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1439: COVID Retrospective
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April 3rd, 2022
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Adam curry Jhansi Devorah and Sunday April 3 2022. This is
your award winning give on nation media assassination
episode 1439. This is no agenda,
COVID clock and broadcasting almost live from the heart of
the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's my birthday week. I'm
My my voice is still cracking. Long, long, long. COVID
continues long. COVID long COVID
It's hardly noticeable. Yeah,
it was better on Thursday. And I just cracked. So here we are.
We're almost live. It's kind of like we're really here. You of
course are in the Seychelles wish. Have you ever been to
No, but I've been told by a couple of guys who do a lot of
traveling. They've been all over the world. They say the
Seychelles is the best. Yeah, I've never been unfortunate. I
don't know if it's true anymore. This was like 20 years 20 plus
years ago wasn't the
Seychelles the one that was going to tip over from climate
It was one of the islands but I don't think it was that that was
gonna say show I was gonna drown national idiot. Yeah.
So we're taking now. I am hoping that I got the timing of this
right. The reason for this break is because we you and I haven't
had a break in a year.
Year and a half to almost two years. I think it was two years
not away with Tina and I went away. We had a break in 2020. Do
we have one in 2012? I can't remember if we had one. No,
Bolden must have been I know we didn't have one is 2020 You
can't remember when you last one on vacation then it was a while
ago? Yeah. So I hoped I timed this before the the the food
shortages and the financial collapse. And I think we did
pretty well by timing it after the Ukrainian war and COVID.
We've done pretty well.
We'll see if you can't get back. We'll know the reason why.
But they're definitely gonna kick that into high gear.
They're definitely COVID is coming back. We have all the
evidence. They're going to do something it's gonna be testing
gold dragon to get much traction, they got to find
something else to do dig their work. They can't bring it.
Democrats can't bring it back because they're gonna they
already know they got troubles for the midterms. Yeah, they
can't take a chance on pissing off everybody. They would bring
it back maybe to get to a mail in ballots so they can scam that
now. They can't they can't drag it out. We'll see. In the
meanwhile, the art for the last episode 1438 Taunton, Neil, I
believe was clearly perfect because you called the end of
the COVID pandemic, April 2022. And here we are,
seems to be over perfect timing, and the war should be over by
the time we get back.
Until then, what have you put together for us for this
is a show of COVID clips only. And I've got a couple hours
worth in it's like all the stuff from the beginning with the
first clip when we first met COVID first appeared on the
scene right through the goal two or three weeks, so it has
flattened the curve. And I got the boat coming out to bring in
the Mercy Ships. Oh,
I forgot about those. Yeah, the hospital ships,
ships, they didn't send one person to and they have
ventilators we need more ventilator so we can kill more
people. And they there's just a lot of good stuff and a lot of
has been forgotten but I think this will bring back a few
now as I was listening to the next week. Next episode. So next
next ship next
I'm losing it the next episodes clips, which will be the best of
end of show mixes it's really incredible what the human brain
has had I'm sure you'd notice this what the human brain has
had to endure in the past two and a half years of bullshit
being injected directly through our retinas into our brains.
Yeah, to good thing we're doing this show I don't know where
we'd be I mean it's not
it's not just okay we had a virus and then there was
problems. I mean, all the stuff it's amazing to think and I
think people will realize this when they listen to it how much
bull crap was thrown at your brain and your amygdala non stop
Yeah, it's pretty nonstop that was the problem I think either
way Ross remember the one good thing was that out here because
of the way they structured the shutdown stay at home laws. They
had this media exemption thing which included podcasters so I'm
out and about but their traffic down to nothing there's nobody
on the roads and driving around
beauty rate and this so these clips are just the clips not us.
I'm sorry, the clips the this specialist just the clips not
Yeah, you The clips love it. And please note there are no vaccine
clips in this batch because this is from January 2020 to May
1 2020 It's just unbelievable.
Let's kick it off COVID Best of ever go.
We will show you inside Georges lugar laboratory which detects
and prevents the spread of dangerous diseases. But pro
Kremlin media claim it spreads disease experimenting on humans
with cancer, the Zika virus killer mosquitoes and plagues of
stinkbugs. I asked the laboratories director whether
there was any truth to these narratives,
but we are not making Zika virus in this operator, the killer
mosquito about the laboratory is the the level of the laboratory
is so high that we can diagnose here the Zika Ebola creamier
Congo and many many infectious diseases. No killer blocky
making this virus is here.
No Marmorated Stink Bug coming from the lluvia laboratory but
the Marmorated Stink Bug. I'm not a scientist. But what I have
been seeing here suggests that this laboratory is exactly what
the Georgian government says it is. The Russian claims that
what's going on at the lugar lab is far more sinister, haven't
been supported by any hard evidence in taxes.
Authorities are warning that a traveler with measles may have
unknowingly exposed others across the country that come
that new alert comes amid an increase in measles cases
nationwide. Sam Brock is in Austin with the latest.
Tonight an urgent health alert from Texas after a passenger
infected with measles passed through the Austin Airport last
week after traveling in Europe. It's Travis county's first
detected case in 20 years.
We're trying to get on top of this share as much information
as we can to try to really contain this
the passenger left from Austin International Airport on
December 17, but then proceeded to go to airports in Chicago and
Virginia, meaning that other passengers and not one, not two,
but three different airports were potentially exposed this
after separate cases in LA X and Denver international airports
earlier this month. But health experts say Austin is at greater
risk because of low vaccination rates of children.
Austin unfortunately, is one of the epicenters of the anti
vaccine movement in America. A startling
study earlier this year estimates one infected person
could lead to an outbreak of more than 400 cases in Austin,
with nearly 1300 confirmed cases of the measles nationwide this
year more than three times the number last year the highly
contagious virus can linger in the air for hours. Symptoms
include cough, rash, fever and sore eyes. Tonight doctors say
it's another stark reminder to get vaccinated. Sam Brock, NBC
two year old Jude McGee, 26 year old newlywed Katie mutt
question. Gianna cabas sagg, a four year old little girl they
all died of the flu, and they all had flu shots. There's no
question you should get a flu shot. Last flu season the flu
killed at least 36,000 people so this shot could literally save
your life. But it's far from perfect.
Even on a good year, influenza. The effectiveness of the vaccine
is about 60% On a bad year. It's as
low as 10%.
Do we need to make a better flu vaccine?
You know, we really absolutely do.
In September, President Trump signed an executive order noting
that the current system for making flu shots has critical
shortcomings. The order pledges to modernize the process. The
first step, stop using eggs to make flu vaccine. They grow the
virus in the eggs like the eggs you eat for breakfast, and then
they kill the virus and put it in a vaccine. But sometimes the
virus changes inside the egg so it doesn't end up matching the
flu that's out there spreading among people. That's why some
companies like this one have figured out ways to grow the flu
virus without using eggs. Trump's executive order is
designed to encourage more of this technology and something
even bigger, something researchers have been working on
for years of flu vaccine you would get only once in your life
instead of every year. A new
viral outbreak from China is spreading around the world.
Countries like the US Japan and Thailand have confirmed cases.
And on Wednesday, a Chinese health official has said the
virus is adapting and mutating. So what exactly do we know about
this flu like virus? Your health officials now say it can be
passed from person to person. So far hundreds of cases have been
confirmed and several people have died. Symptoms include
fever, coughing and difficulty breathing and can lead to
pneumonia. The exact origins is unknown though Chinese officials
have linked the outbreak to a seafood market in the city of
Wuhan. All of the deaths so far have been in that central
Chinese city. It's also home to a Foxconn plant, which is a key
supplier to Apple. And it's hosting Olympic qualifiers for
women's soccer next month. thing to look out for next will be
what happens over Chinese New Year, and whether Fear takes its
toll on the global economy. Millions of people are preparing
to travel around China and abroad for the New Year
celebrations, raising the risk of a wider contagion. Fear of a
pandemic has also sent chills through the markets, investors
are comparing it to China's 2003 SARS outbreak that killed nearly
800 people, and by some estimates caused $40 billion in
global economic losses. Aviation and luxury goods stocks have
already been hit particularly hard with concerns it could
deter Chinese consumers from traveling or shopping.
What we know and I think this is one of the big points out and I
remember this covering the SARS outbreak and the MERS outbreak
at some point. The question is, is this something that is just
spreading from animals to humans as it seemed to be in central
China, people visiting the seafood and an exotic pet
markets? Or is this something that is spreading from human to
human? And we now have evidence that it is spreading from human
to human? Seems that 14 healthcare workers that were
taking care of this patient in Wuhan, were infected and we also
know people who never visited Wuhan are now carrying the
virus. So that human to human transmission is what this
meeting tomorrow this public health meeting is going to be
all about. Really scary.
I mean, or at least it sounds scary to the lay person.
And so what's keeping public health officials up at night
Well, you know, I think immediately what you think of
when you hear this Coronavirus, and we have an image of what
this looks like. You think a SARS you remember this I mean I
covered this 2003 You think of MERS by the way quick
microbiology Coronavirus, that's the crown on the outside, you'll
always be able to identify this type of virus. They're mostly an
animal's Allison seven times have we ever documented they
jumped from animals to humans and only two of those times what
didn't end up being a really significant infection, SARS and
MERS so what's keeping public health officials up at night is
is this going to go the way of SARS and MERS was SARS was a
nearly two dozen countries 8000 People infected 800 people died.
Is it going to go that way? Or is it going to be more of a more
innocuous gets people sick but people don't really die? We
don't know yet. And that's what they're going to try and
determine look at all this data and figure that out.
Found a new virus that has killed nine people and infected
hundreds more in China has now spread to the US. A man in his
30s from Washington State is the first person in America to be
diagnosed with Coronavirus. It's called the man returned to the
Seattle area last week from a trip to Wuhan. That's a city in
central China where the outbreak began. Right now that patient is
in isolation in a hospital north of Seattle.
Our number one priority is to complete the identification of
all the patients contacts, reach out to the contacts and monitor
their health. We also want to
enhance screening is already in place at three US airports with
two more being added this week. Are Dr. Tara Narula is you're at
the table with more on this story. You hear about it. You
see the mask. It's very disturbing. How worried should
we be? Yeah, and
what is it? Exactly?
So this is a form of Coronavirus. We've known about
Coronavirus before this is a new strain. This is a virus that's
found worldwide. It causes typically a mild or moderate
respiratory illness but it can be more severe. We saw that with
SARS and MERS which are also forms of Coronavirus. So
certainly the CDC is recommending that we be cautious
about this that we'd be proactive because it is a new
strain. It is contagious. So interestingly, they think it
does circulate in animals, and occasionally can make the jump
from animals to humans, which is what they think happened in this
case, because the initial cases were surrounding an area of
market a seafood animal market in the Wuhan area. And so they
think that it started in animals, it was transmitted to
humans. And now they're saying that, in fact that is spread
between human to humans. Bottom line,
we don't have to worry about this one, right. Well, I
you know, obviously you need to take it seriously and do the
kinds of things that the CDC and the Department of Homeland
Security are doing. But this is not a major threat for the
people in the United States. And this is not something that the
citizens of the United States right now should be worried
It's great to see. Thank you for joining us again in Davos. We've
done this before, right think was a couple of years ago.
Before we get started with with we're going to talk about the
economy a lot of other things. A The CDC has identified a case of
Coronavirus in Washington state the Wu Han strain of this if you
remember SARS that affected GDP travel related effects. Do you?
Have you been briefed by the CDC? The words about a pandemic
at this point? Oh,
not at all. And we're, we have a totally under control. It's one
person coming in from China. And we have it under control. It's
going to be just fine.
Okay. President Xi. There's just some some talk in China that
that maybe the transparency isn't everything that it's going
to be you trust that we're going to know everything we need to
know from China?
I do I do. I have a great relationship with President Xi.
We just signed probably the biggest deal ever made that
terms. It certainly has the potential to be the biggest deal
ever made. And it was very interesting for the time, let's
get without it done. And no, I do. I think the relationship is
very, very good.
It may take quite some time before we know the full economic
impact of the one virus but the disruption is likely to dent
China's economy. And that's because Wuhan is a major
transport hub in recent years has become a symbol of
capitalism in central China with international automakers, such
as Honda and General Motors Building cars there. In fact,
reports say that more than 300 of the world's top 500 companies
have a presence in Wuhan. Local government data showed that
one's GDP growth was 7.8% last year and that that is 1.7
percentage points higher than the national average. Who hands
economic strength last year came as its total value of imports
and exports hit a record high it was 13.7% higher than in 2018.
And it accounted for almost 62% of Hubei provinces
overall foreign trade value
tonight concern growing in the United States officials saying
they expect more people will contract the dangerous new
disease. Passengers on flights to Boston wearing face masks.
Everybody's wearing the mask because they're afraid of
getting infected by other people
in Seattle, Chicago and Los Angeles reports that stores are
running out of supplies of masks. Two cases currently
confirmed in Chicago a woman in her 60s She had cold like
symptoms shortness of breath, fever, and many times it would
present just like a cold just to pay for cold or flu and outside
Seattle, a man in his 30s At least 63 people are now being
tested for the respiratory illness in 22 states including
three possible cases in New York. Symptoms include fever,
dry cough and shortness of breath. Tonight hospitals on
high alert Dr. Jennifer Ashton visited New York City's Health
and Hospitals Bellevue
so this is a negative pressure Room here at the hospital where
a patient with Coronavirus would be cared for by specially
medical personnel. They showed her precautions they would need
to take how prepared
are you and your staff to receive a patient who may have
Coronavirus. We're prepared to take that patient now our radar
is always set high so we can screen these patients so we can
stop it from infecting other people in the public.
Tonight at the epicenter of the Coronavirus outbreak. The crisis
is escalating dozens of workers in Wuhan with heavy machinery
racing against time to build a brand new 1000 bed hospital in
just 10 days, and now a second 1300 bed facility in the next
15. The space desperately needed hospitals teeming with patients
and staff stretched then. In China alone. There are now more
than 1400 cases and at least 42 deaths as more than 400 medics
who've worked on SARS and Ebola deploy to help with a rapidly
growing emergency. Wuhan and 16 other cities in a travel
lockdown. That's a total of 15 million people ordered to stay
in place. That's the population of the state of New York and
Texas combined. The US government's evacuating the
majority of consulate employees and families from Wuhan and is
reportedly working on a charter flight to get all remaining
The term Cabin Fever is probably coming into play here.
Here it's the Chinese Lunar New Year the country's biggest
holiday. New Year worshipers have gathered here to pray for
good luck in the year of the wrath. But people also be warned
about gathering in large places like this. And so most people
here are wearing these kind of protective masks. The list of
cases outside Mainland China also growing with more than 35
cases in 13 countries or territories, including France.
In Japan. The health ministry says three evacuees have tested
positive for the virus. A day after returning to Tokyo. 206
passengers were on their government chartered flight on
Wednesday all were sent to medical institutions to undergo
tests. The ministry says two of the infected patients had no
symptoms. It's the first time in Japan the virus has been
detected in patients with without symptoms. The prime
minister also says two of the evacuees didn't give their
consent for the health check.
The procedure was not legally binding. Unfortunately, they did
not agree to be tested. We could not force them as it was also a
human rights issue.
They said he's confident all evacuees on subsequent flights
will give their consent. Now a second plane carrying 210
Japanese nationals from the virus hit city touchdown at
Haneda Airport on Thursday morning. 13 passengers on that
flight are exhibiting symptoms and have been sent to a special
hospital for infectious diseases.
Good morning. Dr. Jango Chou has been recognized by the Governor
General's Innovation Awards.
This work can't be done without teamwork. She and the team
at the National microbiology lab have been praised for developing
any bola vaccine, but just over a week ago to her husband and
her students from China were evicted from Canada's only level
for lab. Their security access revoked. Staff at the lab was
told last Monday the couple is on leave and not to communicate
with them. We're getting those resources who work at the lab
but who don't want to be identified for Fears they'll be
punished. They say this is coming just months after it
specialists entered choose office after hours and replaced
your computer and her superiors stopped authorizing work trips
to China. Manitoba RCMP confirmed it was called in by
the Public Health Agency of Canada on May 24. A spokesperson
says the agency is investigating a policy breach calling it an
administrative matter and it's taking steps to resolve it
expeditiously. We can assure Canadians that there is no risk
to the public and that the work of the NML continues in support
of the health and safety of all Canadians.
I want to stress. The risk of infection for Americans remains
low. And with these and our previous actions, we are working
to keep the risk low. All agencies are working
aggressively to monitor this continually evolving situation.
And to keep the public informed and it constantly transparent
way. The United States appreciates China's efforts and
coordination with public health officials across the globe and
continues to encourage the highest levels of transparency.
It is likely that we will continue to see more cases in
the United States in the coming days and weeks, including some
limited person to person transmission. The American
public can be assured the full weight of the US government is
working to safeguard the health and safety of the American
You need not look far to see the economic consequences of this
virus airline after airline suspending flights to China.
This afternoon. One of air Canada's last direct flights
from Beijing landed in Vancouver. In China, entire
swaths of the country have been shut down. Starbucks has closed
more than half its outlets Toyota announced it will close
its plants. And Google says it will temporarily close all of
its Chinese offices. Remember though back in 2003, China was
basically the world's factory today China's much more
intertwined in the buying and selling of the global economy.
The fact that the
Chinese authorities have clamped down and they put many cities in
lockdown already. That means those consumers aren't out there
purchasing and that will really dampen Chinese growth.
And that dampening will be felt in places you may not expect.
Cameron seafood sells about half its lobsters to China. And
Chinese New Year is one of the busiest times of year they were
set to ship about 20,000 pounds this week.
Those are all canceled. So actually the sales to China
completely disappeared from Monday.
There are other markets for those lobsters but there's no
way to make up the loss of the Chinese market and no way of
knowing how or when the world's second biggest economy will
reopen for business.
A new case of the deadly Coronavirus has been confirmed
in the US the latest case in Massachusetts. It's the eighth
in the US and the first on the East Coast. Health officials
have declared a public health emergency. nearly 14,000 people
worldwide have been infected and more than 300 have died. And
nearly 60 million people in China are under travel
restrictions. Ramy no Sensio leading us off from Beijing.
The CDC says the new case of Coronavirus is a Boston resident
in his 20s who recently traveled to the center of the outbreak
Wuhan China, he's been placed in isolation. Also today tech giant
Apple announced it would close all its stores and offices in
China until February 9, joining a growing list of companies
restricting operations here this all comes as the worst The World
Health Organization declared a global health emergency and the
US State Department raised its travel advisory for China to the
highest level, meaning do not travel to China. A new study out
by the British medical journal The Lancet estimates that more
than 75,000 people have been infected by the virus as of last
week. If that turns out to be true, it will confirm what many
already fear that Beijing is massively under reporting these
numbers. The CDC reported that even if patients initial tests
for Coronavirus are negative, they could still develop the
illness because the test only works when patients have
symptoms. A study also showed the virus can be transmitted by
patients with no symptoms. A woman who travelled from
Shanghai to Germany infected seven other people while she
remained asymptomatic. Those findings contributed to the
decision to place 195 Americans housed at a California airbase
in the first federal quarantine in 50 years, they will spend 14
that's way to control a virus like this is to keep people away
from everyone else. While you run out the clock on that
I routinely monitor outbreaks of disease around the world, both
for humans and animals to see if there might be a biological
warfare agent at work. So I follow what was going on there
at Wuhan. And eventually reached the conclusion that what we are
dealing here is an offensive biological warfare agent that
leapt out of the Wuhan biosafety level for a laboratory there
that has been DNA genetically engineered with gain of function
properties that simply accelerates the DNA genetically
engineering for a bio warfare agent in the first place. And as
far as I can tell, right now, Steve, just having read the
public record, it does appear as if it's a combination of what's
called a camera that basically you have the SARS. And we know
that that facility has previously worked with SARS and
stars leaked out of there at least twice before combined with
the flu virus. And it appears also combined with HIV that, you
know, leads to AIDS. At a minimum. It's my opinion that
you know, it's extremely dangerous. The Chinese
government the first case was December 1, it had nothing at
all to do with the you know, the food central there that's just
baloney and propaganda. Clearly the Chinese government knew
about it probably right around December one, the first human to
human transmission transmission was December 15. So the Chinese
government has been lying about it since then. This is a
specially designated who research lab. Now imagine that
the who are specially designating a bio warfare lab.
So the by the who is in on this? These BSL four facilities are
only good for research, developing, testing and
stockpiling biological warfare weapons.