it.
2:09:21
I mean, I'm surprised that guy still submits.
2:09:24
And so he finally gave us this piece.
2:09:25
Excellent piece.
2:09:26
Of course.
2:09:27
Let me see.
2:09:28
Was there anything else?
2:09:29
I kind of like the, no, wait a
2:09:31
minute.
2:09:31
No, there wasn't much else, was there?
2:09:34
No, I mean, I did like the, Coach
2:09:36
Joe did another comic thing that I liked.
2:09:40
But again, it doesn't make any sense.
2:09:42
It's just pretty.
2:09:44
I like New Yorkistan.
2:09:46
It was also Jeffrey Rea.
2:09:47
He thought it was too simplistic, which it
2:09:48
probably was.
2:09:52
Yeah.
2:09:53
Yeah.
2:09:53
I mean, it still takes a good idea
2:09:56
no matter what you're trying to do.
2:09:58
I want to mention something here that is
2:10:00
probably going to be the way we think
2:10:01
about this.
2:10:06
JustAaron8 submitted a whole bunch of funny pieces
2:10:08
that use images of these little characters that
2:10:14
were in Despicable Me where the minions.
2:10:17
They probably are copywritten images that we can't
2:10:21
use without getting sued by Disney.
2:10:23
Yeah, so we're not going to do that.
2:10:26
So you have to be careful about the
2:10:27
imagery you use, even if it was the
2:10:29
AI that created it.
2:10:31
Somebody has bitched about AI creating minion imagery,
2:10:36
and they're going to get sued for it.
2:10:38
It's the people at the art systems.
2:10:42
So the final and our favorite way of
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keep us going, keep us going through the
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2028 Schumer-induced Newsome AOC ticket.
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Bernie's got to fit in there somehow, too.
2:11:00
Bernie, you know, Bernie's got something to do
2:11:06
with it.
2:11:06
He's a sucker.
2:11:08
He'll go along with it because he likes
2:11:11
to get AOC in there.
2:11:13
Yeah, he loves her.
2:11:14
This is an opportunity because, you know, somebody...
2:11:16
I love the Schwarzer girl.
2:11:17
She's great.
2:11:18
She's perfect.
2:11:19
I love her.
2:11:20
You need to work on that.
2:11:21
I'm working on it.
2:11:22
By the way, there is one thing worth
2:11:24
watching on Netflix, the Eddie Murphy documentary.
2:11:30
Oh, really?
2:11:31
Yeah, it's really good.
2:11:32
Okay.
2:11:33
I will watch that.
2:11:34
Yeah.
2:11:34
I started watching The Diplomat again.
2:11:37
No, it wasn't...
2:11:38
This third season is not that good.
2:11:41
Yeah, but I have to say in terms
2:11:43
of comparing it to other shows, it's one
2:11:46
of the best paced.
2:11:48
Yeah.
2:11:49
It's like very slick in terms of quality
2:11:53
product.
2:11:54
But the thing is, so what?
2:11:55
In the olden days, when I was a
2:11:58
kid, they would produce 36 shows a season.
2:12:01
Yes.
2:12:01
Yes.
2:12:02
And then they take a couple of months
2:12:04
off for summer.
2:12:06
But now they produce 10 episodes, 8 episodes
2:12:09
a year.
2:12:10
It's like, you know, okay, you put a
2:12:12
lot of work into the 8 episodes and
2:12:14
so it's slick.
2:12:15
But, you know, it's cheating.
2:12:19
But that's about it.
2:12:21
There isn't much else left.
2:12:24
So these are our producers.
2:12:26
We thank everybody, $50 and above.
2:12:28
And we'll tell you where they're from and
2:12:30
we'll tell you how much they supported the
2:12:31
show with.
2:12:32
Because we're, unlike the Epstein people, we're very
2:12:35
transparent here.
2:12:37
We have no babes in bikinis.
2:12:39
But we do have people supporting us.
2:12:41
And at this point, we'd like to thank
2:12:42
people who are able to support us with
2:12:44
a little bit more, $200 or more.
2:12:46
We will thank you.
2:12:47
We will also read your note.
2:12:49
I see a long one came in.
2:12:52
And we'll give you a title because this
2:12:54
is like, you know, it's worth it.
2:12:56
It's like show business, like Hollywood, what's left
2:12:58
of it.
2:12:59
And we will give you the title of
2:13:01
Associate Executive Producer for $200 or above.
2:13:03
If you could do $300 or more, we'll
2:13:05
read your note.
2:13:06
We'll thank you profusely.
2:13:07
And we will give you the title of
2:13:09
Executive Producer.
2:13:10
And these are real credits.
2:13:11
You could go to imdb.com and go
2:13:14
look at Dana Brunetti.
2:13:15
His No Agenda Show Associate Executive Producer credit
2:13:18
is right at the top.
2:13:20
It's right at the top of his list.
2:13:22
Above House of Cards.
2:13:24
It's beautiful to watch.
2:13:26
So, we've got some mega supporters today.
2:13:28
He's back.
2:13:29
He's alive.
2:13:30
We're happy to hear about it.
2:13:31
Sironymous of Dogpatch and Lois Lobovia comes in,
2:13:35
all cash, $3,861.
2:13:38
It's code.
2:13:40
We don't know exactly what it means.
2:13:41
Did it include $2 bills?
2:13:44
Yes, three of them.
2:13:45
For the six, and a single, I guess.
2:13:49
No, no, no.
2:13:50
It was a five and three twos is
2:13:52
the 11, so you get the one.
2:13:54
Oh, interesting.
2:13:55
He always accompanies this with a very nice
2:13:57
note.
2:13:58
I don't think he's ever sent a $1
2:13:59
bill.
2:14:00
Because he's not cheap.
2:14:02
No, it's not that.
2:14:03
It's because when they sent the pallet of
2:14:05
money over to Iran…
2:14:08
It had all those $2 bills in it?
2:14:10
There was no ones.
2:14:14
Got it.
2:14:15
Sironymous of Dogpatch and Lois Lobovia says, Thank
2:14:18
you to all producers and the two hosts
2:14:20
that make this such an important source of
2:14:23
information, perspective, and the best resource for media
2:14:26
history in the universe.
2:14:29
I don't think I could…
2:14:29
That's true.
2:14:30
What an endorsement.
2:14:31
In fact, it was exhibited on today's show
2:14:35
by Adam himself when he discussed the history
2:14:38
of podcasting.
2:14:39
That's correct.
2:14:41
And he poses a number of questions here,
2:14:43
and I shall read them off.
2:14:45
One, will having an African Muslim mayor of
2:14:49
New York City cause a drop in No
2:14:51
Agenda listeners?
2:14:54
Well, I don't see why that would happen.
2:14:56
No, I think it would cause an increase.
2:14:58
Will he be compared to another Ugandan like
2:15:01
Idi Amin?
2:15:03
That's possible.
2:15:04
Well, Idi Amin was brought in by the
2:15:05
CIA, so…
2:15:07
And?
2:15:08
Your point?
2:15:10
And, will anti-Semite and anti-Muslim fears
2:15:14
grow among peace-loving Christians?
2:15:17
Yes.
2:15:18
That fear is being bestowed upon Christians everywhere.
2:15:22
And I'm telling people, hey, knock it off.
2:15:26
Yeah, it's no good.
2:15:27
And this is, it truly is, this is
2:15:30
the next, let's bring all the believers together.
2:15:33
Let's make them all afraid of the Muslims.
2:15:37
Dearborn, oh, Dearborn is being raised by Sharia
2:15:40
law.
2:15:41
Don't worry, I do not see that happening
2:15:43
in America.
2:15:44
Are anti-Catholic fears in the offing?
2:15:49
I think that's no.
2:15:50
I don't think so.
2:15:51
Will Trump replace Jimmy Kimmel as a show
2:15:54
host with Donald Live in 2029?
2:15:57
Well, I'd watch it, but no.
2:15:59
I'd watch it, but that's not happening.
2:16:00
Do producers know where Mali, Sudan, or the
2:16:04
Sahel are, and should they care?
2:16:07
Yes, yes, yes, and they should.
2:16:10
I'm pretty sure our producers know where Mali,
2:16:12
Sudan, and the Sahel are.
2:16:14
I don't know anybody that knows where Sahel
2:16:16
is, even if it's pronounced that way.
2:16:19
It's just a desert area out in the
2:16:21
middle of nowhere between two countries.
2:16:22
Yeah, but this isn't…
2:16:23
It's like the Mojave Desert, basically.
2:16:25
This is code.
2:16:27
This is code.
2:16:28
Keep your eye on the Sahel.
2:16:30
That's an interesting point.
2:16:32
Of course.
2:16:33
What am I thinking?
2:16:36
Yes.
2:16:36
Only Know Agenda offers thoughtful insight into these
2:16:40
and many more important issues ignored by the
2:16:42
M5M, sacrificing fortune to offer their perspective and
2:16:46
information without advertiser censorship.
2:16:50
Free and independent perspective supported by a vast
2:16:52
resource of producers always matters and needs to
2:16:56
be supported.
2:16:57
No jingles, no karma.
2:17:01
Thank you very much.
2:17:02
Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia.
2:17:04
Not just for your donation, but we love
2:17:07
your probing questions.
2:17:09
And it's just good to know you're alive,
2:17:11
because we sometimes are wondering, like, is he
2:17:15
okay?
2:17:15
Yes, we do.
2:17:16
We do wonder.
2:17:17
Is he okay?
2:17:17
We haven't heard from him, you know, because
2:17:19
I know he has…
2:17:21
I feel he has a dangerous job, whatever
2:17:23
he does.
2:17:24
He could be a caterpillar salesman for all
2:17:27
we know.
2:17:27
Okay.
2:17:27
Yeah.
2:17:28
Keep on believing that.
2:17:29
I don't think so.
2:17:30
Well, it's possible.
2:17:31
I don't think so.
2:17:32
Which leaves you with a rather long note
2:17:34
to read.
2:17:35
Yes, I got it.
2:17:36
It's from Dame Catherine, our crypto granny buddy.
2:17:39
Crypto granny.
2:17:40
Bangkok.
2:17:40
Bangkok.
2:17:43
She's a very close associate to the show.
2:17:45
And she came here with the Rebelizer donation.
2:17:48
Ah, we need the jingle.
2:17:50
India.
2:17:51
Tango.
2:17:52
Mic.
2:17:53
Standby.
2:17:55
33.
2:17:56
33.
2:17:57
33.
2:17:59
Rebelizer out.
2:18:00
There you go.
2:18:02
The special…
2:18:03
33.33. This is a big donation.
2:18:06
And she's been promising to do this for
2:18:07
a while.
2:18:08
I've been back and forth with her.
2:18:09
Is this…
2:18:09
And this is actually…
2:18:11
Did she send this in Bitcoin?
2:18:12
I think so, yeah.
2:18:13
Yeah.
2:18:13
Okay.
2:18:14
Even though it came in with the color…
2:18:16
Yeah.
2:18:16
Because it came in…
2:18:17
It's wrong.
2:18:17
It's Bitcoin.
2:18:18
Yeah.
2:18:18
Yeah, it's a Bitcoin donation.
2:18:20
And she's been back and forth and back
2:18:22
and forth with it, one thing or another.
2:18:23
And she's confused…
2:18:25
Not confused, but she managed it because she
2:18:27
sent a donation in the last show, too.
2:18:30
Let's see what we can get a streak
2:18:31
of Rebelizers going, she says.
2:18:33
For you Bitcoiners, there's a bit of magic
2:18:35
to find where on Stripe you can donate.
2:18:38
It's Strike that we use.
2:18:40
No.
2:18:41
Strike.
2:18:43
Strike.
2:18:44
Strike.
2:18:44
With a K, yes.
2:18:46
And it's on the noagendadonations.com.
2:18:49
You click around, you'll find the links.
2:18:52
Yeah.
2:18:52
Hopefully, John will clarify this in the future
2:18:55
newsletters.
2:18:56
And Jay's been dicking around with that site
2:18:58
to make it easier for people because apparently
2:19:01
some people can't click it.
2:19:02
Well, the QR code is the easiest because
2:19:04
the way Bitcoin works.
2:19:06
Yeah.
2:19:06
Yeah, but it's down…
2:19:07
It's down below.
2:19:08
It's below the fold, man.
2:19:09
It's below the fold.
2:19:11
Yeah, it should be.
2:19:12
Yeah, it should be.
2:19:12
Move it up.
2:19:13
Move it up.
2:19:14
I want to thank you all for all
2:19:15
your hard work over the years.
2:19:17
I love hearing about your personal lives.
2:19:19
I don't know why, but that's what she
2:19:21
writes.
2:19:22
Adam finding the keeper.
2:19:24
And then Jesus and, of course, John's kids
2:19:27
at the dinner table and the adorable.
2:19:29
What are you teaching him now, John?
2:19:32
Yes.
2:19:33
What are you teaching him?
2:19:35
Thank you to Mimi for her work and
2:19:38
her keeping John in line.
2:19:40
That should be…
2:19:42
I think she meant keeping John alive, I
2:19:44
think is what she meant.
2:19:45
Don't have a live baby.
2:19:48
You have a good woman there.
2:19:50
I feel like you're my family, especially with
2:19:52
the quibbling back and forth as a proud
2:19:54
boomer.
2:19:55
I really enjoy it when you tickle my
2:19:57
memories that make me smile.
2:19:59
Yeah, we do have a lot of these.
2:20:00
It's called old stories.
2:20:02
When I was a kid, I loved…
2:20:05
And she continues.
2:20:06
I have loved the evolution from the ground
2:20:08
up, the trolls, the boots on the ground,
2:20:11
podcasting 2.0, the meetups, the artists.
2:20:14
I'd like to give a shout out and
2:20:16
special recognition to the producers in the background
2:20:19
who do so much work.
2:20:20
You've touched so many people in a very
2:20:22
positive way.
2:20:23
This is a long note, but it's a
2:20:25
Rebelizer.
2:20:25
Hello.
2:20:26
I would like to bestow these titles.
2:20:28
My son, JD, will be JD Knight of
2:20:30
the River's Edge.
2:20:31
My adorable five-year-old granddaughter, Taylor, will
2:20:34
be Dame Taytay of Durango.
2:20:37
My super amazing daughter-in-law will be
2:20:39
Dame Ashley Little Miss Sunshine.
2:20:42
I think they may also get a peace
2:20:45
prize in which they richly deserve.
2:20:47
Yes.
2:20:47
Okay, well, we can do that.
2:20:49
JD would like bourbon, Brussels sprouts, and some
2:20:53
amazing mac and cheese at the round table.
2:20:56
Wait, that brings me to my bonus clip.
2:20:59
I have the amazing mac and cheese.
2:21:03
Hold on.
2:21:04
Here it is.
2:21:05
Hopefully, this will suffice.
2:21:07
Let me just crank up the volume on
2:21:09
this a little bit.
2:21:10
For some reason, it's kind of low.
2:21:11
Here we go.
2:21:12
Ahead of Thanksgiving, Kraft Mac and Cheese is
2:21:14
combining two Thanksgiving classics into one holiday dish.
2:21:18
Let's see if you like this one here.
2:21:20
They're introducing a new Kraft Mac and Cheese
2:21:23
apple flavor, apple pie flavor.
2:21:26
This new flavor is mixing mac and cheese
2:21:29
and apple pie for what they say is
2:21:31
a new take on America's favorite dessert.
2:21:35
If that sounds like something that you're craving,
2:21:36
it's available nationwide at Walmart for a limited
2:21:40
time.
2:21:40
What do you think?
2:21:45
And Walmart yet.
2:21:47
Sounds nasty.
2:21:49
She finishes off with, thank you and remember,
2:21:52
being rich is having enough to share with
2:21:54
others.
2:21:55
A note to all.
2:21:58
Well, there's more to it.
2:21:59
I don't have any more.
2:22:00
That does not just mean money.
2:22:02
It's time, talent, and treasure from Dame Catherine
2:22:06
Crypto Granny of Bangkok.
2:22:08
And we go straight into another Bitcoin donation
2:22:13
from Sir Double T.
2:22:15
ITM sirs, I've just seen the first confirmation
2:22:18
of a 1010101 Satoshi donation.
2:22:22
So that's over 1 million Satoshis to the
2:22:26
greatest podcast in the universe and thought it's
2:22:28
time to send a note.
2:22:29
I believe this donation gives me knighthood and
2:22:33
I would like to be called Sir Double
2:22:34
T of the Nosterverse.
2:22:36
Yes, right.
2:22:36
It came in at one thousand sixty two
2:22:38
dollars and thirty five cents.
2:22:40
I love what you do and I love
2:22:41
my truck.
2:22:42
Stay humble and stack sats, says Sir Double
2:22:45
T.
2:22:45
Thank you very much.
2:22:46
This Bitcoin thing is rocking, John.
2:22:48
This is good.
2:22:50
Eli, the coffee guy to 1113, the date
2:22:53
looks like the penny finally tapped out after
2:22:57
232 years.
2:22:59
Yes, it did.
2:23:01
It's funny how something so small that we
2:23:04
have taken for granted felt permanent.
2:23:09
But alas, it had a good run.
2:23:11
So at least for now, we can still
2:23:13
say our coffee is worth every penny.
2:23:15
So visit GigaWideCoffee, that's the transition of the
2:23:18
day.
2:23:19
So visit GigaWideCoffeeRoasters.com and use code ITM
2:23:22
20 for 20 percent off your order and
2:23:24
get some amazing fresh frozen coffee.
2:23:27
Fresh frozen?
2:23:27
Comes frozen?
2:23:28
Today.
2:23:29
Today.
2:23:29
Stay caffeinated, Eli, the coffee guy.
2:23:32
So is this not just a result of
2:23:36
inflation, money printing, money supply, I should say,
2:23:40
that the penny now just has to go?
2:23:42
Because we at one point had a half
2:23:43
penny.
2:23:45
Did we not?
2:23:45
Did we have a half penny?
2:23:46
No, no, that's England.
2:23:47
We never had a half penny.
2:23:48
Are you sure?
2:23:50
I'm pretty sure.
2:23:51
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure.
2:23:53
There was a hay penny, it used to
2:23:56
be called, and that was a British coin.
2:23:58
Did the USA ever have, I'm looking at
2:24:01
half penny.
2:24:03
Okay, let me see.
2:24:04
And half cent?
2:24:06
Yes, half cent.
2:24:08
You're wrong, Dvorak!
2:24:10
That can happen.
2:24:11
It was first minted in 1793, last minted
2:24:14
in 1857.
2:24:15
At that time, it had purchasing power equivalent
2:24:19
to between 12 and 17 cents in 2024
2:24:22
money.
2:24:24
Yeah, it's actually probably more than that.
2:24:26
Yeah, if you can find one, it's probably
2:24:27
worth a lot more.
2:24:28
But the real reason for cutting this thing
2:24:30
out is that it cost four cents to
2:24:31
make one cent.
2:24:32
Right.
2:24:33
Well, that's your inflation.
2:24:34
It's dumb.
2:24:36
Brian Warden is in Cumming, Georgia, and he
2:24:38
sends us $200.07 associate executive producership for
2:24:42
you, and he, oh, this is good.
2:24:44
I saw a six-sided stop sign and
2:24:47
knew I had to donate.
2:24:51
As opposed to what other sort of stop
2:24:53
sign?
2:24:53
Well, he said this was one of your
2:24:55
many donation strategies from around the 700s.
2:24:59
Oh, yeah.
2:25:00
Well, no, it's still in play.
2:25:02
Well, we need to just remind people, when
2:25:03
you see a stop sign, you see that
2:25:06
stop sign, you think, donate to the No
2:25:08
Agenda Show.
2:25:09
Stop sign, donate to the No Agenda Show.
2:25:11
When you see a stop sign, donate to
2:25:14
the No Agenda Show.
2:25:15
What are you getting at?
2:25:17
Whenever people see it.
2:25:18
Specifically, what do you mean by this?
2:25:20
When you see a stop sign.
2:25:22
Yeah, okay, wait, I'm driving on the street,
2:25:24
and I see it's red, it says stop.
2:25:26
Yes, six-sided, six-sided, it's a stop
2:25:28
sign.
2:25:28
It's got six things in it.
2:25:29
And what's the first thing that goes through
2:25:31
your mind?
2:25:32
Well, the first thing that goes through my
2:25:34
mind is to stop.
2:25:36
Stop and donate to the No Agenda Show.
2:25:39
Okay, well, maybe that'll work.
2:25:41
$115 NICU donation, $50 for John and all
2:25:44
of his anal clips on $17.99. I
2:25:47
kept my water and blankets, just sent my
2:25:49
cash.
2:25:49
That's right, Brian, thank you very much, and
2:25:51
thank you for reminding us.
2:25:52
When you see a stop sign, it's time
2:25:54
to donate to your No Agenda Show.
2:25:56
Clint Loudon in Austin, Texas, right up the
2:25:59
street from where you used to live.
2:26:01
$200.
2:26:02
John and Adam, thanks for what you do.
2:26:04
I'm sending an infographic on visas.
2:26:08
You're welcome.
2:26:09
Thank you, thank you.
2:26:11
But okay, I'll look for it.
2:26:13
Infographics still exist.
2:26:15
Also, I wish there was a Boomer Award.
2:26:18
Giving me ideas.
2:26:20
Because that quit-being-so-negative comment aimed
2:26:24
at millennials a few shows ago was the
2:26:26
most boomer thing ever.
2:26:31
There's another interesting gag.
2:26:34
We have enough boomers who listen to the
2:26:36
show that appreciate boomer talk.
2:26:38
Well, I think Gen Z should be eligible
2:26:41
for Boomer Awards, because they have boomer values.
2:26:46
That's why they're attracted to our boomer talk.
2:26:50
Yeah, and they want to learn as much
2:26:51
as they can, so they can have a
2:26:53
competitive edge over the Xs and the millennials.
2:26:57
They are aggressively looking, even though they've been
2:27:02
dumbed down by the public school system, they
2:27:05
know this.
2:27:06
They have self-realization, and they know that
2:27:09
they have to be competitive with these other
2:27:11
two groups.
2:27:12
Not us, because they're not competing with us.
2:27:15
They're competing with the Xs and the millennials.
2:27:18
They know that they're going to have to
2:27:19
have an edge, and the edge is the
2:27:21
knowledge of the boomers.
2:27:23
The boomer knowledge.
2:27:24
Boomer knowledge.
2:27:26
Speaking of a competitive edge...
2:27:27
Good name for a show, by the way.
2:27:29
Yes, boomer knowledge.
2:27:30
Speaking of a competitive edge, Linda Lou Patkin
2:27:33
is here with $200 from Lakewood, Colorado, and
2:27:36
she wants Jobs Karma, and in fact says,
2:27:38
for a competitive edge with a resume that
2:27:41
gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all
2:27:44
of your executive resume and job search needs.
2:27:47
That's ImageMakersInc with a K.
2:27:49
And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs
2:27:52
and writer of winning resumes.
2:27:54
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:27:57
Let's vote for jobs.
2:27:59
Jobs Karma.
2:28:04
Michael Day in Fuquay, Varina, which is not
2:28:09
pronounced correctly because I don't know how to
2:28:11
pronounce it.
2:28:12
In North Carolina.
2:28:13
Fuquay.
2:28:15
Fuquay, Fuquay, Fuquay.
2:28:17
Fuquay this.
2:28:18
Fuquay this.
2:28:20
$200.
2:28:21
And his simple note, nice and short, credit
2:28:24
my wife, Damon Kelly.
2:28:26
And then he says, save the ostriches, which
2:28:28
is too late.
2:28:30
The Canadians killed them all.
2:28:31
Killed them all.
2:28:31
Killed the ostriches.
2:28:32
Yes, it's horrible.
2:28:34
For no good reason, by the way.
2:28:36
Just because they're Canadian.
2:28:38
Crazy over there.
2:28:39
Mark Carney.
2:28:40
Mark Carney's killing your ostriches, people.
2:28:42
Thank you very much to these executive and
2:28:44
associate executive producers for episode 1816.
2:28:47
You will be credited as such.
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Our formula is this.
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We go out, we hit people in the
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, since we've been playing with it throughout
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the show, might as well play this report.
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Get your sound makers ready.
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Ike is at a turkey farm in New
2:29:53
Jersey with Moore.
2:29:54
Good morning to you, Ike.
2:29:57
Good morning, Robin.
2:29:58
They're saying good morning, too.
2:30:00
Listen, the good folks here at Double Brook
2:30:02
Farm in Hopewell, New Jersey, they're gearing up
2:30:04
for Thanksgiving.
2:30:05
I don't think they like that too much,
2:30:06
but let me tell you, you should be
2:30:08
gearing up, too.
2:30:09
I know grocery store prices are rising across
2:30:11
the country, but a new report says that
2:30:12
your Thanksgiving feast could actually be a bit
2:30:15
cheaper this year.
2:30:19
Hey, mine doesn't work that well anymore.
2:30:23
I think I touched the membrane.
2:30:25
No, no, you have to catch it just
2:30:27
right.
2:30:27
The thing is touchy.
2:30:31
It's touchy.
2:30:35
50-year mortgages.
2:30:38
This was kind of interesting.
2:30:39
Yeah, there's a scam, if ever there was.
2:30:40
Well, let me play the report, and then
2:30:42
I have some questions.
2:30:43
This morning, new backlash as the Trump administration
2:30:46
moves forward with a plan to introduce 50
2:30:48
-year mortgages.
2:30:49
It looks to be like the president's looking
2:30:51
for a quick fix to a market that
2:30:53
is fundamentally broken right now.
2:30:54
Over the weekend, Trump sharing this image comparing
2:30:57
the proposal to the 30-year mortgage policies
2:30:59
championed by FDR nearly a century ago.
2:31:02
The move could potentially kickstart the now stagnant
2:31:05
real estate market.
2:31:06
Homes are currently seeing the lowest turnover rate
2:31:08
in 30 years, and the median age of
2:31:10
first-time homebuyers just hit an all-time
2:31:13
high of 40 years old.
2:31:14
It's really difficult to see right now for
2:31:16
younger borrowers how they are going to be
2:31:18
able to afford a home.
2:31:19
A longer fixed-rate mortgage would lower monthly
2:31:21
payments, but would also create a higher total
2:31:24
cost because of all that interest over five
2:31:26
decades.
2:31:27
Take a $400,000 loan at 6%
2:31:30
interest.
2:31:31
Under a 30-year mortgage, the monthly payment
2:31:32
would be just shy of $2,400.
2:31:35
Under a 50-year loan, it drops to
2:31:37
just over $2,100, a savings of nearly
2:31:39
$300 a month.
2:31:41
But over time, that savings is erased by
2:31:43
a much larger interest bill because while the
2:31:45
total interest on a 30-year loan would
2:31:47
be about $463,000, the interest on a
2:31:51
50-year loan would total more than $860
2:31:53
,000.
2:31:54
Many, including longtime allies of President Trump, are
2:31:57
not on board with the idea.
2:31:58
Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene saying, quote, it will
2:32:01
ultimately reward the banks, mortgage lenders, and home
2:32:04
builders, while people pay far more in interest
2:32:06
over time and die before they ever pay
2:32:08
off their home.
2:32:09
In debt forever, in debt for life.
2:32:11
And the White House has not yet explained
2:32:13
how it would get around the Dodd-Frank
2:32:15
Act, which effectively bans mortgages longer than 30
2:32:18
years.
2:32:19
Well, that effectively ban is not entirely true,
2:32:23
but you wouldn't be a qualified mortgage lender,
2:32:27
but it's not banned by any stretch of
2:32:29
the imagination.
2:32:30
But tell us about this.
2:32:31
This is important for our Gen Z listeners.
2:32:34
What advice will you give them?
2:32:36
Which, of course, is not financial advice because
2:32:38
we don't give any.
2:32:39
But what is your thoughts on this?
2:32:41
Well, I don't like it.
2:32:43
It's a scam of sorts.
2:32:45
I mean, this is like increasing the car
2:32:47
loans from, you know, two years, three years.
2:32:49
I think it normally was three or four
2:32:51
years.
2:32:51
You can get seven years now.
2:32:52
Yeah, they got it jacked up.
2:32:54
So you just pay a lot of benefits
2:32:55
to the banks, and the banks are the
2:32:57
problem here.
2:32:58
But a question, a question, a question.
2:33:00
You can deduct the interest from your taxes.
2:33:04
Yeah.
2:33:05
So isn't that?
2:33:06
Although Trump put a cap on that a
2:33:08
few years ago, and then luckily the Democrats
2:33:10
took the cap off, and I think it's
2:33:12
off now for a while.
2:33:13
It is.
2:33:13
It's up to like $40,000 or something.
2:33:16
Yeah, it's still a cap, but it's not
2:33:17
down to 10.
2:33:18
Yeah, but it's, well, that's what Trump did.
2:33:20
And then now it's up to 40.
2:33:22
So, I mean, is that not something that
2:33:25
you should look at?
2:33:26
It's a big deal that you can do.
2:33:28
It lowers your taxes.
2:33:29
That's true.
2:33:30
Yeah.
2:33:31
It's helpful, but it lowers your tax with
2:33:34
the 30-year mortgage too.
2:33:36
The difference is negligible insofar as the taxes
2:33:39
is concerned.
2:33:39
But in terms of the long-term accumulation
2:33:41
of interest, it's no.
2:33:43
It's ridiculous.
2:33:45
And I think this whole problem with the
2:33:48
shortage and the problem with the kids getting
2:33:50
in has to do with the banks.
2:33:51
The banks make it difficult for anyone to
2:33:55
get a loan for anything.
2:33:57
And for this purpose, to create a phony
2:34:01
crisis, so they have to do something drastic
2:34:05
like this 50-year thing, and all of
2:34:06
a sudden they'll relax the standards and everyone
2:34:08
will be able to get one of these
2:34:10
loans.
2:34:10
This is basically some sort of a scam.
2:34:13
Hmm.
2:34:17
Okay.
2:34:18
So, stay away.
2:34:19
And for the kids, you're going to just
2:34:21
have to starve yourself.
2:34:23
Once you get your down payment and get
2:34:24
in, you're good to go, but you're going
2:34:25
to have to sacrifice.
2:34:27
Only fans.
2:34:28
Only fans.
2:34:32
Actually, some truth to that.
2:34:33
Yeah.
2:34:34
Just saying.
2:34:35
I got a note from a guy that
2:34:37
was…
2:34:40
Where is this note?
2:34:41
Here it is.
2:34:43
A lot of notes.
2:34:44
I haven't caught up with my notes.
2:34:47
This guy goes on and says he has
2:34:48
a comment on the show related to the
2:34:50
show 1815.
2:34:51
During the show, you were discussing healthcare and
2:34:54
health insurance companies.
2:34:55
You had an anecdotal story regarding a young
2:34:57
woman.
2:34:58
This was the last show, actually, seeking an
2:35:00
MRI approach, and then you get it for
2:35:02
700 bucks as opposed to 1,500.
2:35:04
She talked to another provider, blah, blah, blah.
2:35:07
Your analysis blamed the insurance company for the
2:35:10
outrageous difference.
2:35:10
However, the deductible payment goes to the hospital
2:35:14
provider, not the insurance company, so the hospital
2:35:17
is going to collect the 5K plus whatever
2:35:19
the insurance company reimburses, versus the 750 if
2:35:25
cash was paid.
2:35:26
The serious gouging by the hospital provider.
2:35:30
Yes.
2:35:32
The hospitals are as much at fault as
2:35:35
anyone.
2:35:35
Why do the hospitals gladly take cash payment
2:35:38
at a lower price then if that is
2:35:41
true?
2:35:42
They don't gladly take it.
2:35:44
Yes, they do.
2:35:46
Well, they do take it, but this one
2:35:48
hospital wouldn't.
2:35:50
I don't think this applies to all hospitals.
2:35:54
That's the problem, and I think it definitely
2:35:57
applies to HMO hospitals.
2:35:59
Which, by the way, was a British invention.
2:36:03
And not only that, but it was HMOs
2:36:05
in this country until Richard Nixon.
2:36:08
I have to write an essay on this
2:36:09
so I can get it straight myself, but
2:36:11
Richard Nixon allowed the HMOs to, when he
2:36:15
was in office, pass the law that allowed
2:36:18
them to make profit.
2:36:19
They had to be nonprofit, had to be
2:36:22
break-even operations, all these HMOs.
2:36:25
That's when Kaiser was in business.
2:36:27
I used to be a Kaiser girl.
2:36:31
Yeah, I was a Kaiser girl.
2:36:34
I worked for Kaiser, and I got free
2:36:37
health care from Kaiser, and then I continued
2:36:39
that health benefit.
2:36:41
It was cheap, and it was pay-as
2:36:44
-you-go.
2:36:44
I didn't remember paying a monthly thing.
2:36:46
That all changed with Nixon, and they started
2:36:51
creeping and creeping.
2:36:52
They could make more and more profits, and
2:36:53
you look at the balance sheets and the
2:36:54
billions of dollars being made by all these
2:36:56
middlemen, including the hospitals and the insurance companies,
2:36:59
aren't making millions and millions and billions of
2:37:01
dollars because everybody's getting health care inexpensively.
2:37:06
So I blame both the health care.
2:37:09
The whole system sucks.
2:37:11
Well, because you brought up MRI, producer Scott
2:37:15
sent a note.
2:37:15
He says, I need an MRI for a
2:37:17
shoulder injury.
2:37:18
My orthopedic doctor's office performs them.
2:37:21
They bill insurance $1,600.
2:37:24
They were willing to give me a self
2:37:26
-pay price of $1,200.
2:37:29
CrowdHealth, that's the thing that Tina can tell
2:37:33
you about, tinatcurry.com, found an imaging center
2:37:38
that happened to be closer than my ortho's
2:37:40
office.
2:37:41
The imaging center performed the MRI, produced a
2:37:44
written report by a radiologist, sent that report
2:37:47
to my ortho and me, and gave me
2:37:49
a disk of the images.
2:37:51
Final price, $321.
2:37:56
Dude, that's a quarter of the price.
2:38:00
Pays to shop around.
2:38:02
Yes.
2:38:03
Well, in this case, CrowdHealth did it.
2:38:06
And then I got a disturbing note.
2:38:07
I don't understand how this could even happen.
2:38:10
So I don't know if you found out
2:38:11
about California, if health insurance is mandatory.
2:38:16
I haven't yet to disprove this.
2:38:19
Well, one of our producers lives in Massachusetts.
2:38:22
He says Massachusetts imposes a penalty if you
2:38:26
don't have health insurance.
2:38:28
Because I use CrowdHealth, I will have to
2:38:30
pay a penalty.
2:38:31
I decided to pay the penalty because I
2:38:33
think the crowd health model is good for
2:38:37
the country.
2:38:37
I don't like giving my money to insurance
2:38:39
companies.
2:38:40
I like being able to choose what crowd
2:38:42
events I pay for.
2:38:44
And there's a decent chance my cost will
2:38:45
still be lower by using CrowdHealth and paying
2:38:48
the penalty.
2:38:48
But they have this whole, he sent me
2:38:51
a whole penalty schedule.
2:38:53
I mean, this was the whole point of
2:38:56
removing the Obamacare tax.
2:39:00
And now, I didn't know that states just
2:39:02
went ahead and just made this law.
2:39:05
I mean, isn't that, doesn't that fall under
2:39:07
the same unconstitutional tax that's not a tax?
2:39:15
There's something fishy about it.
2:39:17
I'd say.
2:39:19
Well, let's get Rob on it.
2:39:21
Because he's got nothing better to do.
2:39:24
Poor Rob.
2:39:25
Oh, God.
2:39:26
Those guys are asking more legal questions for
2:39:28
free.
2:39:29
Come on, Rob.
2:39:30
It's like most lawyers have a little clock
2:39:33
next to the phone.
2:39:34
As soon as they pick up, they tap
2:39:36
it.
2:39:36
They're billing you by the second.
2:39:38
Like one of those chess clocks.
2:39:40
OK.
2:39:41
Yeah, exactly.
2:39:42
It's exactly the same.
2:39:43
And it's going around and around.
2:39:44
Can you ask that question again?
2:39:47
It's also possible that he's just noting this,
2:39:50
and one day he'll come up and say,
2:39:51
OK, I need to be a duke.
2:39:54
And here's my accounting.
2:39:56
He's got the clock running.
2:39:57
Here's my accounting over that.
2:40:02
Actually, being an attorney, that would not surprise
2:40:04
me.
2:40:05
And I wouldn't be a problem for me.
2:40:08
No, dukedoms are what they are.
2:40:10
Yeah, they are.
2:40:11
Indeed.
2:40:12
Oh, that's funny.
2:40:13
All right.
2:40:14
Do you have other stuff here in your
2:40:15
list that you haven't played yet?
2:40:17
Yeah, I got this ketchup stuff.
2:40:18
I got this stuff to get us up
2:40:19
to speed.
2:40:20
Let's go with the—well, we got the Trump
2:40:22
suing the BBC over that thing.
2:40:23
We kind of discussed that earlier.
2:40:25
Yeah.
2:40:25
By the way, it turns out this morning,
2:40:27
ABC Australian Broadcasting had pulled the same stunt.
2:40:32
Oh, they did?
2:40:33
They may be up—yes, and they're getting burned.
2:40:36
They got burned by— Did they take the
2:40:39
same edit?
2:40:40
No, it was different, but still bad.
2:40:42
Huh.
2:40:43
Different.
2:40:44
And they got burned by Sky News.
2:40:46
Oh, wow.
2:40:48
Yeah, just the same way the Telegraph did
2:40:50
with the BBC.
2:40:51
Let's go to the Ukraine update.
2:40:53
Everybody loves the Ukraine update.
2:40:56
Secretary of State Marco Rubio continues meeting with
2:40:58
G7 foreign ministers in Canada today.
2:41:01
Ukraine's foreign minister is attending as well.
2:41:04
Ukraine is seeking to buy 25 additional Patriot
2:41:07
defense systems from the U.S. And today's
2:41:09
international correspondent, Arian Pasdar, has more.
2:41:12
Secretary of State Marco Rubio is among the
2:41:15
G7 officials welcoming Ukraine's foreign minister in Canada
2:41:18
on Wednesday.
2:41:19
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky recently said he wants
2:41:23
to order 25 Patriot air defense systems from
2:41:26
the United States.
2:41:27
Meanwhile, Canada has announced additional sanctions on people
2:41:30
and entities involved in Russia's drone program.
2:41:33
The measure will affect 13 people and 11
2:41:36
entities, including several involved in the development and
2:41:40
deployment of Russian drones.
2:41:42
Meanwhile, in Ukraine, Kiev is battling an alleged
2:41:44
major $100 million corruption scheme.
2:41:47
Anti-corruption authorities say they detained five people
2:41:50
suspected of involvement in the alleged plot to
2:41:53
control procurement in state energy enterprises.
2:41:56
Ukraine's government is now being shaken up.
2:41:59
On Wednesday, the country's energy minister resigned while
2:42:02
the justice minister was suspended.
2:42:05
This comes after President Volodymyr Zelensky called for
2:42:07
their dismissal.
2:42:09
I believe the justice minister and energy minister
2:42:12
can no longer remain in their positions.
2:42:15
This is a matter of trust.
2:42:17
If there are accusations, they must be addressed.
2:42:20
The corruption in the energy sector comes as
2:42:22
Russia keeps attacking Ukraine's energy infrastructure, which brings
2:42:26
blackouts across the country ahead of winter.
2:42:28
I was actually very angry after the shelling
2:42:32
of the energy infrastructure, because it turns out
2:42:35
that our energy facilities are not protected for
2:42:37
this year of the war.
2:42:38
The scandal also hurts Ukraine's bid to join
2:42:41
the European Union.
2:42:43
Fighting corruption is central to Kiev's goal for
2:42:45
EU membership.
2:42:47
Meanwhile, the fighting continues in eastern Ukraine.
2:42:50
Oh, that's interesting.
2:42:51
Do you think that this was part of
2:42:53
the we want to be in the EU?
2:42:55
So look what we did.
2:42:56
We got rid of some guys.
2:42:58
Maybe.
2:42:59
But it just points out that the whole
2:43:02
place is corrupt.
2:43:03
Of course it is.
2:43:04
I have actually a clip here from European
2:43:08
Parliament Vice President Hanna Virkunen about the media
2:43:13
in the EU.
2:43:16
They have instituted.
2:43:18
I didn't know about this.
2:43:20
It's called the Media Freedom Act.
2:43:26
Yeah, well, you know, with those wording, with
2:43:29
that wording, that means it is just the
2:43:31
opposite.
2:43:31
Well, in a way, you have to kind
2:43:34
of get into her accent.
2:43:35
But it's a short clip.
2:43:36
We are supporting our journalist work and our
2:43:41
news media.
2:43:42
Of course, these kind of programs, it's only
2:43:45
a very small part.
2:43:46
When we look the whole financial framework where
2:43:50
our media is working nowadays.
2:43:51
So I see that it's even more important
2:43:54
also to make sure that we are creating
2:43:57
more level playing field for our media.
2:44:00
Because we notice how she keeps saying our
2:44:02
media, our media, our media, our media.
2:44:04
Important also to make sure that we are
2:44:07
creating more level playing field for our media.
2:44:10
Because we know that our media is very
2:44:12
much under financial pressure because of the digitalization.
2:44:16
And because of the online platforms that the
2:44:18
people are not buying so much newspapers, for
2:44:20
example, anymore.
2:44:21
And a big part of advertising is also
2:44:23
in digital platforms.
2:44:25
So we have to also look at how
2:44:27
we can create more level playing field for
2:44:30
our media.
2:44:31
But at the same time, it's very important
2:44:32
also that we are supporting our journalist work
2:44:35
and free and independent media.
2:44:38
And of course, member states are also playing
2:44:40
a very important role here.
2:44:41
And that's why we have Media Freedom Act
2:44:43
now into place.
2:44:44
And member states are currently now implementing it.
2:44:47
And we are now encouraging all the member
2:44:48
states to implement it very fast.
2:44:51
Because there we are also looking the ownerships
2:44:54
and the structures of media in different member
2:44:56
states.
2:44:57
To make sure that we have free, independent
2:44:59
and media all over in our member states.
2:45:04
Yeah, so you're right.
2:45:05
Of course, this is not about free, independent
2:45:08
media.
2:45:09
The European Media Freedom Act provides grants to
2:45:12
state media for media innovation.
2:45:16
And journalism partnerships in the millions.
2:45:19
And all state media in Europe is all
2:45:23
socialist.
2:45:24
It's horrible.
2:45:26
It's no better than the BBC lying.
2:45:30
And it's controlled by the politicians.
2:45:34
Because the politicians here are controlling the money
2:45:36
that they want.
2:45:39
Another little tidbit from European legislation.
2:45:42
As of January 2027, every euro above 10
2:45:49
,000 euros in cash in your home becomes
2:45:52
illegal tender.
2:45:57
Every crypto transaction must be a data point
2:46:03
in the database.
2:46:08
So if I had $15,000 in cash
2:46:11
because I...
2:46:12
$5,000 is illegal.
2:46:13
I'm looking to buy a car.
2:46:15
Oh, no, no, no.
2:46:16
The EU anti-money laundering package starting in
2:46:21
2027.
2:46:22
Do they realize that drug dealers do business
2:46:27
in the millions?
2:46:28
Buying a car in cash will be a
2:46:31
crime.
2:46:32
What?
2:46:32
At 2027.
2:46:35
Sending over 1,000 euros without state approval
2:46:41
triggers prosecution.
2:46:43
The digital euro arrives in 2029.
2:46:51
And you will only be able to hold
2:46:54
3,000 euros in your digital euro.
2:46:57
Every purchase tracked, every pattern analyzed.
2:46:59
Yeah, this is great.
2:47:01
Why would anyone put up with this?
2:47:04
Because...
2:47:05
If I want to buy a car in
2:47:06
cash...
2:47:07
No.
2:47:08
No.
2:47:08
Just no.
2:47:10
No.
2:47:12
You can't.
2:47:12
Why?
2:47:14
Because you will own nothing and you will
2:47:16
be happy.
2:47:18
No.
2:47:19
Just no.
2:47:20
I got to get my kid out of
2:47:21
there before 2029.
2:47:23
This is nuts.
2:47:24
Yeah, well, you're not having much success from
2:47:26
the way I see it.
2:47:27
They're coming for Christmas.
2:47:28
They're coming for Christmas, and I'm going to
2:47:30
take them around.
2:47:31
I'm going to show them how wonderful it
2:47:33
is in America.
2:47:36
America.
2:47:37
And Christmas is a great time, particularly in
2:47:39
Fredericksburg.
2:47:40
Oh, is it one of those festive little
2:47:42
towns during Christmas?
2:47:43
We are the Christmas town of Texas.
2:47:47
Is that right?
2:47:48
Oh, yeah.
2:47:49
Well, where's the photos from last year?
2:47:52
I haven't seen one photo of what you
2:47:54
just said.
2:47:55
You should have had photos.
2:47:56
You send them to me.
2:47:57
I put them in the newsletter.
2:47:58
There's a lot of things we can do
2:47:59
with these photos.
2:48:00
I want to see some really dynamite photos.
2:48:02
I will send you some dynamite photos because
2:48:04
we will be on one of the balconies
2:48:06
on Main Street, because we are connected.
2:48:09
What are you doing on a balcony?
2:48:10
Just sitting there?
2:48:11
Well, then you can see the whole parade
2:48:13
go by.
2:48:14
Oh, there's a parade.
2:48:15
You didn't say anything about that.
2:48:16
Well, you didn't let me get to it.
2:48:18
Are you going to try to get the
2:48:18
kid there before the parade?
2:48:19
Is it called the Christmas parade?
2:48:21
What is it called?
2:48:22
Yeah, it's a Christmas.
2:48:23
Well, it's the lighting.
2:48:24
We have a big Christmas tree on the
2:48:26
marked box.
2:48:26
You have like a Rockefeller Center Christmas tree
2:48:30
type thing?
2:48:31
Jawohl.
2:48:31
And we have all kinds of...
2:48:33
Jawohl.
2:48:35
Yes, we do.
2:48:36
Yes, yes.
2:48:37
I finally found the guy who speaks German
2:48:39
here.
2:48:40
Bert.
2:48:41
So we wanted to have our...
2:48:43
The rest of them won't tell you.
2:48:45
A gas fireplace.
2:48:47
And so we got a number from the
2:48:50
guy we bought the house from.
2:48:51
And Bert comes over.
2:48:53
And it turns out Bert is the owner
2:48:54
of Hill Country Propane, which is the propane
2:48:58
company.
2:48:58
Just like Hank Hill.
2:48:59
Yes.
2:49:01
And Bert says, yeah, I'm...
2:49:02
Does he talk like this?
2:49:03
He does.
2:49:04
And he says, I'm 71.
2:49:05
They won't let me retire.
2:49:07
But I love doing these myself.
2:49:10
And he had stories about how...
2:49:12
Did he call you Bobby?
2:49:13
He did not call me Bobby.
2:49:16
He had great stories.
2:49:17
He was into drag car racing.
2:49:20
And he has an incredible history.
2:49:22
And he's like fifth generation Fredericksburg.
2:49:25
Still has 400 acres himself.
2:49:27
Wonderful people out here.
2:49:30
And what was it?
2:49:33
He said for his wedding, his college buddy,
2:49:37
he said, yeah, I want your band to
2:49:40
play at my wedding.
2:49:42
And so his buddy came over and they
2:49:44
set up.
2:49:44
He said, you know, we got...
2:49:48
Our singer quit.
2:49:49
So we're auditioning a new singer.
2:49:51
And it's going to be here during your
2:49:54
wedding.
2:49:54
And he said, that's fine.
2:49:55
I don't care.
2:49:56
That singer was George Strait.
2:49:59
My buddy.
2:50:00
My buddy, George Strait.
2:50:02
One of the top singers in the world
2:50:04
ever.
2:50:04
Yeah, well, that was his audition.
2:50:06
And his college buddy still plays drums for
2:50:10
George Strait.
2:50:12
It's a magical town, John.
2:50:15
We've got magical people here.
2:50:17
Just remember.
2:50:18
Yeah, and they give us Fredericksburg insight that
2:50:21
we can rebut.
2:50:22
Inverse, inverse Fredericksburg.
2:50:24
What is it called again?
2:50:26
I got to get to write it down.
2:50:27
What is it called?
2:50:28
Inverse Fredericksburg.
2:50:30
Just inverse Fredericksburg.
2:50:31
Yeah, it's like inverse Kramer.
2:50:34
Whatever Kramer says on CNBC, do the opposite.
2:50:38
By the way, next week, MSNBC goes to
2:50:42
MSNOW.
2:50:43
Yeah, on the 15th.
2:50:44
I'm very excited.
2:50:46
They're going to have new producers.
2:50:49
Well, that's what they say.
2:50:51
Could be musical chairs for all we know.
2:50:53
Yes.
2:50:54
And I have an update.
2:50:56
Yes.
2:50:57
Not quite sports ball, but I figured this
2:51:00
was an update that you'd be interested in.
2:51:02
Here we go.
2:51:03
Konnichiwa, and thanks for joining us on Grand
2:51:05
Sumo Highlight.
2:51:06
It's day two of the November tournament.
2:51:09
Yokozuna Onosato got off to an auspicious start
2:51:11
with a convincing day one victory.
2:51:13
He seems well positioned to capture his fourth
2:51:17
title of the year and do it in
2:51:19
back-to-back fashion.
2:51:20
There you go.
2:51:21
There's your sumo update.
2:51:23
Good God.
2:51:25
There was like some 16-year-old kid
2:51:27
that was a third of the size of
2:51:29
the sumo wrestler, and he beat him.
2:51:32
Did you see that?
2:51:33
No, I didn't see this.
2:51:34
I didn't see day two.
2:51:35
I saw day one, and I've been watching.
2:51:38
See, this is why I bring the sumo
2:51:40
updates.
2:51:40
Well, you know, here's what the problem is
2:51:43
with this tournament.
2:51:46
They always play it on three or four
2:51:49
different specific hours, the highlights.
2:51:51
You can watch it live if you want
2:51:53
to, but you have to wait until after
2:51:54
midnight.
2:51:54
I love watching it live.
2:51:56
Oh, I mean, I watched one maybe once
2:52:00
live.
2:52:00
It takes forever.
2:52:02
You don't have any clue about how long
2:52:04
it takes to do one match until you
2:52:06
watch it live.
2:52:07
I know, and they're dilly-dallying, and they
2:52:08
keep squatting down.
2:52:09
They get up.
2:52:10
They get down.
2:52:11
They take a shit.
2:52:12
They take a pee.
2:52:13
They go here.
2:52:13
They go there.
2:52:14
They get up.
2:52:14
They get down.
2:52:15
They get up.
2:52:15
They get down.
2:52:15
It goes on forever, and they finally have
2:52:17
the match.
2:52:17
It does look like they're pooping, doesn't it?
2:52:21
Well, there's just one thing.
2:52:22
It's just ridiculous.
2:52:24
So those highlights are the way to go.
2:52:26
So what happened, though, is after Daylight Saving
2:52:29
Time switched back, the times on the shows
2:52:33
haven't switched back.
2:52:34
They're the same time, so they're off an
2:52:36
hour.
2:52:36
So I'm the schedule-oriented type of guy,
2:52:40
and so when I expected I'd go watch
2:52:43
the sumo at 9.30, and oh, it's
2:52:45
already over.
2:52:46
Oh, bummer.
2:52:47
They played it at 8.30. Yeah, and
2:52:50
it'll take me probably two tournaments to get
2:52:54
the timing right.
2:52:55
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is your Sportsball
2:52:57
Update.
2:53:12
And while we had a big first half
2:53:13
of the show, we have a lesser second
2:53:15
half of the show in terms of numbers
2:53:17
of donors.
2:53:18
In fact, it's one of the all-time
2:53:19
lows total, with a grand total of 25
2:53:23
people who actually came in.
2:53:25
And so it's going to be a very
2:53:26
short segment, which Adam will now read, beginning
2:53:29
with our buddy in Sparks.
2:53:32
Yes, that is Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada,
2:53:35
and she sends us $167.
2:53:38
Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina.
2:53:41
Vote Lindsey Graham out, 105-35.
2:53:45
Rochelle Leszczynski in Bailey, Colorado.
2:53:48
What does she say here?
2:53:50
Oh, something about the Gen Zs.
2:53:52
If you want more people to listen live,
2:53:53
tell them what day or time they should
2:53:55
tune in.
2:53:56
Old-school radio appointment setting strategy, but it
2:53:59
works.
2:54:00
It helps the new Gen Z listeners.
2:54:01
No, they can't read clocks, so they'll never
2:54:04
know.
2:54:05
Oh, that's Rocky!
2:54:06
We do this.
2:54:06
On DHM Plug, we constantly pound Horowitz does,
2:54:12
the time that the show runs live.
2:54:14
By the way, I didn't realize, I didn't
2:54:17
realize that this is, that's her real name.
2:54:21
This is Rocky Thomas sending this donation.
2:54:24
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Rocky Thomas!
2:54:27
Rocky Thomas!
2:54:28
Yeah!
2:54:31
Well, who's Rocky Thomas?
2:54:33
Rocky, she's a friend, Rocky Thomas.
2:54:37
She is the chief success officer, chief revenue
2:54:43
officer, one of the co-founders of Live365.
2:54:47
Oh, really?
2:54:47
Yes, and she is what they call a
2:54:49
technic up there in Colorado with her husband
2:54:52
and their kids.
2:54:52
Yes, go podcasting.
2:54:53
You're right, Rocky Thomas.
2:54:54
We shall tell everybody, listen live at 1
2:54:58
p.m. Texas time.
2:55:00
Figure it out for wherever you live.
2:55:02
Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina, 808.
2:55:06
You left Mike.
2:55:06
Oh, Mike.
2:55:08
Sorry, Mike.
2:55:09
10535, sumo donation.
2:55:11
Wow, how about that?
2:55:12
Now we go to Kevin, who says Laos
2:55:15
Deo translates to praise be to God inscribed
2:55:17
on top of the Washington Monument facing east
2:55:20
towards the rising sun.
2:55:21
That's his boob donation.
2:55:22
And then Sir Scott, he is in fact
2:55:26
the Black Knight of the No Agenda Armory.
2:55:28
He says this donation is to celebrate my
2:55:30
60th trip around the sun on Wednesday the
2:55:33
12th.
2:55:34
Scott, of course, is always to be found.
2:55:36
It's at the many meetups in the Austin
2:55:38
area.
2:55:38
He organized a lot of them with his
2:55:40
beautiful wife.
2:55:41
This takes me to the title of Black
2:55:42
Viscount of the No Agenda Armory.
2:55:44
I'm a full priced viscount, no double credit
2:55:47
donations, no executive producer titles, no Commodore titles
2:55:51
or other gimmicks.
2:55:53
Just two hundred ninety five, twelve dollar and
2:55:55
fifty cent auto bank paychecks on every payday
2:55:58
with a few other donations at meetups sprinkled
2:56:01
in to be a viscount with no ass
2:56:03
dicks.
2:56:04
That's a Reverend Al reference.
2:56:08
Please pay and play the David Bowie title
2:56:10
change jingle couple with health karma to help
2:56:13
me get over my hypertension battle so I
2:56:15
can once again have the energy to start
2:56:17
hosting Austin meetups.
2:56:18
Thank you, Scott R.
2:56:21
Morgan.
2:56:21
He is Sir Scott, the Black Knight of
2:56:23
the No Agenda Armory and a friend of
2:56:25
the show.
2:56:25
Thank you, Sir Scott.
2:56:26
Congratulations.
2:56:27
He came in with sixty two forty one.
2:56:28
Yes, he did.
2:56:29
Christopher Dechter, fifty six, seventy eight, five, six,
2:56:32
seven, eight.
2:56:32
Gina Moley with fifty two, seventy two.
2:56:35
I'm pretty sure that's fifty dollars with fees.
2:56:37
Thank you for the tip about Amarula.
2:56:40
Bought it, brought it to a dinner party.
2:56:42
Everybody loved it.
2:56:44
Dessert with raspberries, with ice cream.
2:56:45
It was delicious poured over the top.
2:56:47
Oh, there's a tip on the tip.
2:56:50
Hannah Richter, fifty two, seventy two.
2:56:53
Steven Shoemaker in Xenia, Ohio.
2:56:55
Fifty.
2:56:56
These are the fifties.
2:56:57
Scott McCarty, Lodi, California.
2:56:59
Tim Del Vecchio in Blandon, Pennsylvania.
2:57:02
Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California.
2:57:05
Isn't that where all the tech guys live?
2:57:07
Woodland Hills.
2:57:08
I'm thinking.
2:57:09
I don't know.
2:57:10
I don't think so.
2:57:10
Patricia Worthington, Miami, Florida.
2:57:13
Dame Patricia Worthington.
2:57:14
Brandon Savoie in Port Orchard, Washington.
2:57:18
Commodore Sir Crummy in El Cajon, California.
2:57:23
And winding it up there is Harry Klan
2:57:25
from Aledo, Texas.
2:57:26
Thank you all very much.
2:57:28
These are the rest of our producers.
2:57:29
Fifty dollars and above.
2:57:30
We do not mention or thank under fifty
2:57:33
directly, but we are thankful.
2:57:34
Of course, that is for reasons of anonymity,
2:57:37
and you can support the best podcast in
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the universe by going to noagendadonations.com and
2:57:42
supporting us with any amount that you thought
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you got out of the show.
2:57:45
Value for value.
2:57:47
You can always set up a recurring donation
2:57:49
like Sir Scott.
2:57:50
Any amount, any frequency.
2:57:52
Noagendadonations.com And it's looking a bit like
2:58:01
the donation list there.
2:58:03
Only one birthday.
2:58:04
Only one, but it is the big 6
2:58:06
-0.
2:58:07
Sir Scott.
2:58:07
The Viscount to be of the Armory.
2:58:10
Turned 60 years old.
2:58:12
Congratulations.
2:58:13
Happy birthday from everybody here.
2:58:14
The best podcast in the universe.
2:58:27
And by request, Sir Scott receives the David
2:58:30
Bowie title change as he goes from Black
2:58:33
Knight of the Noagenda Armory to Sir Scott
2:58:35
Black Viscount of the Noagenda Armory.
2:58:39
Thanks to, what was it, 275 $12.50
2:58:42
donations.
2:58:43
It does work, people.
2:58:44
Thank you very much, Sir Scott.
2:58:45
We love you.
2:58:46
We love you long time, my friend.
2:58:48
Before we get to our dames and knights,
2:58:50
we do have several recipients of the Noagenda
2:58:53
International Peace Prize, which can be picked up
2:58:56
at noagendarings.com and is well-deserved by
2:58:59
the following people, who are the recipients of
2:59:02
the Noagenda International Peace Prize.
2:59:05
Sir Animus of Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia, JD,
2:59:10
Taylor, and Ashley.
2:59:12
These, of course, are the Crypto Granny kids
2:59:14
or grandkids.
2:59:16
Yeah, grandkids.
2:59:17
Congratulations, and welcome to that elite club that
2:59:21
includes our president, our vice president, and the
2:59:24
negotiation team of Make Gaza Great Again.
2:59:28
And we have two dames and two knights,
2:59:32
so get your blade out, John, if you
2:59:33
don't mind.
2:59:34
Here you go.
2:59:35
That's a beauty.
2:59:36
Welcome to the stage, Taylor, Ashley, JD, and
2:59:42
Double T.
2:59:42
All of you become knights or dames of
2:59:45
the Noagenda Roundtable.
2:59:47
I'm very proud to pronounce the K-D
2:59:48
as Dame Tay-Tay of the Durango, Dame
2:59:51
Ashley, Little Miss Sunshine, JD, Knight of River's
2:59:54
Edge, and Sir Double T of the Nostraverse.
2:59:58
For you, we've got hookers and blow, rentboys
2:59:59
and chardonnay, bourbon, brussels sprouts, and some amazing
3:00:03
mac and cheese of the apple pie flavor
3:00:06
variety.
3:00:07
Along with that, we've got ruby mess, lemon
3:00:08
and rosé, geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla,
3:00:11
bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts,
3:00:13
ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pavlova.
3:00:15
And as always here at the Roundtable, we've
3:00:17
got the mutton and the mead.
3:00:19
You've got rings.
3:00:20
Rings are for you.
3:00:20
Go to noagenderrings.com.
3:00:22
You might meet some International Peace Prize recipients
3:00:25
there as well.
3:00:26
And take a look at that beautiful ring.
3:00:28
It is a signet ring, so we send
3:00:30
you some wax, which you can melt down,
3:00:32
press that ring into to seal your important
3:00:34
correspondence.
3:00:35
It always comes with a certificate of authenticity.
3:00:37
And as always, please use the handy ring
3:00:40
sizing guide there to let us know what
3:00:42
size to send you and where to send
3:00:44
it.
3:00:44
And welcome our brand-new knights and dames
3:00:46
of the Noagenda Roundtable.
3:00:48
No Agenda Meetups!
3:00:55
Well, that's right.
3:00:56
We've got tons of meetups taking place all
3:00:58
over the globe.
3:00:59
We love it when people tell us how
3:01:01
it went.
3:01:01
And here is the Oklahoma City Meetup Report.
3:01:04
They titled this meetup, Everything's an Op.
3:01:07
Hey, this is Sir Art Vandele.
3:01:09
We are here at the Everything's an Op
3:01:12
OKC No Agenda Meetup.
3:01:14
And we're going to go around and let
3:01:16
everybody say their peace.
3:01:18
I am Sharjahcus Maximus.
3:01:20
In the morning.
3:01:21
ITM No Agenda.
3:01:22
This is Fomer Brahman giving a quick shout
3:01:25
-out to Carl and Char.
3:01:27
Greetings from a local generationally irrelevant Zoomer.
3:01:31
ITM, y'all.
3:01:33
This is the Oklahoma formerly in the swamp
3:01:36
being a cute little douchebag.
3:01:38
In the morning.
3:01:39
In the morning, this is Aaron from Norman.
3:01:41
Besos to John and Adam.
3:01:42
This is Dame Cassidy Eastwood of Dimension A.
3:01:46
Sir Demo Dave.
3:01:47
In the morning.
3:01:48
In the morning, it's Dave who brings a
3:01:50
bird.
3:01:50
And we're talking about shoegaze.
3:01:52
Hi!
3:01:54
All right, there you have it.
3:01:55
It's been an awesome time.
3:01:57
ITM.
3:01:58
In the morning!
3:02:01
And unfortunately, they did not include their server
3:02:03
in the report.
3:02:04
We always love hearing that, and it gives
3:02:06
a promotion to the establishment.
3:02:07
Maybe the Indie Meetup did better.
3:02:09
Dame Annette, here's her report.
3:02:10
This is Sarah Mark.
3:02:12
And this is Dame Maria.
3:02:13
And this is the Indie NA Meetup coming
3:02:15
to you live from Fort Wayne, Indiana at
3:02:18
the estate of Sir PBR Street Gang and
3:02:20
Dame Trinity.
3:02:21
It was an amazing event, and the long
3:02:23
and short barrels were quite tasty.
3:02:25
In the morning, John and Adam, Sir PBR
3:02:27
Street Gang.
3:02:28
I guess we are hosting this, keeping America
3:02:30
safe from pumpkins.
3:02:31
Hat tip to my nephew, great range master,
3:02:35
having a great time here in Fort Wayne.
3:02:36
Dame Trinity hosting a great meetup along with
3:02:40
Sir PBR Street Gang.
3:02:41
We had a great turnout, beautiful weather, and
3:02:44
a lot of great company and food.
3:02:45
In the morning, Mike Stulak, a.k.a.
3:02:47
Region Rat from Hobart, Indiana.
3:02:49
Sir Ohio Bloke here in Cherubusco, Indiana, because
3:02:52
apparently Ohio is too boring.
3:02:54
Sir Son of a Bloke, go sports ball.
3:02:57
This is Sir Up of the Maple, having
3:02:59
a fantastic time here in Fort Wayne, not
3:03:01
Indianapolis.
3:03:02
In the morning, this is Dominic of Hicksville,
3:03:05
and this is my first meetup.
3:03:06
And evidently I brought too many guns.
3:03:08
In the morning, Adam and John, this is
3:03:10
Josh from Indianapolis.
3:03:12
Guns, friends, and food.
3:03:14
Yum.
3:03:14
In the morning, this is Alicia, glad to
3:03:16
be here today shooting pumpkins, thanks to Sir
3:03:19
PBR Street Gang and Dame Trinity.
3:03:21
In the morning, John and Adam, this is
3:03:22
Nader from Indianapolis.
3:03:23
You're a code Bongino for that Too Many
3:03:25
Guns website.
3:03:26
In the morning, John and Adam, I just
3:03:27
found out Maria is non-Mexican, so I'm
3:03:29
calling off the ice raid.
3:03:31
No policia, por favor.
3:03:32
In the morning, 6-7, 6-7.
3:03:40
Those guys are crazy.
3:03:41
That was their shoot-up meetup, that's what
3:03:44
that was.
3:03:44
Beautiful, thank you very much.
3:03:45
A couple more meetups taking place, one you
3:03:47
might want to go to.
3:03:49
We have some important ones on the 15th,
3:03:52
that'll be Saturday.
3:03:53
The Dallas-Fort Worth Mid-Cities Turkey, optional,
3:03:56
starts at 11.30 in the morning at
3:03:57
Chef Point Cafe in Coleyville, Texas.
3:04:00
The Fort Wayne No Agenda Club 33, number
3:04:03
38, at Hall's Tavern in Coventry, Fort Wayne,
3:04:07
Indiana.
3:04:08
And then the big Northern Silicon Valley Get
3:04:10
John Out of the House meetup at 3
3:04:12
.33 p.m. at Club Mallard in Albany,
3:04:15
California.
3:04:16
Go get John out of the house.
3:04:17
Also, the No Agenda Central Ohio meetup kicks
3:04:19
off at 5.30 on Saturday at Dempsey's
3:04:22
in Columbus, Ohio.
3:04:23
And the Gitmo Nation Fondue meetup, this is
3:04:26
the Zurich meetup, Switzerland, 6 o'clock at
3:04:29
Nelson's Pub in Zurich, Switzerland.
3:04:31
Looking forward to a meetup report from you
3:04:34
guys, and there is an RSVP on that
3:04:36
one.
3:04:36
Many more to find at noagendameetups.com.
3:04:39
Once you go to one of these, you
3:04:40
will want to keep coming back.
3:04:41
You will find connection that gives you protection.
3:04:44
These people will be your first responders in
3:04:45
any emergency.
3:04:46
Go to noagendameetups.com to find out if
3:04:49
there's one happening near you.
3:04:50
If there isn't one, here's an idea, start
3:04:52
one yourself.
3:04:53
It's easy, it's fun, and it's always a
3:04:55
party.
3:04:56
Sometimes you want to go hang out with
3:04:59
all the nights and days.
3:05:04
You won't be triggered or held to blame.
3:05:09
You want to be where everybody feels the
3:05:12
same.
3:05:14
It's like a party.
3:05:16
A reminder, we do have John's tip of
3:05:18
the day coming up.
3:05:19
We have some great end-of-show slop,
3:05:22
end-of-show mixes, which are not all
3:05:25
AI.
3:05:25
I think you'll enjoy them.
3:05:26
Before that, we always like to determine what
3:05:30
we're going to play as our end-of
3:05:32
-show ISO.
3:05:33
Actually, I'm over ISO today.
3:05:35
I have four of them.
3:05:36
Do you have two, I see?
3:05:39
Yes.
3:05:39
Okay, I'll start with mine.
3:05:41
I'm hungry.
3:05:44
Just like that kid so much.
3:05:46
Here's another one.
3:05:47
That is awesome.
3:05:49
I'm pulling from the archives.
3:05:51
It could have been better.
3:05:52
Yeah, they're doing great.
3:05:53
Well done.
3:05:54
Not too bad.
3:05:55
What?
3:05:56
I find that exhilarating.
3:05:58
All very positive.
3:05:59
All positive, all upbeats.
3:06:01
Yeah, it's about time.
3:06:04
I did like the second to the last
3:06:06
one.
3:06:06
I thought that was good.
3:06:07
Yeah, they're doing great.
3:06:08
Well done.
3:06:09
Yeah, that one, the British guy.
3:06:10
Okay, well, I have a couple.
3:06:12
You have to guess which one's AI.
3:06:13
Oh, okay.
3:06:14
I can see by the waveform, it's yup.
3:06:19
Well, let's start with best.
3:06:20
These two fellas are the best in the
3:06:23
business.
3:06:25
Not AI.
3:06:26
Okay, you fooled me.
3:06:27
Yeah.
3:06:29
And the other one?
3:06:31
Yup.
3:06:31
Yup.
3:06:32
This is the only good podcast anyone does.
3:06:36
These two fellas are the best in the
3:06:39
business.
3:06:39
Yeah, they're doing great.
3:06:40
Well done.
3:06:42
Ooh, I think that's a double combo.
3:06:45
I'm kind of liking that.
3:06:46
All right, I'm in.
3:06:47
I knew you'd be in.
3:06:49
And not only that, ladies and gentlemen, not
3:06:50
only is he in, but he has your
3:06:52
tip of the day.
3:06:54
Great advice from you and me.
3:06:57
Just the tip with JCD.
3:07:00
And sometimes Adam.
3:07:04
I'll get some flack for this one.
3:07:08
So there's a knife sharpener I've been using
3:07:10
for 30 years, and it keeps, I bought
3:07:13
a second one.
3:07:13
Well, why would you get flack?
3:07:15
Knife sharpeners are important.
3:07:16
I'm excited about this.
3:07:18
Well, I know why I'm going to get
3:07:20
flack.
3:07:22
I've tried all these different kinds of knife
3:07:24
sharpeners.
3:07:25
There's the three-stage, four-stage.
3:07:27
There's the one you do this and this
3:07:28
and this.
3:07:29
This is a one-shot knife sharpener.
3:07:33
It's one stage.
3:07:35
It's not a cheap sharpener.
3:07:36
It used to be cheaper.
3:07:38
And I think you can still get it
3:07:39
on sale if you look around.
3:07:40
It's the Zwilling, which I believe is Henkels,
3:07:46
but Zwilling 32590-300 Twin Sharp Knife Sharpener.
3:07:53
It's a funny-looking thing, and it's easy
3:07:57
to hold down.
3:07:58
You hold it down to the ground, to
3:08:01
the table, and then you drag the knife
3:08:03
across this little slot.
3:08:06
And I have had, I have old pre
3:08:09
-World War II steel knives.
3:08:12
I've got some.
3:08:13
Wait, wait.
3:08:14
Are these the knives that you used to
3:08:17
kill Nazis?
3:08:20
I think they would work.
3:08:23
Zwilling.
3:08:24
What is the number again?
3:08:27
It's the Zwilling 32590-300.
3:08:33
It's called a Twin Sharp.
3:08:35
And I have some sabatieres that I've had
3:08:42
since the 70s, and I keep sharpening them.
3:08:45
And I think it sharpens the hell out
3:08:50
of any blade, except the Japanese blade.
3:08:52
If you have Japanese blades, you have to
3:08:54
get a stone.
3:08:55
Don't use a Japanese blade on this thing.
3:08:58
This is like a, it's made of plastic
3:09:01
handle.
3:09:01
Is that the one?
3:09:03
Yeah, it's got the, it's got a funny
3:09:04
shape.
3:09:05
It's got a plastic handle.
3:09:06
Yeah, it holds down, and then you pull
3:09:07
your knife across towards you.
3:09:09
That's a very simplistic, 49 bucks on Amazon,
3:09:12
I see.
3:09:13
Yeah, it's too high, but it's what it
3:09:14
is.
3:09:15
But you pull the knife, you put the
3:09:17
knife in, and you pull it toward you,
3:09:18
and you do, two of those will sharpen
3:09:20
any knife pretty quickly.
3:09:21
Except for the Japanese ones.
3:09:24
The Japanese knife's got a different blade angle,
3:09:27
and everything's wrong.
3:09:28
And a good Japanese knife needs a stone,
3:09:31
and you have to go to get them
3:09:32
from a Japanese.
3:09:33
I have a Japanese stone that's from some
3:09:35
mountain in Japan.
3:09:36
It's so famous.
3:09:38
Is that a hueting stone?
3:09:41
Yeah, they have these, yes.
3:09:43
They have, the Japanese have all these rituals
3:09:46
about stone sharpening, and they have these myths
3:09:50
about the stone mountain, that you have to
3:09:53
take a chunk from that, and use that
3:09:55
to sharpen your knife.
3:09:55
It's a long story.
3:09:57
But with Japanese knives, they're very, especially the
3:10:01
good ones.
3:10:02
So you have to be careful with those.
3:10:03
You know what I would like in follow
3:10:06
-up to this, which I think would really
3:10:07
complete the series?
3:10:08
I would like a knife tip of the
3:10:10
day.
3:10:10
A kitchen knife tip of the day.
3:10:12
I think you could do several of them,
3:10:14
actually.
3:10:16
I could do quite a few knife tips
3:10:18
of the day, yes.
3:10:20
Okay.
3:10:21
I'll work on the ultimate knife tip.
3:10:24
You can find this tip and all of
3:10:26
John's tips of the day at tipoftheday.net.
3:10:28
Take a look.
3:10:29
It's worth it.
3:10:30
Great advice for you and me.
3:10:33
Just a tip with JCB.
3:10:36
And sometimes Adam.
3:10:39
Created by Dana Brunetti.
3:10:40
Yes, and we thank Dana Brunetti for this
3:10:42
fabulous creation.
3:10:44
The flack I'm going to get is that
3:10:46
this type of sharpener does, it can hurt,
3:10:50
you can kill yourself with it?
3:10:52
No, no, it attacks the blade rather aggressively.
3:10:56
Oh, so it's an aggressive sharpener.
3:10:59
We have end-of-show mixes, people, and
3:11:01
you will like them.
3:11:02
David Denton, Sir Joho, FBI Junk, and Nico
3:11:05
Syme.
3:11:06
And remember, you can hear 24-7 non
3:11:10
-stop end-of-show mixes and AI slop
3:11:12
at gitmojams.com.
3:11:14
Turn it on in the car.
3:11:16
Amaze your friends and family and the kids.
3:11:19
They will all love it.
3:11:20
Hello, darling.
3:11:21
And my beautiful wife coming in with my
3:11:23
after-show drink.
3:11:25
Yeah, perfect.
3:11:26
Oh, is the modality?
3:11:27
The show's not over.
3:11:27
The show's not over.
3:11:29
Coming up next on the Noah Jenner stream,
3:11:31
bowl after bowl.
3:11:32
Make sure you stay tuned for that.
3:11:34
And please remember us.
3:11:36
We'll be back on Sunday.
3:11:38
And I'm coming to you from the Christmas
3:11:40
capital of the world, Fredericksburg, Texas, the heart
3:11:43
of the hill country.
3:11:44
Good morning, everybody.
3:11:45
I'm Adam Currie.
3:11:46
Ben from Maryland Silicon Valley.
3:11:48
I'm John C.
3:11:48
Dvorak.
3:11:49
We'll be back on Sunday, and you will
3:11:51
be here with us.
3:11:52
Remember us at NoahJennerDonations.com.
3:11:54
Until then, adios, mofos, a-hooey, hooey, and
3:11:58
such.
3:12:02
Here we go.
3:12:04
On the Noah Jenner show.
3:12:08
We got the buzzkill with the morning news
3:12:12
and deconstruction blues.
3:12:15
We got the Gitmo nation.
3:12:18
That's all the truth.
3:12:23
Noah Jenner show.
3:12:25
It's the best part, yeah.
3:12:30
Noah Jenner show.
3:12:31
It's the best part, yeah.
3:12:37
Noah Jenner show.
3:12:43
Noah Jenner show.
3:12:48
In the universe.
3:12:50
Is.
3:12:54
Is.
3:12:56
Noah Jenner is.
3:13:01
Is.
3:13:03
Noah Jenner.
3:13:13
Media deconstruction.
3:13:16
Deconstruct the media.
3:13:20
Media deconstruction.
3:13:25
Deconstruct the media.
3:13:29
Go.
3:13:32
Go.
3:13:36
Go.
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Agenda.
3:13:43
Go.
3:13:48
Agenda.
3:13:55
Hello?
3:13:58
Are you there, Adam?
3:14:02
Are you there, John?
3:14:07
This is your executive producer.
3:14:10
This is your associate executive producer.
3:14:20
Crackpot.
3:14:22
And buzzkill.
3:14:26
Bake a light.
3:14:28
Phone.
3:14:29
In drawer.
3:14:30
Wine tips.
3:14:35
Go.
3:14:37
Go.
3:14:38
Go.
3:14:45
Agenda.
3:14:46
Go.
3:14:53
Go.
3:14:56
Agenda.
3:14:56
I'm getting a home.
3:14:58
Dinger.
3:15:56
I walk
3:16:12
in the gym, feeling like heaven, everybody's shouting,
3:16:19
six, seven, don't need no lesson, just hit
3:16:26
the pole, lesson, six, seven, ayy, we're together
3:16:33
for the vibe, whoo, try jumping in the
3:16:38
same direction, oh, that's the section,
3:16:49
oh, that's
3:17:14
how, the best podcast in the universe, adios,
3:17:24
mofo, dvorak.org, slash, n, a, these two
3:17:30
fellas are the best in the business, yeah,
3:17:33
they're doing great, well done.